MMA Fighting - Trocação Franca | O futuro de Alex Poatan depois do UFC 287 (c/ Caio Borralho, Patrício Pitbull e +)

Episode Date: April 12, 2023

Alex Poatan perdeu o cinturão do UFC para Israel Adesanya em Miami e muitas questões ainda pairam no ar com relação ao seu próximo passo no MMA, e o Trocação Franca debate a luta e o futuro com o peso-médio Caio Borralho. O podcast entrevista, ainda, o campeão Patrício Pitbull, que busca fazer história no Bellator, e a peso-palha Bruna Brasil, estreante da semana no UFC Kansas City. O melhor do MMA brasileiro no Trocação Franca, toda semana, com o jornalista Guilherme Cruz e convidados. Alex Pereira lost the UFC middleweight title to Israel Adesanya in Miami and many questions have yet to be answered regarding the next step of his career. Today, Trocação Franca breaks down the top UFC 287 clashes and a lot more with rising 185-pounder Caio Borralho. The podcast also features interviews with Bellator champion Patricio Pitbull and UFC Kansas City newcomer Bruna Brasil. Listen to Trocação Franca with Guilherme Cruz every week to hear from the biggest names on the hottest topics in the Brazilian combat sports world. Follow Guilherme Cruz @Guicruzzz Subscribe: http://goo.gl/dYpsgH Check out our full video catalog: http://goo.gl/u8VvLi Visit our playlists: http://goo.gl/eFhsvM Like MMAF on Facebook: http://goo.gl/uhdg7Z Follow on Twitter: http://goo.gl/nOATUI Read More: http://www.mmafighting.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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and representing the M.M.A. Fighting in Brazil, Guillermo! Hello, Lomino, a friend of Luton, the 8thousand, the podcast, Trocason, Franca, A Suha,

a new episode. I'm a lot of smearer. I'm going to Dr.C., correspondent of the site American, M.A. Fairea. in the Brazil,

and I'm back on this quarter on the company of Patrice Pitbull, champion of the penas of belator

who tries to make a single champion in three divisions different in MMA in the future of the title of Mooshas

and Sereg and DeGos that's repreya on F.C. Saturday against Denise and Gomes, after the

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repucutina to Relye to Alexe Zahinah and the FECD 2-8-7, and Miami. And for this I I cooquoed,

Kyle Borrallio, the Brazilian, the middle of the FC, obviously one of the guys more interested in know who

can't be the ring of the category. All right, my friend, welcome on podcast. Paul, I'm

too, I'm very, training well, in the finalments out of the camp and for the

lot, not, there's a time, so I'm so I'm so excited, I'm excited

to get to get back to get to get the time. Manier and

before about your a lot that's coming, more a lot important

in the UFC. I want to start with you about what you know,

what you know, the thing is the signoron to the end of the first round

there, poe equilibrium, second round, the second round, the Adesani seems to

see to the lot of the puttah seemed to the shere of the same,

came, that came that came to knockout Chouk was almost the

most the both the Poatan in the first round

of the first round of the time, it has been the time to play the second of the second of the goal and the

no-caught-o. What was your reaction to see the way that she had to the way that it was

the point, the Pottan, finally, then I'm getting to the fourth encounter in the second, I

think it's got to all the people, not all the point-and but all- all-must

I thought the point, I'd the first round for Ad-San for he's connected with a

chutes in the line of the center, some jebs direct, he controlled maybe a more of the

octagon, but he was surprised he really he had seen the really he had seen the shooting in the

person, that really Potan, have these chutes very elastic and very very strong,

I thought he had seen but I'm going to say he engando not so the Potam but I'm

got all I'm sure I'm I'm surprised with the manner that was the knockout

and not I was waiting to get a knockout. I thought that he would gain more in the points or so, if it was

to gain by knockout would be in the rounds final, but it was, it was, it was, was very loco for the deal

in that he did this week. The Poitin recently a video talking about about various points of the lot,

and talking about this lance of the ADCEN has been to the ADCEN said that was maybe attracting him to

get him to get him in this silada and that Poitan thinks that he's not,

I think, I think that, he's actually he's actually there, he might be having to

have seen something like, but he's more than the way, but he's able to make more,

to attack, and he would have going to get a counter-gote. I don't think he

didn't, I think he was very conscious of all the he was doing, generally when

the guy sent that he will blockia the hands, he's looking more

back back there, a, a, a, look at the burraco, you see that the guy's being kind of seems being assuptated

and if you look at a camera lenta, analyze the fecese of Adesania, he really called the Pottan there, he might have seen the do, in the shoot, normal, but he called, I was very conscientious

of all, he expected the time and connected the hand, he gave a man that came before the famous crossado of Pottan, so he,

was like a a move that a man that would get as first. As a man who he's aubed much, he played in the whole,

he went to and he was in his own, so I don't think with Adesan had seen the point of to see in

his encoled, I think he got to this result, he shows what? He shows that the fact, the Aresana

is better than the Poetan in MMA, or it's all too open, that's all a trilogy

to you sacramentar who can be the world in a mhmia? I think a trilogy would

be good for sacramentar who is better, so I think if we're going to get conform the experiences of the

I think the Dessania, in be very clear, I think in the MMA he has, a lot of not be a guy that doesn't

get a lot, not does not dogetts, but we've seen in the last lute, how he managed

some, that he's a third round, a part of the fourth with Pottan on the

Chown. The Pottan is new in the sport, there, there, have nine luts

while the Adesania has 25 luts in the trajectory of Adesani the same

the same passed for all the stilos the lot of the basically

took so striker and guys that were grapples and wrestlers

like of nascent let's so I think if for

to say if you want to say I'm I think is a

pass a front but if if were talking

of kick boxing I think It's a big a big of I think the POTAN

I think if if POTAN is a big box, if Pottan, if the W.C. decided to remark this lute make a third

duel between them. The Potton, he was the Azzarone in a first last time, he was a

second, despite to have the first of the otheron to know, how you would be this duel

happening? You think that really the A.D.S. For have been seen one, he would

Entrary with more moral? Or you think I think that all the story still pays in the head for having per per

per year, it's a effect. I think would be like the other Lutas with a

different favorite favoritism but I think it very difficult to happen this

third encounter again because I don't think the Potan

bat more the weight of the I think he even is more more

more to be the part of the cut of a a cut very severe. And we've seen that,

I think it was the first soco that he took in the lot, despite to have a single soco, and I think the capacity of his the capacity of

the same, after having been not a little day, never will be the same, the pot, if you'll

be observed, have a style in the training, that he's been more more pesed, he's,

he's, he's, he's, he's more, he tomas he takes a socos to to encagear

those them. And this when you have 20 kilos a less, or at least

disidrator a great part of your weight, the same the brain has

the same so I would be a little advantage especially for this point.

The cut of the potan is a very very I'm a

time, I've had been in the other interviews that I don't that the

potan will be to be to 9-3 and I will you say,

car, no 3, he can do make a story there, because he

he, he, he, and in a category that don't have many

many many grapplers, there's there, I think that there is a

category perfect to pot. And I don't think he will have to make

a way long, no, I think, it's to win the

result of the centural, because the tendency, the logic, says that the Jamal

Rew will try, if he if you're apt to to do the not during

much time, because he was the leson that's he was going to get a end of the

Belharovitz or something to be able to get this opportunity for the central, yeah I think that

I think some of two to affirm the name of the name of the

category yeah we have also that's a kind of good in this

category there there's John New Alco that's being very

there Ian Blakowich who who has story in category,

for the two that can be able to try to know, he'll try to Chaske, the Jammal Rio. I think two

two two luts, he would do to be to be to the centuron. And I think the other would

be more difficult for him, would be when the Kalaev, which is a guy there Daghestan,

that has a grppler there more of a high-nive, so I think this would be

a lot of Kanyot also, that we saw the the difficulty the Pottan

to when the when the Dessani moved to canyot. So I think the Ankalaev would be one of the

last lusufs are one of the lot of the lot of J. Yir and Pratataka, and than the proper Jemal Rio. I think the Pothan gained the two with a leavenly with facilitation. Yeah, if Pouetan

not was a ex-campion of FC, if he not had this relation with Glover, who just was a champion, it's very easy for the F.C. V.C. vendor, a lot of Pothan against Jemal. The narrative

is a construct, no, the guy who subil to vingar the the master and all the other I'd even I'd actually think two

victories but it's it's not it's a marketer in two luts that were many more

more than 10 million of the bletteria in the two luts with a Desani in New York in Miami

is a guy that is a great in the MMA even having a career short

so so I think this all the not just not the merit the merit

It's very above of any other other thing. Exactly. It's a fratio

for the FCC yeah, the UFC yeah, like you know, he's about it, like he

said he's about it could be that it's a yeah, it's a can't be the

there, there's there, the narrative he's, so I think he should he should

do a little lot of he's credenceary there there, and he

would be that he took a talus and but as it's a narrative I think

a lot of and I'm going to I'm going to I'm going to no point in a pal man, the guy

don't do the style of his style there is I think really great for 93 is a big

major than I'm sure I'm I'm going to I'm he came to he came to he

he said it's great and really I'm really I'm like the same the same time

of him and I'm not so I'm not fix 95 96 kilos and really

I don't I think the Jamal have a chance with Potan chances great not I think

would be a favorite and I would postar in this lot of this lot of I think you

you depend of what will be this this first before before he put a

point the Blahovitz beleez I I think the Pootan has chances more

to wincee and then Furtrax or the Rews can are you will be you're

straight in category, if you gain this football sitoron, but your adversary is Ancalaev. There's a lot that tends to complicate a little more by the style of

game, right? Exactly. Then it's just a lot that I would not apostere on Portan. I think it

would be a lot of very complicated for him. The Akalaev, along to be canhout, Grappler,

he has a procaation too good too, I trained with him in extreme Kutour.

And he is very intelligent, he knows he's a guy that not not he doesn't

make emotion so I'm not going to he would be a risk much with Potan

and I'm would have the game to get a thing to and he should be to speak

the crown because I think the Alive just is the time to be the

officer is jude too with him I think that he got

a problem a problem the situation though yeah it was it

was it was it was not didn't have of the other country. It's those

things of the jury, but we have to wait for the point of the fact will be sub-to- but I imagine that the tendency is this is as

you're a man, he's a man, soffes much, he's not, if the UFC will be, he'll say,

no, you're going to do you're going to get, but he'll have to get in this piece to to find other

people, it's a better to be in a role of that you're with the chances more clear to dispute

the central and not a little bit more than a he's a guy that today, he can't be able to do something to make a little more chance to a centauron, and tending Poetam, out of the scenario for a dispute of this centuron, in the

Pesstantoral, who, other than you, think he merits to the tarsetral? To say, I'm saying, I still I don't know, I'm not. But I'm doing my way, I'm doing my claim. I think, I'm carer more three victories there, I that I'll be

no mercement certain there, yeah, yeah, the Adesania has gained the top

five, total of top five, yeah, so it's going to do the lot of

the Borrachin there, I think the Borrachina winning there, especially winning of

the Chimaev, even that came in a category of the but being a lot there

that they will be much, I think he's maybe a revanch, even because

the narrative will tell a a good for the FC, for a rematch, porrashina without having

had been how he will be, so I think he could be a meritse and the and the

realtor Duplicis. The Dricos Duplessi exactly, he said that he he can get more one

and that he could be to go to the centuron the drink duplice is in

sixth there in the ranking so I think it is a guy that can

that can can go to can sub to to dispute this you don't

if you do not a good victory against one of the top five, you know,

I'm sure to think he kind of a good, I'm not not so I'm not too not much

to say, but I'm trying to do you know, I'm trying to get to he can't

in a round he's just but he has done the job he, he's got the job,

got the bonus so it's a guy that can not not but he's

the guy who did the decision did the decision said he Exactly, exactly. He was able to attention

of Adesang, he was very intelligent in the last interview there that he did saying that he was the only African really, you know, and the only who was that only who lived in Africa

there and everything, I think he was intelligent to mount this discourse and we saw that he got the fruits, now the Adesania said it's a lot and I think it's a lot

and I think the idea that the problem Adesani just called because you know that the drink doesn't

go ahead with him so he so you're it's a money, it's been a question of

the division to say you know, if I'm if they're going to see in the UFC of Abu Dhab

there in October, or so we are we going to end of April the guy will be

going to because that the lot happens, and then the then he won't

to discuss the Zintan he will have to make the Mald and then

you look the RITon the is the it? the guy it's well,

it's a very it's very difficult to sell it's it's it's a

idea in this narrative that was created of the dual of the

Africanas and then is the Africanus and it is a real that

there's a lot in sportively that maybe not not

not not so not so not not be a

history is the the UFC and will not be

a pterville p. to rebuttar multidon and vendet for millions but it's but it's a

not a defense silturon while the godessani he's still the next adversary that's the

he's a botchina that's the that's the that's the ultimate yeah exactly I think the

I think the drichus duplice should be lot more there not never pass there by June

without just lute julio no maximum and then after until until until after

the october probably he should probably he should be disputing the centuron if he

to get more one there the top five. Apesight of that depends much of the

guy that he's going to get to be good, he's done with the last time,

the last one, he got the person, so he pick the Strickland, I think he not gain,

if he pick the Uteke, he don't get, it's a scenario difficult for

him, but it's a guy who have me surprised all these so it

so, so it can be that it surprise again. And not me

surprise if he would have a centuron because not, that's that there's

not there's no, there's not an way, go and borg if the Wadisana

want to this Lut this car because I want to call the car because I can't be

going to get a money, he will be a little and more now. Yeah, exactly exactly

the Adesani said he said that he wants that he me I mean, he said

he said it's difficult to make a big of a impugand, right? Yeah, he will

be able to do the first round will do do it do all the he has and then

it's a quality that he has this even can't the bich the buched to come

the time the entire the lot, transform her in a different and I

think it is so that he can be to show to the event

He was the Durin when the Roy Magdal in the other He was in the situation of this situation in the situation secure

he, po, he's beense, venceal in a paddical in in the career of Magidal

who's a imposent with a lot of the man, I'm a man of him

he, he's a guy very intelligent, he's with a discourse there, he's been

doing, you know, he's, you know, to be promote there, the

way of he's he's probably in English perfectly. It's in the

four luts, he won't have a lot for Chimaev that could have done

to any of one of two. So I think it's a guy that's on the

beer to be to be a suspect to say for being a

man of a man of a guy I'm I'm I'm particularly

the quite he he's put in situation to

make he not he was a guy that was he was a he was in

he was he was in he was he went to he was he was he was there's

only depending on the grappling of his and all and now now he got a

he's a got a man he a guy very tricky a guy a guy full of

a guy difficult to tulleey there so he he

got to in better to be in better than he better than he

more than So, a guy who has me impressioned a lot, and I think if it's if it were, if it's, it was, for, no maximum, more one,

for he disputed the signet, and that's a lot maybe with Camaro, a revanch, or maybe with the proper Shimaev, but how he's

going to be, so I think, no maximum, more a lot, he's getting, the way he's he's getting, he disputed the

thing, the stuntary. We're, we're just the definition, because I don't much of the fact in

I don't Edward's counter the Kobicovton, but the Lion Edwards says that he doesn't I don't think the guy meresa. Partically I also don't I don't think. The Cobbitton,

po, is a parted by far as Vidal, that's been well, the victory over his about it

before since then, it's not the category is atyativa, car, is the Duran working,

pressuring Vittorri, so, the, you know, if you're, you know, if you're,

you know, go, there is Belal Mohammed, there's a chafkat Ramonov who is, poor, man who's coming and filerating all the world, the category

is quite, you're going to talk with a story, oh, the Kobe-Cougt, you're good, he perished by Camaro two

years, but, you've been , right, Feret, right? Exactly. The best the, the best of the

Cobb is this, I'm, I've been two minutes for Camaro that you've been poor, but you said, but you're

right, I don't think that he mayors that he doesn't to put to the centuron,

now. I think, a lot perfect to do you know, maybe the Colby with a lot

there's a lot there's a there's a kind of the doorie maybe he would be maybe he's

credenceary there to do that there's there's there's been of various victories

there, it's just just of can't even batting on the part, but

not have a kind of for the people, the people don't actually so

the style of the maybe he still maybe he I think he maybe dispute the Cinturon,

if he's going to more one more or less because he's coming to various victories but he's a lot of so maybe the Dourin

with Colby we just we had put a porrida we had put a porrino he'd just could have the chintrown

with all the merit that he had been he dispute the now? I'd would be a D'O.

I'd rather than D'O. D'R.R.I. D'R.O. I'd say D'O. Coveton for him dispute the

or if I would have done, without any of no, without any no lot to

get a belal Muhammad because it's been to what's seven victories six victories

consecutively I think the last that the last was for Vincent consecutive, you know, I'm a lot of the last time

he's a lot of he maybe maybe is a lot of there's the first there's the first there I'd would be

the durin long after he could maybe after he maybe after he there but if I

would put out to putt a batte pront I'd put him so you say that there's a

people there will be kind of yeah cal me yeah relax a little

a little a laugh a laugh a god a man

but I'm talking a bit about you will

affect the now Now I'm going to I'll just with you, for you to say, for your

name of your adversary, go there. Michal Olegseshuk. Ah, I know, you know, you know,

this is there have to study the adversaries in all the form, not not so. Even though, it's a

man who's a person who usually, he's a person who's, you know, he's, you know,

Polish, so you know, you've already you've got a lot of the end of a car to say,

to do a surprise to him? I don't, I don't not, I don't not read not,

I didn't see. He is a guy that he is a more tranquilan on his there's a no I'm

not sure you know, I don't know to say that's when I'm a little mucca, I was trying

to try a old, bah, I had done an night I'd have me a new

opponent to do you to do that's a year to do you're to be to be

that's so I'm so I'm there to get a little me like Zemannet

that we're yeah this Polanese is a guy more than a guy more of good I think he

not have many of the lot of the but I'm going to see he in the summer of the

I'm going to be there the climate how he will be to be so forthance he will

say a little he or he's curiously before he before he was

I'm in Vegas and we did sawna I'm He's trocoy idea. He he helped

the old my old his camp in his he made the he was a camp with Muradov for he's canyote

and he he's just the Polonia to train with him but I don't know, I don't know how it's this

this encounter because you don't even you're going to be front but it's the guy's of your division

you know you just always look at the man the middle the man the company the person has

this force here and give a tapin on the arm he's like He was a strong here. Yeah.

In fact, it was a amissous, so, you know, he was going to be he was going to like, like, in a sauna,

I came out, I came there, we talked about a idea, so we're doing about the Moradov, to say, the, he

helped him and he, I, I'd like a lot to for him, but nothing much of

to be not, so, it was, I, I'd know that I could be

I'd would be obviously, he'd would be he'd a second, I'll

something something, I'd think it's difficult I'm going to get a

I'm in a little but I'm not a idea of the I'm not a way, it's a

like, it's a very amistos, very tranquill. I think this

lot was the most of mysteries that I see I've accompanied

the yeah the permanence of San Albe for a time he

he never some he never mortal of the family of Danawatt and the spiritita

because so this justifies the guy has been in the other long as

the series of the he had he had he was he was a bizarreiss yeah

it was it was very strange this this this right

this I think the I think the after you maintain only

just for the story he had had with the

event to maybe he's there's there was that for this,

because I also I don't understand much not he created, I think it was six derotas a lot of

some kind of something like, so it's to have been all much time of the UFC and then I'd like

this guy, this guy is not this guy, he's gonna say, ah, yeah,

it's right, it's from the fourth derrota he's gonna get a lot of this man, he's gonna

come as he's like he were in eight derrots and the last last nine lute four,

eight derrots and a impact car Like, he's it's been out of

time, he made he made a final where he's not a thing, but in the

fact, I think, six or seven children, so that this grania was very

very much that's exactly, man, I'm going to you're going to my wife, now,

my woman is a probably five months, yeah, yeah, yeah, he's,

yeah, it's a thing, for certain for sure, for for who people,

for who can't, for who I have a filer, I know I know that really in 2023

it's very very hard to have a child, so it's really, it's really it's really

a career sticked in this retina in this final but and talking in career

poor, it's a very good, it's a fourth luta in an event

the third that is a economy event so not not was when it was a

interview no the rest total you was you were the

last the last the night how how you

see this recognition you see, I think the FC know that you're special that you

may have in this local of prestige in the carges? He's he said, he knows, he's not

finalized no calteated in one of those this is something the officer, the own of the

white got, yeah, all my three looks were for decision. But I

think he know, with what they are doing with what they know the they're they know

that I know that I say I'm a Brazilian that I say in English

fluently they they know a thing a little people people people a person

and just see that's I'm a question I'm a single prospect that came in a

event that's you're it's the most people the majority of people

are getting this boonical all all these other prospects that are getting in the

category just are just are having guys four derrotas consecutively

four four derotes in the last three last last my first

Luta, I picked a guy of Dagestown 13-0, Invicto. My second last year I took the

Worldial of kick-boxin that was coming in five knockouts. The third Luta, I took the

Muradov that the last few Lutas 14 victories, you know, so I'm

didn't have a lot of event, so-l- so-l- So, the F.C. Tentor me

Tets all the times, let me see what is this mule that well, let me

see what's all the respond. And there a verdian there's a red in the topology.

So I think the UFC can't this. The other people there not so the production,

but the direction, but the officer, but the Mora M. said,

man, don't be a sad for because I was a putt I'm a

don't feel a the people don't know the high level that you have the

high level that was this lot, the guys elogued but

I'm with the part the Halle Head, that the proper company of the FC,

the guys me procurred to the stocking of the stake too, that is a house of

a post that's a that's also, I'm in the middle, and they know the

joy that they have in the money, that they're working doing all the days

to make this so I maintain the the maximum possible, I'm want to get the

signuron invicto and I will try much to what you know the

name of the guys coming of the derroth, which is a fact, he's a lot

to be a lot of for the FC 290. He has a career in discutive in wrestling

but in the MMA you think that is really hype for a little thing

much really hype man, much hype so I I don't the hype in the

really I don't I hate the I don't I don't that I'm that I'm whatever

because it's a man the time of the earth, you know, you know, what happened

with a Mexican there, poh, I'm sure of hype in the guy,

the guy saying that's being a champion in three categories. Po, he got a guy who

got him and got him, and got him he got so I think this line of

hype one hour it's, you know, I think that this bonico is just

hype, never do give much attention to him not, because man,

man, the guy mal know, he's a style very fey-

the last LUTA in the first, the two first one first one

two two guys I don't know where he came to get the first he came to

the UFC against the but the James Pickett Game Pickett Night Wolf I'm a thing that

is the thing that's the game picked coming of four derotas of the last five luts so I think it's very hype for a little

to put to a little level of wrestling. Indiscuitable, but, car, very hype,

very hype. I don't know because the UFC does this sometimes, I think, including this

will be the people of the own the people, it's the people, the truth, the truth

there's, I don't know, when these guys are so in so, you have

interested to confront him, if you get this this if you get this

They've heard, well, okay, I I want to you in front the ball and I'm in interest because in terms of rank

not a pass a lot of but in terms of hype, maybe it's better than you, you will have more attention

getting him than than you than you would have been to all the adversaries that you've fronted

because they don't are rankiated but not they're not the hype that the ball have,

it's a other or you prefer to continue to continue miring the guys to the

because you think sportively says more about about what you are? I don't me interest any of

a little bit, man. In fact, if he did more three and gain the three and I don't do any one, I'm just trying

here, be able to we're doing this thing, but I don't have any my trajectory very well written, my, my

plans very very well, my plans, much well, I think now in this little this little knock out of

those pesos there in the those pesos those pesos those people, those pesos maybe

and my plan is pass to Michelle and just get a guy of top 15 probably I'd call Calvin Gaston in the interview

of Luta so I think I think I'm interested much more to look with Gasterlin or with any guy

that's like on top 15 than with Bonn and I think he has to show more more

something he got a lot with Dresgen Gore that's that's coming

of two derrotes in the last three Luts a a guy

that has only six Lut of MMA who I think he

I think he he perdeed two a second and got a other thing. So, more a

guy there I think the guy of the good of Bonnico the level the level of he has

to be to look to people who my level and even not, just to just to

just to be a lot with Kelvin that you said that is the name that you he came

to get a in the last he came he got the Kurtz, you know, car's a

partner my guy, he's a lot of because he's a lot of I've seen how I'm in the grappling, how I control well the

and I control well. And I think with Kelvin would be a dispute really good, like two canyotos, the only difference is that the Kelvin don't shud-a-tank,

he likes much more to boxy-ah, so I would shoot more he, and I'd present more arms as a whole in the M.A. And I think

I have plenty of conditions to gain of him, but for a while I'm focused on Michelle, have to pass first of this Polonaise

Duro, and I'd make a porrada on him, finalize, or that's or that's gain by points also,

not me important is to put more a redding in Cher do, topology, and see my trajectory,

were the three luts that I did, even getting for decision, but, vencing the three

luts that did I renovate my contract with the F.C. And now I encounter this look like

as if was the first one the new, the first a new contract, so I'm

encountering it new, and Tony Mardown. Manila, Camarado, thank you for attention, for participation here on the podcast, and it abebted on the same time, my name, my name. Oh, thank you, Gizam.

Thank you. Thank you. Day 29, it will be more a show, if God, if I want to hear you to batheed up with Patrice Burtt, and then there's an interview with Bruno Brazil, talking to the Strait of NFC. As interviews comeerser ja-ja, before in a rapid interval commercial.

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we're here, we have Patricio Pitbull, champion Pesopena of Belator, who on the day 16 of June, will try to try the guy who

has the centuron of the Leves now, go in busk the centuron of the gals, one thing that was a lot of

your, deced of category, to test, but first, my best of a podcast more one way, how are

being the preparatives for a, maybe the camp more difficult of your career in

question of so, but will have to start for the first a first a little a more.

Thank you this situation is here, as a question about how it is going to how it's being

it's a more difficult. I thought that would be my great battle, it was a great feat

to be to be to fight against the title. The title not is to go to go to

get a lot, I have a great way to be a percourer but also I

have another battle Ferreen here here also not very not

very that's but I'm I've been for a much time. So I'm practically

there, from the camp past, that's I mean, it's like, I mean, from December, or October, in a diet. I just had a pain to die out of the day out for 10 days, which was the period

post-lutta that I passed, after Veckel, there in Japan, I was advised by the Belator that the battle would say more or less in the middle of the year. So I passed

10 days out of the diet, and and I was I went and I got a kind of the camp I'm in

still in the pre-camp I'm in we're in the second second week it's not not happened

it's going to go to the and I'm in going to start the camp

that's just after three two months and some days so I just I'm in the time for

the camp is eight semans then I go to start all right you're

you're you're a person with a subbed to 7-0 and conquist the

top your category always was 6-6 and you you're sofrey

much to batte 6-6-a- how is this process because you know you have

five more to cut out no the first the we don't have

the professionals defined and we do a this is a this is the

price you pay when you it is a type of pioneer

I'm not the but if you not do the

right you'll suffer like as you we're going to time. Today we're going to working with the

people who are doing this part is Chalphreidas the apple he's a scientist and in the last four luthas,

I've been taking the pace on the maximum 30 minutes in a sauna no, I don't even a bathroom

but I'm getting the weight of the recovery, the recovery of the recovery is being very strong in the luts, I'm

still in a bit of course the power. My potency has been a better. By the contrary, everyone is that everyone is

that's going to the weight of the quality physical of the athlete. And with the we're in

we're doing this way because we have a period very extensive to be to prepare

for this. Some the the end of the legion, it happens. A

we have a job all adequate for when when it is in this part to

not have this carida very brusca so I'm not I'm passing

Fombe, not not being fracco. I'll believe that we will get to get to be

with a baddied and and a lot of certain. I remember that you know in

last, about this idea of this idea of this category, you said that it

was a thing that would be a status of a lot of was a thing that was

not a thing that was a tritonon in three pieces different. But you

said but you said that resumidam that not consider the idea to

be the no the Peso Gallow, that you would Dessarie to to conquest a centuron, a no say that if you'd have a

great lute, a thing spectacular there, you don't considerate and get to the idea, what is now? Because you have

the cintrown of 6. 1. It's, to do you do the Peslevene? That's not

your intention to sub and to get, it's more to get to runca to make a question, or

you see descending and defending the centuron against the against the G. How is

in this sense of the plan? In the category of 70 kilos When I was subed, I I got a little years with this syndrome in the

because I was in the middle of the GP, of the 6 to be in the 10, without the 10, because I was occupied in the Grapprix. But we didn't get the time there

because of the pandemic and I don't continue to defend a title. It would be marked on a defense. But not it was possible. This I could

do you can do make the center once a to defend a once, and you will be able to I'm going to my category original. In fact, after, after after winning the title, if I was able to win, if God

me permitted, to wince the title of the 61, it will be marked my defense of the PES-PEN, the category not parol. So, for who is a champional simultaneous of some divisions, have this job by the front, have to be there, to be there, is, ready,

to do a job, de-gaino, to be to defend the category of the category of the same or the but I'm

going to try to try to do every more things that have been happened

the sport one of the things that I'm so much was a champion of other

organization I could wince the but maybe after

those two the two of the we're we're we're trying

the guy of the RISFL asses and the he put Robert, the proper Volcanoves who accepted the fight, who accepted, just voted just went to do

a while to do a pass to front, but not happened. And we're talking for the challenges, that me more

a challenge at the time my career. You, at least, the Beez-O-Gal, there exists a narrative

created for the first defense, because there's a champion interino, so you get the Céjo Pettes,

there, there the adversary, that is the guy who got who got who got the GP,

that's a champion entire, so, not that you, you, you,

He's got in the category now and not there's a narrative, no, there's a story that makes a sense of a lot,

there's a there's a unification. If you don't do this the defense, the guy would be promoted

the champion eventually. Even in respect to the GP, that he was created with this function, define the champion,

I think it's, it's, unfortunately Sejupus had to come to the GP

because he's muched, and it's everyone in rhythm and he he's civil in a obligation to say I'm going to get to

get some I'm going to I'm not I'm not I'm trying I'm trying to I'm going to I'm going to

get a little bit and if I am to be a champion that I'm on the same way I'm asking

the combat the ball ator have been done the beders and decided to do that

does this look does it does it does that will be winning well

and the guy to get to get to the center interringed in the GP, will have to

have to be in the goal that will be victorious in this other. I think the proposal will be good, I want to

the guys do you know, I'm really, I'm laughing, but I'm doing it's a way, it's a

suffering, and so, po, we'll pay a little a little bit with me. You, no,

in the Pesu- Peno, you have a idea of who's the person, the person, the next

the field? Because, this is this is the little bit of year, so the final of the year probably will have a proper defense,

there's a time of a lot, in a category different, so I imagine that I'm going to be very in the other, no.

Mila Rube, I think I'm came back, he had been a derotta, he left, and the guy who

got him was Jeremy Kennedy. He got of Peter Carval and then. He went to Kavale now, he'll make more

one victory, then I think the guy is this I think he best that he best, the idea would be

to the end to the end of the end of the year, it's a time imaginative of five,

six months after the last year of the Luton Degroarge different. Yeah, exactly.

I think July, August, July, August, September, October, in March, November,

November, that's what was going to be the year, and, being the first,

the story that we said, where you think you you enter in the role

general, like, the athletes, not so of the MMA in general,

for doing a thing that nobody never did, nobody in the grand events who's got this proease to have three

centurons. I'm a time. I'm pretty many finalizations, I'm many nocouts. I think I

have 12, 12 finalizations, 11 knockouts. I'm not international met since 2010, have 13 years. So,

I never was the finalization of the year, never was the year, never was the knockout of

the year, never flew the doctor of the year. I think me ignored a

but, but the most of the results don't depend on what the media think, exclude this

of my career and I'm unfortunately someone can go, I'm going to be feeling for this

and I'm being a organization that I do a possible, a platform excellent.

The guys have the idea to view Brazil, and will be in Brazil,

for people, for the people, just the people who know

the people, but the people, as the channel combat the people different are coming to to be more

in my own social, interact with people, the quantity of the radio they've diminuio

so I do it so I'm my legado maybe even I won't this title

the media sportive the world not me recornece but it's difficult to explain

in the story of the sport how that that he got he got he

got three citrons of categories different and you don't made them.

They're passing batid so this this this is of them I'm not

I'm not too I'm not you know you're always to be talking and back in talking about

recognizing my job I'm feel like this I think my family

is well is with a work that I have been doing

I'm doing I'm a structure very great for the athletes to

get to the international have many I think the recognition that I need to be

really is this there's a story interesting in 2011 no 2010 I was in Victo

I had 14 luthas and I had been in my first luteauau and I that quantity of people. And in the third,

it was my first derrota in the career to Joe Orrin. And I came, and I came in an airport, I saw that kind of a person that was there.

And when I looked to see who were, the people, it was my dad, my mom, my brother, who not had seen even,

not voyageable to me, the team. So it was my family that was there. So, these people

that are to me, if I have a recognition of these people, if I can, I can,

to bring a future to the people who don't be able to me I'm satisfied You think that this effect would be a major would be a

attention major of the Mids international if he was made, I don't say no FEC and in the Pride

because are the major of the various of the WSE if it was made in the strike force

and not no belator I have a little impression that I don't know I can't

understand because I don't understand this resistance the grand supporters that we but I think it's

it's been a ruin to scone to scone to scofferrower the career of Belator not even doesn't even understand Chris and he's the best

he's the best for her my friend, it was a double champion yeah it was but then

but then justing all total the story Chris is the the major leader

so there I can't I'm command with the numbers with the records with the citrons

maybe more one. So, it's a bit difficult to tell this story without a lot of you know, and you mentioned that one of the

thing you always did you can't do you can't be a championed to Risen that's a game, not the

countered the game? Have you this look? Now, of fact, valiant the centuron?

Yeah, it's clear, who were the best of that night, of that the lot, who went to

the victory, but if you have a little little the title, we can go to to do this combat.

I think he wants to revanch also. He saw some things in the fight that if he's he could be

good to do so, when there's a chance 50% of on the side. That is it

I'd be front of the champion of the NFL, the champion of the O'Ne, the champion of Cs

just, he's just the challenge, and it's not happened, but the the challenge

to do last time, I think, not there many things doing this sport. I'm

going to ined. Nobody did this mark. And the other thing that I know the other

thing is to fight the champion and it's interesting for the public to the public, to the organizations,

and for the people are open to the European, to do you know, in PFCL is the President Lugnan. This one was MAAG?

So, it's because there's a category is different, it's a peso pen, he's a pain, but as

they don't have the disidratation, it's like if he was a six and a but he is called to a peasant, if he

was for a bell atore, I imagine that he would be of six and he, the otto is, champion the peso pen, and in the

PFL, there's a brando-log, so there, there, there, there's a guybercoe that you

can do you can do make a tour there, for more that you can't make a thing,

but to do this of the I was a lot of my stagant this Vemez. I was a lot of light and was it was interesting. A lot of the lagas, really, really impotent. I'm a I see him. I'll see him in my Instagram and I'll see this. I can't see this. Thank you, God, God. Thank you, God. I'm sorry, so for you. I'm in this the previsation in expectative because I think

this is the only that's in data marked even, no. So Patrick had a series of a

from the future of the last of the country, he went with a lot of he's just one of the

he's just a whole of a surgery, he went to the date of the lot of a lot of the markada,

not have time adequate, there, there, there was a legion in the cervical,

serious that atrophio's his breast he, he could have been to recover, but but he's a

marked and he had to do that in the same to do not in the fight with a last year, the battle had to give a lot of

the war and he got a lot of the other than he had been able nostalgia, he's a ground four, it's been

advanced, the ground in Kaka, it's a car syruh but he could do do you do

do something now and it seems he could have merted this quadra we've a patrick

a patrick in the combat, the path, apatic of both Usman also also did

much thing. He's some few times in the few times for the back. This was the

last was the last time. This was the last time and a lotto much shuddo with a much respect

but the Russo was with the trituron but not it was the guy that we know

that he solta the bishops and I believe that in this lot we we go

against Maquia we will really the very Patrick Pitibu out

and without to be worried with the training of their he's not with the time in the time

past that he he was not not could not get to get a kind of could make just the drill

there and to make sure to make to make the part the pubs it's

yeah yeah yeah he's a guy we're we're people who

me helped that imited him for two camps so two

games is something is a long, it is much the of a year. I know

a bunch of anniversary. I know that my brother not is so bad as a invergator. So the pressure

that I put in the second at the brother will do my brother will be my brother in that he'll

do that the local of his to try to like a little in the old he

may be going to try my mom to put down and will be sure because my man has been

more more trained in this kizue we're we're trying a victory to come a victory

a victory a Vosal your GP with property. From the other side of the line we have we have in Bruna Brazil that's

now the day 15 does the first out of the FC against Denise Gomez Bruno,

bring in the podcast, how it's being the emotion and expectative to finally to come

on the octagon by the FC yeah did the lot of contendor DECR and now

now the fact the letterer is the letterer is the caranda never

me I'm I'm too very get this moment. So, I don't

see the the time to get my mal of the FC, get my my role,

I'm doing uniform. I'm living really everything what I was I didge

a five years when I really I determined to be a great athlete

of the so, thanks to get to get to the

little the things, you know, you said, you when you

was when you started to, let's do the doctor in time integral, that you had had done

of the MMA before, but not it was the priority, how is your career in this beginning,

before this period that you mentioned. It's that my first of MMA, I practically

didn't really, I didn't much of MMA, of cartel professional, I did

really, but I did really, but the emotion of doing a of the military

and all and I did a first time and I didn't nothing, I'm in a cori-soriza

so-sorize so it's so I don't understand I don't understand I'm really to do a little to

after this lot after I started to emerge in the world of the MMA and I understood

how functioned the things and I started jujitsu and I came doing some

I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm to make to make to

start my mental with people who really work with the MMA and had this discernment because when I worked with the kick-box

we didn't understand for us. A lot, if you had a lot, if you had a importance, like, in a piece,

like you, to make the your cartel negative or positive, and I, I also didn't this entangement in the M.

And then I was really to work with people who had this this understanding, the,

my vision and all that had so that then, I'd, I'd, and studied,

and and train-a-no-itrainer, not was my priority, but when I had my lesion in 2018, I think the final of 2017, that I did the Luka Del Bonn, I, me prepared I was a lot to be a lesion and everything, and then then came a lesion and all right. I, I was really blessed, how the things happened, to have received a surgery, to have received people there

of physiotherapy to me to do support and I passed a year, I'm thinking I'm thinking

I'm thinking that's like I want to be something to be doing something for me because he me did

a support very great without I imagine the people were very people who were much

for me help when I received the opportunity to the

New New York and really there I would to live

the and then it really really it it's all or nothing. Then I then I vending

everything I had, I gave my employment. Vendid all, I went to New Jersey. Then I said, car, here no,

there's been in bad, or it's for well. So it was there in 2019 that really I really I'm going to go with everything

and there's to go to go back back more. And then, the things were happening. Those first

those were more by the first, I'm doing, I'm doing, I'm doing, but you just considerable

that you would be a career in M. even being this Diversion. I didn't,

because I had never, you know, because I had a time, you know, I'd

have been a lot of the movie, of MMA, so there was that's a sure, so it was a

challenge, I think it was a new, I was a try to that was a lot of but I

did that was in the last in the first round, but for the final of the experience,

and then then then I did the other other the other the other than I got in the first lute. When I got her own little bit, she was, I'm a lot of I remember that I said, I remember that I said to me, if I gained this lute, I continue. If I'm

I continued training and dedicating. Then it was the things happening, but I had had a minute to take a porrada of lovina. So,

you're probably invicta in MMEA, when you decided do you, after that, you know, you didn't, you know,

you didn't, you know, when you, let's, you know, if you were, maybe, if it was that you could,

or what you were doing, in the fact, it was a thing less professional, it was, it was,

ah, let, let, give the better, I want to do you get a different you're doing

a different, you get a athlete that's that's a opportunity, because many the athletes don't have,

and so, sure, you have chances to gain normal, but the advantage is for who really

really live that's 100% the focus, I think this is the great differential. And then I've

I said, I said, I think God me giving an opportunity to have a great athlete, that was my

dream, since my, I'm now I'm going to do with all right, I'm going to go to get into the way I'm going to see a lot of

you're in a football, in Wutsal, in kickboxing, you feel you were looking something that really you'd have a pleasure because the football

that was the more legal, unfortunately in the Brazil, especially in that era today, it's difficult imagine years ago,

you know, You were in busk of a job that you could live with a athlete or a game, so that football

I'd try to a son, it was a real unviable to do a career and gain a money with it. Exactly.

So, when the football was a great frustration for me, I always, it was my dream of

a child and when I did, when I went, when I went, when I was 17 years,

then I went to a team football, then I'm then I'm became very, much, much shateate

and I had to some offers and all, but I did, but I could be able to

and I was my parents didn't want to say, me, I said, me, we don't have

how you can't keep in other city, and for you pass perennue and all

and then I said, me, I'll say, me, I'm going to be doing something,

I'm dedicated I did get a lot of college, I was working in this

area, so that I, always, I'm, always, and I had used some activity

physical, I didn't I was not because of the hours of the work, to do the work at the

work at I'm going to I'm sure I'm sure I'm a part of actually I'm really, yeah,

and my focus always was in football and I said I'm going to do you know I'm trying to try to learn in

in a Maringa that I'm from the there's been then fluio I'm going to get viciated

in a thing, I'm like I'm thinking about talking about everything started about me

start much so in kick-box by the facility of learning, the versatility like to

really, to bring that that I had in football, maybe, to do you do some of the things that I

would have to do that I was really living, and the good I would dependia of other partners of

training to to the ball to get in me, so it was all depended to me practically

so it was much much more much more more fast because I had a control

the situation and this was me really so very gas. So I

knew that in kickbox it was very difficult I was a athlete professional and to gain a year with that I'm I'm trying so the opportunity

really came but it was really, but it was so I'm like I knew that would be difficult when I

when I knew the MMA that passed over there had Anderson Silva Rhonda I said carac

this thing can't can't get to get to yeah so my interest

so that so that really was really was really really really structure in my

city to the MMA the person or was the Maitai or was the Jiu-Jitsu so the

first was kind of conturbated so imagine that the box with a box with a comparison of

a salary in the football feminine of the clubs menores when you

look for you will get this end of this end of this if you get the

you're going so you're $100 million how is the reality of football? You know, if you look, the great

clubs of football feminine in the Brazil, who is the I can't get a I remember, I remember, I remember,

when I went to the Fos Caratas, there had a lot of the women's, that were in me, I remember

that my salary was $500 and the of the womenas were, the of

the menas are, like, and I like, and I, like, they'd go, two,

million real, because I gained $2,000, so 2,000 was a legal. But if you see, po, a misery for those women that

was in a generation Brazilian, so it's a parameter. And this frustra a lot of because you think, me, for I'm going to

get on a martha, it's a sport collective, it's very difficult. Because there, there, the panellina,

there, you have, you, have, other to be good, you have to, everything

does all right, very, very certain, and you have to be really, really, persistent, and

the things don't come were the form that I wanted. I thought, oh, is it really I'd desisting

very easy, I'd be a little pesable to me in this, I was quite much too frustrated with

this, by my attitude to have to have the situation, but when I was art

martial, was like a vabula of escape and form to really do the pastes

with me myself, you know, of that that person, that woman that was a kid who had a dream and could be recompensate

to some way, for the failure, you know, and how is you see the M.M.A. because the M.MA, you, so,

to wincer, not the because you can't have, you know, por, a cartel 20, zero, and

not be to be called for Bela Tore, for the great and the world, because there the side of

the carism also, how is you know, how you did this when you did this my career?

How is, how you saw, the possibility of the future to get at this moment, because

even the same thing that's the people who do you look for a bols of $300

it's better if you go to go to get a money or take a

car for 300 or not or it or the grace yeah well then it

so it's it's fos yeah it's I'm so much

I did I'm never me ligas it's complicated but so

the certainty it's it's much more is more palpable in the MMA you're getting

in the Kikibox you get in a grand event you're going to get much. Or in football feminine that you will, to be a repent,

get a salary legal of $2,000 per month, but even as compared the first box of F.C. It's very

little so I think this certainty of that I would be a pen, to learn

all over everything, would be a recompensator in the future really was the great start

because I think if it's not if I would have to I'd have been doing some those other other

continuing the my life working working like a work but I think I don't would have a escado

because the recompense not would the opportunity I read a time these days of

an business of an American of and he said I never never had never

to think I never had to think if if you if you could to pick the major leagues of the world

in its certain to the sports, it's much more easy you get in the top of the MMA,

than you get to the top of the football American, which is NFL, in the great teams of NB. Mani B.

But for F.C., it's a fast. You can't. But it's those sports Olympics, it's very difficult.

The new my no-euvre was the sports Olympic. She was from the Ciconder. And, I said,

I'm sure, I mean, I said, I said, our sport Olympic, the advantage to be a

ball, the athlete, but it's much concordered. The box, I've had a moment there that I've

come very with with the people of the year when I go to work in Guarroja. It's very difficult.

You have to pay, you have to pay to pay for to have to be a title, so it's

very, very difficult. The M.M.A. is more real, it's more palpable than these

other sports, with certainly, so, for you have a condition of a

the media social us really to not just to not just you can't have a point there's a port

also in the part the media to be a star, a celebrity that this also does a stimuler to

an stimuler to an because if you think on the bolsa in the not much

the money for the investment that we do you do because we do you

do a camp a year for a campaign there to a business to portion of discount

in the front. And if you get a little, if you you're probably you just are paying

to put up to the U.S. the dollar is super high, the passage is really car, and to bring the

people, so it's an investment very high too also. And with the media, we can't

make a work to do you, to get a partrocinio, to take a little of our question,

poe, I'm, but I'm practically out of nothing, you're going to be a gullator, you're going to

guarantee that you don't have to get a good exactly. I'm going to I'm going to do with a lot of I'm feeling

I'm a little doider, then I'm trying to take this piece of poor, don't think on this,

you have to train and and I let's the rest, but in the beginning of the

career is very difficult, it's a thing I and my thing, I and the Kyle, Kyo Boeh

was talking, like, many, the athletes people, people, when not to get in the FC, my life will

not be so, first contract, if you're, if you're going to get a bonus of the night, okay, but if for a career,

po, just a victory normal and or a or another, it's just investment. The your life not will be

going to be more pressure, because poor, the whole lot will be in Europe, your lute will be in Vegas. You're who

will have to pay a passage, because the FCC, he does there two passages, but if you want to your team,

it's out of your bolso. If you want to to get to get to adapt it, it's out of your bolso. So, it's

complicated, like, not to not be able to my life the night to day, it's a hard, it's a

new step, yeah? And this Saturday, then the book, the book, the book,

the book, the book, the book, the book, that's, there's, put, that's a,

put, the, it's, the, there, , I think, I think,

I think much, I think much on the bonus, like, for all the athlete, who don't want to get the bonus. But it's a

thing that I think if it's going to be going to be going to be going to get a cause, because I think

that it's a lot of the fight to get a kind of the fight will flower, and the

performance will be and if the bonus will be, better even yeah. How is you

can get the the day of this sabbara? I'm I'm confident in knockout I'm

think I'm I'm seeing, but let's see, let's see. A we can get up with the show this second to make

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