MMA Fighting - Trocação Franca | Sergipano: Cinturão dos médios do UFC ‘pertence ao Brasil’

Episode Date: February 23, 2022

André Sergipano em enfileirando a concorrência no peso médio do UFC, chegando a quebrar o braço de Ronaldo Jacaré em 2021, e fala ao Trocação Franca que tem planos ainda maiores no MMA. Em um p...apo franco, Sergipano explicou a origem do nome, já que ele é mineiro, esmiuçou o confronto com Uriah Hall, marcado para 16 de abril, as dificuldades que enfrentou no MMA antes de chegar ao UFC, chegando a cogitar se aposentar, e muito mais. O melhor do MMA brasileiro no Trocação Franca, toda quarta-feira, com o jornalista Guilherme Cruz e convidados. Andre Muniz is steamrolling middleweights left and right in the UFC, including his epic armbar over Ronaldo Souza in 2021. This week, he stops by Trocação Franca to break down his April 16 clash with Uriah Hall, discuss his plans for the future, the struggles he’s faced throughout his MMA career, why he considered retirement before signing with the UFC, and much more. Listen to Trocação Franca with Guilherme Cruz every Wednesday to hear from the biggest names on the hottest topics in the Brazilian combat sports world. Follow Guilherme Cruz @Guicruzzz Subscribe: http://goo.gl/dYpsgH Check out our full video catalog: http://goo.gl/u8VvLi Visit our playlists: http://goo.gl/eFhsvM Like MMAF on Facebook: http://goo.gl/uhdg7Z Follow on Twitter: http://goo.gl/nOATUI Read More: http://www.mmafighting.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You're listening to the Vox Media Podcast Network. Senoras and Seniors, in command of the podcast, Trocaation Franca, and representing the M.M.A. Fighting in Brazil, Guillermo! Hello, my friend of Lott.
Starting point is 00:00:37 Well, the 25th episode of the podcast, Trocaption Franca, a show of MMA in this immense world of sphere. I'm going to be able to be able to say American and M.I.F.R.N.C.R.R.C., on R.S. . I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I. I. I'm a. I'm a.-VVV.? Well, I'm going to return this fourth day, in the company
Starting point is 00:00:48 of Andres, Sergipano, and then assombering the middle of the FC and leaving the arm of the general to the same, you know, I'm a little more
Starting point is 00:00:56 than I'm a little more than I'm a bit more the opportunity to this time, the plan initial was to invite a journalist to talk about the UFC
Starting point is 00:01:04 the last month, the last month, but the United States, but the United but the agenda not were, then, so it's not,
Starting point is 00:01:11 the plan B, was to make a whole solo here, I'm even comment the event, all of the event, all of the
Starting point is 00:01:14 happened, but I'd wish I'd be sick as well as d'clock, I'm gonna'clock I'm with more of 38thew to Fever, who matthewortho I'm here recording, introduction to podcast, because to bring entertainment
Starting point is 00:01:24 for you and the my priority number one. So relax, you know, on the batapo, with Sergpano, who infanter Royal Hall on the day 16th of April. From other side of the line,
Starting point is 00:01:38 we're going to Andrew Moniz, the Andres, the day 16th of April on the FECC, all good, good, welcome, my friend,
Starting point is 00:01:44 welcome, welcome, my friend, let's say on a porrada of 16. It's that you're in You were in the busks of a great
Starting point is 00:01:51 Luda, after with a lot of year with two bellissom finalizations about Ronald Jacaree and Eric Anders. What's your
Starting point is 00:01:58 did the choice of the role as a adversary? Well, I know that's a guy very difficult a guy who defends me askeller,
Starting point is 00:02:06 has a good defense of the ground, analyzing by the other with a guy of the sopato
Starting point is 00:02:09 but they don't have a way where I want to get to get to and it was one of
Starting point is 00:02:16 the guys that I I was the top there was he, or was the Derentil, I don't know why the Derentio marked the Lutta, I don't know what happened with him, for me, too, it also doesn't even it's important.
Starting point is 00:02:27 So I was very happy when the UFC me gave this opportunity, I tried to put a date a little more to the month of May, but the only option was now in April, and I'd get to come up in May, in April, no, there's doubts that I'll
Starting point is 00:02:41 get even better. And it's, right? I represent the Brazil, there's the President of the is a lot of the Brazilian, the day 16th of April. What do you know, what's the question of the team, who's the President of the day of the same year, and the same time than I, and for me, and, too, it would be very good to have the two technicians of our present in the battle. And for this, this other, Rar-Haw is that classic, striker, that best grappler, but, as, as, he said, he has a success, contrae various Grapers in the UFC, you know,
Starting point is 00:03:14 like the guy of a chapato, for example, that was a little bit of a lot of the guy of the chapato,
Starting point is 00:03:42 the other, when did he do puttap, in front, He comes to wincing for decision, he he's been controlling the lout, he being harassing hout, not spone so when a tauter not
Starting point is 00:03:52 so, it's not to be difficult to put it to put it to make a bit more than that. Then it's a lot in round, for sure, to be a lot in-peak, and be bradstance, and you know,
Starting point is 00:04:02 to know the hour certain to me to me approximate. You think the strategy of his, is, to irrit the car, like,
Starting point is 00:04:10 to let the guy, he not, he not attack to force the guy to go up to the front and he counter-gopé and so you see you look at the career
Starting point is 00:04:18 it's curious because he entered in the F.C. had much hype in him. And then he started to have various derrots super,
Starting point is 00:04:24 there three dethrases. But from a time to come to he gave a guineadna in a career and,
Starting point is 00:04:29 he took the last other he got to put him to he was a sequence excellent,
Starting point is 00:04:34 no. With certain, but so, it's a attack is a very difficult,
Starting point is 00:04:40 not The big athletes, and he's very well-conceitued, you know, including the tricklans just a night like, like, with a foot,
Starting point is 00:04:51 so it's a matter so it's been being a real-rable I think the other, but it's might have been that's
Starting point is 00:04:59 a career, but the hall is a great athlete, we're, we've seen, this meldraughts in the last last lot, and we
Starting point is 00:05:07 also, we're a guy very expert, and it's about in the job of each other But I also have a great trainer, there's a great team that
Starting point is 00:05:15 give a great support. We're studying both the both the movements as much as the part of the defense in the soil,
Starting point is 00:05:22 to try to get some something different and we'll try to work on this game and I have sure that
Starting point is 00:05:29 that I could have been able to make a year 16 April, will be with a victory.
Starting point is 00:05:33 Curiously, he has this thing, he is, we'll see him like the
Starting point is 00:05:37 strike predominantly from the car of the the troca but he never was finalized in the MMA
Starting point is 00:05:42 you know what you've seen what you see the game of the game of the defense of whether he
Starting point is 00:05:48 is put in the ground what you think he's he in this area when he is forced to
Starting point is 00:05:53 work at the part of graplin in the yeah he does a job more of a guy
Starting point is 00:05:59 of the guy of the same he's a guy of a champion world of jjits
Starting point is 00:06:04 and he simply just superivive the position he travoled the arm of the car of
Starting point is 00:06:08 the guy of the So the guy not does, a child, a guy does an anti-jiu-jitsu trying to defend and survive, but I think my game of Jiu-Jitsu
Starting point is 00:06:19 is a game different, of many people in the category, are a guy who really is a finalization the time total, so I think he never trained with a guy of my way,
Starting point is 00:06:30 or never wrote with a guy in the same way than I, but I'm, I'm going to the evolution constant, I believe, I think, I think,
Starting point is 00:06:38 I think this this is a lot, for I understand that I know he won't be going to be back back back.
Starting point is 00:06:42 I believe that he will not want to be able to be able to I'm going to get to
Starting point is 00:06:48 the part of my time, the box I have been evolving, in my last few years, and I
Starting point is 00:06:54 have been certain that I will show a new for the division and I will be pretty
Starting point is 00:06:59 it. It's curious that if you look at he never was never finalized but it
Starting point is 00:07:04 is the same thing you could say the Jacare and the Eric Anders, he never had been finalized to try to
Starting point is 00:07:09 and the proper adversary that you confronted, the second battle under Taylor Johnson, he also never had been finalized you went there and
Starting point is 00:07:15 finalized him so you think that the day 16th April, you you, you canber this mark of his
Starting point is 00:07:21 and finalize him. If I say I don't want to this, I'm not saying, I'm not sure I'm sure
Starting point is 00:07:28 yeah, it would be more a finalization for my cartel and point to even more in my hype in the
Starting point is 00:07:34 way to the the centuron, but we also can't get to gore the way that it's going to the last month
Starting point is 00:07:42 for the last for out to house, so I'm preparing my body to my mind to know that's that's
Starting point is 00:07:48 the other side can't be a great battle, but it's that I just need a break, if me give
Starting point is 00:07:52 a opportunity if you get my last stastiske I, I'm not I'm just just thinking
Starting point is 00:07:56 in the position, no. You, apparently, you're, the, your desire to finalize,
Starting point is 00:08:01 you know, you finalizing Royal, what this this this fact does for you in terms of rank, you're not going to
Starting point is 00:08:06 batting the top 10 of the category, you think that finalized it, you're, you get in this select group and coming, obviously, a large, the pathes,
Starting point is 00:08:16 there's, to go to, the center of, I think he's, I'm not too, I'm not too, I'm not too, I'm not at a
Starting point is 00:08:24 return, I'm in a recinct, I think that's a lot of six points, uh, also, also, another luteute
Starting point is 00:08:30 that's a lot of the russ, which is the 10th, He's a man who who's a de Renthal, and I also do you also win to, I believe that if I wince, I'd have entered in this elect group, those top 10s.
Starting point is 00:08:44 I believe I'm going to enter in this group and then it comes a pass-hinted every way, it starts in a new one of the adversary, because they're great athletes, but all depends on the day 16th of my arm's to have been left, if God's if you want to be. You're going to, you're going to,
Starting point is 00:09:03 not you, for the two that you did in front to the Dana White so you're in those are in those stories that you're saying
Starting point is 00:09:10 the same contract, you're saying the same the same the same the same thing, the same thing, the same thing.
Starting point is 00:09:16 The Octagon is the same the same. When you go to take the vista, it's the same visor
Starting point is 00:09:21 so you're so you're not, you're the same year, I've been the company yeah,
Starting point is 00:09:27 understand, you know, I'm going to six zero in the business. Poh, pegando
Starting point is 00:09:31 this seven victory then then in the octagon You know, you know, that's going to be
Starting point is 00:09:36 that the division is a lot there's a lot of people, there's a lot of people, can't be to signer on this year? Man, I think that's very sincere, because it's all the
Starting point is 00:09:48 different luts, uh, those the next guys who are in bologna, I think the Restrict Lounge will do a lute or with a bohachin or with one of these two
Starting point is 00:10:00 there, uh, but Bouchinia said that this is a lot now with a road of Vettorio, but it's a very difficult. I believe that I'm going to becenaed this but I need to have been saying this
Starting point is 00:10:08 lute, I need to have been two battles to be able to get there in time. I want to understand a thing, how is what is André Moneis, Sergipano, is of Monsklau, he's
Starting point is 00:10:20 not of Sejip, it's a lot of Clare. What do you? Well, I'm, well, I'm in interior, my family of my parents are of my family of those Plasas, I'm not
Starting point is 00:10:32 I've been created here in Montclauars, right? My father, I was in the city very interior. My mom is in the district of Monsclarus, which is a lot of Leverista Lever. And I I started to train up in the
Starting point is 00:10:43 academy, with 13 years of age, the Jiu-Gitz. And it's normal in our region here, I think in the academy of the Brazil, always rolls the appellida. I I started, and the people said that
Starting point is 00:10:55 I was like I came from the people to Sejip. I think the people of my academy never even was in Seijip, you know, just I just spoke to
Starting point is 00:11:01 to say and the appellate it was the way I'm going going to the
Starting point is 00:11:06 national and now in the space world many people people know for the
Starting point is 00:11:12 appellido but I'm a man I'm a great to this because I represent two states of
Starting point is 00:11:17 Brazil of Brazil just in New New New New and Syype to name
Starting point is 00:11:22 and I have received various messages people of Sejica I'm me
Starting point is 00:11:27 inviting to go there to be I'm saying, for I represent so well I represent so well I'm saying this. I I thank you very, I thank you
Starting point is 00:11:36 very to ask you to my give. You know what I'm saying? You've been to Sejip, no? I'm still, I'm waiting. I'm just waiting. The guys... The fans of
Starting point is 00:11:50 Sergip, do you know that you are there? There's people who are there that people who are there? Many people, many people actually, after I'm a my channel on YouTube, let's just have a video talking about
Starting point is 00:12:00 about it, but it's a situation very interesting, when I went when I went to play in the UFC
Starting point is 00:12:06 San Paulo, not I'm not sure, I'm not a man, I'm a general, Sejip,
Starting point is 00:12:12 me called, saying, me give me to give me to say, that was the first athlete to get to
Starting point is 00:12:17 the UFC and I, I'm, I'm thank the I'm, I'm but I'm I'm, I'm I'm just
Starting point is 00:12:22 I'm not, I'm not, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm really I'm not very much for the carine, by the
Starting point is 00:12:26 talk, for the donations, but it's very legal. Man, yeah, it's a very very little bit of Sejip, because I think you're a period of Sejip, how is it like someone
Starting point is 00:12:35 to be a guy, how it's like someone to Sejip? The people are very beautiful, right? So, so, so, so,
Starting point is 00:12:43 this apriot is a guy, man, making less sense, so. But I'm talking of what important, yeah, that's,
Starting point is 00:12:51 that the, that's, that the lot of the time perfect, you know, car, finalized,
Starting point is 00:12:56 you know, the finalization the year, after the Eric Anders there, he left the back to
Starting point is 00:13:03 home, too, that's a time, this year, this year, to you know, for you,
Starting point is 00:13:09 what represented these two foundations, especially the jackaree, yeah, because I think has been
Starting point is 00:13:13 the most special of all of all. Cary, this year of what was the year was extraordinary
Starting point is 00:13:20 so, I did, I disputed two championships of J. I'm a World of Alson Kimon of the CBJJ in San Paul
Starting point is 00:13:26 and I'm American of the Cibroix. I'm a champion in my category, Master, a super peshae, a facie preta, and these are these two
Starting point is 00:13:34 Luts in the MMR. I'm trying to a person who has a story, both in the Lema as a lot of MMA as a lot of Tijuana, in NECC,
Starting point is 00:13:45 like Ronald Jacare. You can't just to fight with him, because it's an opportunity to work with people that have this level, this patamar
Starting point is 00:13:54 perante these modalities, and there's a non-sport. So, the victory against Ronald me put on the radar of the division of everyone, and also
Starting point is 00:14:03 a man story and the story of his parallel, because, like, always when when it's been going to say, when it's a carer,
Starting point is 00:14:10 it will happen two situations. The people will cite the Roge-Greys in the final of the Worldial 2004,
Starting point is 00:14:17 and then, because, for have been the same thing, they'll I'll just come back me citing by the finalization
Starting point is 00:14:23 that there was a fratura and as a guy of a lot of media the guy is a ral of the churice for me
Starting point is 00:14:30 with all the much, much respect and I always remember me, I think I gave a little
Starting point is 00:14:37 my name in the story M.A. Also, in the story of the F.C. I think there were
Starting point is 00:14:42 a few the occasions that there had been that the situation where the person
Starting point is 00:14:46 the other he was he broke on the arm of the adversary, and the victory when Eric
Starting point is 00:14:54 Andrews me put it puttow in the ranking and I was watching
Starting point is 00:15:00 I've seen I videos of people that people who have a knowledge
Starting point is 00:15:08 that and they said it was the first that I would infendron
Starting point is 00:15:14 a wrestler that a level better even the Andreessen in the hand very pesed
Starting point is 00:15:19 because he's a guy that a guy that it's difficult to put it to go to him to go back how I
Starting point is 00:15:23 would have to say so I I'm quite many people that made the division I think
Starting point is 00:15:30 kind of complexed and how I could get that the domino of the
Starting point is 00:15:34 only the same against a man there's that came in the country
Starting point is 00:15:39 there's just to thank to all Now, I'm over pressure, everyone now, want to continue finalizing,
Starting point is 00:15:51 continue putting good performances, and I hope to respond to everyone, and to live the name of Brazil to the top of the division.
Starting point is 00:16:00 When you were escalated to implement the Jacarev and was studying the lute of Jiu-Gitz also, or
Starting point is 00:16:08 did you just of M.A? I've asked just to M.M.A., you know? Because it's very different, you know?
Starting point is 00:16:16 And, And I had the victories, the derogues, the last the last few months, and I knew the difficulty that was, but I think
Starting point is 00:16:26 when you're a lot of the name, the major blocker that you have is mental, if you look to the side
Starting point is 00:16:33 and see that person and understand that person is human, that she can get an interview
Starting point is 00:16:40 when I'm did you, when the San Siba gave a lock against him the day that he said
Starting point is 00:16:45 that when when he said, that was, side, because I saw the Anderson on the base of a rawn in his, he said, he said, caraca, boy, go on the porrada against Anderson's silver, no, man,
Starting point is 00:16:53 man, no, when you encounter these guys, that are lenders of sport, you'll do that trancard, but you have to understand that everyone can't lose, not, if you don't
Starting point is 00:17:05 do you know, not you'll do? Did you do? Some of the intonaut when you were talking to him to go in court? I'm very sad to you. It's,
Starting point is 00:17:13 from the moment that I I've accepted the look, to have been to be in carada, all the two athletes oriental of
Starting point is 00:17:20 the jiu-s very respectful, not I'm and I'm quite the time for the time I'm respecting
Starting point is 00:17:27 him, but in a moment no, in my head, I always think of a great
Starting point is 00:17:33 fight, you know, I'm not that's right to say to you, I don't imagine
Starting point is 00:17:36 that the lot would be that I'm my son- were working to work to
Starting point is 00:17:41 a lot for decision, get a round to round, to use the my
Starting point is 00:17:47 juvenile of my favor my impetus physical is a male to leave a round who'd
Starting point is 00:17:51 know if we'd if we'd if we're a idea the idea that the condition of
Starting point is 00:18:00 he's being a great athlete yeah would give a would be and we'd
Starting point is 00:18:05 be able to let's this lot of the decision to
Starting point is 00:18:07 the way the how far you finalized he was a bonus
Starting point is 00:18:12 car for I was finalized the not to leave to house, that
Starting point is 00:18:16 bonus in the 50,000? Yeah, with a man, with a great question for an
Starting point is 00:18:23 athlete, also the respect of the public, the carin of the public,
Starting point is 00:18:26 yeah, the company to see that you working in a productive, and I
Starting point is 00:18:32 was like, I was elected for various sites Americans, I'm indication
Starting point is 00:18:37 for the other for the national for the last the finalization,
Starting point is 00:18:39 uh, in that as performance, not not the matter of the person who finalized was a American, but no, not can't
Starting point is 00:18:51 compare the athlete that he finalized against Ronald Jacaree, in the level of Jiu-Gitz, the name, so, so, so, so, the finalization
Starting point is 00:18:58 of his time, was a long, he was taking a attack in a look, I could get this position, but it is incomparable
Starting point is 00:19:04 to the people, uh, it happened the same thing against the Eric Andres, it was a bellissimo movementation,
Starting point is 00:19:12 but then the event was a event with a event with a hype really great and there were various knockouts and I
Starting point is 00:19:20 even think that in this event I don't gain the bonus but were distributed the 8 when I was why don't
Starting point is 00:19:28 distribute the 9 and I didn't me give one man it's it's 50 million for dana no is nothing
Starting point is 00:19:34 for us for us for it's for does it's a money you know it's just
Starting point is 00:19:40 I'm the year you see how it with the things, but God, God, God, I renovated my contract, I've never a lot of the contract with Dr. Andrews,
Starting point is 00:19:50 important is this, to see in the pathos that the way of the victories, and the things will happen, and I have certain that the next with the same atuctions, a bonus will be.
Starting point is 00:20:01 You, I know, for more four, or was a contact more long, this time? For more four luts, when I was a contender, I signed four luts, I signed four luts,
Starting point is 00:20:10 I, I think, the pandemic, to win the time, I've renavue more four, I'll buy one, and there's more three brigas, if God, we'll keep them, we'll go to keep them
Starting point is 00:20:19 with the FICA, yeah, after you've beence two-lutons in the contender, yeah, me too, think,
Starting point is 00:20:27 quite that not roll it, we've got to to finish with the FECD, to have to do a contender to have your
Starting point is 00:20:32 opportunity? With a certain, I, who fought, I, who passed in my MAA National
Starting point is 00:20:38 and I, I've got almost all the great events of Brazil, was the first ranking during much time
Starting point is 00:20:43 and you see athletes that's the you've got you've got to get in and then when it's
Starting point is 00:20:49 going to when it's my way? It's not a feel in the baying and when I looked at
Starting point is 00:20:55 the first first to have to a country in New Gerais a friend
Starting point is 00:21:01 my friend my friend I think it was a great lot we saw
Starting point is 00:21:05 in a torrada three rounds we're being a car in chate or the kind of
Starting point is 00:21:09 this man also and I was contracted and I was I was I looked at the American
Starting point is 00:21:14 who came in Victor an American who was a real American and all American and all another wrestler
Starting point is 00:21:20 yeah I took a knockdown he and then he put up back back and I I'm
Starting point is 00:21:24 back and I thought that just that was not that wasn't sufficient to get a
Starting point is 00:21:32 proffat I'm sorry I'm totally arpe I'm sorry now I'm when I finalize the
Starting point is 00:21:37 first time but it's all this did all right all the right. I think I entered Maduro in
Starting point is 00:21:45 for this is this sequence of victory and these two when the people in the time these two last
Starting point is 00:21:51 two last few last few times another one with the other point O'Reck Andrews that did do that
Starting point is 00:21:56 did you know, he's got to the name of the organization so it's very experienced very rodado
Starting point is 00:22:03 and a guy with a guy with a guy to have to bat and have to bathe have to batten
Starting point is 00:22:08 very a very pesada to be he to be able to get to get to so I think the time
Starting point is 00:22:13 of God and I'm going to be able to I'm doing my career in the F.C. I'm
Starting point is 00:22:19 working a lot of I'm a dedication 100% to all the food, the food, the
Starting point is 00:22:28 food, the time, the evolution my own that I know that more
Starting point is 00:22:33 more than permanence It's man, and we we're we're in this moment
Starting point is 00:22:37 curious, important for Brazil, in the category in the middle, what has of the Brazilian is a dure getting to be
Starting point is 00:22:46 a great, we have obviously a barachin that's there, have the opportunity to have the central, there's you,
Starting point is 00:22:52 you're blinded, Rodolf, Poatan, the Robocop, the tour, but there's many people in this
Starting point is 00:22:59 category, trying the kind of the group, and it's a division important to Brazil that has
Starting point is 00:23:04 during a lot of the a champion. You, obviously, is to be in the UFC to be a champion, that would be a, a, a, a, one of a,
Starting point is 00:23:14 your signoron, that's been of a guy like, with a man, so, with you say, like, you say, man, even that's,
Starting point is 00:23:23 that's how much compare the, man, who had to have a point to see, when I was going to be,
Starting point is 00:23:28 you know, what I'm talking, who I'm talking, who I'm, I'm trying, and, but it's a, but it's
Starting point is 00:23:33 a, the, first, Brazilian this champion, Moritz of Bustamante, was the champion of this category, then was Anderson-Silva, independent if it was I or if
Starting point is 00:23:44 were any of any of the Brazilian, I think it's a siturant that pertains to us Brazilians, for all the other people, we've been most grand, great athletes in this category, Victor Maw, Witton-Faw, Anderson,
Starting point is 00:23:55 Silva, Aliot, Machida, and for there, go, and then, would be great-noms, it would be, I'll be very simple to you, so to enter to rank,
Starting point is 00:24:04 just to enter in the rank, it's a thing for me, phenomenal. Escal the rank is a thing unacreditable. My objective is to enter in
Starting point is 00:24:12 your top 10. After I go to go back, I started to see that in the centerer.
Starting point is 00:24:19 It's surreal for you. It's surreal for you see where you're entering in the ranking of UFC and look to remember
Starting point is 00:24:27 those moments of difficulties that you passed, to quite have to have to have your spouse to convince
Starting point is 00:24:33 to not to let's the sport, how you see when you see when you see when you see, you see, it's just to thank you, man, because there's things that happens that don't have
Starting point is 00:24:44 no explanation, you know, when I had to be able to because of, justly, she went, justly, she went to take to the course
Starting point is 00:24:50 of the concourse of a minor, the city, very in the north of the state, very north of state, very bigena, where my
Starting point is 00:24:59 training did a some regretted, I'm very great, the people that were who me They've helped, but we're talking at a
Starting point is 00:25:04 level, uh, the world of competition, so, and I had decided that I would be able to, and then, go to the trajectory, to come in, start the event nationals,
Starting point is 00:25:16 and participate in contender, and then, now, in the RANK, when I go and and conversed to even with my companions of the team of the TFT, I always say that the
Starting point is 00:25:26 I, the job, the work, compensa, compensation, compensa, abdication of various things, a compromisement, you can't even
Starting point is 00:25:36 not get to get to be in the F.C., but things good happen for the people who are dedicated, who are working the right,
Starting point is 00:25:43 the way, the way, the time of God, but it will happen. When was this?
Starting point is 00:25:49 In what year, that's the month you almost largely Tata and Philippe, and say,
Starting point is 00:26:03 well, will roll a pender to see. It's a game to see a and I came to
Starting point is 00:26:08 the war that I had had been in a russas had a opportunity. I went to do that
Starting point is 00:26:13 in 9.3 and said, oh, we need, you need that you do you do a
Starting point is 00:26:16 two victories to get a to try to try to try to you. I'm
Starting point is 00:26:23 I got and I still not so not so it came there's
Starting point is 00:26:27 okay in this contender I was I was all re-bentated, I've had many problems
Starting point is 00:26:32 of Visto, not only so I'm, but various at thefts came out of the joelers, I've got a
Starting point is 00:26:39 friday, I've got five weeks without a spire, and the final, the visth
Starting point is 00:26:45 I'm getting, I'm going to get to the last, I came in
Starting point is 00:26:50 the quarter I'm, in the Qaeda, I did the time, did it, did what had
Starting point is 00:26:56 done some something in my case, I'd never to liberate, all doing
Starting point is 00:27:00 wrong wrong. And then an company, Alex of his said, I just
Starting point is 00:27:06 want to you know, no matter if you go to decision, you go to show,
Starting point is 00:27:10 just wince, for all the all of you get to get some something good for you and I
Starting point is 00:27:15 went to and I said, I said, don't be sure, if you don't get
Starting point is 00:27:19 the we're not going to get something we're there, then,
Starting point is 00:27:22 you got the opportunity, no, I'll return again, I,
Starting point is 00:27:27 and I went How is the moment of, this day, well, the chance of your life, to contend, a penile, a penile, and be there, and get there, with a fracture in a face, with tantus problems, get there, examines of the head,
Starting point is 00:27:41 point a problem, like, imagine the desperia to say, carly, man, just is doing the mess here to see me, man, man. In a lot more important in my life, just is doing merder here. After that did all right, because I knew that I'd
Starting point is 00:27:54 and I'm going to go to all these difficulties. I'm a guy who has a very strong for this, for the for the whole, for the whole, there's been a lot of the I'm going to have to be to me to kill. If he's not me
Starting point is 00:28:10 to get me, I'm going to be able to get him, I'm going to be, I'm in the mind of my head, I was the man I could talk in me, but I was going to come up to the other, I'd take a hand, and I'd,
Starting point is 00:28:21 took a man, and continue to understand, understand, It's that when the when the body fall, the mind
Starting point is 00:28:26 when the thing is a man, I think that's that you have done these,
Starting point is 00:28:30 all these, these, these provisions that you have to have been to get the your
Starting point is 00:28:34 destiny. I don't know, the justice pertens to the man, but for
Starting point is 00:28:40 some reason, I'm where I'm, I think I can't get more long, and I
Starting point is 00:28:45 don't work, and I'm working to even more more for me, but the
Starting point is 00:28:48 people who are my people, my wife, my my wife, my my
Starting point is 00:28:53 senators, by the metocidal in my city of Moskla, the north of Minas, now, today I'm a reference of the sport here in the region. So, many of the people who admire my work, dedication, and for all the people of
Starting point is 00:29:07 Brazilian, everything, all the people, all the world is all the more difficult. So I think some reason I have, and all the way that I'm all right, it's a moment. As a lot of the people who are
Starting point is 00:29:22 getting, there are many people who are getting, much hype in in the time, there's a tonk, for just having a guy who's got
Starting point is 00:29:27 in the first of the guy in there's got to be able to get a little people who's getting people and then people
Starting point is 00:29:33 and then the story that he has in the kickbox and so but you think that your consistency
Starting point is 00:29:40 the work you're doing in the FC getting more a victory now with a top 15 you think
Starting point is 00:29:47 you think you should you think you first you know you
Starting point is 00:29:49 don't be I'm very sincere for you. I believe, if I win my next my next the way
Starting point is 00:29:58 I'm doing doing it, I'm doing a lot of a little for the signoron. Loggue
Starting point is 00:30:05 you can evaluate a career, the has a story of his merit total
Starting point is 00:30:09 of his trajectory with the champion and it also happens if the
Starting point is 00:30:14 champion will remain with the champion with the front
Starting point is 00:30:18 the next can happen the fight in any way but it not the way that's being
Starting point is 00:30:27 to be designed to be in the way, every person has your trajectory, your difficulties, his barriers,
Starting point is 00:30:32 he has this trajectory, I've got to my name, for me to say, he will get to
Starting point is 00:30:39 the world, and the people of my team were talking with Rodolf Vierra
Starting point is 00:30:43 in the United and he, he, he, he, he, he,
Starting point is 00:30:46 a car, decuradis in jujits, yeah, champion of all, and he said,
Starting point is 00:30:50 that, in the fact, for him, who has the best jiu-mets of the middle of the address
Starting point is 00:30:54 from the address from the time. Really? That's this declaration for the person of the guy like
Starting point is 00:31:01 Rodolf Vieira. Yeah, thank for Rodolf there. Rodolf, he's a man who's a man who's
Starting point is 00:31:07 always being quite, he's very very well. Abreeder. A brother there, there's a family little,
Starting point is 00:31:15 the carotown there. I'm in a whole of the people, with all the his analogy of his name can't measure yeah,
Starting point is 00:31:23 thank you for a question God, God, God, God, God, you know, I don't say that I'm not
Starting point is 00:31:29 feel like the lot of the team came up, I think the people who's playing up to the end to the people,
Starting point is 00:31:35 but that you're going to the trajectories there, God, and put those things, can't be
Starting point is 00:31:42 those things, and continue in the time of the way of your Jiu-Santis. Look at
Starting point is 00:31:48 the category now, in the top 10 of the division look the list for adesania the I think Vittaker Vettori
Starting point is 00:31:53 Canonia Bronson Borrashina Hermanson Strickland Tiel Hall and the Gassel and these 11 are the
Starting point is 00:32:00 champion and the 10 first minkeated the only that has the Jiu Jitsu is maybe the principal
Starting point is 00:32:06 arm is the I think that this facilita I think nothing is nothing is nothing is
Starting point is 00:32:11 but I think this makes that a guy with a guy with a guy that has a
Starting point is 00:32:17 a guy that in filerate and get there to the Adesani and finalize it also? There's to go to continue to
Starting point is 00:32:25 evolve and have the sort of the next encastes of the future the game batta but I think
Starting point is 00:32:34 that's the finalization if the adversary will err, you're being being prepared and
Starting point is 00:32:38 knowing using using the opportunity I think there's much the there's much a design
Starting point is 00:32:45 to have a designia and I I have to think to think about my next adversary, in my my next fight, in this camp that I'm doing,
Starting point is 00:32:54 I know the difficulty that's going to be and continue evolving. I think to you can't put in practice a good Jiu-Gitzen,
Starting point is 00:33:01 a good wrestling, we have to be affi-a-an-a- very affiated to you can't get a distance that you can't put to back
Starting point is 00:33:11 when your adversary feasts or when he erran. And there's no other way. If you're just just entering, the guy,
Starting point is 00:33:17 it's very It's very easy to defend the car to defend the garage also helps a good good job and you can't make sure
Starting point is 00:33:23 you can't make sure you force your adversary to go back to the end up and then you have a breached to put a back
Starting point is 00:33:31 and then you say I need to a opportunity and I'm try to I'm trying to this in my training,
Starting point is 00:33:38 my trainer and attack co-cobra a lot of finalize always, always give a point night
Starting point is 00:33:42 finalize protection, jujjjjjjiv progressive not that like I don't like I don't marra lute and
Starting point is 00:33:47 be backing. This is a thing I do do you have natural, to be back my Jiu-Git- but I'm gonna
Starting point is 00:33:54 try to pass muttah, to get him to get the cause, finalize and so, and so, in the positions,
Starting point is 00:34:01 all the position with pressure and batting. Let me see we can't continue to continue to continue to
Starting point is 00:34:06 that this game, this job in this thing. It's just to we see, a lot
Starting point is 00:34:11 people, going to out to far far, to train and you have no in the TFT,
Starting point is 00:34:16 like a TTA, who has a parceria with America Top Team, for example, Marietta, that is your
Starting point is 00:34:22 company of their team in the FTT, but you're a lot of time in America Top Team, not physical,
Starting point is 00:34:28 fixed there, you know, and you can't this possibility to go to do this maybe to make a
Starting point is 00:34:34 more sense a style to do you that in a TIT, there's a companyer that that help
Starting point is 00:34:39 more, a trainer more, a trainer maybe, you can't this possibility in the
Starting point is 00:34:44 future to do you do do you do to do this intercum to pass a time there? I think not only so there's many places
Starting point is 00:34:50 that you'd would be able to be able to be able to be able to we've been in Thailand in Thailand
Starting point is 00:34:58 there's training in Maitai in the Brazil we have we've been the world the world is the world
Starting point is 00:35:06 is the best than the world not really we need to we have to have to we have to we have
Starting point is 00:35:12 we have and if it's necessary to be to be to get a people,
Starting point is 00:35:18 the team will take this decision there's who's my person who
Starting point is 00:35:23 do you do that but if if it's necessary to be some we're going to
Starting point is 00:35:28 be able to be able to keep moving. Maneu Shipana thank for your
Starting point is 00:35:32 time so anxious for your time to the battle of April to
Starting point is 00:35:35 Arrebeen and bring a return you thank you your opportunity
Starting point is 00:35:39 I'm all right good for all all the The best way possible, we'll
Starting point is 00:35:44 get a name of my city of Monski to go to the world and to present the Brazil and we're in
Starting point is 00:35:51 this time of this time of this time to get back the time of you Mugugust the podcast to try the
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