MMA Fighting - Trocação Franca | Resenha sobre Copa do Mundo e UFC 282 com o “Argentino Gente Boa”

Episode Date: December 7, 2022

Semana decisiva para a Argentina no futebol e MMA, com os hermanos enfrentando a Holanda por uma vaga nas semifinais da Copa do Mundo e Santiago Ponzinibbio buscando voltar à boa fase no UFC 282, e o Trocação Franca recebe o “Argentino Gente Boa” para falar de futebol, MMA e tudo mais. O podcast conversa também com Juliana Velasquez, que parte em busca de vingança contra Liz Carmouche pelo cinturão do Bellator, na sexta. It’s a big week for Argentina in soccer and MMA, with the hermanos playing Netherlands for a spot in the 2022 World Cup semifinal and Santiago Ponzinibbio looking to get back on track at UFC 282, so Trocação Franca welcomes the Argentine fighter to talk all things soccer, MMA and more. The podcast also features Juliana Velasquez ahead of her championship rematch with Liz Carmouche on Friday’s Bellator. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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and representing the MMA Fighting in Brazil, Guillermo! Cruz. On the on the 25th episode of podcast, Trocaation Franca,

A Suhuis about MMA in this immense podaspera. I'm going to I'maqruis, correspondent of site M.M. FIREO.

in Brazil, and I'm sorry on the company of San Diego Ponzinebe and the Argentino J. Boa,

who lute in Lofc in Las Vegas. To talk a little bit about Alex Morrow, not be, of Rueb Loller,

that was he got a little a little bit of a adversary in SOMOW, to talk with him to talk with him, obviously, Copa of the

World, it's happening Copa, which is the principal event sportive for the Brazilian in a year, right? A genteel and Brazil, can't be front on the end of final, we're talking about this, too. The podcast also has the participation of Julianna Velasch, but we obviously will talk about first with

the Santiago Ponziinibio, and is the other side of the line, direct of Las Vegas. All right, my man, Mew, how are you? How are things going to be? My week, with a lot going to be a lot more, but we're here, the

lot of the people, I'm a good campment, of course, I'm prepared for a style the style of Robert Ruey Daule.

The Morono has a different to start a country and a character, but I have the

abilities and the ability to win the Mora. I'm a manor an athlete that's a

very, 24 victories and he is getting eight of the last two years in the

last few in the other time. So I didn't have the time to prepare me to

him, I think, as I said, I have the conditions to gain of him. And, you know, in the life, maybe the things are not in a way perfect, but we can make that it that's become perfect, you know? When I went to enter in an Octagon,

the Saturday, I'd be able to lift a brazo, everything will, it will be, it will be for the better, you know? So, I'm content that I'm happy that I'm glad that, I'm glad that

Alex Mono has said this desire. We had to pass a piece parted, because I didn't get to 70 I was in a year I was saying super well

I thought I'd like that the last year I'd like that but I'm better I can't eat now I'm more

more than this question and and then we combined we're making 180 libres in the hour

of the Lutus does do something or no no no

no it's very good It's good. Because he was to get to get to 50 Libra

if really really to get a short-past it was very difficult to get a lot of because

he's not a threat for a man who can get to win a minute, and I

putting a victory over him and it was very good for my career

so if he he not could get a 170 I don't have no problem

to have got for I said I did a good work

previous I'm very with the officer, I'm very conform with the work with the job

that's important to it's important it's about the job in the case, do the more

doing that's for me more important the Robb Lohr has a story much major, like a

ex-campion of the F.C. There's all the baggage he has he

had a power of his time he would not was so good than the more than

the Moron not the you said, what you think you think for you would be

a lot of you would be a lot of a lot of a lot of things, not would have a impact

so great than you go to get the morono? I think to wincer the morone

is more important maybe not not in a moment, because we have to we have to

an moment of the athlete, the laurel still not had been the moment, it's

very champion much a lot, no But I think that I think to win the Moro no means for the ranking

than to wincer because the Morono you're talking about 10th last year three years. A lot of the guy who's being

being being being competitive so I think a good victory over him will prove that I'm to the

to the military. In terms of sture of the what can move? Muda.

Muda much things? You obviously I don't have time to prepare to great

modern the game of the game of the game of would be similarities in your

strategy, yes, it's not quite because one is Canyot and other the different

combinations, but I have a capacity and the knowledge of the knowledge of the Cajot,

no the right. Because it's a I have this capacity, I have a M.A.

It's I've got a lot of I've got a lot of many years he's a lot of he's in the sense he's in a

lot of a little striker he has a shixto decent, he has somemettiments but he

not a wrestler of high level he doesn't try to back back but not a guy

that will come to me derubing and he will come that's good that's good

if you've been maybe an athlete that only would be to come to make

a lot a conditionment different. So, as a striker, this is legal,

will have to make some reassure technical, but like I think I have a capacity and the

knowledge and to make this time, and make a great performance in this time.

And after the event, you will try to try to this lot of

you know, it's a lot, you have a time, or you have a page

virad? I had paid time, I don't never really, I

I was talking a luther with Barvarenna, and the group was always always ended up this lot of the

I don't ask you but I'm actually had been I'm in especially modern,

he's more than was a lot of the fans wanted for the style

of both but I'm not focused in that this matter to be

so I don't happen but if I don't I have other objectives now

my objective is to top de end to

confront the the When I was in a little bit of a little bit of the title I was going to be in the world. And I think that like, after I was going to get riddened, you know, because I went to the end up with a drop, a fatality, a lot of that was starting.

And then I got a good lute with Baezza, but also in the last two luts, were with two guys very hard. Ambos were in a split decision. Both I think I got in, many chances that I got in. But it's been trying to the two victories,

it would have been trying to a record of 10 victories and a one of the last 11th, and that's all the last year, but, unfortunately, with the two derotas, this objective was a little bit more loach,

so I'm just focused now in what I was in the victory, to show my capacity to win a 30 that that comes in a crescent and a threat that came with consequences of victories.

to win him, to get a to get a top five, you can take this opportunity for the world

for the for the whole of the idea. And you have someone in mind that you

think it's an another interesting to you know to do the time to get to get a

position privileged in the rank we've had been last the Stephen

Underboy Thompson getting of Kevin Holland a good a good

a big impugent and it was a lot of was been

been was been by the public in the past you, and you're the other that you think it's

that would be a lot that would be a lot of I'm in a lot of I'm in the opportunity

to show, but there many other athletes, but the strikers always I think I think a manor

so I'm a great presentation, a name of them of them and the Vincent Leuke

is a guy who has a very good and a style a frontal and

we have potential to make a legal. There are various guys there that I think I could make a great lot. Then there are other guys in the top

five, but I'm not going to be talking to a top five, because I know that's going to be a lot of five, between a day with a good victory, it could be more realistic. But there are many names there. And just for we just to finish, that you're in this

corredia, of a few days before the pesages, the lot, and so, you're glad to thank you. Thank you. I'm not saying much for to find a

a new agenda to to talk about to talk about to the world with you know with you know the Argentina

yeah, Argentina is a carcified to the quarter of the final will infant the olanda and who

pass are the winner the best of Brazil and you know, you are confident that the

Argentina pass to the olanda how it's a expectation for this game

for this game, the old the Olana is a very well yeah it will be

very a show very Normally, now you're playing well, the Cup of the World,

like a lot here, the United, it's a very competitive, everyone is dangerous, everyone good,

but I think the Argentina is trying well, MES, is a different really, I'm a different

really, I'm going to make a MES and what's doing the selection, then we're doing the team,

we're in the Saturday we're going to start very soon to see the show, and then

certainly the semifinals Argentina and Brazil that's it's very difficult you're going to be a real Brazilian you're a major

you're in a person who's part of the final Brazil Argentina has to actually to be sure I'm saying

I'm sure I want to I'm in Argentina I'm my country but but if

Argentina not win I want I want to I'm in Brazil if Argentina to lose for Brazil

I want to I love, I love, I love to love the football of them, I like I think they're that they're

so much and I like that the country American gain because despite the rivalities and all this

things that I think I love that I love I think I think are a situation

very similar in a situation in a question of crisis and in question of difficulty I think

the people are so the people is very important so to Brazil for the people

I think I'll get Argentine, but if not was Argentina and win a Brazil, I'll be happy too. The other side, there the Zebra, the Maroccus, gaining from Spain. Probably it's a...

It's a cup of the world, yeah? Everyone's all right. The World is good. The World is like, car. I always say, I'm like, it's a level of UFC. You're always a guy

that nobody knows, but, man, here, everyone is hard, here is the world in the world. They prepare for years for this opportunity here can't subestiming

nobody, so I understand the level of difficulty the Cup of the World because I think we have that we live here in the M.P.C. The other side of England, France, Maroccus, and Portugal

now, but you think the champion of the Cup of the World will be who will be able to pass to Brazil and Argentina in this semifinal, yeah, it's a good, it's a good, it's a great, mania,

my cabaret, thank you very much for your time in this career, poor, good sort in this reta final and good source in the event of Saturday in Las Vegas

and we'll see if it's going to say to see the final that would be historical with Brazil Argentina

and I'll talk to be to be to Argentina and let's see who will get in the final.

So, so the public of Brazil, as I'm always I'm together here,

the Argentino Shentioua more one more in action Saturday December you can

you can listen that I will say the I'm going to go to go ahead. And now we're going to direct with a interview with Julina Velaschis,

that in the 6thfeer, try retomar the centuron of Belatto against the discarmosch, vinging the derot, a problemic that rolled in the Avae. In the other side of the line, we have Julina Velaschis

champion of Belator who, in the day 9 of December, go in busks, to retomarom that was taken from Lish Carmust and by the Irish,

Mike Beltran, after all that problem that was alloo in Hawaii, we'll say this with him, but first, it's good

to receive here on podcast more way, how is it is the last few days to

go to get to get to, to recover what is your yeah, so I'm so I'm very

anxious, I'm with much a want to want to I'm never me in a

form physical so good I'm so I'm so I'm I'm I'm gonna

I'm I'm anxious I'm I'm I'm really the victory not

was the Lid Karmuch not was a victory contundant of her, I think she she knows of this, it was a victory that was done

to her for an error of arbitrage, a parada antecipated. I think the Belatot had posted a video on or an anti-ontain

and in this video you, car, it's to see clearly that she she not was acutating the cuttovelada, that she

was batting with an anti-braso there and an angle so bad that had not,

not can me I was I was going 10 seconds and I just

was talking a little little time, I always look to and I'm looking

the time so I'm so I'm a favor but so that's a person human

is a way to get a bit of she was done to her and I'm so I'm

so I'm to pick the world what she did you took to

the answer the adversary, but you understand also a little about the malice

of the lot, this type of what you learned as you know as a lot after all

after all that you did you know I think I learned a lot because I'm a lot of my career

I don't have no, I'm doing derogues, I'm in did you do do. So, I've got many the rotas, and I've got to

learn to pass rapidly by my derotas for the people to fight for the bronze, if we're going to let the derot to us

abalar, you know, you can't get to get to go to the next a lot and get

the bronze. So, so, this question is, it's, it's, it's,

not me affected in nothing, even because I know that I got that I that

Lutta, but I learned a lot I learned not a question of malice

of the the lute yeah I was sure, I was sure I had passed over

this many times but I think I think I I learned a little about

Alice Carush Sabe about people like with her so

so this Lut I know what to expect of her

I know I say that will reclam a lot when she when she in a moment very dangerous

for her I'm in she's not she will she will she not in a last one

I think nobody I think I didn't I came to come to come to come

she in some moment when I was putting her she was saying she was putting the hand the

I'm the same so something that I didn't was so

but But you know the other side, know, I see what to expect, and I think I'll be with more

more of the more than never. I don't go ahead of the way that was from the first,

I don't I don't much of people, who live to the side of the

things, and as the same the she came the I think that's

not an attitude back attitude legal, for this not is

does. I think it can have a total rivalities with me what it's but I think we have to pass to the people who are the other side, that that's just only competition,

it's a rivalry there and when it's there's nothing of that I don't go to that I don't go I'm, I'm, I'm

I'm, I'm, I'm I'm a, I'm disappointed in this, you deceptioned or surprised, the postura of So, of this,

to leave a little to the person, to not complimenter and and all, and the post-lut also, of her at first to say,

that you know that you'd have a rematch immediate with you, that would be the other adversary, you surprised,

or deceptioner, have seen this side of her, that's the image that she pass to the public, po, it's a person

very very good especially in the United, a athlete who had been a stutress of the soccer,

the FC, so, so, well, veteran, entreted, entreatas, with the

career entire I don't if you would have this type of attitude

of her no no, not I'm not it's for where she

she did it she not she not she not

she she she was she she she she she not

she she that that was there were four was

in the finalz was my power was I'm

she also she I'll say what I always I always say in all the interviews. You've ever seen a kid to put the end up on the tomad and keep it, and repeat it,

not will be, she knows where is that you have been, but if I had been to be able to fight by the revenge, because I just had made a defense,

that was my second defense of the cinturon, but the way it was, I think she, she don't have to say nothing.

He is just a functionary. She has to choose an adversary with who she has to look at.

I don't choose, with who I want to let's go to be in when you're to be in

your own. You are a champion, so you have to be with who come to get to

the better. If you're the best, for you have to get to the middle,

so I think the victory of her not was, not was, it's not been not far

not not, so I think that's the better the belator the

the right to give a revenge, even because the John McCarthy was at my side in this question of we're in

in the commission atlietta try to reverture the situation. Not we're so I think that's a certain form,

pesed a very much to me look to other form and me do the right the revenge.

And how you think that you think that will do you go to turn, it's to the whole point out

to the point once to to liquidate to liquidate of the and end up this novel

one a whole and I want to this novel of a whole of this one

that's that I'm that's I'm I'm trying I'm want to this title

is my and that I'm the category there in the I don't

I don't want to I'm not of I'm not of this but I

go there my most my work to show the work and

to show to her that I really so the and if she she's a champion,

she's a she's a much better than I and I think it a lot immediately

there, I'm trying to this process that was the commission of you're asking to the result

and you you know, and you have been in satisfaction with the arbiter, Mike Deltron

and I saw my my trip that you did for the combat recently saying that

officialized there an petitioned the commission that Mike Belta not was the arbiter

not was the other people, I'm a lot of people, that people can't do you know, that much we don't know, that many people don't know, to put it in fact, that not say, there's some response

to the commission, he's saying that, the fact, that's the abet this, in what pet that is it? So, the decision final, I don't see,

but I think that really not not say, and we're we need us, for that he not arbitration more the

matters, I'm, I'm, I'm, but this, but at this, or at least I think I think I'm sure that they don't have, they don't want to generate

this polemic so, so great, so, but, like, decision final, I still, I don't, I don't know, I don't don't know. I don't see, the employees, the Joina, or Ed, you know, but I don't, but at first, for this fight, I have certain that no. And what you think that this victory

about it, not as, in a way infatical, how you're planning, that says about you, to do you, about you, in a category, in general, not just in the event, but in the division as a whole, because we've just said, you know, that it's saying that it would be a great

fight against you against Valentina Chiemicheng, for example, and, that's considered a better pes-moosh of the world, and that Valentina had recently a lot of Tala Santos, that she entered as a super-favorita,

and for many, she has had all the lances polemic of the cabessada, and that moved the form of the you think, for the Valentina was in a moment a little questioned after that

that's going to recuperating so you can't you can you're you're going

to be seen as a big of the world or you think the people

especially the fans especially the fans, but they even tend to favor the UFC

for not not not to find the events not not

not not all you know I think even the

even more in the back the in the Belat don't

do the country here here the so Brazil.

So, many people know, you know, you have to be much fan really, you're really

to be a really, and be always being able to you know, but you're going to

some people, people say, ah, you're gonna the UFC, car, no, no,

they think the sports call the UFC, so I have to all this, so,

so, so, so, so, so, see, he's, he even

is very very here, in the Brazil, compared to Bellator to other

events. But I really gain a lot of contundate. I think, to be

sincere, I want to be a better for me. I always want to be the

best for me. I want to be the most for me, for my team,

for who who can get to people, so, so, so, I don't

want me compare to Valentina Shev Chav Chienko, she has in another event, I'd like to would be a day to fight against the Valentina,

but I think really this question of organizations, the UFC, contra the Belator, champions, contra champion, I think this is

a thing a little probable to happen. Apesa, but the Patricio is always asking this, so,

I think this very poor probable, but I'd much that would be a much that would but I,

I want to try, I want to the sole the world. I think I want to be the best Julianna

Velasks for me myself. I think when we're the best for us it's always to be the other people also.

The Patricia, he not he will continue with a rising, you that will have this co-promotion in the final

of the year, it's a point of that that would be impossible, you know, to do that when the day

three, and there's a more, a invege of poor, I'd want to do of a part of this.

Who, who knows, in a future event, you go to Japan, to confronta, or of the RISING, or of the other event, if the other event, decided also do that make this

part of a belator? Well, I was really very animated, I became very happy. I said, I'm, if I had,

if I had been, had been that I would be in this event? I, I've got done things in my

case. I felt like a lot of to do you're in a ring with the

regres antigues I think really really great interesting unfortunately not to

do not to do day 9 and day 31 just so I'm personally

really but so I'm so no because I know my

fairs even to say after I'm after after after

after I was I'm I'm imagine that I'm I'm

I'm I'm a a weekinia so for my body and I've I've got to trainer. So I think it will be more

fairies meresied and doing all doing your fairs meresida who you think you will be the next of the field looking

the rank of the division you see some you see some you see some some kind of there's like there's that

you've been from from I imagine that from from I imagine that I'm between the Diana Bennett

I don't know if you think would be more or less for there, or you think that the other tenta could be going to

go ahead for far? After the last the Wattanabe against the Hollandeba the organization

put it on an Instagram so what will be the next challenge of Julianna of the Skarmuz

would be a revenge or against Wattanabe so I think I think that after this

luta be the whether the Wattanabe I I think I believe I'm glad. So, now

but the first first is reconquist the tutorial, I'm just a year, I'm a a patient each

every way, no, I don't know I'm trying to love. First, I'm thinking I'm on the Lisk

Karmuz, I'm going to pass for her, and then we think, I'll be, I'll be

with them, who will be the next, but also that came, it, vee. With Cue-

thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, good Sauta in the Renta

and bring the truce the return the return the back to the I'm a thank you I'm sure

I'm trying to bring together to bring this for me is the with the Brazil I think it

be very legal the year of the year to get to the world in everything in all

in all in all in all in all all we're we're we're

this time this podcast I'm thank to thank you thank you

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