MMA Fighting - Trocação Franca: Thiago Marreta e Johnny Walker comentam duelo no UFC, e lenda Marcus Buchecha analisa estreia no MMA

Episode Date: September 22, 2021

Thiago Marreta e Johnny Walker comentam o duelo verde-e-amarelo que lidera o card do UFC Vegas 38, dia 2 de outubro. Ex-desafiante ao cinturão, Marreta fala do sucesso do filho do sub-20 do Grêmio, a má fase no octógono e as críticas de Walker, além de revelar desejo de se testar no boxe. Walker fala como o Fortnite ajuda na rotina de treinos, a vida na Irlanda (e se o uísque de Conor McGregor é bom mesmo), o duelo com Marreta e a possível aposentadoria aos 30 anos. Marcus Buchecha, lenda do jiu-jitsu, analisa os altos e baixos da transição para o MMA e a estreia no ONE Championship. O podcast recebe ainda Carlos Antunes, repórter da Ag. Fight, para analisar os destaques do UFC 266. O melhor do MMA brasileiro no Trocação Franca, toda quarta-feira, com o jornalista Guilherme Cruz e convidados. Thiago Santos and Johnny Walker stop by to break down their upcoming UFC Vegas 38 main event. A former UFC title contender, Santos chats about his son’s success in soccer, his rough streak in the UFC and Walker’s criticism, as well as his desire to box non-YouTubers in the future. Walker explains how playing Fortnite helps his training routine, life in Ireland (and whether or not he likes Conor McGregor’s whisky), the Santos match and the chances of retirement at age 30. Then, BJJ legend Marcus Almeida looks back at the highs and lows of his transition to MMA and previews his upcoming ONE Championship debut. Brazilian journalist Carlos Antunes of Ag. Fight also helps dissect UFC 266 and Anthony Smith’s recent win. Listen to Trocação Franca with Guilherme Cruz every Wednesday to hear from the biggest names on the hottest topics in the Brazilian combat sports world. Follow Guilherme Cruz @Guicruzzz Subscribe: http://goo.gl/dYpsgH Check out our full video catalog: http://goo.gl/u8VvLi Visit our playlists: http://goo.gl/eFhsvM Like MMAF on Facebook: http://goo.gl/uhdg7Z Follow on Twitter: http://goo.gl/nOATUI Read More: http://www.mmafighting.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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the M.M.A. Fighting in Brazil, Guillem Cruz! Hello, hello, my friend.

Welcome to the third episode of the podcast Trocafranca, a new house on this immense podasferra.

I'm Glemy Kruis, correspondent the site American on M.M. and I'm back in

this quarter afternoon with not one, and two, but four, convidates specials.

Also, Marcos Boucher, the major champion of the Jiu-Gitzo that's a major on the 6thair in New York,

I'll receive Tchago Marreda and Johnny Walker that batten in the front of the UFC on the day 2 of October in

Las Vegas. But before to talk to let me talk with Carlos Antonis, journalist of Agefi

and Labrador Human, the impranza Marnus, all right, my friend, my name. My honor

to be part the podcast of the podcast of a podcast is a success. It's a success. It's a pleasure to be with with a friend who we can't try to try

a idea. Hey, we see that the podcast is decoling because, boy, we're, we're a crescent and financial of quality of convidates, now, now, but, Paul, Raphael Marin for the ultimate convoy, so I just want,

I don't want to do you, know, I'm not quite, know, it's an idol, no, there's no, no, so I don't want, I want to do you, just, I mean, so, let's first,

talk about the event the last week, the event of the last the end of the last year, we've had to Belator and the UFC on the Saturday there was a straight , a guardate of year

of Romero, against Phil Davis. I've conversed with a last month, we said that had much expectative in the first the first of Yoh Romero,

the return of him after a lot of a lot of course of a lot, as you are a lot of a great great treasper, that's a few Davis, that little

game of course, and it was the last option, not was a great lot, not was spectacular, Romero streed with a lot,

He still has many fans, he still is adored by the fans of MMI, but he's been to expect for the future of his. Who can't be expected the future of Romero? He'd be estrearer in the GP against Anthony Johnson, he's out of the GP for motive of safety, and now,

estreke with a defeat with a few Davis. What can't be able to expect to our Corolla Cubano there? It's difficult, the actuation of Romero was very low-bast than what we'd be longed, he'd talk a time

without, he's punted, also, lo, I'm a little bit of He was fighting in the middle, he's not doing more pesed he's a guy

a man, he's a man, but it's difficult see what will be the future of Romero, he's just

he's just flirting with a return to the middle, maybe it's maybe he was to look even in the

middle people, he got the people, he was a thing, he's a good,

very strong, the invority is a vergergerger than the roomer, he's, I think the future of

Romero, Gu, he, he's He's just talking this, the Scot-Cocker he's just the doors open up open.

I think it will be a return to the middle, and let me see he will be able to get the problem in the

F.C. It's really if you're going to the Punt of the Lapes, he's been to four derrots but the three he suffered

before the first he's men, the FECC, the Adesain, the champion, the Borrachin, and the

Yittaker, and the three Lutters, you can't say that can't say the last time, not rolled

much a lot, but the Rottotton but contra Borrachin Wittah, who were wars, he's still one of the middle of the

world, he's just just to refinar, adjusts, something to put you, if you're in the peso,

he can do make a bador, he can't do the best of the person, he's not, the category is

more aberted, there's a mose, but there's a lotto, but are the lottors that he, I think that can be more

in front than the guy of the middle than the guy he has some future, can't be a car to say a car with a signer on.

And now, the guy is in three rounds, passed the car finalizing of Ryan Spann. And it's not to imagine a scenario where

the Anthony Smith surja from a serious candidate to a centuron, or he's getting these good victories

because he started the guys of the elite, the division. Yeah, I think I Boutu,

this second part of you said, Guy. I think Andrews is a great lotator,

I think he may be in the top 10 of the category. The category of the category of the

and a bit pesage of the NFC, also, not's with great stars, like we can't say, oh, Anthony Smith not really, but we're seeing, when the Anthony Schmidt came, got to be

a lot of, he got a job, he got a racket, and it got more complicated for him, now, he deced a little, he was intelligent, he gave a few steps

of a time, and got a new sequence of victories, and he's got in a position to new, he, he's the last, the last one ghost of his,

the rachite, it seems that he's, he said, he's a lot for Anthony Smith, I think if he'll confront the raquist to do you again,

and then, devolved a derogatory, I can't be able to be a new year, to be a bit of a point in a little long,

despite of these victories in the course, I think there's a part he has Marietta, there's a blachevice, that's the champion,

there's a , I think that's a guy that's more quite a bit more than he's, but I think he

engat a new sequence of victories, he can, the category is a big, the category is very open,

not there's a guy much dominant, as he's a time in the time John Jones. Maybe he could get a

new display of a stupro now. But for hour I think to get more more two, wince the Rackit and thence

more a little bit more or John Walker there, can't be able to be a good option for him.

And I think it's a decision of a bit of a little and conquest confidence to know,

who we've been many people who I'm just want to pick a top five, just want to get a top five and at

sometimes you need a pass-at-a- to start the time your way, getting a athlete of a

level more more than the guys of the men who are the guys of the elite, the division. And I think

it was a bit of the event, it was a event that's a real event, that's a lot of a

time with a time of her but it was in greener when it then he then it was he went

with a time of she with a time of she was with she was, you said that the situation

was, in case of the done and the F.C. Peked a starryant that was invicted

in VIII and did do you have to do you do you know, it's a winceau with a

lot of but not a lot of a lot more that's that she everybody was always

she was she's going to an adversary that's the elite of the division to the

country to get a cardinal that all the whole people imagine that she would be

that she you aggratore you impressioned, or conquisted the three points there, and it's what

valid. I think the Ariana also, like, she said, she said, she said with a hype

really, champion of the KSW, that person had been in people, she would have had been

to get to get to the UFC, now she, now she, now she's not trying at TET

in America Top Team, and maybe I also, I also, I talked with her also, she

was just being much this evolution, to have more material a man

to to train. I think it's important for Ariana, one of the one of the one of the

many of the people who's very people who trained with a minute with her really to be important for the evolution of her.

And I think she picked this striante, it was good for she did summed the three points, to work to

wince, to get a pressure over the arms, but not she she's a poor,

Rianne now, you know, will get to get to get to the general, no. I think it's

to get that the trocation of her is very good it was a true for a role of the

score of no, but I think she needs more dangerous but I think this is a important

for she to get to get a pressure, but now I think can't be a lot of a

lot of a lot of top 15 maybe, to see to see this evolution

at T even, this training with the person of the TT is doing

a difference and she can't then she can't hangar spaces major in the

top 10 for I think have to have to with Ariane, to have to be devalire.

But we know a category is a category very razzan. For example, in the next Saturday, the F.C. 266,

the Cintrong will be in the show, the Valentina Tivichienko against Lauren Murphy. And I don't know anyone who don't have

the name Murphy, who think she that she'll have been seen in the Lentickickick you, you know, you,

you, soididized with the family Murphy and think she will be she turn champion

Saturday. I think the Valentina Chivichinco is, with Amanda Nourdes, they're all the champions very dominants,

more dominants of all the categories of the FECD, we don't see any other category taking the Pelo, the Peno, I mean, even there's category right,

the peso Lue-Las and the Pes-O-Mosca, with a dominance, a discrepancy of the campaign to the other adversaries so enormous so, so, so I think it's

very difficult for Murphy to debunked the Valentina. I don't see the Bracea of the Valentina, that Marf can explore,

there can't be able to arm, and gave a a tear in a Valentina, because I think I don't see another way of Murphy if I'm going to,

if we're going at the case of the appostas, it's the major zebra, disparate of the event, is the victory

the Murphy, so I don't see the breath in any of, but I think if the Murphy will be one of the major

Zervae was the story of the M.MA. If the Murphy can get to get to the centroand

to bring to a arm, because the valentina is Ballet, and she on the Instagram,

on the social we're always posting video, atirming, you're making with an arm, and even in the

case in the question, even in the question, it's not, you know, to get to get to get to a biggorn,

and say, man, it's been doing the aspect of the lute, yeah, I don't know, he's, you know, the respect, that he makes a

the stenture, against the , against the Max Holloway, were utas for many, he pervers,

he pervers, one or maybe to have the two years? You think this other will be a other that he

will be able to get in and gain the respect, or you think he will be going to

get a reenade of him. This question of Volcano not have a question, probably the vision,

no clienta no clientas the category of Pesupenae, yeah. I see Max Hollowe and more,

there more more resources, I think, the Volcano that's, we're, let's say so.

But the Volcanoves we can't demerce the victories he did he did the chard Mendes, go to Wald,

go two two years of Max Hollow so I think he may have that he doesn't that he's a lot of the

people just will be able to get to Brian Orteg because he's a guy who also very very good

with a zombie Korean, he gains this respect he mayn't this status that the UFC sometimes don't

many many many fans also don't maybe it's a good test for him, that he was a great lot of the lot of the man, he's a man

a great guy, too, it's a very test for Bocanovs also, he's probably, I'm playing this team and nobody will try this cent

to know of mine. It's a test difficult. The Bay Ortega is a vittal over the Zumbicoorian, that's a man, a little

before he had taken a pal of Marks Hollowey, but, but also, he gained us all the world, but were

all the he passed on Sufork, but he finalized the moicano, he's quite many, for four years, but he finalized

after after a suffolk. So he is a very talented, he's a lot, he's a good, he's a job of finalization very good,

but it's the money, I'd go to put out of my that's, because he's a joke a lot of time. It's a lot of, you know, in a lot of, in a chato, in the way of the

because he's a guy that a lot of a guy that's a guy that he's a guy who don't run to go back

to get a lot of pressure put up to back back, and if he got to the Max Hollow, there's a

question, he won't a second, and he was he got of guys, like the Hollywood,

like the Chademands, we've we've been he has predicated to win to Brian Ortega

and the Brian Ortega, in my vision than these three against. he'd have pegged COVID, that thing was a time after a time

without a lot, the time, he took a time, he's but I'd like I'd also be in a vocanoge

to maintain this centuron. It's true, and this centurion, and this tauts, that's a revanch

of Robb Lolley with Nick Dias, that for me the F.C. acerterter in mark this

revance, because if the Nick Dias have to return to the octogono after after that's a

lot that does a sense, not it's no way to get a kiddice and put

to put a little lot of a little bit of a lot important to make a lot of a lot of epic, the

more of the 200 of 6 after. So, and this look makes how the character is a phenomenon

of audience, the card has been two disputes and that's people are more anxious to see,

is the vote of the Nick Diaz. But the question that I do you do you let's go

to make a series of a memory here. Where you were on the day

29 of October of 2011? This date was the last time that the Nick

Diyas won't a lot of Meree going to do you October. Pugia

you got 29 of October 2011 is time time too we're getting old so the memory

now it's going to start going to start there was some with a rapazard, but it's a lot of

the war I remember the with the United States with with Anderson Silva, the last one of the last his last year, I remember, he was working. And it's time for

caramba, yeah, he's, I've been a lot time, I'm trying to talk about the Nick Deers, it's a goalace

of the FCT he's a lot, because it's a guy, he has a 455 years, but, he tries much hype,

he has much a visibility, and also it's a goalast to have brought to Robbohler as you said, because to

bring the Nick and it's a of back, ah, car, no end up

a lot of a guy, the Zah of the guy of the end up the other way, it's a

thing that's a same thing, it's like the time, he's not the whole, to do you just to

get a caskart, no, they're going to make a lot of the that's that's a

kind of the public, and get a hobby, like a kind of it's a kind of

he's just a lot of 2004, I think it's a goalast, I think it will be

like, as you all too much The return of the Tenturon, I'm at the Torn, I'm trying to see, but the return of the Nick Dix, to see what he'll look at, how he

comes to work his physical how much more than the aspect of his role of his return. I think it's very interesting to see this return. In a lot of 25 rounds, it's a one thing interesting, you know, did it, did he say with one days with Leon Edwards, in Duton 5 rounds, since I see

coming in event, you're disposed of the centuron, it will be interesting to see how it will be. The Rob Lollin is in a situation very delicate, too, very being per Degener of 3,000, suiters, but it will be It's very cool to see. Impressionant

and it shows how the Imongios have an appeal, the guys are cultuados, impressive, how they are amazing, how they're

amazing, and this event, for us to get a contract on the UFC 2666, is full of Brazilian,

we have the back the Battistaka against Citiacal Ville, we have Marlon

Morais picking a pedreira of Maraubh we, we have Taila Santos

infentana in Fronten Mara Ferry and a Chitaara and the Chittara and the Manon, Fiorot,

who is champion amador of MMA, is being of seven victories in the professional, in a court chouard,

just a year, a year, a Brazilian, who are in this event here? Who is that is in the eye, and

why? I'm in a lot of Marlon, the Marlon Marlon Moras who he's coming in

a sequence of derotas, it's a lot difficult for him, the world, he's, a guy

that's being in The situation of Marlon is that's the we're talking about the

Anthony Smith a little a little before he's a guy that he's able to do a pass

after a back back to get a manhous to get to make sure to make a caska

gross but he just put a car a car to be front and he's he's a

mann't of heard of San Diego heard heard of Robbfonte so it's more

a pedreara for Marlon a situation delicate I've I've been with a few times

he knows the pressure that has, if he, for a case, he's a risk of demission, but he's accustomed to this, he's always that he's a lot more difficult, it's a lot more dula, and

we'll see, it's a carcinia in the shoulder, or see he's recuperated, if he's 100%, things that he said he said, he said that he was talking about the presentations of him. Let's see now, with Merak, that's a fight, if he'll make sure, if he was able to get a little game, he never said, he, he lost, Rafael Assumson,

but then he was he, but he got him, with the victory, the championed by the Superstantown, will be able to be in this Luton, a lot of a lot of quite very cool to be especially for the conflict

of stilus, and by the difficulty to have a Rallon onto an athlete down to the front. It's a matter. And now, let's make the

event, to call our first interview of the week, which is John Walker that the day 2 of October does, the

first main event of the FC against the also the also the same the same after the interview that's a mini-event

to be the first mini-event of his first mini-event against the tioaumrikoe mocha a duel braziliered into the octagon junior walk how are you all the other things for there my friend my friend diet peser without lesion

I'm incredible I'm going to your social I've been that you're going on fortnight there how is that how it helps to not just relaxes this you do some other form in the world of luta other than to disannuvia

ah I go to jog with my friends I was with my my sub-inue, my subpoena has nine years he's over car, he's just to connect with

some people, you know, for the fans, sometimes I'm playing with my other than I'm doing a little bit without him,

but I'm just relaxer, yeah, he's a game, a car off-dott's-z- a car off-dut-z- today, I did

a train very heavy, five-round, five-minute, deep-un-puched, then the trainer said, and go to the

car, go to make to come to doing more nothing because he has to be a little bit because I go

to make a little bit more a bike or I'm going to do a sombrite a lot, no, no, go to the

pet, pot, go to go to go and go to game. So this is one of the scap that's

me that's me also, because I'm doing how my body work now, so you

have to get to because I don't know, for your time, the stimulus that you do you do

do you do the supplement, I decide time, time, so I'm I'm investing my time

there too, You take a palt of a man of nine years, or you Gander? Yeah, take a pal, man. The man, the man is sinister, car, is it a d'all? What is your routine of game, like, if you, you,

you go to, you know, it's a thing, a thing, it's a thing, because, you know, it's good for you desistresser, but at times, if you're getting piled too, it's a lot

of your day, no? I'm just to do just to divert me, I don't have, I'm not, I'm just, I'm trying to streamer, yeah,

to try, stream, internet when it's not very good, because I'm a little bit afastated in the city, it's a lot, like, five minutes of the city, but it's not, it doesn't get the internet here. It's, it's even, it's very good to do it. And I'm just for, to do every day, no, I'm not. I jogging one, one, two hours and,

with God, just to relax. I go, jant, I'm going to do my sauny, now, before in the interview that I go to do a sauna, I've justed to go and I'm going to do. Then, I'll go and my namarra. And this is my routine, I, I'm, come, and I'll, and I repeat, in the other day, living like the

champion. How is the life in Ireland? Many of the people who's moving to a marvellous, a lot, for points, touristic, and you're, like you were, in a area rural of Ireland, how is your day-day, and, what's your day, out of training, and all. How is the city, how is the place where you live? I have to have a time to explore a little,

there's a lot of time here, restaurants, a place to go, to visit. I don't have much time, even, to explore Dublin. I'm here. When I came here, I was training to a other Luta, I was to do with Jimmy Crut. I was macheteer, I took up,

I took my time this year, all the time that I was invested in, in my life, in my life, I'm just, train, come,

do a while, to go, the other, I go, the time I go, I go, I go, cart,

in a cart-z, in the cart-z, compete with my preparer physical. I don't get in him, never, we just had,

just five times, or four days. He, every year, I even, I even go, more rapid than he. So,

that in the competition, you have to have a walk more rapid, who does the walk more rapid, I gave more on him,

but he did a walk more faster. He's always my ability in the go-kart. But, it's so I

go, when I go, when I go back, after my fight, I'm going to explore a little bit more more than you,

because there much thing to see here here, it's very, very legal. The same because in

Fortnite, you pete a minute to make a 19-a-a-a-a- in the cart, you're to be a

trainer at war then you're focusing on the other you're in the lot of the car you're in something,

I'm going to get a porrada I'm doing I'm doing a little bit like a lot no, no there's

not there just to be going to be to get you this because no I'm going to go in a corralad

no rest I just and the and the people are you're getting you get used

that guise is better or in this they're not even Yeah, I've got, I've never been,

I don't know to be very much to bebeye, but I've been to be a bit of a while, I don't know, a bit of a beer

and a bit of a goodyidid is a good, if it's aubbara, I'll even a biterer a bit more when you're

when you get a bit more but if you get a... that you're a little bit like, she has been

a bit of a bit, she does a don't get a a margible so, you know, I don't know

if you'd be a whole lot of the baby, all the But not But not But not And the whisks of the Magreggar

is good really? That he not used the vending here in Brazil so I never

have a chance to prove yeah yeah it's a whiskey not the whiskey not

it's hot ah no whiskey you can say no whiskey is

no whiskey is souros it is alcohol pure I'm alcohol

alcohol distilade a beer but but does the

people do you get a The guys of the guy who likes to the money to bea. Very, bebe much wine, much, you know, a lot of people who do.

I'm a little bit of the people who bebe. Talking a little bit of Lutte, you were a nomad, basically, in the world of the Lutta. You were always always always used in various places. I was always you encountered the team

of John Kavanah in Ireland, what do you think different in this place that you feel, po, here, will be the my

house for the next years. I rode the world all, I, I read the world, I, where it was,

where it was, where it was, there were, I have a friend in Russia, that is the Go-M-M-A, in America Top Team Moscow. My brother's there. My mom is heavy-weight,

in a piece-peasat. He's 20-year-old. He's training well there. I trained very well with the Frillas-Rabbe also in Canada. But here, car, the Phillis is very quality,

too, the goal, there's a lot of quality, very good. But here, the John is trying me like a filer,

man. The guy, me help me with the guys, put the car certain to me try, everything I need. Nutricianist, boom, he me

give a number of the car, he's got in contact, boom, I need to do you. Oh, John, I need a exam, boom, he's just a contact of the car. The guy,

he's quite that knows Dublin all, you know, so there's a support much great of him, I'm here, just in the other

other side of the house of, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a new, I'm basically, I'm, I'm back, the car,

put all the car, put a, put all the, I need, I'm just, I'm just, I'm sure, the guy,

, the guy, And if I need to bring someone, there's a place in a place in a academy to the guy to get, so the support is very great, the guy me abracus really

and I think he wants to do a project with him, he wants to do another champion. So I'm going to be able to do it too,

so it's going to do it so. You think he he'd see as a proper Conor? Ah, he me

like John Walker. I'm going to be the John Walker. But I just I'm the next Conno, the next champion,

a guy, the guy the FC, too, as he was, during much time. Ah, if

God is what everyone everyone who I think I think I have certain that I'm

sure that I'm going to my time of my life, in my career now and it's not

it's not not right not you know, you know, you've been a man from you

from you from you from the first, I'm a time that I'm a person,

you know, you're in your person who's you're in the fanes can't make the fans can't make

the videos to videos for you? What was the thing more bizarre that's

more being to be a message of a fan, generally, it's all a good

for a anniversary, for a wedding that's a casement but of sometimes when it's

people, they say, put some a terror in this guy and say you say,

if he not, not not, not, the the guys will be

put him put a per me, no, no, no, the people,

so, the the guy pager just to me torment the other sometimes

when a But it's, but it's but it's a manor to be that they're going to be like that. It's kind of imagine this, man, you know,

you're going to imagine that in the future the people are you paying to be to make a video. Yeah, car,

thanks to God, the things are all all the good for me. God, God, I'm a

good, but I'm just the first, I have to do a lot in the sport even, yeah,

I'm, not, I don't consider that I don't consider that I don't think I'm to conquer there,

the centuron, the I'm going to rank, to do lots historic, and I'm going to my way, I'm going to get to

the result. And this lot of the matter of the main event, is a lot of you know, to be able to

get more than to be a grand champion in the UFC, and how do you think that this lot will happen?

So, are five rounds programmed there? You think do it does do you think does it

does it will be going to do you will be going to go back to be

a guy wind explosive also, like I, he has power of the knockout I'm, I'm trying to

tryning the five round, man, I'm training in five round, five minutes, five minutes, every time, every time, it's my life now.

So, I'm ready to go to five rounds. If I can be able to go-rown, if it's not need to

I don't need, I don't know, I'm trying, I'm trying to think to me even, know what I I'm putting

in the job, I'm going to finalize, I'll knockoutia him, I don't let's make nothing to

the very trained and not to knockout to finalize I'm going to go to the same

round you have done you know after after years ago I've never very very contact with

him not many times not much I've got I never I never I never I don't

there's no there's nothing there no I'm not I'm not I'm

do you know I'm not I'm just my life I'm sure I'm feel like the other

yeah when it's with him, it was always a vibe a quiet. Ah, it was, it was a vibe

a vibe with a little. I don't remember if someone if there was something to get a thing with, I don't see anything.

I don't know, I'm here to talk about, you have a style popular, but it's a style people, yeah,

the guy is a binkalalien and so, imagine you that you don't attract this type of of the other's

too, yeah, I think no, I'm, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just,

I'm just, I'm just, just, to pick the bonus and to show to show, to show, to bring a

legia for the public, that's energy, I'm a show man, I'm considering a show man, I want to

do you know, my performance, I'm an artist martial, I want to show, the quality of my luck

and what I can't my technique is the best, and if not it's a day,

and I'm trying to I'm trying to get to the MECC with a middle, he came

up a middle heavy pesed, it was where he really he really He had an excellent

cameyad to do you know, which Marreta you expect to find out into the octagon? I'm really

that the athlete has a janela and I'm in my janela now, the janela

is a experience and the other part is the youthhood of the carie, so when

you're very new, you don't have experience sufficient, but you have much force,

much gas, much a want to when you're getting more better, you don't more of your

the youthitude, that gas, that pressure, but you have more experience so, sometimes it's a time,

the year, the year, she's, she's not, I'm a lot of experience, and I'm new even,

so I'm in my alge, I'm starting my own, I think the autism, I think, the quality of

the quality of the car, the genetic, but I think I have been my own now,

I'm in I'm going to lot in high performance until the 35, before the 30,

I think I go to after the after the 30, no. And the Maretta, I think he's a little he's a lot of great, he's a man,

he's a loter, that's a lot he's not, he's been a experience all, but I, I've been a paste for two

surgeries, he's just over a lot of surgery too, you know, a lot of a lot of a lot of the other day,

you know, training, every day, porrara, every day, so I think the my janel is

more abert than than the day, no, no, and in my I'm in the janelow, I'm going to the end up with the end. I'm quite putting the

door to put down in the door, I'll pick my januil, I'll pick that the center. You say with 29, so you're going to, so, you know, so, it's a reta final of your career, you imagine. I'm sure, man, you're crazy. I'm, I'm sorry, man, but, in a moral, there's day that I

say, puttack, psalm, man, I'm going to do, do, do you know, today, tampa in a porrada, man. I've got to tampa in a porrada once, man, four, five, a luke, and I, so-sing, tamping with general,

I'm all-dolored, can't, diet, with a foamy, stressed, go, let's go, let's go,

now, I'm going to this porre, now, I got a more than a little of a dispute of the

centuron, pick the centuron, put on on a-bigh- or, or... Then, then,

then, then, then I'm, there's, there's, there, the centuron, I'm,

I'm, I'm, the other side too- I'm at least, for me, to defend one, or two, and I want

to move my peso, make a piece of going to come back, I'm going to keep my gas to do you, see where my

foggette will be able to get to beaus about, that you're that you're always going to when you're

on the FCC, you have said, you're that you're a future, it's a possibility,

or so if were a champion on me heavy per I'm, I'm just I'm trying to

eat a p'clock, a little, a little, what I'm the name, cus-c- Cus, which is the carbos,

a vegetable-zim. Kar-lil, I ate so that I said, but my food is a lot of, I'm thinking of I'm in doubt, I'm sure that I'm

a day-ne not, man, I'm really, I'm going to get 10-10-kilo in off, you know, not a good, normal,

you know, the abdomen is like, and now I'm going to be getting, and I'm decend, I'm gonna

fall a mucat even. So, so it's basically for you can be able to you can't be able to be

a, Yeah, it, less stress, more energy, a diet's more a diet's more a lot of, boy,

you know, you've got to your time? No, not for me no. No, no.

It's true, man. I'm so, man, because I'm, you're a lot of people, in local,

in local, many, in the Brazil, in Argentina, too, when you know,

when you know, in the yeah, yeah, you're always, you're always there's always,

but you're always, but, man, it's a, saco-chee, no, not, not, not, not, not,

not to do you, know, to your court, deit to just, just to get to be in the time, you know? I want to

start the end up to try in a porrata. In fact, I'm gonna be able to re-hydratas, man, man, man, got to be able to

be able, eat, eat, get to be, get to, now, I'm gonna go,

for a minute to say, man, 40 minutes, 40 minutes. With fomomom Oh, do what?

It's the life that I I've chosen. It's it. It's a bad idea. I'm going to

some posts on Instagram, doing a, Twitter, Instagram, doing some of some cutucadins here,

saying that this Louton is defined the Rhoey the Rye of the Rue the Rhyto being destroyed

on the base of the pressure? How is you think this this is the battle? It's in

the base the pressure really? You can keep up I'm I'm sure I'm

I'm at no more I'm not a camp so well this I I passed a pung-a-b-ma-som,

my book is all cut out for the end, porrida, for-for-for-a-poh-poh-casses to this train in this camp. My, my mom, no-the-combe, and I'm-the-cuh-cuh-n,

no-cautie, man, I'm going to knock-a-law-the-lut, I'll be more cartelosos, too, you, do you, I'm going to run, go-rod-up, I'll-rod-bott-a-bbaugh, he'll get to-all-up, he'll get to-the-cuh,

where I'm going to do you, what I'm trying to do do you're going to do. And then I'm going to him, and he'll get to him, he'll be the other and the other

and the other and the other people are the way to the worst, you know, go back, you know, doesn't know,

but you know, more patient, more calm, like this, had a style me too, man, and yet, at times, it would,

maybe, I'm a shoot illegal, a little, a deal of a lot, and so, that did, in various

in the FECC, no chaos, rapid, but some, you've got paid the price, you, you,

You now are, you're trying the balance perfect of this to use your your agressibility of your loveura,

but with serietadity, with serenity to be the time the right of the way of that's not,

I'm sure, I'm a lot of a lot of a lot of the case of the experience. Every time

that I'm I'm a practice, I'm more, I'm more the question, I'm more, the way,

the movement more the movement, more learn to come more, it's more more,

it's more that's what's it's always it's more better than every time that I'm going to I get more

experience and so it's going I've been on your Instagram also a post you made responding

about the critters you received several about your question you posted a photo of a

goal that you took to a man you you felt but you you did the

trough and knocked he first you sense that the The doubts that the people can have of your question have been

responded? Because the Marrida, is a guy that's a guy that bad to be a good,

no exist, I don't even I don't even think the other people, the other they don't understand of the lute,

him can be any one in the face of the life, Tyson, Mohammed Ali,

in the alge of the career, if they take a son a foot, will be

do not, go, go, So what the people say That's the people say, ah, this individual, not even, no me offending

more, I'm going to be because he's talking Besteero, no-exist-no. Any other one, any of them, could be knocked out.

In fact, recently, the Conor, yeah, that's a guy that never been able to so,

so the dust, now, so the people have to, really, M.M.A. Never, everything

can't happen. As a guy who can be a, a strike he's known with a strike with a strike

of a but when he gets to get a way, yeah. So, so, So, go-bore, man.

I'm going to doy to love to look at many times since you go to go to the Rihland, I've asked, how is the

question that I'm going to you're going to you know he said a time in Portugal, at least he is he's in

States-units, until today, you know, of all these years, that you're, not you're not,

you've been in, yeah, yeah, you've, you've been you've ever in a academy? Here,

no, one, I've only, I've been one, Here in the academy, I never, never, he trained where he he wants to, he, he takes the camp where he wants to be, he, he's all to the academy just for he trainar, so, he, I think, so soon, I don't see him, so I'll see him, he'll be there, a festival, in

Abu Dhab, or in Lardegger, because to train in the academy, it's just I'm just I'm there, I'm here. It's a lot, it's a lot, yeah? And if I have that granite, too, I'm not, I'm not, man, you know, I'm not lot, I'm gonna lie, but I'll to talk about more nada. Just to eat, yeah?

I'm to eat, eat, play a game, go to go ahead, to go ahead my family, my family, my

friends, help, I have a day that I have the condition and so, to help the guys

that I know, that's all of, I'm, I was one of out of out of the first,

I'm trying back, that we've been from there to do when I'm doing, put me,

I'm a event need to need to enter in a event of the man of the good, quality,

good, train up from from the years until they're not going to not enter but I think they're,

but if I could get there, if I can't do a moral for the car, yeah, give a moropsych,

yeah, give a car, I love to help the other because I know, I know, how is

the life of the loter who can't get in the event grand even, but

I can't the same and it quality, but to be there's a lot of people who are trying to help. If I'm trying to help you. If I want to do this condition, I'll help you in student. Much of the Kano, in the success that he had, in front and out of the octagon. You want to see this guy to come to this, to this

guy who came to you, like to you, like to look for you, imagine that that's, you know, that's just, yeah, look for you. I want to be like the O'Ne one day, I want to be one of the UFC, I want to be one of the world. Sure, I want to do give to the people, I'm sorry, I'm from nothing, I'm I was in Tinguar, Nova Guasua, a reserve florestal. My family was a realty, never

never did I ever, from my family, I'd say to the country, you know, so, you know, independent of where you are, the condition that you have, man, even if you don't

have nothing, I don't have nothing, I'm, I don't know where I'm and I'm gonna go over much more more, you know, focus, that you

can't get to have to be perseverance. Not impossible, no, nothing impossible to if you, if you think, you can't be

a example, you can't be a example, We need to see. He's a good one example, he's an excellent lot of a lot of but he may

have some bit more there's a lot of pasted in the tabit a redel with a margaret of megan fox you know, I don't want to me involve this type of

kind of a kind of, I'm known as an excellent a loter but also a good example for the Kage?

With certain, I'm gonna give a love to my family, to my mom I don't

want to disapuntar anyone, I want I'm sure if if people are talking of me, have to say

to me, they have to be able to them to talk to say the things right to if someone for saying,

if someone were saying they're never said, I never say that's not that's a you, or you're going to

I'm sure, so I'm care of this time, go back, go and you go to do you know,

to do you know, to do you make a more time. I'm not but we're but we're

but we're thank you and the time time that's a conversation with John and Walkke

and we're direct, now, to hear the his adversary of his his brother of the United. From the other side of the line,

we have a time in Tiago Marrita that's a pre-in-in-vent of the FC with a compatriota John Walker. My friend,

how's the things about? Well, welcome to do you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. For the opportunity,

the pleasure to be always being part of being, time, time, time, is going to go back two seven,

and go through two weeks, and go back to talk with you, before, who I think you're preparing to be Pipe, the second

way. How's that this this heart there's a feeling about the moment of my life, for what I'm living. I think when you are happy in

all aspects of your life, the things feel and better. So I'm very happy, it's a new baby that's coming there,

we don't know still, even, we know, we're going to see the time that's but it

a blessing of God, there's a more a child that is coming there, now it's

a more I'm a more more than I can't the battles I'm in kind of not only the day the day,

but day, every day, I'm doing so I'm very very happy with the moment that I'm living. A friend of

two athletes of the UFC and you can't want to continue the pastes of you know,

how I'm in the heart with this possibility? Ah, for me all right, for the

man that's more complicated but for me all the important to continue the way, who knows

to do some some of my my son is who's doing football so that's that's the

most of the important. That's the boy, your father on the sub-20 of the Grameh?

You can keep in other country, with a future, you know, can't be to see the

game, can't be to see the career of his know, I'm , I'm, so the

games are being in a little time to I'm just so I'm still still I'm always

I'm always with him after the after the after the after the first of me

I'm going to say if you've ever, if he's If he's just, he's going, he's going to go bad, if he's going to go wrong, jogging. And I'm always trying to be always present, even from, we're not too physically, but I'm always

present, I'm always talking to him and assist him the jobs. For who knows, his son, he joys in what position? How is he, in the football? He jogs at 6th, our B-20 of the Grimio.

He's playing well, he's doing a good job there. We'll be able to, we'll be able to be There's a little bit to convocation to the Selection Sub-20, and I'm torsending, that he receives an opportunity. He's so good of shoot as well.

He's better. He's better. He's more. He's more faster. The father was more, style Adriano. It was a dribble and a shoot very strong. He's more style of Neymar,

and more ability with the ball. You know, is a botafogans? You know, has a son to see him to put his shirt on the glory. Oh, with a day? Ah, with certainty. with a certain I'm a

certain, he's a point of important he is a good job, he's going to maybe, maybe he'll

then maybe after the opportunity to play in the opportunity, so more important, but it's clear

that one day he's going in a bottle would be perfect. Well, as soon as the

World War, the World T M.A. to be in the country where the country is the world is the

world where the sport, the joker of the football garotada just dream with

a world lot of people, yeah, not want to not really to Europe. If in a

scenario impotetical in that the Brazil had the same the same the same

the same the same a world, or Peter playing on Barcelona, in a grand

team European. Ah, if the salaries were in very, but I would be

that he would be a lot would be perfect, but we know in reality.

But it's not Buttafovo, that our Our team Not's not Not a lot of Not even But we're still

But we're still Always, We're talking about We're talking about About the How's the expectative He's a guy Like you're a

Like a guy Like a guy He has to Aft Pothed in Pell He has a To start to come to

Up Cima Merectus And how How do you Howe you think Casas this style

Of two Two Chobo Yeah I think It's a lot impugant. I think the public will go to this

lot, justly, by this style of this style of his style, too, I think it's all to be a great battle, a great battle, a great lute. Independent of him, be a strike, be aggressive, I have to be prepared for all. He can't bring things

new to the mesa, so I've been trained a lot of everything, focusing, in my wrestling, in my Jiu-Jitsu. I'm prepared for all. I've interviewed to interviewer Wickewarker to the podcast,

also, he said that he said that you just got to pass up your window of the amoeia that you're not more the same athlete, what you have to say about this declaration of him? He's got inganed.

He's got he's gone, he will see this on the day 2 the day 2 of October he will see or not. Then, after the Lutta, we'll see what he will say. You see some type of pressure

for this moment that you're living today, vying of three deros? No, no. No, no, no, none. even, because the three the dronters

that I have been one of the that's that's a sometimes in the the car

to say the people say that's the people never passed the car in me so

all the I'm I don't where he took this that my time

passed but it's good that he thinks he he will be

soprener he will be I'm I'm coming of three derotes

but were things are devastating The costator, the things that passed the car, you're getting, it's per-feel and all.

It were lutses equilibrated, from the globe, that the globe me finalized was, but even as I applied knock-down, I came back to finalize a lotto, also, so it's strange, he to say this. I'm still competing with the

best of the millions. I'm there, I'm getting on the top, and I'm getting to everybody, so he's thought he's a much in a lot of MMI, always, there's something. Obviously, he cares

to wince always. Do you see, in this moment, for more that you not have been passed the car in these luts, do you see, for being of three derotas, have to do you to do go back for over

over? No, so, with certainty, me incommod, because I don't goad to lose, nobody goes to

get to get ridget, it's there there's a red in Sherdog, it's clear that I want to revert this

quadro, but without, without, I'm not aballated because, since when I did the

my surgery, and I returned to an octagon. A lot, every I don't come in decadence, I'm in a crescent. A carcences, a carcences,

I'm a lot more. So, this is the most important for me. If I were feeling worse at each other than I had been evolving,

in all the quesetits physical, mental, in the question of the question of the question of

a clobo, I, I don't do a chute. but the confidence going, all the normal, and for this look at this I'm sure

I'm sure you're in fact you know, to get the John Jones for many people and you got got to be your first victory

in two years and a middle, there's the time fasted, almost cirrhiz and all, you said that you said that

you're not but this makes with you to some kind of a combustive extra in the buss of

the victory? No, the most important, man, not a, Victoria, it's how I

will perform you know, it's what I always say, as people say, you think in the

people, I think when I do you do you perform, when I don't me

I'm not me sent you competitive, when I see that the guys are passing the car

in me, I think it's not when I know, I don't see, go,

go to other event, to get the more compatible with my

age, but But, while I'm looking with the guys more

to go and doing working to them and being competitive performing, I don't

see nothing I'm feeling good, I'm sitting 100% I'm sure I'm sure I'm

that I'm going to tell you myretta much better than the two last

after I went to the time in October you will see I much better

than the other other two two lots of those those of that you think the

time for the Tyrochot is more short than other athletes because, the name that you have been, the career that you have been,

the fact of you have been the last time that was the first of always be in that that's always like that's the world,

he's a champion, it's invicto for many years, but the guy who knockeded him that way was the

I'm sorry I just need to perform I just need a good victory performance good,

a good a victory, who knows, a knockout, a finalization, a lot of a lot that I impression, and then I just

will talk to me again. It's all that they want. They're so the UFC, the fans? The UFC,

yeah, the UFC. And you, for one side, you're kind of for Blahovit to see as

a champion? Because you will have always always this card in the bargain? No,

no, no. I tors for Glove, I'm, I'm merceed for a lot. I think the last opportunity

of his for all the he built, everything he has done, everything for merescement, and the ultimate

opportunity of his time, where he came, where he went, more one a stuporon in this age, I'll,

I'll trust for him, I, I'm in a form. Me inspires, with certainty, with certain, I'm sure,

I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I want to pass on the 40s and but,

you see he he, I think he I have 41, 42, performing, vencering guys of 30 years. And I'm a guy who's a lot of, I'm a little, I don't bebo, a drinker, I'm a drinker,

I'm a bit of a vigno-sign, more normal, a tascina, but not so to be able to, me, cures, training, maintain in form, so I think I have that I have conditions to,

to, you know, but we're, but we'll do, all the, all depends, too, too, of lesion, these things. But it's a guy who inspires, with certainly. How is you gain this

fight in the day two? I can't with a performance brilliant, man. This is what I can say. A performance brilliant. The people say, oh, Marretta, has been the phrase

that the person will say after the lute. It's been a performance brilliant. This I have certain. How, there are various manners.

I have various manners to end up the lot, various. So it will be one of them and will be a performance brilliant.

The Johnny Walker, he had good performances in good victories for knockout in some other he had a performance

a very inconsistent and many people were the question of after the victory he said, some reason why he talking about

my casehuis and then you think this things, this thing of this thing of quixing of a video? I think no it's a

MMA It's that. A goal can enter, the guy, the guy can't get to be I think not

I think not I think a goal of a guy, with guys of our person, a goal

well, a ballance, no way, can be any one. There's the exceptions of the

guys that have a quix of concrete, like, poor, maldonated, John

Linick, but in general, a goal of a person, poor, of the

person, putting, in the in the place right, the moment certain, it's a

moment's right, this louvina is impi-a is impi-dose man, where you take the air, to get in

the way, yeah, no, there's a man force. And talking to luvina, there's much

people, there's a lot of this today, know, this we've been seen this

happening, it's a thing that's, it's a future, it's a time, man,

kind of, I'd would be I'd like, but I, I'd if I'd could be

, a guy, totally experimented, with 20 luts, but who knows, a guy with a little lot of box, like I'm going to start but getting a guy with a few clots of box, too,

but a professional, a lot of a reality, a lot that's competitive. I don't want to much to look to YouTube, these things, not. You think that no, that's no merit of the Zetas of MMA

for example, we've seen, the UFC, that's out of Benach, and I'd like, who confronted a Jake Paul, they've got ended up,

but even if you were gains, I think it's that you know, he's not, he's not that's a, he's taking

the medicover the modality, so. He's going getting experience, I've gained in victories, but, so,

because, I've seen, the last battle of him, he, like, he, like, seems,

he, seems, he doesn't know, in the ring, so, some, the defects,

so, many, the defeits, so, I think the Woodley had an obligation to get a obligation, he had an obligation,

he had an opportunity for this, not know, I don't know, what it's what it's but, but I think,

this guy, Jake Poe, he still don't have a level to confront an athlete a professional even that not

not be a professional, that train all, he trains in the box for many, for many years, he will be

notcaled I think if he'll look with Anderson, he will be knockouted You think that he top this battle?

Or you think he will evite exactly for because of this? He knows what he's doing, he's getting to

the other, the adversaries set, he's not a plan of career, but there will have a

time he will have to really get a lot of a lotterer in the place he but I

think it's that you do you project a future? You know the FC liberate

is impossible so, then you have to be a post-career but you're a guy

that has been seven he's he's He knows who he he'll choose. And,

not a guy this will me choose and never a guy this will be able to fight with me.

Duvido, no, no, no, it's not much, not you do that's, after you know,

after the career of the FC, but for the end- long as a lot of J.

Walker, mirro- moving, a sub- to run- to-n- -n-n- -n-n-

-n-n- -n-n- -n-n-n- no-m- no-certain- no-certain- There's a lot to do

in the MMA, or in other organization, I still even more still to do me too much being very, I'm sitting

good, I'm sitting solidable, and I'm still a condition of, Maneer, Marriott. Thank you, more one way, for attention. Parabins,

more one way, for the filiot that's the way to do you know about the Johnny Walkmane. Vali, thank-a-a-old, thank-a-a-a-

for the new work, and I'm always to be able to be able to this map with you. So,

he's back here with Carlins, after the two sides of this main event, the Tago Marietta

and the question, what is your expectation of this first of the time, you know, that's being of three

deros, the lot of the lot of the performance very good, especially

when in consideration, the lesion that he suffered during the but then, but then

heard Techeer, he came to the quality the global Techeera, but then it came

finalized, and then the Rakit, that was a little moored-a-la-a-kha, for many of his, he won't have

a retentage that he won't that he's not a three detrotas, and he also also, he also

also had also a phase complicated in the FC, after the start of a abascelado, is coming

to a round of Ryan Spann, where he also he also also took a sust, but he

also got a lot important because are two Brazilian who are trying to get in in a conversation

in a conversation, or one will be to think to fall and the other will give a pass a more in this direction. Who do you think you

will continue maintain the dream of the sign of the centuron? You think the Johnny Walker levy more? You think the Marietta lever better.

I'm not quite curious to see this lute. I think it's a style that you have a lot good to be a lot of franca

there, gostom to go back front but I'm but I'm sorry somebody can try to try to try to make

a strategy different, Johnny Walker can try to try to try to try to try to draw a marrata there

like a marrata is very very dangerous in the part of the arm much too pesada but if I if I would

have to put in someone I would put Maretta I think Marrita has more more arms than the

John Walker I think the hand of Marrott is more than the hand the more more than

the luts with these different because of the cletas more difficult than the Jony Wocker

Marreta's just more than the Johnny Walker in the UFC, you know, you even though he got the Glover and the Rakeet, the Luton of the Glover, really, he was

no-cochew-chew-Glover, and the glovong, sobbed up to the back, put him to finish. With Rakeet, was a lot of a lot of chata,

but I think it was a lot of a little of a little bit of this now. Begoubos two two murders, difficult,

he got too longed pared, cirrude in a something delicate, to work to get a confidence to chute, to use the

arms of him, that needs much. I think Maretta, with this rhythm with the confidence recuperated,

I think the maretta has more arsenal of golfs to win this lute. If I had to put my money like I was

going to be in Marrita, but I don't see a favoritism so great this too, not. I see,

I see, 60-40 to Marrita, because the Johnny is a guy very explosive in initial,

it's perigoso in the if Marretta, did a moly- in that initial, and he can connect

some some be complicated for Marrette. It's true. I concord to you in the case of Marretto be a favorite he not traversed the better than the most I don't even see a scenario of John E. Cole, I'm putting it to go back. Because it's not a

thing that he did in the FCC. It would be a surprise very great. He fugged from Marrita, buscanned but the Marritte, he's just went to knockouted once, as John Walsh he resalted in the interview, he just came up a biter, but just as a little bit of

calteed as a little and he's guys that are the men, he's done,

he went a ball that he went to when I asked you know, I asked that he's that he

got more in the alge of his career of his he has, that he has, that he has, that he has, that he has

been, he's just being the general while the he's been that he did he just that the

car is, you think the Maretta you know more on your heart, and maybe from the

front, be a decadence even more? I think difficult to say this, Guy,

because the Marita was living a great phase when the knockout, or the Blashovitz who wrote to

the champion, he disclosed a lot of a lot of a lot of people, a lot of John Jones,

but he passed up with a surgery in the job, so it's very delicate to know

to know that he will, if he's in decadence, if he will be to get to get to recover. I think it's difficult to crava this thing of

Alge. I think, as well, I even said, Rhytimes of a lot voter. After a surgery, I think Marreta no possible to solacea still to hold the game even, and I think that's against Johnny O'Nocker was a great test. Maybe, before this battle, we can't even talk to,

I think that's that kind of the Maretta, it was that kind of he will have to do some space to go back to try, try career of a other way to try the other

times, try to get to the time and try to get to be able to get some a set. If the Marretta

not even a good a good for a good for point, knockout, finalization, whatever thing,

we can, analyzing the the tosses to Marrita, we can crava this. But I I think we

need this this Lutta with John Walker again, with a rhythm of the consequence of

the lutes to say if he said he if he's if he did he It's difficult to say that he will

get to the out of the time, that he came not to be a knockout, segued, that thing, really hype,

then he got the Korean, son, he was, then he got him, and then he got to be able to then he's up to

a lot of a lot of the top of the division, not that's to be a guy perigose, man,

not even to say that he's going to start to get to get to the house, it's very

difficult to crava a thing this. It's we've seen now in the last

the night, what the Ryan Spann did against the Anturysmith? He took a most passada of car. And the John O'Connor came to take a shust against him. But we'll part here to the part final

of our podcast, to call now the interview with Marcus Boucher, that when I started with him, he was still in in Florida,

now just to start in Singapore, to finally make the start of him M.A. The other side of the

line, we have Marks Bouchecha, Lenda, the Jiu-GITZ that's finally doing the first of the Streya

in M.A. car, are happy to to finally to put this little bit of a little bit to get a

thing, that's a whole thing, it's a whole lot of time, yeah, say,

good time, yeah, it's, it's time, for this, to happen to this, this,

this is a time, but finally, after a year training, yeah, to have signed the contract

with one, it's, so, I'm Marradown, trained this one and I've interesting of the new sport,

which is a new sport, so I'm a madradown, I'm loco to go there, to show what I've trained, and let's go, but the transition, the first time you said, the first time you said,

you know, was, you know, was, you know, was, you know, that you had to train in the Akiy, a Kain Velas, a,

so it's a lot for a lot of, so, why did you get to the paper, this, to battle, the marpola, well,

I'm, I'm ready to, I'm sure, M.A? No, then, in fact, it was 2013, it was the first first time

I took the contact with there, that I went to train the wrestling because I wanted to

train with, with a design of wrestling, I went to D.C., with Kain, for cause

of this connection that I had with Leandro Vierra, his mom of Leohsino, my

technique that was training there, was so I came going there the first I,

training a a lot wrestling, but until then, I had been much a want to be because I was having to

have been to get my first world, but I knew it was a moment good, because all were

coming in the career, not, no, no, nobody was, I opted for continue in

Jiu-Jitsu, I was training to DCC, I could get a DCC of 2013,

and then I continued, I, and I, I'd be much there, to train with the

the whole, but initially I went in 2015, to do you, know, to do you get me mached by

me, lesioning in the world, and the plans were all done and I

decided to me recuperer, to look more than not so I wanted to so I

would be a world planned I would have in 2015 eight titles

world if I would have a period and that

that did completely my plans and I decided that

not was like I wanted to to be to be from a market of the gymas

where I always always I'm sure and I'm celebrating I'm going to dojuts, I promised to

me even because I would be that way I'd be disped in the sport I

I'm going in 2016 motivated for 2017 that he left 2018 19

and I I'm I'm no, it's no, it's not now.

I'm not more record of nobody that I want to I'm more to better for me myself

to let's I mean, like, Bater my proper record, and then it was, I got my first title,

the other were so a question what I was really, I'm feeling well, I'm still still motivated, and I think now,

the year, no end of the pandemic, it's a moment, because I, want to know, there, no,

it's not much more than my life, if I'm more more than, I'm going to get more,

to prove what I have to prove, what I'm to prove in something, for me even, and

decided. So, basically, it demuror much to start in MMA, because you're good to be if you were

if you were not in the world, you'd have been in this transition right. It's difficult

parer, never, let me say, start, going to be very difficult, but I could,

I can't end up my career gaining a absolute, so, I think, and in

the middle of this pandemic, a year, a year, so I think was in a moment

perfect for me, in question, time, time, and situation, I think was in a moment

right. Now, there's time there, I don't want to be the current, I'm still the world,

so no- not- not-old- no-rolet- not. So I'm the actual still at all.

I don't remember what was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was,

it was, you've got a, the transition to M.A. I'm just even thinking in canceling

this, this transition because the proposals in M.A. not were not,

not, financially, you did story, you're going to go to the jiu-jitsu, and you'll do that your own comfort and take a porrida in the car, have to value much a pen financially also, that's a lot, you know,

pagament for, for lute, you gain for seminars and many of other things. Chigua roll this this, this, this, uh, this, uh, this, uh, this other than this time, because financially not, not, not, not, I was justificing the offers you were receiving, uh, initially. Yeah, because, initially I, I was

treated as, as, as, um, as well, as one, like, I said, I'm not I'm not so I'm not my sport, I think to have a good point in my sport, I think,

I've been to be so, for this that I disanimed much, but it was an event, that they did the paper of their own,

even said, yeah, what we're doing what we offer is a lot, it's a lot but for me not,

no, no, but it's all right, and it's, and it made a disanimated. And I

It's just I said, I said, I'll continue in Jiu-Git's, I'm focused. I don't want to go too, I don't want to be, I'm doing the thing right or not, so for that I'm having in Jiu-Git's.

What was an event that made this proposition that didn't agrounder? Ah, in the time, were the great events, but, were just

only only the only conversations, so, so I, I, no, I, did enter

as, like, Not that not that's not that's I think for I did it

I did in a sport I would be a lot better than a good good for you know,

you're not a guy who does all the way you know, you have a three times the champion

World Jujitsu not it's, nobody who didn't get this effect you know

you're sure MMA other but Jiujitsu is a base is one of

the MMA and you enter in an other patamarr yeah and

and in the time not It was 13 still, right, titles.

So, there were, some I remember exactly how many, if it were six, if it were,

but I'm a little little thing. But it's not a 13, so I think different

of now, the moment that was 13 titles Guinness the major champion of the

story of sport, so it was different. Six was good, but 13 much better.

And then after all these years, preparing to this moment now that is the show in MMA. What faxed you would

do in MMA? It's difficult to say, a new sport, but the people say that I have better and I've got a

grow little bit more a growlion in the trains, so I'm I'm getting bettering, that blue encardid,

we'll say almost a roach. Almost a roach. Ah, of a repent, almost a roach

what they're there, so I'm don't think to believe in the people. That's just

A great A great partner in the time The Jiu-Gitzo You said various championships in the time He did this

transition much before He went to Pofi, today today is there in final for a million

of dollars in the FFL You still got to get been in the time he grew and he started to

get a success in the Tuft and he would be I'd be able to be around

he and be very sincere no and when he when he said to

I'm I'm I'm I'm you're precipitant you're poor,

you're know, he's a final of absolute there, you know to be

to be a champion world but he didn't he's he's he

was I'm I'm was but I'm but he's put three

luts he he went he was he was really

the man was right he when he's decided

something he he he he he he I didn't

I don't me atentee so, not I'm with a want to be in very good in Jiu-Jitz

so I'm say I'm know, I'm still, he's been in the time for him, but I

think it's very much I'm very experience. And years after, he, was one of

the Raphael Chavez who is a great friend my, like if was my

brother, more than they're not over to come to come to come to come

to come to be that I resolved me to move. For a signal, I'm

still living in the house of a car of a lot of my so I'm to get a

little bit of me. Demoree a little but I'm going to but it's being good

because I had been to stop to train Jiu-Jitsu and to try the M. A,

and a error that I didn't commit to get to many other other Jiu-S doing this

starting to MMA focusing too trying to try and trying to try to try to

try the Even if, I, I, I've finished the whole entire, I trained with him. So, it was one of the motives that I said, I said, well, I'm going to try with this guy

every day, will be very good for me. So, along the M.MA, that he was experienced, and I will learn much with him too. So,

po, it's many of many, many otheries of fash, not, but many of the lot of the majority of the

black, so the trainer is much better than I imagined of the jujitsu, the wrestling, the striking. So,

I, in the beginning, I, I'm sure I really to accept the transition of the move to

California, Florida but it was the final of the final of the first was the decision that I did in relation to

the team and the local I'm a little little bit more my master, but I'm going to go to California now, for

example, no moment he's to be here and have me accompanied in this rata final there, but

I'm trying with Katel Cubs with, because from the first day that I came back

I've been been taught me me ensnado much pass a pass all the Maitai, the Vettai, the

Vettano, with Steve Moko, which is my principal of technical of wrestling, the King Mour, there's a guy also the macarrow, the American,

Fabio Rocco, the guy of Bokester, the Pitu, who's there now, the people, there's a person, my preparator

physical, Diego Lacerda. There's a guy very good here that I have an opportunity to train and it's being

incredible for me. You got to see some type bike, because you said, you said, The academy is full of

of Fashapet and Jiu-Jitsu, if you'd if you'd if you'd go to the Jiu-GITS, you'd probably would pass the car,

because you have this level of the great majority of mortals in the area of Jiu-S, but you're

training with a louvina with M.A. Sengimono, other regas, you, if some day came up,

I thought, I, I thought that my Jiu-Gitso was to be me, me, to make

a vantage more more about these people, than you're putting in the reality. Did you have to have some shock in this

sense? The first four months were exactly this shock, because it's a sport, I've been with my Jiu-Sit-Soo, I don't

functioned, poe, Jiu-Sit-Su is horrible, but no, because it's different, not the the people who go to Jiu-Tits, I think will

put it to go back to back, it is different. I remember that I'd put down to the guy would be in

the back, and would be in the back the back the car was in the way, it was,

so, it was, very frusent positions that I don't lose in any of the trans Jiu-SITS, I'd start

to lose to get a dayarily frustrate much in the beginning, I'm horrible but Jiu-JITS is horrible

but it's a question of adaptation and I'm really a guy defends different the reactions are different

of that that's a climate of competition of Jiu-S but the first was a very frustrating

in the beginning in America Top Team, also because I wanted to train strong,

I'd do my good, it would be a lot of a bit of I'd take a point

in the super sylio, then I'm above the eye, then I'm the foot, this not

it's not for me this then, but it was just in the first year, I'm

and I'm after I'm sure I thank you God but the first the first

was very different so for me. You inspired in someone who made

this Jujits, before you someone that you see a single? Ah, many,

uh, the proper guy of the chapato, Fabrice Verdun, who the guy got a

DCC the Worldial and the title of FEC, Charles of Bronx, who also

was a last of Guarujan, you always was a finalizer, Natto, the durin the same

generation that I saw the Durin' I've been the Durin even, I, I've,

and did the transition very very well also. Rodolfo Vieira, who was my major rival

in Jiu-Jitsu, and I've he did the first a first time of his first to get to the M.M.A.

to get to the F.C. today. So, and many others, Demi, Maya,

P, didn't say, to say, one of the major inspirations, because I

use the Jiu-Gitz with a maestria, so, and he's always trained very with the

Leo-Vierra too. I I like really of the game, the

game like I've seen a game that I'm in a jacar-a so all

these names of Jujits that did the things that I inspired

to look to look to and have an inspiration to have some

that you did you see to be a example to be not

to be a example of not be seen but were many those guys the

people are the people were talking in foot, so, I don't want to do this, but then, but before

when, it's different, because I think it's a little bit, it's a lot, people, who, people, can't try to try to try and try, it's difficult, but, boy, it's , it's hard to put up to back, and no, the guy to defend it, so

you can't have to be comfortable in par, so, not see, the non- not-s-segived, I think, I think, both, my, for example, the, the trocation of Charles, But how I'll say that the car not

the guy not is a bit, the guy finalizer and he troca well, so, overdoom, always was very very confident in-pair, in-pair, no,

in strike, so I think all they did with a mastery, this right, the proper Rodolf, now,

he's more more comfortable, no, in the car of the car of the chapato, so,

not see, not be seen not, not, not, you've been the, Roger Greys,

but he, I, I've talked with him recently, he discarded the idea of doing to doodle of the idea of doing to doxie to do you guys to do you know,

in a certain of a way you lamented maybe not, not you're not not going to be two ruts of jiugits and two of times in Metamores and

here in Rio or maybe you in MMA or maybe you want to be in front atletes of other modalities and not just

focus on this thing to do this thing to do youjits. No, no never, never, never,

never, Roger, to do you know, who was my rival in the Jiu-Jitz not in the M.A. Something that never passed by my

head in my case, I think if it was to have some something to have a thing with Roger, I think it would have the third of kimono,

because he, he, clear, one, me finalized was better, the first, despite of not have been

points, I came being better than in the lute, despite have been a impasse, and it was kind of

faulting there a third a lot I think it would

I'm that it would be a thing for the but I think it

I think that I think he's not that you know he's he's he's

he's not see the in I look to with him in the MMA

so even because he was a category of the lot of a lot of pes

pesed but but never passed by my a head

that's another name that's a little bit a lot of the lot of the lot of he's done

that you're not even if he will be able to himmia if he's going to be they've been they've done

this but he said he said he he said he's like he has to he has everything he has

he has he has a movie of the type of he has the age of the MMA maybe you

think he he can't be able to maybe he not a sport different not a grappling

not Jiu-N So the only way to know this is to go there and be doing, which is what I'm doing, so it's difficult

to be talking that's going to be, and it's not, so, without a really, do the case

to talk about, it's very easy, to say, and, so, so, I'd always go,

I'd say, I'm, I'm going to try, I'm a test that I want to do, I want to

do, I'm going to do the cage, so, but if he were, to do that I think it's with

it's difficult to keep talking it was difficult to take a soco in the car? Ah, I'm saying to say that

goes to soko in the car is a minute, but it's, but I'm saying that I said that you

see if you have a heart really, Jijits I know that I've always I never

never to ever or not that's going to know, no MMA is doing sparring

there, the guy you back a bit more more than you can get a

bit over it's So, it's, it's, it's got that I got to gostee, the sport, too, the trotation,

the parada of the sparring, that's different. In the beginning, was more difficult, but now I'm adapting more, clearly, there's much to be better,

than I was, in relation to this, no, the first was, it was very difficult there, I remember that all the sparrho

I was with a heart of a bad, but, but, all the world said that was all the same,

it was normal, no, the guy, he gets a- 12, So it's very difficult to say. So I'd take a lot of the heart of the head, really.

But as far as, I started to get a distance, and not to take less golf, I think it's better more. I don't think more this. If I was in the first year I'd feel like to see this, it's just, it's been more

competing, not. But then it passed rapidly this, but it was a preoccupation that I had very much in the first. You had 13 titles Worldials in Jiu-Jitsu, is with 31 years now doing this year-in-M-A, what your objective? It's

to enter in this first round, see what is the sport, is to do career long, and get to a truce of a centuron, is to do you, doltes, do you? What dochechechequer in MMA, specifically? So, it's a question, it makes a lot of

but I, like in Jiu-Gitz, when I was a façadee, I'd say, what was your son? I, you're a championer in a façade? No, my son is to be a champion World's World's a new

what's your dream now my dream to go to my main stray and I'm a new thing is a

thing that's Get there, do all right, neither you, or you, or you know, or you, or you're,

there's a day before the last, the last time, the other times are the time we're not we're

not, now we're we have to have been, so, until this happen, and,

I don't consider the last, I'm not, so I think it's a pass, and I just will think

on the second pass, after I, that I, that I, that I, that is this this

extraia. This era was a little Zika you know you're you're for the

year of the year of the first of the Korean Ji Wangang then he went to Thomas

Norme recently and now a few days before the last time the last time

the lot of the battle grep strike yeah there's

experience in the lot of the lot is more the difficult compared to the

other adversaries uh... for me all the So continue with that difficulty I'm going to continue with the same attention

with the same care of the same and I think no moved nothing in relation to this. But it was it was an African

and moved to an Asianate with European and poor they were the Andrews Braddock who was a

man who I know he experienced and much a guy is a good people who I don't

want to I'd like a I'm even more my company was my it's something I don't I'm going to choose, I

say, Ali, resolve this he, he went, conversed, conversed, the name came, so it was the name that came out of the time, and let's go-the-trable,

but, with the question, if I could ask you, I would be a Brazilian, in the start. But, but,

let's do you know, how you think you think you think you're very obvious, you know, you want to

wincee finalizing, but there this thing, po, that the thing is, that the start is finalizing,

or is of a way specific, or your bra so the brace up at this first

this first is what important. You said said all all the thing the end of

the end up the objective final, with certainty no matter how that comes this victory

but but, but, it's not important being victorious is what

what will tell to be done to be made, was made, but the objective

final is that's that's try with the arm to be we're

going, no It's important. The one, he has a scheme of a piece of different, you're a pesero-pessed if you were in an event in America,

you would be able to beas too low and three kilos? First time that I said to look at M.M.A. The Lelzian, I never got to be that 9.3.

I said, oh, Lerlis. I'm peasey on 1015 kilos, so, 23 kilos, for me, it's impossible. Fala for me that I have to have a

Keto preto, just to say, just to say, that I have to lose, so to say that I don't have a possibility,

five kilos to the top of the category, which is 120, so it doesn't make any sense of any of 10,000, to get more than 20 kilos to to batte 9.3, and to get to, with the guy who's

the amount so pesed as well, I think doesn't make much sense. I'm with many people in the category of the back, and train the side of the same, and the difficulty

is practically the same, the question of force, a piece of the man, me I'm feeling in the peso, no, the peso, and I'm being rapid for my

peso, since the Jujit always was so, I was so, I felt like to get a lot of no, I'm going to get a lot more

doing a diet, it was horrible, so it was a experience that I want to get again. No, there's a

bad, if you're going in the weight of the heavy, no time, no time no matter.

Yeah, I see even, po, many people who get the person of the

he, po, food, and get there, I'd, I'd, and, po, I'd

do you know, the end of the body, you'd be in the second and the third, I'd do not was that

power, it'd be a little, and now, I've seen the eating well, since restriation of food,

of the food, of food, of the food, but in relation to the weight,

the difference, the first, the second, the third round, the last, the third round, he was a,

It's very better than the first so, the experience of the other I'll cover, yeah, no,

really for me not to do get a certain, I think I'd feel really a lot, could even do you get

well, but then it would be going to be really a grappling, that's very not a lot of not.

Disnecessary me, the pop kit would be to be to be your time there,

but you would be a career in the vestp to embark to the last year

finally will happen will happen. A boast in the the week next year

I'm a rebenta in this lute yeah, imagine for a pleasure there's a

time of Jiu-Jits in the Pache Marrong we have a question there and I'm a lot of interviews,

and it's good there remember those old times but now just a little a little

sport but the objective is always the same the time time we're just we're

here here so you're working with me the revictus Tateam where we talked about

too of Jiu-Jitsu, along of MMA, we've discovered a career of Boucher in Pano. What is the

expectation of him to do you know he's a guy you have, you have a hope, you have been in a M.A.

after the time, so he's a time, it's a thing, the business of Boucher was a

thing that we always had always been to get to MNA, when is you go to MNA, when you're going to get to MN,

but I'm going to come with a time, we'll be great this his straighter because he

did a intercombe legal of academies in the States he passed for some some other he trained a lot of

a UK with Kornier with Rokh Roweig, with Velas this rapacea that's a

rapacea there, then he also he's a little Krodeer and he

fixed on the ATT there's a material human gigantic there's much

lot of so I think he did a good to have this strategy yeah

I'm I'm my expectation he's a MMA he is a

MMA that is a a guy who's a guy roded. Maybe there's a one a pretty lot very complicated for the Boucherce. Maybe he could get a frango there,

a guy just for he did a batty. He who had several adversaries canceled, no, the other than a lot of the

two years. I think it was some three, yeah, to finish with Baudot. But I think it a test

difficult for him in a first but I'm a lot, but I'm a man, he's just can be a good, if he

had a trocalusk could survive some attacks. I think he he might he possibly he can't be good, he has dispels to commentaries

a guy who's a guy who's got to put up to get to get a lot of he's been very he's going to know,

he's going to be a little the same way the same way of Rodolfo I think he will be very devalgae

he's going to use good, he's not there's a part of the moment that he he was evolving

and he was a part in person he was going to be a bigosos I think he has been

a lot of he's something he did the jujits but Jujit, he gave, for 13 championships

world in the world one of the ones of the times, he can't be in MMA if he can't make a MMA,

if he could get a job is a thing, the cretta of Jiu-Sidt get in a real, receoose, and to take

a soco in the case, if he could be to adapt to these factors, I think he can make a success in MMA.

It's true, you set the Rodolf, we always we always to look parallels to,

what we can't to expect of a lotator when does a transition of the Jurytsof M.A. We have, before he had before I was going to be able to the M.M.A. You'd imagineable that he had the style perfect for a Luzzi M.A.

Because he had a game of pressure, like a wrestler, maybe, to put him to get to a barquee. While he was he had that jubiscerer more fluid, more more solto. So I don't know how the jujitsu of Boechechecha will be adapt to the MMA. We'll have this response on the 6thfea, but as you

said, after after a different of the time, for me, it's a

poor game of his first of him. He would be in him in M.A

against Omar Keng, the Rugeh Hugh, I adore this lot of the

person, he's a figuresa, he is a bad for a cacet, but he

not a great lot of M. He's also, he Hong Kang,

he also also not a M. Then he also, he passed to Thomas

Marmo, that this is a frangasso. The the luna before he was a lot of a little bit of

a trucush was a trucused it was a porra so it was it was a per big to be a guy that not so-be

so-and-a-and- the brad-doch who is a guy that has a experience absurd in the world in-pe in-peak, in-n, he

has done many l'n in the regas in the gegas of kick-boxing and, and also, there has experience

M.A. He did part the tuffe to try a vaguen-o never-o-o-o- he was It's got to

a level of being in a tufe, and there's this experience, passed for a, for a reality show training all day, being observed. So it was

the Boucher, that's from 2015, 2016, namorando this migration to a majoration, training in various

academies, did a pre-cabble, but we'll have the response of how it will be the show

of his time. I don't see in conditions to do make the paltice, because we don't know what the level of the troika

if he can't take a sock on the car, how he will react to a try? How he will react he's a altissimo level, to set up a car to his. He will be to go over, he will recouping, and will marcia? How is the reaction of his reaction of it? So, I sincerely, I'll, lave my hands here,

I open the mouth of doing, me recuse to do a palpite to do, to do this other, because we don't do to pre-vear with a base in nothing. We don't know what to do. The Bochecha, he is incredible on the ground, how the Braddock is good in-pe. So, who is going to continue to pull the

game? The war, the battle in paris. Is it going to put it by back? He said in an interview, that he had a shock of reality, training in M.MA, that he started to question the proper jujitsu, because he not could not have made the transition to M.M.A. Because

M.M.A. is very different of jujit. You discord of me? You can't get your ball of crystal and push a palpit for this you have courage to do you have your time? No, Guy, I'm

I'm talking to for you, it's not impossible to have a palpite over bochechechea because we don't have no parameter you know,

as you said, we don't know how it's been the bocheiceice we don't see no one of the we've seen any of the MMA

if maybe if you were in a TET there, oh, go, we're going to see how he's how,

oh, no, it's been to be coming to back up, you're doing to be able, it's being in

it's So it's difficult to crava how it will be. We've seen even the image of Bushshed at least. Bochette is training with Catel Cubes there in AET, who is a specialist in-p-peer, trainer Amanda Nunes, many people there.

So it's a good signal. It's circled to good trainers for this train, but it's impossible to say, how much it. And that's a thing, the Jiu-Jitsu, of Pana is different in MMA, yeah.

It's not that thing, in Jiu-Jitsu, the guys kind of, going to, it's kind of, it's a bit instantane. In MMA, against the mostache, all of the question of all, he'll have to do

make a effort, he will have to make a a break, to try a braillead, to not have a brawlower, and he'll go to knockoutia. So, there's to take much care of much of course. He has to pay attention to in many things that he didn't

pay attention to Jiu-Gitza. In M.MA. It's a lot of a goal that could enter, a moorailer, a soco, a defense of a key-dead, a lot more well-befeited. Because there, there, there a great, there's a big, there's a grave, there

and it's difficult the guy to derobar it. So it's very difficult do a

palpid about this strashth and we have to imagine, how we imagine, we can't

be the jujitsu of Boucher this transition, and I imagine, I imagine, I know a guy of a jusits

to him as a man, who's a good jihits too refinated, that's very soft in the positions.

I imagine if Buccecea see this line of Verdin that would be that been, that the Verdun came

in the MMA there's also using much the Jiu-Gitz and it's a very, he's a lot too big, he's

a lot of a guy too maybe he's gonna be a bit in this transition and for MMA. But you value to remember

that the M.A. in 2002 and it demuror-muched to get to this level of this

level of this level of he has a strikeer of excellence, no-kaltio Mark-Hant with juilliard

and all but-o- but the Bushish is that has 31 years. If he were demurr, the

has 20 years of career. He will be at the 50, but we're going to we'll have to we'll have to see a week

to start to come to bring to bring up a future, what we can expect from the Bouchiechie in the M.A.

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