MMA Fighting - Trocação Franca | Peraí, 2022 ainda não acabou no MMA

Episode Date: December 28, 2022

O UFC já encerrou seu calendário em 2022 e já tem muita gente fazendo suas listas de melhores do ano, mas ainda tem muita luta boa pra acontecer antes do réveillon. No último Trocação Franca do ano, o podcast recebe os três brasileiros escalados para o aguardado cross promotion entre Bellator e RIZIN no Japão, os campeões Patrício Pitbull, Kleber Koike e Roberto Satoshi. O melhor do MMA brasileiro no Trocação Franca, toda quarta-feira, com o jornalista Guilherme Cruz e convidados. The UFC has already ended its season in 2022 and many people are making their best of the year lists, but there are plenty of good fights set to go down before New Year’s Eve. The final Trocação Franca of the year welcomes the three Brazilian champions scheduled to compete in the much-anticipated Bellator vs. RIZIN cross-promotion in Japan, Patricio Pitbull, Kleber Koike and Roberto Satoshi. Listen to Trocação Franca with Guilherme Cruz every Wednesday to hear from the biggest names on the hottest topics in the Brazilian combat sports world. Follow Guilherme Cruz @Guicruzzz Subscribe: http://goo.gl/dYpsgH Check out our full video catalog: http://goo.gl/u8VvLi Visit our playlists: http://goo.gl/eFhsvM Like MMAF on Facebook: http://goo.gl/uhdg7Z Follow on Twitter: http://goo.gl/nOATUI Read More: http://www.mmafighting.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Support for this show comes from the Audible Original, the downloaded two. Ghosts in the Machine. The Earth only has a few days left. Rosco Cudulian and the rest of the Phoenix colony have to re-upload their minds into the quantum computer, but a new threat has arisen that could destroy their stored consciousness forever. Listen to Oscar winner Brendan Fraser reprised his role as Rosco Cudulian in this follow-up to the Audible original Blockbuster. The Downloaded, it's a thought-provoking sci-fi journey where identity, memory, and morality collide. Robert J. Sawyer does it again with this much-anticipated sequel that leaves you asking,

What are you willing to lose to save the ones you love? The Downloaded 2, Ghosts in the Machine. Available now, only from Audible. Support for this show comes from the Audible original The Downloaded 2, Ghosts in the Machine. The Earth only has a few days left. Rosco Cudullian and the rest of the Phoenix colony have to re-upload their minds into the quantum computer, but a new threat has arisen that could destroy their stored consciousness forever.

Listen to Oscar winner Brendan Fraser reprised his role as Rosco Cudulian in this follow-up to the audible original blockbuster, the downloaded. It's a thought-provoking sci-fi journey where identity, memory, and morality collide. Robert J. Sawyer does it again with this much-anticipated sequel that leaves you asking, what are you willing to lose to save the ones you love? The downloaded two, Ghosts in the Machine, available now only from Audible. Media Podcast Network. Seniors and Seniors, in command of the podcast, Trocaation Franca.

And representing the M.MA Fighting in Brazil, Guineering! Hello, my friend of Lott. Well, welcome to sixth-a-eighth episode of podcast, Trocazaum Franca, A Sua, a house about MMA in this immense podesphera. I'm Gailen-Cruis, correspondent of the site American on M.M.A. in the program in the season.

I know that much of the climate of end-of-a doing balance of 2020-12 and trazzan the plans for 2020, but the real is that I'm still still never terminated, guys. Much fan of MMI and see see

in frontos of many botetic the world where the gananza would be the entertainment of this quality, is the reveree a Japanese that

will not be us proportionary this. No, I see that no one will be in this parada, but even as

see, but even if the champions of playing, simply to you interterter and prove who is the

one is the part of a lot of a time to do you, it's a time for far from

what's going to I'm I'm resumidantly here. The Bellator will send five of their best lotators to Japan to confronts to RISE in the day 31 of December.

The regra-va was a mixture of all, basically regas of Prade with the cutovelas liberated in a Saitama Super Arena, the iconicinianian-jublis, who has received editions of Pradesh, of Pradesh, like Fedor Krocopi Minotauru, Shoguin Minotoro, Minotaur, Vandelei, counter Arona, Rampagea,

and, of course, bizarrisces, the Niveor, against FEDOROR, against Zulu Zillu Zubo, we'll have Patrice Pitbull, champion of the penas of the Bellator, counter the also Brazilian Cleber Coak, which is the donoom to 6-6, in Rising. In the Luntor Pro-Priest, we'll have

the Reyeson, who is Robert Satoshi, Brazilian, against-A-J. Mackey, ex-Campion of Belator rival, of Patrice Pitibul. The Japanese Ki-Orygouski, who was champion of two organizations at the same time, in front the Hiromaza Oji Kubo.

And the Tiratemae and the organizations but still will have Juan Art Tuleta, ex-campion, and who's Tukin, and who today is here against Gads and Rabanadov. The event will pass on ESPN4

here in Brazil, unfortunately, a little bit for who wants to the last day of the year and, I'm sure, much MMA

of a high quality if you, if you, of course, if you, certainly, that's all that's all

explained to for who's all overing in the last year, we're going to the Japan

to come to the three Brazels to this this challenge, coming with a champion Patrice Pitbull,

see that's the other side of the line now we're going to do 231 of December and the year doing a great

lot of Kleber Koeck champion of Belator against the champion the champion of Rising. Not will be the centron of nobody, but

it will be the moral to have said that the champion of the other event. Patrice,

welcome here the podcast how we're being the podcast, how we're saying a lot of this time and that finally will be

a lot of The expectative is the best of the best We're the strategy well-moted The training was very good The President

are still But it's controlled, the pace is a bad Cambe is a champion, has 27 finalizations

in the career I'm I'm impressed with this number I don't know, I didn't know at an

officer at and I said so high that someone from the world I heard what we're

going to be happening between two grand organizations I'm very so much with this

are here and doing my role protagonist, let's see. There's a many people who

know the Kloak, the guy who got to be championed with KSW and he's doing the

end up, finalizing all the world, until to get to the centron. What,

what you didn't know about he, you saw, after the game of the

game, to have this battle marked to roll finally? He's still got to the Asia, the events that are

going on in the United. But the sport has space for many organizations and it's good that we have this

Brazilian in great in great in the organization we can let's the great

combat and the victorious be really of Brazil, depending of what is it.

One thing that I didn't perceive in the story of he, he tries

much calm and the pass the combat and the athletes

I think that's spunk to him and he will end up he strangle the caros. I'll

get the braso and he comes to some of no no matter. So it's

a guy that's a time all the time to because I know that he maintain a certain

the lot of a different, the whole lot of a lotterteroes, but for not defending the centauron,

obviously, all the athlete, all the athlete, and he's always a little but you know,

because you know that will start 2003, even as a champion of the peso Peno for me,

for me, every other the lot is the most important of my life, I don't get to get, the

person is the same is the same for I'm the time I'm going some time

when I know when I'm more capacity of the age going and the

reasons, are getting more serious. I'm going to start to go to

get a lot of people who have seen to do you know, so superlut and I'm still still but I

know that not going to more than five, four years. So, it's a thing we have to

get to get a reality, the lot of a breakadering. I imagine that in theory,

this lot is similar the pressure to the factors external than when you

when you fronted Michael Chandler because you were in other division, so no importance of what happened would you would continue the champion, but you'd want to win her, and ran the head of his

in a minute. It's just, Michael Schen, also had that part of the personal, he said, he said a lot of my brother, and then the juts, he ended up colliding there, and I resolving the

our threat in one minute. But it's a lot important, also, not have this trocah of far, but there's, this troc of, much that's

a bit of nothing that's the contrary. Kleb is a very good a guy very respectator

and I respect, I respect, so the people are equal, but in the life

all the better one is better than I've done my recently, I wrote to him

that he did it for you did it because he did this in the past

he went to the Japan represent the bellator in the GP

Pesleleve and he came after he said he said the principal

the principal conser he he'd I'll have the regras, because it will be a TIRs of META, will have everything to be the happiness of the PRAGE after the tantus

years, in a regular more limited than the record of the United. I, in my my estraia, I think more three, four, five, I looked in this regra, so my commencement of the Valley Tudu

was exactly in this style, and it was a style that we had a lot of advantage. Patrick, for you have an idea, He had three knockouts in the first three luts for prison.

So when it took it from our game, limited a little bit of our own American,

and they're asked them to me, what was the regra that I would like to look at my hand,

the decision to put a regra in the lot. And I said, ah,

I'm a shock of organizations, each one has your regular, bot a regular,

the regra the regra American and the regular that is used are in the same

Luta and the guys accepted, so I created a new regra, the regra value all in

really, the regs, came, came on the table, put a man on tatam and it, can't do that

cutovela and it's, even, it's going to go back, that's not value in the United.

I think the great difference, then, is the answer of the cluelated, not,

because the regal of RISing, that's that's permitting, not, no, no,

no, no, the way, none any of the United it's not this,

not the North Sioux. So, in this event will be it too even,

it's a arm that you, this this is a little illegal in the United

and you is a arm that you see breaches in the United would be

much more more more a thing or a more a cuthals that

not a different that's much different that does because

these cutvelas more angulared and subing they are more to cut. Machuca too,

but this, so, furing, see the weight of the body, I think the damage is very major. For this, that's the United is not put.

This is my perception. You think exactly this movement would be good for you, imagining in a scenario that the Kleber like a guy

of the ground is over behind of you? Ah, with the guy of the Jiu-Jitz, you know, so, bologna,

I like to put a the head in the back of the a back the back of the head to

make a bit to do you know, and many the job are used with a case.

So, there are in the can you can be to do you dovelas. Talking in

games of Jujits, you're a guy that, por, Fasha Preta Jiuitso, has finalized many people, have more

victory for finalization than for knockout but you're a guy who's a lot more

especially in the last the last the time the person, a guy very cerebral

in a pose more of Karate in but but the Kleber not, Kleber is that

kind of kind of quite a old school that you will be the he's going to do the chom that he's

going to try to try to try to try to what he's doing a camp for a guy so

knowing that he will want to try to try to try to to try to to try to the time

he procur imitate much much he might imitate much he's he's

he's more to simbol with a guy I think he did he

did even the camp Natalanda. I don't know if I'm I'm in a lot of my name of the United, I don't know if I'm an old, but it's an idea, he makes a moitai,

he, he, he, he, he doesn't be a moment, a guy, and the guy, and the guy,

and he's got to be a sulk, is sulk, shoot, is chute, and I don't go to a, with a,

with a guard back, not, to be surprised, but I'm, I'm, I did, a lot,

I just simulated, a lot, we simulated, we simulated, we simulated, we simulated, what our adversary

has been doing. So my sparrhy principal was Ronnie Jason the guy who is really

good good Jiu-Jitsu so he me helped me in this part there. I came

coming to Japan more to get to get used to be to get to him to be he

to be he going to continue to the future. The Rone Jason he imitable

just the style of his he'd hemitable the he might he'd

when he got the when he got to get to he comes and he will be

this part of the way to forgets. It's cool, it's it's good. Who knows, it's just I'm going to get. It's going to be it.

It's what you think you think a guy for averker that's the for you can't do you know, what you've battled

for cross-promotion for the challenges between events, especially if you in front of a champion or you

as a champion of Belatour won't, the long list of adversaries of renom that you have beenceal.

go to Japan and finalize the champion of Japan. What is it for you in terms of category in a scenario general, I think we're going to pass what the sport is there's much thing, there's much going to happen

and turn the MMA much parasit with box. So who can gain with this are the athletes, in my vision, the organization, and, especially the fans. So, we'll put a league champion-contra-companion to

fight, we'll just know that we'll be able to the two, and then it's the possibility to I confront the champions of other organizations. I think the first is this, let's be what happens

after this. You're getting the thing is interesting, who can't do you, maybe, in the United? There, valeting a centron? Ah, I think, depending of how I'll gore the rifted, it's a really valid, and leaving to the South American, it's very important,

too, important, too. We have the Ruriguchi, that's turned the champion of the two events, who can know you can't get to get this feat also, you know, because there'd have a accord between the two organizations

to have a signetown in a game, because it would be a logistic very different, had to eventually to return to Japan to defend the centaur exactly,

it's a grandiose, but it's what has been to be made with a lot of having to be seen that there's this problem of the logistics

between the organizations, the distance, I have my title of the Ballator so, so I have to know how

it's been it's a very much but I'm in the same event he's going to your great friend,

E.J. MacI, infrenting the Satos, who is the champion Peasoleve. The Stoche

as like the team, they're not together, they're not a lot of the Stoche is even more a

guy full of Jiu-Gitzo how you think that will be this confront between the two Yeah,

Jamie here is that he's a He's a He's very dangerous in the beginning of

the first of the if he's he's gonna the rhythm he comes to be a little

more frequency it's more than franetic and in the part of the

shan Satoshi in my vision is very the guy had a

finalization in of the the guy who he was

the guy he doesn't he he finalized he So, it's a lot

Duda, Lut Dura, just have to get to get in the first round and try to symbolar with the Dima Kyi,

that is very probable that Dima Kyi has this game because the Jiam Kaki also is complete, derobababit, has a good

juries, there's good signalizations, so, so, getting a advantage. And your

Paltos, you know, the Pauce finalize, or you think the Maki will be winnings in the

final? I don't see. Lutdaura. Lutado, but I'm a to the Brazilian. You know, you're

like, you're like like a like he's talking about internment that's we don't

to wince RISE, but I am a brander I'm a so it's a 1 for the bell ator

and you and get the other it's that's exactly and just just

for just for you can't a champion pesupina that you're who's

you're a champion how you you see the mission that the Volcanoves

who made away to move to the little bit of his way, to get to get to

70 kilos of the RFC I'm sure. I'm perfect. He's doing what I did,

what I did, he's a time, he has to test the same, have to

get to the category. He, not is the guy who is a heavy, I think he

can do a job, in this lot of this lot we know, the way the advantage

of the advantage of the verga d'hergura and but it's a lot of embassated to the champion

on the we're in a great combat, with a surprise. You're surprised the form

how Rachev is seen as a favorite for this battle? No, the people are the people who are

a favorite who is a zaraan sometimes it's right and many sometimes I think

that's gonna go to know, I know, because he's the main category, no,

I think it's very difficult to be beaten, it's be controlled, it's difficult to be ashamed in-p-pair, it's difficult to be

finalized, so not the guy that's fast to be asked to be ashamed. Velocity, he has more than he's more than he has more

a good strategy there, but let's see. If you were the trainer of his style that Vokanov's have

and seeing what Mahatjav is able to do, what strategy you would would be to make him to do that

try to try to try, basically that's, and do what he does, he dominin very

very at distance. He doesn't a style like the but he's a strategy that he puts in the

last little in the way to be it's a problem, and he can't be a touch and it

doesn't be taken in the combat. You can't be a time after you time and the time

so you think he wins for points then, not a lot of he will

make a knockoutial or finalize he no marge he can he can't knock out

with much volume of but he He got the carous apathes, that had been doing this. Sub-Korean and the ex-campion, is the name of him now.

He, he said the same strategy. He beat, I, beat, and the guy, it was, for many gropes there, was very done-fificated, and it ended up. It was happening at the lute. But I think it would be for points, really. Bealeza, Patrice. Thank you, for your time,

on the other side of the world, conversing with us about this lute. Good luck, in the end of the end of the week. to be a curious to see those next pastes in 2022 in 2020 in 2020

Belator also. Thank you thank you thank you. I'm sure. We're going to turn to the

other side of the ring to have been a new a new a new interview after the rapid interval commercial.

Boarding for Flight 246 to Toronto is delayed 50 minutes. Oh, what? Sounds like Ojo time. Play Ojo,

great idea. Feel the fun with all the latest slots in live casino games and with no wagering requirements. What you win

is yours to keep, groovy. Hey, I won! Feel the fun. Morning will begin when passenger Fisher is done celebrating. 19 plus Ontario only.

Please play responsibly. Concerned by your gambling or that if someone close, you call 1-8665331-2-6000 or visit Comex Ontario.ca. Unwrap holiday magic at Holtrenfrew with gifts that say I know you. From festive and cozy fashion to luxe beauty and fragrance sets, our special selection has something for every style and price point. Visit our Holtz holiday shop and store or online at Holtrenfrew.com. It's hockey season and you can get it.

anything you need delivered with Uber Eats. Well, almost, almost anything. So no, you can't get a nice rink on Uber Eats. But iced tea, ice cream, or just plain old ice? Yes, we deliver those. Goaltenders, no, but chicken tenders, yes, because those are groceries, and we deliver those too, along with your favorite restaurant food, alcohol, and other everyday essentials. Order Uber Eats now. For alcohol, you must be legal drinking age. Please enjoy responsibly. Product availability varies by region. See app for details. This episode is brought to you by Pelham. A new era of fitness is here. Introducing the new Peloton Cross Training Tread Plus, powered by Peloton IQ.

Built for breakthroughs with personalized workout plans, real-time insights, and endless ways to move. Lift with confidence, while Peloton IQ counts reps, corrects form, and tracks your progress. Let yourself run, lift, flow, and go. Explore the new Peloton Cross Training Tread Plus at OnePeloton.CA. On the other side Now we have Kleber Koi The Brazilian The President of Pizu Kroiske

No, on the day 31 December Enfronted a other Brazilian champion Pesopena, the Patrice Pitcho, who is the don't of the

Cinturon of Belator, this super-luta that will have to be to a year to the end up the end up

the lot of the lot of the funs that all the people ask a cross-promotion the Japanese again

once a once a one way will be this with this but never a podcast, a pleasure to

to talk with you more than a bit of this a rata final a few years to do a little that everyone wanted to see

a challenge between champions you and Patricio thank you all of all thank you all the opportunity

good good time for all it's a good it's a great a lot it

I think today we think we we have a we we have a thing

a It's a great, that's a thing is to do a challenge of organizations, a thing even more than the other than the

thing I always always, always I always always did it, and I'm happy that's a point I'm content to be able to

make this great a great fight and with a great champion as a big team.

You have made this LUTA, a little time after to have conquered the

Cintoron, you got did the Chico, in the final of October, there was

been announced this event in partnership, and was a new battle, it was more complex

to do this camp because because, along to be a challenge really,

you don't have been time to be to be to this battle, or it

was a because you've been in the embalah of a camp, and then you've been on the other. I've had to be able to this for Aiseng, that I'd need to more time and more a lot like this, which is

very important, and contra who is, you know? We know that the pitibu is the best-per-peas for-for-peas out-the-fc. I consider it a better, not, for the FECD, today, for me. So, I'd like to

more time for me to be to train to this the Lutta, but I have been of another camp,

so I just, I'm just embaled, but with if I could have more time,

with a certain, it would be I'm a person who's a personner D'Rise Raize

me put to work, I have to work, so let's what I'm important, we're always

always being always being because we never know when the opportunities when the And in the case,

I'm more a way, this opportunity came. And thanks a God, I'm going to another game,

I'm going to never a lot. So, let's try to work. The Patrice Boot, he reina as

a champion in the Bellator a much time, you know, he's got, he conquistor and all, and he defends

that he is the middle me-a-mea-day- of the world, even including the UFC, with the UFC, and there

many people who can't with him what you do you think does, what you and your career,

you gain of a guy that we consider the best of the world? I also consider, I think one of the

most of the world, like I'm for the FACC, he's not, he's not, it would be

he'd be in the top three there, top five. I think is a guy, that has a a,

a, a puricul, not, very good, have a trajectory there, the numbers no MENCH,

the guy was a champion of 6-a-ma he was champion of 70 I think like I'm

like I'm before in a other interview I think it's an opportunity to be trying to

be able to work of my work I'm getting I'm doing

making a good I'm doing I'm I'm I'm I'm going to

put today on the radio of the world and I I don't think that I can do make a great battle and

I'm going to respect him, respect to him, but I think that's not my chance I'm protected

and it's that you. You are the champion of rising, getting him and you don't get

the centuron but extraficial you will be so, you will be, you say, the champion

of Belator also, you think that you could, that you would, would be the

world for to be, I'd be, say, be the champions

of two great events like the Risen Bellator? Or you think the the

people are going to see the Vokanobs, that for being the UFC, for this grip of the UFC, will

be he I prefer not think not in relation to this, you know, I'm

too focused in doing the lute and gain, and I think he is an an

great He is a guy who has a great name, has a lot of expression, but I also, it's like a, like a loter, like a lot of quite, you know,

I'm trying to be focused on this, not to be dislumbring. Oh, the guy is the champion of the Bellator, but if I get, I'm going to be the

world, I prefer to be a little more on the ground, and be centered on what I'm going to do, because at least

we think, thinking much in these things, and we're going to be going to, if you're my life,

my life will be the more, I have to think that I have to gain this luta, as I've got to gain various others, you know, I'm much admiration for him, but it's just more an obstacle in my

life. To get, it's just more an obstacle, you know, in relation today, the UFC, everyone knows, the Kanovs, who is the best of the Pesompson of the world, the best of mea-mea-mea, and there's a sombreed of lus in relation to this, batheed our

idol, our Iq, who is the Joe Aldo, batte, the Rory. But, I'm my focus more is to show that we have

other potences along the other the other other potences as we have in Belator

as same as as I pretend to show that we think we also we can't fight to

with them in the sense to to show to the world that not exists so the

FC that no just the we can't other champions and we have other

people so good as well as the UFC today. Today you're in the FC is an option

for me in the case today is an option if I want to if I want to go to my organization or I want to

do my work, I want to do you want to for me it's more in relation to this you know another great

organization in Europe yeah had a conversation in some time of your career has been

was offered you just it was been attempted it's, it's been balanced, how is it, has, already, has already, so, has already, this time, I even

made, I, and I've been a big, but it's, it's a more repercussion, because I, I've really, I've heard much time, I've, I've, perished in a UFC, and, and, I'm going to do things of the FC, and it ended, and it, and then, it, and, before, when I,

I, had a terminated, my contract with KSW, I tried to FC, but the factor did 20 a drop and they didn't because my last month

there was a last month they were they don't want to they don't want to I'm going to get to get to gain again

and they came to a proposal and then I recused for the crisis of the rise

when I started to get a in RISing and in stock they they were in a

now and today I'm I can't I can't I can't I can't I can't

I can't My idea, is me maintain in RISE, and maintain the organization. I said, I had said to have said a lot of people.

One's parambelized or others me critiqued, for not have to go to the FECC, but it was my opinion.

The RIS me appealed, in a moment that I was in a time, for RIS who me

did a opportunity, I came to the Japan, so, so, today I don't have this

song to be in F.C., I think this is that I I have I have other

dreams, the I'm saying, to make that my organization creas, to make my

organization so make my organization so the organization and I want to exist, so the

champions of the FC, there are other champions and other organizations that have

that have conditions there, to leave, to leave the M.M.A. much more

a day, but they think the media, the the fort, today, the media,

it's a lot in the fact I've been I've been here's time, I went to meet with Brazil one way, I'm going to go, I've done, I'm going to be, man, I'm going to be a that's that's

both the champions of and as I think there are there's a game of the lot of the

victor that's like so say so that's so you having this this this is the

way you think you think you think you think you're a game of jiujitsu with a

clearly I'm more more strong not quite finalizing everyone on the rise

and saying that you're saying the he's the a game in-pe-bom,

also, he's just-you-sdily, finalizing a lot of people for there. But you think he has a chown to do you? Or you think he will avoid knowing that's your principal

arm, clearly, so the factor is interesting, everybody today today talk much about the BITB as a door, but if you

look at the shir-dog of Bich-Boo, he has more finalization than the lookout. So, if you don't if you're not talking of a bestere, he has 12 finalizations,

11 local and the decisions. I think it's a complete, for that I admire him. He thinks a lotator complete, both in the part of the location

as part of the Jujits. But I think very to my work, I believe in my Jiu-Sitzo, and the same way that I

know that he comes to me lockoutier, I go in the buska the finalization. In the same the form

that I know that I can't err with him, he also he can't get to get to him on the

the ground, for much that he has a lot of many of some of Jiu-sats

to the front, but I think my my Jiu-Jitsu in this part is a differentiable. And I

think I can surprise the part there's a kind of the interaction. I respect a much,

I'm a man who I'm a supporter exceptional, but I am in a life for my family,

a life better for my family, I'm in a business of my food. So it is a guy that, if I could

gain him I know that I'm in a lot of the so I'll do do all the time and I'm trying to champion. And at the same

night we'll have your friend Satoshi when I need to say, you know, but the centron in the new, not

not be in the game against the was the was the penna too, but then then,

but then he was the principal with the goal subdued to the victory, he was with the decision.

the Satos is a embaled on the other side of the world. How is you think that your friend terminus the service against the Macir? MacIre is a guy

a little difficult to fight, man. He is a guy ecletic he does, he does all a little,

has a lot, there a trocaation good, there's a good and some the game, but I believe me to Satoshi.

Satuji, he's a person he's a different I always I always comment in relations that I think there are people talented, there are people

abelitosa, and there people disforceded. I see a man talented, ablisive, and is forced, you know? It's a guy who no fault in train, is a guy that's always there, is, it's a life of athlete

even, literally, but I think the difference of Satoshi is the Jiu-Jitsu. I think the Marki He never pegged nobody in the bathe. We're talking about him. We're talking of another model. But Satush, he is a champion,

he batted on Toppeg. As he, he was one of the guys, there were one of the guys there to beamed. And with, with him, and, for sure, not will be different with him. I believe that he will finalize him. I think he'd say to say a thing that's interesting, because nobody

didn't know if at Tosh had negotiations to Tosh to do Tosh to do you know, this disaster of Belatoria I knew Toshia would

do you dochia and then after I lute I said my my best friend my professor is my best that's the day

I'm going so that's some of the reason that I accepted that for we're to make this challenge

against and I'm I don't could let him so Zvereign in this barco so for this that I pulled

there in that I I'd be with him this day special. If it's a great for him, but be a great a challenge too for me.

As we've just had other in the future and we've not passed that we've we've been together and this time

we'll be to be in the people Japanese, and both the people Japanese as the people

Brazilian, that I think we need to do this which we dependee of you, the RISN,

will have 2 a 0 in the placar there, against the Belator, in the other three the challenges

between Belator and Rizen, there aretuleta on the side with the Kim, representing the Rizan, the Kyoji Ruggush

on the other the Belator, against the Hiromasa Al Jekubo of Risen and there the other

the other the other, the other, the other, what's the placar final that you pre-per the

pre-the-of-the- you think it will be goaled to be gole-a-0 or you think it's difficult to be to be-0?

It's interesting, on the other other side is a guy who is my friend of his friend he

has a good, but he's who's definitely he's he's not he's in the

he's he's a real rise and he's a real arisen but he also he also

he's a friend that I'm a time that I came to the United was a he's a

guy that I always I'm I'm a I'm if you're a person who I'm

who I'm I'm a guy who I admire today is the Rory Gutz without of doubts, after the

second, but he's the other side of the team, so it's a little bit of it's a lot of and if

if God's we're in bus to do you know, I'm in the other side, but we have to defend

the other country, like I'm saying, I think of the other and then for the whole of

zero, and soh soh- and to finish the last podcast 2022, secure in

a interview with a Frater Robert Satos, champion of the Leves that

side of the line. We have Robert Satoch, champion Peso Leves and the Risen, that on the day 31 of December, feasts the year for the organization. In a different this time, the Centuron, not will be in the show, but it's a great challenge

against E.J. Mackie, one of the major stars of Bela, this co-promotion that will have, another one way, in a challenge, five-contra-five. How is it was a

preparation, the expectative for this duel different, now you're representing the organization against the organization considered number two

the world, who is the Belator? I think preparation is the same. I think preparation is the same thing for the training, I'm not sure. This time, I was the only thing I did different. I don't know if everyone's not saying. The last guy that I loted, that I defended my cinty was Johnny Keese. And he

is here going to be helping. He's here me helping me helping in the training. I think it's more that I'm doing different. And the fact of representar Rising is just a felicity, being representing the

Rising as a champion in the event just a like alexia how is this part of him

it was you he's a he's he's procured how is this union of two adversaries

there? So he got got to me one way and I got the last

he got of me and the day next time he went he went a message

saying for me to me recover for me it was it's it's

very great to have the ring with me and all, and everything. And when I

gained him, he made a message. Oh, he said, oh, you're going to be a good for you. It was a honor to

divide the ring with you, or so, so, man, he's a guy to be a real guy,

in the victory of the war, he no, he not, he not, he was the person,

and when he's been, and when you know, I think he in it, because of the satura is the

same, the biotivo physical is a very the only difference that he is more,

the box and the AJ shuta more. But in question of the part physical of Wessler, the Wessler American, I think it would be very similar,

I gave idea for Risen, Risen, got him of the idea, for he's being a representative of Risen also, and it was a good kind of this

thing Rising versus the team Vellatorner. The Risen helped do it to take it to Japan to to be able to

to train with you. I was just I had a but then to bring him to back in relation to the paper,

the vis-vista the Japan is difficult and then so was the Ryse that was very nice, it's really nice. And then

after this camp on the other guy, who did you feel of the difference? Because you have your team very much

very fechated there, you know, you know, the guy of bonsai, the clubber, the time,

everyone, very uned, training, the focus, is much more in Jiu-Gitz, because it's a school

of Jiu-Gi how it was there a more in this camp to help and to

to bring a aspect different for the preparation. No, then, this that I still was worried in the first, because he also will come out in a year of year,

like he's going to get to come to run, he's going to run. Then I said to him, I said, but, but, but when you train there,

you train, like, you're, like, focused on, defense of a quackard and this academy is totally different,

yeah, we train, focused, in, do some, in, do some, but he's,

but he's He trained with a lot of the UFC, of other events, so he's accustomed to do these training for, and he, in the first time he's just kind of

he's used to, he's a person, yeah, that we train here forrather to the part of the process, that's just helping

him too, he felt comfortable, I think he no will make a little a fault and came to add not just for for him,

but for the part of the process, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some,

some, things different of the training that he can also to help a lot of we're in the other side. And the adversary that's

going to fight with him, he is a really strong, he's a guy great, as you said, he has a car strange, but you think he will try to make a show with you? Sabbending that this is, obviously, a true great arm in MMA? That's what I'm a lot. I asked

for my brothers, and my my brothers thought that he not would do you not do not, because he will be in the trodacaion. So then I, I asked him for Casey, no, I think he was going to say, oh, no, I think he he's going to say, he's not, I think he's, he's not, that he has opportunity,

I think he will try to try to try to try to he has a confidence of the he's a

confidence that he also he's a thing, the guy, I think the risk to know,

let's see it's all this so much, so, so, both in the part of the process,

and in the part of the the part of the so, so I think he could have the

chance to want to be a back back so, even if I try to put

he back he will be a bit a I think if he if he seemed that was very

dangerous I think he will be just in the part of the part of the procaation too

but I'm those two games there's just if it's not a true of the situation

if you're training in those two those possibilities when he became the best champion of

battle after Patrice Speedbou was a finalization and a

guy in a car no cartes was too not not trying the merit

of him obviously poe pick a gullll the patrice not

it's it But the victory earlier of him was the most impressive that was the finalization

of a... He was he was going to a position completely a totally of a total, he was seen as

that he was one of the one of the one of the when he finalized the guy in a minute in a

position that a lot of the person that he had seen the M.A. I know,

I knew a position. I thought that, the I thought that, the the

I'm sorry, the Daniels, yeah. I think he'd He'd be he'd have defended if he had to be taken to move to look at the

time, but the problem is he wanted to maintain the position, batting the hand with the mon like to, like, to figure out in the isometria, but the angle of force of the E.J. There was much more favorable for him. So, I think it was a position different,

but it's a position that, like, my, here in the academy has happened. I think, if it was, like, if I was, the hour that I'd try in the morning and deba back to the tally, I would try to try the head, I'd be with the head, but, it's a finalization.

surprising, let's say, it's a finalation that exists, not in the Jit's as in Kymono, but for you execute it in

M.A. It's a question, not. How is it the name of this in Portuguese? Because I think that was a

name, when they were an name, she had a victory, she didn't, she had a name, she

has a car, the only difference that in a cervical, you push just on the pesk

and in this day you infia the end of the tuesday, and then, and then the part of

the position that that's the official, that's just the policeial peg the arm, this then

force the guillotina. It's for me a variation of guillotina. Who knows, you, you can't you get him, then?

Yeah, is trained. I'm trained. This day. It's so that you see doing the issue, you think you

would be a impact the more of you should be to continue to show to dogium, continue to

continue to show, the same, the important to win it doesn't important to it doesn't

a good special to final to finalize. I think the important is to wince, no matter how, but, man, I'm I feel confident, like, in the part of the ground, I have confidence. If he

errar a little bit of finalizing, doing, doing guard, standing on the montada, on the costs, I have a confidence, like, in my Jiu-Tis, that one error that he did, I can't finalize.

And what you do you think does for you? In terms of your name, the form of how you are seen, out of Japan you're going to, especially finalizing or knockouting, a guy who is popular like the United, the guy who is very

great in the States, a guy who was in victory during, like, 20 luts, got him, got to Patrice, but he revealed, but now it's a new division. And gain of a guy popular this, like,

how can't your name will be in a global, so? Yeah, for me will be the, I think, it's, it's, it's, it's,

I'm trying to, like, I'm people to, like, the people are saying, like, oh, the Sotosch is doing M.A. It's a champion of the Centuron, but it's there in Japan. The guy still has this preconceit with some events of Japan.

Apesa, some of the supporters durus in the event, some people who are not so much to the media national. National, not. In the media world, you know, to be able to fight with a guy that has the name that he has in the event, the Belator. The respect that he has in the world of MMA, to me,

it's a realization of the dream, because, like, I've realized the same to the fintrown

of the event and have the recognition world is just part of the work. So part of the

requirement. I think who says that you know, to not valorize the career because I

don't accompany the fact, because you see the Musayev, for example, that you finalized

is a guy who got got to Patrick Pitibul, is a guy that's in the car

of the goal to to dispute the team. No, a lot It's been the number two of event. Well, you finalized

the Johnny Casey, who is the guy who has who has been names very strong in your curriculum now, and not that you're getting,

for more or less, you're finalizing all the world, so it's, so it's the guy that's the level of elite that,

for the public, especially in the States, in the Brazil, you know, the, you're not, you're not,

if you're not, if you're not, if you're not, if you're, not so so great, you're not so good,

like it's like like it's like like this like this thing, it's like this mentality even,

yeah, so I think the people know, but don't have this this is a man,

but I'm, but I'm like, the person never went with him he looked with him

he looked at so, then it's that he's that he's this here that he's a car to

this is the guy, this is the this is the number two Belator so if

if the people if the people will be yeah but just

has this sensation, I think. And you think that Kleber Koeck will have this recognition also getting to the Patrice Pitbull, which is a guy

that, different of E.J., that was the Tijuanaealien, but he will gain the champion of Belator, you think he

will be used like this form also, he will have this role. This lute is a lot that, in a very

I said to, oh, I'm a little, no, because he, me, he's looked now in October, October, no,

October, no, if I'm if I'm not me in gregn, he's He's, we'll play, don't pick a

little bit, you're gonna prepare to to do that, but I'm, they're the name for him and said,

no, I'm gonna know, I'm gonna know, I'm like, because for the pitch

Bu, is the one of the many, most of the major, in the national,

in the actual, uh, and then, he said, he's, he'd have paid the story that

he's he's already in Belatort that he he's got the time that he's

he's he's, so, Foo Kleber is a honor to a man to look with a guy on the level

of Patricio and, with a certain I don't have to say, yeah, I'm going to get the

name in the story of M.A. And how do you think he gained the Patriot? The war is a lot of a lot of

a lot of Patrick, I don't, Patricio, you know, the strategy, you know, you know,

to play in the game to the game of the game of the hand,

the hand, the hand of the It's a guy very expert. But I confine on Clever, he's training a lot of

in the part to the trocaation, to take care and I think the same thing. I think the confidence in a tracation,

is training some goals special different, you know, to normal to be able to to use in the hour of

the lute, but the confidence no way to no, no, 100 is of jihits.

You, just let me to be sure, you have plans even to go to compete in

judic, the lute in rugby, in submission, or or now, even more as a champion, it's impossible to find a space

in agenda to make a camp, for a, for a lot of a rap. I think just when I am a posentat. The day that I say,

no, I don't want to not want to not do that much to dojitso, but to be in the categories, not,

not, not, not, not, not, not will be to look at the category of the girlada, no, but I

have a category of master, but, more to me I think I'm really I've got to compete Jiu-Jitsu from my five

years of age, now I see some of my competitions, see the people new are going to say,

poe, with the kind of to this guy, no, no, it's a way, it's a

doubt, and I do Jiu-Sid's I, I train because I know, I goce, so I'm going

to continue training, the Jiu-GIT and if appear to opportunity, when I'm my impover

when I'm going to the championships of the championships, the, the

the character of moment of of the same kimono is the guy that you have been in four years and he's and it's a

yeah, it's a guy that's passing the whole world yeah, what he did in a

DCC was a play in a thing, yeah, if you if you were like a post like you

you want, you want to want to revanche, not because nobody but you want to

do you do it with a redisement with a thing that was a thing that

was a person If you're going to to fight, I have to do to the better. The fogue is just a difference

of the weight. But he's not now, now when I went with him he's a great,

I think, but I think he's not the time that he's not that he's when we're

being a time a little bit about, just five minutes just, because of this

he was he was with almost 90 kilo and I batiss like 72 so,

so it was a difference of the person but I have a of this personage

that he has, he's a guy like, be a guy being a guy being a guy really, he's a guy,

he's a man, he's not to say, for us Brailleers, he is the man,

he's the man, is the number one of Sienke-Mone. He's he's got with 100, between

100 and 10 10 kills there, what is the best for a guy leaven like you

can't get him he? He's man, it's difficult. I'm, even more

he would say I'll say, have a chaves of peck, because, as a guy not so great, but, po, the speciality of the

guy is the chave of the man, but I think to be a 20 kilo, to get a little to be

a little bit more plan. Gainer on some 20 kilo to be able to do that with him a vote like a

little bit a lot to be a bit of a bit of you know, I've been I've been I've been

I've been this days Rodor Fierra and he said he said he he's all he's over

with Roger to be the more the story no same kimono. I don't remember consideration with the

conchimone because the Goddoran basically never did and the other patamara in the question

you can you think you know he's actually got the Roger is getting or is a other level

or not not long even car I think he's he's coming he's because

never never never did in the story the guy could make the I can't

make sure he went he went there, dispute the category, got a category,

went and was, and it was, finalized the final of the superluta, car, no,

no, there's nobody in the story that did it, it's like I mean, I'm sorry,

the, the Brazilian could cry, but I'm, man, don't have to say, the guy,

he's doing this hour even, because he's doing, and nobody never did. But we're,

I think, I'm, he's, now he's, but if he did what he did in this DCC,

in the next ADCC, I think he passed the Roger. I think he's, the same name, right, of Roger Grace, in the same kimono, in the part of Seenkimo,

but if he repeated this again, no, the next ADCC, gain a category, the superluta, then I think it's over, I think of it. So, who can't be,

so, no, no, the next Keeleysk, then, yeah? Who, who's at the time? Yeah,

so, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, so,

and the rest of the rest of the other, That's that I I'd like that's why we're trying to to talk a little bit with the people of Brazil not, I think the guys are not looking

so I'm looking at but I'm gladysed I'm really the opportunity and the chance. A we can't get up here with the edition of podcast I'm saying too

to meetbull, Kleber, Satoshi and an amigo Vint for the company of the same along this year the Troca-Fank Waiward

every day war on Spotify and iTunes Google Podcast and the principal platforms where you listen your programs favorites.

Don't forget to send this link to your friends and get to watch like that next to be much more. Foo!