MMA Fighting - Trocação Franca | Ressaca do UFC 299 (e UFC Rio) com Tarso Doria e Gustavo Chagas

Episode Date: March 13, 2024

O eletrizante UFC 299 não terminou bem para o Brasil (a não ser que seu nome seja Michel Pereira), e o Trocação Franca repercute tudo o que rolou em Miami na companhia de Tarso Doria e Gustavo Chagas. O podcast ainda disseca os rankings em busca de nomes para o UFC Rio, entrevista Jafel Filho e Leandro Higo sobre suas próximas lutas, e revela em primeira mão adversária de Gabi Garcia para seu returno ao MMA. O melhor do MMA brasileiro no Trocação Franca, toda semana, com o jornalista Guilherme Cruz e convidados. UFC 299 did not end well for Brazilians (except Michel Pereira), and Trocação Franca debates the aftermath alongside Tarso Doria and Gustavo Chagas. The podcast dissects the rankings while looking for names to help salvage UFC 301 in Rio de Janeiro, chats with Jafel Filho and Leandro Higo about their upcoming bouts, and breaks news of Gabi Garcia’s return to MMA. Listen to Trocação Franca with Guilherme Cruz every week to hear from the biggest names on the hottest topics in the Brazilian combat sports world. Follow Guilherme Cruz: @Guicruzzz Subscribe to MMA Fighting Check out our full video catalog Like MMA Fighting on Facebook Follow on Twitter Read More: http://www.mmafighting.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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The downloaded two, Ghosts in the Machine, available now only from Audible. The Box Media Podcast Network. Seniors, in command of the podcast, Trocaation Franca. And representing the MMA Fighting in Brazil, Guineering! Cruz. Hello, lo, my friend

to Lute well, welcome to get to the 10thum first one episode of the podcast

Trocaceau Franca, a new house, this immense about the sphere. I'm

Glearmes correspondent of the American M.M. Fireo in Brazil and this

time, maybe in reshaca of the UFC 299 I I'm in the

reality of the internet Brazilian, Tarso Doria and Gustavo Chas, and now

are not because the Tassu not, because Tassu is of our more time, Shagas, fan, and now,

also commentarist of MMEA, in Centurion FCC at the Casette TV. My friends, my name is your time you're going to how are you know, how are you

this be a quarter day that's the day that's the air on our our podcast. I'm going to start. We're going to

see, that we're in a sitonia that we're not my own my error here. Oh,

my name, direct me, right, right? I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Let's go.

You're the most famous. It's the most famous of us. I, first, it's, it's a be a bella quarter.

I'd say that the time is lusco-fusco. My meta of the day is is batida. So,

it's all to be a quarter gloriosa. So, that you know does it, Gnames-Cruis.

What's a little. Let's be so if If someone wants a little of energy,

can you be a monster energy, because this is a energy energy of quality. And Tarsso,

my friend, be welcome. Oh, very good. Thank you, Gustavon, good,

you see, again, digitally. Guillermo, por, a pleasure is enormous to be

this marvellous podcast. This quarter year, I'm, I'm

I'm too and much things will roll in the world of sports and also the

football but in a way of the way of the way of the time, he's not really to get in Gannu

there's a lot of good, car, come borgh I don't know, I don't know

so I'm sorry so thank you so much thank you just for sure back back again let me let's re-grap

here in the introduction of podcast but it's not very glorious to fact for the Brazilian too RUXX

299 We've had a night very difficult to start I think the maybe the most dolorida

was the guibas Turin in my opinion for Jack Della Madalena who was a young, chriving with

and the durin who turned more complicated more suffered a night was he was he was he was

coming into for a victory in a decision when in a moment to try more a

kiddally he came he was leaving a joelada a wonderful as we came from we came

from the Madalena and it how is it how it was the reaction of you know how

this this revest of Durrino there this was the I don't know I don't know

I don't see the most frustrating for me between the Brazilians this night because

she was turning a a a derrota because I'm maybe

was was waiting, it's because it was a mountain russia of emotions. I mean, I was waiting a result, the Luta, was coming to a result that I not, was necessarily waiting, and she was ruined in the third

round. So, because, the circumstances that was, and the moment that the Dury and the category Atta and

all, I'd say, I'd say that was the the worst of the derotas the

between the bracceli the night the that's that's consequence in the

future the future the future the because it's a category

chata a category that premia the money of the

most the champions the men, the Iron Woodley, the Usman

and all but that were passed by the SANG new, I think that this derota does a

drawback poor in the trail of Durin, that I don't see if he will have time.

Tomara that it can't concussion will be bizarre not impossible he's impossible he's not but

he'd come back because he was doing a lot really correct he was

he was surprising to everyone and was and was pego, in a part of

he never he was he was he was the one of the one of the only thing that he

not could post that was that was that was he had in the final that he he was

a risked for who is a person who's preoccupated in a yeah you do a

right you're getting the your entire yeah he

he did he did what he he did the he had to he did

he was he could have been of distance, in the case of Durin, but he made a choice, and it was, and it was conflictant,

and benefical to for the naris of Nike. But, but, it was, it was, it was frustrating,

but, so, he showed that he still, there's a game to be in the conversation of top five.

He's got in top five, if I'm in a game, but he has a game to dispute with

any, but it's a try-and- that I don't see if the your time will perduing.

More complex is is that I was to take the Ladella Madaliena subed six positions and took the fifth place of the

which is difficult because the sport is the car young, right? The Dourin will complete

38 years in June in June, in July, in July, in so it's there, there's many

people in this division even the fact, the top 10 there,

there's many people, there, but the This is Sengue-Nove is getting, the Jack Della Madalena, the Ramonov, the Young-Gerry. There are many people, much-bollah, or above-of-30.

So, the Duran suffered a derogh of this. After he had suffered a lesion against Belal, too, to be a time out. So it's a very complex, right? Of course, it can't to go back, because he has a name, he can do the game, the game, the luts

and two victories, then to put together, to put a top-fino, in a great but it's a bit more difficult in a tarsu yeah that's yeah with

and if you start to think how it's also the enredo the little when he was a lot of the people were

it was gonna not need I'm not we're saying he was he was the point he had the

point of battle against the belal not so he's not just derotado but with the armro

lesionated in a form grave and now again a lot of he was he was

a lot was a lot really correct of Durian and as we we we usually We always always

very much a pegged to a plan of the game and always trying to be trying to

try to find to what he does a little, you know, the because that the end up

that's he got to get to be to get back this guy, no, the power not getting,

my man, he's, he's not, that the Shadimendezs too, he was in that Rueue

to get back back, I've got to B'BCHO B'OW, obviously, it was really better in all the sense.

But the Durnin was being refen of the plan of his, I think a little of the durability that

a lot of a lot of a lot of Jack Della Madalana cobrough, and he probably not

had to put to get to get a man, he's a man, he's a

guy, he's a kind of a matter, in this moment of his career of his

I'm, I'm also he will have this time to be to be to return to a

conversation really of the centuron but at the time, it's a other can't get a lot of

really can't bring good good confronts, to bring good conversations for the for the FC

for the fan so it really is really very dolorido it's very very dolorid even to see the

the form how it was if you start to see the cartel of his before the USman

in the dispute of Cituron and he did to come to be a lot of

these two that are some of the run-insinsins and more this question of the stilingada of the jack

of la Madeleine not just you know the lot but he's the way, but it's the way,

you know, not the question of the not all not all it's all like the longivity of

the car kilometer the doorin in F.C. a lot time, he's not working with

the many of the country in many many times that's what Mereve and

this year and this war and they They're going to be a warrior, that.

The interruption demotum on me there, that's been sincere. Yeah, but I'm that's provo the interruption. It's a

problem, not, the fault of interruption. And, po, you see, the Michael

Page, who's now in the FC, he has been 37 years. He,

he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's about, he's years in

the year of the year of a year of difference, but it's a man,

not lot kickbox, not a total of MMA, he got a guy of the major part of the career, I've got many

people who in the Bellator, but in general it was a career less, the style of him, the style of not take a porrada

in a distance, he'd levable a little he'd be, he'd get more fresh in the FC, I've got

much than I did, he did, he did, he did you make the show of his, also,

the other the LUTA in the middle to not the inventing to put him to the rest

that is the most of this division put it against a guy that was disposed to drop a porrada, a guy who was made a bravo,

took him a passieu, he left, the Michael Pede took all the arsenal of golfs his, to put a

in practice in this a lot, and a good victory, I'm a good I'm going to this, this is going to

him against guys that are so to try with him to not, to not try to try to do you,

not, try to doxia do you dojit or nothing, let's the way that, not it's great. Yeah, the way, yeah,

I confess that I'm a little temeroso even as well, because he started, but he started more,

more versatility in the but the Kevin Holland left, he, in the first assault,

he, he, he was, he, he's, he's going, he's this,

the but he will, but he will, will, will, will,

the, nature of his just to get a but Kevin Holland

not faller in us in us give him to give Kade of a back

but but it was it was a ball in-p was a mass

was a specialist against a against a end I don't shing

the car but he's not not so a specialist and

that was what you said was a fact the affection the

MVP disfiled his arsenal he he was he he did he took the he had the

he took the ballco the entry was and the considering that the the Dena the matchmakers

he and everyone know very for what he is he is I think a victory the way

it was it was many many possibilities not not many possibilities because he He's just entered, he's in 13th, he's

in top 15, but there are some possibilities interesting for those casements manoeuvres, depending on the UFC, you go to England, and you can put him, put a new matter, he'd get,

if he was, if he was, if it was a victory bureaucratic, more bureaucratic, I don't know if he would be a, he'd have a career so long-eve, not, especially in this

category that is Shea of wrestling. Of wrestlers. So, the way it was, I think the

matchmakers are going to give a call a curtailed like the whole. Forks, he did it.

It's a it's, it's going to be the dindos of the MVP. For this, to be it. It has to

protect. It has to protect the man, don't there. It's in a function.

There's people who serve, I know, the Robb Loller, serve to let the octagon unsangentated. He serves to be a divertive.

It's just. And many people about him, to do you, no, the more of God, there's going,

there's been a lot of a lot to be a two being to be to attack to the other

to attack. I think there's a lot ruin. It's only, he's a

guy. He's not, he's, he's, he's, he's, who can, who can

no, there's a job to put to to put it to back back to finish but he's a guy who got to talk about

so he'd go to get to make the same but he's but he's not but the moment no

I think so the Vincent Luke I don't know if it's the question now because I think

Vincent Luke Luke I don't see catapult to for a centuron in this

moment and as as how Gustav said I think the career of Michael

Page in the FC was was very defined by this this istrea, for how it was this

straight? Because, along the lot of the officer, making a lot in a lot of important,

it was a guy coming to Belator. And, po, were one of the great myths of the M. M.A.

in the last time, he was a day not going to be a future, I was, I was really

this, this is what is going to show in video game, or the mod that they're putting the

Michael Page here in BOR, so, I think the most assurator

also of his is how he entered in the mind of Kevin Holland. It's like, you see

the bully of the college and you go to get him because they're not they get him

he's not he's about some besteries in the last round so, completely constrained

reclaming that the Michael Page was talking so so, this

this first first little the Michael Page I think really really

many many the many the be avert. Maybe a Young Gary in Europe,

because the Wienkopee has been 37 years. If he'd get, all right. If he can't,

he can't, well, and if he has a young, but, you know, I think it's a situation in-win there,

I don't see. I'm going to be a bit, but I think the question of the UFC can't

try to it, as the job as the proportions, uh, the Alex Potan. There's a

guy who has got who's a The UFC, more old, in the case Botan,

had a narrative with the whole, you know, you could get a time, you know,

you could have to put a car to get to get to get to get to that, go,

go, go, let me go, let's go, not, don't, don't, don't,

don't pay time, no, because, don't know, not a man, we,

we, and if you can't, we can't, that we can be a person, can't get a

something, yeah, yeah, but, Acima Hecima He's Even his

New Megrily is perigoso I'd put out of I'm looking The Ranking here Yeah

The Jof Niu Karr That's The guy That's Cipar And he He's

He's He's He's He's He's He's He doesn't He

He's He's He's He doesn't He'd He'd He'd He'd

Be'd a Reus He'd It's it's Acima of him It's

Ovisant Luke or he The Yan Garry I think I think he's in a phase more Yeah,

would be like Madelana with the Duninio Yeah It would be a situation Pallecide If you

If you're Definue Or Vincent Luke We'll Marnes Let's make some suggestions to him

and see What he He can The job That's Yeah No matter No

Ficicit There's There's There's There's There's And impugant

in entrances in the good sense impugant, we've been the Michel Pereira

and was the packote complete, not more in the guy's dancing and he

did a excellent lot, yeah, but it baritore about this event.

Atairetow was, gabarito was, he's very very, he's very

very he, and he he, and he, the way he the way

the representation of the moment because he gave that he took the that's

a little no, no, no, I never will follow the name

of his in my life. He saw he fired and he was like he was

like a man who was strelia du twas carpado no

he medial distance and he he's here, what I have

here he he's he just he just he just he's going to the cost to the

car, to be able to the way to get the maldard. Yeah, in the maldade.

So, he's turning the our MVP. He's the reo of entertainment and more

effective than the MVIP never was. The entrances are the are many different

are infinitely better because he has the the sauce the tempering

the tempering He, when he entered in the UFC, he had that he was a lot of wonderful, and in the

last scenes bizarre, of the stances, of the stucas he said he wanted to all the time in 15 minutes,

all the piruettes, all the dances and then he was in the dogus Sanchez, he was a derrata surreal,

Diego Sanchez, clearly, nitidating correau, and I remember to talk with a Fernanda Pratt, journalist

that was of M.M. M.M.I. in fact, the Michael Pire, you can't never

that's that's there to so don't have to expect of him he's not a military,

he's because he's because he's impugant, he's a cabalota and the guy was he's there

to be there to be it to be like that he's like he's he's he's quite

he's there's set victories he's the guy he's a other puttable

he's sub-category yeah two in two in the first of the first of in part of the same

time, one minute, each one. So the guy is a new man. Gagnos of many people in the middle,

now are two victories in the middle, the middle, do you know, Tarsson? Can't be

to be sure? Yeah, top 15, top 10? Look, the case of Shechel. You're the

fact, the fact, this person medium, it's to do you, it's a, down,

top 15, top 10, I, I don't go, no, But all depends this evolution this Cheshel

adult, this cheshel adult that's a loter that's he thinks before he has the the gulfs

he's obvious never will get this it's the it's the but it can dozor a little

more. And I think it's how it's how it's a good the change of course

can't revitalize a because in the 77 the chasel for more that had

been inconstant and now we're observant, and let me remember that he's in 84 today, not for the vote of necessarily, he never

had a question of the cord of the pesoffin, that was a lot that had a much expectation for him in the category of

not back the problem, the fight the the lot, the lot of course, 84 kilos, it's like another threat,

another person, other, other lot of other lotator not seems a little in comparison I'm going to

I'm going to be a little more than the Polish. So, so, so, I don't

see if we can imagine him Cheshel a day champion of the I'm going

to be a question of the he's not a little 30 years 30 years what is

that's I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm what I'm sure I

did you say Cheshel champion 2006 2006 20% 30

and 43 and 43 Luters no course it does sense It's the

It's a good I'm gonna I'm gonna me maintain No, I'm gonna No, Now, now,

but I'm Michelle, champion of the FC All right Can't go With this, if I said I said, but

But, but, yeah, much expectation to be the next Passes, I think

can't to start to do some little bit to him until because he's not new in

FCE I'm gonna talk to the top 10 of category of the CENT

main event of Fight Night in Apx. So, let's see what happens with a Chichel? Fight Night in an Apex, is it not? You see that he merceeer a public for him, in the first main event in the UFC? Bota him, no, yeah,

but, botter he's principal of FCRio. Cabe, Cabe, Cabe, cabe, is being, balladown, the FCRio, will make the maloquice of his maloquice of him here. It's even to try,

a guy, maybe not a rankiered, but if someone that's in a beerole, the rank in Bezo Medio. It's a barred too. The E.

is the I think of this. Fundamental, for the Brazil. The SV. Card of the FCR. I think we've to start

to talk about. We're going to we're going to do the F.C. of Brazil. And, for me, façot

for Michel Pereira that he's me're making too, por, repugant and in our gongue

here, we have, the defotas the Raffael of the Anj that, in my vision

as, like, incerra, the chances of his chances of his contender he was like

in great luts and he kind of paring a little to mirro and I think now he is a guy

that I'm going to tell you just a lot of super impugant great lottador but just but lots

impugant it's to the public is incredible this is a lot of JPEX that nobody

will buy ingress right to see, so it's a tranquil. But I think it's that

it's a real, I think Raphael, with the age, a moment of the back to the

low, and not rende, or you think that can do to do to do

a way a way to be to be a big thing, this division

very difficult, yeah? It's a good, yeah, it's, car, it's a,

a, a, a, a, a, filer of assassin who

has, I think, I think he, he's, it's, it's, it's,

a, a teckon atras in the reactions, you know, to what he

had, what the durin not most of, disaceleration, it was,

he, he, he was, he was having the things corrects, a little

a little after, a little, a little, before that he had, and this

a category that not perdo, car. Just have assassino. The guy the guy new,

the guy is showing service, the guys more very old are still are still are the

people who are like a like a with San Deni. The Darush to the same

of Garh really. Yeah, the proper Dariush. Enfing, man,

unfortunately I think for the pretension of some I think that's

it's that's it's It's difficult because, you know, he will make it, he will be, he's a 40 years this year, the year. The Marseh, you know, were more old, but Marathon Dubo a lot in a level very different

to Raphael. Raphael, he'll pick the guy that's a little bit of the age, so he could be able to help him, but he's able to help him, but Rafael, to fight against the guys that he will be go to, Rafael, against the three-ins. He doesn't do, he doesn't do what he's doing what he has made, he can get him,

I mean the guy who has a molot on the FC and I think the Rafael can do the way of Jim Miller to get the guys men's little for if you want to continue to look and all for more time

I think that's going to because if we're putting him against a guy rankyado I think it I think it's more difficult

really imagine he's defending there in this category that is so difficult and he's a proof of that this category is difficult

in the moment that he was of a guy not rankiated a guy who to open a card to campaign a world.

The career of Raphael is very bizarre if you if you're looking at the cartel of his is one of the

cartels of the history of the FC without but it's it's that the time that the time

it's a time that's not we can't also that he's he didn't he's got the academy

and the Raphael buscue training here and he's he's the pace

decee of the Pes. Rafael tented much to go to get a champion of

the FC, you know, and it's it's not happening, as many, the things not occur in

this form. Maybe it's this moment, it's the moment of he's a little more accessible to

the moment of the times, places where he can make, show more more of the

he wants to what he want to what he can do the career. He is an athlete who

can't look just to do just to make a presentation, without necessarily the

expectation of that this look at this look at a little bit of a pyliaz to get the case to

his case to do I'm I'm a I'm a I'm don't I'm so I'm know what the

role of the career of him not there no way no idea no doubt no one of the athletes

that's like he was in the time that he was the time that he was a time he was a little fan

so I didn't not work and he And I tors for Raphael when he knocked the Benrenner

when he's when he wins the Donald Cerrone in the first last year he's that he's being a lot after he's done

a ball in him the defense of the centuron so the so he's a moment to make his choice

in a career as he like the what he he wants what he can he can be he can't

he still a lot of a situation certain can't do you can't do dispute a stutron

I think I can't I think now the distance has been and it's the time to

what is the next step. I think there's a proper path. Not need to be able to start with

the guy who does the lot of the whole round of the and it's a lot of the F.C. But it's time to see

the first of the next the way, more a durer of the draw there, the maladino, that this

was, uh, But, back the first time we talked, the first topic, uh, the first round,

he, he, he, he, he took him a lot of a lot of he was,

he went to, he went, he got a wrestler of high-nive, which is the Cudersblades, and he

talked it was a child, but in the second round, I think, insisting to more

in a moment that not was, the first that the first thing he was he was able to

get a car he, he, he, he, he, he was

murro in the head like the most he's the life is quite doing it yeah, Bahia,

murro in the head in the head was sitting there back, say that's the what you're doing what you're

doing that's what you're doing it's it's gonna get to get and when it was it was a

time yeah it's a lot of people people yeah yeah you thought that he said

he thought he'd be back and then then before it would and then then before it would be

It was the beginning of of the end, Shagas, what you thought of this

of the in a general so? Yeah, car, it's the finalization,

like he was waiting the moment of the time, like I go push, but I

think he apo he, he said he gave a subjugated in the how limpo

that he was going to that was the the lot, I think he

provoked a point, because the people had a doubt, the people,

I do this, the people, what the people, the idea,

of that the country, he, he, he, he, he,

he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he,

he proved, a point to that he could, he, fact, he, said,

he, more levy. This helps and that he can basically

quid the majority of the people of the people, the majority of the people are

the losers and let's Lasp no. I think the top so let

put the top here I think the top I think he could coulder all the

world so so so this point this doubt

has been, he really is superior in this area. So, he,

he, he's most in the second round, a time oneidimensional.

The prop the other he said in, this not necessarily a problem,

he could have, but, but, so, he has to have a plan

B too, because the problem said, you just you just just,

you just see a So, you know, see what did, see what did, that's the good,

he's got to he's got he's got a first he's got to the plan on immediately

so, not necessarily with the more possibility to go, so car, I think,

I don't think it's the kind of kind of he can't be able to continue to be

a bit and des I don't think that's, I think he's the but there tests to do this

category for him. Especially that's that's a little bit John Jones and he's

a point. And then the way more than more the wrestler the category is to

be a question of the detail of a thing to other for he pass

to all the world. So I don't think that he's the case of the

category is very frustrating this derrota he will do

some a few steps after, especially because he came of a luta that was

chinkalered for 99.9 % of people of people, including, and it not picked

well, he had to gain, he had to prove this other point for this victory,

and he not got no of two. So I think he will do a,

a, a, a, a boa but I think he still he still

a future in the Pesat. For much I think that I think it's a

kind of a category a more of a defiant yeah, there's the Jamal Rio

contra Poatan, there the Prohaskah and the Rakhit have the Barovitz

there, but the Petrino who's getting the fire going to go to

and he really a category very mort so if if he desks

he he had he did he can do you do maybe with a

maybe with a maybe more more a guy more not have category more

more than than the than the person is no more now that's you're going to now that's you're going to

this is the only alternative no other other other to do you know the John John and so enfrents the

two will be able to continue to do no one no vote to Cancun Paul

I think I think it's a maladino mirro on Pavlovit it's mirro

in a and a and a guy he'll gov or Tuifaz is it So, so,

so, so, so, have to be in some , you know, maybe you're even more, mirro in a twasah,

that's the guy that he was was trying to ask, you're going to destroy the porrata, you'll go back to do that,

and do you, do you, and put it back, and you're going to be able to down, where you're to be able to

finalize, you need, so you need, to see, injection of , you, know, to entertaine the

people, that were, they were, they're, they're getting a a little, in a little

in a lot So I think that has to have to be in this division because he not is a guy

a guy to be a guy who's a guy a guy very much he took and he

was a lot the blase was a lot more difficult that he had a he did the first round

he did the second but I think the copo is a whole in this

this this this lot of his against the against the against

if he was if he was a trainer of the an employee. What you would you would you?

I mean, we need to get a lot of highlight, amygd, we'll have to have to be able to a highlight there.

That's that the perception the UFC, the media, the fans, principally, is very important for the

athlete. Like we're talking to Shechel, that everyone loves, that was super queemned in the

Lutta with Tompson. The person got, he was chate with the posture of him,

po, no, could have I've been, not had done a lot in this

lute, car, now we're we're doing a clouting a man, the stintu- to be

a little after the little after the Lute Lerries. A skier really, really very

very pesable for part of the F. The public Brazilian was did the other people,

other people saying that really, po, he's a lot chata, you know,

I don't see what the measure of what the point of this went to the point this entered in

He, he, he, to know, he's beened again, the game we got up to back back, that he was the same time, but he was being effective, right? not was able to cause a gun, but this is a maladino.

Maybe it's just for for the Brazilian and say is the guy that everyone, this is this is our future champion of the

peser of the peser of the peser of the person champion of this category. I'd even if you put

the maladino to look to look at the Cuts blade 10 times he's I think the maladino

could be the most part of these he's he perde but it but it

was clear a a derot not not I'm not I'm not

he's But Mosca. There's a papada of Mosca there's a papada of Mosca there. Confioed

in the sequence of the gulfs as you said, I think if if I was the emperesario

of Marladino I would would be a lot of this lot for him now I think he goes to

a serious risk of FCC to give a a pedradin and pass a situation

a little more complicated to him so it so it's important to see what will be this process

with a part of he lot, where he can't be seen be seen be seen as a lot of we need to

a result urgent, we need to be a highlight and if you could try to a little it would be

really not not, but if you can't be in a little bit one two cruises

pao, let's just on this yeah was awesome excellent coach coach

tarsso but but but but talking of highlight the man highlight

the only in Porier. More a way us brinded a great a great

a great a super a suffolk a shushin with Sandenia that's a new generation getting with

all the but no the mancaco vellio well back a carlough but a

great I'm a good of Porier the guy for the man for the man

good for a carcette in a sport that there many people that don't

people that not is a It's a guy different, and a great victory, not a lot of just a guy

great guy, he's a guy that's a guy that's a guy that's a and it's a carol and it's a different

and it's mannero a way the interview today today to Rewane that he he's abried

he said he said the problem that he had mental and and he and

the poorier car is that that he that's that he is that

he's a that that's that he's And he not Brutton, like,

Vanden Le and Cil. You know, it's like, you look, it's, it's like, it's more caskka

grossly. Yeah, they are more cask, it's like, it's made of material different.

You know, it's because the man, the piece of that the, he, it's a,

it makes it, it makes it much, it's, in situations like the other

contra, the, contra, the, or, or this, now, the localist, the way

that was the way it's what you said, it's always good to his stature because you

don't know what you know, because you can't say, po, I don't know what

to expect, I'll expect a , but so, it's a way, it's a

war, and it can't, it's any manners, you know, a ron, an explosion,

no, in the second round, or it could be a battle of five rounds, it can be, so,

man, it's a good that he was a champion, but if he not was a champion, he's a Serrull of the

same, he's a, he's a , the Serroney, the favorite of public, so, it's a guy

that I feel I'm a good, I know that will say things good, I think he's going to

And it's well, he's although he's a time he's all the time he's

always he's always he's always he's never he re re re a porterer

a porterer in a category he's a he's a category the

he's he's he's he's he's he can't go he's

he can't he can't if he was to serve to the other

I want he he can he can he can be the he can't is just made. And he's

so much so. So, it's a, car, it's a foda, it's very foe. But with all the respect

on the Spuria, this pap of him has been to Maratheb he's just too, right, yeah,

bye, the president, no, if he wants, in June, he's there, in June, it's with all

respect, no, but you're there's a question that will be this? No, I have

no, I'm sure, I'm sure, I'm sure, there, it's All right. But,

but, but, but, it's a poor, it's a thing, for the Charles,

not there's a general, no, no, not there's a time, not there's a time,

there's a time, I'm, I can't, I'm, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna,

I'm gonna, just, just no, just no be able, just no but a ,

Marhese, Luta, in the middle of Ramadan, no, no, but for the Charlin is no,

but the thing, corren, zero surprise, Zero surprise. And zero surprise also in the Luton Lerr,

for me, gave an expected, provoked that the first one was the result of the lesion of Mare and Corrugue,

and it and he made the he even did, now he he'll be invicted by Sugar

Shahn Athletic Commission. For me the future is brilliant for this menio to the menoes of

hair coloros, Tars. It's brilliant I don't think the future,

the present. So, what we can complain? It's a story of the RFA, or no LFA

if I'm even though to generate interactive, and see where this guy came to and I used

much the highlight of him, I used much the image of him when I had a great,

because I really was really a important. So I think that was in that was

the future. In that when I saw the when I saw this man will this guy

would be this guy He is a champion of the FC, defended very well, I don't accept the discourse of that's the

best, he's the social, calm, man. Very good. Very good. He creates a more to be a

serious to the quality of his when you see the person and how he he's got, and all right. But he

in the octogro, he really really good, is very good, is much capable in what he can't

do it. And it's very true to see how the title Verer, not

I don't be there and he was suffering one of the other but the

most of a defiant yeah, there was a lot of the heart

in the engulia the door man, fischina compared there, I don't

see, because what what happened the thing for the titovera really

was a amass of front and and I'm I'm

I'm I'm I'm quite I'm sorry the honor of the

Chano Malle So not We're also We're gonna We're gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna put in a manned to put in

he'd pick a topure Okay, Abol-a Couping, okay? Never was to be a stupon, okay? A guy that's gonna be a story,

but was a dispute of this statured with the UFC gave. Me remember, me remember, so, den renders or for a Michael Bispin,

like, like, now, now, now, I'm gonna be this this lot here, let's resolve this here. So,

I don't know, I don't like this situation. These guys are are treating the Cintouron as if was like the palco of the ratin. Let's try to

get your tretta and come to your own own my centeron. Oh, not for this, not the problem of John Cleveh.

But then it's not not, because you will see, even though Romario and M. You're going to say in a

ball over the Bhoping, you're going to be a pedd this is it. But, but I

I think the ball of the ball of BORAB, Let's see if he go to Marab, if he will force, if he

wants to if he wants to try to get the same, but the ball of Beezo Meraab,

I don't see if he will be able to get the put upure there, but I know, we

we're going with a calm too, but for me no need to be

this this he's a problem, it's a problem also also

without a without without it, because you're going to

get to get against who Max Wallo if Max Wallo if

Hollow and Topuria Lutaso Lutas Or so I'm so I'm a lot of Pica For hadarad of five rounds

But if you're Mace Rallie was there Nocautia the first round for Justin Gates The Toppura It's kind of

Tohuis Recapers To recover Pord of two knockouts in seguos The guy needs of a

To have to do what with him? The Rateke Gain-O but Shannomare, let's hear quiet

too, what was, I'm sorry. No, no, I said I, no, I said

that the, no, I said, but it's a moment even of a superlo of that

Dessna. No, car, there can to par with this mania. Let me let's be

consolidate let me, car, um, this category, I think the the most quantity

of the majority of defense were three, uh, do Dominic Cruz

and the DJ. car, he consolidated and try to create a person there's

because so it's there's ever an appeal commercial and to

some some some Star Power there he simply don't he doesn't

he not tradues to audience, he not communicates the you know you don't

he he don't he not he not then so he that he, that he,

it's a, he's the what the Demetries Johnson was, a unanimity technical. Like,

because he's, he's, there's a thing, because he gained the audio, be able to, he got

to a guy that, he, that's, that's, but it's going to be always

so, he never will get the next, he's, he'll be puttri- he,

he's, he's, he's, he, the puttrient, he, the, he,

He's been the lute. He's he, he has the Merab he has the Petriyan

he has the proper St. Hegan, poor, would be a lot wonderful

because it would be majoritariam in- -per. So, car, can't consolidate,

does like the Demetri Johnson did, does like the aldo

did, limp the category, I don't know how many and so for you

be some, for you have some some negado because I think he's very in this to focus on

to be the conquistair and the people simply don't so they're going to be the challenge that you're going to because

I think he made a minute one because this is mediatic and two because he saw the that the

topura is that he never had never never had this attention and gain the

second to be a country it's certain that are that are countries different,

dimensions but, but, I think he tried to mirro there to try to fisgare

a little the hype and it's too, but I'm sorry, so, but I'm totally,

and he said, he said, he said, I don't know there, he'd like because, I think the

way of his car, limp the category here, car. It's what you have to do you

do you have to so, so rare today, a category with a disaffiant,

so difficult of you encounter? Well, he has, no minimum three.

No minimum three there's interesting, mannors that's that's the fan will

be so important. So, so can quietio, the chuga? I think he is trying

try to pull a little hype of Dupuorri but with all respect

to Spain geographically is the time of New Guasu so, so the same

the same and nine Guasu and say a star in Newark in Spain is

the same Exactly exactly equal, the maximum that you will get is permut of pizza

so, then, depending, the pizzaaria is a good pizza and a good pizza pasta,

let me go out so fission propaganda here, you know, porre, coupon, a

procaceau for 10% of discount Poh, the convidated also come here, come in it

come in it is, with a question, you're gonna receive in the house, so to

to finish the Sundarov, or Malay Mirabe, palpite of you and still or anew? By the face of you. I started saying, go there. Go to start.

The face of the shot. I think that it and still, so that is that three to two you.

You know, that will be, not be emphatic. I think it's like that he's a point-a know, make the sequence

to say, then put in the second round put, it was done a ma-ma-s, he went to some more

contunded, but I think it will be be, it's a part-to- but it's that's

that's the point-a and say, point-a- point-a-a- at the time, he will, he will be

to the he's-the-chown in this this, man, it's a- two-z-a-o- Recent we've discussed

in the third round In the last Lut, the Beraab went back against Cerrude and but Serrude paraded in a long,

in the lute for example Meraab not can't put up to back back. The defense of the

alta too is an animal he trained with a tankin a much time because he was he was he was

training in and he and the Merab not necessarily to put you to put you to back

he can just to get to he can make some a action positive

for him point to hangar a little of a little of a little lot of the I think the Mereb

I don't understand how the people go out of Merab because he not he's not he's super

charismatic he's really he robbed he robbed the guy he's got to he doesn't know

because he don't take him a mhmia borg in a maladine and the Merab in the Mereb is in the boa

so I think that's a lot that's that's that she's a little bit of a time total to cut this distance. I don't think the Merab will accept, to be in a distance a little more long,

taking goals, like the Tito, came over suffering a lot. But I think the Meraab will be very asserted. In diversas luts in the FC, the Meraab took a pavoryn and then can't be recuperate. My question is, if he took a pavorin, consequently a lot of a five rounds,

is that in some moment the Mali no way, can't even remember? The Mali has a man potent, nocaughtio, the Alderman Sterling, he can't do do this with Meraib So I think it's a A lot of

A lot of Meraab If a luta If the lute is Stendor, the Meraab can leave a vantage But I'm Sincerally,

I've seen that I saw that Saturday, it was Saturday, it was Saturday past, I would say Amel

can't even knockoutia the Meraab but it's obviously not a lot I'm talking that I'm

talking about 80 to Chinese but imagine how the Lut would be imagineing how I think there's a chance

good for the champion to maintain the title there's a lot. Depends much of how Merab will be in defensively, particularly.

I agree. I think much of the hype of the Merab, the fact of the lot of the academy of his know,

like the Ray Longo there and the fans of the Americans are not if he not if he not if he not

would be able to he'd get him but he's a sacko but no he's got the no,

but no he, pica, bot the chapel He's a pick. He's a R-Zenia R-R-Zenna,

rapazia. Oh, look how he is. Oh, much brother, yeah. Oh, the other than

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De Volta now to talk about UFC Rio, or maybe the UFC Brazilian more sabotado of all the times. Tanta people board, could be part of this card, in a paper view in New New York a year and

a year and a year a year from the last year that was a car of a

mounted out of the end of the apgated as lusies now we don't

we have not even a lot of principal will be the pantoges yeah who we

want to against someone defending his centuron peserer because it's a

pperov has been to have the centuron and so so so so

the FEC decided the the stars most popular Brazilian to to look two or three seven months before the UFC 300

and other cards of March and April what the level of impugation Gustavus Saga for the sir to open your cartier and

gastre the $300, 400 dollars to visit a Rio Arena on day 4 of May I'd

I'd say that in a sabbado common would be 15% of impugation in a

sabbado that will idea of fish in the circulator and this quantity of the lot

that not was announced I don't have a minor possibility to me dislocate

to the bar to I'm talking only today, it's maybe that it's

maybe but I don't I can't I don't I'm I'm sure that I

just including the luta gringa I just I did which which

what's could be put to be part of this event and

like, I don't I don't I'm going to get the Ian Gary against the

Colby Colbyton the guy and say I say I said pooh, very many this lot,

put, so I go to do this I'm going to have a eating a eating a

eating a so much I was I'm so I'm not, no, I'm

not, I'm not I'm know, I'm on the radio social. When I don't assist the UFC, I, I never know, check,

the television, it's a little parenthoods about. Antigames, the channel Combat had a

game, yeah, and you could see, there, the day I was going to the

, and porh, they'd puthous a result. You know, he'd be the event to

and I was there was a person, I had to have been to be the cell, so,

so, so, it was possible, and I'm possible, I said, I said, well, somebody,

I said, well, somebody, somebody, please to try that for the word, yeah, because it's a

big of the question, but puttaparck this. But you know, let's see, you're saying, let's see,

you're saying, you're saying, you're going to do you know, there show of Madonna of grace in Copacabana.

I don't know that you will be there coming a Madonna of Grace in Copacabana, now.

It's the show of the is the part in the pop that's rolling there, it's

me to talk about that could be to be caught on the same day it would be yeah it's a I know

I know I know I'm sure the demograph not equal but so it's a event

but it's a could be in the delphin here in the Tjuka this event that it's a

event that it could be in the arena in Don Santos where was the Centurion it's

it's it's complicated because it's not an event barraught it's just being being sold

being it's kind of depending on the impetus of the car my God my God will be blah

blah blah blah there there don't have money fuck if you're I can't

say if you're if they're if they're if they're if they're not going to get $400

dollars don't You can't let's just say, and it's just going to think. And the climate is, poe, it's be horrible, right, it's

be horrible. They have to subvert it. They just start and do, it's not parten to, like, what will be?

Let's see what that's the way. Let's see, like this, oh, it's like this, oh,

I don't know if I'm, it's a horrible, now, it's, you know, we're saying,

you're saying we're talking to the case. I don't know in English. The business is it's

those nobody has, you're saying. Perfect. So, so you're parted a horroros

and they will have to do that way to get a lot money and money man, I'm going to see, I'm

going to be right, but I can't see it's good, but you can't be a car of South Paulo in November, right? But he goes, he, he went, and he

he'll wait a week, he thinks. Because the Caribbeana has had been a , poor. I don't go gastra, no, I'll just, I'll just go back. It's not to use any Madonna of pretext, right? Poh, come in the way, it's not

the show of Madonna. Because it's at the same hour, even the UFC, could be in fact of the new name of Genese Arena, there's that kind of the city. It's not more Rio Arena? It's what it is now? Farmace Arena.

No, it's sacanage with me. No, it's, but for a lot. What, what is? It's a little biteroa here. There's a pharmacy in now.

It's a arena, in the pharmacy, so. Ah, so, so, it's all right. So, it's a lot,

there's an arena carioca, right, those aren't many many and the two, one,

one coles, one, one, and a lot, and a lot of a lot, the guy is just,

across the port, and go, perfect. Perfect. Perfect. Can enter with the cams the

the business of the Madonna Pagamea. Is it you should have you should be able to pay-perville to fight night? Without, sepillia,

because, poe, I did a exercise here. It was the honest, I think it was

more like, you can get a price more barat, you don't have to

pay-per-view, and will be able to pay-p over. You're not not. You're not.

You're not. No, come to be in in April, not? Or the May of March? I don't know. I don't know if April

yet not. But, there are some that's already but it's because really who inferru the F.C.

Rio, was the 300, right? Yes. The 300 there, there was a moment of the

history of the world that the F.C. Rio would be A. Pantan and Pantogia, there's

this timeline. It was the desire of the FEC, but... It was the plan. Some

something was to have to have because not in the United and we don't know what what happened and then we

have to be to rearrange the pathas and then we got to talk about story. Brother, I

think the pointoja should have a defense a defender the tautos has a story really funny

a story very funny of how he he, he demurroro to get to get to get

to get to an FECC was a man, he was a man with a lot of business,

he was not able to get not the United he was he was a

paper view with the possibilities that we have now, because not it's not a other,

the people not are not not going to the people, the lotators not are not going to be able to

not be able. The Maladim, we don't know if it's going to be not going to be able, I'm going to

start in the card principal, uh, that's always the people, the maladino

was doing a reman event in San Paul. Durin, too, during the D'RUXRU also,

so not want to Cheshel, Cheshel, we have to have to lot,

lesionado. So, we're getting without no means to preen to make sure.

And, and the proposal of the F.C. Rio, of the pay-per-vil, to be in a

area, that's a marina, not necessarily a arena of a access, if a person,

go to car, has a car, there's a transport public, have a

time to get a train, and metro, go, go, my man, my man, my mom,

he's a barba and so, and so, and don't go, don't go ,

He no, he no He doesn't, he no He'll get a lot, get a baby there's a baby right, get a business to get

there to be there, because you're going to be there, but you go to be there, you eat there,

so it's a park of diversions of the luta, it's a event, it's a situation there.

So, you're going to that's a little resignated, just are a little bollado,

you know, the last vinds of the U.S. to Rue, that's you were much the first

vows of the first POS, fight pass, that was the ultimate. And it was a last,

it was a guard fort, and at the end there's a lot of lot of the out of the

end up, it was a good card, show. But also it was a bit more devasied than

the fan was a more reticent and so if the UFC if you flipar car

I, I'd say the UFC will be able a sequence good of papervis

and events with good with both RECC 299 many people reclaimed that the people

demoral but in the time the but the whole, but the other the number of public in the arena

is what they're going to they're going to the Apex it's important including the public's being present to motivate the

to make the so much so I don't see, I'm a little reticent I like the I like the

your proposition to transform this in fight night even that's even that's with a defense

the centuron the Pantorja because I think it also demove the eventual a point Pantorja

will look here not to be Apex with Amiral Basie, show, is a obligated and go-bored. Because it will be an event that's a bit more than a BPA-Vu, which is 100-luc. So, I don't know, it's a situation very complicated.

The FCRille, poach, it could be at the hour that had been a plan, right? I think it was being, being prejudiced

by the necessity to save the 300, yeah. If the 300 was 21, if the 150, if it was 301, the FCRILL 302,

the UFC Rio would be because they don't feel the obligation to super lot to $300 and getting all the people over the potama and getting Charles

guys with the same I think the guy the tap in the car was to have imposed

moican no without no necessity without necessity and so and so

this is it was so you're not and you can now you've seen

you've been you you've got So if you get, there's a lot, no

I don't need to the Raffa Duzh was in preliminary to do 1999

a lot of this final of a Miami, yeah, man,

yeah, man, he's people, he's Philip Lins, that's it's

not, I need it, it's a bizarre it's strange, it, and it

kind of, I think there's solution good, solution good, so it

should get the the curates the cartel there,

to the the other gringas, also. Can't enter, Jose Aldo, the dispeded the Aldo?

Amanda Nunes. I was saying about a thing. I did the exercise here, I went to all the rankings

of all the rankings of the FC. Conte how many of the Brazilians have to do,

to see the scenario that's being the designating of the F.C. 35 are rankediators

in top 15 of the 35 options. The UFC Rio, in a moment, there are four, escalars to to fight.

Four? No, I see, are four. There's the, the pantogia, that's, the guy,

the bollahle, the Petrino, and, it's a four, are three, that are three, that are to be able to

the UFC Threehuis has six, that's the Poatown, the Charles the Bronx, the Davidson

Figuero, the Moeican, who entered now, in necessity of no, and a backstack in front

the Marina Rodriguez. Six, will be Crescent if you get two these you just

pass to the F.C. Rio, it's do you, do you, but they're this. Okay.

And the the worst of all, too, is that today, the last the last

the year, the year, in the event for a week every a week

every single so in these cards. There's Amanda Ribas will affect

on Mayunas. There Vincent Luke There's Norma Dumont, Ariana Elipski Virna

Matthew Nicolau Joseenne Nunn So, being rankiated I don't say that you're a poor

You can't You can't have been Oh, boy, there's there's a lot to do you

can't to do it's just there's 10 that you have already you just no

No But Matthew Nicolai Matti Michael and Mattel Maril Cap,

but it's the Vesha or it has been to be a real. With a necessity, bode your loop in the Rio, porre. You can get a dispute

the cituron. It's the millenar the knowledge of the cobertor it was a court. We don't expect that was that were to

this perring in the 300. It's 100% this, it's 100 because we're a refein also the quality of

the athletes. It's like, to talk of Charles of Broncos and to talk about two athletes,

two of the most popular the UFC, not it of the UFC, international. So, it's very very sad to see

a guy in this situation. And it's it's, it's almost that is to look to, ah,

we'll move the data of this lute, let's push, we'll push, we're, we're going to get,

man, say, man, say, you see, there, there's, there's 16 top 15

that are, that don't with a lot of who got to who got Maladino, there's Johnny Walker

who's been for the O'Brien recently, the Borrachina, the Tatar who disputed Tijuana in the beginning, these people

have had been the conditions to have been in this year, are four who don't do you know, it's been to two victories.

If Paul Borrachina salvo the FCRio, look, just the journey the hero. Well, yeah,

I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm the option, perhaps he is the only option, the common event

of Borrachinia with or who's going to be in the name there was the name there was the one it's the most

so it's relevant, so yeah there's there's a doorie no talk about it was a boy

was still really recent for he going to no FECL no don't do Raffael

of the angels maybe it's maybe don't go no matter not cut a lot

not a yeah it's all it's just it's it's it's but the

yeah the options are much limited are are very limited. I interviewed the Pontoja there's a few weeks ago in a podcast. He recal

he got over a lot, and he got into a certain reason to say, poor, if the card has a Pantorce in a Lenton in a Luton in a Luton. It's, not a problem to have the Pantorja on the other principal. The Pantorja is a foda. The guy just does a lute mania. So, the problem is

you just to have a BOTOJ. A B.B. Ville, you can you look at the Lenton at the Luton, but the rest don't have nothing. And then what is complicated to do you do marketing, to sell the ingress for this event,

you have the Pantogia, the Kyle Boharly with Paul Craig, that nobody can't do what the Polk Craig did,

and it's it. Yeah, it's it that's it, like, it's difficult he also

he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, but, he has to

understand that, I know, I know, I know, I'm, but, but,

not a parato. And for all those questions that we've already talked, too, logistically, it's a lot of difficult to go. There was a main event here in Maracanazin, that was in a region central. I thought I forgot.

There were Maya and Rihala Flare. There was two. The first was good. The other, no. No, no. No, no. No, was the Zald and the Shadmendez. It's right.

The 242? No. No, no, a revoke. It was a revite, it's a revoir. It's, I even, it's all right

because it's all very difficult. So I understand the pantosh to be vending and and everything, technically, technically,

it will be a good. It will be, it's a event good. But, car, it needs to try to

because not so of Ravant to Poh, it will, it, will do a lot of arena, and lot

the arena will do what he'll do you will do that the F.C. Prioryise here. So,

what is strange not have never been prioritized this way because it's a place that's a

media bota both the publics, there was a other there's a I don't remember

how it was but the good public. And they have been a quantity of events what helps

to have a audience good in the arena. So, man, it needs to

for the guy to be a person to get to a guy to the guy no prefer to

a fish guy, if it was the guy, if it was pantos to get married

and the Rueh Ruhatangha the rill This is a man That's a would be a

assassination would be and the and the Pantogia car sincerely honestly

honestly I would say like I'm saying car can't compensa because

are two are two disputes cinturons because was a guy, a fighter more popular

today, and he'd down the chart, maybe, then I'd compensated, but,

but it's it's, it's, you need to a card that's a substand. I think

that's I'm I'm gonna go, I think I'm just, that you

just said, you just said, I'm gonna probably, probably you consider not go to

go to show of Dead Fitch in F. No, just these two

Lutas. Just these two Lutas And the rest Yeah, without, I'm not without a

bad Like, like, my God, my B'em B'n-

Fyn and I know what what are what's Poh, you know, and the

Amanda Vought- Saut- Sands without, so this two, you just

all, all, but, but, but, just a Pant-Oge, in

all the respect, Pant-O-G people good, the world a Capo, it's a place marvelous.

The pista is salted, in terms of the ground, also. And to finish talking to Centurion FC, you know, you, in the last

week, brilliards as as a TV, how it was, the Chagas how it was your first first

time, commenting on the event of M.A. It was. It was, it's, it's,

it's complicatedin, yeah. Because, like, because when I went to the Carioca

just by the year, I just had a year and a year so you

get the my start the Batafoo TV I, I many

times people people I would I'd I'd be

a minute to answer I was I was I'm watching the

show I was I'm I don't I know

so so this was I did I didn't

I to engatar, I was I was an event wonderful, with finalization, sang, knockout, and all right, I was, I was kind of, so, I felt this, at times I was thinking,

to be disligar, to be able to analyze, I, not was in a paper of an analyst, but, in fact, to do, but, to do you, but, mannero, you, view? So, so, so, I, so, I needed to a,

mini-tempo, so, but it was a, my first experience, I thought, oh, I'll be at 6 there, apparently, talking of me.

But as an idea, for, for, to be in a place that I'm doing a

want to be a idea, I, I've been completely the experience. But, it's,

it's complicated. It's complicated to do, the, the, the, the,

commentary, you dissociate the spectator the commentarist. But it was a good, man, it was,

it was, it was I'm waiting anxiously the second time. The second way is on the day

25 of April Minio Tars the next event is the day 25 of April? It's a next to

no, I think the next event is the day 25 yeah it's basically a one for month,

yeah I've a year, it's been March, the next time, and car,

expectation altissue for April and this final I'm at impressioned with the

with the humility of Gustav car poe it was it had had been

years of the covertura of the lot of the redderable of the

commentator no, but it was very very great, the Cunturion again, it's very very great

to see this event, he not necessarily national but there's a piece in the right Brazilian

also and bring good confronts, good, and be a event that comes to a TV

that's a platform a channel that, poe, many people of the community

was in that anxiety that's when is the MMA at KZTV I myself

as a man that had a relation close to KZE I've been with a lot of work with a live mode,

that's a TV and everything I'm a curiosity like a maybe a new year we'll get a new year we'll see a Kovna

we've got a we've been a event important passing by there and it was very nice to see a event

good to be a event good not just like it's like it's like the last transmission was incredible

the response the public was super-legal, and, like, like, uh, April will be, it's a

expectation of the thing, the expectation of the TV transmitting the Olympics, yeah, you're transmitting events of a little bit more

can pass a MMA with a idea, and even, because on the day 25 of April, we'll

we're also, the year, the VAC, the return of the MMA, and a little breaking

news here, she, she, she will have been Barbara Neopomusen, the adversary the ultimate

a lot of her in MMA there's a rewashed of the Lutte of the year of

the fight of 2018 this this is confirmed with the person with the

event is a lot is curious to be because they don't

have they have interviewed I'm having had in

2018 not a real a yeah she simply

passed the car on her and never more back

MMA there did the JJ G Gerts Gerts

won championing Pan American, Pesa absolute. Then, he was some lot of Jiu-Giissu actually but in a rhythm more Lenta,

Gabi, has been a 38 years, yeah, in the final of that he's made a lot of Jiu-Gi-Sys and the Bhabara then back

after some some other of kick-box. Let me see how it will be this two, that's the

famous, I don't make a minimum idea of what will happen, because, a much time, not we've

not seen the two in a-a- Bavva- so did a lot of M.A. but

volted to kickboxing, so I'm anxious, I mean I'm sure that's anxious-toe, I'm curious to see the star co-djuvante of the Tuf Brazil, but now in the Centura, UFC.

Yeah, that's crazy, man, what locura, Gabby Garcia to get to a MMA national like,

to do not in Brazil, let's in San Paulo. It's a lot of that's a lot of it, obviously, you know, but, but,

poche, Vida, it's very different to see, I think it's a case that does it's a lot as two

have a story as you mentioned you know, I think it's that's a kind of kind of that's quite that's just

a fan and of who are not a fan for being two women who look in a category of I don't know

what will be the exactly that they're going to be able to imagine I imagine

that's I'm but yeah but but there but it but it's exactly

quite it's exactly how I don't know how the balance that will be

but the my point not even exactly with number. It's like, not it's common you see women who look at this

category, so it's just talking about Gabi Garcée that's super gabaritada in the Jiu-Gitza and we're talking about for Mucson that's super-gabaritada

also in a trocan so it's a confront of stilers, it's a lot that's a lot that's really to see

that's really to see this confront. It's a lot that the fan can get a, we've seen

a lot of a lot of Durinio or see a look, put, the manda-ra-raba, we'll have to

have to be because of the rank and so this lot I'm going to just get to see, my man,

so I'm just I'm just I'm want to be me divest here. I think they're going to be to put it to

back to finish to finish rapid, let's see how much we're going to get this revent,

and we're talking of a lot of card even, if they're still if they're

probably this like this lot as the I'm imagine I imagine that

other can also can't the centurur I was more more than the scenario.

Approve it, everybody. Everybody's nobody was going to come to be and then I want to

see this look at this little after the president of he's going to go to the government,

Gabby Garcia, losing M.A. I'm sure that he had this in your bingo in the beginning

no end of the end of the end unfortunately I didn't unfortunately to discover again

that will be against the Nepunus and not contra a idea

an idea Asiatic, as was the common of the Gabby Garcia, that's that's a good that's been a lot of the last

last one of the last time, but with the age, paringias. The Barbara is a very more new than her. The Barbara is very,

but she's but she's so, it's not, not so, not so, not more more than it

is more five, six years, but six years, but five, six, it'd be so it'd be

that it was it was so, No, no, no, no. I think it's going to go ahead, but I'll see the time

and then it's a little, some way, it's not going to be a lot. But, so it's a gabby,

in the poster, in the chamad, it's a thing, a matter, and it's that's what

he says, and it was certain because she, she had, she had, she had, she'd,

she'd, even, we'd, so in the rising and and everything, she's a different she's a differenteated, it's a specimen

differentiated. This attracts. This, the guy, the guy, the guy that's, the guy who

not necessarily a fan casual, but the guy who has a sympathy for the guy who

started to see because pop, boy, mama. Then he'll see,

what, what's this here in this is a man, man, what is, boy,

that's, just to have the appeal visual I think was a sacada inacreditable

of Centurio I think I think it's they're a way certain the product

audiovisual of their is a wonderful the image the image the sound

the rhythm is all very good the centurio and even this sacada

of a name reconnoes I'm I'm I'm I'm talking

with a tass in office before we had to start the program. Imagine a video of Casimir, Reagint as well as the other

like Gabi Garcia in the Risen. I think this is a video that would viralize, it would be a video marvellous.

I'd do the M.MA. It's a mausoidosa ta. And you see, it's me. It's me.

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come reser with me t'ccule so t'c't always in a second the chat has been to have been to get the

and the UFC 299 and the poor, Bamban and Popo also got out of the situation.

But it was very good. I'm still I'm going to forgets that I'd have a promise that I'd be

this podcast when the Charin'n was to start out of the stout. I'm I'm juste

I'm sure I'm just I'm sorry when it will roll the way the way I'm

but I'm but to but I'm I'm sorry I'm I'm always my friend

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commentarista of M.A. Now, the guy, knows all of music, Bota Fog, and commentaries

M.A. M. M.S. Cary, is, I need to gall-gando, but I

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good to say to say, to say, because it's what I'm Tassus said, it's a life a

solitary, if you find your Bond, you will be commenting with with your woman,

I'm going to hear a barcheve on the other and she didn't know and the poor that I

have had the wife and she's the obviously she not she but she she wants

she's a fan of Herbidink including she like a like a like

I've never I've never I've never made so I then I have a

problem for this night so perfect and And,

and, car, it's always very good to say to be in my time. So,

I continue and I'm saying, after the after my extra way, and I'm like you

me invite more too, that I'm always, I'd say, I'd say, I'm going to be here,

because I'm invited, and recusored. Yeah, I said, I'm, I'm sorry, I'm sorry,

I'm doing, and it's always a pleasure, car, we're just, until next. Thank you.

We're not I don't know. Yeah. Calm. Let's move the issue. Now we're going to to session

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Explore the new Peloton Cross-Training Treadplus at OnePeloton.C. Do you know, we're on Jafelphil, that this Saturday, that's after Odie, Oshman, my friend, my friend, welcome to the podcast here. How is the emotion, it's the expectative of entering on Octoglo for the third time, I'm going to placar, more a victory.

Fala, Guy, more one we're here, now. The expectations are the best things are the best

once to make a place, to play this second victory consecutive. Who can

know, more one or two, we're, who's maybe after this but we're

just, we're just asking someone out of top 15 there, for

who can know, we're getting, because capacity we're having a time,

I'm sure, I'm sure, made a bad made a bad made a there,

but How is you're You're like, because, you know, picking that that really was trying to that's toparial,

that's a lot of, yeah, the guy, she's going to get a hype in and so, quite finalized him, how it's

how it's the difference of you're not, the difference than you, different than you, for more that if you were,

if you were a good idea, to wince the first in the FC, to engat- in the organization. How is, you're,

now going to this lute? Yeah, now, we're seeing, in the fact, in the fact,

it's not, that's the little bit with my with the other people not were so much the

great challenges, never I'm always me amher in this there, because, I'm going to hype,

generate a hype for the people, and then, I'm went, and I went to

back to England to know, we've beenceal, and now I And now I'm

desobreed, I'm dedubley, I'm trying two, three times more to put to placar this other

victory there because we know the concurrence is very great, nobody is very well prepared,

at 50, 50, and the want to the want to just only, it's always

a camiard for, who can't get a one in the same, and the the head's

of the new and we are doing a great lot there also, you see in a position that

you can be the Diego Lops of the Peso Moseka because the guy had a trajectory

like he came to Mof Sa Revoluev which is a guy a lot of a lot of a organization

did beautiful, he came but he had a great performance that many

we didn't hope and then after this finalized in the first round no calute

in your you just did this in the last last a lot, yeah,

you know, I think it can have a trajectory like that's, he could have getting a hype

after the performance that he had, getting the bonus and you think you do you do do you do

do you know I'm going to do this I'm not I'm not I'm sure we're sure,

but I'm just to look to my cartel the majority of my victories

are rapidas I never can let's make on the arms

the arp and I enter on or to knockout or

to finalize or to have knockoutia, and finalized also, but this not is the

question now. Now we're going to knockoutial to finalize and get this rhythm there also that's doing that we're

doing a great story in a prison, the other your adversary, Oddie Osmond, he, there's a lot,

there's a lot of the C yeah, he got to finalized, but he was a man, he's a good,

different, he's a guy, the category, the Brian Keller, Rumanelope, he, is in a bush of

a solidity in the division implacando victory of the victory of the victory of the last, how you

think you think the game of you two he's a he's a man he's a man who

got a there's a good he's a good who got some those guys that I

also I've been he's a lot really rapid and much explosive but I have

a game a game of a domain more more than the goal of his I believe in this

there I think both as a way to the same like a my grappling

also my wrestling also does that differentiated in the game of this

year after hebting this impetus of the beginning of the we can have the

rest of the control of the the lot of he's was

finalized you you have won't you the finalization so

the your your the the can't So the top-on, like you

know-sts the way that you're the lot of the lot of the like the guy who's in the guy who's in the first thing

for you know the way to get to get the you see more breast in the game of the show the you think the

your hand and you know it he's saying he said he said he said yeah feld

whatever that you can't put in you can't get up because you have one of the

most of the most of the country but it's a game we're going to we'll try a job more

just, a job more solid with him that is the game of the game we're

getting doing to do that we have a advantage much more for that for the

way, percorre a way difficult, you know, I said, a guy that's

impugating in a good performance, sonia with a victory that you

give a $50,000 extra to do to make you know that the the costation of the dollar, $50,000,

guarantee, poor, much time, there's subsistence, no. With a certainty, with the other money, I'm in at last of this bonus, I'm in at last

this bonus, I'm not going to, I'm just a victory, I want a victory, but I want a money, but I'm a good, that's a good,

and you said, you said, who said, re-encontra him in the future there, there in the top of the division.

He won't more one, recently, He won't It was a lot It was a lot It was a lot A lot of

So he was Everyone was Everybody was He'd be able He could be He'd be deputate the centuron He gained in a

decision But even he even He said Pantoja Yeah The proper Pantosia

He said to me that If he wins this well He could be a adversary here He'll

He'll be Hearder instead of Heardt instead of the chance of the cunturon The top of

the top of the time He's probably He just probably limped the topes the division,

you know, the top of the seven first he's got in nine victories about these guys there's not won't winceau

that he not even, so how is the situation of the division saying that probably the point of

the pointe and put the country in the year of New New January here on

year. I think it can be a a one a one

a good by the question of the Ripe that the maybe it is a

option to be Coloque he also but who who I see with with more

capacity is the Matthews Nicolau right the Matos Nicolau unfortunately vent to

but in this last one lot with Capia the cap he was

doing giving ball out not not didn't not

he didn't but he would for me would be the great

name now to be this title so even

even because he even not with with pantog

because until then they don't they've been a good lot. You see in him as the guy with the guy with the

potential to get the pantos oh, with certainty potential technical so I've trained

I've trained with Matthews and I've trained much time with Pantogia also so it's a contoja

encardida it's a m'leck is incardida it's chato and the Matthews also very

very technical so so it would a lot such that that's a very interesting to see it.

It's not not really a Rueh that's been going to be able to have been to start a coming up to

him in the future would be interesting yeah. It would be interesting who's not this next little bit he's going to

he's not the next the next the next I believe that the the winner of Capp

and Matthews will someone can be a great potential to be able to try to the future

in the victory, you book a victory. Now, and then the Matthews pegs also,

and the team comes to dominate the division, right? With the this is the our our

intention, we have a Macapasian also, Rafael Macapar and then we've been to victory,

Matthews also, we're having the dominion Brazilian, right, the other other side of

now we're we're going a lot of the water, finally the lot that he was trying for

a lot of time, was in the time, he was a guy who had a lot of quite in time it was a lot of there were various troca-troca,

there was a lot finally, this lute, how was it was the reaction when you called and saying that the guy

finally had had accepted to say in the hand with it, it's just a time that this

battle came to happen to happen to if I'm again, you know, and it's only three years,

and I signed a contract, and this lot happened not not happening because of the

lesone of his and before we had been to some some

I think that my first one my first the year is with him he's

leson-up and he was he's he's last on my and in the

really I think I'm I'm thinking this this lot

was to happen to get this was the

general he's the opponent of the opponent of were, were,

and the lot came to my collar. I was trying for this. You were training on Julie in this date,

imagining that could be able to happen to do a preparation for a preparation for having a more of the

time? So, in the fact, I was training all in my 60% 70%

because because, as a guy, he's, I'm going to be a expert in

this data, if he's would be with Jeremy camp, I'd pay this Lutte. I'm getting, I'm like, I'm like,

I'm pretty, I'm pretty some friends to play, I accompanied the camp of their, and I came

that was a camp, it was even better, because I don't have any of a month, and I just

accelerated now in the final, to put, to get the time of the lot, some things

of the finales, and I'm here, I'm ready, I'm ready, I'm ready, I'm ready,

Patricio, saying, oh, Patricio, you want to come to get with a German Kendi here, because Patrice would be

to look at America Saudi, but it was not when they were to be able to you know, when you

get to be able to get to see a old now. Or, or you have all the whole together,

all the whole whole complete, no, I don't know how was the reaction of them

there was a train of this parry, it was at the day of this parry, it was on a

day of this day, it was And it was, my company called to me, and said, I said, It's, oh, it's, oh, wow, look, look,

in the same, da-ora. He said, I'm saying, I'm sorry, I'm, I'm saying, he said, oh, be able to,

you, no, didn't even if I wanted, said, so, day 23 of March, you and Gallag,

in the island, I said, oh, I'm, just, I'm, to, come and,

to, and, to eat, you, to the, way. You were thinking when

rolled this call the when he was a legation I was in 73 kilos and it was a lot of

going to be in 6-6 yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's a

not, this the lot was, like he, I've always always always,

he said, he said, he would make me, he said, maybe, that he said, oh,

I'm, I'm, so, if it's for to do this lot, we solve

this lot, we go to and does this lot of in 6-6 because of

he also not a guy so great for the category of 6-6 and also not

a guy so great for 61 and when she was in it was

she was and now I'm I'm I'm trying was

working very working work and it seems it so

for this and for you and for you also you're a man because you're

a guy so far this problem more in in less a month of yeah

of preparation. That's it's been obvious. I'll have been to this

perk of this perk of the time, this time this time this year and this

time I'm going to make some time to get a little to get a little during the

time and get been a time, my focus but I'm not in the summer of

the life to a lot with this car, a bo lot. It's what you said,

he's he's said of the luthers various years, you just sign the contract to

he's a lot of the long to not so with you, but with many other other athletes

too, if you could be to be to zero to 10 to what the real of

the gaul to you get to get to the end up the end the

time, I don't, I, I, both I, both, he's, he's got

three days of the last time, and not the first he's

against me three times. not, for the other opponents always he's macho or there something,

he looks, he looks at when he wants, and like, I don't I'm not I'm not going to I'm not

the next month, when he's going to be able to the end up, when he's maybe, he can put any of the

little bit of any other than any other right, I'm gonna yeah, I've got to the war,

I'm proud to what you're, what you what you're, what you're, what you're, what you're, You have time

to stop for to study him various times, he's he's watching,

what's the opinion of his ignoring the fanfarronice of his character, what do you

think of him as an athlete? No, he's, I don't have to say to say about the

things that he had, I'd about all the people, he'd come over to get him,

and they're saying he's the athlete more, the people the people pay more the

people, but the Not only I, but as other athletes, for because of these things that he says, in the backstores, he's, you know, and the bestreary in, these things. And also, I

think he talks much and it's a little, right? And it's just. But he's a man, he's a complete, I see he's a guy complete, you know, there's a base good there, he mixes much the karate, with

part of character, with jiu-jitsu, that I think is the fort of him. And he will go and the other the same pattern that he went on the same

he's the last the last his last his last he's he has a pattern of

a lot, he mixes a lot he makes a little bit. He's just he's doing a

little bit the beginning when he fettor and he then he went to the category

he had the derot for Rke Bandier then he then he

then he did for pet mix mix that is an excellent lot and in

the last went for He got the James Gonzalez He's a little bit of a desal You think he performs Better than 6.6?

You think he will be more complicated for this in this division of Pairs? He is better than 6.5 than he was in 6.1? I think I'm preparing for this.

He's not going to He's not a guy grand, as I said. I think he doesn't get to lose much weight, no, I don't go pass through the process. It's not a-toe

that when I would to talk with him in the last last one, he'd he'd pay the last time, he'd pay the how is, you're going to be

like, if you're my manager, he'd have to pays combined was the other, he'd put a finger in

my car, saying that he'd not be the things and he was putting in a

lot, and he my company said, Leandro, he'd accept, the

he's combined that he's he's going to he's out, he's he's out of the lot.

But, but, but, because, also in the lesion is complicated. But I think he better. It's more

more, more than that with a, of the, of the, of the pressure, which is a sobrecar,

very grand for the athlete. And I think it's a little more more, but also, I'm in a

book, that I'm, not, I'm not not perning much pain to this lot.

I'm, I'm, will perform after this performance, depending of my performance,

if I'm to be fighting in the two categories. And how is it is to do you do that's more than the world of the

time? It's more the country and call the torsid? Yes, it will be obvious because the pressure there's

not two athletes of us have been in Ireland, and said that the Calderon there is

like a like a very similar to the people who are going to want to them to

them but it's but it's a lot to make a A muddown of Cala

in a bit of a good performance, you know, I'm accustomed to when it's a time,

I remember, I remember, I'm a natal, I used, to cover a event, por,

platinum fight, years ago, the patricio looked- was, I'm, it was in a bomboneer

there, man, that was the team- was the team, the, was, the,

I don't know, if it was not, I'm, there's been too, it's, it's,

it's, it's, it's, it's, Minot, so I was, so I was, it was a climate You're going, more to me, see this

same climate, but you're a favor of the car, right? Yes, it, it's be good, and the people here atal, we're accustomed to

that with this, that we're always to look at America, we're just we're used to be used to the territory

of the enemy, let me, and for me it's give a motivation more that will give a gas,

to me to be to make the public assist them of the very, there's a

great, it's a good, it's a more, you know, it's a more

because at all, it's there's this, of the rivalry of the

team, that's people, the guys say, the porrada in a

bankado for a point of the team. This will get a

little, that the group, that's that might do more, more to be

more to put there. In that was another even, not it was a pitiful brother. Yeah, Kyoto.

There's a series of the team, there were Quito, against Kimura, Kimura, contra combat, combat against Kyoto, and nobody's batted. It was all the world, and revolted,

everyone, right? The things have been better from the time to come, because the guy had already was quite, it was cruel,

this. Yeah, climate of war, and how is how you terminate the service? How is you get him?

I don't see this lot getting to the final of the battle, until the final of the three outs,

or I will knockoutier to him I will finalize to him but probably I'm going to finalize it because it will be a good one more because I'm a good one more because I'm doing Jiu-Gitz and I will show to him

that I'm superior in the Jiu-Gitz and give another a recital to the division that I'm going to more once a once and the Cerege of Bull then will be the

Lottos after the Jeremy Kennedy who was the adversary original James Galley how is the expectative to be he really internally to fight

after the confusion and a lot of a lot of a lot of the whole

it's a person for a person in grand it was I'm going to go to get to

he's a yeah, Gabriel Braga, it was he got another lot of

this the football is the war because it's it's

it moved much and so he's so he came to do

the we're doing the camp together so so

in the same time. I'm doing a little before, because there many athletes doing a

camp here, there's a little bit of here, the climate is a great for everyone. Everyone,

in the same in the same time, the same thing, it's a bad thing, you know, it's a

climate different to make a lot of a car of the commandant then.

Yes, and I never lute in the same car than he I,

I just looked in the car of Patrick, right, but never

never not I never, no In the fact, I would have in the same card

because he, I'm not I'm I'm in the same card that I'm was in the

country, was I'm under the the, the, the A. the Ressley Sean Bansch

against Sean Bansh in the same card and he he looked against the cheleta

and now I'm going I would have with the same car of Patrick and

now I'm go back to look the same again the comes a dobradian

And more one a Pete Bull Browns will dominate Ireland. All the other last night that's our last time

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