MMA Fighting - Trocação Franca | Sheetara quer combater machismo no UFC (+ Capoeira, Lins e Silveira)

Episode Date: May 31, 2023

Mayra Sheetara encara Holly Holm na luta principal do UFC de 15 de julho, em Las Vegas, e quer usar a oportunidade para calar o sexismo dos fãs que não curte ver mulheres em posição de destaque nos eventos. O podcast dessa semana traz, ainda, entrevistas com Elizeu Capoeira e Philipe Lins, que lutam sábado no octógono, e Josh Silveira, que se parte em busca de uma vaga na semifinal do GP dos meio-pesados da PFL. O melhor do MMA brasileiro no Trocação Franca, toda semana, com o jornalista Guilherme Cruz e convidados. Mayra Bueno Silva meets Holly Holm in the main event of a UFC Vegas card on July 15 — and she wants to use the opportunity to silence the sexism of fans that don’t like to watch women headlining cards. This week’s episode of the podcast also features interviews with Elizeu Zaleski and Philipe Lins ahead of Saturday’s UFC show, plus Josh Silveira discussing his path in the 2023 season of the PFL. Listen to Trocação Franca with Guilherme Cruz every week to hear from the biggest names on the hottest topics in the Brazilian combat sports world. Follow Guilherme Cruz @Guicruzzz Subscribe: http://goo.gl/dYpsgH Check out our full video catalog: http://goo.gl/u8VvLi Visit our playlists: http://goo.gl/eFhsvM Like MMAF on Facebook: http://goo.gl/uhdg7Z Follow on Twitter: http://goo.gl/nOATUI Read More: http://www.mmafighting.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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American, M.M.A. in the States of America, after a weekend of M.M.A. with four interviews exclusive. The podcast brings a papo to Eliseo Capoeira that's a suspension

Saturday, onto Abu Bakar, Numbedov, primed of Agia Dugistone, and Philip Lynch that's out with Maxing Grishin

in the same card. There's also a resume with Josh Silvera, that retorn the Jala of the PFL in the next month of the VAL in the second final of the GP millionaires of the Mioe Pesado of the Meevese,

to talk about the career, or the Pai, Treanator, and much more. But the program starts the same with Mareh that's the last year of L.C. no day 15 of July, against the end of the champion Holy Home in Las Vegas.

See, I'm in the other side of the line. We have made Aira Shittata that on the day 15th of July will do Manevent of the FC against the MOYEVORMITT. He had the muddance of the middle of the METT, ended up adiando a little,

and it's a champion. But, but I'm going to the podcast, more the expectation for a lot for a lot of your career

against one of the best of all the time of the sport also, too well, people, all right? I'm very

very happy. I'm very very happy. I goce to talk my career step by step, I go ahead

and the next step that I'd like would be really to be doing my career was to

do a a lot principal, right? And then when they offered me a Misha, she had some

problems, then she was the principal. I said, I said, I said, all right, I'm going,

she was being she machuking, and the other little bit of the role and now, I'm really a realization of

the work of the years, that we've been doing, that we've been doing, so I don't I'm

really. The Misha had had been to pass to five, to three rounds, is that? No,

no, what happened was that, was that, up the adana, and it and he got in

the first of the day. And then they asked her if we're if we're sure she

was a lot and she was very she was not over the but it was done she lesioned

days after and it in terms of stil of the style of you know to make

a Raleh Rhohm it's, it's, moved to better for you, you think the

the game or the game or a lot a lot more the way the last no

exist, but it's less difficult. It's a little more difficult. The Role is a more complicated than the Misha, so, right? It's the last thing that the Mish she, she has more a distance, a boy, she's very long, and she has a movementation of perna very good, but also, ultimately, she's

using this, she's on using more the Graplin, what me favorizes for this but if she's being, being being, saying, the Ralee that she's a lot that's a bit complicated, so. You think the courage to her to turn a lot chata, of

getting a distance, jogging a shot and jogging the superculing, maintaining the distance,

and not going to the porrata with you. In some moments, it's like, but it's like you

know, and you know, I'm, I'm going to go to work to perform so, so for me

independent, if she want to she will be she's going to be able to look at

because I don't want to not, because I don't know the person has been

a preconce with the women event, so I don't give

the Mutile for them to go to more than the other than the other people are the question to do you because the

why you think the role that's actually the example of the Markenzie that I would say and it was a lot-on, it was a porrador

it was a porrasle Rue, Angela Rue, showed much the cause-and-a- could have been called out of finalized a

various times but it but what you think you think you're of the culture of sport a little,

a little, not, much, of much, that doesn't you can't go and doesn't go

to see a woman in the the Lutainstap? What do you think it happens to... I think it's a little of machismo, to think we're not a lot of the month. But the time is not that's the month. Amanda, we're taking, the Luta of Amanda, I think it's impossible

to have a lot of ruin, too, in this lute. So, it's going to end up, the problem, like, the whole, like, of the main thing, but it's that, the sport, unfortunately, he is masculinized, even, they still, not see as a sport feminine, but we'll get there,

a little bit of a year we'll get there's a responsibility you know, you put this responsibility in the way of you to try to convince who even know, I'll go there

you know, you have to wince for your career you have to gain more money, to get to get up to the cinturon, but you

put, you have to do show because I want to convince these people who still can't even exactly, it's interesting,

because I'm an person, that's the more the more than the more more than the , you can't put on the

of me. And I'm a bigot to a bighto a lot to make a whole to show to the people that we can do make a card

tranquillament, can't encabeas a card and can't and get it. And, and it's all, this is a

lot of making it's about, she was to be to a decision and it was a

really good it, it was a very biggant. The lute is your with the role of the

role, you think that it will do five rounds or you think that you

take the last. Look, I will you want to talk to you know

I'm going to I think it would be able to three rounds but the ral I think it's for the I think it's

I'm not not going to go to chel before she got a coached her she won't one way in MMA by the

right by the right exactly finalized also by just by the campions yeah

so I'm so I'm go no coocea Roli I will I'm I'm gonna

I'm not we're not we're In a not, very very

very we're a new generation and we're going going to get a new and it's a country that's

a Brazilian, you know, you think the venceeing a holy-home, there's total the whole piece

of the name that she put a just in a chance of a centuron we'd have to

know, but it's getting, but it's getting, it's, it's, uh,

penit or not yeah to yeah, yeah, yeah, and then maybe the

juliana have a chance when going to hold out of the lesion, not you know, but you think that's a

real home with a victory impressive, you get to be the proper to get in the top of the seaturon, after Amanda and

Amanda and well, we'll get the home and then we're just it's impossible the athlete to not think of this.

A we say, ah, we're really I'm thinking much on not really I'm really impossible to think if

if we're going to get to get to it's not. It's a more. It's more of

you can say, you're this is a piece that I don't go to carry. This is the one that I don't I don't go to carry. Of, like, you gain, that you

will be the next one defiant of the central. This is a piece that I don't go. I love to court my process. I love to cut my training I love to do you, I do you know what I'm doing there, so. So, this is a piece that I don't know what I don't

mean that I don't know. I don't know. I think, loch, if I get, I'm in the book, but not it, like, as well, I always said, yeah, Gu, ranking for me, these things, not enche

my, my my heart. My heart enche when I sublo in in the same, I do the world,

and the people say, caramba, there, there, there, there's three performance in the FC,

which is the night, that's the performance of the night, I have to have to be these four

people, it's all that that's all that's, for me, it's not that's the point, the people,

the people have to the people, have been to go, even, we're not after you

can't be a reality home, but three three semases there's a other event or another person

that convince the Anwette no. As soon as I'm doing now, as I'm doing what is the

logic, like the reality of I'm talking to be the Ralee? I'm a third. So if you

go back, there's a much, because, but if it's happened, it's for a reason,

God's is doing this opportunity, I'm going to do you not, this thing,

not, you don't have the car, the UFC came, you know, you know, it's,

entertainment. They want to see they're going to look good. It's true, but you think to be in this battle, let's see this centurion. Who's who is the other side? Who's

be Amanda Nunes or will be Aldana? I'm a big fan of Amanda, of the reality. I'm big fan of Amanda. I think she she won't of all the world, of all those

champions of a form inacreditable. But I think she's not more in PIC Navi, it's Nguerne to N'OV,

donor of two Cinturon, I believe I that she's she's there in the book of the the posentadouria and the Irene

now, the Mexico is baling, the Mexico is now, so I think the Adana. I think it's the

Aldana. You think it's more because the, maybe, the fact of the person who has been

who has been the game of the Udana is a totally. Totally, I think it's the fault of

family there, I'm a baby-sign, I think it's a lot of fun. Because Amanda, Amanda, Amanda, most, it's difficult to have someone in this category to gain to her. Because she's not. For you, it's just now.

For you'd be a special, being a champion who's who made a story? Ganyando of someone like Amanda Nunes, than to gain of the Aldana. With all the certainty, to me, gain of Amanda, that is a bigotivist, but I think not just for me,

for all the men's of the division. If Amanda, she'd be posentat, she'll is the best of the time. He'll care, or care, not. But if Amanda

to be a imposentate now, it's a great to get to get to be in the case, who I think

I, Kettley, was the only those who were the onlyks who not in the division

that's more there, understand, so, so, because we're, even, because we're,

also, being, an experience absurd, to enter in an octagon Rue with Amanda,

gained, that got to be the world, me, would be the world, would be,

and I, of everyone. If I don't me can't even she went to know in the academy, she went

in a market top team. Or you didn't train with her. She went to she was out of she went

no, no, I didn't get to find her here, but it was a thing I wanted really, so I'd

just train with the Keel here. It was I'm a really, I trained with Kailerer

with Akeh with Amanda, would be with a chance of so sure, with certain, so who can't

so, so can't not roll this training, but it you contra her

of the Octoguan in a day. I'm working to get this level, like, a day to be able to have opportunity to fight with that. That's what we're working,

I'm working very working very, we're working incessantly here to get this level to be able to this honor to be a honor

to be a honor to get a honor to get a honor to the other side of the officer in the FECA after a time in the time of course that's a time

that had to be to be a longed to the situation on the Combition Athletic, that case of Doppe that you tried battled to fight

to brigar, but in the end of the end of the last time not you don't get, how it's

the, the degree of finally to finally, to do you first, thank you for the convict

Mr. Gilaam, I'm, I'm very very, anxious, anxious, most,

to be talking my foot now and in the octon, and, and,

car, the focus is being in this the Luta, Passed, pass-possed, BORRour with

all. And, car, Feliz too really, to be able to be able to work and

show in the better than the Lut. I accompanied with Chana Marcel, your company,

the guy, the team during this, this, this, this, this,

this, this, this, the, with the launch of the pharmacy, explain,

what the what happened exactly, and it and it has generated the

your your case of the dog in the ostalin that's a question that's

a person alleging the same thing in the supplement contaminated because it

a substance that it's a not see all the most the

most the the athletes alleges alleges and various

just have got they can have suspension for

because it's confirmed that was that was Yes, exactly.

Yeah, in my case, it was the same form, it was the contamination even that was, but the pharmacy, she not, it's not, it's not, it's not,

it's not, so, so, then, that it got me, complicating more with the cause- but it

was a contamination, yes, was made the exams all, certain, and now the life that's see he's over,

there's a prejudice of caramb, but, but, Tomo, Tomo no paro, de-o-o-o- adjust a lot

in my life particular, in the other than the lot, so I've to do you, I've done to

do you, to get more more than my family, too, because it's always a correaria, now,

just are 14 years as a professional and since when I started, it was just on the I'm just

on, and loo- and, foot-and- and focused, 100% in the lot.

So, I've this time also to organize other things particular

and and to go out of 100%, focused now in the lot. You had a lot marked in in April,

the yearn past, and it was going to because of this. Exactly. It was the prejuice,

other the money, that I think it was not that the money in the money in the

was four hundred and a dollars, and it had been, I'd get a in the

money, it's possible bonus, bonus of victory, bonus of performance that you

got got to a lot of that's I've earned a lot So it's a thing And I'm

And then it's A lot When the athlete is When the When he's There's a But it's But the

But the great He's in the When he's in the Mentionerer is the Patricinators And then So the

You have In the camp Practically Pertito So, the gas Yeah, it was very

great Very great Yeah You've Caut Processing Pharmacy For they

not have recognized the Culpate, you're saying that you can't show that you're trying to

prove the case? Cair, it was providencied all the but I didn't have any money to

have a idea to pay an job, I don't go, I'm going to be

a big, and me afunding in a dived that I didn't

me have been, and I still then, so, God, so,

God, what what Conscience limp, in the point of that I went to go and I'm trying to

prove that was a problem, you want to say, that the justice be made a after a way, or in

some way, someone will pay for this then it's all, it's all the time, you know, the

other, your next adversary, you're going to discount on this frustration of that you

pass on these last months, yeah, with certain and there have been much

in, man, yeah, the the Luta is, like I said, no,

against Muniz now will get the prim of of Khabi you think he's got to go up

the fight? You'll get a man who he's a man who he's a he's a

certain experience he's in the FECC but the guy for being a prime of a more to the

fight too, right? With a character, yeah, come in the name forte there,

there's the family so I think yeah it's it's it's

eleving more the level of the a lot, so, the fact of the

name, but, it was a lot that I wanted to do a lot of I'm not happened,

but who know, in a problem, then it's a bug even, it's not

to be to be to be a lot of in 2020, I think, I know,

what happened of the part of there, that, that we're not, we're not,

we're not, not, but now, the last the last the way, you're

you, the company, the company the The guy who's always going to go ahead and the violence. I like to pourrived to a porrida,

to finalize, always go ahead of the impolgant. You see this same style of him? Or you think he will try more the lute more

more an anti-joke-contra against you? The game of a more more cadencied even, it's a game that he prepare

all to he to grab- and to try to the graping of his this is the focus

of his principal of his but he's not a guy bobo in in the part

kickbox he's he's using but he but he know, but he

think it's this, that he is this the way he will make a make a

lot of a lot where he can be to the he is the better,

in the grep, at least in the part of him. And you for much

that there procaation there is aggressive to go to go the job

to the show the you think if, if for a case he could get to

him, or you decide in the way to go to go to go to go to

get to get to and then he's because he's been finalized before. He's

not a first time of the M.MA is just that's just this, he proportion

various many the various, many times to get to get a victory.

So, you train all, you proportion to it, a moment certain

and you're looking. So, whether she's she's in there in place, or even

in the clinch and if get to the thing, I'm in I've trained much for this,

I'm very my academy she's very very bad and credience in the background too.

We have many of the athletes of the wrestling also, now,

now, it's to show there and be to show, and

where I will be to me condues to the side of the victory. And you enter in the lot, I'm trying to

do, I want to wince because it's important to guarantee the money in the bolso, or I want to wince and give a spectacle, because it will me put to do with, kind of compensated, that you've got to that you've got to Sarikov there in Abu Dhab, which was a decision

polemic, a lot of people questioned, and then you took the French, the Beno San Dene, that you, porra, enfio, The guy, the squadron of the car, had interrupted the Lutta, you know,

and it was able to get a lot of the big victory in Abu Dhab, but it's like, with all this time parado, it kind of, it's kind of it's like to

make it, you can be because it's important for the bolso, or I want to remember to the world that

P, P, the Elisio, he's back, he will go back as the players of this division there.

Yeah, with the I think the lot, it's resume is just justly this, a pass-a-pass,

what you construct. And in my case, thinking, in this next step, that I

have to do just to get to get to get to the master, at the final of course, is a year

and a time, I'm pretty because I'm not I'm trying many the athletes that are

that are, that are competing in high-nive in my academy. So I

try me maintain the rhythm of try to live that vibe that moment of them

also to I can be in a certain way, in a certain way, in a question psychological,

a question mental. So, I'm going to get the my best, this is my lot more important,

as I always do, and the consequence is to make a good lot, car.

I think that all the rest, all the rest is the consequence but the

principal of all is to be to be to be in really and do a

great lot which is what I pretend do you know, I'm going to give a couple of

there's a whole whole sincerity and then after this is a galgar the

next pass. I have a my image consolidated in being an athlete

that goes to show the I'm on me on I'm

on I'm on the I'm not me on I'm in same

to say the stuff the people to talk Trash talk, etc.

So I consolidated my image on the same of this, and I want to leave her this form. And if this is me credential, obviously, the part financial, where I'm in a proper level, that's

that way, because I think you be integrated and be the more real possible, maintain a character there's a, that's all right be remembered, but

sooner more later, someone will remember of you and will say, oh, the, man, was this guy who, it's this car, who needs to

of this, car, a other athlete have a your profile,

but when he try to want to try to try to you're to get

to make, I'm not the spectators, not in the own in the

event, because the event, he, he's a green or with the so,

so it so, it's to make really a thing, a legado a legado

good, a legado in a guy a guy a man, did the

gave, of your own own your own your team and it was the difference and

it's a time, and we're in a good time for this, even to keep a good

a boleen even, so it's a focus on the mission now and let's show all

the work that we've done doing in the same we're

we're the side extra-camp this lot of this lot of many times alvanca

the people are getting more rapid, there's a profile different, like you said,

like you said, not a guy to provoke, to get shing and so you know, so you know, so you know, this is my

way, I don't me vend, not will move the guy that I do so, but I'm going to do that I'm a

way, the way, the same way, maybe a more than I would be, to be to be able to

be able to this style, that is the most viz, no FECA, no, certainly, with the

Exactly. And, car, the thing is be polemic, you know, you know, you're a journalist,

so, but it generates a polemica also in a car that's a real and that you will be

to ask us the life of the car, and you see that the life of the life is

different, that's not, so it also, but the expectation of the public is always

see that he's fanfran and see that that that nobody can

see the the guy can't get the They're the guys pago to really

see the the guy to be the people of the so it's so I'm I'm in who are really

who tries for me who goes to a job like a love a philosophy of the sport

so that this methodology that I always I've been pregating and it's so just to

say you know, I'm going to see in front to Munela Aze in over that's

he's he's been he's been he's been he's been he's he's looked at he looked at

he conto he's There's someone that you think would you would be a

question for the past one look at your looks like the those are that's

those are that you could have been to be that you're making to have been

to find out of I think 2021 something something and it was a

man who exploded on the last on the the

face the it's it's impossible and I'm possible

I'm you're you're you're you're you're You see someone

who can be a guy that will you'll put to this sub-uped maybe?

Not for the subb but the fight of interest really, that's that's

that's would be the Guna Nelsso and the name Megge there's I think I have

much want to to look and I think would be a kind of

a style for he being a different the proper style and I

have the I think it would be a part a part of one of

one of to be able to do you know, Gunnar Nelson is a victory two victories the last

recently against the Barbarianna and the guy that's the guy that everyone defia

yeah, the guy that is the one of the top 15 division. I think that one

one time, there's a chance of to looker but I had been to look much

really not could get to get this lot but it was the

kind of it was the interest of him also it's a lot good.

So, so if it's one of the two I think would be very much interesting. Maneer,

Camarado, Pazza to be the next one of a process in this preparation. And good

sort, I rebent the car on this Vot. Thank you Gilearm, with a

certainty, car, could have there a maximum of confidence that we can be

very prepared to really to really to really really, that the public, that the public

goes to You go, all the time to go to and trying to get a victory. So it's what I am, it's what I

work, I'm trying to all right, and I'm anxious in my fault, that I know, that's always there's always

sending a message and many times he doesn't know what say, because it repete many times the same

thing, and you get to kind of kind of kind of kind of and it

and it Let's the time to pass to get a moment right, and now this is this is a moment. So it

is to bring up over the time, or bring it really to get there really, and get to do you know, so much thank

for the God, God, and God, and I'm for all right, yeah, three,

we're going to be there today, we're going to be back the next the next interviews are

with Philip and Josh Silverer and they come just a after a Oh, what?

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How is saying this retina final, a few days of saying a porrada, engat, a third victory a second victory in the NFC? The guy, I'm a honor my to be talking with you more once a lot of

I'm very very happy I'm a great preparation for this lot of a great strategy with my

coaches to confrontal him and a guy very experienced a guy perigoso but I'm

very happy I'm I'm ready to go over there to go there represent my team

my family the people who's people who go to represent the people

go to liberate a monster and with with a victory. I imagine that the peso,

I'm sure, it's a much more more than you get a sequence of the final, even more, in less than a

minute, passing by the person of a guy that maybe is one of the guys most of the he's,

he's enfrented in a M.MA, and, and gain of him, I imagine that's

getting t' leving to this lutein' but the responsibility, the difficulty, is always, the focus, but imagine that the

pressure is more more tranquil? In relation to this that you said, I feel really that, that the piece, of that co-brances that I had to do a great performance in the UFC, I'm more, I'm more

less levy, because I signed with an Ultimate, I'd, I'd procurable to do a performance like this, I'm a guy who'd prefer to do lots of impobances, I'd like to not part of my adversaries, not had happened this

in an UFC, and it happened and really really took a great weight of my arms,

but there's more a different there's a way, like I said, a guy

experienced, I have to have to play in the intelligence but I'm prepared and I'm

very much confident there to the but you have the confront of

stilus the guy that's to have to start to

Mr. he is a guy that's he's he's got rodated

he he he has he has he did he did a career

very long there in the circuit Russo there and then the NFL

until get to the UFC what you think you will be this duel with your

style that is a guy that goes to finalize and who got to knockotear the

the Max Grishin is a man a man a man a very experienced

a guy who has a lot and he lot he lot with with

he I'm I'm I need a need a bit intelligent, but not

not fugiting to my best, not to be aggressive, I'm going to be an opportunity, in a moment that I've had an opportunity. And I believe that my differential in this lute is my

velocity and my Jiu-Jitsu. And let me what will happen there, expectativa, I'm the best of the I'm very well prepared. Let's see if

will be some, more knockout, a finalization to have a finalization in the team-mate or for point. It's important I'll go there and

get my third victory in the organization to do a great pass in the in the best of my objectives in the UFC. The most important is a victory

now you're going to to look with intelligence but how you work on a balance the factor of entertainment it's just

to, it's just to get more faster in the category to gain fans is to do

do lots mannors it's to get a people in the top the last the last

the last the whole the guy goes to be in the peso in the person

the people I'd see the the lot of the cloutes the guys are being in a carotieted

there and lots good to assist and this me motiva to continue

and me motivates that I am a style is a style that the

people I'm but in the high level that we compete

we need we need we need to certain a

sort of that you pass a impugnant but you don't perker the same the same

the way to act in a moment certain, you know, to see the opportunity certain and not

not to make to make a opportunity certain or finalize or not codiar and I think that's the most important

in this level of competition that we're now that I'm talking I was in the peace

but you're two, you looked of me and it was exactly in this moment of your career

that you implacored of the victories. This will be to know, of 93 kilos. You see, you see, going to go to the division here?

This division here is that the best of the best way, for more that you have been able to do the FFL, like a piece peser,

the champion in 2018. But I'm not a guy great, I'm a guy that peser in the maximum when I'm off, no maximum 105 kilos.

There are a lot of who I like this person, most of the peses pastas, but I think this is a

disadvantage, The pesos today, they are rapid too, the guys with 120 kilos are super

rapid too, they're doing training events specific to maintain that velocity. And there's a part of the

punch, there, the peso is a piece there's a piece So, so you're So,

it's a quarter of 50 So, so you train in ultimately of the

weight of the amount I'm my first of I'm back in the repaid, I'm

with my company, and I came to the better was down the

$0. It was a category that I always my life whole

after after the PFL and it was a great and it's there's

the results, both and it's done in the middle pesados, but we never

know, I don't know, a lot, a little a little that's not the same, it's a

bad, my planes are not over 93 kilos. You've passed two years as a

person what most you're a lot of the food, with certainly

we're we're just we're the liberty and eat to eat and the

this I think the major the the fact that I feel

that I feel of the people feel of the pesas, it's that's it. I imagine. Living the

life more regrared and but at least pass a lot you can't you can't get a little no, no,

after the after the I can't more and me alimentar so, but you don't know

with the figure out of the piece of there. With sure, implacando this victory,

the third second in a category, in a moment of transition, uh, the new, the new,

champion in January, the troca-to-roca, the Glover is a posentor, many muddance, the Maladin was a category subed the way to be the

way to be going to go going to be the pesos too much, how you see the importance to wince

three-seguided in a moment that's a moment that's much a moment that's much a lot of even certain

of who can be to put a centuron and all right. This, there's a much you said in the

division, this opens to the the voters who are that not are ranked even.

And I believe that more a victory against the I think I think it will be

I'm credence and I just asked I've got to look to a guy ranke but this

lot of Max also does make sense we're going to do this year

last but the lot of a good victory over it and I credenceia to

a lot to a character rankeated a a lot that makes

a thing for me you know I just I'm not not

an athlete so new so I need to do a pass large in the

direction to the other my objectives. And I do I'm in the job. Let's

see what what is going to happen. And I go to get these opportunities

that the UFC put in my hand, I go and I go to

do my work, I'll make all my talent there and with

sure, with much faith in God I I believe that I would

be so you could be the next adversary, gaining this lot in the

day three? I think a guy good, he's a good, he's done until now

recently, but I think it's a good, a matchup there, and I think the

Anthony Smith. I imagine if you could say the name of his name of him. He

in fronted now, he ended up he ended, he's a man, he's a person,

he's, he's, for more that, of two the drop-a-downs who's the top five of the division,

not? Yes, it's a guy very experienced, he's a lot of there's a provourn't

that's a very dangerous, let's go back to see, but I think to ask you and if they'd

me give this this lot of this, it's going to go-upor after he was going to go to

he was, he would be some people will be the last time, he's the respect, but now I see,

just a commentarist, the new generation came to. It's the word. It's not time to peddle these loaves. Vallear,

cabarada, thank you, much for the attention to the same, and success on this reta final of preparation and rebeented

in the question to talk to you. Value, assist the Lutee there, you guys, come on

back up here going to let me be going to get over the other side of there's Josh Silverer

that the day 8 of June in the role of the Jolla of the NFL, for your second Luton to a second week. John, I'm going to a podcast

here, how is the expectative for this second lot after after after the first other adversary? Yeah, that was what we planned on, and it gave all good, thanks a God,

and we'll continue with the same attitude for this second luta, to get in the playoffs, to try to gain this million, for gain

a million For the PFL has this scheme that's the playoff the person who see you

have been used that you're still better than you can't the better the better the

great the place of having the feeling to be able to be winning in the

first round in half round it was got got So I don't

see much video on it but I saw not train much the part of grappling the wrestling

and the wrestling and the jiu-jits so I know, I was nother with this so I

go to get in him to make to make the chance to I gain the lot

I don't try to make a with a when I can when I

can get the lot in the chance and is this type of

this type of you're this type of Delamonte or you you think that can't get to get to gain, but that

the better can't be how you do you do that how you do you I'm going

I'm going to me see as a lot that I don't have to try much

my my style I have to be preoccupied with the things a man

right a shoot out the things things that is normal part

of the but I know my style is just it's the guys, I think

they have to expect to for the a keda or for the, maybe the shoot in

the same that I like, I think there some guys that they try the way they

but they look like, I'll see some videos on it but I don't go to much,

the luta that's on the all, I'm will be get to the moment

to put on the the time. But it will happen I'm put a

I'll put him to work and I will try to end up the Luta to get six points,

I'm going to four points know, whatever way that's the expectation for this year in the

year in the year after the Rattett had various athletes of this division concorrend and it

got that you fronted the Amari and is the same and came over the decision

and it was interrompending the son of the son of the

also also also also out of the Big Brother. How is you see, in general, after the first round of the first time, you think is more than the year ago? How do you have evaluated the category in 2023? The difference, for me, is I, I took many

things, I'm, I'm very much focused on my training. I try to train a way to not feel fear to can't get there. This is what happens in the

Lutta, car, he gets can't because he really he's the

golfes and the technical of the M. Because he is a man

I don't feel so, and the year last I was not

was a shape as how I can be in so this year

the great difference will be I am a

lot more more more more more more When I entered there?

What you did you? It was just train the part physical or had to move the head in some

some sort of my head my head I'm very, I'm very, I treat this thing like my life

because I had since era of a child, so I don't have a psychological so,

there are parts wrong, there's parts good, but all it's always all, but everything

was, but the thing was the thing was more a little of 22 years

23, I just I'm going to do I'm not so old, but I

do I do you do this much time since I'm when I

am a more more physical for my body maloo a

maloation I I'm running more I'm I'm tatr

as like a a a job man sometimes

I was more noviourn, a athlete of college in the wrestling. So I could do the things rather when. But now I'm trying the

things very much quiet, dwinded well. You know, the athlete a head-boa. How is your initial, how was your initial in the competition,

having the father as the leader of one of the major activities of the world? Imagine that exist this this pressure for you to continue the same you

say, no, you have an option to do you want to do have a vias there's

long you jogging from the infancy to the world of the world yeah.

So, so, everyone feel, he always always me question,

you know, if the father, if he forced you, know, he forced you,

he, he, my father, he is a guy, he is a He trained various athletes

before I He knows He knows He's coach But I have I have various Immons and I just

I just I just have a little wrestling But the Nobody did much Jiu-Jitz

My dad not did this to anyone I I always I always I always

I was I'm I'm because I'm I I I'd

I'd I'd I'd God because there many people

in life of who know what they want to do they're

when they're a child I don't know I just I want I want to

do you know I'm like a old old yeah it's always it's I want to

know and now now now now now today is a

sport growing for car people are doing the

person is doing the life the career of this so

so I thank so I just that that

this this this note, in my head, like, oh, this is your

parada, this is your life. Have you some moment in your life that you

imagine doing that something? So when my mom me said, I said, I'm saying,

please, don't do this M. M. Tent to do this other thing,

I thought maybe I could be a doctor in the hospital, a doctor, a person.

But, but the fact, I don't very very well with with a

SANG, like, but in the moment of the I'm doing the same, but

I'm doing like, like, surgery, no, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not,

you know? You're, you're, because the medical, the medical, he don't care,

the patient to be to be to make a bad, yeah, yeah. It,

even after after I, I, took a lot, I, took a shoot in

a the host of the guys, I think, oh, oh, I'm, oh, caramba, I'll just get, I'm, I just come, oh, I, oh,

discop, you know, I'm, I'm, this is part of the sport, you know, but I'm not a guy, so, you know,

so never will be like the B.J.P., that's the no, I'll love you, no, you never will

be doing this. Until when I won't do a million, I don't want to do you, saying, you're,

talking, the million, that's the at the final of the time of the you imagine what you

do you do you do you do with this check in the box there there's a thing that

I'm in my but I say always I'd I'd give over for the

people who me people who still still be still to get here

and continue this this this paste of my my

my I have a, I have a lot of family in Brazil, you know, I'd like to see them, and help them a little. I'd see if things, it's difficult, sometimes and when, but this is the only thing that I think in the hour, is just to help people who,

you know, the people who, since I was a kiddance, or view I in high school, in the college, you know, just do back a little, a million is a good, it can help

help a lot of people, and also try to get up with the money, invests,

invests, things good, and learn to learn more the way the world, more money,

more money, more problem, no, so I'm so, God, I have my father,

I have my mind, that, she is, she's right too, is my father,

he's, he's, he's, he's, my side to help with this,

he's he's more experience than I. You're know, he's only,

but you see doing what your father does he do you do the other

the ATT or then to work at the main the

team as a coach yeah I I'm I I just

I know I don't no no no I'm

a athlete there but I am I'm so

I'm very Jujitsu and then I went to college, this is the top of top of wrestling, here. I passed for this type of phase. Now,

I have a good mixture of grappling, and my father goes to use it when he will when he will show a specific, with a lotator, individual, a thing, he calls me really to help

when I have time. Now, I don't have much time, because PFL, but I always I'm there help under because I understand

the guys I'm I'm growing in this and also I have Portuguese in English that

the principal the Brazilian but I do everybody the Russians I I've worked

much with the Russians the Americans there also I'm I'm

I can see working working as as a head coach or coach We'll

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