MMA Fighting - Trocação Franca | Pantoja debate UFC Rio, Cigano comenta Popó x Bambam e MMA sem luva

Episode Date: February 28, 2024

Alexandre Pantoja não sabe quem estará do outro lado do octógono, mas bate o pé que deseja defender o cinturão do UFC no Rio de Janeiro, em maio. Ao podcast, o campeão peso-mosca analisou a categoria e citou possíveis rivais, além de rebater os “casuais” que criticam um possível esvaziamento do card. Junior Cigano volta ao podcast para falar de sua luta no MMA sem luva e o atropelo de Acelino Popó sobre Kleber Bambam, e Vitor Petrino comenta seu desafio contra Tyson Pedro sábado, no UFC. O melhor do MMA brasileiro no Trocação Franca, toda semana, com o jornalista Guilherme Cruz e convidados. Alexandre Pantoja doesn’t know who will be standing across the octagon, but he wants to be part of UFC 301 in Rio de Janeiro. The flyweight champion names possible contenders and fires back at “casuals” who criticize the prospect of him headlining the show. Junior dos Santos returns to the podcast to discuss his upcoming bareknuckle MMA bout with Alan Belcher, plus Francis Ngannou boxing Anthony Joshua and maybe returning to MMA to fight Renan Ferreira. Vitor Petrino stops by to talk his Saturday’s UFC Vegas 87 clash with Tyson Pedro. Listen to Trocação Franca with Guilherme Cruz every week to hear from the biggest names on the hottest topics in the Brazilian combat sports world. Follow Guilherme Cruz: @Guicruzzz Subscribe to MMA Fighting Check out our full video catalog Like MMA Fighting on Facebook Follow on Twitter Read More: http://www.mmafighting.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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in command of the podcast, Trocaation Franca, and representing the MMA Fighting in Brazil, Guillermo! Cruz. Hello, lo, lo, amigued,

on centeasem, 29, the podcast, Trocaceau, The podcast, Franca, your house, subemmae,

and I'ma Ruechus correspondent of American, M.M.A. in Brazil, and I'm in this week,

the President of F.C., who has much to say, the podcast last I talked about a new Tosvenando

Cautio Bohalio about the scenario nebulos that was ronding the FC Riu after the Alaks Poatan

against Jemalalaliel in F. 3. And now we receive a man that much probably will leader the card of the city

Moravilleuio on the 4th of May the podcast has also in interviews with Juno Cigano and Victor Petrino who lot on Saturday on Game Bread

and in UFC respectively but the first interview is with the first last of the line we have we have Alexander

and Pontos champion the most of the FC that has been back to return to Mexico where we're

there was being the possible possible an American welcome the podcast how is are going to be

like that's a bit how it's the how it's the he's the he's the man you're as you can't be you're

I'm looking I'm a little my next year I'm out of my apartment so I'm put him to get him to

get a money and then yeah now in Mexico there I'm looking the

the last the first yeah I'm I'm the I'm the I don't know I don't know

what the position of the RID there in the FC but for me he is the UFC,

it's part. Not just as he, as a guy, Glearmes, I'm a man,

I'm always I'm always, I'm always, I'm always, and this guy that's the guy that's I'm in front

with the FECC, I like, I like, I'm, I like, I see, the machine

general, the UFC maintain all the most the same professionals, almost

the time the time so, he was, a guy that was a guy that

was, he's a other part there, with the , with the athletes, acessory, a thing,

so, and then, the Rydd me called, I was in the first-in- I'm in a great,

and I'm like, I'm in the front, no, I'm to review the really, and what I saw,

was a rovel wanting to get much, get much more than the Moraena there, maybe the

moreena was a man new, and there's this stralato, maybe I think,

to do this, and I'm all this, and you're a arena little, a arena a little

I came admired with an arena, the time I'm in the public, very cold and what I

see was that I'm a little more about the public was a part of a matter but the

but the role of going to gain that night I saw he looking the morando back back

right I don't see if you see you but I know I know I'm

that he marked the first round and it was very redem so I'm

I'm I was even talking, I was there Diego Linu and Charles we, we're just the time,

I'm going to it's a little, I know it also, and even as even he's being with this

foot after he after he's in a mattoe, he continued chutting so,

so the man with a manchus was, it was, it was, it was, he was going to

go, gave a popzino on a carcannia and you see that happened some, maybe have done a

dislocatine like, that's always do it but it but he's very

focused, he was in the first round but in the second, the guy just over he was there

last year, he was like really mannour manh, everything, everything was, but when when it was

you actually that the Roeval had been seen, you point to Morino, what was what was

what was what you did like, it was because we did the lot, but I'm a guy

and see the person, I'm looking to look to all over what I I saw, maybe a

one, you know, what I have seen, you know, for Roeval, but even that I

not had been, uh, I'm trying a one, whatever I'm not, I'm not, I'm a

impression that the rival of the fact gained a lot, me assured, me, he said,

he did a play a big over, I think he did a problem, everyone in arena sent you this

that the Bruce Subbhry said, Brandon, then he said the name of Royval but so

all the man was right He would say, he would be a great but it was very interesting but he's

a total the more he didn't he said it's a oxyde all the all the

thing it's a I have so I have a good to talk a good to deal with

all this he he had been a last he did a impate with

a carov a lot that he went to where I went

to know he went he's he's man a aubal

a He He perished more for me than the more than the not that he

didn't have a period not that for me for me for a one four a one I don't

see even three to two to him the rival also I've seen a lot to me

five a zero I've I'm five five five zero could be

maybe one there because the jury are well we don't know

we know what happens we know and then I'm so

I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm like Apollo Creed

I'll I'll I'll agree the opportunity for a for a guy that comes to any event

or other event the chance to look for or the UFC also, but that's my idea, I launched

so, I thought, I thought, and I'm a chance opportunity for a person who nobody

knows, it's a thing, it's a thing, and I think, it would be more

difficult to be to be to be something to be or the guys

of the front there. I'm I, as a lotator, I see that who who's been in a class, have been more, there's more,

there's more, than who can't be there, I'm, I'm expon, talking about, I'm saying, I'm a lot of,

I'm a lot of, you know, a lot of, you know, but I think to be able to play with this too,

too, you do you do a disanimated to have to roo'clock because, poor, no, that you got,

you got, you got a, one, one and a year, one and a year, and then, he, he,

he, got, he, He's up to move to the ladder to fight it in two months. He's just going to be able to find out now in FCRI and so if this is a man who is the palavra to the UFC? Because he had this plan, that's the idea. You're to send him to the Mexico with this intuit. But I think the Wrenno.

But I think he's going to beckoned not the Breano-Royne. Everyone would have with this, no, no, no, no, no. No, no. Impression. Impressant. The, man,

so, I'm, like I said, I did a lot much good with Royval, you know. I'm not intimately to think I won't think I won't

five rounds, he's he said to go out and I'm trying the lot, I'm trying maybe I'm

could have been out of a man, but it's more easy to go back to go I'm a

champion, I'm a conservative, I'm a lot of a lot of my lot of

my intention I'm a loter totally different today but but that

that lot was much emotion I don't I don't just to be in the young who was

the little bit of the centuron the first or do you but I'm a man a lot of

a lot of a lot of maybe more more than more than you know so that this pressure

that was in the same of me me, I'm because nothing external me

do the pressure so I myself can be pressonar yeah I

I think I think that I think that maybe that maybe could be and get

get a a breno morano who no, for me just not no,

no, he's not he has to move some things but he's so much I'm a lot

I'm at point that was all this stralato that I try to me keep

never but or of my form but but I'm I'm what I'm

what I'm there's there's there's there a lot a loter a

one Rassel that's he's the time the time the guy is a a good

lotador, be a man, and there's a samurai, yeah, the other, the,

the, the lot of the lot of us are in the way, in the other, no, no,

no, no, a lot of a lot of a lot of, we're going to a lot, to have a

new country, it's a thing, that I want to I want to I'm, so I'm

there, so I'm some marries, too know. And you get me I'm a man,

don't know, you disanim, you disanima, have to have to have to so recently. So,

so, so, it's, to finish, so, for me, a lot of difficult than the moreno,

uh, it's more difficult a lot, it's a lot of a lot of a lot, it's a lot, it's a

so what I did seem to be fast, and he goes to go to the Mexico and do the porrada, so the people,

I think now are people, I think, I'm, I think, I'm, I think,

I I did a lot with a moreno, I gained, nitidantly the more than I, and then I went to go to the world, I did it seem to becky, I don't want to be,

the more than, so the point I don't know, the point I don't know, the point I'm not, boy, I'm in my auto, but it's a locura because the people

don't understand that the guy is pesomosh, but, it's the, it's the, my category, no what I'm,

the guy, the guy, the man is, the guy, the guy, it's merrier, a lot, a lot,

a lot, a lot, I can I can compare a manel cap with a francis ingano of the heavyweight

which is a a man who he's really like he looks you know my man man for me is one of the lot of the

lot of the category with the car doesn't because it's great for carame I'm

I'm gonna in the FCC in the academy of F.C. in the Academy of P.I. I'm caraca

it's like the 80 Kille I said I said with him I said with him but not it

Not is something that I'm talking about the coach. I said, you know, he said, no, no, I'm with 70. I said, I'm talking completely. He said,

I never batty 70, I think, in my life, I think, in my life, and as, and as, I'm a lot of

a lot of, not, very level, for the category. And then, I go, the Sehruu, too,

I'm, I think, so Seh Rood desss, this, to get a, he'd, maybe,

but I think would be difficult for Moreen too, for Moreno, maybe, This Lut,

I think many people would have that the Manel Kapp was to confront the Matthews

Nucolol, that was to be a first of the end of the you'd be a revans, you'd be

a manned, but at the same time a different, you've got a role, you've got to all the

lot of the categories, I'm gonna I'm really to think I'm really people, it's what I'm

what I'm gonna win a manelkap Lutator Dool-Dususus he knocked after he he looked with me he knocked outed

three guys in the first round I'm playing you're talking you're gonna you're gonna have to do credit to

these guys him Rekarra another other another he made a carrieffes a car was like a

boom, deitou the guy and boom deitou and he knowtoe yeah he

oh Devesson Figueereo Devis Figueered is sinister you know you're gonna I think the people

think the real value to the part independent of the person or not we do we do

a we do a we do And so good Even better than more than heavy weight

Cary, many of the other other than a lot of strange, if it's over the second round,

you know, so the guys don't have more guys. Of course, because I train in America

Top Team just has been caskud there, I'm going to go to my academy and see

the peser training, like here in America Top Team, I never vibra. I never

the guys train them much and are very uned so that is a part of

a little difficult in the heavyweight in what is the situation, then? Passed some

days of the FCMESP, have some definition, say it's going to be really, you go to

go ahead, you and the how are you these conversations? So, the roival saw you mancando,

then I'm going to do what, three months for a guy, this three months being

legal, wrote a lot, got the gillow to carama, and it maybe even can't do it,

but I think it I don't see if it roll because because the FCC not me

puttow much in the front I and he didn't put a microphone no say what it's not not even

let's go go on go on it's it's it's a long time it's

it's it was it was it was it could could could could be

but but it but it didn't until I'm in the final

the Spanish Spanish I wanted with but in the carer

we went to would be complicated. A don't lotata, 20,000 people, I'm trying to push in the gancho of the public,

my man, impressive. So, I'm impressive. I'm so, I'm adorated for the moment I came to the moment that I

went to go at all the moment. And, and it's a, it's a manerer because, the people

pass a question a little more in my story, and so they're and the people, and the

people who are, and the people much a people very hard very agarid

too. And so a people a family also, so I think this roland a connection

just momentan like in a moment that I came, until the moment that I went away a

a receptivity very strong very much respect to allos with me and I got I

I gained fan for car there so I got a fan I got a respect

of the guys and more for me brother I think if I if I

if I were some if I was a line of touchdown, I never would ever I'd like to know, I'd like,

super positive, I'd have a lot with the kids too, so it was very good to go to Mexico for me.

This experience that you had been in Mexico, to see, how is the reception to Brando Moreno?

And how was the performance of this reception that you think maybe maybe it maybe it

might be a sign of attention, you're saying, you're not a person, you're a

slumbered, but at least, you're not in the FCRio, everyone's your favor, you enter as a champion, at least let this emotion to take account of you. Start in Mexico, and see,

this happened with him, I was going to go, I'm going to go, but it's going to be able to... It's important to learn with another, yeah?

It's important to learn with other because then you don't need to get to know, but, I've done a ral of the

Cable, I've done much more in my area, very in my city, man, this, me

know a nostalgia so good a nostalgia so a lot lot oh, I will you say, a million people in a

space for say, I, say, that's, maybe, and, man,

I've got to Moitah, I've done MMI, I've got to Jiu-Gitzo, everything there's,

and, car, always, it's a thing, so, never a word, never,

never, never, but I mean, imagine, now, imagine, now,

for 20, people. I'm a artist I'm, I always, I love to say this parada, too. I'm a artist, car, so it's a, can, it's a moment, but it's also, look at

how I, you know, I'm going to be that's, then, you know, you, you know, it's, you know, so I'm, you know, so I'm a lot

strong, you know, maybe, I think it's, I'm a mental, to be a tranquil in the hours, I've been, pretty, I've, I've, I'm,

and in the academy perg, I'm, you know, I'm gonna, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm,

today in the academy. He gave a porrida to train with a Keaela, with Akela really, with a sinister. She'll be, right? But, but... But, you know,

Reval, if he not should be up for E.C. Rieb, you want to be able to do do you, the desire? Yeah, the time what I said, that, you know, that botte

some, some guy a, but also, but also, there's a Mokkev, you, who's coming

there, if the guy if the guy if the summer that's now I think

it's a time, although he he's he's not he's training in America of Top Team

a guy a big for category I believe that makes a total sense he's winning

well Alex Peres maybe Alex Peres winning not he'd not

so much he there, there's there's there there's one more

no more the man with the with the with the fire and the of

Mocayef also let see who came of two deros for two

the Brazilians who he's, he's, he's, he's been for Dave, let me

see what what happens. You know, you came to do you did he did that he was a

time, he's a man, he's a man, a man, a man, a man,

he's, he got to to learn, know, but there's another line of the

thing, than me, you know, but it's very shulu, because he also was created in London

and all right. So he's not that he's a realist, legitimate, no. But it's a guy who, there's all the culture of them and all right. But it's a guy a little talentoso,

man. He's a man. He's a new and new and want to learn. So there's a lot more difficult than the Brno Reval?

It would be a lot very different, yeah? Brano Reval long, he likes to look to a Jiu-Gi-V, solid, like,

that's that crap very pesable a very a very a very a lot, a

kind of a role, I'm a super functional and it's a job very difficult

to do it's a a job that has to have been to have been a that I

know I'm doing that I'm also, I think the mocker has much more

more breaches in the game than a rival of the Vida who knows to

use a your more more more than the box I think would

a job more of grappling that I'm super comfortable to do you too much more to wincer, because then you

will be able to because if he he pays for Peres, Roeval or Roeval or, so you're have to be to get to

get to get to get a general, no, I don't try to anyone that's my friend,

I'm not my friend many times you talk to who's for who Morano or Roeval, no,

never I never I'm never I'm don't know, I'm, who can gain is the better, because it's,

I don't know, like, the, the, the torser, it's a very complicated, you know,

I'm going to see, in a part of a thing, you're, you're talking to someone,

is that person, the universe of that person that's a very, I don't know,

I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I'm going to, so, I'm always my friend, you know,

I'm, I'm, there, who there people who people came to the F. F.C.

Contracta Rour and Gush to have a new to you. So, he's the guy who

came to with you. I'm batte every day. He's got to not a

fuck. He's really, Rovec. He's really, I'm going to you know, the guys

I've my life in all the life, I am he. I'm really great, very gratat,

very, I have a great, so great that would be very to be really

to be I know, I like very because he he helped not only my family,

so I'm, because I mean, he helped me to be the better, so he's, so I'm,

so I'm, so, so, so, so, so, so he, for me,

a guy, really a manor, so, I have a good in the question, much in

the caration for him, and it would be a part to me, you know,

I'm going to be to say, but if he is trying, I think it's it's just a little, I'll tell you to say, I'm a word. But if it's a

thing he busker for him, I'm going to concordar I'm going to be able to FECC, but he's to be a man, he's

too, you know, he's like me. But he's to gala there's a gala in, no, no, no,

he's hard, but he's front of any he's, he's front of the, he's this guy is very sinister,

He enfronted. Man, he He confronted the champion that was the GP there was, he got the GP there, he got the Pellas, again in the final. The Pettmix.

Yeah, this is a man, this guy is enormous. Excellent, he's great for the category. Imagine, what today is a pecan until for a pompezo moscow.

Because he peasant more than what I I peasant, you know, even, even, you know, what today is impressionant, he is a guy,

he is a guy a man, he's a guy to get a person to work to get if Citrus, he's going to

a new New a general. And it's important, like I know, I have quite certain that I

will look at that makes total sense I'm not doing this card, I need to a

confirmation to make a chava, right that you have a date, or something, while I

don't have an an adversary, an assorture, a, it's difficult, it's difficult you're difficult,

you know, But if me gave a name, the Chavez will give a muddard but it

really is really not uncertain everything I'm going to a lot of a lot of a lot of

a category to make a lot of I'm really that the two do you do a

show very a show there were a lot of a market a area completely

lot of I'm I'm sure I'm I'm sure and it's the UFC,

it's people were much people are the Chars of Bromco sent on the UFC 300 against the Chalukian

so all the people you're going to have to be pervue, there's a dispute citural and the people are, and the point,

but it's just it was a centuron for FCC 300 the Kono Nassinor Nassinor? Huh? The Kono

Nassinor Nassin'n Yeah, I think he'll hear the Kono probably maybe maybe

there, there there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there,

not have the Poitano in the F.C. Rueh, not have a carousal, I'm going to tell you a thing.

It's what I was talking those the adversaries that I looked, you know, they're

people, super gabbaritats. The person, the Brazilian in the is, you, not, it's,

I think, it's not the fact, the way, the Anderson, Sylva is much more

respected here that in Brazil, and it's impressive, man, it's a thing,

it's a man, it's, I don't if it because the Globo, the Red, the Redo, the road,

because the pasts in the Redo, it happens that the Brazil oboe des. But it's very difficult to get the barrier, although we have, uh,

Anderson, Silva, the Jose Aldo, but is what I say, these guys are much more respected here, that's a, here in Brazil.

Then, he's a part of the, you know, know, I don't know what, of America, poe, it's there,

it's right, I'm just there, I'm just like, all the way, nobody, didn't, you know, you know,

you know, the, you know, you know, for we need, you see the, then you see

the Tupuria, was a champion was to the Real Madrid, Seville, got an Austin Martin,

and you're going to you know, and the we're in a foda, but it's fosda,

but it's very complicated, it's a moon, but, and I'll put to America

also, the Moican says that for that you know, you get here, you say from the

backabund, and the guy says, oh, you're special Abilat,

You have to say to English. You have abilities special. You have a question of

a good that nobody can't be in the world. You can't be in a part of the and it's a

part of a part of a problem so it's a lot of this way, you know, you just

see different. You just see a respect different. That you not have in Brazil,

you know, being an icon of Brazil, but it's very difficult, you know, it's a

part of, it's a a part of, it's a thing, I don't want to me put in this,

in this, this prattirea because I go to be to be a bad, so I respect much,

but I'm the world, but I'm the top, in this top malucco, rank of the UFC,

I'm the first fow of the world, of the world, I'm, and in all the

other, in my category, I'm sub- between millions of people, I'm

so what, I'm the but, you know, nobody can't be the category, batte the

not, you're not, you're not, you're in Brazil, it's not not quite the

barrier to see that way, you know, I think of the ban-a- to get to be a good,

not, I'm not, not, not, not, because, you know, I'm trying, until I'm

doing the money, but, yeah, because the Brazil, not real value for the

guy, if it was he looked, uh, the other way, but the entertainment

is valid, I'm, I'm super a favor of this. Entertainment is value. I think it's a mannero, because the guy see,

the N, the Ngo Boreal, say, I think he never did a sparring, Brann,

you see in the same that the guy not not is done, or made to that you

never took a car, no, know, Bamban, poor, could have been made

some, some, he'd have been a few sparrin' and then it then the guy chica

this form, man, man, ridiculous absolute, I mean, I'm a manh, a man. He made the money, he's

He made the money. But, poor, I could have respected a little more, but also, but he's been a maduco, no, no, no, no. Not, no, no, no, no, no, he'll, it's a bonoom. He'll, you know,

he'll talk about him, you know, I took a fuck. No, it's a-pawd, no, no, so, just to enter there, just, just just to get a little bit, but, but,

but, he's, man, he took him, he took only a minute, man, the cello. Just, just. Just. Just, just.

So, just to finish, car, the first was the first my first of the first of the first question, I wanted to question about this, car, I thought of a interviewer of

a interviewer, I remember of a interview after you got a sultron or was the, the last interview or the last after you, it's a,

last time, or the last time, it's put to a citron, and you said, one of your son was, was to gain

to get a year, oh, no, I'm, say, follow, Fala,

talk, you, talk, in love. Because your dream was to get a time to get a

part of the part of the car little bit of your cat's a little bit of a car chasurro like you're in looking to look

to look for to look for many years and see how your life just moved after the after those

conquions there. I'm very too much on the chan man, car that was

like that was like if all did have this apartment here, I'll, you know,

I'll talk my the better way if it was to work to work in Uber

and we're going to we're in there, and there's a lot of I'm in the person

I always always I'm always I'm going to put it to the little bit to get a a man

I'm I'm a investor now but we're in all the moment and we

want to that person that alug be very be very so much I'm really so it

is impressive the we're amazing the we're doing that I've been to be that's

that's all right I'd lose all the lot of because I'm no way I'm not not sure I'm not

I'm sorry I'm not I'm saying I'm saying I've said I'm just I'm gonna not

don't know I'm gonna champion a champion world so I'm so we're we're looking cause

we're looking cause for we're for a lot but the Florida exploded so the Florida

exploded man It was, doubled all the house, like one hour to another after a post-pandemic and everyone

want to move in Florida too it's a part of the States very good after the pandemic so everyone doing doing

home-office everyone wants to go to be Miami, so what the house here is a car but I said

there, no, no, not to buy to buy to come now, then we're

going to get to go in the apartment, no, we're not we're we're looking

the college, the college, looks as many. And in Quintal, we always always thought in a quintal,

no quintal, in the quintal, in the quintal, both for the Boney, care, and for the child,

and then we're going to get to be able to just sitting, we got this house to get four minutes of the

academy, generally I would go to get to the bike, to the go and I can go

going, I can't be a part of certain, you know, the thing things that

happens, so, continue to do this same work, you know, being being a

feeling the thing I think that I think that I'm a new my wife wonderful

that I'm never never had nothing she's I'm I'm playing champion

world to impress her because like all a man try

impression the girl I'm I'm I'm putting and

I'm and the support of she's very strong for me I think this

what I have this, what I family, it's very interesting, the guy who

no alugue the house turned to my friend, and then he went in the academy to and the first

thing that the parroo to say, he's, he said, the parropin, came from the house of his

house of him. And he was the car who got to get to get to get to but he

said there, man, what he he said, the force, my force really, really, the family,

and my people of the car are, who are, you know, It's impossible to take this force that I have

within me. I think it's a... I don't know. I don't know what I guess. And what I'm the next dream is being realized? I don't have a dream, Guilla.

I live a reality, not have a dream, I say that I want to see my family, but also if not were the want to

do the want to be the they're going to pay belle, they don't have much want to until the 201 years.

So, we're going to do what we actually actually right our our children

are created in this manner, they don't have, there are they're in but a

we're very much very yeah, I think the more important. The our life,

my life and the Gabela is this, like, to live for our children,

to live there, to, to, to, my work is to be, my job is

there would be a other other thing, but I think we have this much

a lot, to create them the best way the way possible, give the the best of the opportunity

that they're to get the great to get the great, too little too. Well, Vovu Pantosha.

Thank you much for your time. I'm sorry that in brief have the confirmation of the Routotot in

Rhinel and we see there in the defense Citoral Ruhn. We're going to

be there my partner because there is our area and it's a thing really if

if I had a opportunity, as if it was the case to put out of any the other side, I'm open to this, you know, this opportunity, I'm the top one to top 20

or top 100, or the top 100, you know, to do that, I think it's a thing to looker, I think it's a thing, no, I don't know if they're prepared for this, but I, uh, I,

I went, I, went, I went, I did, see, I thought, I'm, I think it's my hour there, but God said, no, but God, man, and now, my name, and now, this opportunity

to be able to defend and more I dreamy with this not I'm not a dreamer like I'm and I'm going to and I'm going to

be able to be able to go to Mexico was my last time we're a time, we're having various

voyages to be made yeah it would be better so it would have been there are various

voyages to be made but I say I'm not even like I'm offering money to to tell

a little I'm not because I have a compromise that's in the academy, training, with me,

with the most important, what more important, is the most important, I'm the always I'm always I'm always still in

my life, the Rial Do Cabe, Rio, New New York, I went to California, I went to Arizona, and

I'm in America Top Team, and I know, I know, what you know, what you know, what you know, what you

want, to be a champion, 16 of December, I'm, I'm not so my champion world,

I repeat this for me, because I will try champion world now in Brazil in New

New New New York and I'm sure that I'm sure I'm going to be able to

do that the first time the first year the barra direct to barraal. With certain, I'm going to

say, I'm going to program nothing, I don't program nothing, but I don't have

no think in this, no, don't think in this thing, you know, it happened

when I won't the tournament, the tournament, the tournament, the tournament, a lot of years

I got the cinturon the chuteau and I'm there's back back the barren't youka and then I

went to go to get to get to get a hospital to get a man but I'm just like you just get back

yeah so I'm gonna go ahead so I'm gonna go ahead I'm gonna put you know could have this

opportunity to get this turner right to be in the sun and then the poor of the sun

which are the most in my life. This, por, it's incredible,

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the end of the game bread the box the M. M.M.A. Cilubes, in fact, no,

my friend, and I'm going to back the podcast. How is it being a final of preparation for more a new challenge,

more a title in your career. A. a little bit of this now, the M.A. Cillow, how is

this this preparation? The preparation is going to be good. I'm going to be with you with you

again. The preparation is not going good, thank you very much well, now it's

a rata final, it's more just to maintain the things like they're to do

to do a good and conques this centuron in the game bread after that you did

with the first experience in a little a lot without testando to

valet and not in a train that I imagine that we imagine to be different

what you what you can't do that adaptations that adjustments that adjust you did

in your training, after to have seen, how it's how it's a lot of the hand

the way of the the same line, I'm feeling well, I'm feeling when I said, the first experience that we also was a great deal with

also a precaulton for the ones, the lottadores, of us, the lotators, because the guy that is,

it's been going to be gulpated one or two Sometimes, I don't care so gopia to know, the more,

you know, that it's a lot, you know, it's a much, not a lot, not much,

not much because I'm, it's not because I didn't know to docks many golfs,

many of much of a lot of this sense, but I've done a lot of much, you

think that this a lot that's a lot of your job, because the Aron Belter,

when he was the M.A. He was another person, he was that he was

was a He was a He was a He was a He was a He was a He was a power He was a

He was a He was also He was also He was also He took the talk about He took off Toquogey to

And then at your last Luta was a man to He was a He'd be to you're in To show

to the ground He was a man MRAs in Lov He was He was more He was He was a Toch a porrada

in-pe Basically You think that will be a style more favorable for you that you

don't have to be concerned with a problem with with a yeah, I think it's the type of

I like, in the way, the thing, the thing of the kind of the playability in the part

of the strike. But he has even a experience good with Bernanoke with

with Lutant with Luton So, I'm still I'm trying a man prepared, a lot

d'ar, to the title, we have to prepare for the worst possible, so it's that I'm doing. But I think

the lute in the way is a lot of very interesting, very good, the people will be quite there's much

of this, will have much a trocaation and a procaation with Bernanco is very sang

also. It's it's impresson more the people, but remember the people that,

that's that's many times, in the majority of times, it's not a bobaiz-z a boyce of a

small bit of small, but as well socialized, in our, our, our, our,

our own, it's got some, but it's about it sometimes don't have much much of

there, but I'm very impugated to the lot, like I said, I think

a style of his style of my, it's a, the type of the lot that agrada

a much, the, the your spouse, she assists, or she prefers not for the way, exactly for this side of the sport? No, she'll be there

be there, too, and she'll be there, and with me, as kids, no, not, I think it's a little very very bad, even, or the cunguva, even. I think they're very small to understand

even, even, even not, but my husband will, but, you know, but, yeah, will be able to, Good sequence of a knockout. He was all the box, no box, in the box,

no box, and all the M. M.A. without, he picked Roy Nelson, who is, boy, he's done

as the guys that he was under the guy of more experience, and then the Luda was just

the point. You think that again, against you, it's a guy, is a high- level,

the champion of the FC, and will be a lot more than a little bit because he was trying to

people were that were getting a more, you think it's like a shock of reality, like, so, like, a lot of yeah, it's going to be, and more with you. Ah, in my

in my understanding, yes, it's, I'm going to complicate the life of him. Even because you and Wilson are pesters, like, of fact, and he, not, originally, you know, now? But he originally wasn't, no, but he originally

wasn't, no, no? Yeah. So, in my point of view, as I said, the intention is complicate the life of his of the inside of the

is a petra in the his little he's a but

I think he's a I think he's a man a experience with

a other and he might be to be to be

to be to this this this conscience definitely there's

this concied and what does the show even better

he he will be more better more more

with a strategy more well formulated to get a victory and this just more the combat

so, what I can't say clearly is about how I'm feeling great,

and about my intention to the fight and to find the knockout

as I always I always when you say when you say when you say when you say it's

will say do you to go to go to go to go to go to go

not a nocout both the knockout as a finalization are consequences

of both choices of good movements of good position of the good postionation

and it's a consequence of the implementation of your strategy that's

my intention to go to go and to go back to do that

my strategy and consistently the objective to gain this other,

to gain the sign to but is going to a M. M.M. A.

Coupa, or the contract can't be in a lot of box, or even maybe, what's your

plan for the future with relation to this? Oh, my planagement, I think the my relation with the

game bread goes long, it's a real real a lot, I've had got a lot of

all the way we have done the way we have done the things. But the future

a deuce we don't know exactly what I have a great want to do not be a lotx as you all right against some

some of these guys there these champions I think we have some quality sufficient to to defeat them to

and even more now that Francis Ingram it's possible to get to certainly

complicate the life of their there's so I'm more more empowered

even, but what's what's I'm not not far idea. A new

thing that certainly my relation with the game bread goes going to

go to talk some the time. We're got to say,

Francis Ganuta going to Arab Saudi, Saudi, is being

the polo of the sports of combat event of MMA had been

the time this month, PFR with a prox, there's a lot of boxing, will have the Inganu with Anthony Joshua, will be there, there's there, there also, the Tyson Fury with the Yusick, that's a long, we've done a much time.

And, you know, Pito, a vaguer in the card of the Tysofrey with a music, there in a, in a preliminar, doing part of the card to realize these son and just to start to see in this narrative of the Pesesars, there. Yeah, with a certain.

Or, or, uh, or, uh, with one of them there, or even, in the future. I'm super confiant in this sense.

I have a style of a lot that makes feel very comfortable and be very one of these guys

there, with certain. A we have had had various conversations with promoters and all the

but it never happened the box sincerely it's certainly it has been a little

more difficult or even to negotiate than the proper MMA because the box you negotiate a lot for

a lot, you know, many of times people who have more names, they don't want to

go to risk, gore in risks and do and do and to like, like, like,

like, like, I'm going to start in no box, or that don't have a trajectory,

I don't see, I'm always there's a question, but we've had never

had never conversations good, and I think conform the thing is going to

more the thing I think fanilando every more or another will happen in the first of we'll have

like you know, I'm gonna with Anthony Josh, you who's who's got to do you know,

and he's gonna a, yeah, there's a guy for the promoation, I don't think if you're

to get to do you, but what we think about this this salute and what you think the you think the French

and Gannu can't be superendor more once a way, like was with Contention Fury? You think now the person

will be more in the series after he can be able to do? I think much in the

question of the power of the knockout of Inganu, the energy of his force of

the want to be the love I love much the style of the

way he does the thing to happen to be I think be a difficult

Josh is extremely talented a guy very good and,

so, it's very adapted, the question of box, and everything, he was what the French Ingan

was able to do do you know, he's not going to come to bring to the

big of the chances there's, the Francis Inganu, but I am a lot of clear,

I'm I'm sure, I'm sure I'm going to get a good victory, or even a knockout

about the Joshua. One one thing like can't surprise it's

a question of the power of knockout the force of Inganu the guys don't

know of the the force of that that's only can perceive when the

the battle is happening so that is a factor positive to the

general but the favoritism obviously probably probably should

be the part of the Joshua but we are we are

all the team inganu, and we'll see how I'm going to go out of the expectation in case of victory, he's

in the case of he's in front of Tyson Fury, or who can't have a leke abet of options for the future with all these

cards in the box, these bolsas in the box are infinitely major, even more in more in a

person on this level that he's put this level that he's you're you think he

will come to MMA or you think the the money in the MMA

is very long compared to the bolsa that he will receive against Joshua the gram

that he received against the jury and the other a revice with Fury

until a lot with Yosek. I think in the case of victory could

be that that difficult much this side that even

even because the box becomes being much more compensating,

much more and, and so, the point of view that I have been more simple for the training

not that's not that's not saying that's a line, like you just say that's

the line of the line of the line of we need to have to be a lot of things,

trying to try to divide this type of training during the time, it so

for this in my case, I'm adapted very very well the question of

the I'm a lot in pen. So, for that I see, uh,

for me, it would be more comfortable, very much I would evolve, I would

evolve, I would evolve, I'd try to enjoy the way to for the

French in the we're going to see, but I think in the case

of the victory, maybe it maybe it may be difficult to work, but at

the M.A we have the Rennan problem there, it, He just to be to be

to be a champion absolute, no, the NFL, the bellator. It's a guy who's doing to say,

and it's a lot of him, a man really talented, a guy extremely, who has much a want to,

extremely abidoso, so I see that he will make much a big of a little

and this lot, and this country, he's a one of the lot of the

world, of form really legal, you know, and other, I think he complicate the

I think not, I'm sure that he complicate the life of Francis Ingano, you know,

the problem is enormous, he's gigantic, there invergature so great as far as the French Ingano,

and another, now, he's a fact, he doesn't have the power of Franchin' he doesn't,

he makes, he's a Grand-a-pess-present, this movement is very very much, this movement like a middle,

for example. And I think that would be a difference in the confidence in the confidence that he has in the abilities

of his ability. So I see a great lot of this new moment of the PFL and all and all

to happen. Let's see. Let's see. The future as, as I said, the Lorde PEPT.

When the PEPF announced that there this this, this, this,

this, champions of various categories and that the Francineau could be in front of the winner, I thought, I thought it was, oh, it's almost that it was going to be able to a MMA to win a buss to win a buss minor, to invent a Ryan Bader or Renan Problem. Like, a lot that would not winters and

but after what happened in a event, the form that had the promotion and what what Renan Problema did gain in 21 seconds was the result perfect for PFL because now you have much more than if the Demencese, because you have a lankan, a guy that's nocauting all the world,

he's a version of Brazilian, the guy who's not going to talk to car, so there's a lot of people who doesn't go to see, right? The version Brazilian, but more abidivis, than French isengano.

More abidivis and the reasoningano. The difference of Francinegano is the force is the power of knockout, absurd. Now, in question of ability,

and of facility in the you can just, who can just look to the

person and you know the guy is extremely comfortable with the proper weight, comfortable with

the time, it's a kind of that's a talk about you say, as it's

just the beginning that what's that's going to be in the career of it, I feel

to see this, a guy much mereceder, a guy a guy family, and that's a force,

some energy very good, and I have sure he will continue in this pegat for a good time. Before we

talking about the one of the last times that we talked about the last time you said, he'llogued in him,

he'd see, he had to be a car to be a bank, he, went to, the centuron interino,

what you what you thought of this result? How did you see, now, Thomas Spino

as a as a kind of a kind of, he's the future of his, like the

number one of the Fc, for me, he is the champion of the Fis got to

a year, but he'll go to the Miotit, and if he got to Miotic, if he were,

he was in this lute, in a world, say, for Milton, the champion, how you see

he, he, in the top of the top of the UFC today. I think he,

He, he impressioned against the Pavlovich I think, alias, he's impressioning against all right, but he's really very

the league to the other to the other to the man who's a man really hard, and I think

it's that it's that the guy more actual, the guy that's more in activity is he

is he, so he he has been to be considered the champion and if the John

Jones don't go go, he'd to turn the centuron of

his and to sign to sign a signor linear. But I

think he is man very and and the way the guy really

really really abelis know abelidoos competent that he that's

propon to do and it will be a new moment there for

the category of the Peses Peses in the FEC and A moment good, because,

you've been to live in moments great, it's very time so it's going to do a continuity to this

levada. And you're a guy who's a lot of important of super luthas, lot of history, gain,

to gain, to gain, to gain, money, that's important to much, yeah, it's been the

decision of John Jones, there, to you know, to be the midiottis, too, making clear,

he, that even, there's interest in infantal, he can am infantal, the, John Jones

first, you, you think, the the posture of those two, to sit and just, they're in

all, and they're in all, I think, each one has the way to think and the

thing, we probably is difficult, alias, probably not, with the certainly, it's difficult

you have a opinion, or even to look anything because we don't know what we're

really is going to something, always we think we look a, uh,

some, uh, uh, a situation that's happening and I don't know really

everything everything that's being just being unjust and I don't know exactly how it's

the relationship the UFC is always complicated they're complicated in the

way of the way of the way to happen to happen to happen how

they're how they want, how they think, maybe maybe even

kind of putting on the side the own the own

the first the first of the first of the first of the thing of the

I'm in the I'm a point in a lot that's everyone would be very much

I'm too about this look and I amh I'm quite

I'm so they think that this is the line to be now now

now so because what is being being impeditive do

do that's it's to happen what is the reality for the truth we don't know

so we're going to we'll see with with them so we'll see what can't happen. So the type of the lute is a centuron,

can't get the signoron, and you can't make the but it's in front but not it's a need to be

a certain, it's not that's a little bit of after this lot, so you need to have

a certain in the yeah I think I think the centuron is obviously the objective

of the athlete, but more to, to, let's say, corolling the position that he's encounter and

all the because the centuron is really a symbol of that you are in the first of

the problem and the real Tite the we all we know that they are the first or the

topes there the world in the category so well now the now

now or Renan or went to, Renan, or in front or in the middle, so it's then.

So it's a little complicated. But, but I think they, the two are extremely

experienced. There's a career long, and what for the for the for them, they're going to

see, in this height of the career, I don't be to be not,

uh, uh, uh, uh, Lutant for to be in any way or making

the things happen if you don't think you don't believe. So, let me see what you

will be here. Manila, just to we'll finish the issue of the last time, the victory of Renan

Problema but here in Brazil also was a great issue, Popo and Bamban,

you like the guy of box, how is how you saw, this duel

there, the Popo liquiding the Bamban in a few seconds I was more confiant

in Bamban I thought he would put a car to the game but not what was

what happened it was we're we're waiting a a bit more more

long but but it was all very very very fast the

popol is extremely abelis the techniques the form to

and everything, everything, everything, he's going to be he's going to be, he knows, he's going to be so he's pretty

against these guys, with the case, and the other side, we don't have a lotator, right? We have a

guy who train and, does the, the, the, the, the, the arts

martial, but not a lotator, I think there a difference great there I think it's good

to the people understand, you know, when you're, when you you're qualifying a certain individual

and everything you're talking this, talking about this, about about there are people who are people

who are the majority that's a great based on the experiences that has to be the life actually that can't

or can confront a loter and but not it's very so in the hour that it's the

octagon or sobe in the ring the thing the the black these jroth,

you know, and if you think this type of event, he helps to promote the sport

in some way, or it's more an entertainment that who who bought to see? Compro because

it was a a circus, not, and that not, not, not, not,

not, not, he's interested a other event of box. He will recognize the

pop-pock, poppo, but he he, R, bamban, but not be

pass to accompany the box or make I'll watch see a MMA or something I'm saying yeah I

think it is it gets more in this line of entertainment it's a

something not a thing that's something that is a pointual but that the people

so interest and we have been here too has been happened this type of event

and all where influenceiators guys that are not the world, alias, there are events going to

in this form yeah, and I think interesting, the challenges, I think, I think the proper story

of the rock ballbula, the film there was, which is a story real, it was, more than this

sense that happened that was a great champion there, a chance for a

person disconnced to be the man, and the guy went there and complicate the

life of his in the lot, and it was going to a name so I

think the life is made of opportunities and if this could be an opportunity

for someone to get to be to appear or to show the capacity,

the abilities, that happens so, you know, I think all that

people, that the people are people are people are interested in see,

it's valid. It's valid of you explore, it's valid of you incentivize. And if you're a convict for the cigano batting a little influence Brazilian, it would toparia? Oh,

the money the money, we're going to do. For a lot of 20 seconds, yeah, it's awesome, yeah? It's, like, the thing that's like, I'm like,

it's, like, paying the money is a, fast, not easy, but, like, but,

but, But I'm not. But I'm saying. So, it's, with a certain I'm, the intention

for this power, box, but I think that's, that's people have any interest to see happen, I

will be disposed to do it. I just think it's difficult to try a influence that topass

to enth to try to not. But, even the lot of those, don't,

so, are, going to, But I don't know why. I'm with MMA. I'm never I've never did a lot of box official.

I don't know exactly because it happens this. But it's as as a common they say, the people say, yeah, it's easy.

Now, it would happen to happen to happen. It's other side there's been Victor Petrino that this Saturday

back the time DECC against Tyson-Pedro but a great of the challenge that's a friend of his good on the podcast

more than a podcast more than the expectation of, poor, more a durex that put on your way to putt over your way.

Hello, how you're talking about the people who us accompany here. It's always a lot of here,

yeah, it's the very, with this battle, yeah, we've got the comment

the event the event with Tice Peter, with athletlet durriss that's a manke-

to me I don't get, I think it was to get to be top 10 of the FC. He could have been confronting him, but the opportunity to be showing the work for these people who accompany the FC. You're surprised, who ended up going to call in this event,

the event, the UFC had a lot of principal for this event, that was going to come in this, and it was sobrough the jerry-zine-old, and, por, they've got it in a position

of prestige, you, in the card, after three good victories in the organization, then. well it I feel to because

it had to the first the world that didn't happen to happen a sequence very certain so it's

so it's very emboled when I saw the event I'm sure because for more

that I've been accustomed by the category the majority of the event's in Brazil

to the more than the most the car the principal he's he's

there but I put it's putting coming an event in FECC

with the of the pre. I think, I think, very important a career

very good a career in the career. He's a guy who has been in many years, he's a

many years, he's got of the Paul Craig, and he got the the Calio Round Tree

two two guys that are there, four, years after seven years

after those years after those guys are still really super relevant in the divisions.

What you think this this this is that this does for you? Because he

He comes to victory, too, is a bad in the organization, you think that's a lot that

can be to be a matter, so soon so in the UFC? Oh, I think

all I think happens the way that's to happen to be a man,

he's a man, a man, a baritabat there, but like I said, I'm like I'm

going to go, I'm going to get to some over or other, I'm going to get to a girl,

because I'm not a cresent very great. The UFC, you're learning. Every other than you're doing a lot

better than the other than the other. So, it's it's a guy who, I just want to I'm going to

you know what he's a guy who's also a guy who also also also can't be able to be a future so that

I think I think that everything happens in time certain. So if it came he appeared

now, I think it's the moment to to do with him. Why you want

to be in front him yeah? Ah, because I I don't want to gogharvoos the major

in an organization I want to I'm trying to show that I want to do a path more than a pern,

I think I have to have to make my way, but I think me rest of a moment certain,

a man that is a guy who's going to victory, like he got a great names of

organization, so it's a guy can be a part of entry to get a to make

at them more gabartats to the organization to get the proper

RFC, and he He's coming to victory, like I said a knockout in my no-hout

but in the last year he per for points to Modest which is a guy that you

knockoutio in the last the last a matter and he he per he per

he didn't for the guy that I got I'm my favorite or I'm

know that you know that you know that can't count with

a old on the rabbit in the rabbit is a

a lot. The example, for example, the Kaltz, he won't him, and I knocked I went to him, and he fought with an tourcault, which is a guy that I went to knockoutier, I came to me a peasant, and the

lot of the three rounds, got the three rounds, but he got a knockouture in a turkouge right in the first, if I'm my man. So, no me can't. So, no way different. I think he will be a guy more, every way

complete, but different. And I also don't have a guy of the last one of the could

be able to get to work during my meetings in the things he's not what you

think he he's going to do you do that's going to be this duel of the stilus

there to you do that he's a man, he's a person who also like you

but also some of the other social and I believe to be a party

to be a match to make a minute we're putting to the wrestling of

a lot A lot's very, very emotional for who's who who likes, very, very dynamite. And you

see more more prepared for this type of the challenge in the final of the year he got a farham

of the hand, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, but you're

more affiated on the shone too, now. Ah, I'm a guy,

I'm trying, I'm trying, I'm trying, I'm trying, I'm, no, I'm, no,

I'm, no, I, train no, , I, , I love to train. I love what I do.

I love to train. So I'm a mimea. I'm going to try and I'm going to try. I want to be better in your profession. It's the most of my own time. I'm always doing more than my time. I'm doing my wrestling. I'm going to dox.

I'm doing my logistics. To have a million more complete. So I believe that the chave is this. It's all right for all. It's been pretty much to be the adversary. But I like what you do to do with all day the same. But I think you do... I go ahead of porrata,

you know? Like, like, so, like, he's a bit more affiated, he,

he does this security, I'm trying to try to put up to put him, but if the guy

wants to do you get to back back going to be a way, it's a way,

be a way to be a try to be a superend in a person, and you can do get a

to be back, or if you could be the car, you can't be able

to be you're just comfortable in situations, depending if you be attacking or defending. This is the

baccane of the game. When you learn to play, any situation you feel comfortable. For sure, in the year last you

did three lutses in the FSA three victories. The first of them was practically in the same data

there was on 11th of March that started the your calendar in the

time in the time the plan for this year being more more active even

or I think that three Lutas, are to be this year? What do you have in mind?

I, I'd be the maximum of the opposite. All the will depend also

to make the kind of the other I don't think I don't think, I don't think, I don't

think, well, I'm going to make the first of the next because this time is

more important then. So I'm going to do this now, let's see what will

do the result that will do the result of but if you're doing the maximum, but without, but since forget

that the most important is always the next. With a certainty. I remember I was looking at your Instagram there, looking photos

and all, for one after, you were, well, had been not had been aftainer,

yeah, had been on the container, was in that was in that the call in the call and was

there in the arena of the Rio to, for, to see the event, and we

know that the UFC is coming to back back back to two months, two months after the last of your

lot, so who can know, can't get a victory about the St. Peter,

he's got to decolar a vaga in this event. Well, I'd say, it would be

surreal, I'd be in New York New York New Yorkerger hallucinant if he had an

opportunity that I have been entire too also don't it's

to want to do do whatever way. If I could maybe a victory, because it's been prepared

for the next a lot of NFCRille, it's more than a lot to be in Brazil now because the public

Brazilian is the people are the people are the family, families, and everyone who's all people who are

all the support, so it's more the thing's realised but we also don't want

to present the time. It's different to make a lot to do a opportunity

to do you have a out, and then it was part in November of of the FCC

to San Paulo to be the people not just to be a favor, like, as far in

in San Paulo, but compared to the UFC and Epex, you made a the LUT

in the UFC 290, that's public and but there the fight night for example of now

to try to fight night that is going to do I PECs that not public,

like the climate is different? How is compare as the experiences as a lotator.

Ah, with the truth is there a pletheera, you have a party energize, you know, the whole lot of the party, energize, the people,

militia, boy, rollo-o-o-locat, me, entering your name, shinginging, too, all that,

you, put, you, po, you get to be there, you, get to the, you, all the,

you, get to, all, you, you know, and you go, but, but there,

but, but, the way, you look, at times more conscious, you can do you make a lot more technical,

not we need an aggressive because, too, if you go to see, we're doing, we're not in the plate. And you can sometimes train are

much better than than you're a part of the I'm a part of I'm comfortable too, I've had been in the pandemic,

various opportunities to look at so in public, it was a little different in the first, but it was good, you

could be able if you're doing with an adversary who not a Brazilian, he can't say the can't talk

the person with me about, so I'm So, also it's an opportunity to be mostening every more technical in the organization,

if you could choose, if you'd would be able to be able to an APEX to be that a arena normal with the public?

Ah, arena normal with the public, without, no, because we're there's there to be there to be to presentar,

yeah, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're going,

we're going, if you're, if you're, the adrenalinal, and to get to have a lot to go to to get to go to the group

because that that's a contagionate. If you enter with your music, people, that's the

reason we're doing it's there. We're also, we're doing, to have, how you say, to have

the recognition of the public, yeah, everyone who have this want to be a person,

po, co, co, not to be not to be to be with the big,

for the, oh, it's more than a honor, it's a dream a

year, and the more more chance to be bonus, yeah, they're

two years last just, just doing the pad and then. So,

then the of Torcal man, it was in a fight night, it was with a little

little reduced, yeah, it was a little bit and then also, but there's

the content that's the point, put, no, I think, I think

to enter there's a public is a little the public adversarial there,

you even forget you have to have in the vote if there's in the public if you don't have to be the two

guys there too it's all the right, so if all all the second and this Saturday come the

bonus you know, and the festival and the cash is all a roll a sotho a

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