MMA Fighting - Trocação Franca | Poatan x Adesanya 2, Retorno de Do Bronx, Neiman no Bellator, e Mais

Episode Date: February 1, 2023

O Trocação Franca está de volta com uma resenha sobre os assuntos mais importantes da semana no MMA, debatendo com o jornalista Carlos Antunes sobre a revanche Alex Poatan x Israel Adesanya, a possível luta entre Charles do Bronx e Beneil Dariush, José Aldo e Francis Ngannou no boxe, e Conor McGregor no TUF. O podcast trás, ainda, uma entrevista com Neiman Gracie, companheiro de treinos de Dariush que luta no sábado, no Bellator. O melhor do MMA brasileiro no Trocação Franca, toda quarta-feira, com o jornalista Guilherme Cruz e convidados. Trocação Franca is back with a debate about the MMA hottest topics of the week. Joined by journalist Carlos Antunes, we discuss Alex Pereira x Israel Adesanya 2, a potential clash between Charles Oliveira and Beneil Dariush, how Jose Aldo and Francis Ngannou will fare in a boxing ring, and more. The podcast also features an interview with Neiman Gracie, a teammate of Dariush, who returns Saturday to the Bellator cage. Listen to Trocação Franca with Guilherme Cruz every Wednesday to hear from the biggest names on the hottest topics in the Brazilian combat sports world. Follow Guilherme Cruz @Guicruzzz Subscribe: http://goo.gl/dYpsgH Check out our full video catalog: http://goo.gl/u8VvLi Visit our playlists: http://goo.gl/eFhsvM Like MMAF on Facebook: http://goo.gl/uhdg7Z Follow on Twitter: http://goo.gl/nOATUI Read More: http://www.mmafighting.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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And representing the M.M.A. Fighting in Brazil, Guillermo Cruz. Hello, lo, big, fan of Lukaiseum, welcome to Septuagest, a second-second, episode of podcast Trocaceau-Franca, A Suh, your house,

about this immense about the sphero. I'm Gailam-Cruis, correspondent of the American-M.I. Farian, in Brazil, and I'm going to be back in the

Newmangresi, that's the Bala Toarnie this Saturday. But, after this interview, the bat-pap is with Carlos

Antoon, the labrador human, of the channel Encarada, to talk about the about the

LUT. All right, my friend, my friend to back to podcast. Fala, my idol. It's always

a pleasure to be talking with you, with the friends, a honor to have been been invited

and it's we're going to talk about to talk about to be able to let's see. It's a great newbidate

the same the same the officialization of the revanche Poatang and Adesani and everyone had imagined

that would imagine that would happen of his history of the form how they were going to

be able to wincing and the Poatan to call the one in the last round. It's like that kind of fregued, he's a three a zero to Pua-Tan. But what you expect of this

look, man? Because not as three victories were like if it were passed the car on Adesana three times. It gave the job, especially this

ultimate. Yeah, well, it was expected, yeah, we had to know a carol had an opportunity

to talk with POTAN in a podcast, and he said that not should support this revenge, that the Adesana a manorice,

this revenge, because he was a champion dominant, he was in a lot of time in the time,

and the year of course, he got in the last, he got in the last, he got in the final,

that's the revent, so he was expected of this revanch, the pot, he was going this thing to Jamal

Rio, the poton doing a great, the people got to be still a little surprise,

but he's only a only there's just a lot of some car for the person sign this contract

with the Adesania and and do that revenge, which is the just that everyone that the

doesana it's a lot of I don't know I'm going to try to risk here, I'm going to say a

point final in this Rivalid because I think the if the other than the other than

it's a zero, two in kickbox and two MMA I think a designer will be

a million times we're trying to pick the potan again. I think really

really if the Pottah would be if the Dessane if the Dessana in immediately,

if, if, let's say, let's get, no doubt of Poetan, no think would be a

trilogy direct, it would be the Cigano and the Kainve Velas and they, like, they did

three luts because the two guys were a patamara on the rest of the division.

I think this could happen happening, but really, if the Poatan got to

the second time, it's be difficult to make a third-lute, but it's In a lot, the Adesana would have to gain

to more people and go to the top there. I don't think it would be difficult for he could be a supporter phenomenal, but really it would do a job, but

man, but when the lot, you think the Poitam, for having been been a favorite, I think, car,

analyzing the the lute in a vacuum, so, not there will have much time of difference between a

little and another for Adesani is revolutionar the game of their and get in this Luta, porth, putting a double leg,

botan to be putting the Pauotan to back back up and put up him to have to find out of him to be the same

he's not the same, making the little adjustments here, but repeating the game that he always,

but the game that's the game that does a good, that's a kind of that's a

poor, the Poatatat is much than he, he's not he's been he was a round of

he had a round of getting the Potan, so I see that, he has potential

to gain, and Irish say that, the I think Adesan enter

as a favorite even the time in New York because he he was being the

war he's like he's like the Usman and the Lion Edwards the U.S. U.S.

was going to the last he took an car and he got to the car and he was I think

the U.S. I believe that he's the same way that I think the Yerserserer will be

the other way. How is you see this question going to this quarter Loddardt

another I'm also I'm He appears a favorite, but a little, not a distance very great, I think he appears with a favoritism for all the story that he had in the category. And for the lot, he remembered well,

he, he was going to the lute, he was going to a lot, let's say, with a margin very grand, there didn't even a 10 to 8, but remember in the first round, I think the first round he gave that balancas on Pottan, that even remember of this.

So, the Dessana, was gaining, was going to, the lute, with a margin of security. But it's a lot of the game that you never said, I don't imagine the Adesan is putting

a potan to be disgasting, when he's desgasting, wanting to puttap to puttang is very great, I'm talking about

the defense of the quatton and all, but not moll to want to puttum to be able to energy, doing this, I think the

Adesana will do the same job that he was doing, I think he should do a adjust or other,

but it's the game, the Pottan, you know, Guad, the Potton, you know, know, does how much

the game It's a good well, the Potan has a badger mental, I believe,

that he just enter in this a lot of a good in a good, I think in the

advantage of the point of the point out of the front, because he got in a manner, knockoutching

the adesania, this marks, this machoca, it's a case of many ex-campions when

they're they're putting knockouts a thing, a thing maybe not back in the

most the potan doesn't the part of the part of I don't see the the lute

like a little one of the procaation, porradoria no see much not a problem

if I'm me surprised if you puttang to putt down to be so I'm not I'm

imagine a thing that I think questionable that it's that's the idea of the fact

to be the potan nocaughts he not the countering him not in

the MMA and how is that how much I think it's that's that but the NFL Rio,

how is that this was to make with him in a form that he not in a fall

he got three days he went to a quarter lute, he could be a quarter to say,

but it's more easy, it's a more easy, I'm sure, I'm, I'm, what you

know, because if we remember, you're going, say, there are, saying, there's,

poor, in the, poor, it's, it, it, it, I know that not that I'm not

I said before the last of the fight before I was this doesn't make difference that I got got him he's done two times and I'm

going to cross the my arms and boy he will dismaying in my front will get get it doesn't know he's always evolving, progreding

and I think he's every every he will be better so I have also I have to be better than my last one more than to be a lot to

because it's a Lutatura. But for you, Carlin, you think that, you know, it's a

not enter in the head to start to come to get a lot of the because he's a lot of you know,

or you think it's a risk that can't not intentionally because he could look at all every time

we'll pass some months there, probably everybody remember that three to zero for him,

will be everybody will be all the South America you can can't probably

can't maybe maybe I see the Botan very tranquil, very focused, we've had an opportunity in the FCRI,

he was here, he was here, he was here, conversed with you, and conversed with us, the question of you have a number of Adesania,

many say, that if you're to fight 10 years with Adesani, you get 10 times, you know, and then he said, the fear,

me didn't in alert, he knows what he said, he said, if I'd if I'd enter with this head,

thinking that not could be would be would be, but I'd that I can't lose so I'm going to

I'm going to I'm in a question I think that's I think the I think the point that's he's a guy he's a guy

kind of a guy kind of a guy very focused very centered and there has a lover there's helping him

a guy very different to put him put him on the I don't see the potan on the

oh no I'm going I'm going to I'm going to five I think he's like he he has a

confidence to know I'm I can't get this car not the that thing, I got

I'm going to all right, it's all protocol, I'm a lot of protocolal. I think he will enter

with a confidence of the champion to have been the rival, but in alert saying that the first round

in that could have been made all the so he's not the house can't

come out of that I understand that's a little favoritism nothing of other

but that he's a favorite in the M.A. P.M.A. to

rematch. But what the poppits? Yeah, a palpit he's just a lot

it's a long as it's a what's what's what's the situation you see that's

difficult yeah, complicated, not guisangxon complicated but but in a lot of

a lot of a bit of a thing I'm saying to say this lot but there's time to the

time time there's in January I'm just in April but I think this this lot

not will not be going to be decided by point I think I would have to to invests to put the

we're seeing for what we're talking about here in the question mental question of I'm seeing a victory the Poton

I think the potan can make more the knockoutts to Potan in the third round I'm trying that someone can't even

I'm I also I'm I also I'm I'm also I'm going to give the benefit to the dubbara as I'm

I'm a candidate you have to respond I or not I'm I'm going to be me to get me. I'm going to

get this now. Exactly. I'm going to get a lot. But more more to the point I'm doing the

problem. I'm going to be a little long. And, car, the first look was

an a lucidant. It's a difficult. It's difficult. I'm very difficult. I think someone

can't. I don't know in five round, and it's more after after the guys were in the

one of the other, in the luva the world, the world, the world, the an experience they don't

have a experience that they don't I think they're going to adapt to this second for this second Luka in a and much a lot of the

time. I'm anxiouso to see that yeah and the game. Because the two are the two are the

other guy more not in a attack, the Potan buss, but it's a very long that can't

maintain a distance, but they're they're going to be that he's not not be that that's

like that like, like, like, but a Desan and Romero, which was a lot of time,

the two were a kilometer distance, not will be that, so a mom will come out going to be going to be

going to be the factor emotional also be sure, I'm going to get that this guy, don't want to

get that a storyin of ah, no, I'm going to get a idea the idea of the

idea of the idea, I don't have no fear of the potan, I'm ready to get to this climate.

So, they're imagine a a lot of a monotron, a lot morena and trying to get to live for points,

I'm going to get this round for point, I don't see this form, but we'll see in a

hour there. Yeah, there's the extra of the event, have the Gibbos Durin with Marvidal,

that's a lot of that was not really trying to for a lot of this other

didn't happen, he got a little, the Niel Megney came to Rio Mekin back to

suffer now to suffer now to the Durinio and car, Magidal infrent a

phase tenebrosa he has much moral in FCC poor, inacreditable like to

for me it's surreal Madhidal still is ranked even in the middle because he

he's very good but but but he's but just but he's but he living much

of name even and I think it's a lot for Durin it's a lot difficult

to Cic but still it's a man still but the game for me

is a A game horroros to Marvidal. Horroos. The Marvidal, he has a hand pesed, but not is of other planet, and I think, for the Durin,

not think in the house of post, he will be the favorite, because he'll in account the emotional of the fan, you know,

the guy, I adore Marvidal, and I think he to get to the world, and I think, but I think the

goodyton for me to win this lot there. And if, making the strategy certain, not let me, to let me

to make the the side emotional, peasant, I'd be with a tranquillity of doing the game, I said,

not to be a lot of my time. I'm in this campaign, said that's that's the badgered,

I said, this lot of this lot of this is the lot of more, I think it's been going to

do you're going to the time, he's going the other challenge the probe, the challenge

when we got a surprise when we didn't, when we didn't ever wanted to this

The other, because the mouth is a lot that's a lot that's a lot that's a lot that's no case is no, because the Durian, along to have Jujit's of excellence, to put it to back and to work the Jujits, with a lot of Pek, he's not, he's, not, I think he's putting a lot to doggis, which is to put it to dojit's, but if Duranu, if he doesn't try, he, he doesn't get,

not a thing of other world, no, not be that a guy... No, a guy sego on a trocassau, no. Exactly, no, not be that he doesn't be that he doesn't, not have to put to back to any way, so I'm going to lose, He's not going. He will put him to the most he's not going to be. So I think

like this hype of the M. Vidal, I think it should have passed, because he just perjointed, he's got to

the head, against the Usman. Poor, he perts all the hour. And he's not with a hype, not with, I don't know

if you did this Lodagh to do you to end up, for a, for Rih Rihanna Rolfed in

a second, it's a game Ricanererer let's get to this Ripe of Bain-Vos this, I don't know

if it was the intention not was this intention of usc but it was so it was a lot of but it was very strange, the UFC, you know, because I think he not

saw he was going to give a lot of the last Vidal and I thought, carac, it's impossible I think it was the guy who will be able to get out of

Douria for a, you know, and he'll remember he and he and Romero he and poor it's like the Faber but when he had won't

a lot he'd spit off the centuron then I'd and he'd geth and he'd he'd beckes He was not credible, because it was possible that the Marvidal if he'd be able to do Durino,

even with the Olympics will be a lot. No, I think no. I think that you're a fault of respect. Yeah, I think Leonel is talking that he's

Marisdial, he'd win a durin. If he'd get a durin, depending on, well, let's get him and he'd be in a round. And the Leonelis continue the campaign

as a champion of the F. I think it's, I think it's, you'd have to, you'd have a forceada to bar and rebutt all all over all over, the car,

there's a story, that's a story, yeah, that she was in London, and all right, London's Libby, I don't know, I think can't do you, but I think it's a bit

a bit more, it's gonna be gonna get a guy on those mobejada, yeah, so perj. So, perit. And the, and the luteau and the Lourin, yeah, we'll talk about this,

because, poor, Dorin, it's all, to be able to, you're gonna, put in a good position in the category, maybe at one

a little bit of a little bit of a little, because the options there are in in the same, the, we don't know

when it's not a Pelo, the guy's going to be able to bellow, the more if the Durino to gain, so the Lurin, the lot is a

money to do you know for him, as he wants, and it's a lot against a man of a lot of hype, if he can't

get a position much good for the suntoron, the Dourin just has all to win this lot, it's a lot

a lot of a lot of it's a thing, I think it's a lot that makes, how the Durein that's with

a moral, that's a Rueh, but he's, but he's all the lot of people have the

hype and he, porr, I'm trying that the work the person is the person is a person badger,

now he's he's going to get him, he's not he he wanted to he wanted to

make a more rankiard, but it's that's that it's that I go, and that he could

be far fuling of a lot of people, he might know what we're going to happen he's in this

question of maybe subo of seven, seven, the Kobe disappeared since he took a

some soco of Marvidal in the road disappeared too, nobody knows where he's going to get to be

there's a man, he can't pass by the people getting the Mardidal to the sport the central

not that nothous that's not that because it may be much things there's

there's a lot of in London's with Wusman so I think to do you have to

get to get more more to get more to test the central but but if

nobody so didn't get to the be And, and then isking the air shorts,

right? And that thing, if the Leon Edwards vented to know of Camaro, I think the situation is much more abert to

for the Dorin, right? Because I think if the Camaro will be wince, then I don't see,

because then, the door in going to do not, it was not, but it was recent, they can't try a

Chimaev with a lot, that's a lot of a lot of a lot of being in the division,

we don't know if you're not even maybe he'd even this this lot to be this lot of

how it will be. So I think the Duri have to try for the Leon Edwards to wince because I think it's quite because he vance Dorme, I think

the way of the way to play to play a centuronon and you said he said, Nguerio, the Duri is a officer,

he's always he's always when nobody wanted to end up anyone who we've had also called him with him

with his direct with Danna with RANter with Mickman with general and he's all to everyone Manned a message

and it's that's always putting on the disposition have a good relationship. I think that this facilitates too,

for he, all the belles presentations, he's always always winning well, this good relationship he put

in the back the back doors. We're not, we're both concordamos, imagine that Durino wins this

this fight, I think he will be a finalize a medal, you think that until the end of

the end up the end up the end up the same all this scenario totally that the style of

this totally. It's will depend I think a lot of the Lion Edwards wins, I think he

has a chance to play the central this year in this year he's not the year he's not even he's not

but he will be able to last, the Lionel Eders with with Camarren so it's a good time

to the end the time he's very pretty pretty it's a mid-differences practically so it's

there's the winners of the luts, casasas to do you last of the last

the year if the Lyon Edwards Venn-N Wendettett Wenserererer can have been depending of the

battle, as he, as he's we're going to be able to be able to bathe up to a back back up

to be a doing with him I think he has been a chance of the trance. It's true. And we're

talking to other talk of the time, the issue, not was confirmed until the moment,

that we're having this podcast, not been not yet in this but there has been

news of that will, the next Tuft with Magrego as a man, I don't

think, I think that maybe this would be the only the only scenario that me would be far to see

the Tuf, there's a guy like a grego there, because I don't go into more this program I'm very

very chattive and if I if I did I see three times entire the Tuf, it

was very and it was because I had to to dof Brazil but what you would

you'd you'd you'd you'd you'd to get to get a to a

motor to a back over to a grueue or you'd be a

biggous Magrego, or not for the several some he finally

to get, he finally gore, but I think I'm going to continue to see you.

I think the one one of the person that could move this tuff. A

a firm a format that's a format that's a fact you have to

have you have to do you think the formate to the world the tuff

the people do you do, the the event there, they're there, and they

enter in the FC. But there a Connor, it's a personage unique, yeah, car. Gosting or not of him, he tries entertainment, will do that force a bar, will do give some, he'll do some he will be, if he will be the

trainer-diversary? I'm talking to I think of a very good-de-dozer. I'd be speculared if it was a Michael trainer of the V.C. I was trying to do, I was before the M. I'd have, before the M. I'd have imagined that when I'd have wanted to

to talk with more Vidal also because of hype this thing but I think the Conor he tries a thing kind of a little

kind of of a force of bar at least he can do but he's a little bit but he's a good enough

so it's a time to get to get to just for cause of the Conno if if it would be going to

do that he'd be more than he would be bad for depending on the time he will be

even front the trainer for in because he is far the when he starts the

time, he will start, he's all able to do not be able to do not in August so if the Tuf start the time in July, he will not not be in that

Card, so he will be to be in September, October, because if he would start now in August, only in August that he could be not much know if he

will be a trainer and if he was a trainer and if he was the trainer to another way, the adversary was Favier and they don't be in front after the

after the time. So, you'll know what he's going to be what you're going to

see as a future of the next and he's, in the next he was saying until Kona had gone, but not

but not he was sure he was sure he was not, but he had a different to say,

it's very difficult not, I think the Kona not Lutta more that's important. It's enormous. It's enormous, it's very

great to make a, to make a cut of a piece to do a to do not to do you

just, just, just say, Kora, you're going to be there, Kora, you know,

I think, if it's that he, he was going to do this I think he would He would like he would

be able to look at almost and he's very difficult to say he's in a middle mids like to be a

middle middle to be a category two lesers I think Michael Tiener's a lot really a lot really a lot of really style of Crosel

there's a set and I have certain he'd have toparine in any of any yeah I think yeah I think because the

Kono would not get any the guy who will want to put him to marra lute he will be a guy

of a crocation of a trocador For what I imagined the Mardis Vidal, could be a adversary perfect for him. But I think it's a Michael Chey, I think it's a

true, no, I think it's a good idea, it might be that's he's really because he's going to be back the victories. It's a guy

of a man, or who can't be a jiu-jits with a Gregor or so it can be a same, maybe he's a

thing, that Mhurtier-Gene- nobody, nobody, nobody, nobody, nobody, nobody,

but, but he won't never disputed, never defended, it's a something farhorhorri that's That's a medal

of honor, Merit, yeah, the classic. I could put this preseparate to to get a

mold, like when I'm to say, he got a two citrons and I know that I'm going to

get this porna, but I don't know if you're going to do you have a medalia to make a medalion

to get a lot of when you had a natace when you had a ten years of a sturral

you could be in a sturtian you could get a medalia a medalia yeah

a class a class a class of a class of But, before we to talk to M.A,

I wanted to ask you want to question the opinion about two two extremes of MMA that are now being

over the box now, Franz Zengannu mirroing a little with Tyson Fury. I even asked for Alex

Poatan the opinion to this question of this play with a elite there I think don't,

I don't know if you're going to try some that's difficult. It's a suicide that the guy

for he is getting to get getting, I think a pass of every way.

If he really he wants to with these guys, he'd be thinking just on

the money, not know, not see that's that's that's a thing, but I'm going to

be a champion, but it's a me difficult. And the he's going to get a

man, a general on a day 10 of February in a event of box in Chototot that will

have been for John Eduardo, against Yuri Marajor and U. U.

U.S. Maraj against the M. there a the people of MMA that will do that event

what you expect of the two I think they are they buscum things different know, he's always the old

says he can do you do that he he wants to do a career professional and he wants to create a carer

he can't be a way, how distant, how longa, it's, the career that he buskka-fazes, to be the first experience, and then, who can't get a guy with a better

a little retrospect in an event in the States and then you're and then it's a contract, you know, and Gano,

not, In Gano, not, I'm not trying the gran in the ballso, yeah, miring the

champion, the champion world, to be a test-and- and to encheer the money, what's the

more Chianina? It's the guy who can do do the superluta that will have all the fuzui

or the guy that is trying to build, to fact, a career apparently, yeah,

we've seen what the two do you know, Guil, the Aude trying to do a career, then,

and then, and then, to build a cartel, to get a rhythm, to test it even in the

box, he's just training in a marina a time, time, training, training box,

and so you're he's, he's, he can get the the most the

part of the time, and then in front, I'm in question of the ,

for we see about, what you want to see, I would like to go and get him in the future. I think it's really great. Demas

see this lot. I think the Tyson He gets in the favor. What we say in the hand of the

man of the knock on the box is another part of the movie, yeah. He's a guy he could get to get

the Tyson Fury, right? Exactly. The lube is different. The adversary is the box, it

is another thing, is also, I want to see to try trying to a guy of Renov

against a guy of the Tyson Fear. As the Poitin said, I think the Tyson Furry would

be a favorite but it's interesting. I'm in a guy against a guy of a

guy that's he's not much he's not for he tried to do it, the manner how he came,

a guy who broke for the rights and he and not he's going to get a lot of

money to do and he old and he getting these adversaries fracos

he, he is it he he can see see test and how it.

I think it would see It's nice, see the Zey Aldo trying to do a

carrear in box. I don't know where he can't get to get to where he can't

but he has a mental idea. I mean, yeah, I think he when the Aldo

decided to division, porh, he said, he said, he said, he said, he wanted to

be a career, with all- that he got, he was, he was, in a thing,

to be able, I'm, loveable he is trying to do a car to do just to

get a frang too, if you to get this frango now, this Argentino, we have to get to move

a new level, if you're going to be a car a fracko, then it's a idea, yeah,

I'm not really, I'm not that's a question of the thing, but I'm curious to see what the Aaldo does get a

good for a good in a future, he don't he's a question, he said, he didn't

want to do that thing to do you do, for re-enferent pop-up, all,

so, if youald does five lutes, I would have five luts for I'll gain a good I'd have interested to see him

because it's a big show will be a guy that made a story marvellous in the M.A. and that's some won't be

some of the front of popo I think it's interesting. I don't think that happens but I think it's even

the case the Jake Poe that's a lot of story, a guy who was another YouTube and but you see

the guy went to go to box and migrable box and he's doing both presentations and

got of guys of renome, I go do Anderson. So, poor, it's legal. If the Aldo gan of this

guy and get some push-dilistas there, that don't even be a champion world, but push-o-lista meh,

a vera, and see test it against us, I think it's interesting, I think it for him, for the career

of his career to be to test it. Even, even, even, that are in activity, and see

test, I think, it's been good, it's a question of, taking so frangue, it's chate, I think he

would be a guy to get more a guy to get, I did a lot with a pop-paw

of a ball of a good but he's a new one but he's a guy to get a guy of a

little to see how it would be interesting, yeah. With a question, now we're

to go to the last topic of our resen here, that's Charles of the Bronx and

Benio Dariush in this possibility in this being ventilated there,

I've heard that really is having negotiation, that's having a conversation,

but that never never never in this this lot that's what the Darius

he'd have a quite a time, this lot, including, it was made after the Charles

to confront the Tone Fergso Elisian's front to see to frontal, Charles came to make him to

do the last year and he was a story, disputed his siltor-s the sturted while this,

he was quieting making the people, patiently, doing what, patiently, doing what the challenge for

top and not don't the tops, he goes to the front of his job doing the doing the

and if, if, if you're a lot that's a lot of a lot of goal.

I think the Riyush Ganyu's a guy Ruhi Ganyu is very probable too,

he disputes a centuron but I don't see if it can't to crava because the category

can't to know what the those, the times and movements from the but how you

think you think you this possibility of Charnes and Darius you, you think the best the

best option for the challenge to the challenge in the I think the is a lot that

is a lot that does make sense I think it's a much, the Charles has passed

for this for what Daru's so I think Daruice is being a lot people,

who he can't he'll be able to Porier could be E.C. Mottes

Darius Guillaultes with Fizierve Mekh Michael Chendinner who's got to get him,

he's the Jarnes de Degon of Deng-D Degon of D'R, so it is a

to be made. I think that's a lot of way to do a lot of to do Darius with Chars. It's a motto be dangerous for Chars. Many people are saying that the Guarroo is a lot to be able to pass a caro. I think the motu is a lot of difficult. Darius, have evolved a lot of lots, trained with Raphael Cordeaux, there's a show very legal.

The Chalice, we have to see how he will see how he will go back, which was a a derrota much dula for Chars. But it's a lot to be made, I think it's interesting, I think the the winner, dispute of the cintedonon. I don't see that happens a catastrophe in Bokanovs and Makashchev,

Volkaner who gained in Makashev, because I don't believe that will happen, I think the Makashir will gain. But the Makashir, I think, I think, in front the menaceador of Daru and Shalach. I don't know if the Porese, if the Poresever, if the Makhashov and say, Poh, I want to confront the Poreoreer,

now. Then it's that story, yeah, Guil, the champion. With that in that way of the way, Kono, goes, and he wants a tuff, and he wants to go to someone, and he wants to go to 7-0. Exactly.

The champion has power. And the Macachev has very hype, that's the thing of Khabi. So the FCC will make the the same kind of

the only risk of the vizzer of Charles and Darius in the hospital the centron this happened something that's

on the way the Kahnhe did Porye or Kona to come in this mehuis and the Kahnit with that rivalities with

Khabib I think so so in a scenario normal, all happening all happening all right the winner

of Chalels the Lutchev with the big problem that me It's the people who subestimarynged because he is an

excellent lotator I think he's quieting, for he not not do not do you do you know that's people who forgets and that

people who are not remember those people think it's a lot fast, car Darius not a lot of he has a

trocaation he has a russie he has a guy very complete very hard training with Raphael Cordeer that's the

world of the world are circled of people very good and it's a guy that's a job

the chas not can't try to get a bobe because as like the Marachev he is a

guy that we can't get back on a chalels that is a thing has been happening in the

he's not going to get to get back the breaks of a game that he

is a guy that he go to he's he's not he not he not he not even

he's not he's not he's not he's a thing that's he's not he's for me he's

he was a he was he could be said, said he's said, but he's so that's a rapid

that's a way, it's a very much, he's a question that he would be he would be

how he will be a work that he will be the next interview the podcast is with the

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Please enjoy responsibly. Product availability varies by region. See app for details. Do you have Neiman Grecy, that this sabbado, that's the daughter, Dundi, Chiro. Not was the adversary original, but what important is that you're with a lot that marked, how many of those things. Meant's the expectation of this, for this, for this walk,

at least in the year, my name. Ben, it's good , I'm happy to be working

there's starting the year now with a with a combat there

so you know you do you you know you're a time

you're with the expectation to you're getting the

chance to the title but the last the

last not that not were you're I'm the

guy championed after then you how this mess with you how you how you

enter for this the fight in the expectation to do the time yeah exactly that's

exactly that it's not it's a part of the sport right sport is so it's we're in

time we're in we're in important to not start and continue and continue

still trying and try and do the back for the

sport in the sport in life that is the thing it's more legal that's the

thing's the good, it would be a good, and when it's a thing not a little good,

so I'm not, not a little and it's top and death, sob and does, it's part of the life, and it's

that's the great-grap to do a form of pressure, yeah, to put on the

back on the cost, to have to have been to be able to get to more than, so,

how you're, how you you try to use not like a pressure and, and, so how you

use this moment that you're doing mentally in the preparation to the fight? I think

everything in the way that we see the things, so if I put a pressure and get a way

that I need this this is I just go a lot, I just go to what I'm what I said,

it's an opportunity of me to me to prove to me me even, that I, that I can't do a walk for

over over the time, I've done a walk over over the same other times. So, it's a opportunity good, an opportunity legal, to be able to show to me even, that I can't superer

anything. So, I'll have this opportunity there, to, to go back with all. And what is, your fight, prova? You're obviously, you always, you know, P, everyone's

always, ever, you ever to see the Jiu-Git, you were showing the the trocaation in the last last few times. What is the plan is going to go to the

real-to-as- to do-jitsu or continue misturating, making the M.MA and mostering more the other than your

trocaation too. I think the plan is a lot more to the right, I never did

the raises, who never who may be training, you know, that I'm always never living

the train in the the but it when I'm there when I'm I go so

the I love so I go, how I'm going to I'm going to I'm going to if you see all the same

these are always these are always long as a lot of chata but I think this time I'm going to try with more

intelligence, use more the case and I'm going to get a lot to where I'm I'm going to I'm of the

world in that area there and is that I'm going to try to do that's my time in September

he was finalized What you see of the game of his, you think you think the really the jujitsu is an arm ideal to you get to

get him, he's a finalization in the career but I don't imagine that's a level grace, like, the level Neiman Greys.

So, I think if I could get a lot to the ground and do my style of Jiuits,

I think I will, I can get the majority of the people in the MMA. So, with

my is this, is to leave a place for where I'm comfortable, but he is a guy

a man, and today everyone knows all the whole nobody knows, but if you see the last his last

he was getting he was getting well, and it was being a finalization very local that I never

never seen in the life, so it's it will be a lot to be a lot of

a lot more and I'm going to finalize. What's the What's the last time we've We've said

The last week we've Before the last Last month You're going The Jason Jackson There's A lot of That's a

A lot of This, because he He wonceal Doug Gagin in the last What's the

objective Where do you expect To be I'm in the ranking with the Bela-Doh

with that VIII I'm I don't say to talk to the ranking is a weird

So the ranking is a bizarre Yeah, bizarre for But it depends But it depends Much of the way you get

The way you get So, I'm a super Victory, I'm I'm a super-votra I'm gonna do an armilocks-voado on him And porchog, and it'll

be a victory that everyone will be, will be put in a place, if I go there and win a decision

divided in a luta super chata, you will be put in other place, so it depends how the

lot will be fluing there, and I'm hope then with Armilok Boadadad-

This is the type of course that you train, like, so, like, imagine that, po, a, a guy with your experience in jiu-it, this is, there not a time, imagine that imagine that's a bit of a while, but what is the probability to put a porth of this in practice in a lot of the M.A. I imagine that it's even more difficult than, it's even more difficult than you do with you consider in kimono, because, I don't know,

because, I don't know, a pegad, a thing. Yeah, no, it's more complex, no. Yeah, it's a much more difficult, but it's a, It's a thing I don't train always, but it's always there's always in the fund of the manga there's a thing

I do with, I like to bring up with this and other finalizations, so if there's a opportunity there without a sombre of doubts, I tend,

but not that we're always that we're always trying to want to be able to this card will have been a probable despid,

I'm not the caravack will be disped despite and it's being promovied because, but, but,

always a MMA, always always will be able to know to know, but I'm a lot of

time, I've seen the time I've been to have been to be the postatorial of his but it's

being sold to this way, that's a way that would be a media as a champion,

even that we've never recently, the Glover Techeera he's dispedial, per Dement,

a dispute Cuntor on the Rhee, but the guy most the car most the car most the car most

the person, he was the Fedra, he'll be a link, and Ryan Bader by the Centanons the Pesado?

How is you, a guy that does part of the family, that the realese of the sport, see this last one of

Fender, and do it do part of this cards too, now? So, I've put, I've done in some

other cards with Fender, he's always very many because, he's one of the best of the time,

it's a guy that we see a lot in many many years, and the lot, it's difficult

to say, Pether, he's always that he pongo with a that he can't

he can't if he he's he's he's he's he's so he

he's he's he's always he's he's he's he's I don't

I don't see I know I think the he's he's he's

but the faderer is the faderer is he's and so if you're trying

a business when we're getting It's going to go and we're always thinking that does it do again,

we're going going to do, and we're also always you're always we're used with this style of life,

of training, of the lot, and to you're going to live a life completely different,

it's very difficult, so it's so it's, it's difficult to say, it's a last,

but I think yeah, but, it's be great to this card with him, and I'm,

I'm, I'm, all the that I luteed in the same card I could wince I'm able to

I'm trying to get a heatse the octagon the octagonal the key to circular for him man he

waiting or and I'm getting or per maybe it's a good lot of not the last time he

he confronted he was two years it was it was a form the formula it was

yeah even for for an after the when this happens it's bizarre because

you train three months to get to get in some seconds it's

not not imagine the frustration but just for just for just to let me

I'm I'm a friend you know a friend of your who's there

rumors and possibility to be the Chalves and Brons that's the

yeah that's running a that could happen in May how

how is this expectation there this opportunity he's he's

he's he's he's asking when he's when he was He did he almost

really rolled before the Charles to turn a champion and finally it seems like it's a

part of this is a lot-upon to Ben and with Charles here in the academy we don't have

nothing Charles and so everybody the academy got much of him he

for he's kind of the same he came from the shoot-box as like the master

Raphael Cordeer the master Raphael also but there's

no there, there are two guys are to have been

in front there. But I think it will be a luthon because the Charles

always does a loton, the B. N. also always does a

lot of good, but I think it in the victory of Bain there.

The Bannie has Jiu-Gitz to neutralize the charles, he has wrestling to to drop and neutralize

and I think in the trocation there's a lot of a lot of a lot of but the B'N

also can't be so it's so it's will be a And we're waiting

to see if this will be so it's going to get this the next the next

the BNion will be to look for the title. The Chalice is a guy that

is very very difficult on the show, obviously the guy who

has the family in finalizations but he not a finalizable he, he was

for Marachev in the last was more a knockdown he was in various other

Lodd he's he's he's he's he's specialista of How is you could

evaluate the game of imagining that would would be with the jujitsu, purely simple

the jujitsu, the jiu-jitsu of one and the other are different, the Jiu-Sih to the Jiu-Sys is a jitso

more of bot so what happens he, he goes, he has various finalizations in the manga like he

like a guillotina a triangle, millions of things. And the Benn is different. He is a more

that he want to he wants to progress more, he your guard, mount to try to

to try to finalize. The Charles he's he's trying to do that's always a little

in a little in a period. Because for trying to try to he's so much, so I

think that can be a point that the B'N can try try to try to try to

the strategy to try to progress to try and who can't even know to finalize

he. You think this this is a lot because as how Marachev, he's, of

the when he when the charles he went to the porier the jason gate are

guys who did a knockdown on the charles but that not were to the chalels because not he's

not he's a guy that he's a guy who has he's he will make a he will make

time to he don't have to be to say he go to the car he's per he's per

the guy confi on the area in a area in theory would more favorable for Charles, I'd say the

major arm of Charles, the most force that he has, also the more the thing the thing that he has this style of his style of

to go and see in the look at he'll see what he does, he's going to go to the front and see what he does.

And as well he's a guy who has a jiu-jit, has a trocan and has a wrestling to try to

have to get to attack, so I think so I I think if Beny had the

intelligence and he has shown that he has been in the last, I don't know how the other

he came in without he's in his victory but he always with much a caltella

because the Charles is perigosiss and he also he can finalize a knockout

this lot at any moment so man so, he see the

he's very very many because you get always in the he will

come with the what will he will happen he He took a knockdown, he does a knockdown, so he's a guy

very nice to see, it's a lot-old, maybe the luteau-you-a-luck-the-counter. And you think that until the end of the year, he takes the centauron of the FC? There's a little incert to the Volcanobs that he will sub-died to category to disputing the centauron,

so if he gets me a zone-ed, because a guy who has two centurons, congestion, or something, but you can't even the end-the-one, the 15-M-6, will have a signetron in the FCA We can't

we can't not be able to not to prevy the future even more being treated from the FSA and A White

that one day thinks one day thinks one other day is thinking another day, it's going to we think so he

winsending this battle the end of the final of the end of the winner with the other guy

we think we're thinking and we're expecting this signtouron just has been very very time. But

we know that there millions of things that can happen not that Gregor can can't return. You never see what the Danna did with the love. Two other other guys lutted by the centuron, and then didn't go back to what happened. He said,

no, who's going to, no, who's going to look, now, it's the Glover and the other there. So, you think in that kind of, manmama, as sport, even has much to gulgare to get the things more certain, so it's still

a show. So if you try on the show, I don't see the future, yeah, who's the

signoron with Darius on the UFC, have a signet with Neiman Grin this novelator? Yes, this is the

idea, we're always we're always looking this and, as I'm it depends of all the

lot, and how it will be the world, and how it has a front, and it's

that we're that we're that we're that we're to be we're going to we're doing this time this month

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