MMA Fighting - Trocação Franca | O Futuro De Lyoto Machida (+ Marina Rodriguez Pelo Cinturão)

Episode Date: February 2, 2022

Lyoto Machida pode estar de saída do Bellator. Em bate-papo com o Trocação Franca, o ex-campeão do UFC revela que explorará o mercado após completar a última luta do seu acordo com a franquia e revelou planos para o futuro. O “Dragão” comparou a evolução no MMA ao episódio do 7x1 e falou da experiência no sumô e caratê. O podcast dessa semana traz também uma entrevista com Marina Rodriguez, confiante que uma vitória no UFC 272 lhe garantirá uma disputa de cinturão. Ela conta, ainda, como saiu de uma gráfica para lutar MMA e a importância do irmão, paratleta, em sua carreira na luta. O melhor do MMA brasileiro no Trocação Franca, toda quarta-feira, com o jornalista Guilherme Cruz e convidados. Lyoto Machida could be leaving Bellator. Speaking with Trocação Franca, the former UFC champion revealed plans to test free agency after his final Bellator bout and discussed his vision for the future. “The Dragon” compared the evolution of MMA to Germany’s 7-1 win over Brazil, discussed his experience competing in sumo and karate, and much more. Then, Marina Rodriguez stopped by to discuss her UFC 272 clash with Yan Xiaonan and possibly fighting for UFC gold next. She also revealed how she went from working as a graphic designer to fighting MMA, and the importance of her brother — a paralympic athlete — to her sports career. Listen to Trocação Franca with Guilherme Cruz every Wednesday to hear from the biggest names on the hottest topics in the Brazilian combat sports world. Follow Guilherme Cruz @Guicruzzz Subscribe: http://goo.gl/dYpsgH Check out our full video catalog: http://goo.gl/u8VvLi Visit our playlists: http://goo.gl/eFhsvM Like MMAF on Facebook: http://goo.gl/uhdg7Z Follow on Twitter: http://goo.gl/nOATUI Read More: http://www.mmafighting.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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and representing the M.M.A. Fighting in Brazil, Guillermo! Hello, my friend of Luka, well, the 22nd episode of podcast, Trocaation Franca. A sua case on this immense

to Poldeshire. I'm Gailermie, correspondent of the site American and Meefearian in the Brazil and I'm going to find out of a lot of mutiny, the Lus, the Loretta,

and the promessa pesupal to do those interviews master specials. The Karateka said with exclusivity to the podcast that recused a offer to renovate

to Rector to test the value of his value of course, but Marino Rodriguez disbanded the first of the UFC 272 against YANN

Yan Sha'Anan will, a her, a dispute, a centuron, contraven to the reason of Rousonae

and Carlos Pazza until the end of the end of the first interview is with a dragon and she starts now. From the other side of the line, we have Liotto Matida, ex-campion of the FC, currently, the Lutator,

of Belto, and more important than all this, am I mean, my friend, of the Bebetta, the academy. All right, my friend. All right, all right, yeah,

all right, all the pleasure to be to you in the podcast. How are there's things for there? As always, training, me maintaining,

always that I can be interacting with the people through the social, but it's that it's it's a little. Maneer,

so I'll start with you. There's a time we've been in a time, there's a nine months almost a year

from your last time. How are your plans with this? When is we can't see to

to see to back to the Belcher? Look, like, in fact, we're trying

to try to finish of the year now, March, final of March, This is the data that I want.

But it's not not the right. It's a thing that depends much, I think this category of Belator to 8.4,

which is 8.5. She's starting to get more agitated now. It was a category

that not a lot of people. So, it was for this that I also, I

also decided to do that the Grand Prix, I decided to part to the category

to the same, because I was the category of the category of now

is more a little. Apes of there's great lot of the but I don't

see if it's a because the Bellator starts to put a focus in different categories,

depending on the year, but it's, because the format is a different of the FECC. The plan

then will be to come to back to go to put up to put up to the other or the

middle, you think it is the reality, in the reality, in the most part

of my lot, I did do the category in the Bannato if you

if you were to be, and he going to be to get the piece. So the

major part of the category I did in the lot of the one of the one of the category that's

a time that not a minute. I said that's about it's to do that the category to the same,

depending on who was the person, I'd top there I'd be able to keep in

the category of 84 kilos. I remember that you came to talk that was disposed

to make a lot with a fend of a piece pesado, not that's a because,

because I not that I don't that I'm a but depending the opponent, it's just value a pen,

by the name of Feddo, the Feds also he's a guy so great so great

so much he's a person so much a guy so much a category not in

the F.C and the Belator is very different, the time of the time of the

guys. We see by the endergature and the height of the

we know that moved much. This is a idea that we

interest? The Fedor who's, you know, that the Beltor is trying trying to

find a person to a little to a little to a lot of a little to be a middle of a

middle of a lot of a deal, but if you know, I'm not really, I'm am I'm

my way, I'm not, I'm not, because what happens, we're not, we're, we,

we're, we're a other vision, you know, but as a , you know, a new a business,

you know, it's a better to me to look at in a category of 8-4.

Now, as a little a new, always that's a opportunity new. And the fredder is a guy that everyone

know that is a legend of sport, it's all respect, and we know, and we get a

opportunity, but I want, in a matter to look at my category. I'm with the car of the

size of my size, the size of my size, the because I know, the

category of the same, it's like, you, you don't have a right to err

much, you know, If you err really, you get there and it's difficult to get in the fight,

like my life in a lot of Ryan Bait. Ryan Bade, in a champion a peso and he's a very much as

a lot of B 3. I'm in B so I'm in B so much so it's a difference enormous

know, the day of the R&B is more than 104, if I'm don't me about,

105, yeah, and I'm of muscle, I'm so I'm got to no-3.

Then I'm gained nothing after the amount of the thing, no-ke, 93 I peasey, 92 and a

but, and I did, but I don't I didn't put any one kilo, practically, difference. So, this, I don't have this advantage of the piece, you know, that we know that it's a lot, even though when a lot of go transcorrending to the third, fourth, fifth,

round, you know, this peasant. You're not going to, how much? 93. There's many people who pease in in the tone of this this, this peso and that's

a lot of you're a year, you're a guy that's you're not soft, it's a but it's

possible to get to set, seven? I don't see, you know, never

I never tried this, I think I could even have to do you have a job more professional,

I'm saying with a company, and everything could be to be able to be so-se-7-7

we don't know. But it's a thing difficult to say, because I never, in

7-7, I never, I had to think I think 18 years 19 years when I batted this piece

so, so I'm in this category now, now, all the challenge, when the

guy is a dot-dott- and got the we're always if we get to 7-7,

which pass a new design- you know, you say, say, 7-7, go,

go, it's a 9-3, by the other the the challenge, you know, so, so you always

always get to try to go, but as you said, the focus is in 8,4, is there

just in a year, in the scenario ideal, you said, the end of the end of the

last year, who would be to find out, who are, looking, on the plantel of the event,

who you think you think should be a good, that's the last the last,

the John Sauter, is a lot, you know, because, I said, I don't

have been so much of the category, I wanted to be more movemented, you'd have to my momented,

you know, I'm sure, and I'm sure, and the guy that was the guy who came to a lot of a lot of

a lot of a lot that would be a lot of good, you know, in this category of the back. He was a guy, he

was an man, he came down to meet him, but he's very good, there in various finalizations. The game

of a contrast of your, you know, you're a character of obviously, he has the victories

for finalization, So this type of a deal, a a keb-a-cabre-cabessa, is one of the things that you motivate to mirro to him as a adversary?

With certainty, with the fact, in the reality, we don't call much in the M.M.A. We know that the majority

that's there come to the wrestling, you know, the majority of the people, especially the American, they're doing

wrestling, there's a characteristic more of a lot of a lot of but I'm so façap de Jiu-S

also, I train wrestling with the Glover, with the guys with the guys, I've trained wrestling with many guys, do wrestling and I'm in my career

a lot of time. So, not it's new thing for me in this. Now, it's not, we know that the MMA

has been evolving, the person that negate this, she, not is a company not, I know that the is evolving,

I know that, it's like football, I compare much as a football, you know, if you're look, for example, when the Brazil

perished, nobody understood. Poh, the Brazil had the best of the Germans, and he'd been to to the German, but the question, not a question of a question of a question tactic, you know, strategic, the German played in block, in a cup. So, they

attacked in block. It was four, five in a ball here, four, five in a ball, and he, would have been, and surprised all the world. The world entire was sprained by the scheme of the game of in the year

that there's the Cup of the world that's the campanats the World, the campanats the Eurocopa

that roll normally, the system blocker was over the process. So it's another system

that I don't see, it was a system, and it's a B.N. And so, it's not

that the people are those are more than the others, you know, I think the I think the

system that is put in the moment, you have to have been to be actualized.

You know, the golfs that are called, you you have calf kick, that

that's a pantorillia. The pantorillia. Of a a bit of a boom. Everyone was doing that all the shoot.

Today, it's got to gop of the volley, you're doing, the guy, no, and then we see,

the sports are evolving. This is very important this understanding, so, not just for who's

the tank, the technicians, understand that if you think the other that was a champion in 2009,

with that the game of the 2021, 22, 23, with this game, don't go. Because the system is the system mud, you have to adapt it, they create an

antitone, you know, and if you not move, it, it's overpassed. That's not a more novelty to the people. There's always there's a way to quebrow your game. So, so, shoot, and everyone who defends, a drop, too, derubes, too,

or another, and all of them today, does a show, can not be a specialist in the but it's a chowen but you're to be a basic to be

to be in to be able to do you so what is the system that's molded you have to be able to

understand this if you don't understand this you know you're you're you're in 2009 was 7 to 1

you were you were a German exactly that that's that guy inbat that nobody could

that nobody could be it was it was difficult for you did some to some you

did what you did you was you did it, because it was so difficult to be led, you had that base very characteristic of karate, of course, you also had Jujit, had the sumoah, there, had other arts that you'd trainable,

but it was difficult as many to see what you had so much, and could understand that you needed to addioner new arms to be able to continue to win, then, after, for example, the derota for Shouou, in moments difficult you did.

It was difficult, yes, because you've been in prison a characteristic during many years. even because in that you see a little lot of the fighters

good in-pays that I want to have a notion very good of distance of time, of combination of the

goal, of time, of time to get the you see a very many the errors in that was

that I had a lot but but today this is not sufficient you understand

if you just you just just you can't be having to have to

to be, you know, to be evade the guard of the car, know, to know the time to get to

get to get, they're in these are men miscions now, because, so can't shoot,

who can't do you know, you know, YouTube, you get on YouTube, you know, YouTube, you do you know,

and you know, to do you go tojit, you goelial, there's a foot, there, so the, so, the

question, so, so, not, and who, so, so you're to be

to be on the game, front-a-front, as a friend, as a front, as a technique, or as an athlete, you have to be studying, understanding that the

game must be every year. Every year, at every year, a case, eight, months, come, there's new, there's

new, there's a new, but we talk about art martial. When we're talking to art, it's illimitado the business.

You can't paint how the quadd you want to be talking to you're not talking to something

ingestated. You see that gops that are going to see that you don't imagine,

know, campbalo of volleyball, it's a it's a real, you know, what I'm talking.

And this I'm talking about the lot in- paris. You imagine if you say you

say, do Jiu-Gitz, the ball that appears, you know, so, so, this conception, who don't

have this conception today, the tendency is to be suming and suming and so- so-and.

So, this is a thing I'm going to say I don't say that I don't say that I'm not I'm not

the the I always receive notifications of, you know, of, of lutses different, of the jocosures different, of, you know, of, of, you know, of transitions that happens in the lute, for that I can be able to be able to have been had been added this to my game, have moved

to train in other place to to make a work, you can't point to some way that

you should have been have done. So, what I see, so, this

corrections, it happens diaringly, if we're doing, dailyally you're doing,

and you're doing something, specifically in that period, you know, the show room and

the team of the strategy very, very good, how it's it, much very well elaborated

to me to be able to me to front. And, and, like, all the world from there, started a strategy

very well, to be able to study. There's the same Jail-Lorence who's the battle against the

Brian Bader, he said, he said, the other, the other the other against you. Because,

because I have to study all, you know, how you come in the time you the time, the time,

it's, you're not, if you were It's very, it's not to see, you know, the way that you look, I'm talking to the karate that I adapted I'm not talking to karate

sportive, you know, I'm talking to do you know, I'm talking to adaptate. So, and this it's completely, you know, so, so, so, so, the day that I I was perjury to get to Chon, I think was a

strategy of it, it was very well elaborated, you know, so it was difficult to say that, oh, I could have have been bettered here, it's difficult to say

but for the past of the years, yes, you know, with the past two years, in the year, in the year next, in the year next, we have to be accompanying this, and be moving. I remember of a interview that your father gave, in that

the death, saying that he, as a father, thought that you'd be able to be able to that you'd be able to that time, or in some moment after that year? No, because,

I respect much the opinion of my father, but I see him that he looked like the son, in that moment. and not as an athlete. Because the athlete, Guillem, is this. The our career,

she's only has story when you sob and when you go and death, when you pass through the moments. And, and, I'm not here

just to do you have my career, I have, I have my children, I have, some of the students that I've got to the seminar and

that we, to one, we can, we, we can, we, this, and this, and this,

and this, and this, and this, and this, and this, and this, of the bar, this is part. I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said,

if he had to pared three years ago, he had to talk about it, nobody would have the name of Glover today. And the Globe is turned a champion, is a bit pesado of the FC. Mostering what? You know, that the trajectory, it continues. You have to, really, when you see that not

not, you know, that you, you know, know, can't, but it's the hour to separate. And this, my father said, when? 11 years he said, he said imagine how the other I did this,

how many of the victories, how many of the battles and I pass it, and as far as all the time, I think,

because I look this to be an learning this to come a next generation to pass to other people who are,

who I see, so I look with these eyes. You're a car who's with

with 43 years now but it seems to formone because I'm I don't

have any experience to get any so in form, so, so, so,

so, so, so, but I don't know this, I'm not don't know if I'm too,

so I'm not to do you, have to do my life to get to get to get to take the dragon,

so, that's a idea, to do you, to do you, to do you, but, but,

but you, what, what, what, what, what, I'm, imagine,

you know, you have, that you imagine, you have, a plan, a, a, ,

What is your plan for the future in this sense, at long-pros? Look, like, Billion, is, what I don't want is terminate this form, you know, like, as well as the majority of the people, I want to say,

I think it's good for me. I don't want to get to me and other people say, you know, and even, even, even, even, even, even, the form of I think I, and I'm, who decide, is I.

It's, of course, we have to have a opportunity to look to. You have to know, but, but you have to have to have to have an opportunity.

I can't know if I'm a cabo of ass but if you don't have to have been no adiant so the same

so I'm want to continue to be in not see more four lutes, three, four luts,

I don't know, today, when I was, when I was more young, ten years after, I was done,

I'm, I was taught that each was like, I'm always been done this, from the other,

the samurai, when he went, it's, like if it was the ultimate life. Or so he has to try to

in the training and in a little bit of mentally and then, more than never. I don't

be here, imagineing that I will make three, four, five, five, each other, for me,

like if it was the ultimate lute, not in the way, in the sense of the career, but in the sense of

and I'm going to take a decision. You know, I really, I want to do more a lot, really I

really want to do more another. Because the chamois there's there's a thing that's

the same, that's the important. I'm the work, I'm I'm a free here, but I'm going to

do you, I'm doing, I'm doing to train at my garage, I'm going to go to be going to be

a globe, I'll do the seminary, so, so, it's a a, a thing, it's a case

different from the person of a person, you know, a guy, you know, no, you

want more, you know, I want more, you know, I want, know, I'm creating a a game different.

I want to do things different, that me give experiences different and to fight. It's better in an organization that has been a

present as Scott Cooker who said, that you know that you'll definitely, that your plans, the retina of your career,

and for example, there's a guy like the posture more the opposite, the other side of the mocker, that's,

ah, no, this guy has to be to be posent, he has been to be press, For you, for you,

to be a better to be in an environment like that? Look, I'm going to say, the two

environments for me I'm, I'm too I'm too because it's more about me, you know, than about the event,

you know, more about the whole, if the Annaut talks a new this for me, uh, and another

other no-and-a- other no-uh- and so-oh-a-oh-a-oh-a-oh-a-oh-he. And, of a-repeat-rererererererere maybe, and I'm not more rendening

nothing. And the Scott-Coh, maybe, it's different, but I also, if you were to look at my my life at all

my life, I'm, I'm not having been seen the last time, but it's a disparity, you know,

it was a thing that I really, I was a car, yeah, I don't a passer of

car, you know, my brother a man, a guy, is a lot than I, did my jihits

and my food and did you, he didn't pass my guard, he tried, you know,

I, I tried to be in-p-pair, not not able to get in the way, if you go to look at a matter of met Mitrione who are a guy much more pes-pessed, and other guys of the peasant, and other guys

of the peasant were with the proper FEDA, also, you know, passed in difficulty too, you know, so. So, so, I think, the two patrons are good, I think

the two patrons are good, so, so, the guy, was a guy very good, and was a guy who's really good, and I respect much, too, so, so, so,

you know, so, you know, that thing, I'm with a good, different, you, if the sun, it's a lot, it's very good. If the chuvva,

it's very not reclama much, you know, it's a ball to the front, is what we're to the moment is that we're

going to be in my desire, I go ahead and I'm going to get the desire, but I accept, accept it that

do it less, you know? You're with the contact with the Bela-Tor now? I'm in

a lot of a lot of, this There some movement of to renovate the contract before the

or will end up the contract or will test the market? No, they were to say, no,

we'll renova there, if the other want to want to do this little, we'll let's see this

one, so, every little. So, if it's been so in the past, now more than never

in the movement of the MMA atual, the market very aquecated, various options, not

so in MMA, there's a lot of option and much of course of combat. So, being a free agency in this moment, it might be a thing awesome, maybe to renewing with Belor, having a bolster much more, or to be able to other other places.

What do you move more in this moment? What would you move would more? It would be the question of financial, like to do, make a chance of a bit of mey and not even much more, no, I'm in the certainty that's with a life comfortable, but it would be a good, a place that you'd offer me

or exactly because you said, the other thing that's like, oh, man, this here is very good, it's a lot that's a lot of

my, you know, at the five of the morning instead of to get in the way, definitely the challenge. Definitely the challenge. Logic the money

is important, he comes up, but, so the challenge is what moves the people, you know, if you're doing

something just just for the money, that's fracko. that. That's secondary, as it's secondary,

as it was, what I'm moving, I'm talking for me, and I'm by the example of the other people who

I've seen, not only in the world in the world of the world of the other types of other types of

professions that exist. The money has to exist because it is the mercement,

is the what you worked for that you, but he never can come a front.

at the moment that the money that the money pass in front of the people, of their desires, of their dreams, this is very fraught. So, I'm not sure that

I want to continue to be lotelling, because it's what me motiva this. At the moment that it's not, I'm going to try the gear,

I'm going to put to the other time, I don't go to put the other but I don't want to think I'm in a newvating, that I can do

a thing different, that I'm a good , the money, the money will be in

second plan to me. The money important. Now, when we say,

a great proposal, and then you know, you know, will get money on the

money and that you know, and that's this happens that you understand, I'm talking so,

I'm not looking for the time that I see, but, my name is forth, I'm,

I'm will exige the my payment. I will exiging what I merit. If everyone's getting, because I don't want to gain too. All the money. Everyone is less you. Yeah,

now I don't prepare. I don't know. I'm prepared for to be a student. What I'm prepared was to be a guy that can't give me to know with the other people, you know, of a form direct or indirect,

to pass a message that I want. So, that's what I'm prepared during all my life. And that my father, too, my mom, too, my my husband also, contribute very much as a

growth as a so I always I always have a interview here a little bit of but I'm a little about this that we're

we're all in the we're all over this, a day this here is this here is it will be after and what will be you have some

that you interest that you move along of MMEA some, we've very in the modern the box now,

the Wannison Syve went to to the box the minotor doting the box also, many people going to

box, but you also, you, I'm an ambassador of the Karate Kombat that's doing a great, turning the sport of the carate more popular,

with a format different, that attract who don't, not custom accompany the carate. Some of these things would

be you interest would for the future? Liljian, the second, if you talk of

a lot, you know, it's always been a different, because I I've lute Jiu-Jitsu, I I've lute submission, I lute

Subm-I, I've lutee, I've lured, I've lured, I've lured, I've done to get to I'm playing with a lot, I've seen that I'm in box, a carate-combat,

always be very when I've been when I said, the chama inside of me, you know, to go to the academy, to

train, to get my material, in other day, you know, to be happy what I'm doing that I'm doing.

This always in the time of me. You know, now, now, You know, never

that's not that's where I want to do the time. So, for the while I'm

open, because I'm really, I'm trained to do what I'm trying to do you know, but I

don't feel and I'm sure, with the box, the carat combat, are many times, so,

to be doing to do you to submit and I, and I many times not went

because, so, it's been a thing, I'm quite kind of, I'm, I can't take

a champion of submission, you know, a Greg Jones, and to fight with me because I'm a guy specialist,

now if you're a guy of the MMA, a guy who did a guy who did not, we can't look up,

you know, different, you know, a approach different when we're the way we're this way, so. Of all the

arts individual, you've done, the carate, that was your entire entire what, what was the

most of the most of submission, of sumo, of box, of Muait, what was the most,

what was the more difficult to you compete, so. I think it was Jujit, the Submish, because,

it's a very popular, you know, the business, and since, since, when I've started, it was very popular, and the people always

were always practiced, not trained, really, and it forced me, to train, and to be, and then, you know,

the Jiu-Gitz, for sure, was the real Shum-Misch, in the fact, was the, was the, where I had,

more difficulty, not for no train. But by the evolution of the you know, you know, even if you know, even if you're going to do you know, every day that's every day that you see a new different.

And the most curious of all to us for me is imagine the sumo, because we're here in the ocean, we have that image classic, that of Sumo, that's a guy gigante competing, two guys grandos, they're one, upon the other, and you look for you, for you know, for you, poor,

inform a guy, a man, he says, like, man, he'll look at a lot, man, he'll get a guy, a guy, of 200 kilos? Yeah, no, but it's, but he's, but Sumo, Amador, that is diffunded in the world that we'd like to put out of the pandemic, one of the post,

it's not, it's not quite, it's not three categories. The levee, it's to 85, look this level, until 85, the medd, it was a category that I made in the meantime, you know, in the time, and the idea

to be the same, but it's is the pesable, understand. So, I had 901, 92 kilos, but I looted with the guys of 105. Now,

I don't peake anyone, of 200 kilos, because then it's a category professional. Not that the armador not have, but the professional, the guy, is other level. The velocity is another level. The pancada that gets over the

when the guy barrens, it's another level, but the armador, he is more, like, I don't know if you're more a grappler, you know, it's more, like, it's more a cut, you know, it's, it's just to get it, and derubing. In the professional,

at a minute, you can't keep to get, you can't make sure, don't let you get, you know, it's just without without secure at a time.

You know? You've got to train with a person of a person of a guy of these,

such a time? I never never, never, never, I never, I'm,

I'm not, the guy, but the guy was, like the MMA, you know, the

guy was like, 50 of the country, he was a difficulty, said,

this guy, he gave a lot to in Belend so, he, he gave the job,

he, got the person, he, was, old, he, was,

than one year more than I two years, but the SUU is a more difficult because if you don't so go you're cut out basically this

if you don't get the results that you have to be cut out and he started to do a guy, a guy who is a guy who is 140

kilos, he don't know to talk to the car, you 'd get to a point, you imagine the the level

professional you know, so that's then you can't then you know can't imagine a this day?

And in the carate if I rollass in Karateecombatist, you'd imagine someone who would say, you'd say, you'd say, when you'd say,

it would be to get to a MMA. Imagine in the Karate also, you know, not see, entering there,

contra, the guy who's doing this those last 20 years, right, for much that you have,

you know, the experience in sports, you know, when you're on the primary names of the story,

the modality in MMA, but a guy who just did this in the last years,

he's, it's like, he's like, he's, can't imagine that you will imagine that you're going to to get to get

to get to it's different if it's very that's a it's a a modelity that's a much more more aberted

than the carate of competition if you're going to talk about the carate of competition today it's very difficult because it's

it's much too, it's much the velocity the guy with this palm that in distance you just marked the point in

you don't don't even to talk in you know and the guys are much it looks a lot

it's very really it's really rapid shita shita There's just the chids of scorpion, the guys come back and met here, you know.

Now, the Karatee combat, not. It's a lot of contact major. It's a lot that's in a knockout. It's a lot that's not a lot, that's all the hour.

And I'meh, golf, and judo. The car has been, a lot, not, the doesn't matter. The luteau. So, this me favorrese. Entente?

This me favor, this, I'm starting of this principle, I don't me important to be the other side. Because it's a art that I dominion,

is a art that not par the art that's a lot, and it's a art that the contact is a matter, so no matter

if the guy be dis-to-the- car, because he will take also, it's like, it's like, it's like,

more restricted, as in the records. But, but the part of the promotion, it would be more interesting

to get a other than a guy of the character of a character specifically. Yes, yes,

yes, yes, with someone of the M.A. That's, Steve Tompson, is a guy of the M.MA, let's see another

guy, the George Sampierre, but the George Sampier was offered and he didn't kiss. The guys wanted to finish this lute. They wanted, in a future, after that could have been doing a contract, I'd want to do you, I think of the

thought of a lot of R, I think he, he enceivore his career of his really, you know, the event, came to offer him to this, this lute? No, the event called, me, asked him,

asked, oh, you'd like, you'd would be with Sampier? Then, he said, no, I'd, I'd I'm with other projects and it's because, the public is difficult to understand, we think,

as a very, we think, as a lot, the guy, don't know, I don't think in this. I don't believe

in this. I think it's a good, and he is a certain to look like a new thing, is it, is it right,

now, at this time of this, to be a character of a combat, if he was

a guy who was a character who had a , he had a name very strong,

you know, looking as a new thing, it's a new, you know, now if you look at the

look at the look at the look at the time, we're in the way, I'm going to do that you for you're

for you're for you, you're just, you're going to San Pierre, poor, you've got to get out,

you're going to go to know what's and go to and go to the car-re, why I'm going to

do you, because I Exactly, exactly, I'm looking as a business, I don't know if it's worth it. It's not a simple train, you know, a competition,

so it's a, so it's a, it's a, there's a whole, uh, a scenario involved there to divulge this,

and it pays, never peser, so Pierre, a guy who is a icon of sport, and no, there, you know, who's,

who's different, then, then, then, the Stiff and Topps are, maybe, maybe it's,

maybe, be, native, it, more jove, also we can. So let's see what the guy

has to come back in the future. But first I'm going to say, first I'm going to my Luteau and see what going to be

going to back to front. And just to we'll be a first day now, it's a

year, it's a anniversary of the first of the first of the first year that victory that was a

shot, for the knockout in the same of the Chicago Silva, what

what the most more much more than back to back to that you lived

in the UFC? Yeah, it was very very cool it was a time, I didn't know to explain,

from the end to the final, I see many people I don't have to reclame, I don't have to reclimate

and I don't know of nobody, I think the event was very good with me at all the moment,

you know, I always me put in the position of the event and many sometimes, sometimes

not had a performance that I had a thing, but I'm -o-o- -d-o-li-

-trit- me critiqued but he not is wrong he's right he's right and car when you look

this as your major master the critic is the most of your major master you know where you learn you

get into you know you can't and it's so I look it's like a thing like a good

so my career in I don't have been to reclame nothing it was it's all good for

carambe you know until the moment that the Donald had to a minute he had been

a man he was out of, you know, and not a lot, it's an important for me

in that way, I'm sure, I'm not not sure, I'm not not I'm not it's not, man,

it's good for me, you know, me, me, impulsed here. Now, talking to

the lute, I think the the the lot, the lot of, the lot of the after I

came to the sturtain, that I, for me, I've, I've been a year, my career,

my son, and the , and the , the lute, that was a lot epic

there's a goal different a lot a little the fight about the little bit Belfort

also so the so the the fight range of a lot of a lot of I liked

a lot of the fight a lot of a child was a guy that was a guy that was a

very well was invict too and we would be confronts there everyone

talking about him was more more more more more

more pesed but I could that that I did be more

the and wincer, and me to take the arrow shots, that was a part of that

that was in that I'm marked a lot of so that's like I'm very much, you know, I'm very

very grateful everything what happened, I'm very happy with everything the Fesc wonderful

thank you much for the participation here in a podcast, parvents for the bellissima

career, I'm anxious for the next passos I'm thank soces

thank you so much thank you Thank you. After you'll hear the talk with Yota, we're going to get over to interview with a Maria Rodriguez, and she'll start just after

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with a LUTA Mark, now, against Yan Shaanan, on the day 5th, a month, a lot of a lot of a lot of

first, you know, first, how are the things for there in the podcast? Thank you. Thank you, thank you,

for the good, all the way possible, and it's all a lot of a lot of impossible, now in this

moment that I know, the time, the title, so the I. Yeah, I came there to

make to make more this degrade in the buska the centuron. It's a lot But I imagine that

I'd have done a point in a point in a point in a point in with all the novel of who are going to be

going to be Carl Spars or Dana White made sure that not got to know that Carl Spars to be a time

too, you know, it's a time tryro shot direct? Ah, yes, the FCC that's, if he said

Marina, I would say I'd say, I'd say, but I'm going to be that I'm the certainty,

in the fund that the Carla was a merit of this chance, uh, even more

that would be a revenge, that's a really, it's a question of public. Now,

if Donna Aught not got much of Carla, uh, sometimes he implic a way that

that really not a chance for the athlete. But it was, it had to see a carla, not there

didn't come, she was made to make to many of many victories,

and to make a revent she, she has to and to show that really is apt to

to conquer this centuron. With the point of the part of the question, but we know that never the

part of the part of the thing is the question of the time to make a minute, and you will make that sure

you put in a dispute of a with this experience, with this certain that you never have because you

said, you know, it's the FCC and will do do what you will be that you're

going to this you're a process to win this you are the next to internal. No, with certain. It's a

certain that I have in mind, obviously, the plans of the F.C. mud are, I'm a functionary, I'm just, I'm back the head, and I'm no problem

no, but winning, I, in a way, extremely expressive, there, I, I'll have to give a my record, I'm

to say that I'm going to say, I'm going to be the next. Focco, not, of this my next future, I

need, I need to be going to the end of the derot, so she, she's, are,

are, you're going to then I think this will make the lot more impugent, but I'm sure

this is the chance of the title, I'm sure that it's not, the UFC, he's very moved on the business

and in the last years, the time, the lot of the different, the disputed this centurion, so many times,

the person who may have done a foyer to fill out of someone to say more, someone who probably

maybe you ream against this maria, you're trying to the front of the

problem of the job, even in silence, or even in silence, and the rea de fruits, know me, Miam? With that's

a way, my trainer, Marciumal that we, we're always always our focus, the principal,

is train, is evolve, and to show all this into the octogna. If you want to do the octagon

before the last of a lot, this for me no, not have interest, not have,

not have, no, the value, in the very, for me, what it is to

show into octagon, and that that's that's, that and against all,

I could do this, I'm going to talk about, I'm able to talk about, and pretend I'm going to continue

in this same rhythm, because this is my personality, is my style as a little a player,

and I want to be a champion this way without me to me to be to,

for the media in general, that I know, that I'm going to continue

to the same showing just there in the October. At times it's not the

question Trash Talk, too, because, for example, you have a story very good, but many people don't know, you, did part of the Contender, you've got some some, some,

some, some, some, you know, not, you know, this other side, the other side, the side of your personal, your family, but you know, but you

think, maybe, if you're probably, that's, you're, that in, you're going to, you're saying, but, but think in, you're

about, but, people know, that, you know, not just, the, you're, guarantee the tire-shot, also in the mesh, can change,

how much money you will get to get you get to be more, you know, so you can't also, you think, to try to be able more

in this, in this sense, too. This is something, but this is going to happen when I get the

centuron. Then, I will be able to get the signet to all, I'm,

I'm going, I'm, I'm the person who merceal this centuron. I'm there,

I think, the, the things will move, I, with, I'll have to do different different other

types of work. Who can't have a thing to say, and when I conquest to

him, with sure I'm going to go enche the peat to say the whole my time, I,

many times, sometimes happens things that we'd have a lot of people, and say to all the

world, the real, the thing really did to get to make, every detail of evolution,

each victory, that for us, we're in this moment, as a firmamentas, strategies of a year, we don't expose this at all the moment.

We don't expose our training because are our tools that we're going to use there in the against the

adversary. So, conquisting the centuron, I will continue open a little the

game, not to not to tell all the secrets, but to, tell a

how I feel formed, of reality, of how we passed each the obstacle

to get to get a story. What do you have got in gasgated and you have a

thought to the world? Look, there's much a lot, much thing,

in the way, in the battle, you know, every the lot of

we've many times, we've won't these things, you know,

seeing, what the adversary was doing what the other , This,

it us more more energy to wince each other in the detail and the intelligence. But what is

exactly, this I can't tell you. What you're talking about is a situation of your life against Amanda

Rivas, that was a Amanda had much hype in over her, and she said, ah,

that was a lot that was like, she would be a lot that would be a bad,

but she's judo, Jujits, if you, the striker, is an example of a situation

that's that's what's saying? It's one of the examples. With

this was a good very very that's what the

what was that really really and he did the

there other the majority no in the many all

there's a more of a of a just we can't

see that I think that that does much that

does you have obviously after you from the since you

you said you don't you've never a lot easy, since the

first the first but you're in general as a very, he's not

embarked in your in to put in you as a possible champion

of the other not the way, the other people of the

people of the people of other divisions. I'm sure, I'm

I'm offender some or not but who can't really

really really really really really really you can see

and can't you I'm having, I'm I'm taking from the initial of my first last year in

the first look and she gets in the public, is the public that I'd want to get to be, because I

know the public, it's with my luts, as I said, not it's, not with what I know,

I'm not with the lot of the lot, know, that I have this potential there to get to

there, and that's not some performance and victories in the octagon that make you get to get to the public in general

the fan of the fight being when you're looking because you have a stil mannir, you go to do that you know

but you know for example stories of superation stories of stories of life are stories that can't get the world

and get to the great public that not the public that's in the channel combat that I

see all the all the time of the night and a story very good that you just did

a matter one way about my my fight conversing with you with your his brother,

that he has been with a deficiency, of spina bifta, not that he was born, and even as he continued the transition of the family,

that's your father, he goes to sport, of you, and he still also doing this as a player, also,

what was the importance of this this, this, this, the life, both in the area

sportive, to be to be able to be able to be this world, too, we're,

we always, we've always we've never that, a person with a person with a deficiency physical,

it's different of who see from the world, who can be with the eyes more with a heart and with a

sentiment and story beautiful and so, but I always said, my brother Robert he initiated, he's not-

he's not-nading I think 15 years that he is, that he is a athlete of nata-o-lamp

and what I always say in relation to he, that he me made see

that's possible live of sport today. He's in San Paul,

so Zosino and he an atletta Paralimpic he's champion world so he

he made to live to live to before of this many opportunities

I don't me in certain sports that I always I always I did

all I'd do everything I did football volleyball handball

so when I when I started when I I perceived that it was possible. It was possible to live of sport and be

a professional of high-rendement, as soon as he's a story that I like to make my and my brother. And a detail

and a great that when we, when we, when we were the menors, he was fanatic for the other,

he was, yeah, so he's never, yeah, I'm, and I'm, this video,

look, look, Baz Rutin, look, the K-1, look, the Pride, and I

looked, like, like, cool, legal, legal, but not that's

that's doing that that's that way, I'm okay, I'm don't d'clock

because I don't have much a bit with the I'm my world was another

old and then and now he was one of a major event of the

MMA of the things that he came me to tell stories

of past that now I have really the question of GSP

for example the bastions the work in the and I, gosh,

things that I pass today, he will be to be to now, he'll come to be a lot of the he's not really

he's a little when, when the cause a lot he accompanies or not, he'll find out he'd

come to my message oh, this is, oh, this is this man, he's a he does a he try to

do a stifference on the day of him when he when he when he's when a lot

when he made with the words certain of motivation, to you to let's

a athlete I'm, in the case he's a message saying, Maria, you're

all the master, you're just to do the master, you are the team, it's the

best, the best some the words that he can say. He's he's

a technique or not, not, not is necessary because I have a trainer

that is intelligent and always super, all the laws of, all the questions there's

technical, tactic, physical, so he makes always those words of that I'm done, and that I

go to look and I'm that you know, and the form that you know, I've been

a form of you just, I've been with him, I've been with him and I'm a businessman,

and said that you are formed in design graphic, and and I were in

a graphic and how how you came you did a from a graphic for an academy

of the luther. So, as I always was involved with sport, the my infancy, my youthitude

entire, I was always compete, I was a lot I was a lot, I had a time, I'd compete in

just a sport's but I was I'd love, I'd love, to compete, and I passed a tempem then I,

came to Florianopolis, I'm started in other areas, I waskeed a faculty, me formed in design graphic,

I started to work in the area, and I saw that not was legal. I had that was a lot, I, I, I, I, I, I, I'm for this life, to do something different. Something that's, so, the, of my, of, the physical, as my mental.

I always, always, always, always. Always, I used, the meninas who were, to, do a sport, that were, that were the top, so, then, I, I, did, I, I, I, I decided, I need, I, I need to do something, to, look at a academy. In the infancy

did Judo, I never told this for nobody, but I did this for a lot of the whole, I'm going to be able

to be there. So it's a background, and I got a base in, it's been a little bit of I did box, but it was

just for a for a a breakadier and I sat down in my computer, the day entire,

I thought, I need to do something my life, I was aced people, I never I never

Kilo. I was a little fofa. Then I decided, it was where I did it,

I'm going to an academy of Muay Thai because I wanted to make the hand, not just a

arm, and I found the Academy Thai, Brazil, Floridaipa. It was where I went to

care in the courage, I came there, I'm my trainer, I, I went to

my time, I'm looked, and I said, oh, I'm going to do this, I'm

I'm did a A week, it was the worst days of my life, look, I'm sorry,

soffree, I'm, I'm going to get to be able to start to get to the sedentaryism, that I

was just just working, but I started to a way that I saw, I was playing weight, I

was getting well, I'm in three months, in a maximum there, the most, the maximum,

he saw, he saw, he knew that he was a different, he said, Marina, you

do, do you, do you, It was, so, it was spontaneous, it was natural. It was where he started to me more attention,

me called to train in the orator of the athletes, I went. In three months, I did a first fight of Muay Thai Amador,

internal of the academy, no, in the reality, it was a month that I did this month. In three months, I did my

first lute mother of really. It was just the initial, and where I don't know, Naty Brazil

Floriva with my trainer, my coach Marce and Alco. You were you said that you did you do you, do you do five sports

at the same time how is you came to be a marina foeuf working in a graphic was this move to Florida

that was that was all the sports so all the sports I practiced was at the 18 18, 19 20

I came to Floranops I had 25 so there a long time there and with 25 years

coming in Florianopas I just I just went to train it. No, no, I'm going to

New York, I'm going to the year, and I'm going to the 25, and it was in 2013. So,

to Florida, to get to 2006 to 2013, which was where I started to train, there was a

long period there, that I really really didn't not much attention for this, not was

just, I'd, I'd, I'd, and I'd see, and I'm just went

to do my-tai in 2013, when I did the first hour of Moitai. The muddance to Florida was for the case of your brother of his. Yes.

We're living in Bajer, right? Rio Grande Su. And, in I was living in Pelot's, doing a course for a pass in a vestibular. And my my mom me called, said, marina, we're thinking to go to Florida if you want. I'm going to, I'm going to decide in the hour, because, you know, must have much of to be

studying, yeah? So, I'd came to Florida O'Brienop to to have opportunities better for the sport, for my him, where he was where he he was where he he went to the

natation and he continue to still a adult being a world. The design graphic was

a thing that you just need to put a need to go to this here, I

always I always I always I always I did design so I have a eye

a good good good good ghost for art and it was the course

that me was a course that me called an question of I've done

I'm years doing vestibular, but not did certain. Not there, not do, if you're done for vestibular,

it's a thing for a little. Not it's not. I, I've heard that you even paid the your mentality

in the academy, making art to the academy. Yes, exactly. I initiated, paying my mentality

normal in the academy. Then my trainer, Mark, Morg, he said, ah,

he asked, what I, what I did, you said, you don't want to do some things to

for the team and I do what I'm going to I'm going to I'm going to my solidarity of you

and you do you do this and I'm doing this I'm doing the general I'm doing the

media social and I'm doing the campaigns of the event of the campaignato internal

that we we did different events in Florianopolis not so the tournament internal

the tournament open to other other states were various events circuits

so I I've I was all this part of logistic, the marketing, of the, of every event that we, that we, that we're not-a-addisive, in octagon.

So, this was, it was a period very legal that I participated with my team, and where my trainer me gave this opportunity, to participate at the structure of the event,

where I, not carried the octagon in but I participated, I'd participate, and I'd, doing other things. Not only

this, we always a question of the question to know how arbitrar an event, so I've

abitra in our academy. The academy, I mean, I mean, I'm a façap

preta, not just for able to learn a white tae. For to know the environment

of the lot, from the event, from how to make a man to a lot,

and how or to casar, a lot, or how arbitrar a lot, so I'm a façapraeta, I'm a façadea complete for

all this, for know, and to bevency everything I did, everything I've experienced, all you

did this side of an artist, of designer, or you don't mess more in these things? Look,

I don't have time, it's, it's, it's, come in one or other to say,

ah, you can't do some I, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm,

I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, me, I'm time, I'm like five minutes on the computer,

I do you know the cost, it's a dog the hand, so this part I pass. But, obviously, the

my side artistic, the my eye clinic, I'm always in the old, I'm, I'm, like,

I'm very social with very care, I'm a person, I'm going to my Instagram, for example,

so I do I'm always, everything, all the way that I go, I go through that's, that's,

allianed, the things are aligned, and the my colleagues, sometimes me paltit, Marina, this is okay, it's okay, I'm going to,

I'm going, okay, I'm going, do you know, not it's a new, it's a new, because it's, not collo. So I still have this, this

side, there's, the art. And what the, Maria Rodriguez, designer, found the

poster in the F.C. contra the Michelle Watterson and the MacKens. The F. He does the

posts, some are many, some are many in the little in the local, the person of the

person the other, what the marina designer has to say about these posters? Oh, the first poster that was against Michelle Waterson, I don't go commenter because the luta was in 12 days, is it's explained, no problem

any, no, it was the best, okay, pass-o. But the poster against McKinsey, D.R., I actually, I thought, irate, I thought sensational. For me, it's the best poster of all, of all.

Sure, I'm on it. But I thought I actually very, very legal. No, there's no no defect

to put in this poster, that I have the three here, it's all over my page, I've got put

in the academy and I'm anxious to have more with my face. So I'm going to do you go to

do this postor, you will make a postter and will me, me, you can't

you know, I can't make you to you're just you're going to be made and you're not, I said,

it's five minutes on the computer and does it and do it has to be a

a minimum one hour So I'll I'll suggest I'll go to so I'm for them to them to get

a post made a so they're not sure who they're not see, who they convince but they're

a stentoran but you know a camp more long there to take a week five minutes per day yeah

I think of I think of it's just but I think we know that we know that we know that's like

that's not the water not a manned a marina a doctor you know, poor, is a rich,

it's a life easy, you know, but we know, but we know we're not easy, being a lot of

the UFC, and not it is a lot of the time, along of these years, in the career,

all the time, you got to question to live professionally of the sport was the best of you know,

you got to the sport, did much, but living the sport, not the thing

than the time did you get to, in some moment, question to if this

was the ideal for you? Well, to say the reality, no, because when I

started to train to a athlete even, I think I did I think I think I think

I'm a two I'm I'm I'm going so the flow of the plan

that the trainer was tra Saut that I didn't think I never to think

he said Marina we're here here, we're we're going to

get the people when I first professionally in MMA he made

a list of the best of Brazil and we went kind of ca sando

one to one because in the fund he would be that he would be

so so this thought for me never passed there was there

has been my time we're there we're not going we're

not I'm I'm there was difficult to get

it's so he he's what I'm doing I'm doing the I'm

and now we don't have our opportunity, what's going to be going to be the but he never never made transparece this to

me, he always me left in the with the moral with the moral in the same,

and always training, always training when I did the last last time in Brazil was in the Thunder Fight

I I looked on the day 12 of December and the 22 of December

the same I was I puted on the under the

last time before the last of the great that I feel to be able to do that

December to August that I looked in it was a period long there was a

sure he had done that it was it was in April more or that confirmed my

lot of my contender so I think I never never never

I never never I just I just like it like it's

the following the planning the following the my trainer is

it is this is this it's it's it's it's don't that this is a new objective.

A we always kept in activity because I knew that the opportunity to get to get, and we showed. And we're trying to look to

back to see everything you and imagine that you can terminate 22 with a cintron on the page of the house?

It's something I don't think at least I'm I say to my trainer he, look, oh, Marina, look everything we've done,

look at all the we're getting and where we're where we're about, I'm it's it's a

really it's a something I don't think so I'm very I'm very I'm really I'm doing what I

need to do I'm going to I'm going to but it is a story that was well made worked

been a not a doacation not not was a no my and my my trainer was a

one of my training for so for that this so it was let's it was a

we're a period short of 2015 that I I've trained in MMA professional until today

it's a little time in comparison to the great athletes that are in the top but it was it was a

job fantastic that we don't think it because it's not not terminate we need to continue to to get

the next the next is the shamanananan that's coming to the battle to Carla

Sparta but before it was in felerereror many people got got many people but got

got to the general Rio, Kovalevich, a guy of good of the octagon. What do you

think she about a other? How do you do you do? It's a man,

it's a whole in all the little of all the and it. Not there

that that power to final a lot. Pell almost

not not got the with the athletes that she she got

the she is a lot a lot d' the Chinese are

d' in general I think I think it will be a

a lot interesting. If she it's a way to try in play, I always say,

if she she was with much want to try in it's what I like I like it

is what I want to be more, I can show much more the abilities in the

person, when the person want to not not be going to and

not fuging of the lot. And it that thing, like we always

in all the people want to me put to the I believe that

they're just doing account that not will be so easy this way. And I know that my

Jiu-Jitsu today, today I can say that my Jiu-Git's let's say,

50% 50, with offensive and defensive. You've have been defensive, okay. But now

he's now, he's more more offensive. So, that I can't

show a little in the Lutta Marquence that was for a little

that I don't I don't continue finalize her, but it's a guarded this finalization

for a problem. You think that's the future? Or do you think you get in

better? I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, two, options,

I think, I'm, I think, my man can enter, in a contra-gol

very encahap, or, some, a finalization, because if my mom enter,

and she really, she, the, the, the, the, the,

the, the, the person, the , is perigoso, with a

risk, with this fight in this in the dispute, the titherto, the titherto the tithertochot, when, I think, no,

there's no other option. I have a certain no way, she has to do more a lot. She's with a Zang, to decide who can be a possible a possible,

the next, a defiant, but it's going to be a rolanded there, that's not not doing mention and

to return, but I have certain that I have been saying a Yann, in a way, very expressive even,

the way that I want, will be a centurion, this, yes, you would be the

plan B, the reserve, let me, the next ship the trunk, You don't mark the data even, we don't know when it's going to

happen to happen to happen in March let's make that for the middle of the year and so, you'd be a good idea

to be over-avis Look at a point out of the I'm in preparation for the fight against I'm winning this

I'll go back to me a preparation will be for example a sparring well,

I'm very I'm going to try to a minimum maximum one a week that I'm

going to be even in a time Then I just will go back to academy and continue to

my camp then it's the camp of the centuron so I'm going to be waiting the signuron

in a year we don't not would not want to do you know, at least we can't

give in a excellent lute that's for three or five rounds but for for the centuron

we're going be very prepared in the long in this lute this lot will be in

the last three rounds the those last two were one This is it a your favor or you think it would be the favor of her way

to make a form to make a anti-joke, maybe? Look, in the reality, I always

trained for five rounds, so when came these five rounds in these two last last

the last few we just did the work that we always did in all the

I think that I think three rounds I think will be more more interesting

for, let's say like to have been less disgust in the lute, I will able to accelerate the first in the first,

in the second round, not I'm need to put a strategy, so long for five rounds, because five rounds we have always

have always have always have been more want to more agressivity in any round. And so for

to we think you think you think you will be the other last time when you

go to dispute the centuron? You think that in Mayunas depends with success

or you think that Carl Sparza gain of her one way? Seriously, this is

a lot that can do one and it's a lot of because they're a job very,

really a game of one is completely different of the other. If one

if one if one if one is better in the distance and the other

she can also, I don't have preference sincerely I don't have

a opportunity to the Citron because I see that against Carl

Sparsa will be a revanch. So, it's a lot that will be a lot of attention.

This really is one of the things that I want, and I always said that I would want to

make a hand with a car, and it's not. And with a rose, we have

a game very similar, she is very precise, she is very precise, and I think when

I go to be going to try to be going to be able to let's

more more prepared than this. So I think it are that I have certain that the public

is anxious to to assist me. With the truth are really great marina, thank you very for the attention for your time.

The success in this rata final is of preparation for the fight for the future and that comes a centuron in a second

thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Travolving doro for to get this victory and get there. A we can

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