MMA Fighting - Trocação Franca | Renato Moicano esculacha Michael Chandler

Episode Date: January 31, 2024

Renato Moicano dispara contra os pesos-leves do UFC, em especial Michael Chandler, pela postura submissa diante de Conor McGregor. O lutador comentou o duelo de sábado com Drew Dober e revelou quem gostaria de enfrentar no UFC Rio, em maio. Larissa Pacheco também bate ponto no podcast para falar da “fuga” de Kayla Harrison para o UFC e a demora de Cris Cyborg em aceitar enfrentá-la. O programa recebe ainda Viviane Araújo e Natalia Silva, que se enfrentam sábado no UFC. O melhor do MMA brasileiro no Trocação Franca, toda semana, com o jornalista Guilherme Cruz e convidados. Renato Moicano joins the pod and fires shots at all sorts of UFC lightweights, especially Michael Chandler for the way he’s acted ahead of his supposed fight with Conor McGregor. Moicano breaks down Saturday’s co-main event bout with Drew Dober and reveals who he’d like to fight next at UFC 301 in Brazil. Larissa Pacheco also stops by to discuss Kayla Harrison leaving PFL for the UFC and Cris Cyborg not facing her at the PFL vs. Bellator show in Saudi Arabia. Today's show also features interviews with Viviane Araujo and Natalia Silva, who meet Saturday at UFC Vegas 85. Listen to Trocação Franca with Guilherme Cruz every week to hear from the biggest names on the hottest topics in the Brazilian combat sports world. Follow Guilherme Cruz: @Guicruzzz Subscribe to MMA Fighting Check out our full video catalog Like MMA Fighting on Facebook Follow on Twitter Read More: http://www.mmafighting.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Cruz. Hello, a woman, a fan of the centisem 25th episode of the podcast

Trocaceau Frank, a your house about this emmae this immense boardhferra.

I'm Glehrie and I'ma Farie in Brazil, I'm in back in the company of Larissa

Pacheco who was direct and a lot of comment the sayada of Kailer from

to get a FFL what she called to talk about about the DECC Borg and

set to confront her in the duel between the PFL, the Belvoir. But the first

convoyado is Renato Moikano, one of the distacks of the second on Octagon. You know,

the other side of the right we're we're in Ranaocoe that's the second the main to the

Dubek talking to going to Las Vegas my friend, how is the idea, the anxiety

of finally to finally to come to come after the time. Well, expectation

the best possible always, we're we're anxious to go to return on

October, not bathe the and to make a good lot to do you for the public well you

talk about with a lot after the salukian after that after the grand victories in New York

in November in November of 2022 it was it was the year past passed in brown how it was

it was after a great victory all that moment that's all the moment of that's got

to a new New York and how it was to you have to you invests in other areas You specialized there's a lot of

my name on the internet but what you like to do you do you guys to do you know, I think it's

a lot of doing it's a question, there's a other agravante that's the age, I'm with

34 years so every year, every year for my career for my stability financial

also I'm I'm dood to goate to work to to be to be and can't

you say what I do you want to do you I don't say, not that I'm I feel like I'm going to be able to

this year, I'm going to say in a porrata, yeah, but you're a reporter, it's not for more 50 years.

Now, the lot of a place of validate, no end up to mascaraa, you know, 34,

getting there, no, in a age, I have, I have, I have, I have,

I have, I have, I have, less time to do , so, I'm, I have a

less time of career now than than I would have if I was more new so I'm so I'm

sure I'm feel more so I'm really, but everything but all the whole reason I'm sure

I believe that's a good you're gonna you're gonna have a 14 years since

from your start in MMA but in numbers of lute in si you're a

a man that's you have a little you have a this kilometer this is you

can't you're getting now, near the elite of the FC, yeah, just have in a

pen, now, is a career in a little bit of the time, because the age,

can't have a number more than the time, but the time of the time of the day, there's the

campes that you did, but the number of the number of there, more than 30 luts,

almost 40 luts there, no. No, I've too, I've

had some problems in my career with lesion, with lesion, I I believe that it was a little

to train more than I'm necessary I'm making many times I'm having me my last year I'm not I believe that

was a need to be ready to be prepared but this I have to have been I had to have been more

because I've been very hard but this me for me it's a what I'm

what I'm I'm I don't think not think about not the important is the present

now and and Saturday I will have an opportunity of new, to show my work, to get

in this category there's a category very impugant for who can I'm a fan and I'm very really really realized,

my dream my son always my son's always we're trying a lot and living the dream really. This,

this lance of the lesones you think that's a little and you passelita too

because you disgast less the body so it's more more prone

to suffer than if you were going for four five kilos a more. I don't

see because this thing of the thing is so complicated because when I was in a

four, five, to me to I'm in I was also my weight sobe my weight is

sobe, my face too, so the same so the age she's

you go to get to getting more more more so I think

I think I'm all the same it's all the I don't know if maybe I think

what prevent lesion, but I don't can't even talk about this, I know I'm sure this year last year

last year I'm not I'm going to talk about I'm going to talk about the minister but but for sure

now I'm more conscious in relation to this and that important is going to get in the

lot, not in the training, so I'm so I'm focused, I'm want to

get 100% to get a look. You're now second a week,

about the night, going to back, because you have to how to get to go to

go to you know, I'm going to tell the reality. Today, I'm I'm going to

one seven six libras, 175 5 libras. So I have 20 libres to

cut up but after the training, it got to 171. So,

almost 77, like 77, like 78, almost 78, 000,

but there It's probably some eight, nine kilos but it's very

so I'm going to get very very easy it's a normal sometimes I'm a little

more more than a diet good in this camp and I have

so that in that I'm with Raphael of the Angels I was with 84

kilos to batter three days so so it's so it's

the time the three days to get to now I don't me

remember what was the limit 60, Yeah, 1,60, Yeah, 172, 1,000,

172, you know, so it's a little, I was, I was thinking in this, and I said,

I said, that way, really, so I'm trying, without, but it's that's the experience,

we're living and and learning. Faria, do you know? Faria, yeah, it would be a lot of

it did not do, it, yeah, it, it, was a, it was a,

a great opportunity, a good opportunity, and, always to do not with Rafael of the Anjus,

not was in the conditions, I know that he will be in the time, I think he will be a chance to have a camp complete there to

have a revanch, I never was a man to have a revanch no, but with Raphael of the Ange I would

like, because I think this perka of the pressure and the fault of preparation me to get a little, like that's

the great victory, you know, will be this this little bit of this battle, different from the battle against the battle,

you're going to be the three rounds? How do you see this casement of chills there? I hope that I'm sure

that I'm I'm going to I'm going to but what you said, what you asked what you call the the stock

in the power to knockout is a knockouter is a guy that comes to come to but a we've trained

a lot we've trained a lot and I I believe that I can't that I can

I can't to of the third assault, but a lot I'm prepared for the three

rounds too. A guy a good, but as I said other times, not a

guy that's a guy who's a lot of a guy that's a lot of not quite be a non-spreas has a

great power of knockout I respect him, but I'm a great power to know-

I'm to be to be to runca the head of his you you've got you've

felt with the choice of the because you, before you have to confront the Sarukyan,

which is a company of team in America Top Team, which is a lot of a level in a time time in

terms of hype, in terms of ranking, and now are going to confront the Drupber. You were going to

get to find someone maybe to find out ranking? In fact, they were to do you know, I'm offered to

do you know, so I'm still trying to look with Jail Internor in some since when I

started to say to to go, Jalintana in February. I said, I was training for Jalintan. But I happened that the

last year was a lot of Bob Green was to look at the Rooker. And the Rooker was made the Rune.

And the part of that I had said that I was I even said to call him and I did a

he'd be it, I was just about being the I'm still being back the Rangin the B'Briri

had to have been to end up the B'Nard Sandin and I said that not would be

for some manner the the guys are they're I don't know if he's I'm sure he was gonna not ever

if the FCC did you know but I'm gonna get up here a complete surprise but I think for this was the fight was the thing that was

so I'm surprised of no no one I was I was intervieged the Daniel Bohan who is the trainer of Benoit

and he was he was waiting to confront the Darius and he came to jogging the collar of he had done

before before there was with Benoit. They discovered that they were they were they were to

they're not going to the other so confirm my my theory my hypothesis that's the

question, I think that's the my idea, my idea, but I think it's totally sent to put him to go to the

country, Dux-Pourier, a a lenda. You know, I don't know if is a contract or not if it's a

difficulty to negotiate, but I was he's he's he's never so much. So, really,

it was a great guy, Beno Asandeh. I'm surprised to the party, he's not a lot of

he's a guy who's got a man, he's got just the lot-tutating between the

top five and now he'll give an opportunity with a guy with a guy that to be coming, but

it's not the type of attitude that I would have that he would be able to get to be to confront someone to

get to be a day, I'm a day, I'm even thinking he was surprised of him to top this type of

this type of I think he didn't no choice I think he didn't never because

I don't know if I saw if it said in the media but I heard that

when the when the lot was when the Dush Poria didn't didn't

know and he had the Porriya also not so maybe

it should have been it's been forcing me of course he's put on a contract that he

not could never need to be to be going to he's not but I don't see,

a lot that makes a lot of but you know I'm what I'm don't

I'm not I'm not the I'm not the only the only that I'm when he

want to he can't he can't sometimes when he doesn't I'm I'm

you're I'm For the You're in fact that you're in factoring the Dubber, you're going to re-coloccurring in the conversation between the top of the category, and what you're in mind for your own? I imagine that we're being more active this year in octagon. I've, you've got to do other interviews talking to the UFCRio in the beginning? How are your plan for the 2012? For certain. I I think I looked

just two two times in no no no UFC Brazil that was

in in in in in San Paulo oh no were

three so it was in in Fortaleza but I didn't I'm

I'm I'm I'm so I'm so I see like the FC

Brazil for me is legal for and and saying

that same say we're always always Brazil, you know that the UFC do some mole-siness for the public

to go back. Even that was that they'd be... But then you were a mollessia, yeah? Entendal? But then...

But I'll go to say. No, but it's that. There was a other situation, but when you have a car of Brazilian,

they're going to see the party of Brazilian, a not when you have two Brazilians but, but,

but but, but after this, it's always a card like, I think

favorable for for the people, not have been so, that's been, that's the Glover,

no, not it, the Glover, Jammar, and the Grosvenor and the Brano

Moena-Morna. Yeah, exactly, exactly. He was a choubun also, also,

but, but this this UFC Brazil, seriously, for the pro, you're getting

the Brad Rid, or you will, obviously, to imprinting someone that's who's ranked out of rank, who's been that's a mollezing

that they can draw on your collar there? I think the rankingado fast, the Dan Rooker the Bob Green

and, well, Michael Chendres but no, no, no, no, no,

no, no, don't know, to talk to Michael Chender, but I think. And Bobbue is also,

with Luteer. Bob Green is also too, so I don't know, but I'm not not,

too, I'm worried in to dobert. He's an adversary Duhb, he's a someone will be

there, someone will be able to get up to get him, I'm going to get him, who's the guy that's a lot

there, yeah, he's going to be going to many years, he's been even when the Bob Green

gained of Grant Dawson, that not for he got a cagad, I don't want

to try the merit of Bob Green, but it's a caggard, then the Dan Rooker just posto

on the Twitter, said, Bob, Gry, he, you, fuck this

Moikana and what I was talking to him so he's going to he's like a guy like the

yeah lintana no he's not that he is a molley but I think the biotip of Dan Rook is some good to

me I'm also also the cause the job of the show of their show of their not so

not some despite the Jalintana also are a man also a guy very good in-pair and the

Dan Rook gained he also also I think some those good for me

but we let's we're many things can can move

the the fight, like I said, this Beno, Sandoen in a one, a luta, moved to a career of him, two luts. So, the UFC, is always that's a with you here I'm saying that's good, I'm trying to

attack in other fronts, you're trying to more more than my personality and I believe that's going to render

fruit, so what I talking is the thing, after a victory, a discourse good, an opponent

that makes a sense, something that the F.C. not that's I'm in the rank, I'm in

the, to complete my career as a lot of the Lutado of O. You're a bit of

Michael Chendry and when the Magrego I didn't sacanial, the ender, he was trying to say,

no, no, he was too. And he did the assar, in the fact, because as well, I was trying to in training camp,

I don't think even thinking much, then I, then I, then the, my wife, said,

you know, you've seen, the Mike Grego said to you, say, you're going to say this, and then,

then I'm , but this is that everyone says, all the world, you know, I don't,

fuck, this I don't want, I don't want, when I was when I was a molek, I'd like to be everyone. Today, I want to be

Renato Moincal. You know, so I'm just to so I'm so that's so that's so I'm so forth in this fight with the U.D.OBE,

I know that the lot is so difficult, perigosa, that I'll put anything, I putt like, I putt some just to dismerce him.

But that that he made ammunition for me, for me for me be more shamative. But as

I'm just not the moment, there's a moment. The moment to be chamative, to be interesting,

is after the victory, because nobody liga for you if you don't are doing nothing

so you're not doing nothing so I'm going to be this space and this chance to make a

good victory and put in my narrative why the moikano should be going to have these

those you have some those more distakated it has been a packote complete and I

I'm planning and execute this plan on on the sabbado 3

February I I think your answer your response perfect because

we see, normally the athletes would have the chance, for the Conner, said, no, let me go ahead,

I'm going to you're going to be able to be able to be able to him to get him, for a lot of that we're going to happen us,

no, no, no, it would be going to be with Conner and then you and then you can't, so,

so I'm so so, so, so, so, so, so, so,

so, and the best, and the and the most, and, and the now?

Along to not to carve I think particularly, the Chandler a lot of a lot of

much people are you're not not a real, the Chandler is propaganda for me Chandler is

propaganda, how many, how many what's what he did the he did the

retrospect of his there now, now, but, but I think he's

a product well, you know, a product he's also, he got two of five

in FECC he got two two of five and there a guy excite, like the guy,

excited, the lot of the lute was a lot legal, but it's a guy that's a guy that's

a guy that's not a man, it's a power in the hand, has a man,

he doesn't use, then I think a lot fast. But I just can't talk

after I back on him. But I don't know if this lot will happen. And it

another thing I think I think he's like he's like he's doing

with him I don't know that is a lot of a lot of I'd like to look to make a grego, but but, poor, have a honor, like, it's a puttah to car, veld, he's just a humiliating, all, everything he says, he responds,

all what he says, you don't have, you know, you don't vest your pants, no? All right, I'm a moikano, but even all is money, understand? No, everything. There's things that the money don't want to, and I think

this, he's, por, apparently what the Megrego says, he'll lambing the ball of the car, you know, then? So, porreel, a very

a guy this guy I'm a man it's a manned he's a

question on he's not he's like that he's gonna nobody you're gonna you're talking you're talking

but you're but you're but I'm the I understand I think he get a little bit

but I'm there's a thing that I'm you're talking it's gonna it's car no it doesn't make sense

no man will be this look this lute not not even in the the head

of Pan. Now, the Lut of Shendry McGregor is a not the

whole, and not in the head of the fan, as he is doing the

when you have something you want to want to you don't give her

it. You, you say that you don't care. You have to have to

know, and he is trying all this lot is the lot that

will be going, because it's a look the McGregor have the

chance to enter to the top of division of new and be relevant.

And the only lot in the top five, top 10, I don't know what is where he's but in the top 10,

the only the only the lot of the mega have a time now. If the McGregor

go to the Densh Porreya, it doesn't more sense. But if he for a little bit

a Sandini even, that even not in 10, you know, if he for he with Sarukian,

with any one of these car, it's preju it's fum for him, no the

so the the fight is the Chambler because the FCC thinks that by the Shander

have these characteristics I said, it's a good to rest but no use the rest not there's not much

gas, not have not Jujits it's a it's a lot so who can't make grego so who

who they're it's logical but it so that it's a position of this position of man

he retwee he retweet everything he says he says he says oh my man you don't

you don't you don't you don't you don't you don't you don't When they finally to be in

whether they're in the middle or maybe or even medd or even though that's a other thing, this is another thing this is another

thing, oh, I'm going to my man, my man, you know, he's quite, everyone know that you

do you will do you have to do you know, you think he has a chance of the he's not, he's not

he's not he's not the role, the Kohnon is in a way too, but you Favorent

you'd say you'd do this love? I don't know, I don't know when I

when I say like the guy is wrong I'm not really I'm just provoking I'm a he's a lot of he's a good

he's a good he's a good obviously he's a good he's a good he's a good he's a thing is that

he's he's overvalorized if you compare the product that he is as a market and he like he's

you have you have some more many better and not there don't have the projection he has

for him American's like a American's in rest and there there has there's

there's but in a but in a lot, I also don't think it would be a lot of

a lot of a lot of a lot of a little bit for MacGregal I'd say that, I'd say that,

I'd say that, I'd say that, I'd say, he'd be a lot of, but the he's a chance to knockoutia him,

he's able to make to a lot, a lot a lot, a lot, like the public goes,

that was what he did with the Justin Gates, and for As much the Megregor not has a

fork, as a much of the same Megregory of the first of he's a problem,

and if the goal to connect it, he's a lot of the mangrey. It's always

was a person who the finalization of the lute. So I do that the chandler

is a favorite, but the FCC always always always the soki

and you know, if the sokien and the Charles and the Charnes and the

Conroro Garnes, he fur a fil of all the Charses with Sarukyan,

there's the Poria with with the Benoah, there's a there's, but it's the interest, it's the money, it's not,

it's not it's a way, we need to respect the man, Grego, not, talking about the

story of him, saying the name that he created for M. And, and, and, but,

people, I don't know I'm going to be a fan of Megg can't say the word, but I

didn't know the game, I said, po, this guy was spare before of all the is that you have

athletes that are much more recompensated not financially not financially not financially it's the title

that's full of he's not he's not yet he's there's a don't have any conditions you know

even a old Johnson these guys are full of chit chey de lute make Grego I'm still

making is always that's still the problem because the polemmica

for what he created so I'm so I'm I think he's he got the Chandler

also the chance that you have you have to get more money to get more money. And the chance for to find out of the men, you know, independent of the the lot, the process all is a show.

So, so, with the truth he fur, for sure. And it's very good. And the UFC, not is wrong and it's not

to say, that the, the, the, Connor, no, man, who,

who, who, who, who came to come the sport in the pandemic,

I never saw the Conan won of fan-new who have MMI, I'm a, I'm a, I've seen, there's a lot on YouTube, I see, there's many people who are every year, but this is good, well, because this is

this way, quite more people who know the sport, it's a better, this is a great of the defect of Jiu-Gi-Sue, that I see, that not crass. Tenth, because no, no, everyone who sees Jiu-GITZ, is a fan of J-GISO, now, these guys, when the guy

when the guy enters, when the MMI, when he says to say, you know, if you were B, if you say, who was Bid, you know, know who who's who was BJ Penn, not who was,

at the Renan Barron yeah, and the Rennabar was a champion for a lot of there's people, there's people who know, there's

that you know, even the Tidia de Lachau, not even the Tidia to Lachau, you know? Then I'm, then I'm doing the way,

the massification, yeah, the publics-o-gern general, this is good for the sport. That's important that you do part

to find out of the Kovov, you know, to maintain your presence online there, your channel

on YouTube, because, will eternize your image, the Tornado, the mark of Renato Noikano because one day

your career will be going to continue having a presence, whether a commentarista,

the, your career not will be so a loter, you're going to do other things in the

future, not? Ligated to sport? No, I'm not not say, not seem

to be not as the sport. Commentarista who can know, because I know,

but I know, but I don't know, I don't I don't know how it would be the question of commentaries. I did

the channel on YouTube in English because me helped me to make to learn

but I'm going to do in Portuguese I'm in Portuguese also a podcast NMA because I

think in Portuguese I can express much better even more even more if it was like a

commentarista but but the fact you say you said your life will continue after

your life will today I have been a What I do do it's be good I think I'm gonna

I'm gonna I'm gonna be I'm gonna I'm gonna be I'm gonna you're gonna I'm gonna not I'm gonna

not I'm gonna say you're gonna be a athlete of MMA you're gonna you'd you're gonna you're a

you have a you have a you have a you have a parada that is what the same the same the company

or the guy who opens a new today I have a certain absolutely that what I do me

dedicate I I will do be well. And who can not be a commentarist. But I don't know really. Let me see

to where go. I have some years of lute there and I still have some years to gain a time for because many

people think it difficult to gain money but for me it's a difficult in the sense of the training and the lot of

it, of it is it is it is emotionally but it's my opportunity to gain money now

with these the other of the UTCS. So I want to do this my reserve to then, then I'd like to do. So my plan now is to look at, but I'm just three years, no maximum four, join this money, and then

part to another and be so good in another thing that I did, as I was in a lot, maybe even better. Now we'll have a talk to Larissa Pacheco, Natalia Silva, and Viviana, and Vibiana was today, the interviews that were just on in a rapid interval commercial. Defenders and Cybersecurity

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Thank you. Thank you. It's here talking to you. It's a very happy for for being, for doing what I am.

I work much for this, for this time, the Lula the Lut in it is a moment that I have to me

to be to be to be, I'm, I'm a time, and this time is the

time that I have to be to be to enjoy, and it's what I'm doing. I'm

I'm not going to every minute. For many this time, this time is a trevice of course of

the course to get to get to be because the cord of the cost of the person not a

problem. Ah, so, no, the court of the is difficult, but I

look to see the better the best because if I don't if I would be

doing, and doing what I would have to be that I'm, then it's

not, it's, have to pass through these moments difficult, and I always look

this for the side the good. It's wrong, to be to eat, clear, the diet very restritia,

but I I'm trying to pass for this moment with much a idea. You've started your

career as the weight, and then after the weight of the post? Yes, I started

in the category of 52 kilos, but then when I moved to the team, that I

went to the academy had been barhach, I started barrage, before I did some

sometimes occasionally in the 57 but when I went to the contage we decided we decided

we decided to be definitely in the category 57 kilos and it was the

better thing that could have been happened it's a category where I

feel I'm where during the training I can I can be

I'm not I'm this restriation to keep maintaining

the better being the category where I found I found out of how is

how it was you did you do you do you did you move to do you

know how it was the contact initial to make a part of the team I decided

to move to get to the question I needed to I've to get

to get in the FC when when when when I know

when I started a auto-avali of me and I said I need

I need better much thing. So, it was when I said, no, I need to be in a busk of knowledge,

I need in busk of training, that will me, that will me leave to my objective. And it was when I decided to go to contact, because I needed to make a lot more

thing. And I saw in the team of Carlos Borracha, in the team Borrachia, the opportunity of me to be a athlete better in all

aspects. It was a part of there. In some moment, you came to this initial of career, you came to question if, boy, if this sport

was to be in, a lot of one or another, trying to do you do a lot in three seminars of disfennance one to another, you got to think,

po, in that the beginning, quite, the result, I think this thing is for me, I'm going to do this thing is

my life. Or you can't it's difficult, so I'm not not say the sport, but to look at a other academy, really evolve in other

place. So, in various moments, I think, like, for seconds, not it's a thing that I'm like I'm like,

but it's a thing that's a case so, with certainty. Not in this moment of the derotas, because I think what me made evolve as an athlete

was having my career and who, who came, who see my share-dorf, can take this paramed

of what I'm doing, that when I started, I started to have been, I started to losing many

the but the sentiment of the derota that me impucioned, I said, I said,

because when I was when I started, in the MMA, I don't know how it was in

championships, that if you were in there were there, if you had nothing, not was

not made, not of shardog nothing of the sentiment of the derrota, that was really

really bad. And I said, I don't be able to think that I need to be going to I need to

get a time when I was what I did a gas to look at this evolution. But I took in

where I thought, I think this not for me not, because it was in a moment

that I always say that was a moment that was a moment when I was when I

signed with the FC and was like a month to start and Ikebred my bra so

then my my breast no better that's better that no it's better and then when the

calcicciccou I went to and then it was never in the same place I was

my nose so I was in a moment I said my my goodness I think

that this not for me no because I just just I'm just I'm just

but, like, but I just passed on my my head's right to be it, because I'm I'm passionate, I, who, who, who, who, can me see, training, you know, how I love to do this, when I love me dedicate so, just, it passed in the head even, and I went away, logo, because

I love this here, no, there's come. And how is it that feeling, like, finally finally, is a show in the FC,

has been the champion of the jungle, he was, after these alves and

and back, he was finally, get to an octagon, and was a victory,

and get a time, that was, that was, that was that was a

moment of a moment was a moment very special for me. I always, I think, many,

many times I'm, I think, and I remember in that in that moment, because,

like, it was a moment of a moment of a lot of my, I had been a

year of year, in 2019, and then the UFC would have to make my contract,

and it happened the pandemic, then I nevered the arm, innumerous things that

happened. So, when it in 2021, in 2021, it was a moment that happened

all these things. In In 2022, when we were in this year, the year, that I was recuperated, of the lesions, of all of all, my trainer

said, we said, we're going to start in June. So, all the months that preceded to my

estreya, was for me, a moment to do a morgueer in my son. I prayed to give

much to God, because, careen or not, we think, we felt a bit of because I had

much time that I was in lot to be in numerous lesions so I was there was a moment that came in security and in a moment

that I'd say I went to say one to me to help me to me for me because it was a moment

very special for me I wanted I'd start with a foot right I'd

start with victory because I know of all the difficulties that I passed I

I trained much and the day that I I was a photogona, like, I was feeling emotioned, I felt, I felt emotional for making that came out after so time

without a lot, that I've been quite three years, without and I lived every second of that that's dream that was was streed in the FC. For me, it's one of the

moments most special that I have and that always I feel like record, to re-rembring this, revive this, for that I never let the chamo the desire, the desire, the desire, so I can't

because I know how it was difficult I'm trying to revive this, this moment of the stress, this moment, this moment, like, to be here, even, of all the heart living, of

the reality, what I am to do. And, you, in the last lot, took a athlete a batheant different, right? Andrea, Lee, who've been

been, after the no-caust of the last time, and now you're going to get to the

lot of the thing, you know, and the thing you think you think that this

does the thing, and you put it in the top 10, how is it is an expectation of

this sense of the the UFC? What is this victory for your

career? This victory for my career she symbol a path

to my goal to the champion The Vivianne, she is a athlete durissima. I'm very happy to be able to do this lute.

Me, I trained too, because I know that one will be a lotta dula. And this victory, as I said, she'll make in direction to my objective. It's more a pass for me.

And I know that will be a lotta dula, but I'm prepared. You're going to rank, right? She's actually, she's in seventh, and she was in my last month, she was the last month of the contact of her and the Jennifer Mayer, and she was going to.

But in the news anterior, she was her earlier, and she also had a pressure on her, and so she's in moments contraughts, you know, you? You think that this does advantage? Or do you think it's a lot of an adversary more perigosa, for, perhaps, there a pressure on to see her, too? No, I I believe that

not me does a because I believe that I don't me

does any a moment good I I think I think

when when we enter to the fact I always I always

I always when I when we enter to to do what you

did did all the all the your victories all the

all the all the when we enter, it's zero to zero, it's a zero, it's a

different. I train to wince. I did my maximum for to win in a moment that

has been in a moment that has been in not I'm not going to come with much want to

because she is going to to do you to look to do my maximum in the training and

I'm going to present a Natalia Silva who and the with a heart

and go in the victory. Nobody even in the UFC was capable of to knockoutial

to finalize her, you think that in the the time, you can get an

before the 15 minutes? Secret people. People want to know,

will have to see my the Saturday. One that I can

get to you do you do something I did all this camp

I I I always do this I always do And when a Natalia

enter there into that octagon will be a natalia in the buska the victory. I'll find a victory. How will

be? Secret, right, you know, just, just. Just, just. Just, just. Just.

So, you know, a question about, a friend of a lot of margated, that's a lot of getting to see this lot, it will happen

now in February, yeah, the day 17, a little after the last of your little after the time. in a action

there? All everyone is in this expectation to see him

to see he to see he he he he's a really very

very very very very very he always put on

good so so the expectation is the I'm

not possible I know in I think he

he he he he suffered a last he

was super empowered to that was a moment a lot difficult for him, because he wanted really to do that

even there, he said he was supposed to to look, but unfortunately, and now he's training, 100%, so I believe that will be

a lot of if you were if you were going to get this lot? Look, if I was if I was

bought my I think he's a victory for knockout. On the other side of the line we have we're in Larissa Pacheco, champion dupa of the PFL. But first, Larissa, before, before you talk about

your next confronts, I'd want to understand how is you react to the news of the last few days, you're getting to this mega card in Arabia Saldita, the duel of the champions,

with a Crice and Borne Luton of Box, and now Keila Harrison to bet him to the FECA. Yeah, I'm I was thinking that I

didn't participate the card right in the right in the final zine

I think not in the initials in January now we're not not

the fact of the card until then for me it was to

because they said that not there no one

of us participate we and I said all all I'm

all then I had me kind to my

kind of this dispute of those two that I don't

be going to get going to go ahead after them I'm a champion I'm

I'm going I'm I'm I'm not a few I'm totally conscious of what I

do you do my work and the I'm the I'm

I'm many many times that the my stereotypes I'm

I'm so they're trying this so they're trying

against Keila the Kela the Marica and a great

athlete of sport that And, today we just are looking for She's one of those percussors

there. So, so, I mean, I mean, I had, I had to be my body out of this

situation, I thought, let her be there, and I'm going to get, I'm going to

get a, probably I'm going to be like, like, like, appearing

on the pastes of my work, no, no, no, no,

no, I don't I'm, no, I, don't, I, I,

And we knew that we don't would be this new to be this news about

that's yeah I'm I'm pretty it's a comprehensive about a fugue

a bigot there for it and it and it was to do that it's

in other organization in a piece different you know it's it's a it's a

a bigunce all this now and far now a a C

I'm just asking to enter in this this UFC

that will have UFC 300 yeah contra Amanda Sint that Amanda Nen't

not said about the possibility but not it's not we can't be the same we can't expect of all

but I'm I'm waiting I'm waiting my hour to work I'm doing my part I'm doing

what I can I can't do you can't you say that's a Harryson you know you know

you understand you know maybe the same because she was the Belator she came

after paper after after this company after the company she has contract,

then, with the FFL and say to RECD to make a RANN to make a LATT,

not a lot of to work, you know, to work the same way, to be in a time to get to the

future, you would be in a level, like, the other than the other than the other than the other than the

world, much more, more, than the other than the other than the other than the other than,

I don't have to prove nothing to everybody, I think the PFL is a organization frack,

but I think, but, but, but the organization in that we can't

not have the media that we're but the question of the grant does with we do

everything do it's a lot, it can't not have this visibility media, but it

a life of a guy, how it's how much it's, I'm I'm going,

I'm going to my car tap and the time all me

and the because of quite nothing, many various, various,

various, various athletes of the UFC that's from the PFL that's said, what I did in a year, I don't did, in a year, I don't do my career,

I'm doing the office. We didn't, we need to be of media. A lot of, but we don't, not the media that's the media that's the

money, so, for me, I don't, I don't see this piece, but all the FCE, the major event

of the world, number one, and all, all, and, and there, the peso, and it's the situation of

Chris as a situation of a I'm a-socorro, she's a post-just- is a fact and she's

she's a taking to where she knows she will get to where she can be able to be in the

media during the time to make this money to sustain your family, to have the

rest of life comfortable that she she has and for you with

with all this scenario where you get because you're out of

this car of the the champions I think in April, comes the

next the next the previsory, the previsory, yeah, so you, until April,

you're going to be doing your camp, you're going to be doing the first time, there's not there's a

little bit there. Yes, they're, they're saying that the intention of their intention of

now, the Telf, Peter, said, and also, we've talked, anyway,

he's talking this in the, in the talking about, and that's the matter now,

is the my life my life, cyborg. And I think that all the question of a question of

promotion. A we can make a great combat, she'll gain the money what she wants, I have

the visibility that I want, gain the money that I'm all the world can be getting but it depends of a

question of a question of it's a organization. If the organization to be a good percent to do a

great promotion I think we can do you put a of a event and who

maybe in the next superluta we do to do a little a lot

principal. I think casaria super well my style with a style of a lot with the style

of the way, so it's it's a question of a question of I'm a question of

I'm in value of my job, I will be able to be doing my part we'll wait,

and maybe say the next super events because not will have more tournament

in my category not not of 70 or not the next superluta.

It's It's true, I had this detail, that it's not that's not there's a more of the no way to

have more not they're going to do the pesh that's not that's not not you're not just if

if I'm a arm or a pair, the two two hands, maybe we have to be more 57

and conditions how is the how is your contract with you? Because you would have a bolsa

and you but you were in a time you could be in a money now. Now,

no exist this tournament of a million there there's a there renecoction of your

accord with them to helpenance this absence of a tournament in the side of financial? Yes,

we're in this process of negotiation, but we're going to my employer is the devil is having

all over this to be doing this about the issue and we talk about the answer. They're

they're doing a proposal of their and we have done a not the we're doing the next

one of the other? car never no, no, no, no,

I'm not really, but you're sure, and you're gonna the other with the question,

like the people, the people the people of the people that they're doing the that they're

doing that makes total a sense that's that's you're sure, you're not

sure, you're not you're going to think of this end up this whatever,

you're not I didn't see but, so the scenario he is very clear for me the Kree

came out of the F.C in a way really fey so, brigando White now,

Don White just made clear that she don't like she not got to she doesn't work with her,

and she some of the other, she also also had the the way, this

not came to me, but, po, the event in that she had a all the

the the respald, yeah, total contract, protection, everything, all the security that she had

was a Bellator, now the PFL is on this, the new house of

her is the PFL, the fact, that was who bought the Belator, independent of even to even

to even to even, it's a PFL that's the and I don't know because

not, I don't do, so if it for a thing, she's she's,

I'm she, and I have my right my as a final I don't work at

a to-toe we're in a lot of they're not they're not they're not really they're

prioritizing it but then there's other question but I don't see why disperdi-two

two great numbers, two, a great a lot mini and she like,

but I don't say, for fault of media as I said if they're they can they can

make a great promotion mediated for this superluta that will have in the Rava Saudita so,

so, why not? It's a question of a question of a matter. The Bellator ended up

this name that's a very, it's a two in the United and six four. I think the

first plan in March in the Ireland, if I don't me can't happen,

you know, what happened on the and the crisis Borges in the the

would be a gigantees I think I know, the Braes are fans

so fanatic of sport So, of any sport in real, I think we are fanatic

at a point of to be a good to do you do a banderangue so I think a great event here of this for imagine

us two the lot of there's there's various Braille in the Belatoc as the PFL and now

all the PFL now there's a there a leke gigante of great luts just depends

of us just depends of the PFL also to bring this to back.

Afteral, we're practically mandating in the NFL, I'm in various champions of Brazilians. Why not, it would be

gigantees. And this look is going to how is you gain in it? I believe that I even go back

about this, as I've said, because the our game is very very similar so,

so I think we'd in a time of a resistance, one with other, who would

would be more soco, I like this brie I like this infight she likes also a we have

a style different but basically is strike I like I don't know I don't much of the because I think

it's chate to get so I think it's getting to the time I see as a case I

see the goal I just I go to those those other the other

other other other things that not it's not get chato it's

it's a A lot of various possibilities. I don't I don't know of knockout or of finalization but, but putting

the war of us two I think know I'm knowing the my style and the whole of five rounds

there's a lot of much bloods of much, of the end of course. And she she actually that's the

Caldo? You think that she does that does that she think she she's that she's that

she's that question exactly it's right so let's let's be to bathe the Petsure

because to buy all the muscle that she has she's prepared

I'm not not sure if the that the that the F.C. is she get more

fast there if she can't take a something she is a big

a girl yeah something she has something she has to be she

let's she she she she she did she she did

she passed a without and still it was to make a six and they were

a minute to do that because she she was about her about her about six to something

so let me one is ohso view not it not not not not really

it's it's a kind of she doesn't she never not she's she's

and will be fatleta she's a lot she's a lot of a lotto a lot of

she's she can not like we're talking, when we said in the Alge of her, but she has the experience

gigante, and she's she's used to to cut this piece, a lot to this piece,

yeah that he is a first and the first time is always more difficult. So, I don't know,

I believe that it's probably say that the Holly gained in this lute. Even a Aspen,

it was in a rhythm much kind of came in a job for her in this

last last the last the ultimate last she had so to say that she's

disputing in an high-rendment with all the world she's not really it's notary it's not

to seepated but the but the rendiment she didn't not was satisfactory if you would have to put up

your money then sure of that my torsida yeah if I was talk about

holley home car but she's but she is a another we still still still

still never will never, never, never, never, ever, she's a

person, I think in the, when there's a camera, she's a little, kind of,

so, so, so, not, not, very, with what I, with what I

respect to the world, I'm, it's a way, but she, it's,

and she, and she, and she, always, she, she, just, she,

just, she, I'm putting the Rina, but I think there's a rainia, not so I think that's not so much

the process of adaptation for this piece will be a little, like the time, it's, it's more, I would be

adaptating every more, but the first was very difficult, I think for it's a lot of the more better we're getting

more difficult more difficult is this process of court, more demorado, more, more sacrifficant. She had

had reclamated this situation in the PFL, Now she's going to for a category much more above,

two categories above, two categories above than she she's not really, it's difficult, I don't know

if this will vingar, no, she can even vingar for the name of the but it's

but it's, I don't believe that she's not really that she if she she'd get there

and rebent to turn a champion you, you will have always this this

this this this one, that you, the woman who got the woman who

can't yeah, for this yeah we don't know the future, we don't know what is what could

happen there's a front, and in a certain form, it's a parameter, right? I think if I've got gained it, I can't gain it again. So, I'll have always a base of how it's the level. Maneer, Larissa, thank you very for your attention, and

anxious, for, to finally, the confirmation, tomorrholy, with the crisis, for in the Brazil, and so, better, even. Well, I'm too, I'm sorry, I'm I'm superansosa. I'm expecting this proposal, as I said,

there's no there's nothing in my message, as soon that's that's all right, everything

we're sure we're saying, we're going to with who the next a lot, it's always a same

a same work, the same the same want to I'm quite to be to try to

try to and I'm quite to be just coming I'm don't know the other side

the line we're we're just Saturday Silva on Fivie, welcome to the podcast, how are you

are the last these last time for the course of the Pairs of the first of the question. Thank you for

me conceded the space here to talk a little a little these last been being been quite

been I'm here in Vegas I'm I'm I'm from

back in Newtina on the nightin so it was a voyage long that I came here

I did I did I'm doing I'm going to be adapting with the climate

and it's it's just yeah focused for the last and we're on this

with this your third battle I'm you you're on

a front gring yeah stro for the country

against the got the again again another how is this for

you're different you you like you don't a little indifferent,

so prove that the Brazilians are doing doing hard, they're working doing the ranking. I'm the number seven today,

so a Natalia is up being and I'm, the Brazilian is just pedreira in the front so, aghraise

as an opportunity of the organization because I am the challenge and the Natalia will be a great a challenge for

me next Saturday. It's practically inevitable, because six of the first first of the rank are the American, so

you got got to be done with a hazard, no, but it's being perellated with all as in sequence,

right? Exactly, exasato. Melerada and a Brazilian is a future in

how you can't you compare to Natalia the last the last adversaries, because you

infantor in the ultimate, the last defunded she puttour a man, Amanda Ribas

that has been a runage in two categories. And now you've got a Natalia that's in a ballad, in Vita

in VAT, but there's less experience, is in this moment, in the first passes of her in the organization. You can't see if you compare to her last adversaries in this sense of, in terms of experience, of the style of the game.

Yes, they're very similar in the sense of hype, even, right, of, to be coming, of sequence of boas, of victories. Yeah,

a Natalia, I just not have not been experience so, you know, in the FC,

but I think I have a good, she has a good good, she's so I,

and all my team we studied about the game of and it is to enter in a

lot of because we don't know when the adversary will be so preending

a so, so, I'm to enter in the little like I

always did with all the things I think she she

does she and what's the better armor in the game to surprise her the game

to show? It would be the way to get her and the question? I think

not even a secret no I like the trocaation I'm very of the process

I'm very aggressive in the part in the part in but my passion is the

my passion I still I still still I don't continue to the FC

and it a want very very I've been lapidand for much

time, my shone, is, doing this migration, do Jiu-Gitzo to M.A. So, I

think I'm in an excellent phase of my career now, that I'm more experienced, I'm using more intelligence

of the last time, the last last few times to come. So I think I will continue

to use my my chown, I'm going to use the next Saturday, that is what

will be surprising, N, Natalia. You're with I'm so much of to finalize a lot

because in the strah it's not a dream you know called out of your name decisions, imagine he's

having to be a mind of the want to get to get to get a much, I've been training

much the my shone ultimately especially in this last camp so the want to

the wantation to be you know, you know, you know, you know, because it was the

future the contract of her, Perlure, was the last lot of your contract also

so it's kind of of the first of the first, it's like, imagine it's a lot more going to

to that that's a lot, this this lute now, this is a lot of I don't,

I don't say that I'm going to enter more less levy, I'm going much a victory,

wanting to go to runking I think with a victory against her No, boarding for

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