MMA Fighting - Trocação Franca | O drama de Deiveson Figueiredo (+ Rodolfo Vieira e Marcos Pezão)

Episode Date: April 27, 2023

Deiveson Figueiredo mudou os planos, mas nem tudo saiu como ele esperava. Se antes subiria de categoria, agora fica nos moscas, mas não poderá enfrentar Manel Kape no dia 8 de julho. O podcast Trocação Franca dessa semana recebe o “Deus da Guerra” para entender melhor essa história, e entrevista a dupla Rodolfo Vieira e Marcos Pezão antes de suas lutas nesse sábado, pelo UFC Vegas 72. O melhor do MMA brasileiro no Trocação Franca, toda semana, com o jornalista Guilherme Cruz e convidados. Deiveson Figueiredo's plans have changed — but not everything went as expected. Figueiredo was moving up to bantamweight, and then he was not, and now he can’t even fight Manel Kape on July 8. Trocação Franca welcomes Figueiredo to understand the situation, and also chats with Rodolfo Vieira and Marcos Rogerio de Lima ahead of Saturday’s UFC Vegas 72 card. Listen to Trocação Franca with Guilherme Cruz every week to hear from the biggest names on the hottest topics in the Brazilian combat sports world. Follow Guilherme Cruz @Guicruzzz Subscribe: http://goo.gl/dYpsgH Check out our full video catalog: http://goo.gl/u8VvLi Visit our playlists: http://goo.gl/eFhsvM Like MMAF on Facebook: http://goo.gl/uhdg7Z Follow on Twitter: http://goo.gl/nOATUI Read More: http://www.mmafighting.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Lombin of Lumpin, 15th episode of podcast Trocaceau Franca's A Suh His House, about the sphero. I'm Gailibbush, correspondent of the site American, M.M.A. Firing, in Brazil, and I'm back on this

5th fair, a little bit atrazado, more atrazado than the normal, but in the company of Davidson Figuero, ex-campion of the FC, who enfrented a drama on the side of the October. We're going to talk with him.

We're going to be there, my friend. Oh, my. Well, so, I'm a minute. So, I'll talk a little what's happening

now. I'm still I'm sorry. I said to my employee, I said to my company, I said to

he wanted to do that he's just when he gave a little to me, I went with a

physiotherapist who's going of me, I went to the ophthalmologist and really the vista not is a

lot of 100% there there days that I look to me I mean

I mean I mean I'm I'm but But there's another day, always the Vista is to be bad,

especially when I'm training, the Vista starts to go back to the last one that was lesionated in the last one of

the last year, I've decided that I've had to complete the six months that they did, that the

ophthalmologist gave six months to to, to, to, to, and,

the, the physiotheraper, also said the same thing for me. So, I passed this for my

company and I will obeyed the medical the six months, it will get the final of the

end of the beginning, so the idea is to try to try a year, because you are trying

just 100% how is this side? I'm trying I'm trying I'm trying no, total 100%

100% but I'm I'm trying to me maintaining diet, for the last few, the last

times I was I'm really good God, and now, now I'm trying the diet there's a so that I'm

able to any way, to get a future to me and I your idea. The idea, it, and then the FC, mark a luta, you can't be able to do you, in, in, in, in, in, in in in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, suspension

metric, so on the final of the only, you can't start a camp

so that's I'm going I'm not I'm not but the part of contact of sparring I'm

I'm not not I'm being sincere with you but I'm something there's a specific

a solitin very levy I've I've tried I'm trying to some some more

more more but sometimes it's always it's over the goal in the eye so that the

medical passed on me that's the not a lot to get this contact, you know? There's

there's many people who does camp and not does sparring. You think would be viable for

you to do this or not? For you have to have a sparrer in camp

and not to do a lot without doing a start before for me

not do, I don't do, I don't see a camp without a contact real

the things that I most I like who is train to boxing, you know, box, have much contact,

very atrito every moment. So, to do a camp for me, car, not exist, you know?

Imagine the despair, the frustration, like, to, put, there a lot with a

lot, you know, and then, no, you're to have to be to be to

you're to get to with this mountain Russia of emotions there? I,

I, I, I, me, I'm a little without the UFC

he's the first of the first I'm in a second I'm in I'm not

I'm not I'm not I'm not so I'm so I'm so I'm think that I'm not

I don't have prece I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm talking to

my company, I've done with them for they for they to talk to

me to get someone to the five between the five of the rank and let

the Almost all of the lot of a lot of France is a guy in a car in

I want to do a lot with him and I'm inferial the guy is in the lot of

the last that's the knockout show Mateo Nicolau is a great guy to look with me

so I hope the UFC put these guys to be ranked me I'm I'm sure I'm the

first of the conturion but I want a guy there between the cimpos to the front. With a chance,

well, a ex-campion that, po, he did great luts in the pro, he's a lot of,

you know, I think, like you, imagine that in a scenario more rational, so you can be able to

last, September, because if for the end of July, you're liberated to do sparring,

then you come out of a camp, it would be about of this right, exactly,

right, right, but I, but I you can I, I confess, I'm, I'm going to be

always doing something like that to not get a manned, I'm trying to box all of the jails, lot of the manopla,

training the jiu-jitsu, a grab that's not very much atrito in the part the eye the jihits I'll be

moving-mortem always, you'll be moving-a- category, who you know would say the best of the names that you

said, well, even a guy that has been not is a man, because you

do you not will not do you don't have not even yeah, it's time,

do you know, do you do the yeah, I'm a guy who I'm going to go to

go to play with a car France man, I want to make a lot

against him and I hope that he accept, and even the guy who

caught Matured Matheon Nicolau the last last now

of him I see I I mean I'm going with these two guys.

Some are great names are you are quite with me. Uh huh and so two names

of the Peso Mosca yeah, after the after the last time you talked about about the

talk about about the possibility to go to maybe it's maybe know to continue to

no moscca but was inclined to do the GALO about the Dominic Cruz, that I don't

think you would like to think you decide in the end of this division? Yeah

well I'm like in my my 6-1, I'm can't in 5, 7, but conversing

with coaches, conversing with my company in Grafayb, the guy who, there's a ralda-fom of the FC, there's a

story long of the much, he, you know, me, me, did a question,

of my, so, I'm going to say, no, for a guy of this, man,

man, a guy is experienced too, so he said, he said, to me continue,

and, I'll I resolved to do make more four battles in a category, three,

for a bit of how it's the question of the piece, that's just that's not, you know, you're going to because you

don't have been not, you're not, but today, you're not, but today, you're doing with a

kind of with a lot, so, I'm with a lot of my time, but I've never seen with

a week, he wants to be able to get a camp and paying a count, to let's how

to cut to for 5'7? Comeessing with 67 man starting with 67 it's very easy to

me back to the time of the month of the lot of 60 kilos this is the focus of

maintain 67 with a godura magra me just for not have problems there to

batte the so the nutritionist always always classific the the

amount that is what we're that we have to get the there has a

little bit but but I'm but I'm but I'm the same 60 1 1

I'm I'm my last my last I'm a lot of I'm

I batting the person I'm I'm never batting in my life I batte

I bet you I'm so I I confil in the work of my nutritionist, you know? The guy is nutritionist of Patrice, Patrick, Pitibur,

the his brother Pitibur. And these guys have a story in the Belton. And now I'm working with a nutritionist of his team. You obviously,

want to be the sport to be the better, to be the champion, and there's a moreno there, he will fight the Pantorja now. You, in a certain

way, I tors to Pantos to win. Because then it's a, it's a way to you to put to

the centauron the champion, if you've been able to try to try to imagine that

the UFC casas this lot of maybe demone a more more. And the

what I observe I'm the UFC he's he's he's in baral

the category I'm I've seen some guys there there that's

like like eight or the guys are are

are lot with the five the five, the the

six, the So, like you were you with a Cap, right? Yeah, exactly. I've seen that the UFC is embarrassing.

So, I'm, I'm going to show the job to be in the same, you know? You know,

you think the Pantosja wins? Or you think that the end of Morae? Now,

you've already, you know, but you think he is a bottom over?

I'm, I, I, I'm, I'm, I'm, my car is a

person, I'm a for him, you know? I want much that he venza. The Moreno

has a girl who evolved very, he's evolved too, and Potogia has to train much,

I confiel in Pontoja, I know that's a guy who train a much, and,

that he bring the centuron to Brazil, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm,

I'm, I'm, I want to he wants, I, I want to make bonito too in

my little bit or other chance to to do that the plan on the he's, he's,

he's a two to be a lot of the one of the one of the one of them was in 2016 was in 2016

was down the Tuf so I mean didn't even the cartel official and the

one to one to 10 for me Pantogia yeah and the last the other

was in 2018 yeah there's five years there there's five years

you're quite you think many what you think that pays these

two results earlier there It's Yeah, it's But, But it's

Yeah, We're gonna'luta, right, man Yeah, We're just There's many There's many There's examples, Yeah,

Poh, Nobody thought No Descanor And it And it's a Yeah, For this, Yeah,

But, I'm, I'm a lot I was I'm really Well, I'm a But I'm

But I'm I'm I'm gonna So, So, man, I'm What I'm

I'm I'm gonna I'm gonna Yeah, And, enter with a strategy a good

because this guy who had a evolution very, you've evolved a very,

and the Pantoja has to train and have to have a good strategy to gain this man.

Mario cabarada, thank you your attention there's a good source in recuperation

that all the do so that's the end of the end of to start to start in

the next what I'm what I'm most care is to be a votative, to care to get a

very healthy and out of for the lesones for that I can't be able to the podcast continue with

two people in session Fight Week, the dupe Vierre and Markus Peasong that's Saturday

on the UFC Vega 72 the interview the interview start after after the

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the day 29, the octagon, the counter, Burundas, I don't see if so it's so so that's so the same to say

in the hand with him with him, car, a lot of the year's to be to have been to your last time,

you're going to get to the anxiety to enter on octagon to do know? Ah,

car, I'm very very happy to be here after after a long time, de know,

I've been quite a one year without, The last time I had been 11 months if I'm

remember, and this time I'm going to the last month I'm in June was in June against the Chris Kurtz

and then it was to be done me to make to me macho and it's all prepared for I

to do you to put up a great camp and then happened to me macho so I've

to say the lute and he he came to learn and he he came me recuperate

and I went to and I And I'm happy-a-to-ta with a lot marked and seeing

that nervousism that adrenaline of the new what was the lesion what was the he forced the way to

the fight the fight the was the was the a costella a kid I went to

get a guillotina but he was training levy it was it was really

but we're not to not that never never because I was just

I was I've been training for much time and then was trying

to do you, make the ultimate training and it was good for the but it's a guy who has

a story in the jujitsu every camp you do you do you do it's a experience new,

something that you go to do because Jiu Jiu Jiu Jitsu you could do you do do you dox in a week of a time of a

but M.A. is a thing different you're doing doing all the preparation for one a one

one adversary so yeah different it's different and Jiu Jiu Jiu Jit's I was more accustomed. My body was more accustomed.

I was very more new. I was a new way. Now we have to try the time to train

intense, train hard when we have to train and to be able to get to get to get to

this is the part of difficult. And the and the fight specifically against the Kori,

what you know, you know, you know, you know, you prepared two times for him and he made

two camps for the he made he came he ended he when you when you

He's from the last last last time. What you learned in these months all in these months, all over the

school of his car, the man, my trainer of strike, he did a study

legal, with various videos, of various cuts, various moments of, of,

of, things that he does, so, so, we're, well, with,

with the, with the , with the the goalp more force of him, he has a jab force,

he has a direct, he jogging too, he doesn't, he gets, he gets, he gets,

he gets he gets, he's a kind of impisible, so, you know, I don't

think he very good in nothing, but it's a guy, a man, a man, a man,

who, like, all of my adversaries, I respect, and I prepare

too, for him, really, I trained for car and I'm I'm leaving this lot

really a serious and I'm sure I'm ready to be able to get the piece of to get to

make more finalization if I'm he's a question he but he the part of the jujitsu

for much he has he has some real knockouts in the game of the game of

he's over obviously in the grap in in jujits pure you you're you're leguas

a front with all the whole story in jiuits but M.A. a What you have What do you have

found? The game of the game of the show of his he's both of defense as a

attack in the other than the other in the part of Jiu-Git also we did

a lot and my my trainer Salen Coltin he he assisted

a lot we've we actually I think there's a lot of him if I know me

that he that the that the that the that he did he and we

And we We've seen many breaches too, he has he vera much of costas

He takes the Luta I don't I'm not I'm I'm not he accepted the

last time he did he went to try to drop the guy he got

the he picked the he took his cost and he he accepted

he he accepted he he said so he would be very good to me

that is what I I'm I think he I think he He must be prepared to be able to

get up to get up to be able to get the cost, you know, we're doing, we,

we, we, we, this situation of, of a , and a

back, when the guy will get to a ressling, it's, it's, it's a

very, generally, wrestling is a, explosive, but, but, I said,

we, we, we're, we're, we're, well, prepared to this

this I don't know what he he will do he's not for what he he's prepared I don't

see a interview he not even I'm interested but I'm a strategy is to put the rodov

to be back that I will try to try to do you because it's a lot of but it's

in that nobody the better that's not the other country going to put you

to put you to be back you to be Jujits counter Jiu-Gitz so that Yeah, you

You think you You're trying to You're doing taking this So, you're taking This is a serious, so a serious that we

We've worked very defense of a quetta, too, defense counter-attack of a Yeah,

we're guard also, case goes back, we're back, we're defesa of cost,

and he plays more costs, we're we really is living this this luta

this lot a really, and a we have we we've been in the defense yeah

a lot of time I'm at at the end I was at no initial I'd even I'd even really I'm

talking about with Salenco I'd like you know I'm like I'm done ten entrances to cause I'm

not so I don't do much yeah car training specific of defense of quay a guy

entering in my person in my part of because as you said the majority

there not not will not not majority, like, oh, no, the guy never will try me put up to

back up to-bye. In this lute, he tent, he does a job, agarred, with me, then you have to be done so, so, for this we, we've trained this way, too, we, we've clued the training of defense

also, to, for not have a surprise. With a certain, how is it, how is your head, in motivation, of the power, of, the cause, in the last, had adiated the

lot, prolongs this time of the time of the return to but how

you live with this in the M.A that's a career even new, yeah, for much

you're in a new not in a career new compared to what you have done a job

a bit of you know, you want, you want, for, you want, but, I'm,

I'm just I've got for this before, I've had my first, and then

I was I was to get and then I did again, and I did what I did the last

I did the last time I did, I'm I'm doing many things that I was doing

I'm doing things much better than I was doing, I just I just I was

the moment certain, I knew that the would get to with him or with

other, so I was doing my work, I'm training all the day,

me I'm eating well, and I'm so anxious, I'm anxious, I'm anxious, and I'm really, I'm really

to get this victory, yeah, and how are you win this is Soutan on the Saturday? I believe that finalizing, I think finalizing

or in the first or in the second round. Imagine that's a lot of a lot of a soundad, just almost two years

there's the last year, the last year, that's the last years that I got in the last year

it was it was one when I'm I just parr to think, look, look, it, pass

a rapid, so, but this time was good, it was a time of much about,

of many things difficult that I passed, that I made, me,

I'm, I'm made, more more confiant, very much more more

more, and, and, and, and, the result, we don't have to know,

I'm, I just want to get the better and say with the victory. And I imagine

that the advantage is to make more this year, yeah, no, no past just rolled

one, I imagine that the decision is this year, but I'm in placate some

some time. Yes, but it's a thing, but it's a thing I'm doing, and then

we're just all over the nothing and nothing and then I'm trying I'd have made

three luts and then there did that the beginning of the year, and then

I did, and the last, I had, I was, I had been a lot marked, and it happened to me to be a so,

I prefer never think more nothing, or not, even, say, about, oh,

I'm going to do this, two, three, four, five, I'm, I'm, I'm,

I'm, I'm, going to get this and then then I go, I've been,

to be, just, I've been training just a lot of time, and,

and then after this, I see when when I will to do you other side of

line we have we're going to the October the first of the October of the Bhopalado for a great victory

about a great idea about the Aldo Cortez Acosta that invicto in M.A. My friend

the podcast again, how is this expectative for the next time this return to

the octogro? A man, a brother to all the people are that are the expectations

are the expectations are the best of us been training very very here

in America Top Team there's a guy a lot good there's

a lot so the training are great great there Marcelon

Gome was training with we got to I'm

saying Renan Problema also who got to be with

we also Marks Boucher also back in this Rett

final to to adjust the part of the part of the right

very good there Jars Ros Instruke, Sergei Pavlovich, there's a guy very good here. So, the trainers

very d'Urude, so I'm very very happy, uh, Augusta Takai always me helping also, so, po, we're embaled with all, to do, to get a victory,

there, Lerman. Oh, you're with a game stellar, you know, you have a bochechecheche that's the most of the jiu-jits, there's a guy,

the guy, the guy, a guy, very good, you're, you're, he, , he's, the Sergayy

Pavlovich, when the guys are there is a lot of the country is there in the heavy of

people are in to get more afiated to this luthra. Graces to do you the trainers

also that in America Toppin we have a an infinity

of a athlete and you see this in all the categories you see in the

category in the category in the category people people involved the people of

the category 77 Pays the Medio, Flyweight, Battleweight, all the categories, there are a group very good of athletes. So, it's a great to, you know,

when I'm, you know, when I'm, it's, you're pushing, encabeasance, sparrumpinia, there's a guy good,

Gabriel, the people of the Olivera Brothers, the people of box, poor, the people of Nogush, the Catel. So,

car, always, great, great, great, excellent, training, The training of wrestling here

that is very good, very strong, of Steve Moko. So, you see, I was a partner of training of all these guys,

of Steve Moko, I helped him in camp, of King Molaou, and, like, today, there's guys, like, me,

playing the corner, this, po, is very good, very important, yeah? With the I'm sure. As a lot of

you're going to of a victory about a Arlobsk what's the question of the other

he's a invicto at 9-0 0, the guy is coming of the good victories

of the future of you ever to see to see someone to get a top

15 to do that's that's done the name of Arloves that

the story that he has been in the story that yeah yeah yeah

there was that in top 15 there I'm enrosk in two cars

that I've I've got the Blago and the Romanoe and the the lot to be made

I'm in the Chris Dalcos I think now he was number 11 of the

category but he is back to the category to for

to 93 so the the lot of who were who

had offered ZEComé but ZECOme but Zekomé is a train

in American Top Team also So, impossible to happen this fight in this moment, you know? So the

lot that had was Valdon, I, I, I've a conversation, with the people of the first Hald,

who is who who is who said, and they've said, my, this is a look,

for who is the , like, for who will enter in top 15, you, for, for,

that we have got, they've, there, so, so, one, the,

one, who will entry of this this lot. So I'm sure that my,

doing my work, working on my work, he's a guy duval, but I have qualities

good to wince him. I'm going to be top 15 of the category and going

to be up the the big of the first last a lot of you passed

the car against against allof everybody everybody could be

put it a lot to put to put to the bottom to be to be

and you just it How is you see getting this now? You think it might

have a victory a victory like that in less two minutes or you think

a tendency to be a more more. I'm this category I'm a piece

pesed I'm every day me me encounter more in a

category so I I'm I'm more more more rapid and more

velox I'm so every I've most I've I don't have much plan,

strategy, for the fight, I think I am a guy complete, I'm a good

bads, I have a good striking, I have a good Jiujitsu, I had some some

some of the time, I'm going to make you every day, P, Marcus Boucher for me

helping in the time, I'm also in the part in the part in the part of

the end we're trying every day is better, so I don't have a strategy

for this I know that I'm I'm ready and I'm I'm going to the game I'm a different from

many people that's going a plan a strategy I'm a my strategy is being the more

more violent possible in all the aspects if I have the opportunity to like

finalize in the round in knockoutia in the first will be or in

the last round you can see in my lute with the

last second of the we were I'm trying a porrada there, and the other

is that the anon's in really a little bit really, so it's I'm very very well

physically, I'm going to go to get to get a energy there, there's things that

we can't control, that is what our our our own I'm not, I don't

me I'm not with what he will do do you will be support, I'm just

I'm just I'm just to do my my little if he vacill, it's in the time that

he's or not go to the points, but it's a great lot. He's invicto in M.A. He has only one in Amador, he's 9-0, since he's he turned a professional of M.A. Assisting the duties, you can see breaches,

despite he had beencited all the luts? You can see many ways there that you can't explore? I see a lot. He is a boxer of nature, I see a lot of space in Grapin, there. I see much space

in the part in the part in-pair even. He is a guy who movement and goes to to go to

do a little, to get a little. So this game is a good for me, I'm a

guy explosive, I know, I go, to shoot a bad, the end of the end, which is

a lot of he's a lot of he, he doesn't he doesn't he doesn't, he receives

he receives a so, he receives so, I'm explore the wrestling, and my box is

my box is fiated every day more. if he vacillar, the man will enter and and he will

go to the and you said in the question in the crisis the cause like the person who

would be able to make you think you think you think you turn to what you think you

would you think you would be the idea the you know it's a category of

that's difficult but it's but few victories can you put you in a conversation

by the centurals if you can see the people set,

you have in mind to someone that you think that you think it can't

be the future the next for the future? I'm very focused in this

lot. I'm have to bring this victory this is the conclusion

of the goals, the most the objectives, I'm I'm

looking with with unies in dents but I'm seeing

I'm seeing a category, and I have certain that I'm a

a lot that everyone will want to see that will be a good for

F.C. will be good for F.C. will be a look for Derek Lewis, you know, that's a

kind of he's coming. I'm, this time, I'm seeing a renavation of the peso pesed,

get him more two, three, that is that this level more an extra,

you know, that I think are that are good, those are, that are people,

project a people to project a person to And I think of style of of the lute also, I think it would be a lot that,

my, the lot that everyone expected, that was the dark news who who'd go to when it's when it's all

this is, me, the guys are going to explode the octogono. And it was that was a

little bit a lot of the dark news, the octagon will explode to be really. The matter,

and the division, it's, after a repetition like a, myotist with a champion,

he infighting Kormier, direct, time all, now, it's a new moment, you know,

with John Jones, as a champion, how is he see the first of the time, he's

what he did he did not, he was to be the current, he's not, in the

word of Miotit, paro, in the man of the man of the guys didn't

have much activity, even Miotit being the major the category, he, became

a little came here, he, he came here, he, he got to the Inanu the

, very chaste all this process. But Joe Johnny came to implement a

parada. Not never ever never never ever for me is a guy

that's an excellent in wrestling a excellent strike even knowing

he was maybe he was kind of without a little

little little without a time and he's a

very really very very very good good. So,

but I knew he explore what the Inganu also, that's the part of wrestling there, I

see, this category, not, it's the guys encurted the way of his people, encurted,

and it happened what happened, because it's a guy who don't have a wrestling, I think,

even more this category is a pesed pesed, if the guy not there's a

wrestling there, to be to defend well, to attack also he not will

get very long, you know, so, it's going to go to get a long but he's

going to be to be in front with the guys of the front there's the I'm going to I'm going

I was talking with Jarzino with a we're talking in a person, the poor he said

yeah, we need to train much wrestling because my, he's, oh,

Joe Jones there's no can't say the guy, no, there, no,

there has a wrestling impressionant even being the guy of the category of the back I always

I always think the males are the those people are the heavy over the most it's the

most of the most people the majority that were sure they're very very Kurtz blades there

so there there's a ton asp no, there's a have a good rest,

there's a good jit's so if we if we're not even if we're more

there more there more there much force physical, we'll we'll end up going to get back,

so Joe Jones not me surprised, I'd think he'd do you know, he'd be a time that

he'd be a secret to nobody, and when the deficiency of serial gain in this part to the

part of I was that I imagineable I mean, I didn't imagine it so so rapid so,

but I imagine it that's this disfeiture and then the sole co-o-e- -re-z-

-e- -tack- front, that he will affect the malladino, which is a guy that, as you

said, as you know, he's a guy who's a guy that back in three, but he's preferring to

go in a moment in the heavy, he's going, it's all the man that he infrented

and he presents this different for Jaisin because he's a guy's he's a

he's gonna put a back down. Even more more, he's been the guy's the guy's

the guy that's the guy's the guy the team have been this piece is important in the preparation of Jais'n'u,

to make him ready for this desire's-y-than-a-you- Yeah, with certain. The Jarzino, if you pick, like, the ultimate, I think the error that he had with Vol-Cov was to put him to back, you know, so, for that he

ended up that way. But if you pick the Lutte's of him with Kurtz-Blades, the Curt's had been training much Ress, much Jiu-Git-Soo, have enjoyed, like, this vina to bochecha for the team,

so it's a guy that always training very he's he's not a really,

but he does much this part of the wrestling, the trainers also,

he has a a a a perigue for him for many to the

category because the people don't have not, I don't see Jarzino the

maladino with a balladino with a good wrestling so he He has a, like, a take-down

good, a double-leg, but he has a control of the costas very good. So, the guy is not

accustomed to this game, you know, so it's a lot lot of difficult for Jairzino. Ficoed

there, because it's a company of a team and other Brazilian, you know? So I

just I'm just to be a lot-and but, but it's that the Jarsin has been evolving,

and a we see also a Maradino has a deficiency very great in the way, so it's the efficiency of Jarzino

we can't see various times he's he's coming amass in a lot of the first of him in the FC

with Baby the baby was amassing he, he was in the couch baby

that that way, with the the list over, you know, so it's a guy

really very dangerous so the the lot of I'm there are two guys

that I don't have wanted to a partner of train, other Brazilian, there's a many people

there, but it's been a great a great there, confronts and so for we'll just for

we'll just for the Boucher that's invicto in M.A. Poh, one of the various names of the

history of Jiu-Gitso and he's, he made two new last, we were going

when there is the next year of him but you think the question of time

to be to be being to the M.A. As how he was With

With a Bichich is a championship, you know, there's Jiu-Gitz of excellence, the part in-pe is better

more, the wrestling of his own, he's been every day better, so we've been trained

much, the Bichichchch is a guy very abel, a guy that has a different there,

veloes, explosive, and pesado to a caram so it, so it's that's a very,

The champion he's He's He's He's He's He's He's

He's He's He's He's a question to be used to He's He's He's

He's He's The Rahn-N-Fcee I'm The Rhebola No No No

No No Rangel was the champion And the Malikin is a thing

That's He's He's They're He's They're He's He's

He's No No I'm No No won't He's been marked. They've already marked, the luthering is 15 or 16th of July?

Ah, to make the unification. I understand. But I don't see the Aginbular, he's a long time without to fight, but I see Boucher, as much time without fight. But I see Boucher, as much the Rubellar, as much as he has a game to be any one of the two. Boucher is a, a jiu-suitz totally different. It's a guy that's a guy that's a day better, the part of strike. part of wrestling, there's even to say,

then they're going to be a category, and will be able quite a team to be to be to be to be to be able to

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