MMA Fighting - Trocação Franca | Rafinha Bastos fala de UFC, Whindersson Nunes no boxe, e mais

Episode Date: August 10, 2022

O Trocação Franca chega a sua 50ª edição com convidado especial! Nesta semana, o podcast recebe o humorista Rafinha Bastos para falar sobre sua paixão por MMA desde os primórdios do UFC, os maiores momentos que viveu como fã do esporte e como foi atuar no filme de José Aldo, a entrevista a Joe Rogan, analisar a ascensão de Charles do Bronx ao estrelato, e muito mais. Na sessão Fight Week, as entrevistas são com Bruno Blindado, Neiman Gracie, Goiti Yamauchi e Matheus Buffa. O podcast recebe, ainda, o jornalista Vitor Freitas, para uma merecida homenagem ao lendário Leandro Lo, lutador de jiu-jitsu morto no último final de semana. O melhor do MMA brasileiro no Trocação Franca, toda quarta-feira, com o jornalista Guilherme Cruz e convidados. Trocação Franca reaches its 50th episode with a special guest! On this week’s program we welcome Brazilian comedian Rafinha Bastos to discuss his love for MMA since the early days of the UFC, his best moments as a fan of the sport, acting on Jose Aldo’s biopic, Charles Oliveira’s rise to stardom in Brazil, being on Joe Rogan’s podcast, and more. Then, this week's Fight Week segment features interviews with Bruno Blindado, Neiman Gracie, Goiti Yamauchi, and Matheus Scheffel. The podcast also welcomes jiu-jitsu journalist Vitor Freitas in a tribute to late BJJ legend Leandro Lo, who died tragically this past weekend in Sao Paulo. Listen to Trocação Franca with Guilherme Cruz every Wednesday to hear from the biggest names on the hottest topics in the Brazilian combat sports world. Follow Guilherme Cruz @Guicruzzz Subscribe: http://goo.gl/dYpsgH Check out our full video catalog: http://goo.gl/u8VvLi Visit our playlists: http://goo.gl/eFhsvM Like MMAF on Facebook: http://goo.gl/uhdg7Z Follow on Twitter: http://goo.gl/nOATUI Read More: http://www.mmafighting.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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on M.M.I. FIREA in the Brazil. I'm preparing a program special to commemorate a mark of 50 episodes of a podcast that surged, but who gained the world and it's very pleasure to produce

to my 15 fieles the audience. The program of today has been as a great convidate a humorist Rapin Abbas an appasom but I don't

could start without before a homage to the most the major names of the story of Jiu-Jitsu, that us left out of tragic in the last year-Noburned Lohr, was eight-based champion

World Jiu-Jitze, conceded titles, gained the majoros gained the majoration, but no it left him too much, for the babaca with an ego-ferred and a arm in the law. I don't want to talk about this. I'll rest

to us to user, for that the justice faxed a part, but in re-rembroughed the great man, athlete, that was Leandro Lowe. For this, I came here my friend, Victor Freitas, the VF, Communica, one of the major authorities of the journalism,

of jujitsu, and amigos of long-data of Lua, to test a homage that the Lua merits. How is you are, my friend? It's difficult to talk of a notice about this. Leandro Luh, idol of a generation.

It's one of the few athletes that you see that even who even perdeed to him, was prestoning an ammage and was really chatea. Because he was a character charismatic.

Everyone who was close and we was taken with a surprise with this not a notice

tragic and now we have to maintain the legado of him about the things we've lived

with him and he did he was going the his best his future

to be the champion world for the year and

he's winning the Isaac also who was he's your way,

that came to project social, prehist a homage to Lowe also. And we're

seeing that this news that's not really, you know, many people know, people,

who he was, the Leandro Loh, because he was so have a good, and I had a good things to

a guy, so special, so the side of the other than the time, cobringing the career of him,

and we know in the Jiuisso, is, if the MMA has been a, This is even more, you know,

you have a proximity with an athlete for being a sport of niche and not have great vehicles covering, all the athletes, know, know, who knows who are the guy

that's there's who's got to be able to, so it's not, it's possible, it's not a relation personal with these guys, and who were the lo, the guy,

the same guy that was, I was, to train, Jiu, and who'd not, not,

didn't, not, not, didn't, who you, who you you've seen in an intimacy with the

friends of the time he was a man he was a person very simple you know the pleasure

of his he was he was really really intensely was a man you was a

very time for a cause of a defrava he'd he reclamed the life he

he wastable to be with the friends he was he'd be trained about

he was a guy was he was a guy was a I think this

the differential of his charisma, this desire to live, to be always and this cativable many people, it was a legal

to be he, I never see I never saw I never see the negate a one interview with who he would be in the

championship, he'd talk about as he'd be known as many years, I think this caused a shock,

cause a shock to the people when he'd he'd be able to he'd be known to if he

had to know if he had to the status that he had not the knowledge

of the proportion of what he represented for the he was so a real

to be a medal a more a more a victory a more not not was

not was he he was a fancied for the landro lo for this

this simplicity and when when we was out of the guy that a guy that would go to go to

the praia conversar much about the Jujits and study much about the Jujits to say, I'd like to say,

I'd like to dancear a lot, so that had a festes of end of a year, Natal,

viral-a- many the dances of his, he always with a family, he was a

man, he was a kind of to say, and do a rollet with the friends,

he was a man, he was a man from the man and with the remand of his so it was

a man who would be a person that was a person that you would be that could live with you

the time all the you had to be a man of this car was a energy and you'd be a rio

and for some minutes some hours you'd get to some problem the differential

of his car the the degree that he was the person was a person was a

person was a man was a You see that today is very difficult you get to get up to a guy of the FC, for example. And the Charles, the Bronx, is doing different of this. He is very accessible with the people,

so. So the same proportion that he has, in Jujit solo, was two, three times more than that. Because the contact is very much more more than in the MMA. So it's, it was a hell of very strong. So it is that the people

they've started the day was very very wrong for the community everyone

cancelled all that had to do you do you know the event the Ruz

No one but so the people was very euphoric how would be

if it had happened this so have lived with

Leandro Lou I remember when I was when I started

to be reporter I didn't I didn't work

in no vehicle I went to the gymasio just to see the Leandro Loh

to look the way he made he made and I posted a photo with him

when we when we came to see it was in 2011 that he gained

World Pro in Abu Dhab and in 2012 he he came to get

a many many many different and it was always

the same simplicity it one of of the things that I always said, I said,

I'm going to the athlete to work the media, know, but there's a very difficult you're very

difficult you're being with this or you don't see, that is the charisma, when you have a carism,

you can't the grace of the people. The gymas the people would be, the people would be

a photo, to be to take a photo, to talk to be there, I'd like there,

so, there, there, he was and will continue to be the community, to the Jiu-Jitz

he who's he's supered he came to a project social, formed many great champions that live in

the Jiu-S those United so the legate so on what he gained in Jiu-S going to go much

a way, you know? So he was really a person very special, very much really,

you who are an athlete that cobre MMA, you know that the proportion of Mide

is very different in relation to Jiu-S and chocked, many the athletes of the MMA. This for me, I see actors global

to be indignated with this. So you see, he really fured a bowl. And not was because he had he conquests, he conquests the admiration of the people by the way simple

of his, you know, he was the Leandro Lowe, but he would have to be like to see like you, that had

the same, and that to your side there. So, this, it marked much this simplicity

of him. I remember of one a first that he was a copapod he was being

patrocinated for a market and this mark is a much famous in Brazil and he had

got to get back the casaco and I put this casac for him I took

a photo with him with a little people people people I'm

not I'm going to you know you're you're always always always

take a biton for you take a photo he

he won more a more a title. And this fact that

happened with him was in the same Dynas where he gained, the title of the Copa Pod where he

got he had victories on BJJ Stars. So, so, it was a per day

for a community. Much thing, a lot of what you who came the

ascension of him to the time he could get to get to finally

the Worldial in the Worldial in the Fach Pachachach what he

an athlete so different, so so special compared to those others of the generation of their there. Some two things that I admirer very in him as an athlete. One was the how resilient

he was, because you, after you, thence, and start to get to continue there, even without

having to prove more nothing, to get the top of the new, the top of the new was impressive. He was,

everyone said, oh, Leandro, Lo, no, no, no need to more than

L'Hu no need to not even to try out of him, he was in he was in he was in

a manned, we'd have, he had been that he was very can't be, he'd be able to a lot,

he'd be able to he, Leandro, we don't think, more in this your face

to say, he's, I'm thinking, I'm thinking, I'm like, how you're like, it's,

it's, and you're two minute you explode that there's a gas that we didn't not see in you and you you'd put it to work. Jiu-jitsu of his always was creative the passages of guard

dynamica of his, the raspage that he had when he'd lot was a lot of a piece of levy, we saw him doing. The luts memorable of him with Michael Lang, Lucas Leppre, Kimman Cornelis,

one of the major invalides recent that he He was with Herbert Santos, who is another athlete that's also a

other athlete he's a really a realtor also be able things that were things that were the Leandro Lowe

he resisting to a leglock justiccissom that the Ebert applied on him this the car

you see that he didn't feel that he was there was in a gymasio loted and all the

whole world of you greating the name and he was with the major naturality.

I consider the Leandro lulled for the people the popularity of Neymar that is for the football

for the Brazilians. He was the N'emar, you know, where he had a where he

was a national a new differential with a lotator talented of much

Jujitsu very beautiful to see so, so it all the events

were to have him present because he had a thing that you

He talks, of the more a piece, the guy did this story, the guy, the guy,

he won't the guys that he won't the carer's that he could have done a little time,

so the guy, he had 10 years, he did, the age of the age of

the the time he was he never got to he never to get in a zone

of comfort not, no, I gained this is my piece, he could be maybe

make a career in the same, he could get a sub-s, let's

go, BOR, try to to gain more in other peso. He he was he's

a he's he recently the Mika Galvon that's another phenomenon

that's surging with a potential enormous to be the idol of Jiu

this the guy a character he's a characteristics that the Loh have

had, it had charism and fast access to to try

the people all the people all the Mika have and

him and Mika lutored on B.J. Stars, and the Mika divulged recently that

he had a cord assigned to give a revanch to Lowe. So, would be a

lot-on in the next edition of BJJ Stars. The Lua, there had

more five years of the lot of the high level between the adults.

He was a guy who trainable much, he'd trainable much, it

to do much difference. There a story a story I was hilarious

of him I'm in in 2013 even in 2013 even in Tijuca Tennis Club Jiu Jiu Jiuji is was growing

the popularity not this question of media transmission all live we were on the Rue Open

in an absolute for you have you have to have philip preguisa john gabriel and leandro loo no

the same day he he wentse the preguise in the semfinal joan gabriel in the final in a category went to

the finfo before before he and i and arthur my partner of reportage in the

we went we went leandro loo bebbing a coca two litro with a poton of

i'm you don't know no no i've been absolute of a little and he

looked it and you say, car, it's possible it's a man, he could have

to batting a pratton to get a little bit of coffee to look this way,

velox, with a guard aberta, taking pressure of John Gabriel

that is a person, and you say, man, really, God,

really, God, he's really, he was he was a bit a phenomenon,

Leandro Lowe, was a phenomenon was the first title absolute that he had

conquisted in the IBJJF in that year. It was the first of him in the Fache

Preta. And I also I had a maceet to interview the Leandro Loh, no.

If you were to interviewer Lando Loh after the year he would be to be

a form short because he would be able to come to come to come I was

one of the one of the one about to interview him after he he

we're going to do do it I said, no, you can't you'll go to you know a little bit of morning, I'd like to

start a interviewist, I'd like, I'd like to ask you. Then I'd be with those questions. It was a macchia in the car, yeah?

Exactly. And the interviews rendiaeal like five, six, eight, ten minutes. And the

guy, how can't say, how can't talk with Leandro Loh? I said, I said,

we're we're our maceite. Recently, we're making, another interview that not happened

and he said then you know, I can't me can't me I'm able to you

in the interview you're my fere there, we'll mark and unfortunately

this not not happened but in my memory are good good memories

I'm was been by God for for having been

an miso with the jitos a guy that

has many many messages year he to Like a

friend, he said, oh, me, my friend, po, no, no,

he'd be here a message, he'd call, he had all this preoccupation if he

not could be able to you not think that he not were you're not

he was so, or something, he was very preoccupated with his amazages of his

he's, this did much difference in his career of his this, this,

he was a man, he was a man, now, now, he's not

more he's, what, he's define the career his career as a leader

like he could even if you think to you're like to think in the guy who

he's he'd get got the Roger Grace with a brao he's

he finalizing the jackar in a matalian and each people

have the but there's the that's a lot that the

that's that's that's that's marked in the country like

the the the question what what was what was

for you the the the fight that define the Lowe. If you're thinking the moment that defines the

career of his victory, or at this not the result of the man, what is the great moment

for you in the career of Lowe? Yeah, Lando, Loh, the fact of he had been to

have been the end of the end of categories different, are a fact markant, but it

will be in the memory, though, in my vision, the luts that he

did with Kina Kornelis, that at the time was trying to rasp all the

guard laasada he could read very well this game the American

and when the media was whether the American will be he will be

he will go he'll go and he continued he

the the he the the other the other

the other he did he did A fact markant also in the career that we're probably not

will see, nobody is the act of Boucheshita do the title absolute to him, by the fact

of he's been in the dispute of the category and in the other year he had to get the

final and done the title to the Bchecha also. So, these things

me very a lembrance so, and the form of he lute and the

way he tap that he and he'd have pulled a alt-and-and-a-alt-and-pren to enter on tatam. This here was the mark the characteristic of his, to do a round-and-co-bracso-abber.

This-a-lawed. You see the athletes young, kids, everybody repeating the fact of his commemoration, the way to enter in the fight, he was

too, the guy who will be to be a name marked in the story, it's all those amazages, this here, this is a manage, poor,

a little, but it's a homage that we can't let's to let's pass to Leandro, before all the last what happened in the last time.

Thank you in the podcast and you're a very close to him. The guy who's a guy who respirator, so much more than I

do you know, I've lived much in this batida of Jiu Jitsu also. And I'm to say to

talk about this this turbilion of emotions that were these last years for you and all the

all the world of Jujitsu. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. for presence more one one way in the podcast. And with

certain will be about about about about about the things in the future too. Thank you.

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. For you, for cede a space for a person who

marked a generation that will always be remembered. I think now probably he should go to

hall of the fama of Jujits eight titles the world in a fact of the yeah, it's

a question of time of the time of the way of the role of the yeah influence

it influenced many many the influence of it not just Brazil it was

global you see that the London the American Lute

MMA of Belton post a menack for him too many

many people um am love Leandro L so so

I could say to Leandro Lowe as as

an athlete that he was a a privilege to

me, I thank you for opportunity there. Thank you, my friend, my friend, my friend, and now we

want to the programation normal of podcast, the episode of today, as I said,

an episode special of the 50 episodes of the 50 programs of Trocace

and we have interviews with Neyman Grace and who

see on on Bela Tour, the Lott there

has Matthews Buff who is in the BFL and the

PFL, and the PZ that's a optogono after the Luton that he did with Alex Kotton on the FC

this Saturday but we're going to go to New York to the great interview special of the day with Raffin Abas

Dut. The other side of line now we we have a humorista, a YouTuber, journalist, an actor and

podcast and Raffin Bacheon Bachebion. I don't know if I'm getting some this is a good on the podcast

a friend welcome, but then you're all the question but you're all right all right all right

It's a pleasure to participate and talk in an issue that me interest that I'm a MMA, I always I'm very much too, I'm going to

I'm going to be with you. Kate's on Twitter, the digital series a much time, no end of now you know how you

know how you know, I'm gonna that's more more than more 10, 15 years ago, I'm talking

with you talking many times, you still have time to see, you still have of the events, as you actually.

I see, I assist, the major part of them what I do a lot I don't post much,

so, you know, I'm a little more active, but I still do do you

do much, I'm always, practically every event I see when there a man-card that me

that me interest, I, I, I, I'm, I'm, I'm,

I go the event and assist after, like, Luta for Lutta, I'm looking the lot, now.

Today, there's more possibility, you know, to see the event before, there's service

John Demand to give just the newtrak so the you can see, so,

I'd be, I'd be, sat down, sit down, six hours to assist each one of the events.

So, this this, I don't have more time, but it was it

was it, like, it was the event, and was, disligable cellular,

computer, because, too, because, sometimes, you know, can't see, I want to see after the end

the internet, this cartooning who got to lose. I'd a little of the stories, when I was the events

on-vivo, but I still see, I'm just, I'm going to be a different to be fun of other

sports, for example, if you go out of football, I doce, botafo, so he's

going to go to play two times for a month, I know, I'm going to

get a one, you can't see, if you want, you will see

a courier and it will go to one hour and two hours if you go to see an event

of the end up in it's a time in it's not it's not a set of time of the

fan if you go to see all all the fact of the other events yeah

yeah that's now more more frustrating than to the audience

that you have to expect to come the event and and look there today

in this episode in the time the people the guys were with those

with those events in the island, there was an event direct, there had a facility they could, they could, was in the

whole, so the guys were with more agility, the guy, more frustrating than for who who can be

for an athlete, the guy to have to have to get to get to get to a while,

so, the guy does a lot that comes in 30 seconds, gaining or

getting or I'm going to be a job, the guy does camp during months to put up at a time, a man

pick, the guy, the guy says, oh, I train me, I'm ready, I'm ready,

I'm a and I'm and I'm have to be to wait six months to be to be

good, like the guy is very physically ready to get to get to get to the room, so

so it's difficult to car. The people, the people, they have a, I think the,

the world is very unjust with the athlete of the NBA. Because victory and a lot of a bigmns

not as some of the sports, man, the car, in football, it's very difficult,

a team ruin in a team good in the football. Basketate, practically

impossible, a team a team win, a team good, but in the M.

You're not wanting, nobody who enter in the ring and know know a knock on a

single, a shot that gets, you can't get in a pundra in a couple of the

times, yeah, fuck, surprises absurd and the guy, and it's a lot of

years and years to recuperate. We're we're going now, uh,

uh, uh, long before the event of the Pania with the

with a band that's a thing super super One is absolutely superior to other, but you imagine that it's a thing, for

how long time? They've got to do a reality show, you know, to get to get a realty show, so it's a lot. So it's a lot. And this lance of derota and victory in the MMA has a

more than the other sports, because you see, a campground Brazilian of football, the Palmeiras, go, we'll, we're in-fretto-Bragantino and he'll end, Toma to 5-0.

The semester next he got got three games, he's a champion, and nobody can't be able to five to zero.

In M.A. Amanda Nuz did to get to Julianna Penh? You know, if the people even will see the

amount of the more of the time, because she's because she was that was the first of the other than

when the ruling of the result that you do you know, I'm going to tell this

here, I mean, I did I did the film of Jose Aldo, I did a character of the film

of Jose Albo and I we were to start the film of Zheald and he was like

so, brother, vowing, running, winning of all the man, and he was

a man he would a month after the question a month and a month and a month and he was,

in 14 seconds, I remember until today that was like, we were on an event, everyone was assisting the the whole whole

the whole thing and the whole people came to me and ask us, the guys came to ask to me to ask you, it was just going to make an idea,

I don't know to say, man, it's just it, it's just. It's, he continues being the major of all

the time, probably will recover very probably will get a career long, but how how is you will launch

the film with the called the the major was the most the most the world more of the world

how you it's more more than you like the world more than you more than you how you can't how you

this film a month after a day not was a one of a war it was a event that

it was it was it was you know the name I'm the Frank Edger

the got the he got the end of then they ran a movie but

obviously, you had this thing that the guy had been a child continues being the major

and the time of the man of the man at all this is absurd a case a very unique but in that

moment, see just how it's a fact, imagine you that you will just let me

know, he didn't make a mean, it's really, it's funny, it's really,

mancha The guy can be a champion a Brazilian with 10 derotas. An athlete with 10 derotas it's got

with a career legal. Not is a guy who absolutely invencive. No, the other

team is champion. I mean, without, that's a guy, the guy perj in a quarter,

the domino he's got the moral. The final of the interviews, generally, is,

the football when the team he'd really, we've got a really, we've got to the next.

In the MMA the guy even says it but you see a person like the next the next

his time he will have been to be going to be going to have been a

death yeah very you know you know castigando the case

with that the story of the soco especially when it's things like

Anderson with white remember for the first you say

you say poor car came it's it went then you think,

no, there a lot. In the second, the end of it. So, so, it's a, it's a,

it's a mutuado of frustrations, so. I think the major contribution that you gave to

MMA, as a journalist, as a fan and all, acima of all, it was you

could get to get a a man 60, I'm doing two meters up to

this was a fact, Yeah, with With a certain The whole The whole Loretta Like 30 centi

Major in the Cruzeal was a A film Elevada A second Potency A great film It was very

It was really cool, car The Fonso The director is incredible It was a great It's a great

And it's It's a It's great It's great Because the The story Theodore It's really

Very It's It's a Allcus It's because all the athletes, in the States, in the States,

they have this story of the athletes who are very in the wrestling, so all of them in the college, the middle of

the country, it's a other story. Here in Brazil is a guy, you know, or you

can't, or you get the time of your life, to be working so, it's a

group that comes disperated for the success, it's the only opportunity, the only possibility.

And the case of Zeald is very this. And you're a guy that's about in stories, yeah, stories of stories of the lives, which other athlete, you think would renderia a good film,

too? Minotauro. He's like, a monotauru, yeah, our monotauru, much, much,

the Anderson, Anderson, Anderson, also, had a man, he came in a, a man,

a man, a little, a man, a little, raquit, so you see, the first the last lot of his

super, super-magued with a lot, so much structure, but at the same time rapid, a ton, for a carame. So, there's a lot of, many stories, man,

many stories. You said, the American, that has a structure of sports linked to college and all the way, you've had an

experience to live this, that you went in the States of the United to know, to study, and he jogged

basketball there, had this structure at the world in this opportunity. You've I've never

I've seen the MMA in this time, because it was before the UFC to explode there with the

2005 the first tour, you know, you have seen the sport. Before this, much before,

I remember the the story, the story of many people who started to go and to look to and the

story that, I had the VHS of the UFC 1,200, 1,0, I think with the

3 and 4 I became to see at the time that was rolling so, I don't

I can't you say how, but I have the UFCs in VHS, I remember

perfectly so I think I'm part of four, before the forum to do you have seen

a very and much in much time. Cere me fascinated this story of NMA

that I always I always I think a sport very very just

so, it's just you have two guys with the same

with the same the same the In the time, no. In the time, not not really, but like,

it was the guys were the guys are in abilities. And there something of the lot,

especially of the M.A, that I think it's very, really, really,

really strong, it's, it's to be or be knocked out. In the fund,

in the fund, I have a impression, at the most at the time, I think,

you know, you want to you can get to you, you want, you, way

to see this car caught in the final of the sort of the sort of whether you

get to get to get in front there's there's a question of your a victory of

the MMA that's a victory a derotta is a distance much great to the

other the victorio is euphoric the the derotado is absolutely depressive

of this and I thought this very really very very MBA.

So you me entrailed much the thing, the dramaticity total of the when it when it was

the FC to count the stories and the marketing of the FC started to invests

those athletes with these mini-docks that they docks I think I thought

absolutely genial because I I started to have to have the

involvement as the the the way the way the other

the other corps, you're going to go ahead and a porrida, you've been two people who you create a ligation, an empathy, right? Exactly. Here in Brazil, when they had these

the gulchitz, with the guy of jiu-gitsch, with the the guy of wrestling, you had people trying to one or to a other for a proposite. In the beginning of

the BMA, it was two corps, but it was an actual thing. You'd truce to the underdog, which was the Royce and the

guy of a meter and 75 with, I'm, say, 80 kilos, while the other guys were a giganteous. No,

it was a certain moment was a little this. The guy were very quite the same you don't know

until the Dana White assumed this story and understand that it needs to talk the story of these

cars. The marketing needs to be different it needs more than two people

than two people that we need we need that the people see embrace

one of two causes and I think this there was a very very big. More than the Tuf,

that they consider that is the great virada, I think it's this question of the market, the athletes, and when they

started to tell the stories, I think that really was where had the very of the growth of

the sport. In this era, when you were in States, there was more people, in the

votes of your, your friends in the in the time, in the States that that would

like, or you were the only exquisit-on that I'd know that's I'm not not in the

States even, even during a long time so, I don't have someone to try a

idea about this, car, because it's very in the beginning, in the beginning, you know, that had

those, those scenes absurdas like, that, Patrick, Smith, doing cutoveled

to the character on the guy, He was going to the shone. It was apagado, taken a porrado.

It was apagado and he was chutting the car, the guy of the man who's going to be able you know, you know,

the car, the guys say, the guy says that the story of the M.A. Like, the idea of Grace

initial is that around the ring, if it was jaccarat. So, so the thing was

always kind of, and I think, I, I, I, I,

I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I,

I, It's It's legal, obviously It's a sport It's organized And it's all I don't mean to Not come to

Me too Don't say to me That's a There's a There's a And it's a And it's a

And it's part The business You know, Because now Because now It's just Because of Pornado

in the car There's one in On the other Dampo Soap Soap Soap So, so,

Beleza It's not It's You know The people The The people that The

Who doesn't I like, I'm a BMA, it's a thing, this is a part of this is

a point, but it's it's a sport, but he's a sport that has been in it's a

not, no, no, no, it's art martial, yeah, it's art martial, you're,

it's a picao, you're back in the car in that, that's for me,

yeah, because art martial, because you know, sure, it's, but you use all this

for a purpose, that's basically to be your other the person,

I think I think Like, all the Lothal he's a lot of the guy who's the guy who's like,

he's been to the guy, he was going to stangulot and I'm getting a shoot and soko during two

for what? For nothing? I don't not, I don't get a shoot on a no

I think, a guy of art martial that can't do that kind of I'm in the

carly I'm just basically there's I'm like I'm I remember a lot

that I don't I'm going to I'm the Hald the two Luts those

are the two, the two, like, you know, you know, that maybe was the guy

most anti-poradaria that you have been in you know, and you always make question to include the

people in those projects, in all the things that you did the internet, always have someone of my life,

no, in your channel, for example, of more than eight minutes on YouTube,

there was Anderson, Verdum, a demon, a cagan, and the other, there,

some buched, there, some busterer, and to have a talk because you don't have

an opportunity yet. There gringo. I wanted much,

I'd really talk with Sonny. I tried a

time almost roll to do it and I think a figure

interesting so the thing he he created he

was a man he was very much much he

did and not not about the performance but

but the marketing that he created interesting to talk

Randy Couture is a guy that I think great a great deal too, that I think how he

troted with the FC the FEC maybe he made him pass him say he not moral

and it's a man who man who I don't know I'm like I'm know what

something I'm going to want to come and be a champion peso pesed was like

he gave the thing Sylvia I think the story of this car totally very interesting

so there's would it would be John Jones, the guys, like,

in Brazil, I've got to get a conversation with a group very good, I never could have

my husband Aaldo, which is something I'd like to have done, but for a question just of the

responsibility, which is a kind of a super-parceer also, but, but, I,

I have the, I have, I have the, I have the pleasure to know a term that I admire,

so, the most many, those most specifically in the comedy. So when when I

when I when I when I know the the term of the M. I'm more

more empowered at least to know to know the guys that I go

in the palco so so there a guy really great in Brazil

it's because the term the whole the MMA it is very accessible

and are very so you have a Liotto Verdu the proper Vanderlea, a

group that's always still available, who can talk, who can talk, not are many the opportunities to show and to talk

about the work, even because the guy, the guy, who is the athlete, for he's

a figure interesting, not the lot, he has to have a style, he has to

have a way to be a marketing personal, because, is the contrary to a communicator like I, who you call, we,

if you beat a pop, the business of their is a lot. So if you don't are not looting, you have to do make it's interesting in some way

because also there's this demand, this buska so great of the means traditional by the people of the M.M.A. So, the

guys are very un-seers, because they understand that it's an opportunity that I have to show a little other my work,

in the many of the many of many of the opportunity in the future to do things that go along

the world, so it's a group who's very disposed that's very really nice, the fact you're being

a person, you can't get, there's a situation that you've got with some with a

lot of particular that's that I'm carl, I'm talking this car, man. But more than this,

car, have seen the FC there, that you probably would probably I'll see in all the event

but the the press it's collated in the Rigg the F-C intends the importance of

the press specialised there there's there's also in the United I remember

I remember I was I was sitting a fan of with Velasks the first

yeah he got he he was a champion there had a part

of the press that was there the park, in the front of the park, and there were a guy in place that's like to be in the stadium.

So it's kind of you don't know where you will be able to get. And then, and then, grace of God, I can't be able to, so. But so, the experiences with the lute, they, for me, they are more more important, than

to know the guy. Assisting a LUT of MMA from, a, a F.C. de Perto, it's a thing very low. So, I, I, I, I, have, I, have

an opportunity to see the UFC in various places. For example, the first FCRio, as the first

event in the Brazil, I was a tatam in the time, and we went to get to be with three or

four people, so I'm not a little bit of my credential, I don't I could be able to

get back to say that the USC is in Brazil and I don't go out of I'm not I'm going to

talk to with the people and I'm sorry and I didn'trolet a cadenceial that me

can't enter in the arena but there there's there where

the photocopos auxiliaries. I was sitting like, I just like, I just keep sitting there at the final

I went to get over and then the end up the UFC of Lyot and John Jones in Toronto

was the same thing, but the first thing because the my credential was specifically

to this place, I'm in the stratosphere like so porth congelando

a frio long going as the funer looking not even

I'm not not to be not not I lived too much in me. But the most the most loco

was that you said you said you know, the island improvised, just 30 people there,

I passed three three months there, was a thing, one after the other brokeiss with a person, the world entire in

chams and you're there nevergulated in a bowl literally. Well, I knew that I had

been left in the press international there to cover, I don't know, Brazil,

so were two reporters was I and the Louis Philando Coltina and Camacarada, and

I think one of Europe two local there, two locales there, three of the United. There were,

not, didn't, even, didn't even, ten, reporters, did you know? It was like,

so, like, the space aero, too, very restrito and we went on

the air that the airs for the world, it was a big for 300

people, that had 50 people in, so, all that that day that's

an experience very surreal that could be able to be able to be able to be able to see that

yeah no, no, no, in the inside, almost in the ring

so in the rio you can you, the thing, the thing sensorial

was a different yeah, it's for one for one for one for

for who who got to it's really for

who don't I don't like so I imagine that I'm going to

be a little frustrating because you don't have

all the details for who don't understand much the

movement that the evolution that the transmission of

was impressive you see and you look how

were those first events of the and the

professional people I know I hear for for example, they

they're going to film a single to the world they don't use the

team local. When they they did an event in Brazil who were the people

the Brazilians control over the cameras the camera of the camera of the camera

more the camera more the camera those guys that go and cover those

this are they are they transport a tour to the world entire

is a that's a machine that is that It's a surprise, yeah.

They're like the circle, like the formula one like the all the packote

entire. So it's genial. It's a investment gigantees I remember in the

real, you know in the hotel there was like, it was only the

UFC those guys dominable the hotel entire so was a

thing really very was really so it's how it how they

understood what is the product of it It's very great.

The question the mark, and how they did the event to happen is very legal.

It's incredible. But the moments that I have more are the kind of, I just see the the victory of

the victory. The first UFC in Brazil was very very markant. He had

the victory of Minotaro about the Brandon Shob, that the Shogul,

I think was the I remember it was a rematch a revanch The revanch of Griffin, that event

was a marvelous, man, it was very very, very, very. And you see, as it's a time, this has

been a lot of, it's been a life, it's surreal, for example, the champions today, the championship,

even had been sterey in M.A. The Chalice was done those first passes, Amanda Nunes, had just

had to go to the United and you see how the sport moved, yeah, and one of them today,

is a starless, the Charles, that was in your channel, no year ago, two months after he got a car

and he picked the centuron and he came now the recorrenticement of explosion in the name of him

to be it's very good because it's a a guy battaliator a guy who has a

man who has a man he came the he came in the world and he was the world champion

champion again no no no no no a brian for a

champion even of the champion even of a man a guy like Charles so much

so humble to get a this one this this this last this last this last

this last one he not I'm nother I think could be a ball of a bag of

it of a cold of a fria in the and he went to him it's all

it's all it happened I go go to do the way I need to me prove

the same manner if if you had with a cinturon

or without a centauron. It's a I think it's genial, I thought it's incredible, this. This last one of Chars, provoed much a lot of Chars, provo, because it's a guy that really

has a story, this is a guy that would give a good film, too, because it's a guy that has a lot of story to tell, that lived very, and he's living now a moment of idol, this is very good, there, you know, you see that the respect, because a guy who has, if I'm

me In the he is one of the characters that he left more luts in a career until

disputed a centurial in the guy who took time he took out of the and back

and back a point it was like that it's like it's he's and he turned

the moment against the because he was in that I want I want to be no, I'm

don't but he goes to he'd be he'd be he'd be levy he'd get

to return I want to vote the He's forgets this porre. Lutte depeze levy. They're very much better so, you're going to be able to do

be able to doleve, then. Then, boy, I went there and he's done a champion. And you know, I've got the last time I I found him, the last time I went to try my visco, the consulado,

he was there taking the vizto. Nobody's knowing who he is. No consulado, nobody knows, the BMA, the guy who pushed in my home,

you know what? But you imagine a guy, that, what, in the States United probably

you would have to continue to come to be in the time, the time, the time,

the time, the guys came to Brazil, and it was nobody knew who's nobody

was, obviously, the Charles today, you know, no, no consulat no consulat

everybody was all the whole, everyone cackas to not everybody, but, but,

in a tranquillity so, having to do the course of his to come to come,

to the United, all this, this, the for the the front of the ring, there's much

that the people need to do you know, even to do you know, it's a lot, it's a

documentation, it's how it's the money, it's the personage that he has to pay to the

company, it is the person, it's the guy needs to have a patronator, the patron

personer who want to get to the end of until, until minutes after the

lot, the car is doing collective, doing interview, the guy

does the interview, as soon the the lute after the really, if you

can think in time in time of occupation, is 1% of the life of

the car, the guy has to be very to be very to be

very because it's a night before the the guy

is going get a too so put it

is much a lot this is for to think, the

Charles, he is a little minutes in a year, the rest, is a

million of activities that he have been doing to do you know, he's working on

the image of the side of the other, with the person, and he's turning this

idol, this is being the guy, he's, he broke the mark of four

millions of followers on Instagram, he's got in 400, in days, the guy

is getting the guy you can't you can't this potential to be the person

Anderson, Aldo, Belfor, Minotaur, in terms of fame, out of our bull, the M.A.? The question of the idioma, that is a great problem, the question of a question, the Anderson was to learn to say

English now, because he wants to do do a film, with a certain, if it was a guy who had been dominated the language, that would have been had been, a other force international.

A moment that the Chalves dominion in English, my man, man, nobody's a man, a guy who's a guy who knows about, a guy who knows about, a guy who knows a guy who has a man, he's a man, a man, and he can't do you, and he knows, so the guy who has one of the Charts. It's a man, you know,

the practicant of art martial, the way that he luta, the way he into the way he gets a guy who has a

potential bigot to be a one of the great idols of this sport. He's got with a lot marked now

with Marhachev in Abu Dhab in October that will be a little he wins, he's difficult

he will be very because the guy is a brabo and there this lot,

this story there's a there a guy of a VAL that is a Rabeeph that's

getting in the middle and the guy, he's a possept, he's not back,

but he's doing that things happen that the way of the way to put that the lot of happen,

I think he could be good for Chalh as a guy a little popular in the middle. I think for

Chalels, I think for him personally not far as no, he wants more to really,

he's more at the same in any way in any way in any guy, he's a guy who But I confess that I, like, I, like, I'm

a marred on Rabib, as a personality of him, too, a guy interesting, but I'm a bit of sacko cheery of him, because for all the hour, the guy brotta to say something, to say, to do something. He, he not desaposent,

but he'll talk about what what happens, and all the time. The medians brink on that I'm going to more to respond if there's a limit of humor, but you think there's a limit

for the trust-talk for this provocation? I think it's just it's quite that the the loter not got to

talk of family I think there's there's a limit yes that's

the family the man the McGregor and the oh I'm I'm

didn't the name the the guy the the the Nicky

Dijer no no no no that's that that's

that he's oh the Maggner said of some things that I think

the guys don't don't let's pass so far as far as soon it's become very personal the story total I think that there is a limit for me fuck the guy says my son my son

but I'm a comedian my profession is this the profession of the guys not this is that they have to understand this is just a temperer there is just a tempering in the story

so I think the limit there really the guy to talk the family of the other I think there there's

a lot of a little very much a little so it's a whole, now you want to

you want to you with you, and I'm with a I don't see, I think

I'm always thinking this person why I'm going to provoke the guy

if I go to come having this guy to with a

right that he not I'm I think much a risk

but by the way it's a way to be a way to disequibrate the guy to kind of

so, so it's it's not it's a fact, you know, one of the guy specialists

was in this was the sonny, not a guy that you said, I think you maybe,

maybe help when you try to try to try to try to have with Joe Rogan,

I imagine that you have been you've been to the country, the time, the carreire,

the your projection with have been grabbed with a guy that has the

most podcast of the world. That's the same, the commentaristic is a commentarista yeah,

man, he's a guy, was a very cool with me and I need a

great, so it's so it happened because who did my connector with Joe

Logan. I was a much time trying to do this participation on

podcast of Logan and I thought I thought what the way

I can to get to get it's to get to it's a it's a show and then a person

me says it's it's it's a a m m m a talk about a friend he'll

and then repeat he can you can't once the rogan said well he said oh verdon

mann't a manned a manned a mann't a mann't a mann't a mann't and he

marked two days after so so really has changed my story in the United this participation

on the podcast of Joe Rogan and for the person we're in a person to be very good from me from me

from the first of my story here. You probably not a interviewer more than a interview that's you did for me

when I was to be to be a time in 2011 and then it was there's

he Rue 1 in the cell in the office it was it was so markant

but so so markant that I can't even I don't I'm certain as you. I didn't certain years. I'll have

seen her to know, today, to see what we've talked, in the interview, and you were talking, po, as it was a wonderful, I lived in that moment, but a part of the thing would be in commoner, was to see,

like, a champion of the FCHA, gain, a lot of the team, and you, from there, you know, you? Did it?

Did you? Moved. Moved, moved, or, obviously, moved, little, not. The grand

idols have gained well, but continue this disparity, this, because the FC is more

than the UFC is a event, a car, a company. So, on the box,

you have the, the, the, the, the, the other,

the other, he controls the money, he controls the money, he's not, he's going to

get to get more, but it's, but it's a little frustant you imagine. And, especially, there

many people who critiqued when you see these guys that were all the entire, for example, many people criticed, Minotaur, for their had sticcathed, in the final of her, that you say, well, the guy, you know, no, it's not

more the same pegada, and still still, he's, still, lost two or three cloutes, Belfor, Luta, and still can do, want, to, can do a, car, for more to, more of 35, the Anderson

looked, even the people said, oh, Andrews, it's all it's all it,

it's not too to say this, because were guys that were guys that

were the story of the M. And that didn't have chance

to gain much than the time if the Anderson Sylva had

had built the career his over at the

after he had had got three or four more

than more because he has more. So these guys wanted to

have an opportunity to gain a money that they didn't have there in the beginning. Because even talking of Japan,

even the Japan not paid so well, so it's it's a bit this to happen, it's still,

that even, despite the Beltor and still, it's a kind of a manned, and the

other, the guy to be a man to be a lotator good-s- considered the general

of the line. We have to have we have to pass by the UFC. But I think that it will be bettering as a little

I think yeah, it's a guy, like the chalice today, he can't

get a certain patrimone, can get a money, that's a time with a career he'd

maybe, that's not much, I'd be in the time you'd work you know,

how is the MMA, how iscc how the UFC were seen in the BAND? You said

that it was, that it had been it had been been it had been the people to

to let you go to the SECC to cover the FCRille and you know, you're even even though was even after a league with

a CERTANIA, you're playing but over once in a lot of once in a BAND, yeah, in that era in that era, in that era, not there was a UFC

in globe even I asked I've I've I've known when I've came to the end of

the end up the time and I'm my curiosity how is how are how you're how you get to

get a moral like it was a moral like I'm you know two events but you

can't pass on live you know I don't you know I'm the result

of the last the result of the regras and he he told the story

of how they they entered with force. They were the globe of the UFC. And then what

they did they said? The guy don't see they're, they're a blobo, tentar,

tentar, retort, tentar the SNT, nobody got to what I wanted a

UFC to the minor and then they're to do the TV. And then

no, the Saturday came to do you know, the thing is a business absurd

of three four points of audience and then then interested. And he me told me this. We just

we got a iceka. And then then it's a band is a interest they're going the potential

of this yeah, car. It's very great. A bunch was passing events

men are the SFT on Saturday night. So, look it a band sports

pass over the jungle I mean the guys understand that there's there's there's

a demand and a gal people and a wonderful and it and you see you

also you also you also you negotiating with Galais to pass events or or content on Twitter

that shows that they are open up to the patterns alternative not just see the traditional

so they're being could talk with Raffin that's what was going to on the channel of Raffin

that's the guy has there's a guy has been there's whatever so at the Raffin of

the commentarista in the events these guys are those guys are they're all sometimes

a lotzio, a lot of the time. The team all right, the team are all right. I've been a NBA for carama, too. The guy has, I don't see, I think the guys have been a lot. The FC would be genial. Poh, it would be marvellous, to do that, everyone's, to do you know,

pick a friend to make a new thing to make a friend who curts the UFC, and that's very cool. And, what good, that's are able to these things. I think marvellous, it's very cool. And for us, for you know, to leave here, I know, I know

that the life is very correda but there many YouTubers getting in this order of box of celebrity in Brazil too

there's he did Wenderson against the Popo who even he was really he went to a porrada he not

did the 100% of him but you you know you think he you know I don't think I don't think

he did 100% but he got but he got much a but he got got got a lot

he did have no no no did all he had then in he had

he made a balladia to say, he's he's he'd he'd know,

he'derson was there the enderison was there he and he he said he's

he sure no point he's no, there's no, there's no,

did all that he did all he didn't knowcaught much I'm my

me, it was me it was with this papin oh yeah

did do two He goes dance in the final to say that not did all the end up to say. You know, it's all? It's all.

And you think the Logan Poe is going to Anderson? Look, I think for he, not cartase

international, the way that, you know, would be a a lot like the, with the, with the,

with the, he did it. For him, who gets with this is more the Inderson than he,

you know, not so I'm a shankation. He said, he'd be to see, but he'd be to see,

but, in terms of celebrity and he'll be taken to back down. Because if not he can't in risk, he's capable of

a Indersson knockoutia, he, he don't dovino that this can't happen. He's

a risk and then this guy, having been for a Brazilian, will not to be

going to get to he has he has he has to with something with

something that he can't do he for him he for Anderson

be the most the world and is the

Grand Paul, very cartels not, you know, and there's chances we see the Raffin'

a box? But, never, this naris here, man, no, I'm,

it's not, if I Lut-Mox, you know, it's, you have to have to do you know,

it's a good that you know, that's a word, it's a matter, it's but I

no, no, man, but, you know, the Netflix, long that I came to

the States, there in 2011, the Netflix me offered me to show I, I'm looking at my MA, they're in the media.

They were in that? Seriously, serious? I said, no, no, no, no. I'm going to buy my car to the other stuff,

and it's a no, no, no, my thing my thing is going to I'm going to a guy that was going to be

a group of the just saying, oh, uh, uh, you know, so,

so it's entivant, go, go, bring there, but there's there's much to be, just to be

just to be just to be So, and I'm trying, and the guy I don't know, I'd like, if I'd

know, I'd know, no, but not it's a question, but not for me, no, no it's just to call to the floor

really, interviewing and it's good, damn, Raffin, thank you, so I'm very good,

I'm a lot of coming here in a podcast, a success in all of your success in all the project, so,

I'm, I'm going to see a new in a FC, in Brazil, in the States, in Abu Dhab, who knows

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Our special selection has something for every style and price point. Visit our Holtz holiday shop and store or online at Holtrenfrew.com. I'm preparing for a vote in October, in the October, against Gerasmir Chart. How is it the expectation of, to say in the mouth, more than the outset? I'm so happy for a lot,

right? Five lutas, there are practically one and a month, one or two months, and I'm motivated, motivated, and happy, and ready to go to return. What do you think? choice of the adversary. A guy who is

a lot of an car with almost 50 in the career and with a lot of

the FC yeah, he's got he's he's front adversaries of all the different of

the october I'm I was a car my way to crosser, it's it's time I took to put a bat an, I

picked two meters of suspension metta, then I went to be He was he made a LUTA, Mondeau Cepano,

he opened a but I couldn't do you, but I'm made some some of the guys didn't

not have accepted, and when came to him, I think he was a good,

he's a guy that I'm the guys that I want to know, the guys that I can't be able,

me know, if not mentioned in the rank but me got very close

there to Rahnke, and it's a guy has a good Jijits and

Not a Superstar She's in West, but it's a guy straying with but not a guy who's a guy who's

a lot of the M.A. You're surprised the quantity of people who refused the lot of you?

The Mickey not said but I know, but I know, but I'm not,

because it's chate, but I just, in two days was three. There are some that the

Mickey don't say that's, who you think, that's, who I'm who I'm who I'm

I thought that in the FC, within the FC, not had to this, too. We'd see much this here out of the

FC, not the other than he'd like he looked more than he looked at the other,

I'm sure, I thought, that's the FECC, not that's the same way, the guy, want to

plan the career of an athlete, don't want with an guy, d'clock, he'll

keep to protect and, and one or another, he'll have to be to be some preche

great, one hour or another. And he know that with me not will have

life not have been not have been I'm in I'm gonna be able to get to be I'm gonna

try out of three rounds, I'm gonna go out of three rounds and I'm gonna the majority of the guy who's knowing and the chance to gain

is much more than more than more than you're you think the you think the you're a lot

that you're a lot of the career that you did, in the Russia and all right but I think that's you

have been that with a lot of the Potan, lot of three hours in with him, trocating the porrada,

and going to the porrida and going to the portham did with the other, I think that this,

it's also, does with the people, he wanted to get the person, he got the man,

he's temed, and he took a minute, so I'm going to try a morrow with him.

Yeah, it was been a good back after then, because the people started

much, who didn't me knew, who never to respect more, to look more about me,

and he saw, he was a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot more

a lot more story in glory, not pick-box, so, there no, I and he, and he, car,

the two have many stories in the sports, like I said, although he at MMA,

the poor think, ah, but it's novato in the M. No, but the

Potan has a grand story out of him. Not just the FC. There's

other modalities, other events. And he has the story of his, and it's the story he did a lot of him, he did that really did a lottoe,

but it was a lot a lottoe, the American, the name of, or what's the name of him, or what's the name of that, he, that he,

that he took for nothing, that's, my Instagram, I was in house, I was watching an F.C.,

and I asked more the F.C. I'm more the more of my category, and when those guys that I like

I'm looking. And I was there I was a man, when I I was a lot of Poetan, you know, it's a lot of Poetan, you were the United States, you know, it's a lot of people, you're in a lot, you're,

trying to win a message, you know, I'm not, you know, It was very nice. It percoled very, the news, it really. It was really, it was a good. It was a good. It was a great. It was my respect.

It's at the moment of his. I'm looking at my moment. I'm doing my name category. I want to be a big category. I want to be a champion. I want to get a very I'm not a guy who who got to much,

to, ah, I'm going to get this attle here, I'll get a tally, no. Every lot of your story. Each one has your vision of career, and each one has an one's a bet on a FC to get a lot in FC

to get a new, or another one, or if I want to be a a UFC, or another can't be in a FC, to have a, I'm, no, I want, I want to leave my legado, and I want to get a much money, I want to go to the world. You think, after this repercussion positive, that he had,

despite of having been a derrota, because he had a lot of his own, because he, put, he had this on-the-marketing for the feet of him in kick-boxing and the victories over Wilesania, The relation of him with Glover, a friend,

he was the champion, was the champion, no moment, so there's a canion of publicity, jogging, he, and he,

the fans of the people, he was the performance that you had, and the victory the victory where you will have been,

you expect that have a support of the Brazilian than this than this last for this lot,

now, against the yeah, because the people, the, the, the,

the, the, the, the, the, the, to look about me.

Because the event Russo just can't who are the MMA right,

who are to be in not in the world to be in the event russ and to

me, I'm at this, I'm a lot of the world even, no, no,

no, no, I'm not on the FC, I'm not I'm talking to know, I'm talking

of difficulty, not, I'm talking in the Russia, to be to be the place, for

it's, for a place, for a , for the And I'm really that the Bruce Brava. Because, unfortunately, there's that culture of the Brazilian.

A we have learned to be a error, right? And that's precha who who gets in the end. And, and never always it's always, and I'm,

and I'm, I'm more, but the Brazian valorizes more the pressure of the Brazilian, and this victory, how do you think that's like you

came? Because I'm a guy who we're very experienced, almost 50 Luz of M.A. He's been a cortiades, just was finalized. He peaked a guy's very good

to say, Marita, the Hansa Kimmaev it, it's been knockoutiated you're, the game

is to try a porrara you go to go back, it's like you see, gang of him about you know,

you know, it's going to a war of a 15 minutes or or it's coming in a finalization

in some moment. I've my team, my team, my professor, Daniel, the teachers,

the professors are with me the professors are with me a lot that I will have to be

between the agressivity and the calm, because not a a guy that I can go to

a break directly with him, because I'm I'm a approach with him to get in a lot

chattah, the chance of the chance of this is that I'm going to be a bomb in the car because he's

a gegeter and he don't have a hand a man and he's a lot of some of

some of the guys, but it's a lot of I'm a more more more calm no,

not I'm not going to go to go to go to go to be a bit more

more calteroos there some some hours there but my my victory with him, I have

to have to be able to my death, we're going to make him see covade of a door. It's a bit, batte, batte, batte, with intelligence, not a big,

and if I feel of the blood, then my goal, I'm going to, and I'll, go back, and I'm at the house

of his, and, for just to finish car, you, vent, now, he's very for always,

all the potam, for the bellissima the lot that you've zero, and he got the chance

to Slikand probably will be disputed the signor now, not there is the way, but it's the

way the way that's the after the performance, the year's kind of a non-day-and-

to not say impeded against the Jets and Panonia, how you think that be this trilogy of them

were two box and now the first in the M.A. Yeah, the part good and part the part of

the part of some people, when I'm when I'm remember the blindado, And the Poitán, it's kind of a

sombre there, too, too. I don't know. But it's a baccano. At least I'm doing a... I'm doing a... I'm a... ...a lemurances in the lot of Russia,

and the Poetan in Glory. And, maybe it's important for me. And, well... But, man, it's, like, it's my vision. So if the Adesania to go to

as he he'd be a lot of he'd be a lot for Poatan Yeah And the

Adesan is a very, very versatile he's a He's a He's a He's gonna do it

He's gonna be able to St. Silva No, it was he'd be to make him to do he even

to do he's a lot Yeah I think Because Paulatang not a

guy who He's not very to up, and the Adesan is

the champion. So a defiant, he will have to go to go to see to get to get to get to

the way that's the way that he went to come with Romero, with Vettori, this one of this last of this

look, that's bizarre, yeah, then the Poetan will get one of him for, now, the Pottan will

dishinger in him, with all the certain, but if Adesaner will do what he went to

doing the little to the war to be the what you What do you think what happened to the Adesanatatat is in this valley

but going to more, you're going to less risks in the last lot. It's complicated to say a guy when not the champion. The champion

he is the champion. He has a strong in the hand. He gets much better than the vision. I, I, I think the chato.

It's a few of the guys that were a champion and would be a knockout. Johnson,

Bon San Si. Bon San Si, Bono Cui, was a champion. It didn't It didn't seem to he was the champion, because he did what he always always did, he'd have the gropes, do nothing,

he'd be jade's sain, no, he's there, no, he's there, he's there, gain the first round, da two gops, does, dar three, then the other, it's, that's too, they're not too, because the guy, he's trying to get to be able to knockout, he's just a lot. But I don't know if it's more advantageous, you say, I went to I went to

a lot If I I paid because I was out of I was out of I'm gonna call I'm gonna but I'm

that's a popin after that's I'm at least I'm not I'm gonna I think I think it's bizarre but

but he's doing what he he's doing what he's who's not gonna be looking with him yeah he's gonna

he's gonna do it like and make the champion but he'll critic a combo if he's a champion

You think that in the fund, if you had to put down the money in a post there, you'd, you think the Portan would try the Citro to Brazil? In a moment, yes. In this moment that the Potta is living now, that the Adesan is to be able to pay my money in Portan. So, your salary of the Sunn's, is you, against the Portan,

by the Sunton, it'll be, say, one or two years? Yes, so, once and all, before you had to say, I don't have nothing to be carrying carona with the state of Poitam. No,

let the Poetan do a career of his, as I'm doing the year, if I was going to want to be getting up to him

and as well I'd be able to but I'm not, but in a scenario perfect, a we conversed this, after the lute,

I didn't say, the fact, it was he, it was, the Glover said, he said, the Glover said,

the group, after the lute the bluerre, we're going, he's, I said, you're going to to do you want to

the ring and the truant and I said I said potan I'm sorry I don't feel like

not going to put in internet and I'm sorry we're we're going for the

public, for the story that we did this the world a idea

of the sonner Brindat versus Potan by the postan by the

officer to if not if not I don't be going to

I'm my my I want a revenge I want a

So, I want a revoke with Poitaine, if it's for the centurion. If not for, each one, make a way to comeo for out. Manure, manure, manure. It would be fantastic, because the first one, for a foe for a fonder.

No, imagine there, car, and, Poitan, two guys come in the hand. The only one who's in the one with him to go-pah-go-pah-y-go-to-y-go-all. I'm in a baggiege of margall. He's just a... He's just a...

...couldean-in-contin-strikes, of the new, yeah. Neiman, it's a few days to make a battle in a

battle with a goal of Chia mausho, how is the end of the final of preparation to get a

different of your different to your own in the two of you two, being the

guys of the jiu-gis and what that does not in the training of the training,

with all you do do you do this expectative to the kind of the The trainers were very good.

Really, this is a little different than others, that are a little bit different from the other, I think he's going to gore much of the ground. I think he not will do that.

I think he will accept more a little Jiu-Jit, I hope. At a jues, we get there, and the guy, the wrestlers

were strikers, and the guy of Jujit also, I hope he'll he accept the the fight, the trainers were

very good, I trained many Jujits over this lute. And, other was training

of a wrestling, I mean had a lot Jujit also. So I'm I'm ready

to represent to make a more one way. But you compare the your style of Jiu-Gis

with the style of Jiu-Gi-Sys there? You think there's a difference? The things that you

gocting to attack, how you do you do you do you do you, do you

actually, I think, I think, that's a very very very very

very bad, he's a very bot, right, he has a box very good in the

back, in the back on the back on the car very very similar to be a question I'm

that I'd think the only difference more than a luker a little before to finalize

and he is different he goes directly to the personalization goes to one to one from

so it makes a very very perigoso you know you you're a

question of the question of the question of the first of the you are a

originally, so, the middle, and he was in other category and he ended up to your Peloved? Depends, you know, I don't know I don't know he, because I don't know he, I never see him, because I don't see the stature, but to tell you, I don't

tell you, I don't I'm not I think that for he has subbed, it's because he should have been with a lot of problems to bathe the bed to the bed so, I don't tell you not positional. I conversed with

him, and a thing interesting that is like a lot, depending on which you talk, it's different,

for him, it's an opportunity because he's out of the top 10 of the category and is the number five of the ranking.

And for you, it's just the contrary, you're just the contrary, right? You're saying, you're trying that's not

rankeated, how is you when the matchmakers you suggested, you, offered the fight against

you got to I just I wanted to get a someone who had some that was a way that they

brought up this name yes yeah, in fact I had been to look to someone who

had to someone to be on my last few my last my last I'm

doing with the guys that was like the like he was in sixth I was

in Kinto the Jason Jackson was in Kent I was

I was third so I wanted with guys that were more well ranked

but what they alleging to me is that everyone was just kind of I thought I'd even get to get to

the Luton Jetson Jetson, but he just were this lot and I think a look interesting

too because he's he's not he's the guy who has the kind of

in front of the Bel Atore so he's he's the one of the most of the

the many of the best the people So I think if I've I can't win him, I can take this title

for me, and if he won't he, he can take a part of my rank for him. So, I think there some other thing to gain, in this bricadea, you know? And you think that this battle during

or you think that's a little bit? It's difficult to say, but I think that no, I think it's not going to do that five rounds. I think that

someone will finalize someone else, I'm going to keep counting with this, never going to be in not trying to not try to

try to end up so I think to terminate before the 5 by my style and for the style and

you said you know that the objective is to the game to get someone to you're going to be able to you're a little complex because there's a championer, result, or to get in a little bit of a lot

and you think that, for being a little entombollated, me like, to have this obligation of the guys to

confront us, you can't wince this look at re-offord to define who is who will

discuss a future in the future. I would want to that would be a thing that

foring I think difficult, I think he's had a good passport to do

to look against the Amosos he has he has a Donterino, but

Jason Jackson is doing the sop there's a lot to do you to do with this revanch for him for him

for you know, I think I think I'm paying this revanch always for Bell Atour

and I think that we can't do we do this revanche if he not, no,

not opt- to be to be still still too, exactly I'm I'm going to

say the Jason Jackson, I said, the Overstory, is the reality. The Jason Jackson

I'm the I'm going to do Douglas Lima now. I think it makes a total sense, who can't

put it in the same event, exactly, could put this other at the same event,

so I'm in the time I'm in the time, if all this all that all right, make this

revanch with him really who really who really can't this lot of I'm going to

five rounds, and I I think I think to put this this look at this lot of

five rounds too. And what what that you did with him, and even the proper Logan, what was the lesson of the pre-inized that it was to help us in your

evolution with the M.A.? Yeah, car, the luta with him was different from his, the other than the way I can say, not that I'm going to guard a maugua, but it's a lot that I don't guard a magua for it's been a lot of really, you see the face of his face, as we saw the lute, I think he's

we've got all there in, there were almost a million golfs that I and he, we're just, we've got a lot of really d'nought. What I was to learn of this, and I'm I can't say, I'm doing very in-pe-at, in the part of the

process of all, and I was in the whole, so I thought if I was with him, I'd probably, I would look more the grapene, even than to be the bottom, you know, I, even, I thought, I'd even try to push him to the guard, but he was he was going to try, but I'd try, in other ways, to

do more grappling with him, which I think is a lot that can for I'll gain, yes, with a lot with Jason Jackson, I'd say that I think I

think I'm more shattied, because I thought that I didn't give a discus before in any a lot, but that was

a lot of was a legonated, I was I was hurt and I'm much, and I think this made

a difference there, and, man, I thought I think I got that I'm the judge

gave the time, so we had to do that this trotene, and put this round this this way

to do you really go if he get me get me get to it's a good,

I'm going not going to not even but now that's the way I think I got he got

he got he got this little so I think he had to the local got a battle in

a lot of that was a perted too Michael Pete and many people think he

not maybe he's even the Scott Couger said he said he he said he didn't

the decision, because he not did nothing in a little he's he's he's he's

he has he had in the signetal the centuron linear there's you think

the way he's there's not there not have that's so much not that

he's been like the himself he's a guy that he's really really really

somebody he's really sobond yeah so so he he did the lute

with the page a that I thought he would make like a mine,

trying to me derubes and get to me derubes, but he never tried to get up to me derubing.

So, I think he did the good at page. Page, a man, he's a

badger, and he's been there to have been done him, he got that lot, was chata

but he gothott, and, man, I think he did so, he's done, he's just

with a M.O. He was a decision divided, was a lot, was a lot

very d' d'clock, he I almost finalized the homoesop, so I think he has chance, yes, he can't wince the homozov is favorite, but I still think the Amoshoff is a favorite,

and this is also my other look that I'd like to do. Who, can't even though, pass in this fight with him, Goethe, dingoes, the derot to the Jansom Jackson and peg the sulturae no next.

Poh, this is perfect. These are my plans. I hope they do all the correct. Goet, will do you, the Lutta Luteh, will do you, the Lutor-284,

as the Confronts, this confront Brazilian in the middle of the way that's starting this short of little

days to start in the moment so, Gleam, the expectation is the best possible I'm just

living in a phase very good of my life of my career and the expectations are

the am the many am very very anxious and the expectation much

for this confront. You surprised when offered this the

battle, the house, because the opportunity I was was a kind of a

kind of that's been re-hkeated in the division. We don't, not, not the position that

I'm, not in a position that I'm, maybe, but today, that the

case, that the doesn't come to mean, without, in the fact, in the

I think, I'm, I'm, a little , like, by the, by the,

by the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the,

the, but, it's not for being a but, but it's, but,

it's, it's all business, this is a we have to do, it's,

it's, it, I know, no, personally, but, I, I,

I, I, I, respect, much the, the, does part of the business, it,

is, I'm, I'm, no, I'm, no, I'm nothing,

nothing, to be a to be a bit to see to be honored and very opportunized for having

me gave this opportunity. I'm very very happy. And that's that you don't can't recusar

a chance to finally get a top 10 of the division of the Vosos now,

that the name now is the place to not for a chance that's not. Well, yeah,

no, there, no, because it's this type of lute that I were

putting in the lightweight division and for the people who

not know, but in the back of the years what happened when I was in Lightweight Division, you see, if you were going, if I got, I don't gain,

I don't gain nothing, if I perko, I perk, I'll perk all. So, this type of lot of money. But not for cause of the organization, really,

there was a lot there was a lot that came to five, four times the adversary, it was to be, I remember that came two times

the fight, I want the number two, the number one, rankied. No, infelisement, these things happen.

Even in the Luka to it was a war with a reprimed with a Nipikolot and it came down.

We don't not, I'm a guy, as they say, the term, the United is,

I'm a, some, I'm a price fighter. I'm a guy that I'm looking by,

probably, by my legacy, but there, is my gain for my work, so I need to but I need to question of casement

of the lot of those are prosa like I said gain, gain, nothing, get, and then this

Lema represents that, you know, it's a first, that we see, that we see, that we

see, that makes sense, for us, including, my last with Chokeli, also,

exactly, the same the same from a lot that if I won't, I don't gain, I don't gain

nothing, I per then I per all, I'll perp all, then I'd I was a lot with Derek Anderson,

who was rankeded, and it was going to the fight, and you see, these things happened with me ultimately, but, responding the question, me, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm happy for,

for taking this opportunity. And, and, you know, that's all right? Yeah, that's all right? Oh, my life, better even, I, never, I never, you know, that, that, that,

that, that, that, that, you know, that, that, you know, that, you know, to get to get to get my hour and to do a main event not I'm not

I'm still but it's something but it's a little more against a grace so there's a value

very special this lot and you can't have a proper camp was treated with much

carino with both decisions due the magnitude of this lot for me and how

you think that's the case the game because you two have a style

in the same in the two have the job of the the main

but what are you what are the differences of the show of Jiu-Giots of each other so we're

our style is a much more grappler than a striker two grapplers so we don't to see

we don't know how the lot will transcorre if it's it's pure grappling or

it's being a lot of kickbox that is a mytho that when two

grapplers the high level see when the lot the cross

in the I think this is a bobages It can happen that we keep a lot of entire on the ground, seeing who can be mixed. But for me,

no, I don't interest, I'm, I'm going to see the hour what is better for me, and I'll make the best strategy

possible. And I think the we, the our game of grappling, for more that we're both, the people,

we've been in the Brazil in Jiu-Sitza, our grappling is very different one of the other, he is a He's a guy that's a guy

The school of Renzo is more They're more They're more For Submisha For Jitus And they're They're very old-school

And they're And they're They're very good in this And I'm really good in this And I believe That my Jiu-Sport For has been A jiu-Git-s more

Jiu-Git-s more That's a little bit more Thaterer And I'm I guess I love the mentality

and I see the mentality of Grays, to have to finalize, not have to go ahead. This is talking

of Jiu-Sportive, not to not get running at the point or the more even of the vantage. But I

think I can't bring a little this part this part ball of Jiu-Jitso-modern. That is

versatility et cetera. And I think that is the principal difference with my

game with Nima. And you are the guy who has more finalizations in the Bellator,

are the same me gama that you've been that you've something like that's what would what would

be important for you for the fact of the story of maybe finalizing a phrase would be

a part of special? Ah, with sure I don't I don't I don't

I'm not I'm not I'm going to finish the battle so we're going to

the course the course of the It would be, it would be very significantive. Because they are the principal

family of the arts martial, so it would be significant. It would be more infronting on Neiman Gracie that is the

most probably the most representant of the family Grace, so it would even,

I never had conjected this possibility, but if would be something would be something

and it would be something that that, you know, every time I finalize a lot,

I always think in the family Grace, you know, especially when no, when there's, when there's,

because the we look, the MMA is a sport very aggressive, but when we, I don't go to

make the disversions, when I can't end the lot, it's, without,

so, some, so, you know, since, can, and, and, and,

and, to develop this art martial for this, for us, to dominate the enemy without macha- so it would be an incredible. And as we said the name now

is the fifth in the category. Acima of him has the Jason Jackson and the Douglas, the Jason just goto to Gaildoz, and has the champions,

the Amossov and the interiors in the other story. Gagnan, he, imagine if you can, you know, the 5 will be

mirro there. You think, how there a champion and an interino that they're unification the front of the next

path would that would be the would be you against the Jason Jackson

to define who would who would be the next to do you know, this is a

lot of that makes much sense this is a lot that I see what they would have

what they're going to not, not the not my chance to cause these

but a lot, but a person with someone that's someone that's

the story the Douglas Lima and and Jason Jackson are those are those that we're

going to look that we're going to be able to get a lot of we're going to a reportage here that's going to in a gazette

of the people in 2016 there's a time there about about about about and there was a

declaration important interesting of Rafael Cordeero that the trainer

of the name talking about about the those the athletes there

and so, that's a re-annovation, and he said that you had even thought that you had even thought that you had potential to be champion a day. Now, six years after, you're trying to try to get your chance against exactly a pupil of his. Oh, man, that's, that's, that's really, I never, I never missal. Because when I me encounter with people,

like, in my life, it's a moment very special. For more that it would dole seconds or minutes, I always will remember, I have a carino for the master, by the master Raphael. He was very,

very gentile with me in that opportunity. I remember, it was after a lot durissima that I did there, and he, it was,

was very gentil with me, you know, we can't have more, other than that gratitude for for,

for being these things, because he, he didn't need to say that and I'm very, very honed and

I'm very happy for having passed those things in my life and in my career. And I

think I carry a lot of I'm not I'm not I'm not the same thing of his because all

everyone here from the base of Raphael Cordero, so all us here of the we have done,

we have a little a little the work of the Master Raphael. So, I'm

so, as same the family Grace, I'm not the family Grace, so,

and the Raphael, I, I'm I feel a little, you know that I have a cement a little of them. For more that I don't train with them, I feel part of this, the school of them, you know, so, this is legal. Bufo, you, in the last lute,

Gere-D-Capel, even as because of the launch of a scheme of of the PFL and he had advanced to play-off, you ended up being out, but he'd justine that he'd end up to detaining the semifinals But then you received the convict to occupy the place of

this book for a million of dollars, how is you receive this news, of that was a new year

in this playoff? In fact, I received the news on a second day, I

went with my company and I asked to him to try to make a

last in the final of GP, I think would be in October or

November. And, for coincidia in this And the same day, the Recepho called for him and he asked if I could go to stay in reserve of the GP. If someone would be hurt me in the English, but if someone

if someone would be in the case, I would be there to fight in a place. Forre, because I don't, because I don't stop to train. Like, I mean, I diminished intensity, but I don't I started to train. I started, I started to

get the facts, I started to get the Instagram. Oh, Bruno is my friend, he's true

but he's my friend. And I don't have more he posting the training, I said,

I said, the man, he said the Bruno was a manchukes, if it was put him

put him, so I'm so I'm so I'm two days after the proffel announced

that I would be substituted Bruno, no, I had had been I,

I, I don't know how I feel like I've got to I don't have no words you can't write up I think

I think the the NFL is an event that's where you're where it's only a chance preferre

is a door of the soul I think that's this way I'm I'm seeing that

I'm imagine you that was a probably you're happy to wince

yeah yeah yeah in a event international and imagine

I'm there had had been a got a frustration

that won't but it was sufficient for to be able to get the vaga, right? This was the first

conversation that I had with Christiane after we finished the octagon that maybe if I had the knockouted his first round

that passed very little if I had a knockouted his first maybe had people saying that

was a goal of sort or something in this thing. For who is the for who the

lot, you know that these things are difficult to happen and the sort not a

not a one thing we're going to say that it's a whole whole you're trying to you're in a

single single that you know a copo the sword car, I got to you know so I

think it's been positive I've got got to got a lot because I could get to the

world who who I because from the contender since I don't I'm

not able getting this to this to I'm trying to put this this fight. In my opinion, I gained the three rounds. I think that in this form, I

could show who is Bufa. I was just going to put this to put forth, I think, was positive to have gained him for a point. It was better to get him for posth than been a point. And it had an opportunity to be a main event in the ESPN, a platform giganteenths in the United. I was doing a main event with Anthony Perez and with a common event. Imagine how I was the other man. Oh,

Anthony Perez, I'd watch him on television, that's gonna' get him the same of the same the car,

oh, when I see the man, my man, I just don't divide him with the car, but I'm going to

make an event the guy who was the man, he was a miscritive, indiscritive, really,

really living the real, living the same, my sonning, like I love to say I'm, I live the sonya.

And now now, he's, he's the other general with the Pelosa in the same final, how do you think that will be your with him? My man, it's be a porrata, man.

It's a fan number one of Vanderlea and Silva, Brandt. He's going to be Curitian in the same of the guys, my man. He can have that he's chato, like that he's taqqqa, that he's there that he's going to get him, my brother, I'm going to show the Jitzeman,

I'm going to show him. So, I'm going to tell him, I'm very prepared. I'm, I think I'm kind of, how can I say, sensitive to some things, and all the guys that were puttled

in the NFL, I had a sensation that I that I was going to do this now, let's come to Dennis now, let me, go over him,

car, he's a guy a man, but I'm going to sign a porrada with him, my man. It's been, it's more one that I'm going to show to the

world, that not to be for a case, one d'n't over the bishops there, no. Not a beast of a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of what you know, who I think that's a man, it's difficult. Difficio, uh, the Clitzen, I most of Renan, I like him,

much of him, but the, the Clitzen, he's just, he's, you know, a farra, yeah, who's going to be on a bad, I don't see if the Renan was in a day, no, I don't see, it happens,

but he most, He showed this problem in there, man, so, I don't know. The Andeil, what I've done he's good, he's can't really, he's very very versatile, he boxeia, he derobes well,

he, he, I don't know, I think, I, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I'll just say, but I don't want to, let's say that, no, I'd like to, not let's say, would have the revenge for the million?

He not just devolved the but to get this check I'm going to you know, I'm going to that I'm

that I'm going to be moving like the guy of 70 kilos but the porrada of a porrida is a

poor, you need, so I was in base consequently and without keith. I think I I think I

think I think I made in the category. I thought that the judge pared a little

a bit more in that a lot, but the is a result, is a result

so don't have to be getting to get through the pasted or he's, I'm

going to start to go out a second, I'm going to explode in the I'm going to be a guy

very 10, I had a photo with him, he's posting a photo even a

kind of pretty a man, a lot of a lot of a lot of I'm

pass by the same thing if it's very far in if it's been with Renan too

even I even said I've said I've said I've said Imagine this day, I and you, I was in the final. He said, God, I'm going to see this look, I'm going to, I'm just in the luk, bro.

Porre, I'm, I'm not, I've been in my life entire, of me a little pesado. I'm going to, I'm going to be in the Merville of the PRAP of the planet. This is what, man? Whatever thing that's ever, to me is a luk, I, when I went with Bruno, I was fighting as, I was looking to, like if you don't have anything to lose.

Now I have all to gain, then, for, living not a dream, man. For certain. And just to finish, you can't, you can't make a plan,

to know, to know what would you would be able to this $1,000 or you're the type of car and that

just will think of this quantity low of the money, Vina, Victoria. I want to

to know, I don't know, I don't do, I don't have the dimension what is to look to

your account and have a million dollars. I don't know what is this. I don't want to even try to imagine this now to

blombrate. So I'm going to think on the tennis now, to try and I'm to go to hear of this. What would be the consequence,

car, the way that's the way that's the way that I went to do with Bruno. In any moment that I

did with him, I thought I in a single with him the time totally. Because of the time that said, that I'd

say that you'd pass, that I made to move to move to a way to come to a time so great

that I just I just thought to try to all the people that I could be in

so I'm going to put the carroce in the head to the busho think of now,

I'm not to do that and do you a good presentation and then as a semifinal

and gain at the final, then I see what I do you do you do do you know.

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