MMA Fighting - Trocação Franca | Resenha pré-UFC 287 com Durinho e Glover (e mais!)

Episode Date: April 3, 2023

É semana de Alex Poatan x Israel Adesanya e Gilbert Durinho x Jorge Masvidal no octógono, e o Trocação Franca destrincha tudo sobre o UFC 287 na companhia de Durinho e Glover Teixeira. A invista Jaqueline Amorim também passou pelo podcast antes de sua estreia no card de Miami. A sessão Fight Week também recebe a campeã Larissa Pacheco e Renan Problema, brasileiros que lutam sexta-feira pela PFL. O melhor do MMA brasileiro no Trocação Franca, toda semana, com o jornalista Guilherme Cruz e convidados. It’s UFC 287 fight week and Trocação Franca welcomes Gilbert Burns and Glover Teixeira to discuss and break down Alex Pereira vs. Israel Adesanya 2 and “Durinho” vs. Jorge Masvidal in Miami. The podcast also welcomes UFC 287 newcomer Jaqueline Amorim and PFL fighters Larissa Pacheco and Renan Ferreira. Listen to Trocação Franca with Guilherme Cruz every week to hear from the biggest names on the hottest topics in the Brazilian combat sports world. Follow Guilherme Cruz @Guicruzzz Subscribe: http://goo.gl/dYpsgH Check out our full video catalog: http://goo.gl/u8VvLi Visit our playlists: http://goo.gl/eFhsvM Like MMAF on Facebook: http://goo.gl/uhdg7Z Follow on Twitter: http://goo.gl/nOATUI Read More: http://www.mmafighting.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Trocaation Franca and representing the M.M.A. Fighting in Brazil, Guillermo! Hello, lo, amigued,

the 82nd episode of the podcast Trocaption Franca, a sua house about this immense pot of smearer. I'm

Gailermis, correspondent of the site American, M.M. Fahian, and I'm back

in this week the day of the Brazilian, that will be in action in the FEC and the BFL, be in the fielded and the F.L. The UFC 287, that roland in Miami, I conversed with Gilmer Durin, the astro of the co-luta principal

against Horace Mademoisidao, and the global Tetrera, who is the principal parsecrette, who is the champion Alex Poitaine, who leder the card in the arque-rival, Israel, Adesania. Also, in this same event, have a invite of Jaqueline

the organization with the Sam Hutes. Also, I'll I'll talk interviews with Larissa Pacheco and Renan Problema that's a week on but it's

clear that the point of the podcast this week is the same with Gilbert Durin who finally infrented the

Jesus and the after the time after the car how are the things for him my car

how much I'm mad but nervous at the time I'm nervous to make a good work

he's a man he's a man he's a more afundo for the I'm I see that the defense of his

is very good he has a trocaation good, he's very far over behind

to finalize it's a real repal to he's a guy, more malander than the people are like he

is very malandro and I'm that deficiency is the cardio he does a can't he does a kind of

a cutida he does a but the guy has 51 Lutas Ngu the guy is very

very experienced there's a maradown like the job is being done There's a lot of phases.

There's a lot. There's a job, if it was now, but there's work there to be made to be made. And confiant in a victory good, but I

know that's a lotator. But we know that in the category, is all too emboled, but what you

think that this victory does for you? You think that's a guy that has a lot of a lot more

does this signoron, or is all so uncertain so in this division? I think it's all

depends of how you can't, everything everything will depend of how if I

go to do you do you don't do you do you do a lot of

a lot chata not not does much nothing but not

but I'm I'm the back the his head his his

man he finalize no calte first second round I think maybe me

made a a dispute of the Cinturon, but it depends much of this know, depends of

the Nego said, it depends of how Niko will depend of this. What I can do you can't

try to make to try that and get to get that a Nicarack Durin is that I'm I'm saying

this I'm gonna the man that's merceeing Bota him but to but the rest there's

there, no guarantee there today is sinister know, that never is there that's that's a bad too,

because there's people who are people who are the world, because the Magidal, although he came a of three

derotas, one, the first was a lot of usman, was a lot of it was a lot of a good, and it was a lot

really cool, and so you get a lot, and you dozman did, oh, no, the calltee the car,

the barruus the barruus that's supposed but it's significant when in the concurrence there's

a Colby that's a million too. I think the same Corp perfect.

I'm with my own rationale than you and like the Camaro needs to seven rounds

to knockoutia him. The Colbe Coventon not did in five. If you came in

one and two and I do a form carac so I'm I'm when I

when I when I say I'm when I'm for caraca for this. I'm studying to do you. My mom,

I'm paying a galena to see, these guys who do you do the scout of the loot and see.

I'm investing to get all the details I'm going to get the the defense of his best the

is the people, I just saw, in a scout of the guy that the

the Colby just derobo he in the first round because did a

under a eye if didn't he didn't do no.

And in the second round It's because everyone Remember the Luta was massing In the second round The Mazzal was getting Until one hour

The Kobi Koebe Koebe Meek Kov-meek He was able So it's Back in the

Rounder But we don't remember So I'm studying About this I'm studying To training to carac

For my man My Rman No time No time To get the Fosso Lottery Yeah

Let's see We'll see that it's an ar brabara. No, no, there's more. I have to make the Viscala certain and get there well, I'm going to do with the day and execute all. And my mom,

I have a good performance. And if not, you know, you know, to do it, and even if I get there, I think,

I think I'm, I can't, I can't, then I'll do make, so, I'm doing the service of scout, there,

to assist the LUTA, who is, is a company, a, a, a trainer, how is it, how, How is it?

There are enterprises today, I have the Daniel Mendez, he does for me here, there's other guy who I use

also, a car out of Canada that's very very well, they're they're, they're, they're much

numbers, like, even more a guy with a lot of, there's a lot of people,

there's a lot of the people, he can't do you can't maybe, maybe,

but not will be there, no, there's that kind of that a new a mudance brusque,

so, and then you see various tendencies of the car, it's a he defends a dead

so, the Demi Madrubed he's he's so, the Kov, so the

camera did get up so, but are three guys on the middle, the guys

that were not did he did, Ross Pist no got, he,

he didn't that, that, that he didn't, but he got, but he

got by by the car by by he was finalized, like he then it's

good to these numbers, have these tendencies, you know, I'm going to do this thing he does that

I'm going to get energy there, get to be there and get to get it, so it's also, this also, you

do you, or you just did you, or you just to do you, this scout, assist all the other's

the other, the same what, what the, what the, what the, what the

, what the general evangelist he, he, He's me

mandating this and there many habit of the I'm going to I'm going to give to Daniel Evangelist

which is my trainer there's my trainer and I'm working for Daniel Mendes that I have various tendencies too

that putt Guillae planned I imagine for you imagine that you have been

a surprise because the guy for smoostah all those the luts every every time

you put a do you do you to give a one shoot, a your hand back so, you know,

you think, carlough, I never see this, man. No, I, the Daniel did a scout

me, and I became cabrear that I, I did, I did it a lot of a lot of a lot,

and he came with a scout, like, he had a scout of my battle

against the Magny, and I did a five things in that last you

know, I thought, I'm didn't know, I'm I'm this, I'm,

there, I'm there, I'm, with a impede, like a minute and a half, I'm doing. It's a one thing that I have to put more emphasis in this, and more than more than, that

was a lot in the other, you know, so, so, no, but I, I, I know, the evolution generally when you don't have a lot of marked. Yeah, but I liked this evolution, that my mom does you,

does you, like, you know, say, poth, do you, do, I, have to, move, there, I'm going to, and then, you know, but it's just to make a lot, but,

not for everyone, no, the Nego don't have a so controlled so you're going to not,

be very sincere with you. It's what you know, in the Luta there's a lot to say, like,

yeah, sometimes the guy say, oh, you comment, so, oh, then,

I'm, well, I'm, so, I've got to a list, almost interminable, you know,

and you're saying, oh, I'm sure, you're so, I think you was the put to be the man,

he's a bit, but, you know, in vez, instead of caraca, my my brother, I'm doing this all, my man,

I'm going to start now because I'm going to move this part of and he did, the Daniel did

with me and, man, he has been the doorio before the Rumsah and there's

the doorio and then the guy will start to see difference in defense in movementation

and I think there will have a better and I'm working to be a grab up to

you're gonna do you're two adversaries in what the first scout that I did the

first scout I think it was against the Obama Mercier Ah so you have been so you

have been yeah but I did it with the oh oh oh oh

pts oh oh he's the name he was doing I was a guy that

the canada but now I'm doing in Portuguese very more

detailed down there I do I do I do this

but I I just I have a A lot of time, there were lots

that I, that I don't did, but there were lots that I did much, and I went to do

do that I'm not a lot that's all, I don't have much, that's I did so a lot of

and the the most final I'm doing to so, obviously, not not really

not really you think the the best to work with him even saying that he's good in

bad, after this games of his games, missusado of him, you think

is to do what you always because it eventually to put the Jiu-Gitz to the

game. So, is I'm I'm going I'm going to say to say, say,

yeah, man, I think, I think the way to put it to back back to work

to do a ground and finalization but yeah, but you have a good,

I'm working, I'm a lot over today I'm over but but there

plan of my man, if if case he He will be can't be can't be tired

he will be reflexes will be going to get to if I don't

execute I'm because he did he did a great and this great

he gets much and then second round there third I

think I will be many breaches in par and

it can a lot I can can't do I can

so what I think I'm thinking in the I'm so,

not not defined-as but in the options that I have to work, I'm a really,

really wrestling Jiu-Jitsu in the beginning. If I don't can't define there,

there's there's a drugation, but then we're going to risk a little more so,

after he does a time to I'm trying to be to be a bit more that's

where he's more dangerous, let's be very sincere there, he has a defense of care of a good he has a defense of a show

good but the point positive of his he's a trocaation in he has a good chute have a good box I think is the point positive of his point positive

he doesn't remember of a lot of a lot that he was I was I was coming I was starting to cobring MMA

I was a year and a little he took a triangle inverted in bed of Tobimata who maybe a

something similar of Dorian this is this is a breached what you see the lion is he's

the triangle and he is he's he's he is more malo than people think he

he has a good defense of character he he remember the in Abu Dhab

that he when he came when he went to he was chate because he

did he came over no cabar one did you he rubble one he did I don't

not I'm going to get this energy not if I'm going to keep up a bit because I'm going to

not the first decision of Camaro the first I'm going to get him to get him to get him too when he

did he did not he's just I'm more he'll be here but I think it was merit of the

more Vidal that the people don't do you know that's the kind of the victory important but

I think that's the type of the type of you want to do something similar to put him

in the garage he three houses and put him on the head of the I don't I don't I'm

never I'm never in the question the question the objective no

the UFC is a champion but but I'm solidifying the

my my career all like a top of

my category in but in bus the thing so

with so that there many things together, come patrocines, ven,

fans, a lot of things that I go putting and a lot of a gregg in nothing, like,

not agregn't in a career, it's more a victory, but a victory. Like, financially, momentaneously,

it's good. Point. But the good, it's, like, the fan to say to

and say, car, my mom, the man, the most the fan that was in that one

three months after, for a case, to barra to barra with me in a little bit of

I'm in the lot of your lot of the and I'm I'm I'm sure I'm not I'm in a

whole lot against the against the Steve and so he's being baying there's not not

I'm I don't I don't I'm sure I'm sure I'm a guy, I've seen

when I'm when I'm with a other that my lot with him there was my brother

my brother was in the man was the thing was a part of bizarre that I've got I've got energy

I want this, I'm like it's like that's I'm a victory but I'm I'm also

I'm not you know not does part the, not does part of the amount of the quantity

of study of training that I do you do this for an victory so I don't want

and this and this look in Miami is a house of but also where you

where you live a back Shriamper you you expect that the

territory hostile you, you think that the Brazilian will get in peace to get

to get to try to help the world there. It's not hostile, him,

unfortunately. I think it will have been a time, but we're in Cuba practically

there, but he will be in Cuba he's in his country, he's

he's he's born, but he is born in Miami so, but,

but, but, but, will be all the hostile. At least not will be

the time I'm trying, but I'm still still my brother, my brother. I'm just still

me and the good of the team of the team are the team is very a caracca yeah, if I do a

knockdown, do a quack down, do a person for you but in the beginning, but in the

first will be in Brazil, no Brazil, no, no, the guy can't get the

the guy, the guy, the guy, he's good, he will, he will be that he's been

I think in America Latina entire, in Mexico, like in various places, it's like, so to finish there's a

15th element surruged in a job at, that's the Connor, who will be front to Michael Chandler,

said recently that he's on the cintoron of your person, that if you're going to Michael Chandler,

two people, he's front on the center, you see this amazement, you think

that it's possible he furr a field of everyone going to Michael Chandler? I think it's possible

I just the car the guy, the guy is not being a novel and a bigger

with a old and I think he can't the do some and do

do this and he'll get he to know financially is very

good for the FEC entire and will get this braunc

in this brand of the world no don't see

it yes, yes, they've done he's in, but I think he going to see

he's he's a bronca and maybe he's a lot of I'm not I'm thinking

in this but it but it's maybe, he's going to do what, like, today,

today, money talks and the money, and the guy has the power man,

it can't be the maybe it can't be that, if it's happened and come that I'm

there's there's there, my man, encheo the burrow of of the water there, man. But,

let's see what what happens so he has the power to gain and imagine just he going to

I think the event against Michael Chennaner will be the event the event will sold out

where for and if he gain that this the battle the Michael no

Michael is so local the Chendel is so lowco is able to even train

the wrestling for this lot of so loco, I'm like, like, I'm going to

go so send in a porrada, I'm going to do you know, maybe do you know, but I'm going to use.

It's this loco, and then it's a lot of the local, the Kono gets with more chance to

get in it's a time, but it's not, but it can't be all the depends

for the plans that you can't do the good, so, poor, so,

so, boy, so, that makes a great Lute, who empolg and that

Vosci your center of my my name. Amen. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. And now we

direct to talk with Glover Techeera that's a finalize the fourth Lute Lu Boatan against the Sann

against the Sannes. You know, the other side of the line, we have been Gluvertecheera, and now is, you know, Yeah, of preparation for this

Luta, the revenge, the fourth Lutton, the second, the second, the end of the F.C. Yeah, car, we're going to be a felliz-a-so with this Lut. I think, por, a lot of a lot,

great, for Alex, grand for the F.C. For everyone. And, focused. Focado, so, so, the trainer, to Alex, I don't

even take this credit, because the Alex, he does, as you say, I help, he's just, I do, he's very much, he me helped a lot, my last few, my last

last few times, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm doing, I, we're talking, but he's doing, he does,

he prepare, like I, more or less or more, he, he tries the car, he, you know, the guy, that he,

he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he's, he's, he, he's, he, he's,

he's, he, he's, that he was born in Orlando I suppose I'm a sobre the name of his name but he tries the physiotherapist the preparator physio and the guy's all right and we

do this team here I feel like looking at the Sparring and the Panelli and the Panelli also is there we're looking at a sparrie and doing the stock yeah car Chocolidell

there's a possibility of Chocoladel Ving here just is looking there because this month now is Chocolidele L'Ele L'R but He was talking on the other some of the other

things for he was doing on the Rook and we're talking we're talking we're talking about to work here,

here in the Rook here, here, I said, Pchok, maybe you may you come here in Canerrick

here, some days there, he's here with with a person, I'm sure, I'm going

to look and you he just did a response a sabbado and maybe he

will be there to pass with with a time. Maneer, the speciality of the car

is the trocaation, the church, and he, for the career he had been much success against the against the

and a job, but it's a lot of the job that's that's a thing is a speciality there, but the

the guys know the what you see you know, you think you think the you're actually

that the two-lac in the kick-box, they've done a lot of the FCA that was a one more

a lot more more than the two other ladys, that's different of kick-box and it

clinch? But what you think you, you expect that the ADS mean that would be

the other maybe correcting, correcting the errors of the other others.

No, there can move much, no, nobody, you will move much. You will

look and see what that works more for you, like I did my last

my last in my last, in the end, so putting to be

to be He got me in a strike, I gave some knockout, I became a bit of impolgated, then I was, for I got to go, to walk, to go,

and we'll see, with some of the some other than you get, that's there's a lot of poor, I've got to be brought up to back, you see,

all the lute, this last one of the last one, we think, we, we're, I'd have chutated more, chute the pern of

him, He sent him the hand, he should have been there should be the things

like that's things like I think will come a little different, try to try to make

a velocity with a angle that he asserted the we're sitting a lot and he

will try and he will try better this. And the same thing he got to success there and explore more

this but to do it's complicated because What you will find? For example,

the Adesan, he could put the Patan on the chan, in that he was in that he came, came up to come up to

the same, and he made that round and derubing to the Patan, getting in the course, but you

will say, ah, po, is, perhaps he will, he will, because he

not, he's not, he can't get to rob, but it's, but it's not easy to robatana,

you know, and he he's not that's to do, ah, will like you will be able to work. It's going to

now he will go to just try to put it to put up back up back up he's not

he will be I think he will explore that that velocity there, that he shooting in the

legna that was he was in finalzino but do do it not there don't have

much much you know a fourth victory of Poatan maybe more

a knockout and then end up this this rivalid or you think there still

there still there there is there a possible a Ladesania did the

way to get the return to the general I'm I think in the box

there's people who had people who'd have been five years, but it's it would

be, poche, no, the UFC, it's because fawda because the guys

were in other events different, it's complicated, for example, the kick

box, the guys lot lot with one with six, seven seven

months, because the It was like Jujits, poth. Fant of times the Jackar

Lutted with the same car, the Roger Grins, I'm with the same car, or

Gordon Ryan, because the UFC, is the more difficult here, but it, with a

certain, with the possibility to have a third lute, so, because if the

Pottan are getting, or independent of any other than, but, with a

certain. No, it's a five no, there's five, some three

the UFC, right, the two on the kickbox, yeah, it's, there's

the point, the Poitam even said the record, right, but he said, zero to zero to

now, I'll start to get to know, you know, and it's in the

head of that's in. And, I'm talking about your new

life, yeah, that will be corner of Poatatat again,

it is difficult to find athletes that were of the altissimo level in the MMA and succeeded this

this work of a high level also exalted much the abhabil what is what is

the great difficulty that you see that you've lived everything you've lived all that you got to

the garage on the side the side of the other sometimes you like this this is this here

it's a this is it's a feel as a other than what the what is

what is what is what is a difficulty in this this job, like, I think,

the difficulty is, I think, the people, like I, it depends of each one, every one, every coach,

will have, your, you see, with the, Kibb, too, more than, with me,

with him, with a style of he train, the style of him, I'm talking, the guy,

it's a thing very better, the wrestling, but, that he's, that he's that he's,

that he's training strong, that he training that that's that's you know, and not

it's a train strong, and at times the difficulty that I have is the people are

that they're a talent a danado but they don't want a car and as a bit

porra car, this car can, I don't want to try to tryna

the the mulek the young they're having all the opportunities

and at and at these don't have this ganas, this is a want to do, just do you,

just do you know, if you don't say nothing to the car, the guy, the guy that's there

is that's there, po, that's the guy that's that's not, I'm talking to the aral no,

but this is this difficulty that I think I think, I think, I, have I,

have a, I'm a point, a man, that's a car that's a car but these guys are

so many you're like in the job there's waiting the and you're waiting the patron man, you're you're thinking you're not there's a lot of

but I'm going to be able to because if the patron don't say nothing I go get the money of grace I don't

I'm getting like if the coach not say if the coach not I'm going I'll be a day good today

it's like it's like it's I never think I'm I never think so if the coach

not said you if the coach not you don't know for him. Oh, Coach, what's what is to

do you? I'm going to do you can't do? Can't do. There's some guys that does this,

you know? There's the people who do it's a difference, there's a new, that's starting

now that's that's the majority don't do. Then you think so, poe, the guy,

no care. But you get my a little bit of a bit of some people who

some people who some people who sometimes I think I have because I I want to help the people

I don't I'm here for I don't know not a bitch you I'm a I'm a

academy even if I have an academy just for a fitness you know for a kidness let's get

the person and forget the loter and forgets I'm gonna get back for caram because

the academy gets lot the people get lottada the people goaster the class the

I'm training. I'm a art. But, but I'm in coach because I want to go to go to get a man in the academy and pass

to him and try to help him to try and make a champion. It would be a dream of my sony too,

to see, and from the first of a kid who came to train with me and be a champion world.

Oh, this is a man, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, but I'm still

the same time, poor, The guy has to want to be it because if not it's not no end up

with the with a man and the guy who want to be a lot but he's a lot of

with the obviously with with Adesana and the state who made this interview here,

there's there's the and all who are who is who are he's a zero

against the adesani he's he's he's surprised it's a opportunity good of

the people to make a guy he's is a Azarone, apisade to be the

front of the placar there? Yeah, apostia who can yeah, yeah,

who can and the guy, I don't see, how the people, the guy,

bish, it's complicated, yeah, because you see the poor, the poor, the

man, per per die three years, he Patel, is a trained for

caram, you know, they're training there, and, with the The order the guys passed on a patam

to get this money because, pocha, man, I'm not so pass a doce, I don't show neither lotteria, car. It's going to start now the session Fight Week

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now, now, now, a new new a second million of dollars to a more a title. But Mirro, Larissa, how is it being this expectative for

more one year? And now, with the coroner, now, now, the raina of the Leves of the NFL. It's, it's, it's, it's been agitada, because yeah, I'm going to, I just having, I'm going to have to be prepare psychologically for this peso of campaign. So, now, now, it's a new phase, right? In fact, it's a continuation of this phase, which is a one, I think, like, a phase of the

game in which I still didn't have seen, even I don't have seen, how is the so I'm so I'm well,

I'm used with this, me preparing just to the next time, and then it's a big of a

million, not, no. Not bad, no, a million of dollars. What did you do you

what's your life? I post that has been apparently, I'm sure, I'm sorry, what's all,

this, all this, good, how time? Remember of me? It's, I'll

open the bank for Checo because many people are asking me asking to pay for money

but it's part of part yeah, I think not just with me that's just that's just

that any person who can get a a good a good a good a

good and come so family poverty and have these

things like it A friend who did the school there's a fundamental, people that never more had me had been made

a boy and this time, but this does part I know, I know, I'm doing to do it with this, even because I

had some some times, I've got some that I've gained, for the moment, but I've gained a little bit,

and that's things just happened, and that's part, I don't, I don't me batte much

with this no. But what what did the good of the life? The

life Now, it's not a very important. Sure, with a lot of extravagant in my life. I bought an apartment. I bought a car for me, which was the car of my sonnors, I bought a car for my mother, I mobiliere in my house,

and today I paid the money's dividends, because, I was in a situation in that I had to do a lot of money to work to and pay these funds. Today I'm coming a time without any account any. So, this I just made more comfortable,

This helps with that my training is better. It's a help my psychological, so it helps, the comfort, it makes with that we train more,

train more, care more. What are the car of your dream that you can't get to be able to do you realize? I've got to

a Honda Civic for me. Manier, mania. Now you're just just disfian and patroa. Yeah,

passing. Yeah, very good. And in your career, I imagine that to have this solidity financial, it'd give a lot more

tranquillity to you'd start a new time, because before you had a dream of the same, of course, be a champion,

but there's this premium in the final that the career that would give the rest of the life,

you know, of this side of the lot of you enter more more than this year, continue,

continuing a centuron, continue getting a million of dollars, but there a piece

in favor of you because the side financial, not more a problem for you? Yes, there,

and not have, there, there's the the centeron, of the kind of like,

I'm not, to, I'm, imagine, I'm a first champion of two

categories of the PFL, which is a organization that's a great a caram

and I came to disbanked I'm in Vick is there a tantas so many

credits and some things that I want to make my curriculum, I want so that

my name is in great places, I want to the people know that the people need, where I

can't get, where I can't get. So I think like all the athlete, I want to continue to

grow up, but I'm my 28 years, I'm going to complete to 29, now this

year. So I still have a time in a career, even there still to

do a time to make a much work, and then then then, and then

to appreciate the life. So this is the part pesed because

it's the part of the motivation that I want to continue to grow and the

the piece of the discomfort to live thinking I don't can

get a contract I don't I can get a lot I don't I don't

because if I don't I perco the chance to grow and

perco the chance to better to better than this part

that the money me this comfort that me give me, me, me,

I mean, me, I'm with more motivation, to make the other other side, right? With the idea. And the lot of the lot of the

lot of the lot of people, you know, your next adversary, will be a Julia Budge. And it's interesting,

everyone was everybody was that the way, the way, so, was to be the BFL just casable

and you against a Karah Harrison again, but the Kailer not want to enter in the playoff,

in in the tourne in a busk of a million that's this way that you're doing.

How can you see this situation? Because this is a lot that everyone wanted to see that's probably maybe

maybe even happen this year, not because she's in the playoff so you are kind of

in the playoff and she's not yeah, I never I never I never I never

I never I never I never used in the event for me. So, so, a Kail,

she got a lot, she got to the NFL, more the patrocene, but the visibility that

has, so I think she is a fact that she is a lot of what she wants, are great names and greats,

maybe she needs a time to be a time to be able to what really is going to know,

and want to do you now, I'm, like I'm in relation to my identity,

I still still much new. I still has been much thing to grow to and to

keep in working, simply because she she not want in this moment or if they don't

want to continue working I'm doing doing the part and this is good for me because I

continue maintaining the rhythm I continue no focus I'm I'm I'm adapt

better the category and have a possibility to embox more a million and me

turn a champion of two categories in the PFL So, are much more advantage for me than to do

do you have a lot of a lot of her now. Because a lot with her now would be, but everyone wants to see, it's a great key of this

would be money. And today, money, not my motivation. In fact, the money, never was my

motivation to be the sport. It's always to love the sport. Because if were for money, I would,

90% there of the athletes, would have because we know the majority of reality,

at least of the atlantis Brazilian, is that everyone veed the back. It's that you don't have money to pay, that I don't have

the money to the money, the friend or the partnerer help, that has a friend and he helps, and he helps,

and there's a marketin and it's so we've been a person uncious, and God me live,

long of this, know, never was the objective. Obviously, the more more money I can't,

but I'm more, I don't need submetre to certain things and to go to get to

get to get to get to get to I'm going to get to find out of that's like that you're doing,

want to want to work, want to want to hear the energy and get the people, that's trying

all the kind of, that's a lot, that that's really, that's a kind of this type of

thing that me motiva continue to not the money. You would have some a thing

they could make a to convince you not to not to not in a playoff this year

and make a lot of the yeah? Oh, with a problem. Ah, with certain, yeah.

They could really, it's not offering a good, or at a minimum to be able.

It's not. It's obvious. Yes, with a time. But I'm talking with the relation

so, I'm going to have to wait the moment that she can to

fight, for that I can be to be doing? So the

PFL me offered the playoff offered a CISO so I got to

say I'm I'm going to do do you know? No initial the

question was the question of the question of category of 70 I'm

a monster so for what I want to know a a

a but but it is a I do a job at

I'm I know I'm able to get this piece. So it I'm

conversed with my tech, with my technical, I'm the case the

the Joeo, a little with Jukon I'm a Alex Davis who is my

company, a guy we said so, and then we're saying, let him talk with a

professional to pay per the quality, because today I don't want to risk the

my best and my health simply just to do you, so to make the possibility, we'll see the possibility, we're going, do you? It's not, do,

do you, do, do it, so, then, we'll do do it, we'll finish? Let's see, it's it. So, so, the possibility of this,

this revanch, in the case, this quarter with her, it's an awesome to hype for me, it's,

it's great, because it's going to me grander more and gain to her another every time,

end up patting this situation, this two a one, it would be great, but I don't will be waiting

for her, I'm going to keep in front, I'm going to keep a much time parable just to not lose a rhythm,

not to get a focus, and be able just being in house, training, more or less,

coming, I'm, I'm not more accustomed in this rhythm, I'm I need,

I need to continue in this pegada, to get to get to to get to get to

I want. And how is you see this decision of of her to not enter in the

year? I'm I'm I'm understand. I think if I think it's

no patamar that she was in money, but like money and having

the possibility and having the certainty of a contract, po no, relax, you have

you have a contract so, I'm like this car, I'm really, I'm

need, I need to some time to assimel what's what's happening and to decide what the

way I want to continue. So I possibly do the same the same way it's the only you know, and you have

confidence that this other can't be this year? This year, this year, by the decision of her?

No, I think by the decision of her maybe not not with me, I think

not, because I don't, because I'm going to depend, it's been to a season,

that for me not being, not being even batten the book, I don't seem arrogant, but I think it's a, it's a very advantageouser for me. it's practically saying that I'm bolstery more, more a centauron there. So, to stick it. I'd have to pay very, very very very very

very much, man, the equivalent to what she has received, to be, to put it, to do fact, happen. And just for we can't be the expectation of this other contrary, Julia Bunch, how is you gain of

this point-a-incial of the, the time of the year-oldeat, I see that pick, a moleke-de-roa-huh, man,

when I enter there, I'm transformed in another person, so, so I, I bott, everything I have, I think, I've goted and resented

my heart to to try to stay with a victory, with a gunna, to wincer, right? So I, I see that she want to try a porrada

with me, we'll go back a porrata, because I goast of this adrenaline to try a porrata. If she wants to go to the chown, we go to the chown

also, so it's all the all here, I don't, I don't, I'm not one of the the point of

none of the neither of the last the last time. Maniro, Larissa thank you. Good luck in this year year and the other

million. Oh, thank you want to say, we'll be so after this last time after this next little bit of

this million this year, I'm sure that will get to get to the other side of line we have the Renan

Ferreiro, Renan, problem, that on the day seven, now, back the jaul

the Jolla and start the camiada and comeyada and the podcast, is going to this expectative

for more one year in the NFL in the future of the central in busk of this check gordy. So,

man, training a lot very focused for this next next a little a different in the front

but we're always focused with the objective in the victory. You've got with the Riz van Cuniev,

a guy that's getting now in the PFL that's that just passed

by the contendercive and it was the he was got embaled in a a good sequence of

victories then what what more you know the what you know the what you know

what you know he's you know he's a guy he's a kind of he does a

little bit of he's he makes a put an break up a try he comes to make

that he kind of putting to put up back and he and it also and

a distance is a different so it's a kind of very alert with him, we're we're trying to working a lot

all the fallas that he has in the game to be in the those those goals. You've, there's success in the last

years in the NFL, yeah, and I can't get to get the centuron, but how you can't be

this year, is more maduro, is the better prepared for this challenge, confiant

that, now, now you can get to get in the final and get this centuron, then?

In the last years, I've some of the reasons, some things that happened. But this year, I've been to the States New York,

I'm training in America Top Team now. I'm moving totally there, aggregating more some other things to my game,

so I'm going to get totally different for this time. How is you your evolution as an athlete training at

in the T.T.? Who, one of the most of the world, in terms of the time, so,

with a certainty, the amount of the athletes tops that they have, the UFC, of all the events, and more in this

category, you have a great variety of athletes, car of specialists in a trocation, car specialist in the Jiu-Git,

how is you have seen the role of an athlete, since you got to be the other the attention

that the teachers have, the complicity that the athletes have the compromise, and always the guy

me abracos very well, always trying to help, agregate to some my job. So,

me I was in in-cassed very well I felt that I gave a very very good

there's a new arms to my my job so I'm super-fellice man. What I'm

those guys most close of you in the day-a-day in the training training the guy that's

the more does sparring so the person is Marcel Gohn the Cigano

also too and this this guy all peasantona yeah

the Sergei too of the FC, that he was also. There's a gamma there, grand athletes, that I'm trying to sugar the maximum there, to try to learn a little

with cada. There's great athletes, but there's some guy great, but you, I'm a guy very high, I have a metto-93, but when I'm from your side, I'm feeling very

very bad. There's someone who can have rivalized with you in terms of time? Or you really are like a torre like the whole world? So, there's a guy

there's a guy, there's a great, the ser gay, is very great also, the Marcelo Bon,

is a an guy Alco, a guy great, there, and there a biton

also, he's going to a moment of a of a little a

but it's a two meters and six, so he he also participated

in the selectiva of the NFL and it's a guy gigantes and he

but this guy really really very very the guy all

every day all a world very compromised so, for me,

it's being a great for me, for a guy of a guy who is a bigote

the guy really should be immense, yeah. Oh, too great. You said,

you said, you know, had to have to have been a lot of stuff, in the

thing, one of things that's most of the time, it was

all the whole thing that whole thing, the last, the day

second, trocar a result and all when I'm so much a way that's the way that was led

and having anolated the law more justificative that was given by the defense of Verdon

and that he would be a kind of kind of that's a thing that makes much

sense seeing the the time so how that that you make sure with you

you cameod and you abalor in the your trajectory of the

PFL because it was the the most of your career, the adversary of the major name, you've beenceau, and then the day next,

you know, I'm just in justiciated, because, boy, in any moment I came to batte, I was in a position comfortable, I was in a lateral,

he was playing a triangle on the pantorill, I was feeling pressure, there was a moment that I perjade the head of

I, I paltpey to gopire, and the guy put in slow-moch there, apparently that I had batted, but in any

moment I I didn't break of goal-bye, and no moment he fruched

the position, you know? And, boy, and it happened this, the guy, reverted

this result there, and I'm really, I received many, I was terrible in the

beginning, but I was very blinded, very focused, you know, and I

brought to try to everybody who I really were, I really did, did many

other other, I, many, many, many, I, I,

I, I passed for the same of all this and I'm I'm going to my value in

the organization. You know, lamented that never never had happened to a revanch to be able to

put a limp, and try to get a question, maybe it's a image that was of

some people in this lot? Ah, with a question, I think he there,

I think there had a rematch immediate, the guy meto that was that was

lesionado, who took a porrada in the head, that's the doctor prohibit and and then

never more wrote, he said, he said, went in numerous things, entered in the personal, said, but,

so, what's what I'm really, it's like, I'd be this revanch the more rapid

possible, but not happened, but not the life that's I'm focused in this

next year now, in this next year, now, I'm living my moment. Incomodoo,

he had been a guy sujo to have been to have done on this side of the person

um, uh, because I'm like I'm like I'm not I'm going to talk about your character,

of your indol, then it's then it's it's not what the other is, it's what I'm

talking without saying and have no, no, any, no, no,

any one any problem of that so I think he was very very much he,

he if he if he if he would be if he would probably

improable that that this this this lot, I think he don't have

any more contract with the PFL and if were to be in the NFL I don't know if they're

not in this lot of the fight if he would have to be made to do that's a work that's what has the

story of the kind of this background there's this rivalry that was created a maybe it

would be more money and would make more more more attention yeah

oh with he's a bagged he's trying to get to the box

trying to go to the MMA and it's a maybe perished but if a lot of this is a lot of this

year, and about this year, what you think you think is the the most the major the major

dureza that can that can be a front in the room to this

million of dollars in the premenation of the year so many so the

adversaries that are there have observed a lot, the guy was very

very good, and everyone very well very well very well very well and this format of GP

also is a format that it's a good for you know, but you're good, but after

two, three luts, after to have passed for two three camps,

I don't how much how much I'm how much I'm not I'm not I know

the gp, I know how the same all the people are that are that are very good

and I will be very prepared for to come to any front.

The dream is to finish the year with a million dollars in the bourse a centuron? With a

course, this is the consequence marvellousous that I want to have this signetown

to come to house and move to know, but what you would you would you would you

if he'd if he'd if he would be if he were some much plans,

it's a mudance a mudance a but you think you I don't can't

I'm just even, like, what I would do first, I think I always

always went to every way, you know, living in a moment, and focusing on what I have to do.

But, like, would be the life, I'd rather, the life, there's a lot of the

last of the last year, that's the first of the after a year, after today, it's impeccable

in the MMA. Jack, well, the podcast, how it's being the expectative,

for to enter in Oktogne for the first first time. Thank you. So, the expectations, I'm also talking

today with my trainer, that I don't see the hour to get a time of the time of the time,

so, because these two years before the lot of the work, it's been made, we're doing, and it's

preparing to the pace and all, the expectations are the other, I put up the job

during this camp that I did in America Top Team. I think, I think, I've

I've evolved much, I think, I me, not, because I'm doing Jiu-Gitzo,

but for M.M.A. was different. So I think I'm evolving about to apply the Jiu-Gitzo in the M.A. and all the

best of the time. I don't see the the hour to get to get to the other than the Lutut, you know,

because it's a start, you know, you just a show, you're a time to be the time to

be the time to be there, you know, you're not, but, you're saying, there's a career in

Jiu-S, how is this process of, adaptation for MMA, how is it you've got to have made this

career in Jiu-Jitsu to prepare for moments like this to do, do you know, because some various,

in a world of Jiu-GITs how is it compared to make the VESP to make, for example, a defense of the centurial or then to

start in the FIA, how is, the emotions pre-tornier are so compare, so I'm I'm very different

because in Jiu-Git you, you know, not just for one person, normally you have three, four luts,

until the final, you know, like a chavit that's a little, like a chavit and you're gonna be a little bit, for a person,

in specific, right, for your adversary. The two have a difficulty like, different, you know,

but I think, with the Jid, so, I've got to that, you know, I'm going to get there, that's not a

thing I'm going to get, like, like, because I'm, like, when I'm used to like,

when I'm a American, so I'm just with this, with this grand tournament, so, in your

so, So I think that part of the JITU me helped me help me. I trained Jitin'JITU since I've always always always had in my life this time total. So it's like,

it's a little my life all to be in my life all to be in this moment. You, you, the main team that formed the Jekar-E and other great names, you're being more

more new than the Jacare, of course, how is it, how it was, if the Jacare was a guy who you inspired? Who, who was,

who looked at me, I thought like, he was a career maria and then he was a

how it was a idea of the interest of the you're a kind of was a

kid who's so you're like a five years people think oh I'm going to do you're

doing to get to get to but but the transition for MMA was

the choice so how is this decision to make the the decision to

make so that so my actually he was my my dad he's

he's fan of art martial of the the FC and all. He put on the GIFC, I had

five to six years. I always I always had, I always liked, I remember that was in the FITDA, even was this thing thing

of SMN, combat, not it was in the FITDA, and we had a video, and I had always always thought very very cool,

but in the time, not had the MMA feminine, it was more masculine and all so, so I said I

will continue in Jiu-GITZ and conquest all the I wanted, that was a world, Pan American,

me to help create a name that was when when I'memey feminine started to grow and I thought that's in the I always

always I always I always when I was in mymia but I just I wanted to compete much in Jijits

and not not to do to do you don't do you know, I'm gonna all, all the I have to do M.A.

And it was so it was I was waiting a certain moment in not really to be able to make a transition

to M Miamah. Your father liked to MMA, you puttow in Jiu-Sys, but how is he reacted when he said when you said

when you said you were in him to do a mhmia? In fact, he always always he always

really, the reason to the reason to not the arts, and he's because of he's super

animated, he's coming until the week, he will be going to be there he's

going to be a new it's a thing we're always and he's there's like he's

he's very happy. imagine that your career until today in the MMA let's him a little more more than you take the last

lot of your last long as four minutes to wince the other you know you well,

it's a little more than a round if you sum to all the so you get to make a

finalize knockoutia there's even a knockout in 10 seconds so this imagine

that for the heart of it gets more you can't you enter and you end

and terminus service rapid, no, with certainly. We have talked to try, my friend also, I'm saying, I say, you have to get to get to see a number of round, because then, your father, will be nervous, and go to the second round,

but I always always, but I always say, I'm going to be able, because if you're going to be prepared for everything, we're going to get to all, so, so, I'm going to get to do you, I want to finalize a lute, so I want to finalize a lute, so one of the objectives for my start, too, so let me.

you have done a career that did the career that the quality of the titles that you've won't have

you put in your adversaries for the most that you just have six luts professionals you're

you're at the same because for much that she has let's 12 luts

15 of MMA none of them did none of none but some

of them did a carrie in the pano in the Jux competing

on the Jiu-Jitsu also. So, I don't say I'd say I'm not here but I think all the

experience that I created in Jiu-JITs me helped very M.A. It's very different. Obviously, that's the

two sports different. It's for that when I went to to M.A. I was just Jiu-Gitz. I could be by the

Sprague and all. So, so that I did the transition to a team major because I

wanted to evolve, no M.A. I don't want to be just a lot just a athlete, so.

I said, not for me just, it I'm very in the front, like, I'm considered a great grappling, so I don't see if

the other men are, but what I want to focus is in a lot lotator, a better at M.MA, both in my technique on the same, as well, in my wrestling, in the Jiu-JITs. So I think, yes, in, in course, the Jiu-Jitsu, I just have a little in the Jiu-Sat, because I have this

base of Jiu-Sat, so the most focused on now is to make my procaation and and all, and it's, and it's prepared for all, no, just for Jiu-Jitsu. The other Sam Hughes,

as you like she, she was in she was a campaigner and she was she was a time,

but she was the only way she was finalized in the MMA, was in this trot of the syndrome that

she did it she did her as an other way how is that that's a case that this job

was a lot of, but it was was a lot of the decision so, so it's a athlete that's not

so far so it's not so So I'm, I'm a lot that she's a lot of that she's. I'm a an adversary very d'all, much more experience than I, in the case, as you said,

I've been very, the lot of, you know, I think she's a lot more intelligent, conforma the lute but I think she'll go to a person like I, like a grappling like I, so I think that's going to be difficult to her.

But I'm a good but I believe that not will be a little, like, not I'm trying to look a lot far as, and it's I'm going to put up to

to do that. I hope to move my game, with my game, I'm sure I respect her, but when we get in a cutagana, I want to enter there to finalize the Luta. And to the heart of your Pyrton 1st, or you're going to, or you're going to be a little bit more?

Ah, we're having to have a little bit more of the course, we don't care of it, we're not going, but my objective, for sure, is if I can't get in the position, I want, I, I want to finalize, with a certain, I want to whatever, but this Luta Forteis-Torchal, we also, we're ready for, because we're training

much for this, so we'll see, I said to my father, I'm going to go to the

first time, we're going to be able to all the we're doing to get a lot, no matter

how. Manure, Jackie, thank you much for the time for the time, and rebenta

in this start at the new fcc very much. Thank you. Thank you. A. We're getting

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