MMA Fighting - Trocação Franca | Taila Santos quer revanche com Valentina Shevchenko

Episode Date: June 15, 2022

Taila Santos chegou perto de quebrar a banca no UFC 275, dando a Valentina Shevchenko sua luta mais dura como peso-mosca na Singapura. De volta ao Brasil, a lutadora conversou com o Trocação Franca e disse que acredita ter vencido ao menos três rounds, explicou como a cabeçada mudou a luta, e disse que aceitaria enfrentar a campeã novamente após a cirurgia no rosto. Na sessão Fight Week, o podcast bateu um papo com Maria Oliveira, a penetra da festa da Anitta, além de Gregory Rodrigues, Raush Manfio e Natan Schulte. O melhor do MMA brasileiro no Trocação Franca, toda quarta-feira, com o jornalista Guilherme Cruz e convidados. Taila Santos came close to pulling off a major upset at UFC 275, giving Valentina Shevchenko her toughest fight ever at flyweight in Singapore. Back to her native Brazil, Santos spoke to Trocação Franca about her belief that she won at least three rounds, how the clash of heads changed the fight, whether she’s down to running it back after undergoing surgery, and more. In the Fight Week segment of the show, we talk to UFC fighters Maria Oliveira and Gregory Rodrigues and PFL lightweights Raush Manfio and Natan Schulte. Listen to Trocação Franca with Guilherme Cruz every Wednesday to hear from the biggest names on the hottest topics in the Brazilian combat sports world. Follow Guilherme Cruz @Guicruzzz Subscribe: http://goo.gl/dYpsgH Check out our full video catalog: http://goo.gl/u8VvLi Visit our playlists: http://goo.gl/eFhsvM Like MMAF on Facebook: http://goo.gl/uhdg7Z Follow on Twitter: http://goo.gl/nOATUI Read More: http://www.mmafighting.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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the M.M.A. Fighting in Brazil, Guillermo! Cruz! Hello, I'm a fourth-first episode of the podcast Trocaation Franca.

A sua house, M.MA, Nessimera, this month, of Tyler Santos, who beat on the trave to do the story

on the B.C. 275, in the last Saturday, on Singapore, with an show show about the intimidator

champion of the Mochers, Valentina Tiew Chivichel. All right, Talia, welcome to podcast. All right. All right,

all right, we're doing, we're doing, we're doing, we're talking about, the time, you know, the,

you know, the first, I'm about this, how I'm, how I, I'm, I'm going to

talk about, you, unfortunately, suffered a fracture in the roste, for the cause of the caressada, how is it with a lot of

how are you? How are you have been in these these these days for you? So, yeah,

in the third round, it happened there was there, there was a fracture on the osine

orbital, so I will expect to be this incha to be doing the surgery,

but it's very very quite I'm still still getting the old was

being being taking all the medications certain all the

inchats, are out-roch, and it's a poitin'clock. And it's a lot of normal, but all the same. You've never to re-ve the

last few days since the day, that's the time, that was the time in the Singapore for the you've got to

go to the water in? I've seen long after the the last of the last I was in the hospital,

and the rest of the time that I had I was in the hospital, for you to go to the hospital, 7.40 at night. And then I came in a hotel there and was passing a lute. Then I saw, so, but I still assist there with the sunkechance. Not I didn't sit there to do that analysis, so. This time you saw that?

What was the impression that you passed, watching the first time there? Of course, there's the sunkeent there, probably irritated with, when not having the arm's up, right? What you thought, the other? I got it.

It was what I saw. I was really very satisfied of the but I got to be very satisfied

with what I saw that I know that there many points to analyze, uh, and badges but I

did immediate I got to I was satisfied. I watched by the first did you did the first did you

did you know in your capacity that she had been done? With the relation to what you

thought you that you thought? in general of the lot, so I don't say that I should have

been seen if I'd have beencid I'd have a centuron here, but what important,

I'm satisfied with my result, I entered there and I did all of me, and it

had more to do it and it was a little bit of the loss, so I'm also me

with a with the eye with the but, but, I'm I'm sure,

I'm sure, and I think that that she was my only unique opportunity, like I said

I'm new, and I'm sure that there's much a good to be. When it's end up the last time,

you went to talk with your quarters, he went to get to the official. You were that he

would have announced your victory? Look, I was there waiting for my name, sure,

I've lute well, I'm there was in the fundion, there, the corner, uh,

and, uh, speaking, uh, sit, there's, uh, with a Tyler Santos.

But not was this, the name Dito, but it's good, I'm I'm in

a bit of and you know, I said, I know was my only opportunity, so I'm

a new thing, I'm gonna go to the next. In the moment you the only you've

heard of the end of each of every end of every you think you

got what's you know, I think until the third round

there, and that was where I was where only, I was entire, but I

still, I still a little another one of the round, I could end to get her in a quarter

round, in the last that I came, I came down a quarter rounds, I did her,

so I think, well, so I think the first were my, like, I didn't even,

I didn't, to analyze the other those, the first for you, and the fourth too,

and the fourth, too, the fourth more or the, yeah, in the

In fact, I have to see because now just talking like, I'm not, I'm going at the

lot, I was going just what happened, I'm not not not analyzing.

So, but in the fourth round, I could get down too, yeah,

I could get a little controlling, but long she did, but it's

the sentiment is that the head involuntary, she, but the

sentiment is that that that that's that it moved completely the Luther.

No, with certain it's a problem about when when I

went to turn to the round, I was ended up the round, and I was looking

to the ground and to the thing, I didn't have looked to the tel-o was super

enched and I just sent that was inshated and it was looking to the

and to the ground and I could see to be the normal and when

when I went to the front to I don't see a-favored. I thought, what I'm going to do? How is I goopier her now? I'm not to see her. And if I'm fechre, she'll be, she'll go ahead. She'll be able to see why. This eye will be awl. So I'm afraid. Then I took to do it, because he was finished, but even as soon, it was horrible to get, even though, even though, I'm looking

so with this eye, she'll be, she'll be. I don't know where to bathe, so it was. It's a Thank you. I'm going to pass by your head, like, to stop the state

that you were? No, I would not not be able, but I was, I think I thought, what I'm

what I'm going to do, like I'm where I did, I was where I was trying to

try to help, even as it was I'm so, I'm thinking,

I'm thinking, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, what I'm

what I'm what I'm do you want to do. The Valentina has this aura of, a excellent lot of a lot of a lot of,

but she's she's a, she's a, she's a fact that you, know, when you were Azaral and

she was the favorite, after having passed the five rounds with her and, moved the

image that you had of her, how is you know, what you know, what you know, what you think of the Valentina

now, compared to what you actually of her before to pass Yeah, for me it It's a lot of

Like you said, like you said, like you said, this monster, this bitch Papal. So, after I

saw, I've seen, I'm, she's, she's, she's a , like, she's a

very, she's very, she's intelligent, but not a normal. So I felt like

much confidence, you know, not sent me the goalpes of those, like,

so, I'm supernaturais as, so, of force and, I even the

people super I thought about and I don't know I can't get to get to get to I'm not

I'm going to do you know what I'm about this woman so I'm so I'm able to put me

the kids, I could goate and I did all right so it so it's

much it's much about her about it about what I just thought so much

you you you ever she ever she was a difficulty more

a lot but was yeah yeah yeah yeah I'd, even I thought,

I thought, I thought, I know, I go so, I go through a catarine, yeah, I can't put,

I can't be able to do this game, it's been very difficult, know, for more if I goce, a quackure

that I do it, it's super difficult, I can't put it, and it was a contrary,

it was, it was very easy, to get, to the costs to be, to get, to control,

so, it was, I thought, I, it was, it was, it's, it's,

And it was very much trapella. What? What? What? What? To get to finalize her that he matalore? Oh, he felto.

Ah, minimum thing. But she also, it was hard there, was going to be getting to get to get to

that shealted that she was me trappaliening and she was not, she would be there, she would be

a man with a man with the hour in the hot kind of the time, I'm trying

to make pass, or some position, but it's it's a it's just the podcast,

we don't don't know the image that we're talking about for the video, and you're

just to think it's just to think it's made to do or not related to the Luta?

No, so there there's a party here that's a little bit of a new

and I'm a little something, and this is just to believe my her name

my mom that's I said to have been she had painted there This was the difference,

that's the difference, that's, you went to know, and went to before you went to go to try and you're wrong? It's right. For sure. It's just, the end uproarthea's not, of course, you know, and then, you're going to be able to get a shaltrow, you know, to make a process of surgery and stuff. Income it, you know, it's, it's case a Michatette that's

the glory to get the Lauren Murphy in the next the next what you think you will happen

with you think the you're going to the next after you after you did it be a

back the point in the end of the right I don't know I'm going now I

do this process that I have to do this part to continue here care of

the food to help to help to help to help the

recovery to make a surgery that not it's

a a thing little and we'll see what the night will decide there also try to

try to make the more rapid possible to have prepared and to show what the that I'm doing to show

for what I think I know that I know that I'm sure I want to show more even so I

want to be prepared and I'm looking what the people also the people who have

some idea of after after you operate you will be done X, semas or

months to to get to work or for for a while after we're no, now,

now, now, now, just to focus on the recuperation here, that also

important, yeah, to be a time, then we're going to be this recuperation, and let's see

what will see that's going to be the same, the first, we know, we know, the F.C.

can't happen the idea, is just, in front, the President a Valentina in the next

a lot or you want to do you want to do a little, to try to pick a rhythm before, you know, no? No, if the UFC would have to be, for me, it would be a great, because no have no, I don't have why to do another, if I've got, I never had to do you

never had to fight with five rounds, so I went direct to a prova of a foe, right? Direct for a lot of five rounds, with the best of the world, with a champion, so I've just been tested, there a fog, then no there's a lot of

so if it's for me, that's a way, that's it's a experience that you have been with her this is a

real, this is a little bit of this way, she doesn't get to make a lot of experience, and everything

I thought about her, I could see more in the the lute, that's where I could

really have a problem real, yeah, and how it is the body, the body,

the force of physical, the mental, see that no, no, it's just simply

more a lot so, so, so it's going to be better more, very much

to get this nervousism that we have to immediate at the first time, like, the

life, the ralentina, this, that, the centuron, that's, that's, that I

don't want to feel more, I'm going to be more more tranquil. So, to this

time, not singapur, and long to know. Yeah. No, because, oh, voyage, it's just to finish. If you have to be sure, if you have to seecha,

if you actually mark a Valentina against Misha Taitch, not consider, clearly that Misha Taitch can be the next month, do you think the Misha has a game of Valentina, or you think not,

that the Valentina, the style of the two there, she'll say as a champion? Look, I think that the Valentina even comes coming as a champion,

because the Misha Tate, the other meninas, they enter with this receree of the Valentin,

so she ended up upon the game of her she does she do those and it's

and it's and the men's not react and she doesn't get her but I can't reverted

the credit of her that she does in the part of abdominal there, I can't

see to get to those she's, she does super that super the men's, so I don't say, it's a lot of

a lot of d'u-dura, but if the Misha will do, after this lute, I can't, make a strategy a good, to continue, to keep a calm and tranquil, that is the principal, it could be it, but I create difficult.

What, that's Ale, thank you, thank you, before your time, after a long voyage, trying to rest-combe, thank you for conversation with us, and I'm the other, for that the U.S. I'm what I'm sorry. For the FC mark, of this

a lot, because it was an excellent performance and have to do you to do. Uh-huh. Two. We're just. Vale. I'd like I'd like I'd like. And in session, Fat Week,

for interviews more short and focused specifically in the Lutas of the next days, I'll converses with Maria Olivera, the penitra at the Fesda of Anita, who in front the Gloria DiPaulae in the FC of Austin, in Texas. Who also Luta Saga and

conversed with Gregory Robocop, who bates to meet with Julian Markes, of the Tourva that Lute on the Thursday for the NFL

I got in a bit of Rous Malfe and Natanzhute champions champions of previous that's

veterans of FC, Olivierian Obammercier and Marcyon the interview the interview soon

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So I'm, I'm well. It was a camp very different, because I never had been a camp with an accompaniment that I'm having. And I don't

so me prepared well I'm ready, for this lute. And, and I'm going to go back. I'm going to get to bea

here, I prefer to look here. Because I just me familiarized. I don't know how much who talks, like with

an event with the public which is a good but I like I'm I'm going to do to

do not but it's a more for me and I'm not I'm focused in a way I'm

focused on it's a different the good that's a good that's two hours just

for a time because it can't be that we're in the perka to be a perka

to be very of The other adversary, no, she's coming in the Brazil, so she'll have a process major,

there's a way to climat with the time, so you just have a lot of a advantage there. Uh-huh.

So, she's coming from the Brazil, she's just there's a in Aalche, but it's a can't

, you know, I remember when I when I lute in Japan, the, the voyage was a sack,

because it is in the cut of the cost of the It's horrible. Being very sincere, for

some people, prejudic, a little, I, as I'm not a cord of weight, for me, it's a little

more of good. But a guy says, that prejudic this thing about this thing about the style,

you've had your strategy, you've got a Tavata Ritch and it got a decision, how it was

the gloryin that came to Vittoria, you think that's the kind of you help more,

a the casement that is more that's the way do you think that will be this duel against her?

So, it's just like she, I'm like, I'm going to get the Maria. This era

no exists more, the time, the time all, it's time all, it's a time too, it's a

time too. I think that Gloria will want to be to goate to the ground,

so, so, but if she she want to put to cap to the chowen,

it's good to try to I think it's a lot good, because it's a lot

because it's a lot of it's a good, she's a lot of a lot of you know, and work

in Vegas and to be in this structure, how is it has been this

did you as a person too? Now, it moved all, because in Brazil,

I was I was in Niteroy and my family in St. John

of Meritin But all the final of I'd go to my family so I'd say it final of a time I'd bebe,

I don't I'd bebe more yeah, I'd bebba, I'd, and I'd totally different you know

here I'm an accompaniment with a medical I have an accompaniment with a physiotherapist you know, I have a structure

here in PIA totally different than I had in Brazil I used to be I'm used to this Adelaide of the athletes

It's all It's totally It's It's dream It's Dorming right It's It's

It's all I don't I'd I'd A night of I It's really And I

I've learned That's Not just When you You're On the Tatami To train

The Your It's You You know You can't You're You're

You're You're You're You're You're You're So, this does totally

total difference for me. Supplement, today, the right, that I don't supplemented, I train no, I'm more, I have,

I do know well, you know, it's all, it's all a lot, it's all a lot of

a athlete, I have, I don't have, before, I was, I was, I was,

I was gonna be, and I, if I, I, if I, I'm, I'm,

I, I, go, there in in the same I go and I do you know I'm

a physiotherapy I'm doing a whole time in my time in my time in my time

there's a day that I did a thing in my my leg she was to see

what was what was to be to be to be to be to be to be

to be to be what I'm doing and do other thing and then

it's so much and the the the head the your

your know you know you you just it's a bit better.

As you know, you start and think where your career has been to be this vision more professional before you have excellent opportunity

in the career before you were there, you know, and then you picked the A Sakura that's excellent lotator,

and it's been the contender against the marina that we see today where is the marina in the door of a

dispute of a sturt of a centuron if you have this what you have this would you would be there, where the Marina is, like,

and perhaps, yeah, to dispute a centuron, the F.C.? Yes, if I had this head, in fact, in fact, even in my last lute, it would, I, I, I, I, I , I, I think, I'm, I'm

not, I did, I'm not a lot of a ruin, but if I don't had with this this, I'd, even, would be totally different, you know, I'm always, I always,

I always was a athlete that I never was I never was a force I always

never had talent being the talent the talent so it's so it's not just

you're good of Muay Thai but you not want to or you tryna

or you want to or you want to train but but not

not from the tatam you just you're just is for much

time, like, today I work my head, I'm a little my body, the work,

the most psychological for me, not just get there, and do you do a lot no,

now. And then it goes to a way, like, a voyage, like, when I

came to Vegas, it, to look with the marina, I was, I was,

I was, I was, a year, and then, made, my name for a contender,

and they said, you want, you want, you like, oh, no,

Mesh, I don't want to, I'm really a lot, when he said, I'm in Vegas I want,

like, it was like, it was it's not it, I mean, it's obvious, to look,

but more the voyage, I was, I'd like, I'd admire a marina, and this

all, and then, and then, uh, Maria, a marina not you'd think,

like, like, like, she, but she, but, but, like,

the way, it was, If I had the head that I had before I didn't not come just for because of the

voyage, a month of a year I'm in I don't I don't love much to say

today I want to do this in the octagon that you will see see the if I

had this before I went to Risen what I did it happened it's

it's interesting it's I'm not I'm looking with a she had a Rana she and I

the three the worst, like, the worst the J.P. And then I lute with her, and I got in her.

And I went to Brazil, saying, po, she got the Sakura, Sakura, no, she put her

back the time, the first time I had gained a money, I was going to say, I didn't train

how I trained from the first time for the lot, it's, I'm, she,

she, she, she, the other other woman put her back to You know, like, I don't have a

head of a athlete, like, I didn't have a good, I don't have a company, I don't have a company, the first voyage, when you're not when you say from a place,

from the periphery, the favel, and you can't, like, a passport, you can't be able to, it's all new in your head,

you know, it was all, so, it was, so, very, very, very,

I thought, I thought, a, the, like, I was, to go to travel. I've been a first lute in Japan,

I didn't have this to travel. So I trained a lot of time. I remember that was a camp brought just for me.

But then we relaxeded. We thought, you go to the final with the rena. Like, if no, it's not

to go to the general. She was champion of GP, she got a a athlete really good. But it would another lute also,

that would be another lute, it's a It's interesting you say you go to Japan and gained a lot, you did not, but you know,

because now your life moved justly for because of a first of a living in Vegas and all, it's been a most of the most

the most of the world, furrando the festival of her, and the life moved, por, looking at the Instagram,

gained more 100,000 in one some days, how it was going to live this turbilion

of new day, thinking of the carl-l- the Brazil entire entire who wants to know who's who's going to Twitter

because I was talking to I'm going to say that I'm to think I'm asking to do nothing I'm doing like, you know, like, put it on Twitter, like, penetra of Anita and I put it, I was doing

gargallied, so, on the Twitter, on today, and seeing as parades, like, everything, too, that I don't imagine

I, I remember that when I wanted to get to, I, I'd like, so, I'd like, so, my,

my, my, I'd like, me, and I'd like, my profile, and the my friends, I'll see what,

and she's what, she posted, my arroba, was more than 100,000 followers, and it's all new for me.

It's just me helped today. I have to, I have I have to, I have to, how is it

says, botar the life of a life of digital influence. And it gets so,

I'm going to say, I'm saying, because it's something I'm always and I can't

continue conciliate, I'm Athleta and Digital Influenance. Like, Semona of Lunt, I don't know much to be, today, I don't know much to be putting all over what I'm going to do.

And the people ask, the guy, people, call on the direct, you know, you have to do this. You're totally different. It's all new for me. And it's very cool. It's a lotleta

that got gained this notoriety for cause of a night of a festival. And not, like, you know, was your objective, be this,

and it got to get into the sport after the sport. Yeah. very strong, no. Yes, this, like,

as people ask, the people want to see, they're going to see, and I'm saying, my God, my God,

my God, my God, I'm going to be very new. And there's a guy, I'm going to see on the Instagram.

My God, she's never you see? Where I was going to Free Fire, and the man said,

say, I'm saying, you know, to call your Instagram, to say, I don't know my WhatsApp

no, but if if you're me, but if you're you're low, I'm saying, I'm looking

your Instagram, Anita, you see? My God, that's what, and it's a story, everyone. Then, the man, you know, you don't know the story of her, no? I said, I said, and I'm a story, that's a leotory, yeah? People are leattory, and it's weird. And it's interesting, it's all.

And how this moved to your life? Out of this explosion, there, the number of followers and stuff, question of money, so it's a question of money, so you've got to have more visibility, patrocine, what did

in your life, in the other? other the fact of the UFC have you marked a lot days before, like it happened it was a week, take here, take a lot.

Take a lot. Go to be a lot. Go to look, this, this thing, of the UFC. But, so, a lot of

money, I don't gain, but I gained more visibility. I, I, I, I,

I, I, I'm, so, I think, I'm, so, you do,

you do, you do, a part of, you know, but, But in question, like, of money, gran,

gran, grand, and the money, but mark a Luta, I gained followers, this is good for the visibility

of the OFC too, for me. And then I don't work much in my Instagram, because, I don't know after the Lutta,

and I, then I don't get a focus, so, but after my Instagram, the people have a,

a assessor, that she makes in my Instagram, she will do do everything, uh, content, to me post-

and I I'd go hurry more after the patrocino because I don't down the point of you, imagine I I'm, I'm a great chance if you

enter in a lot now, I'm with a music of her or not. I have a music for a music. My own. My son. But here in the team, there's a regra. There's a regra, you know, you just can't enter with a music of the team. You don't know

you, you don't have to choose your music. Yeah, I don't want to enter with her. But I I wanted, I wanted. The people of the FECT even came her to go to my go. I don't know. I don't know. She's very preoccupated, she will start a tourne

I think now, I think maybe. Who's she's she'll end up the way

the next a came to know, but we're going to let's let's go let's be

more than more than she'll not come back but I'm going to make a person

about, she she's a poor, she's a poor, yeah, but I see that

she gave that she she did with her when she when she went to she was to

the hotel with her I saw she she arumando I She'll be, she making, she was with her,

to go to the show, I went to the hotel with her. So, like, she gave an opportunity to be a part of her. So I don't want to be that person chata,

that's all the hour mandating a message. Because it's chatt. You're, like, every hour, sending a lot of messages, you know,

I know, I know, I know, I know, I'm, like, I'm, like,

but, but, but, but, maybe, we can't, we can't, I'm sure,

and, to answer, and, I'll, , and, accept the music of her to enter. Ah, it would be difficult, man.

It's the third interview that I do that, that the guy asks. That's, for me, it's obvious, right? You're going to be able to do. You know, but it's a good. It would be a very cool.

And I'd enter, like to the first of her that I most most I most liked, which was Show of the Powerosa, because it's at all the Women, the Show of the Women's There's Show of Powerers. This Bobia, yeah,

throw to the epilino, yeah, Vera, Maria, Olivera, Penetra. And just for I was looking at your Instagram and I read a post a lot of 2017

that you had had had to have gotten to and in the comment of the post you wrote

you said you're there's my messages so who can't know now the penet of Anita the Anita

will be noted this post will be noted by the BV BV convidated, this that will be now in the

recor, the island, I was going to have to be confinated in the end of this month, so it's

not it was not, because there's a lot, but I just think the reality are you

don't of the old because the people who call are practically the same so,

so the those papers they're who can't who's many, I think it's so in

the bed, B, B, Chama, Maria. That's a bigot. Who's the BBB of 2023 will have

a Maria there. Me not. But if they were hashtag on Twitter, penetra on the BB

Oh, it was. You're going to enter to the babybb too. Yeah

thought? So, you're talking about an ascension there in the F.

Peking the lot in the time over, vencending and

over unfortunately in the last little took a

man a about a parted there. How is this a lot of your head, going to a little to be of a derrota, in a crescent, and having to this thing to get, and get a lot to come. So, Guilla, in my head,

I don't perjury that war. I've been resolved for me, I've beence the lute, independent of the result of what the aptos did, but for me, for a great a lot, a lot, I knew, that's a big difficult, for me, so for him

but not was a little bit I gave a pass to no, in the fact I think

I think I gave a more stabilised on a patamar where I was to be to create

something more excellent in so there there things that happens I always

say that my my mom will be in Victor that she never lot in life but

I think the the derot is part of the process of the learning, not just as an athlete,

but for everything we have to learn with the frustrations and go to go ahead I'm going to see the look, I respect

a lot, I'm a guy dourism, have a man, he's a man and the goodest of a lot, like

you said, it was a lot was a lot very, very parely, and very assyada, but I

think the Apos did a wrong in the result. But I just passed the ball

the ball and the ball and the guy shuntar to put in the head, my head is

a good bad by the the lot that I did, and the three rounds

there, car, I think was one of the one of a lot of a lot

really getting the contendend and they don't a moral to the

container but I got it was it was a an good experience, like, and will contribute very much for my next fight.

What was the aprendisade that was the derrata, injustice in your opinion? To get to kill, right? I don't let her have to have to kill. I'm talking. But the apprenticeship that I've seen, I'm going to be, I'm going to be more, and at every moment, I believe that we know, we know, we know our potential, we know how we can get.

I see, I mean, in this lute, the point I have, no, I'm a better in my part in-peer, obviously, there's many of the things there that have to make, like, one of the things, was to make more mix, not,

to make more the part of the, the transitions, get, uh, to, be a little more strategic in the sense of the car. The luta, I always have this with me,

the lute are three rounds. are three rounds of five minutes so I have 15 minutes if not for a spood of the centuron that are five so I have 15 minutes to do everything to do to put everything to put up to

and what would happen before this will be a bonus so I have focused about this part me control more more into, look,

have a vision different in the case because for the people there in many people but the people are

going to be able to you're going to you're going to you're not seeing you're not seeing, you're not

at least you're not you're not but I'm you're going to but I need to be always always

you're always a moment of the moment to move there, work a bit more the

work more trying to try to try to work more so make this mix

and put this into the I'm I'm with this mentality

I'm there, 100% man. Independent. In my head, my man, I have to, now I have to

knockoutial, I have to, no, my mom, I've passed the first the first time. I've been more

five minutes to work. Passed. There's more five minutes to work on a third. So,

so be a more calculistic there, more more, to hear a more

the corners. We gave a, I gave a justada with my corners, with Daniel,

Mends, that I always I love with me, that's instructions of their are very important for me. And we're always always to play

for less, never to play for more. And I'm free sufficient to understand and say, man, this round was very was very

part of the part of probably we're not probably we're getting I have a frieze sufficient to say oh, be so, then, then let's go there

go back the strategy right to the second round for that we won't get or or knock out of the knockoutail or finalize

this was a One of the points that I've worked very much in my mind, in this pre-ce camp, for this and for this fight, and, and I'm ready to give more a great pass

in my career. You feel you felt that in the last last one, this sense of urgency, to not count, I think I gained these two main rounds

here and I don't need to do so, I'm just doing so, let's go, let's see, let's go, let's get to a

porrada and try to get to get every second of the I always I'm always I'm going to never be the

manned, I'm dependent, I never will be the guy who will be the but but at the

same time that you know, at the time that I need to me impose always,

as I like I I'm trying so I'm so I'm at the same time I'm not

I don't need to I'm I need I'm just it's a little here, to par with my

adversary, but I'm going to always go to go ahead. This is indisputable. I'm always always to find an

opportunity to end the first in the first, it's not the second, if not the second, it's a my style, so it's my

form of lot. But, always, car, procurating to rotar, intelligent, and never

never to never never a my mind at the other

at least to make emotion control I remember that a friend my

one of the last he said you're a a robot programmed to go

and be a robot no no no he's

programmed to do a something he's he go

and he go and he he was he there

emotion so so I I always, along my career, was one of the things that I worked very much in my mind. I said,

I said, car, controlling my emotions, not be with emotion into the Kade. The more the emotional, the emotional he is activated

in the Kade, better because you are seeing everything, you're in a form logic of the things, not in a form

emotional, emotional, emotional, of the things. So, I believe that, I believe that

Every, every path I do, I'm I'm getting be the best athlete, be the best fighter. And how is this robot wins the luda on Saturday? He's like,

you came from the LFA, passed by the contender, came to the FC, now he's been to two victories, the two for finalization. How is the Robocop wins, you know? So, man,

he, he, the Marks is a guy very hard, the, I had seen a lot, I don't know, that he he was in 2015, I've got with a

friend who also was in the field horse a muttarder the field, he'll go out of field, and he's two,

two good victories in the in the UFC, the Cpteneuve, in the ultimate but he's still a year

without, and this, and this distance, I believe that prejudiced to any the athlete,

you need, you need, so it's one of the things that can be me favorer in this

lot, he has pressure, but I think he never looked with a guy, he never

got to a guy who's a lot of a lot of my striking have better has been better than

my part on the ground in the facta of jiugett so I have all

the battle to both in the time and I go to go back the

I believe he don't he not he not he not will be he not have been

there I mean, I have more a garrava than he. But the Robocov is ready, man. It's ready to do a great fight and say with a victory on Saturday. So, Halls, finished the lute of the last time of return to the PFL,

more a great challenge, a guy that was the UFC, that's being in ballad of three victories in the PFL. What you thought of this casement of Stills? How is you're going to this next battle?

I, I liked, I I like the adversary, I actually, I think he is the guy that can give more problem for me in a tournament,

you know? But even despite of this, despite I think he is the part strategy, we're going to

say, he's the guy that can cause a problem for me, I'm going for the challenge,

because I think, passing for him now, the other guys are more strikers. So,

then the point where I go, where I talk the rhythm of the and analyzing the last one of the battle I talked about with Natan,

and I was gonna where he was where he was attacking more than he was because as a same school then Natal just no,

but when he me shot here, it's just like it's got to attack on this side, because the fact

in Natal just I've been done to talk certain to adapt to my game because I have a strategy different

too many of Natu So I was so I'm a good. I'm a guy that I think a a athlete very good. And I think it's a great victory. And I'm going to

go to the knockout again, right, Glenn? You've got to the worst in terms of a style of you for you? Or you

passed to find this after he won't the Natan? No, no, when I read the Chave,

I said, who are the guys who are the guys who have a background that good of takedowns, and that

and that can be in comodar in a question strategic, it's because the quater basically

control the round, the guy can't be over the one way, it's having a

advantage in the round and so then I said there's a man, but we we look a

final there, we have always had always all, we've been also,

there's a background strong of judo and then I'm now I'm going

with him and the other guys I've I saw that they were more strikers. So I said,

the other don't have much secret in the preparation. The other is go and do do your game, and then

with him I have to do the first the anti-joke to then then I'm to imprimed

the rhythm. So, have to have always to take the care to be doing that

he not get to get to get to just put on the ground, you know,

that he does well he does have this type of because he does very well he does very

so he does very so we have to train first to the specific to do that then do you do my job to striker

we know we know the sport engobes all the sports that engobes but it is less legal

you train for a guy who you can't you ever the guy that's I'm saying I'm trying

to play poor Rack and go back to go back in the knockout and to think

that all he will try to try to do you to put it to back back and you to hold it to get to get to the camp in

more difficult because I then I trained with wrestlers better than I and the guys putting to down to

get in the fall and so the down the the deads with more more violence

in the defense so it's a campin that you disgast more physically and in the pfel a camp

that you disgast, even more physically not, because you're like, you start from one other, you're going to go to another, right? So, you have to have to do the training in a way intelligent, train one a v-sport in the day.

So you have to adapt to this, to not enter in overtrain. And I think for who's, to, a guy who can roll out, and want to get in the point, it's never, but in my part, I'm going to, if he wants

to embollah, so, go embolary, and it'll go to my kinsch, Moitai. If I, if I'm going, I'll I'm going to I'm prepared

I'm going to I think I'm better than I think I'm better than I'm putting up to get to be able to walk out of

so I'm going to I'm going to get up so I'm so I'm not going to do that my game

for cause of the game of he's he's canhote but I I've got to look

with a can't so I'm going to the drill just was in day to walk

with a car that the who uses the base I post So I'm very content, I I've got the Cazement of the Luta,

neither I don't have a lot but this is a lot that I think it's like, I'm going to I've got

more confidence in the campings to the to fight with the strikers because to fight with striker is just

be affiated and recuperated physically and do my game with him to be always be able to

try to try to get to get to get to gain the points so that is a

a thing we have to take to take care. And this mental can't be able much, you said, you know, that's a

energy to put to be able to if you want to think, porre, I've got to get him that I

wanted to get him, and not not get to get him, so you can't keeper him. That's the my plan,

not, frustra him so, he should enter, he went, and got, got,

got, and I'm I just got a little bit of the force for to put it to back, the guy just

got up to get a and the way to get to get a very quick so we're so we use

this in favor so you know when you can see the last one was a goal that it defined

there there there some pressure in my part it felt but when

I'm I'm I'm I'm to finish to so I'm so I

think this this lot has more he may give me more more breaches

than the the the fight against the Dom Med, who was done in the distance, not entered, he was chutting, no risked nothing of wrestler,

so I think that this luta, he will come more to get more more, so I'll have more opportunities

to determine the what was with Domed. And you know, the way you win, it's influenced

not, not just to wincer, for the question of for the playoff and how you think you

that you pass by Olivier Abar Messe, You think this this is a lot for the case? You know,

you know, I think J. the point? Or I think he's no, I think I pared him before.

I think he before, but I'm being very sincere, as I'm being a point, I'm in the other,

with the exception of Anthony Pett's, if, for example, if I got the first,

the second round, I don't me acelerer this to try to try to try to try to

try to if I get the first two rounds, I prefer to gain a lot in those points and guarantee this playoff, you know? Because I'm in this position, I have four points.

So, a victory on those points, me guarantee. Because then I'm with seven. And with seven points, I have the my place in the playoffs guaranteed. But it's difficult to get the first, gain the second, and the third I'll be able to rest. You know, because you know, how it's

the judge, right? Exactly. Exactly. Exactly. You know, because I don't think of the world. Exactly. Exactly. But let's say, if it were, spanked him the two first round in the third round I'm a zone

to a zone to get a goal to I'm a really good, I'm a counter-gopiolored. So I don't

risked a third round to have gained a first and a second to try to try to finish the

because a victory, we got, we got, we've got, we need to we need to be sure

this round. So I would, I would secure the round, without hypocrisy to guarantee

the playoffs, no, So, because of this format of the tournament, in other occasion, I always would try to the knockout because, po, it's what

it's the way to and getting a lottowing, and getting a lot more to get a lot more, I'm getting, I'm a lot of contundate, want to me

to see, the proper PFL said now that will be able some events of paper-view, they're with plans there to

do some events in Europe, so it's been being a lot of and I'm I want to be in the middle of this way. So, to be in a man to be a man,

I have to be a man who's kind of, I'm very good by the public, uh, I think obviously, vowing from

and all, I think this plan that you said, put two rounds, in the third, I'm going to figure a little bit to

not risk, and I think, and I think, it's a, way, a form of you think, so,

if I was, spanky him for two rounds, I'm going to try doing, and I'm doing doing it's right, not,

that's not, that's not, exactly, exactly, You can never take the foot, but it's that kind of not say

it's going to like the Vandlerleys you know, that can take a sense without some without,

you know, so it's not going to get risk, when you have some something in the hand

there, because of the playoffs, now if not if not had a format playoff,

the guy will always playoff, to try to try to try to try

to but, but I know, the tournament is something really yeah

like, like, for to get a million dollars there is a

situation for a for a comfort, a comfort of a comfort of financial of many years, it's many, many, many,

many, many, many, times more than the money of the money, to pay,

so I'm, so I'm to do this prema and do to do to do all the

time, so I'm spanked the round, we'll guarantee these playoffs there, and we

want to make, with security, so, so, so, when the guy comes,

then you don't see, then you don't come to up. Then you have to

put to turn to and then we're going to do that's just to be sure this format different

that's in different that the PSFR is planning of the event of previews of the

other the playoffs and there have some there's you'd would you would have

the desire to you have the never not have not been not been

the because of the the casamento of the times that you could

have been I would be I would would would be a revenge

contend the Pets, especially if it's in this format of pay-perville because I

think the guy vending too he, the name of he, man, he's not,

the guy, the guy is looking, so I gave a feedback a very positive the first

victory. And I think the Jeremy Stephans also he's been a sequence great,

derotas, and I think he has a name, so, I think would be

a lot for me because he I know after the the second round to terminate. Because he comes into to be

open-thurt-on, and it's where I attack very in the middle. So these two names, are names that, one, that I'd

like I'd like to have a revenge with me, and Zempetts, and the Djeram Stephens, because, despite of a

sequence of a derrota, that never never got to get a guy that who's coming in a

lot of the role, because no, in the vision of the media perhaps it

doesn't not you make the BAC, to do the first The proper ultimate luther he did a mini-event, here from the PFL.

And I think it's a guy that I don't counten. I told him. I said, I was going to ask him before, to say, oh, I'm going to Jeremy Stevens. And then they're married with Olivia Albin. I know what is the criteria that they've to do to do you know, but, anyway,

these two names, I think would be an excellent, lutees. They were the same of the opposite, right, the Jeremy, Sieve. I was a trocador, I put to a poxed by, and then let me, let's do it the contrary. Yeah, exactly, exactly. But I just are

Pronged. How was the preparation for this duel with Marcy Enrelde on the 6th-dayer? So, the preparation was very good because we've been

from a camp yeah, this first the first thing we did, so basically I just kept controlling the

and there, more or less a month before four seven, I trained being strong, not in the

last four, but I I picked four weeks and trained force for the and just focused in this

strategy, in the the lot with Marcy and it was very good, was a preparation good,

I'm used I'm used to like, I'm used to like, one, after the one,

I think it will be a, thing, it's a thing, it's a parted

a one from the last last the two, against the other, but the

but the last year was one after, it was two months after, so the rhythm, can be able to

your favor? I think yes, because the rhythm of a lot of a lot of some people

not influence you but I think that it can't a little so I think a year parted

that is a little a little uny for him. How is you think

in case the style of those two because the masterald is a

guy that has a style of a particular because he obviously

is a total of M.A. Well, experienced, he's been for great events, but he has in the game of Jiu-Gi-Sysse in a

particular character of his is the guy that's the lot more focused in using the grappling of him.

So I think he is a guy an adversary very hard because I just I've in my

first battle with him I saw he had had evolved the box of his but

But, even so, I think it's a one of a lot that I still will continue me to start on my strike and in my

grappling, in the Lutte that I'm not using in my last time, in my last my last

an adversary good, a guy has a jihitsu good, I think I still I also

to postar in this Luton in my grappling, using the more, more aggressive,

and start a little before this the you're a guy who's a who's a guy who never never did much a rewance

in a career you know I never never did any one never really it's a first first time that's a

good you help in a lot in a general you enter in a guy

you know you study much you know but you don't know how it is a

conflict of style but in the case of Basinod you have this experience

with him you past you after you know it did you you did you

to you prepare for him? So, because one of the things is that I've seen there, how he agh in the cage, in that battle with me, I felt in the first round

that he came very hard, he posted well in the box, in the combination, and it worked well, he got well

that he got the second and the third round I saw that he came up so it was a poste I opposed in this camp

to start a lot, to start a first round much more accelerated than than the normal for me

case I don't finalize any of he, I, at least gain a a lot

in a decision without controversies and, uh and, it's a

a lot important for you to guarantee the presence in the playoff because

there was the last a division divided against the Olivier Albamb

SME so so, so much more the point spout, better to

to be to bring for this vaguer in the next phase, right? Exactly. It's a

lot that, I have to try to do all to finalize the knockoutia before the final of the

final of the last of the third round, so it independent of if it's going to

be a knockout or a finalization, but I want to terminate

in the first round, uh, it just to to finish, if you don't me

can't me think, the Marcy Held he just did part of America Top Team, I think he

he not he's not he's part, you have been in a academy or was

in a different in the time that you trained, that you did a time, I

took to do, I'm going to know, in this period he trained he, he went,

I know, I know, he did a one-g- -one- to get much time, he didn't,

it, to be there, but he did a camp for a lot, and I remember that I trained with him, I did sparring with him, so, it was a lot that was a lot that made a lot that made a lot more than I trained with him, I already, I knew how he was

in the training, so I've had experience to train with him, and to do a sparrie, and to do you, so I, now, I'm, now, I'm, you, have the experience of the sparring, have the experience of having three rounds with him,

for the trainers of America Top Team, that, you, who, they've been with him, you know, doing a class and all,

so, so it's circled to information privileged to be this lute there. Exactly.

Sure, that's a vial because it exists for him, he also he's been in with you, so,

there's a lot of, but you see, you know, a more in this lot.

Yeah, even for because of my last lot, the last lot, I did,

so, in my opinion, I, I gained a but that even the judge being in a different a victory and giving a

victory to my adversary, for Olivier, I think that I think I I think that I'm more confident even with the

even with the I think I I think that I I even I even gave that confidence to to go to this better than

you're in this Luton at this Lutin'n at the first round that is to do your friend Rausch gained the Olivia also and you

both our special procliotic. Exactly. In chaves different, advancing to the playoff. It would be the

best scenario possible, yeah. A we can be here in the edition of this week, thanks to

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