MMA Fighting - Trocação Franca | Técnico Avisa: Chimaev Pode Finalizar Durinho

Episode Date: March 23, 2022

Uma semana após receber Gilbert Durinho, o Trocação Franca agora conversa com o brasileiro que treina o bicho-papão Khamzat Chimaev. Faixa-preta de jiu-jitsu, Alan Finfou analisa o duelo do UFC 273 e avisa: Chimaev não tem medo do chão de Durinho, e pode finalizar. Finfou lembra o início da carreira de Chimaev, a parceria com Darren Till e possíveis treinos com Conor McGregor, e muito mais. O podcast conversa, ainda, com o jornalista Carlos Antunes da Ag. Fight, repercutindo a novela contratual entre UFC e Combate, parceria que pode acabar no fim de 2022, e como isso afetaria o esporte no país. O melhor do MMA brasileiro no Trocação Franca, toda quarta-feira, com o jornalista Guilherme Cruz e convidados. A week after chatting with Gilbert Burns, Trocação Franca now welcomes the man behind Khamzat Chimaev’s offensive grappling: Jiu-jitsu coach Alan Finfou. The grappling specialist breaks down UFC 273 and says Chimaev not only isn’t afraid of Burns’ BJJ, he can also submit him. Finfou also looks back at the beginning of Chimaev’s career and his recent partnership with Darren Till, as well as potentially working with Conor McGregor and more. Then, Brazilian journalist Carlos Antunes of Ag. Fight stops by to discuss the ramifications of the possible end of the UFC-Combate partnership by the end of the year. Listen to Trocação Franca with Guilherme Cruz every Wednesday to hear from the biggest names on the hottest topics in the Brazilian combat sports world. Follow Guilherme Cruz @Guicruzzz Subscribe: http://goo.gl/dYpsgH Check out our full video catalog: http://goo.gl/u8VvLi Visit our playlists: http://goo.gl/eFhsvM Like MMAF on Facebook: http://goo.gl/uhdg7Z Follow on Twitter: http://goo.gl/nOATUI Read More: http://www.mmafighting.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

You're listening to the Vox Media Podcast Network. Senoras and Seniors, in command of the podcast, Trocaation Franca, and representing the M.M.A. Fighting in Brazil, Guillermo! Hello, lo, no,

a friend of Luda, well, the 251 episode of the podcast, Trocaation Franca, a sua case over the media, in this immense polar sphere. I'm Gailam Kruis,

correspondent of the site American, M.M. Faireer in Brazil, and I'm going this quarter Friday in the company

of Alan Finfo the gymit of the bichipo Ranzaki Maev phenomenon of the FECD Fribeau in the day 9th

but I'm going to make a talk to a carlos Antunus, journalist of the jeffas and labrador human of

social. All right good, I'm pleasure, talking with you more a way talking to you more a podcast

to talk some franca I'm at your so I'm there's a lot, there's much thing

to talk for we to talk. In this day, I think, how I'm with a moral, car, Carlos Anthony is at my

disposition. I think, I think, I'm going to be good be good. You're not good,

you're awesome. That's human, wonderful. So, my friend, this last time,

we've had a FC in London, yeah, the UFC, finally, finally, we're doing

a event in England, after a time, he had to canceler, editions

traditional that happens in March in in Europe, finally did a event

for there, It was very many, various local, finalizations, the event that in the paper was designed, with a desire, with a desire, with a desire, with the desire, and, boy, it did it super-certain, man, it was, it was, the night perfect,

but, before to talk of this event, I'd want to talk to you about the issue that I did a reportage that was on the day a night, that came down a lot of the same of surprise, about the future of the UFC in the Brazil, more specifically,

the rights of transmission, the UFC is in this novel with the group with a global with a combat

of negotiation of contract because it ends up the end of the end of the accord that was a conclusion,

if the UFC will renewing another way, I'm doing with some the FCC just is

the opportunity to not have a global as a partner to transmission and launch

the fight in the WhitePesa in Brazil, which is the application the service is the Netflix of the F.C. there's transmit in preliminaries,

some things transmit in various other events, and there's the plan the plan B of the UFC to launch a fight pass in the

Brazil, but they're still nine months for the year to end up, there's a conversation, but for the

UFC just is studying this possibility. You can't work with MMI for a much time. We're

we're used to have the UFC and the combat in relation close to two decades. How is you see this possibility of not terms

more the UFC in the canal combat? The people would be accustomed to assist the UFC in other platform? How is you see this possibility

of the future of the sport here in Brazil? Yeah, this is your reportage, I became too surprised

I, I didn't I thought I was I was saying that the UFC was sigging a contract

with the global, but I I think that was a question quite protocolar, a new thing, and the answer and the answer

would say naturally but you said for what you said, for what you have pured, the business not so simple so, and me

surprised a globe in this moment that the UFC is with a Brazilian again in Alta, we have

champions, the Davison, Charles, the Glover, we have a man, we've we're much

the people getting to the new generation, so the global, not, to do not I don't know if we're doing to

do not say to do you know, to renovate a contract with the UFC me surprised. I don't know how it would because we know the mentality of the Brazilian is very very long as well

at the world, people don't see, not know what's not who's not even that's getting some things but there's a life out of

me, let me let's say, we're let's say we're we've been we've got we're talking more the first of the Formula One

the cell of the globe, it's very very other things. But I don't

see if the UFC also a kind of a question of a global if you don't want to be

going to be my platform here in Brazil and the life will continue normally not, not will

not make much a lot of a future for FCC. I think the global is that the group global

because the Canal Combat has been their assinants is a phone

to the group global there there's there's there's there's

all it's all schematic now will have to sign a fight

pass, a other thing, but I hope to resolve this I think to the Benda

MMA, let me say so, for the we don't influence it much thing,

you know from the M.M. Fight, I work in a different story, but I

think he in the global does a more, it's always a platform that he pass in

the programs of the Reddglobo the site ofcom has much access, there a

portal of global.com who always have notices. I don't know how

it would be in the we're in, we know, we know, when I know, when I'm

not going to give so affinco these championships, but I hope the final,

I'm going to the NFL the UFC is going to have been a lot, and having to have

a interest more of the public, I will see a global, will have

a back, not, not will be the never, but it's not

the end the world, but I think would would would be

a a for the UFC, because for the most that the Globe and the TV, they don't transmit more than the way they're

on the past, there's the sport spectacular that makes reportages, there's a little paint there a thing, a

interview, on the journal national, less old than than it has been a great lot, the global Techeer,

the instructor siltural, there's a special about the story of his, so if they were,

they're going to have all you'll be, for example, how it was in the first F. Rio, that was the

transmission of the TV, and not the Global. The combat also did you,

but the Globo finged it did it, the event was in the New Year and various

activities happening, and the global, it was not going to nothing, if it was

a year of New January, in the year, on the we're doing

we're doing we're doing the grandmobile, the competition of Bocha, and not

would say a 10 seconds of the FC. So I think if the end of the end of the

if they're not renovated I think the FC will be not 100% but but great

part of the space that has today in the group global internet I don't

know how it's the site if they're going to look other events

if the combat will try get a better a lot the RISing

to get other the right to other the internet if you would they would

they'd have a cany-o mediaeatic, which is a global, the Formula One you mentioned, yeah, the time time was the first time

of the formula one was really the time, the world's all the time, if the globe did a time, it's

a transition, and it's a time, the final of the Chinese Brazilians over two years in

so the global, I don't know, as they're not, they don't don't know

there, we can't think, we can't make a question, for the FC,

it's more important than to the global, to have the UFC. I concord with you, I think the UFC just is a lot, I think, enforcing, the word would say, but insisting

in a negotiation, because you know what the power of the globe in the Brazil, you know, you know, that's the major platform, that everyone see, that everyone knows, that generates a lot for the sports that are in the globe,

to the modalities are in the globe, because if it was, maybe, a other emissor, a other platform, maybe you had had to be in arms like,

I'll launch my league and fight and say I'm the world. But he's the importance of the globe for this

that's the negotiation and it's after the end of the end the end of the end of the end we'll be

until the year, we're going to be the final of the world compared to the years and now

we've been four centurons of Brazil Amanda Nunes we've been we've been

five, who can't have been the request the revenge there's the defending the title in May, in June.

Let me see how will be the next months. But this shows that no numbers, too. We said, you said, you said, the Brazilian, goes to have a champion, got to Tosier for a champion and and we all. We had, in a time, four centurons,

too, it was a year-in-a, the M.A. The Annassoceva was exploding, the Cigano, Joseo, the rey of the Rue, the Renambarang,

inspired, so we had this really the number of the centuron, but four, now, he didn't get even to be equal to to be able to

to the time of those four of the past even that Amanda the energy conquist then it's

a single the dominion of the UFC the now he's he don't have the

before the even with the force of the global this power

that's the world the website would have to

work marketing divulgation of a way it's the

site of the website not an website informative

he's not the channel of YouTube for example there

has poor content produced proper. There's there, the DMA has a video

of their of comments and and so, but interviews of the content of

produced here in the public and it doesn't it. So,

if you have to invest much more in accessoria, in communication,

because today, the site, the site of the channel combat,

the portal of global. com, divulgando, po, will have the UFC Saba,

the UFC Saba, if they they're going to they're not going to get the bullia.

The ball of the world will always know that the F.C of the Saturday is a total

lot with a lot but there this is a global helping to do it to be

the world tente the sport to be more of niche than it is a vitrine

Globo will be this is you're going and this thing you

said you said you said you There's a lot of the UFC, that people who don't even imagine that exists, and the combat, it will show, it,

to have a time real, the transmission, happens. Without a globe, the UFC would have to have to work much to to give us to

give us and I think it was a good moment of the UFC trying to form these new idols here in Brazil, like you said,

in that era, Anderson Silva was a man Renomado, too, he was a Joseoaldo, also,

and was a guy a guy are known. They're charismatic, that's people, that's the time

people, and we're there's a guy that's a good, that's a good that's a story

incredible, the Davison, the Glover, Amanda is more reserved than the other three, but also

have a time, it's a moment, to the WFC, to find this new idols, but it's it's not much

the force, like you said, the set should be a little large, the channel of YouTube

also, that thing, so it's it's a The UFC You know, you know, a market gigante.

So, not to end to end up a market Brazilian. And there have a lot lot of,

there's an event here every year when not the end of the year, will have to have to

work, to work to work to be in this space all the whole to do it.

If I I'm not come to a global, I'm not a quarter of a transmission,

even that not be even that's for all the events, but with a band, with a

RETTB that has already, probably the band's that's very very strong,

that's a thing with sport, it's always very strong for sport, or a record to do, they pass a,

they pass preliminary, and the fight pass, because there have a great partner of media

to help to help, because, it's Brazil, the Brazil, not, the United, the Canada,

access the internet here is very pretty bit even, and we're saying, if you're

if you're going to fight pass, the fund has to have internet. The guy, if,

if, if, if I'll be, have more smartphone in the country than than the television, but it's not you know,

you know, you know, you're seeing on the internet with you're going to see in your 3G you're going to be a event,

it's not going to be the other whole package of the whole packet of data, so all, all, it's all it's been to be

a country continental, and there's much fan, and no, and no, and no, and I'm what I've got

the, I've got, the, the values not were faredes, because it's all very very embryoaned, and much

I do it. But the idea is if for roll to fight-pess is not not because if it's for car, it's not it doesn't. It's better than it. It's not. It's not. It doesn't. You go to get a bout of fight-past the price, with the price girored in relation

to the dollar. You're fudied, you're going to go back? The combat, no, it's not, the combat, no, it's about $70, because not going to pay. Why, you're going to pay $100? In this crisis that's the first thing, you're cut. Poth, the crisis, man, the inflation,

gasoline, $10,000, I need I need to cut a thing I'm going to cut out of the food? I'm going to

do you're going to I'm going to I'm going to do you know what you're going to not renovate but it's nine months

interesting for the front, right? Yes, this fight-pice has been something attractive to be a

kind of not be a good thing too too much it's a symbolical but it's

a price but it's like Netflix there yeah 30 ryes for me 30

20 So the first five months you You pay 15 Then the other you pay 30 Say it's like 25 Something like a

For the guy I was saying I'll invest you You'll say Poh, so So four events For four events There will make a

Cours per Five Rial every Every Rack Every year per It's a legal Because if it's It's a car Oh, no, forget.

Ah, why you sell in the combat? I'm going to do you. I'm going to get to the money. I'm going to get to get to other

thing. It's a work very well-to-do, and it's been too not a job. It's a good time for you to think a way to see a

way to do you do this year to do you know, it's a good but I'm going to wait to go ahead to the next capitals,

but in- while this, we'll talk about what happens in October, no, the last week an event in London

that had a participation in a Brazilian in chuta yeah, there was

a Luana Dred and he ended up for a wedding to get into the event that's a point,

for me, for me, for me, for me for me, perfect, better at times, better than I the day of

the morning, it's not at the morning, at 2. of the time, I'm there's a rest of the

time to have the rest of all to but, but this event came came about

so if it was an area normal, you don't don't know because the

the the way the cloutes were very good. Coming to the battle of the final against the Alexandre Volkov, the Russo, Volkov, who was the possibility of he not could enter in the country for the cause of the war, the Reynodian Union, secured very, impede, the entry of the to try, you could have done the fight, but it would have

been the better never, never never had because no he's not

the first round against the turn of the what you thought of this

look that was, for me was the carib that was there to

show that was a guy that was a new generation

to the person so yeah I'm sure I'm

was so I'm this test of the last he's a

guy who He came in the FC, he had three luts, four luts, all the knockout, finalization, and he said, poe, this man is good,

we'll see, now a test of a foeco, and he's a new generation total, and he's got a vocob who's an guy who's experienced,

but not not not in that phase of other hour, but it's a man experienced even so, a man, and the guy

great, and the aspirin, he didn't try for nothing, the talent of this man, both in the

part in in the part in the end, and he, finalized he, he took to

the Nadov, he finished a carriek N'A do not, the night he's got maddenoct he's a

man, yeah, he's out of this froyer yeah, yeah, just be putting it on the

other patamah I think it's interesting for this category here, especially on the piece of pesty

people, he's, I think, can't, you're, I think, there's, I think,

there's, there's, there's, to, put, do, a, though,

do, in a, and a Invicto, very good in all the whole that's going to do it.

I've got to another. I think more a test-z-in- another to do top-five, top-three, I'll pick a little bit of

a lot of and if you have to do the end-n-n-you- to get the man-n-en-a-o- who you know, that's a-o-o-lop

the country in British, so, but more a champion in a champion in-gles there, peas-pested even

that the category more glamorous, it's interesting. For this the Dana, just was looking with a carine for this man. He's trying with a carine of that he knows,

Guy, will try with a carine, not a guy very complicated, we'll see he will be going to build this career of Aspen and the mano.

And the mano is very talented, not even to negar that he's a good, and he's a guy who goes to finalize a

luta, this is important to make, that's a lot, don't think that's a lot of something to make that kind of

to see the next chapter of this man because he, he is very he really he makes very

Frank Meir, because he has a The game of a finalisade, a guy that not who doesn't pay opportunity, but he's a version

a better of the French Mir. He is more agile in-pe in-pe, the guy, in the procaation of him is very

good, I think he, I'm really, I'm gonna the winner of the FCC and this tabod now,

the Curris Blades and then take, then he'll put the two who can wince, disposed citurant

torsing to be the Tornasping to see the CURis B' he's ingano, no, no more of God,

it's just two sacos but one we're going we're going to put up

a lot of it's a yeah, it's a thing that's a person I think the guy that's

I think was a man, he's a man who's a man he's in my chit

my chit also also he's now he's there's a person to be a he's been

he's finally finally because he was that you finally you say that's

that's in the top of that's a Inganu, no, there's aversible for Miotit, then it was a trilogy Miotit in Gourmetre, that

thing that didn't say, no, and not d'all. Now, finally, we've got the options, there's an Aispern, have been down-cauls, there's there, there's a lot of course, we don't know. I'm just a little bit of a year.

Citonite, you know, could be a lot of thing interesting, if John Jones gets a lot of militit of the life, but finally we're options, and options good, options new,

and to do some new, and to do some passed for surgery, we don't know when he will go to

do you know about it's a lot of a little I'm going to get a little bit of the final he's a lot of

this manned he's a phenomenon too, but he's a man yeah, he's oh,

he's redenting in the FECC for me for me the Ruck he's just turning a sack

of a car because he he's a lot really good he got of many he got

of many people he just just are talking the last last last LUT yeah

he he is that he's a guy who's he's showing the officer of the office he's over, I'm going

but I'm going but he got him he got him a lot of he went to the same back he's

a matter of heftar the manhachev pah finalized no, no, get the

down to get him more than a pah tannes he he gets a concept

with Dana White but he's he per he has he's he's he's

part of this part of the carre of Dunhooker yeah he's a man interesting.

Oh, I remember the battle that he did with a year a one year a one after, two,

I think two years. And now he's just talk a time, it's just a pole, it's a porter,

not it's a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a hard-do to get the Arnold Allen,

which is a guy who is invicto, not per but he's time, I'm too in the

time, I'm too in the Peas-Pen-N- again, he's been in this category, but

unfortunately, to expect the to be the Rooker is more, because I was in this experience of the Peasupenda, but I don't know if he will

have to have to get a little a lot of the people more to get a more infancy to get a

new and gain because he just is taking a guy and he has to take some pasts to get a

confidence and return to and then maybe more in front with a confidence in the car

with these people can be able to because it's difficult. The level is discrepant the R R Raker

not can be able the guys of the the same, the the person, and the person is the same thing.

He did the first of the future, he's not a f***ing that he's not a franco to get a

man, do you get a frowninging, then you'll come back up to get a little bit more or a promise or a guy

in top 15 there, man the chance of the guy the chance of he'll start and then he'll be more

way, it will come after someone will be going to but I'm you're not you're in

not you're in not. And the Donoitte He's even said He likes to We do a force of bar When the guys Who's the guys

He's going to No, he says What he says to what He goes He's got to pay Heard, He said, But I don't

If this passion The care Dereca, but But he knows How does it How much But he's But he's

He's a guy He's so Fauder too So he's He's always Yeah, He's a guy More accessible

To he Yeah He's a For the For the FC Yeah To him To end up

That's intelligent, no. It's true. And another great promise of Europe that won't be in this event, was the Peri Pimmers, that more once

once, you know, a victory legal, in terms of plastic, finalized, no, finalized, and showed that is a veraq, that he took a

sustro against Vendrami, he, he took a shus in a lot of a pankation, did a, knock out of,

the eye, regal, but then I got to be back, he broke the cost, and finalized, but you

you, the great hype that's the Peri Pimble but you think you know,

the guy, car, not a fran, there's a talent of him in but

we're going to not, not, not, not, not, not,

not, not, not, I'm so that's playing a little

a pymble, because be able, he's a guy, he's a talent,

a man, a man, he says, he says, but he just picked the frangue

the friend the man, he experience, but not's in a level top,

and he took a Suss with with two guys that don't on a level top. So, if we put a guy

this, if you're not, a guy that's, a guy that's, you can't put a quarter of the ranking. I think the

UFC will work with calm, this man, too, will, it will, do a sequence

of lots more accessible, for he form a cartel backana, for he can't be

to wince some to win, some we've seen, Almaty also there's

we know how the UFC works with the other the UFC seems like kind of kind of

kind of people are talking about about the bad news they're not the new blacker now

need need it's a need to it's a new corner right yeah he's just it's a

man already now is the man he is the guy who he's more he's more more talented

he's this hype but I'm calm with a pen pen man

a man English, there's a market great, but I think to go as a little bit, not this thing, ah, it's a new Magrego, a guy that will pass the car in everyone, no, no, I think to

play a lot of people, got two guys disconquited, almost per die, lost, but he was, he was, you know, called, but he was a lot of strata for this man, I think,

maybe, I think, more experience, more canst, but for in quite, calma. And this, Rodrigo Vargas, that he got,

nothing, no, no, no, the guy, can talk, the guy, he has, the, he,

like, we'll see, let's go we're going to let's go the fourth great great

of the European in this event was the Elia Topura and he said that conscientently, intelligently,

the Perriperer just said that he's going to be there to find him because, you know, that's the porraq

the burrack is a car, Elia Topura that did a excellent lot with J.E.

But he also had to show the question, because took a bickuda in the

car, almost He gave a walk on the knockouty. An knockout incredible and it's a knockout

the year, the other after the last month a moly mechain has got a knockout fantastic also with a cutto-gillade

a rodata that's a assurbed a lot of the year, but this Toppure is another guy who's

doing a barule but this this generation of Europe that's surging there is interesting yeah

the topura is impressive Yeah, even. Until the hour of the event, I don't have even when I was the Lutory, and then I

could see a more calm, but he's a loter very good to see to look at because he's a man who's not a fear

to be aggressive, gost to definitely, he's got to make a three victories to knockout, and knockout, it

not is Takedo, nocote, batel, boom, lona, it's a lot, and it's a guy, it's a good

to be a good to be a category, also that's a moment, now, today have some those people

but see this new generation, he's a new man, I think 25 years, if I'm four, 25 years.

So, it's a guy who not a not just the Pere Pimler, but I think to look to carey, not.

I think the topure, also got to try to the English, was maligned, I'm a man, I'm gonna the guy,

the guy, he's not the car, the guy, talk, you're Pupure, you know, put to more

two, three Lutas I don't dovido nothing of the kind of a pegat of the accretive to get to

the clasions, because it's another market interesting, the guy is a Spanish, a guy different, but

it's a lot of a lotto I really to know, I even I really didn't know this event, but then I

took there, I listened and I could see and I could see just to just to

just to just to just to keep to the last You're very much of your Conpartying your With your

Convertent, with the Quartet European there, who you, how do you think you think that this quartet

that's, you can beel in UFC? You think for a while just the Tom Asp not,

is a point to not be able to but I think in the future of these four there, how

the citurons go to Europe? Yeah, it was a good question Yeah, I think the Tom Aspon

is a guy that more he comes like you're talking about the centuron, we see he gained more one, two because he's

a guy, a test alto, that's the Vokov. The Topuria, the Arnold Allen and even got some guys

interesting, but not the level that the Aspon got the Barry Pinnett and didn't even close

of this, but I think the Aschchon has passed a house in this guy now, yeah,

it's more better, I think, can't be this guy this guy on the general,

the general, the person, the person, the the people, Topura, and Peasupena, or Arnold Allen, Peasopena, too.

So I think these guys can I think these two of Peasopena, I see them pretty. I think the Aspon is in front, but I'm not going to

get up until the Topura and in front on Arnold Allen. But this style of the NFL, because this style of these meno of the lot is impressive

so, he can get some of the show that he does, despite the Arnold Arnold has done on knockout but the Toppura can't

call the attention to the guy's this guy is he maintained this he might be this guy

I think the Asp not in the front, but I see the Toppura and Arnold Allen Allen

Allen and the yeah I think the Perry Pughnish he, to me he not will get

to get to get back he not he will get a guy he will

take a because he is a very hype but he got done two chust in FC

there have to start to get to be close to the top 15

if the FC not I'm going to to go to the end of the he will be in front of the way he'll die of and the hype

morris in the guy a lot of a lottador fantastic there's always there's always that he's always he'll get a petelect

you can't then complicate but when you're a man normal that he doesn't he has a good chance to win I think he has

I'll ask you I'll call him I'll call him I'll call him I'm over the topure because I think the guy is the guy's

more so I think I see on him I'm going to suburbia man he's until the

year he's he's foot central to continue on this suburb he's not maybe he's but he's

he can't go ahead and then I'm gonna get to be able to yeah I think the question of he's over

a guy more more of a level more more than he's more experience more lute NFC a guy more

more rodate so I think you can help me, and I think you're saying, and I don't know, that's not even the future of Ingunu, you know,

you're not going to do the UFC, you're what he will do you do that's not going to do, I think it's that it's been

a break to the guy to get a and to get a division much equitored and there's not a guy

much asim of the other obviously if if you're going to go and if you did you know if you're

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our audience, are the interview exclusive with Alan Finfo, and value, Carlins. Thank you. Thank you. The other side of the line, we have Alan Finfo,

the trainerer of Jitsu, responsible for to let us, we're going to be in the good news, Drin, on the day 9th of year. Well, welcome to you. Thank you. Thank you for the opportunity. We're here.

We're here now in Las Vegas, doing the final of the preparation. And, all right of God. If God, if we want to get, we'll get this victory. It's a lot of guarded by the public the Brazilian. You, as a lot of the opposite,

trying trying to make with the Kimaev will be a fact of the first of the time. How is it?

How is it? How is it started with the origin Chechina, he is Russian, but he's a

place, where you live a time doing a lot of Jujits? When you you've

this phenomenon that is the Kimaev how is when he came out of your

academy for the first? No, then he he came to a Swester

with a refugee in a time that the Russia was in war with with the

family his family he grew to there and from he was when he

had trained the rest the tradition of his family of his

family of his family of his family from the wrestling

and when he when he went to when he went to he

was he was in the were training, wrestling there, competing. And it came a hour that

no time that no more, he, what he had to a wrestler, in the he said,

he wanted he wanted to go back, he was trying something new. One day he went to Stockholm, to visit,

because we had some other Chetian and Dagestan in the Distanese there in the academy,

in the academy, training, he went a day to visit and He was he, he was active.

And then he was like a child, dislobred with the guy was. And he did a train there, but he was able exactly nothing. We were doing

a training more specific so we had started a train in a situation specific. He didn't show the speciality of him.

He was not started a training in pen in that he, so he passed with many problems, he was

finalized many times. And long after this day, when he

asked he asked him to come to school, a we could train him, we said

he said he said he he went to the city of his three, four days after he

came to get in the same, with a sack of supermarket and she had

to work, and he said to be to be going to the academy.

It was that he started to train. In the first I I thought

that was a fire the guy came to know, and he wants to show

so I'm very much determination of him in the time of that's going to

that's going to continue and doing doing doing with training

of kron, training sand, training monta training training box

that he he was he he had had It's going to contagioning the people, entoging a

more to to work. And then appeared the opportunity for he started to start a old old.

Then all the his lute he, he, he was able to wince with a finalization

or with a knockout technical. Inclusive, he always he always had been the

different there, with guys that had had gained the the tournament European

World of the NBA Armador and he so, he's got to reprimed the ritesco of him to show

much a superior superiority in the last little then we got to put him to

start a professional and the same thing continues happening and that motivation

of his was just augmenting so he was cativable more the people

showing that really really the opportunity to The same the Cool Brave, it was the organization that he participated

before the UFC. He was able to many, so, durissues in this organization, and until the continuity of the FC.

So, I confess that things for him happened to happen, but for a guy who was, he was in

a car that had a day all, was doing four hours per day, I think that the

things happened in the moment right, because he was planting too, that he was going to start to get to get,

so the future of his future to be very very close. It was like, it was always saying he was this phenomenon,

that he, did it, make a a barro, he was, he was talking, the first day of his,

not was a good day, because he didn't, he can do the specialities he,

he was, he, he, he was, he was, he was, he was, he,

and even so, no, vote then, that we train you? No, because he,

from the first he always showed a guy very competitive. When he noticed that he not was good

in a area, what the majority of other guys is to avoid that area at any cost.

He not. He was frustrated and he would learn that area the maximum possible

to that he could be prove that he also that he did with the

part of Greppler. He, he, he, he was to train more,

with certain he got to get him he was getting to get into he was adapting the information

to the biotip of his or connect some, some of the he just had already

in the part of the rest when he went to the the he,

he, he started he surprised to be everybody. Today, with certain

he is one one of the best guys that he's been there's there's there's

I'm a champion Worldial Nogu training the majority of him he was

he was so it turned the my my trainer the

my partner of so the guy that I can

train well and get prepared to compete to

keep this after this career that he did he did

in brave not out of the FC, to conquests the Vaga in the FC, you surprised at least the way he atropelow the four adversaries

that he enfrented on the UFC until today? Or was exactly what you previed that would be it to get into the FC, this phenomenon would continue passing the position

to the world? Carta, the dream of his never was to be to be a FC and be a champion versus. But he

knew that that he I still was a little distant from the he was he was

he started he was he could he could get to he could to work to come to

him in MNAM Amado in the grave when he appeared he was

he was he was he was he was and then he happened that was that

opportunity he motivated he motivated he he's where he

was much but he's much more more more more possible to

to get he And so, if the guy, before to be in the F.

Yeah, had all that was after the after the DEC, it had much more.

Because after the he started to have a respald, he started to get to get a

money, so he had been before, the way, he had been a more

more easy, so he could be more to the training to the

training to the preparation. So, I confess that I I was

I'd be able to get very very good in the FC but many of the

he's a guy with a guy with a one single with a whole

until today have done more of 200 300 socos and have suffered

one or two to be to wince so with total

dominance and all the opponents he he now he

now I I think that there's a good in the FCC the guy to enter

an office, he needs to have a baggage, he needs to have experience, he needs to have been many times

to be there to be there. So, no there's, so, there's, that's,

who's, who's, not being, for the first in the time in the thing. There,

there's that have a job very superior or the other, yes, because the

strategy that each one trasa to to be to be front to each

the opponent. But people think the opponents that they've confronted that they

were considered Rougainis, I think is wrong. Because he put a car at the time.

He worked. He went to and got he could have to get to get rid of

the time. So, what most that's me surprised was the

way that he was the way he didn't He didn't feel that back of that, oh,

I'm going to in the FC, I'm looking on the world, that's that he was doing

on the television. A day, or Ruggie, they were the opponents of his. And this

was what most me impressed the opportunity that he he didn't he didn't

not, he didn't any type of pressure over him. It did because he would be

more. So, So, by the performance, I don't, I don't I'm, I don't,

I'm, I don't, I'm just I'm sure, I'm just that's the part mental of him,

to have been, not, not, not, not absorbed any of pressure,

of the , there's, there are, there's many good, but when when you get

in the F.C., at times the guys the two, to come to

And the Ramos, not. Since the first time, when he came, he's got to impose the game of his, he could, do you, to make the duties

to happen that he wanted. It was then, it was that my surprise really happened. And he showed this force mental

too, to lead with the adversities out of October, because in the October, he didn't he didn't

he didn't have even to lead with more diversity, but the side of out, he when he

had COVID, he came to say he could be to be a posentar that he

would be those assurtsundated and he conspying the same and so how it

was that those times, years, he did not with this disease and maybe

to be about, how it was to help him to know

moments so difficult in the time so I, I, I

had COVID in the same the same time he had to be here I think it's just a break here I think it was he was he was over the United

we're just waiting in the camp that had been been made I had taken about three three months before the

little bit of the Luce that we were marked and it would happen to all the world was all

everybody was prepared to that that when we came to we did we did this test and

and all the All the most test negative and the Ramoser.

And so two days after I started symptoms, I did other tests that was

positive. And when he had the COVID affected he was a

very very difficult to him. All the symptoms he had including the

difficulty to he was kind of me preoccupated. In the middle of the night he started to be debated, desperal, to not continue to respite, and

we'd want to be to hospital, you know, that would have, that would have been, what happened? The Luka fell. The Lone Edward also is because I'm positive with COVID, so the Lutca, it would not happener more.

We're just waiting to pass all that part there, the symptoms, and we're going to go to go back to house. After that I went to

the house, what we did we do we did get a ray of a rio-X and a resonance

magnetic of the lung and the heart. The doctor had said, I had

said I, he and he could train. What was, was that I could be getting without a

trainer. I was with a problem to go to the sky. It was

that I had had done a train so to up the stairs. I knew that

he had something. And he also. What happened was that he he got,

when he came, when it came to the time, the year, he went to come to America,

because the FC said that he would talk of him, but he came to

he was no one of the treinators to me. Devido the time that

had passed he no no no he thought he's he's

he's just he's he's going to he's not he's not he's not quite

the medical many of many times for him he was the commone he was he was

had been pneumonia or something of this type asthma some some

he got asthma he he picked and went to he went to

do do a sparr and he was when and do nothing, he started to tussing

and conspicuant. It was the hour that he started to get in despair, because he was having

many, many the athletes of high-level that was having complications very grave

because the post-COVID or even via oboe because the post-CO not have been respected

that part there. I remember that I went to to train to know in March

and I got to COVID in in the initial of December of the other. It was there that I prepared to compete in a buddab not me sent me 100%,

not me sent me well, but much better than when I was in my part of recuperation. He not. Like, let's say, some, about three months,

after the COVID, four months, in the mass, he took, and was doing a train. It was there that happened all this. And we,

He was there. He was just in America, and the team all in the Suez, that was the way that he was in the truth of despair. There's no, there, no, there's a custom of to hear, you know,

people that he confi. And then he pego and, at the same hour, he said, no, it's not going to continue doing this and to put my life in this.

It was then he he came and he made that postage, saying that he'd this thing to doze and so. But then, then,

after this postage, we took him to go back to Swess, and we're working the part mental of his body

of the body. We'll just we'd just him. We'd justem that he'd know that he'd not

do you know he'd be a new too new too, living all the hype one day

the guy is a one day, and a car's living a-divine a omoose with two

you know and in the other day the guy was the guy more a in the world of the MMA

in the major organization of me so with that was something was something was a

bit of being disprevened to know how he and after this he passed a time in a

time he went because you don't go to come to visit your father your friends

and your friends of your friends of your friends It was when the president of Chechnya Hegenea and he

he was called him he made a jato to get him in the Suez he went to back there passed a time with the family

with the family and then when he was he was been so recuperated physiologically and physically

it was he came to work to work to do to do that in the battle in the

yeah it was he was that the lute with the happened

he finally he went a long time after the little time after he had been in he had

he would he would he would be in the whole he did in the video with a video with the same

and what he said he was he passed the car in a death durissom

that is the jingiland and now he's on a patamar

on he will go a big down the category middle

when the guber's durin when the For many, is, maybe the casement of

the Chilus most difficult for him in the division, because he is a wrestler and the

person, he's a fraser of the jiu-jits. How can you you know, this duel

of the stilus? You think that the Durinu is the worst for him

in the division? You think not it is a poor, there, there's

a game to be a lot of he. So, I always said, that the

Durio would be a would be a a guy that, could

have to have to have to have the power of the Chimaev to evolve

because all of the other other people have practically the same the top five

so what happened I started I started to talk more about

this because after the the the I was everyone was

there went with the with Neil Marley, with a coincidence Luke, will not with

with Michael Kienza. So, all these guys are the back the Duran. After the

the Lotha with the Chinese, the Camaro and the Kobi would be to the Cobra.

So, the Kov was the number one, the Camaro, the champion the

above the Kov was the D'Rio number two. When many people were

asked, So, who you think that could cause a problem for the show? I don't not want to

tell the number 10. If I want to be a little I can't be able that's not

be very rancheated. I don't want to the number eight. I don't not say the

number three. I'm going to say the person the number one that in this case was the

doorin. I believe. I believe that this is the a lot that can

prove to a world whole if the shimah really can't be a

condition he he goes to a he goes to a challenge

a a a a a plate I'm a I'm

a area specific that this this life that

this this life because I see the two

the two athletes with great potential in all the Aririo Darinio

Darin's Nucatio, Durin's Durian he's finalized and the him

and the Shimaev also so because Durio being Durio's

champion World's has a high level world and

for the Schemeyer if he really really son in a day to be to be

to be to be to pass for this or or maybe in some

moment of of the career he would have to have to have to get to this this patam

like the thing so so this this this this is a case

it's it's that the the the the two have a

two have a true or it can it can happen the the lute

to the if if for to the I believe that the Chima Eves is prepared to the

fight to fight. And I don't believe that that's that, nobody is free

of any kind of of anything of the kind of has been a spoccoct if you're

not, you're going to be going. Any man. There's arm,

if it's a way to go back the contrary, will be it.

So, there's super-eroy it's part of I work I'm very with the athletes with the

athletes that I have an opportunity to work it's the potential everyone has you know

if you're getting to study the best that we can we can't be able to

let's see-de in the we can't we we can't we the main

example of is that that that thing a year after a year

I saw many many people phenomena of Jiu-Gitzo cars that I never see finalized

to be in MNal because MMA not is Jiu-Gitz a different

we need to we need this so so who who Rolfo Vierre the phenomenon

of Jiu-S was finalized Leo Santos, for the man of of God one of the I never

imagined that one a day the Leau would be formalized or even the

Jacare or or almost be finalized by the Jack Hebb so, so the

man, the chown is so we know as as the

I think I believe that one of the first the first the first

we have to is to recognize that everything we can't happen to we can do we're doing we're doing

to do because it doesn't but I did this much in all the preparation

and the cause no, not not with the way. The

reason, I believe that theurin not no no the

fear of so so so, that this like as,

as I said as, if the two athletes is very well prepared,

and it has the capacity to show to the public a lot never seen in the story of the

F. But if one of them fail in some part of the work of the

preparation, it's exposed to there. And there will happen the disaster for a woman.

The Dourin was in the last episode of the podcast of Troca's San Franke, and eloged very the shone of Kimaev, he said that the

girl is very hard, no, there's a talent, but it's just that you think he gets a lot? You said, you know, that everyone can be finalized. The Kimaev can very be there and finalize the durin, too, but it's so you think that the Lutaka? It's very difficult

to say, as well, as I said. The guys are very good in all the areas. This luta can be developed in any other a place and the two are ready to do a spectacle to the people. I have

much faith and I have much confidence in the victory. How she will come, for me, and I'm counting that it's in a way just,

without to pass and robes, without, nothing to do. Victory, victory, I'm going to be very happy.

But it's clear, as a trainer of a victory for finalization, I'd be me to make more

But, in a mode general, the job is being done to the result. Because this is the element

principal. The Kimabh did a lot recently of wrestling with the Jack Hammerson was a

performance good of him and he said that he said that he said that he he said he said

for him how he would how would be how would do you know the submission of graping Jujits

with kimono or same kimono how you think he would you It's another lute, not it's not

valet suc, not value not value cuttovelas and so, and you know the

you know, the career of his he did in the year and in the unkem

and he and then you're playing in a way you would be a lot between

them with him jimmono yeah of jimms? Yeah.

Caram oh, then we'd have to enter 100% 100% in the

house of Durin the bols with I'm sure I'm going to more

more fend in the durin than I'm in this way. So, so, I'd need to need to

more time to prepare the other but you have prepared the things they were with the

people are to be the way to think the Brazil to be in six months there

training to the people to be after the doorin is very good in the

part of the shen to do to do you always you always always

things different so durin with him he said he said he told him he said

he said for the name to get in secreted for not create there

trets diplomat to help to help a professional to get to the

psalo in the question in preas the question you're

people were to refus the kemp of Kemi made, did a different

to prepare to the Durino or have been the same thing that's the same

compared to the champions anterior to the team before the British training him training him

to look against a Brazilian so I think I think I think it's not a

difference so you will be a wrestler in five two weeks in the

same form that I would if I would if I would would turnarie a strike in six months.

The guys, to be at a level that they're at a level that, they're doing this in a lot of time. So, we've worked very with the

first we have there in the South, some guys we brought to train. Cairas the same, very well

well, quite, quite known, in the part of the shang, of jiu-jitio, of the Tengimono. Some of the years were in a temporary

in the Suez. Others were to come in here. Others we've got to come here. So, we don't did nothing so of special. A we adapted

and brought all the preparation for one car, which in this case is the durin. But, but in a mode general, we don't do not

secret. No, we did you have to work with that's not about the preparation

that we did with the Chinese or to the American or no preparation now.

Preparation there's much what does we're saying. We're we're going and

are evolving, are working, accertando, adjusting, for that when the day to get we can't

we can't we can't get a victory so that we're in we're with a team

very good so in the hand the Rowe and the Vaucan is there also got training

and is preparing to be a lot there's a good there many

many many of many many of Russians who are working there

there there's there the people the there the people of Newerueue

that's there many people of England, there's many people good to train there's

there's a lot and then after we've made the part of the country, we came to come to

the major people, the people there are there's a local of the people, the guys

who have people who I've entered in contact when I came to get to

to help the preparation in the training so there there,

no there mystery, is to work in the way we do we need to get to make

a victory. The only new thing is what the difference compared to the time you now have to have this

partnership with the two, the guys are put up those, the kind of

the role of the procaation. He has been pretty good that's he's

bad he doesn't, but he was the guy in the same a man, a man,

a very great, uh, training with him with him we had in the game of

a game of a ress in the jurgis the pressure and he does the talk about how it has

been in this partnership between them to there's there's there's all the

people here was just the union of the good and the guys

are they are so they're so they're so they're so they're so

they're so they're so much to be even of the and the he'll, he

needed to breathe in those areas, to be a person who's with a

very with a want to get so, I believe that not just the

part of the kind of a part of a kid a also also the part

mental of the man, with certainly he, po, he,

he, po, is a little more more impugated. And without the guy, the guy, the guy,

the guy, is a exceptional. Asexual. A guy who, I was, I was,

I've got opportunity to know, personally, and he also, he also, he's a

Portuguese, he's, four years, he's a family in the Marnearo, in the

South, a student, an, student, the master Brigadero, who, like,

so, he's a dude, you know, but I'm a car, but so, but so,

car, a person a person very good, is always to sum, to help, to help,

there's a humility immense, to ask, to learn, to learn, what that's,

so, it's difficult to, to find out for a person, this,

this patamour, like the Garantil, for example. So, this union, car, I believe

that, like, so moved a lot of the car in the part of the foot,

but also, the child can, how I would say, educate much the Hamza,

because the child has a lot of the doctor so. So, one, is a part

the psychological mental, of one to the other, I believe that is that,

at least more more important than the technical, the physical, get the so,

for this I had said, this one of this. This union was exactly

the problem of the union between the Ucto and the guys are you

are so extraordinary. And Kimmel cameh came over post on the social on the

time, but again, you know, saying, if you if you wanted if you could if you could say,

if you could say, if you want to But it's just to get there, but it would be good for him not so the aspect of the rest

that has been been to get to be back back to and he's over sofeed much against the Rabibh

Nassin, the dancing also also got to put to back back to be much, but

also this part mental of confidence for saying in a porrada all day with

with guys of your level maybe maybe maybe something that he

is a something that he in a team where he is a great star and there's more people

there's people, there's not there's not there's no, but there's no,

the level of Conor, yeah, that's a thing he would with Kimaev, Darren Tew, Gustafson,

this gallery of the team. So, I think, I, I believe that if the

Kona did this, it would be the best of his best, he would be a good. did

this, man. I was real of sufficient to understand that I need to be

I need to do you don't there's no way to get an a strike

with a job the evolution of a world in an environment

where you have many other guys who want to you

want to you motivate you inspiring doing with you

can you can allow your dedication it It's like if you

were going to zero again. It's a reset. He said, I need

to be able, I need to this. So, it not just he has been interest in evolution.

It's being a mild reconnoencing that he can't continue doing that he can

be in the hour to look a new new Zard. So, if the Kona

have this humility, and and I decided to come to train with us

I believe that he can sum much and also he can learn we can

be much to serve and I have certain that the Kona also

not not just in the part technical of the but also as I

said a man that has much baggage with a lot of experience. So, this part

nobody can get to him. If someone is there there, disposed to hear,

understand everything he has to pass, I believe that this person will get to

get many the good through, through, because the factor for the factor

for the thing, the team will be being the team, will be

the Jamblarov Wits had there's no, with us. The Iri, who will not with the globe,

the racket has trained with with a guy, Jimmy Manua, Ilatir, Volkan, is there now,

many, the people, many, the guys, well, trained, yeah, there,

and, always to have been to be the because these guys, so were to get,

sobeer, they, sobered to start, so better, with humility, will be very

good. But if you get with a good lack of humility, wanting to have a problem,

so it's better that not a piece for this our never a piece, you have to

be a piece that incache there, and the requisite is very simple you need to

put the ego to out of out of the world will be be very very well,

So, we're going to We're just We're waiting We're going to He's still He still still he didn't

But the convict was launched, now that's That's right. It's right We're just to say,

you know, obviously, you obviously, believe in the victory of Kimew and you think that

he's going of him, the Tarylott is the certainty of the question of the

we're in front the Leoned then, so maybe have to to be in a little more to do this

Lugat. So, he may have a guy who go after a guy who gets to keep on every time, so maybe

he's going to keep active? What do you think he'll happen? He's going to Duran, or he

will be doing a lot of before? No, he will be active. He's just about this, yeah,

understand. The case the Vittoria this time, we're going to continue. It will continue. He'll

be active. maybe, maybe at the Lute in the category of the same in this

middle time, but with certainly, or even against any other other

person, in this category but he not will sit, I'm just on the

end of the year, and he pretends to do three to four lutes

this year. And you think when eventually to get a dispute this

entran, who is that the other side of octagon will be the Uzman or if you think the Edwards will be able the bank

in this revan he's just he's just he's a revoir for him well, so I think but if I

think if I go think if I'm for what would be for my team for my athlete

I would like the Usma would be because if if he could if the if the F.C. It could

be a FC could give a revanch for him. We needn't to be able to him. Get me?

So, I think this form. And, and so, the Usma is very

good, but the Edwards also, from the time that they've been to

today, the evolution of Edwards, he is an athlete totally

different than he was when he was when he was when he

was when he so, I think, in the in a

trocaption the Edwards is very better than him without that he the Edwards

also he defends much he has no how how I can do you

do that not that not that is that he no no the

contrary it is it difficult to it but but but

but if the Usma can get derubing, there's a man,

also has a location very good but we're doing that because it's also the other

difficult difficult a lot. So, it's a lot of I'm anxious to see

because the two athletes have evolved quite compared with the last

time they were the last they've put them all the most, the USman in

decided to defend the tournament various ways. And the Edward Spurter he gained nine luts. The last nine, he won't only the only, so he won't. So, this proves that the guy is not the same.

At each other, you can see a revolution major to him. So, it's a case of surprise, but if I could have chosen, with it, with the only

for that he would be the rinked would be nothing. He would be be in the field to be able to get to the troton.

To be, who knows, in the end of this year. If the victory will be in this time, never you know.

So, so if I would be to give to God would be a present of the national

anticipated. The signoral of the team. For the while the time, but from

the grandincent, there's a guy, there's that he's a porad of him. Well, is that's

that's all that's all. For sure just to just to just to make sure, he probably

he probably he will be to be active, after the year to Dorin, while the

guard, the dispute is a counter to get a little bit of a lot of the middle. He's

said, he's a back to a lot, which would be the objective of his

career, until what you think, even how you think he could he could be dominant and

competitive in the F.C. You think it's a middle and middle, or you can

even to think it's to be to a little pesado there. So, like I

like, he goes to the different. So, the focus total is

the medium. Focco total. But if we get the the centuron, why

not do not to the don't the general of the category

of C. So I know. So I think that I think conditions to

do this happen he has, capacity also, but don't for we're

to be able to two arms, we can't give a path, we can't. The focus total,

today is the Luka with the Lundia. 100%. Ideas we have millions,

but all will start to be deciding, concretizing, a part of the result of this

this future. For this we're with the focus totally stationed in this.

Total. That's right. Thank you, man. Thank you very for your time. I know that's in this correlia of the retinal

of preparation. Parabase for the excellent work that has done to be doing the general. I'm curious

to see how it's going to do this one of Dundurima. Thank you much for the participation here to

postcast. Thank you. Very. very great for the opportunity. I'm going to be always be able to be able to

need to need know how to me to get a time, we're going to come to come to come to

care, adjusts, train, the calendar, fuz or arre, you know, preparation,

all the time, all the things don't bat, but the carrily always

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