MMA Fighting - Trocação Franca | Thiago Marreta, Gregory Robocop e Carlos Prates

Episode Date: February 7, 2024

Thiago Marreta abre o jogo sobre o caso de doping na PFL, o desafio com Yoel Romero na Arábia Saudita e as chances de seus ex-rivais Jamahal Hill e Magomed Ankalaev contra Alex Poatan. O Trocação F...ranca ainda conversa com Carlos Prates sobre as mais de 100 lutas de kickboxing que fez antes de focar no MMA, e Gregory Robocop a uma vitória de desafiar um rankeado no UFC. O melhor do MMA brasileiro no Trocação Franca, toda semana, com o jornalista Guilherme Cruz e convidados. Thiago Santos opens up about his doping suspension, fighting Yoel Romero in Saudi Arabia, and the odds of former rivals Jamahal Hill and Magomed Ankalaev dethroning Alex Pereira. Trocação Franca also chats with UFC Vegas 86 fighters Carlos Prates, who discusses fighting more than 100 kickboxing bouts before fully committing to MMA, and Gregory Rodrigues, who meets Brad Tavares in what he hopes is his final bout before challenging a ranked middleweight. Listen to Trocação Franca with Guilherme Cruz every week to hear from the biggest names on the hottest topics in the Brazilian combat sports world. Follow Guilherme Cruz: @Guicruzzz Subscribe to MMA Fighting Check out our full video catalog Like MMA Fighting on Facebook Follow on Twitter Read More: http://www.mmafighting.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:47 of podcast Trocaation Franca and representing the M.M.A. Fighting in Brazil, Guillermo
Starting point is 00:01:55 Cruz! Hello, lo, lo, a friend of the lot of 26th episode of the podcast Trocafranca,
Starting point is 00:02:16 a your house about this MMA in this MNSA about the sphere. I'm
Starting point is 00:02:20 Glehrhrase Correspondent of the website American, M. M.A. Fahe.
Starting point is 00:02:24 I'm to return this summer in the company of Tiago Marretta ex-difiant to the
Starting point is 00:02:28 cinturon to the first of the game about the case of the top of the
Starting point is 00:02:33 challenge with the final of the month in Arabia Saudi and the chances
Starting point is 00:02:37 he does his rival Rew and Malhe Maw against Alix
Starting point is 00:02:41 Potton for the title on the other there
Starting point is 00:02:50 there's there there on the year in the February
Starting point is 00:02:53 in front you Rowe Romer in the return
Starting point is 00:02:55 in the A lot that nobody knew that she'd be announced, and there's all to be spectacular. So I'd first, me, I'd say to
Starting point is 00:03:02 how he's trying expectative to this old and a man who's part of America Top Team. You know, you've got to
Starting point is 00:03:07 have this relationship, but how much the expectation of this challenge? Well, the spectator are the ones
Starting point is 00:03:13 guys, very happy in being to be back. It's a lot that I was advised me in the time
Starting point is 00:03:19 in the time, not, like, like, short-pras, like, two
Starting point is 00:03:24 a week of the night, but not was a lot of the other one of the officer of his got to make sure a lot, I'm afraid of I'll accept it. I'm very happy
Starting point is 00:03:34 for the opportunity to be doing part of this great event, that will open the year to the NFL and I'm doing it,
Starting point is 00:03:42 and even more in front of Romero, which is a legend of this sport. I'm very very happy, we have
Starting point is 00:03:48 a, a relation good, we've trained a lot of many years since the first that I've used here in America
Starting point is 00:03:57 in America Top Team I've I'm going to some camps I went in the academy of him but it was six, seven years
Starting point is 00:04:06 ago and now we're here we're in the same category in the F.C. But right after I was soon I was
Starting point is 00:04:15 I never even to be with him but we're very happy for the opportunity how is the relation with him and the
Starting point is 00:04:22 partner of the guy he was a guy a guy man, he was a guy more, the guy more
Starting point is 00:04:25 he's a guy more he's a kind of he like he's like a lot super people yeah,
Starting point is 00:04:33 yeah, every time that I went to be very, me, me, he's very
Starting point is 00:04:38 very, as a way, about it in the Florida, here in the shop, or something
Starting point is 00:04:43 he's always made, to come to come with me and he a guy
Starting point is 00:04:47 a man, a man, a family, a guy, a family, a guy, a guy, a family,
Starting point is 00:04:50 a guy, was, Sengue-bom-a-caram. And it's a job, let's do you do a job. Muda
Starting point is 00:04:55 a lot of someone that you've done to do some way, or it's a way,
Starting point is 00:05:02 how do you have this I don't know, if you have this experience before to have some
Starting point is 00:05:07 to find someone with who you've in various camps, so. No, I never
Starting point is 00:05:12 I've got with anyone so that I've tried, but there many years
Starting point is 00:05:17 back, I, I was It was just I had just to enter in the F.C. He was
Starting point is 00:05:22 a great star in the first event that he was the last event that he was the rab of the
Starting point is 00:05:31 group, opening the event so he was a great name. I was the I was the I was the
Starting point is 00:05:37 help of the trainingments so far much time from there to come to the last
Starting point is 00:05:43 we've evolved about we've been we're more old so no not to
Starting point is 00:05:48 try to try to do you don't the time the we're all Romero
Starting point is 00:05:55 always always he's this long time he's always preserved
Starting point is 00:06:01 much in the we never did a percent never did a
Starting point is 00:06:05 sparrer with him so much did you really a position a much training
Starting point is 00:06:12 directed so he so he's never did a sparring 100% of that I can't
Starting point is 00:06:18 try to something. So, no, no, no, it's not, I'm in
Starting point is 00:06:24 my, but in my vision of leg, I, me correct, if you're I'm
Starting point is 00:06:27 imagine, you'd be a, you'd be, a man there, the guy, batting,
Starting point is 00:06:33 but I, not, I'm, a, train in a , thing, maybe
Starting point is 00:06:36 maybe it's maybe maybe you'd maybe when you're being, the menusus,
Starting point is 00:06:41 and you not a poradaria of a sparr, or the contrast. I think in Sparring
Starting point is 00:06:44 you would you would help more to know to know in a lot? I don't
Starting point is 00:06:49 know, for me, I like more. The Sparring can't feel better. But it
Starting point is 00:06:56 is clear that in the Dries, we know the game the game of the positions
Starting point is 00:07:01 more more of that he got more to do and the times that he was
Starting point is 00:07:05 to do he lot of the he looked at the the so he
Starting point is 00:07:09 also the the the So, but this Lut, I think I think
Starting point is 00:07:16 no there's a wrestling that's a little, I like to try to try to times
Starting point is 00:07:21 but it's an wrestling Olympic, we can't discard this, and I'm a duel of
Starting point is 00:07:29 styles I'm a duel of a stil, but everyone knows that I'm a strong, I love to
Starting point is 00:07:36 keep a fight, I'm going to want to not going to try to wrestling with a
Starting point is 00:07:40 guy of a level Olymp, yeah, clear that we train of all right, he's trying to try in a
Starting point is 00:07:45 strike, I train in wrestling, but every one will try to do you do that way to see.
Starting point is 00:07:49 So, no, so the adversary original of he was a striker also,
Starting point is 00:07:54 or if he had to adapt to much with this other when you know,
Starting point is 00:07:56 the other was the wrestling, it was more wrestling, so I think he had
Starting point is 00:08:03 to move a little, I think he'd think, he'd even, he'd
Starting point is 00:08:09 is the guy that, you know, you can, you can't that he ends in this for this, to try to
Starting point is 00:08:14 try to put your to try to put your to go out of the car, or then call you know, and not let's you use your
Starting point is 00:08:19 your own your own your own, he's, he's a guy that he goes to a porrada, there's a
Starting point is 00:08:25 war, he's, there's, there's a mess up a mess up a mess, like,
Starting point is 00:08:29 but he's a guy, but he's a person, he's a part, he's not, he's,
Starting point is 00:08:35 he's, he's, he's, all night will try me to put me to put him to be able to
Starting point is 00:08:40 all the night not he's a really, he is a mann't a malandrash and he
Starting point is 00:08:47 goes to to try to also it's an kind of a guy constant but it's an
Starting point is 00:08:52 person I'm a man who's my trainer is a man who you have to be
Starting point is 00:08:57 to the five minutes of the final round because we've
Starting point is 00:09:01 seen in the last round he did a knockdown on the Russo there and he's got
Starting point is 00:09:08 for the over the russed there was a person he's a guy that he knows he
Starting point is 00:09:14 knows of his know the he's not very experienced and know and explode when he can explode
Starting point is 00:09:20 when I have to be the time in activity because he is explosive
Starting point is 00:09:26 he has to be a attack with more to make and at times he's in the
Starting point is 00:09:31 quater also try sometimes if it's if it's not he's right, he also is a guy who will be insisting
Starting point is 00:09:36 there much. Uh-huh. It's what you Paul-Neh, because two seven nocauts that he had
Starting point is 00:09:43 in the FC six were in the third round and the two of the ballator, he's a he's a
Starting point is 00:09:48 guy that you can't be a chance that's a chance is a man of the final of the
Starting point is 00:09:53 lot, he's always he has always he has been that he has been there's
Starting point is 00:09:58 not a not the idea of his not, you know, he can't he can't surprise
Starting point is 00:10:02 he can't in the last second, so you have to be alerted until the final of the end up during, yeah, of course. How is you think the
Starting point is 00:10:08 fight? I'm not, I'm going to my head in my my head, I need to go to make he can't
Starting point is 00:10:16 keep it's a car la air, it was so that I perjid with some of the role of Romero. He don't
Starting point is 00:10:23 he not he don't be really to end up the lot after he's he's a guy, he
Starting point is 00:10:26 will be getting a legger, doing a pinion on the and he and so, explode
Starting point is 00:10:31 a little and when and leave a lute in over a-o-o-o- and let you and let's
Starting point is 00:10:37 leave it so I don't keep a little to put a pressure on the I need to put a pressure
Starting point is 00:10:45 as a good example as a last last a lot of him with Russo that did
Starting point is 00:10:49 the camp here puttour put up pressure, went to front, so this is
Starting point is 00:10:55 the plan of the plan to the plan for the because we know that we're going to have this event special and then before it's the time period of the
Starting point is 00:11:03 PFR. You're not confirmed in the time of the year? How are you negotiating in this sense, after this look? No, no, no there's nothing yet, as I, like I said, no, this, I didn't even
Starting point is 00:11:16 negotiating, because still was a lot more confused about the compa of Belator he was armed and everything. They cut out of a galera and were organizing the cards during the year
Starting point is 00:11:30 and I don't have a previso to not have been to look at this card even and we're going
Starting point is 00:11:35 if I went to go to the tournament in the then it's a opportunity of this
Starting point is 00:11:41 the opportunity of this the I said no I want I'm I'm going to get this
Starting point is 00:11:49 after this after this will be this I don't know I want to make a good victory
Starting point is 00:11:53 and then to be ready for what they're for To the tournament, I'm in, that we're going to
Starting point is 00:12:00 to offer me to offer a other great lute, now with a junction, there's great names there
Starting point is 00:12:05 to do to make great lot, and now will be a lot of so I
Starting point is 00:12:10 want to be working, and maintain working working working on this year. For you, for you,
Starting point is 00:12:17 for the 40 years, it's more interesting, end to an tournament that you
Starting point is 00:12:21 know, you know, four, five luts after the end of the end
Starting point is 00:12:25 better enter in the lot of special in these events of the BFL
Starting point is 00:12:32 or even in the event of the Bellator, these internationales that are doing.
Starting point is 00:12:37 The two me interest, you know, so the tournament, a million of dollars to be a
Starting point is 00:12:44 champion, but also in great names now, a lot that me interested
Starting point is 00:12:48 a lot really a revenge against Mousache so, So there are great names, veterans,
Starting point is 00:12:56 also, that's really interesting. And I would like, and the public, I'm sure that, as soon as the public got a lot of about the
Starting point is 00:13:02 family, they'd also of the other those luts, like the Mousache. So the two can't be interested, I want to
Starting point is 00:13:11 this victory, make a lot good, to conquest a good victory, and then it's done to see what
Starting point is 00:13:19 they're going to offerce. And, you were going to do you, year in the year after, after that's
Starting point is 00:13:24 after FFL, but it was cancelled, for cause of Dobe and what was, how was that that's actually what happened
Starting point is 00:13:30 and you got to get a gunch for you just to go back this year? Yeah, this is a
Starting point is 00:13:37 I, I committed, I confi- no, a doctor, and I was no medical, I was in a
Starting point is 00:13:45 person, I never took me nothing, and I took the jacket of the jacket of all-zada
Starting point is 00:13:50 and all. And I Conversed with the doctor, I could have some something that could be able to me help, I've got to be able to do a supplement and he said, no, he's no problem, this is a supplement, no, car, no, Zada, no, no, and I confere in the car, never,
Starting point is 00:14:06 and I'm not, and I procured to know, the guy, I'm a medic, to take, and I became very surprised when I was a PEO, you know, I? It was a very surprised. Never negated for the Usada. What I'm talking about here was what I'm saying, oh, I'm saying, I'm, so me, I'm this here,
Starting point is 00:14:22 is here the prescription the medical, the medical, the medical me gave, me received, me said that not, don't,
Starting point is 00:14:27 don't try the problem for me, and I'm here, I'm here now in this merda. The usada
Starting point is 00:14:34 don't care, what you put on your cause, the responsibility your, and really is so,
Starting point is 00:14:40 it's so, uh, unfortunately, but they did the minimum that is the minimum, the minimum
Starting point is 00:14:45 possible, that were what they were what they're what they're , they don't have no
Starting point is 00:14:49 it's, so six months, it's a minimum. So, unfortunately, it's what is. So it was a
Starting point is 00:14:56 thing we're a lot that we have a question and it's a lot of no matter of testosterone, nothing of this
Starting point is 00:15:06 so I have a concern that was not to be to be a time when I came I said I said,
Starting point is 00:15:13 I said then then to then I'm saying, you know, you're saying, no, can be test
Starting point is 00:15:19 to do what, I don't take me nothing that could me, me, to help and all.
Starting point is 00:15:25 And it was that. My opponent was peo with testosterone. He said, a lot of of the
Starting point is 00:15:30 mess with me, and he really more than he really, he really was per with testosterone. Infin,
Starting point is 00:15:36 it's it. It was a I'm who I committed, for confi in other people,
Starting point is 00:15:40 but it's what it passed on. Be Beyes. So, so to just to just to
Starting point is 00:15:46 be your last the last was the Jamal Hill, that now is talking
Starting point is 00:15:50 about him to get him to the ex-Otank, you know, he's in front him in front him in octagon
Starting point is 00:15:57 you think that he has chance to shirar the centuron of the Brazilian? How can't
Starting point is 00:16:03 the of all of the two of the lot of a lot more for the Potan
Starting point is 00:16:09 didn't not a lot of farce Jamal Rio is very very but
Starting point is 00:16:14 but of other casements like Calave the other Chechchchino there are the ones who are
Starting point is 00:16:23 the guys who are trying to get the Poitam to put up to back we'll try the Jamal Hill is a duro it can't surprise the Poitan
Starting point is 00:16:30 but it's a style of a joke that casas to Poitan so styles do you think it's the best style
Starting point is 00:16:36 for Poitan I believe that the Jamal Hill can be surprised but it in par yeah
Starting point is 00:16:44 the Poatan is okay of a lot of a lot is very great. It's difficult. I think it's difficult. Now we're going to see a fight week and bathe a talk with Carlos Pratius and Gregory with Robocop, that lute on Saturday on UFC Vegas-8-6. The interviews comemerce, just after a rapid interval commercial. Defenders and cybersecurity are always there when we need them.
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Starting point is 00:18:18 The downloaded two Ghosts in the Machine Available now, only from Audible. On the other side of the line, we have Carlos, we have seen on this Saturday on a FC, contraving Giles, but before about about this lute, I'd
Starting point is 00:18:43 talk about your career, because, po, by what I've seen, you've had more than seven luts of Muitas, of kickbox, in the postes how is your trajectory until getting in this moment to be on the main the M.A.
Starting point is 00:18:58 Poh, it was a quite a lot of there. But I started with 16 years,
Starting point is 00:19:06 I started 15 years, I started in Waithai here in Brazil and I trained with my professor
Starting point is 00:19:12 Chris, he's like my professor, my father. And, and I I, I'm,
Starting point is 00:19:17 I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, but I'm in MMA in 2012, if I
Starting point is 00:19:23 don't me in the end of 2011. And I'd like MMA, but also lot about Maitai. Then it was a time that I resolved to Thailand, so, and I I'm there, man.
Starting point is 00:19:33 I'm there, I'm going, and going and going, but, like, I'd and go back, but, like, I'd to come to back just to visit the people, my mom. And in this period, I did much a lot, because there, like, you, you know, you don't have a patrocine,
Starting point is 00:19:48 you don't have other tramp, and you have to do you, to pay your house, for you pay, food, So it was a period of my life that I did my own much a lot
Starting point is 00:19:58 me agreged because me ensured to to be free in the hour of the lot like not not get much
Starting point is 00:20:05 like I'm like I'm consider I consider very calm very free not I'm not I'm nervous in the
Starting point is 00:20:11 lot of the kind of with that kind of with that but just more one once that I
Starting point is 00:20:17 go there I'm going there was the part positive so of the
Starting point is 00:20:20 there's the lot there's a lot of It's a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of
Starting point is 00:20:26 it's a kind of saturated, like you get a academy, of these things like, but I
Starting point is 00:20:33 got over I've got people, I've got to get to my life to my life until today
Starting point is 00:20:37 my my game, the game today that I use in MMA is a very
Starting point is 00:20:43 very very very with the mentality with the methodology of Maitai
Starting point is 00:20:48 that is just always make to makech-mach and makech-ach-mach- and make-s to juste. So,
Starting point is 00:20:53 p, I'm agregor it's a lot, and it's this, car. I'm in this correa, I've been 16 years. There's a period that I'm like,
Starting point is 00:21:03 I tried me to be afastar I, I thought in the military and stuff, but the MMA always was going,
Starting point is 00:21:10 going, and I'm going, and I'm going, in the main event of the world. When you you said that there's more
Starting point is 00:21:16 the men, it's because you did you to do you to do make an question, of total of the that you did
Starting point is 00:21:22 do you do that you know, I think all the total, I have one two or 103
Starting point is 00:21:27 but I don't not can't talk like here in Brazil and there in Thailand
Starting point is 00:21:34 when I did it was like in Thailand was much there Thailand
Starting point is 00:21:37 China Dubai and Dubai was running Russia were more
Starting point is 00:21:44 than more than than there had been there I did I think
Starting point is 00:21:47 25 lute do you do four Lutas in a month in three countries different it was a mannero it was da-oh
Starting point is 00:21:56 today not now I see my gosh what I just but in the time it was da-ora was more I'd like
Starting point is 00:22:04 yeah I'd like yeah know to know people new people new culture new
Starting point is 00:22:09 and all all right all right all because that I'm something that I was a lot all right
Starting point is 00:22:15 all the lot like professionals in events organized or or if there were those things that we
Starting point is 00:22:21 never was in Thailand but but they were those people are like a tourist and say in a porrida so you're
Starting point is 00:22:26 doing to do you're not it's all it's all right in event not it's not organized in event
Starting point is 00:22:33 even, also I've also I'm not there's like it's like it's like it's like
Starting point is 00:22:39 you're like you're gonna be your same like you do you do you do you
Starting point is 00:22:43 make a maybe but you did a but it's like all Luta,
Starting point is 00:22:48 organized Yeah, or a day you're going to sometimes in the day of the lot,
Starting point is 00:22:54 it's not in the time, yeah, when you do you do you do it, get in the academy,
Starting point is 00:22:59 and the trainer and say, go, go to your house, go, go, and you know,
Starting point is 00:23:05 when you need to pay the money, the part of, the, more, yeah,
Starting point is 00:23:08 you know, you can't sometimes you can't be you can't not, no, no,
Starting point is 00:23:12 no, no another and, so, the, we, we always
Starting point is 00:23:16 I'd like, so, and it was a little the yeah, and it was hebrave.
Starting point is 00:23:20 And when you paid a month of this? Myrace in real, now, I don't
Starting point is 00:23:25 not can't make a conversion, because when I came in Thailand, $1,000
Starting point is 00:23:33 dollars $12,000 bats. So, you'd payable in the first,
Starting point is 00:23:41 you never more in a place, you never a room, no, a a quartin, a
Starting point is 00:23:44 a room, so I'd pay 5,000 of the alluel, then sobara 7, and then
Starting point is 00:23:51 of the food you gastas some, um, 4,000, 3, then there's
Starting point is 00:23:57 more a motin that you have to allugar, more some gasto there, you know, and it
Starting point is 00:24:03 was, I was, you'd get in the start, 5,000 Bats, 6,000
Starting point is 00:24:08 Bats. Just, then I discovered, then I discovered the kick boxin in
Starting point is 00:24:12 China, then in China I'd a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of I'm gonna
Starting point is 00:24:19 get a it's all right I'm thinking I'm doing totally a year to make sure I was gonna do that
Starting point is 00:24:28 I'd like 90,000 bats I'd with 10,000 batts so I was in a Thailand
Starting point is 00:24:32 grand down tall and it's a life da'ra yeah it's a lot it's a place
Starting point is 00:24:38 to the academy it's like it's like you are to get to get a the whole, the life is very
Starting point is 00:24:43 good, you get your motin, you go to a place a lot of, always people know,
Starting point is 00:24:48 you know, because there many people people are there's a time, I could, I could,
Starting point is 00:24:54 I could have a good money like, like, and it was in the sort of,
Starting point is 00:24:59 I don't, I, know, I, had an event that paid $5,000, I
Starting point is 00:25:03 had been paying 10,000 in real, understand, and conform you were getting
Starting point is 00:25:07 being more being, being more, you I'm getting more you ever You never back to get
Starting point is 00:25:13 never back I'm going to my first years of Thailand I'm saying I'm never never more I'm going to
Starting point is 00:25:20 this place because I go and I go out of a party was a it was a you can't
Starting point is 00:25:27 you can't the ballad gringo the world entire training good in this time I
Starting point is 00:25:34 think I I think I was I'm trying on Tiger I'm in Taier part you had a part you
Starting point is 00:25:39 I'd trainava at Pu-Fi club, prenava strike. So, I knew a guy all the hour, a guy of the world entire, po,
Starting point is 00:25:48 fest, a praia, da-a-a-a-a- those prairies, oh, paradisica, was pretty- so you'd get a barco
Starting point is 00:25:55 baratine, and it was a lot, man, a life da-a- but I'm a guy also,
Starting point is 00:26:00 I'm a lot, man, I go, like, like, like, like, like,
Starting point is 00:26:02 like, like, like, I'm, so I'm, I felt a little of my mom,
Starting point is 00:26:07 I'd My mom not was happy, so-s-o-s-fus-a-fus-a-fos the people, I like most my friends, I like the culture
Starting point is 00:26:14 of here, I love from the I'm a thing, I felt, like, I'd say, I put it in the corner,
Starting point is 00:26:21 and it's been a pago, and it's a thing, like, it's a thing, like, it's a person,
Starting point is 00:26:27 to be, a person, not, it, there, no, it, for much that
Starting point is 00:26:31 we're, but it's, it's never the world, you know, you're, you're, your gringo,
Starting point is 00:26:36 never is your place there, never is your house, your family, your family, not that you don't that you're
Starting point is 00:26:42 not that's your family, but your family, not be there, and I'm a person who's a kind of a lot of
Starting point is 00:26:50 I'm a man, I'm a lot, I'm sure, I'm not, I'm not, I'm in house, with my
Starting point is 00:26:53 family, listening a pagon, on the chan, everyone doing risada, that's what I know,
Starting point is 00:27:00 so, so, then, feel more than you knowvon you go to to go to to Thailand
Starting point is 00:27:11 no one no one no way yeah yeah it's a car of the yeah
Starting point is 00:27:17 yeah yeah it's just yeah and you say you said you said you
Starting point is 00:27:23 think you think you in thinking in being in this no Muayta in kick box
Starting point is 00:27:28 me yeah yeah here in here in in Brazil it's a time
Starting point is 00:27:32 I did a kind of I did three two I I think. I was bologued
Starting point is 00:27:37 with MMA. Acco happened a part of a lot one way that I didn't bathe the piece
Starting point is 00:27:41 and not there was a lot of the porh fuland not you and it was a point
Starting point is 00:27:50 that I was disponting so I'm my first was against the guy, was a guy known in
Starting point is 00:28:00 max fight. I think I had 17 years and my My first last fight, and the TV
Starting point is 00:28:07 gained the Sergian Vieira and poe everyone all over people who said
Starting point is 00:28:11 I'm gonna I'm a man who yeah and I'm good, various luts of
Starting point is 00:28:17 Maitai I gained him then I did a little I'm like Raphael
Starting point is 00:28:21 Indo but because my my joel came up my he got then he
Starting point is 00:28:27 then I'm then I started to get ballad so so this parada
Starting point is 00:28:32 to to have to be a lot of the peso and I didn't know what I wanted to and I'm
Starting point is 00:28:37 I'm going to I'm going to I'm going to be in time there's to be in man, almost six
Starting point is 00:28:44 years, you know, so I'm so, when I said what I said what I'm a lot of
Starting point is 00:28:50 China, I was a grander, you know, I'm getting to be a little more there in
Starting point is 00:28:55 Thailand and then and then yeah yeah yeah my life there was
Starting point is 00:29:01 it was was a manner I had, what, 25 years, 26, 24. In this period, so, it was far,
Starting point is 00:29:08 a lot, I'd get all, I'd never get a so, I'd, I'd start with this
Starting point is 00:29:15 thing I'm I'm gonna want to love, I'm, I'm gonna want to want,
Starting point is 00:29:19 but man, the M.A always always was always I was in good there,
Starting point is 00:29:24 I'd be a event of MMA that'd payable then, then I'm then
Starting point is 00:29:28 then I'm went to not like, like, I'm going to back. I'm thinking,
Starting point is 00:30:03 because my mom, she has a certain age, she's a one now, 70 years now, and I
Starting point is 00:30:11 am very a pegged to her, I'm, my family only my family, and my mom. And,
Starting point is 00:30:17 I was, I was, I was three years, I was, I was, I'm, and,
Starting point is 00:30:20 I'm, I'm, I'm, so, I'm, when you're going to when you're
Starting point is 00:30:24 going to when you never, nah, I'm, I'm, I'm, there's
Starting point is 00:30:27 there's Then, there's a pandemic and, po, all the whole, that's a
Starting point is 00:30:32 whole, people, people, getting COVID, and so-k that's- so- I'm going to
Starting point is 00:30:40 go back, I'll go back in October, I think, the pandemic was going in February,
Starting point is 00:30:44 I got in my time, because my recere, was my man, so-songed
Starting point is 00:30:48 here, and, and I went, the things were happening here, you know?
Starting point is 00:30:54 I'm, I'm looking after I was fighting SFT I got the CENTRA I went to CETT I went to CETT
Starting point is 00:31:03 when I was to play LFA was going to go to Contender Yeah was again was going to yeah, I'm trying against a
Starting point is 00:31:09 guy who's a guy who's a lot of a lot of the FC in the FC the Treveinggas, what you're, you know, that's...I. You know, I'm not, you're not, for the idea, you know, for the stress, yeah, he's not, you know, had asked
Starting point is 00:31:29 names of of who I would like to and he was a guy that I said,
Starting point is 00:31:34 the Treving Isles, I'm had said the Santiago Ponzi Nibiu the Joaqu were the
Starting point is 00:31:40 names that I'd be the cause of the game because of the job to show
Starting point is 00:31:45 a little more of my game, a little more of me a lot that
Starting point is 00:31:48 that not not be not there's no no problem if I'm
Starting point is 00:31:54 were a lot if I would be with a rapper, I think the Trevin Giles will try to me
Starting point is 00:31:58 aghara but it was if I'd like to look with a guy that's like a kind of
Starting point is 00:32:04 like a little bit more a lot more thought but it maybe not don't do to make to
Starting point is 00:32:10 make to give to that I want to that you can't this carton this carton
Starting point is 00:32:14 visit out of nocout nocout never always I'm always
Starting point is 00:32:19 I'm always I'm you're trying with Chris in the Valley Top Team, and also
Starting point is 00:32:27 also enter in there's a not in a fight nerd, yeah, that's a ballad in that's all
Starting point is 00:32:32 the moment of the fight syve really, there's been doing a lot very well NMC, but it's a Bruna
Starting point is 00:32:40 also, yeah, yeah, we'll do not about it. The Bruna, we'll be to look
Starting point is 00:32:43 in the same yeah, exactly, it's a all the galena inbaled there yeah,
Starting point is 00:32:47 yeah, the climate of the climate of the climate yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Starting point is 00:32:53 yeah, yeah, good. On the two teams, where I train here, the energy is very good,
Starting point is 00:32:57 energy is there in the time. Today even we just we did we're a little bit not, energy
Starting point is 00:33:04 there in the time, it's doing all the people do not to be doing there to know in
Starting point is 00:33:08 in a party nerds also, man, it's da time, train with Kai with Elia
Starting point is 00:33:13 Silberio there, I train more the part aghara and I do you know the
Starting point is 00:33:20 Elia Silberio Paul Reginaldo now that who LFA man, there's a guy very good, Alexander, and the Camelton,
Starting point is 00:33:28 call it, at a time, it's a train very good, and I'm really there, I'm doing it. Manor,
Starting point is 00:33:34 you're going to this knockout that you planes in the first time, you know, and I mean two years
Starting point is 00:33:40 in an organization, what the next step that you want? You said, before the first of the name
Starting point is 00:33:46 in the the case of what you would be to try the what you did this
Starting point is 00:33:51 what you want to what you want to the next Yeah, I'm a guy that I have a pen on the ground,
Starting point is 00:33:56 you know, I never will, po, defy a guy ranky-a, a guy, a guy, don't have any
Starting point is 00:34:02 a second lute in the F.C., he's, like, talk about, you know, like,
Starting point is 00:34:06 you know, when the pincher feels like your attention, so, you know, of the attention?
Starting point is 00:34:12 It's, more or less that's, you know, and I'm just, I'm like, I'm like, man,
Starting point is 00:34:16 man, I don't have no , man, though, like, you, you know,
Starting point is 00:34:20 I entered in the rank now. He's actually he's he's in five luta man, you know,
Starting point is 00:34:24 so how I'm going to, man, I'm going to go, now in my second to do you, talk a car rankeated to talk, man,
Starting point is 00:34:32 or with the Santiago Ponzi Nibbe that's ever to have to have been a contract in the container, I was
Starting point is 00:34:40 going to be back to Brazil and they asked if I wanted to come to get to the time to
Starting point is 00:34:45 the Ponsinibu in the event of the Chavitian contra the Graus in Las Vex and I I don't accept it. I don't
Starting point is 00:34:51 I don't say because I was mached because I thought about two seven years and my my hair was a lot
Starting point is 00:34:56 in the country and I don't accept it but it was a lot that I would be a lot of a lot more
Starting point is 00:35:02 that's a man that's a guy that we'd be a loton the public would be going to
Starting point is 00:35:07 know, who'd be be top the job yeah, the Joaqu also, it's a guy
Starting point is 00:35:16 that I'd would be a guy that I know, people do you all the the loss of his other than
Starting point is 00:35:20 after after after after after after the after he did even after the Maybe the FCC,
Starting point is 00:35:49 that would have a guy of a impression for he to get a person, and it's the
Starting point is 00:35:55 I'm a person who I'm a person for my company to this guy when the when the
Starting point is 00:36:01 Douglas got him on the GP Lado Bellator I was Sparring Douglas for this
Starting point is 00:36:05 for this car the Jukam the Lel my trainer there's on the strategy, all
Starting point is 00:36:11 and man it's a lot that I want to it's a thing I two names that I'd say
Starting point is 00:36:15 these three names they're not are rank-y-as, but they're good to get to get to the ranking, you know,
Starting point is 00:36:22 with the same, but it's clear, because you're looking, that you're kind of, you're gonna have a lot of
Starting point is 00:36:27 but you're a little bit more, you know, so you can't get to get a back on the back, you know, and get to
Starting point is 00:36:34 put up, up, you're gonna get a porrada, yeah? Yeah, if you happen to the same way, do you know,
Starting point is 00:36:42 but you're a lot of a lot, but, it's a lot, like, it's like, I'm,
Starting point is 00:36:49 like, like, like, same emotion, without, I'm, I'm supposed to say,
Starting point is 00:36:53 I'm not I'm going to see a MMA because of this, you know, but, but,
Starting point is 00:36:59 I don't know, when, I know, I don't know, I'm, I'm, the two guys, I'm,
Starting point is 00:37:04 like, to, like, to see, the card entire of, the F.C. The card
Starting point is 00:37:08 entire, the, I, the, so, the, there, there,
Starting point is 00:37:11 many, a lot, like, that, like, not it's impugant to see who knows, who knows, who knows, who gets to the front
Starting point is 00:37:18 there, when you know, get the guy, maybe, but I want to do a lot impolgant, I want to do do you, I want to, I want to, I want to, I want to be a record, who's, who never, you know, this Saturday, for a great victory, for the knockout,
Starting point is 00:37:39 the middle of the world, oh, my God, how is the expectation, how much the anxiety, to implacar more there, more one, yeah, Another local, I imagine what he's going to be this this challenge with against the Bradd-Tavars.
Starting point is 00:37:51 First, I'm very very empooged to fight, I'm going to this my look-in-your- this my lute. It's,
Starting point is 00:37:59 it's going to be going, it's been it's a six months, so I'm I'm very empowered to come back to fight.
Starting point is 00:38:08 The fight against the battle was a battle that was a lot to have to have been not happened.
Starting point is 00:38:12 It was was a lot that I did, I think it's a a lot of a lot of a lot of
Starting point is 00:38:18 it's a lot of my moment that I'm living and I am I'm I'm happy to be here I'm just just on the
Starting point is 00:38:26 minutes there to get to get long on the sabbado but I'm well I'm very
Starting point is 00:38:30 very really a great lot because what you did you for this
Starting point is 00:38:36 lot? So, so how I think it's a lot that was first that was to
Starting point is 00:38:42 have to happen that I was living in a time more of my career and a sudden he was hurt
Starting point is 00:38:47 he was going to happen, he went to go to the last year he's not the last year in the F.C.
Starting point is 00:38:54 of Boston a six months after he was going to against the Chris Weidman and then I said I
Starting point is 00:39:00 said if he won't be this this lute to put to him, I think it's a guy
Starting point is 00:39:04 that has a good name a guy that has a great experience in the
Starting point is 00:39:07 FC and for me is a lot important a lot important of my contract a lot important
Starting point is 00:39:12 for me in the moment that I'm living. I think it will be a lot that will be in a position
Starting point is 00:39:23 a position better. Like I said when I went to the F.C. I go to give
Starting point is 00:39:27 a pass of every and I believe that I don't I don't I don't
Starting point is 00:39:32 I'm not the top 10, the top 15 but the Brad Tavars is a
Starting point is 00:39:38 guy that I want to not me test but I I know who I'm
Starting point is 00:39:43 I'm going to but it's a guy that I want to get to try to try to get him when he won't he won't put,
Starting point is 00:39:52 he's going to Waisma he, they're not going to give him to put a guy maybe, maybe,
Starting point is 00:39:56 have a rankiated for him, for a guy even if he didn't get in the first of phase,
Starting point is 00:40:00 not a a guy of the name, the ex-campion. I don't, I didn't think in this
Starting point is 00:40:06 because I think I think the UFC never me with with good eyes, and I think it's a lot
Starting point is 00:40:14 that's a lot of going to be a war. The Bray Tavares is a guy who is a kickboxer good, and I like
Starting point is 00:40:27 this, this, this, so I think the FCC also, it took a little to mark
Starting point is 00:40:33 I, I kept there waiting, I'd have been to have been to be in December,
Starting point is 00:40:38 but it was the thing was the thing that I wanted, they're they're
Starting point is 00:40:42 I'm feeling for this In the way the way the way I made a impression of you know
Starting point is 00:40:47 maybe the last time the last year to get a one of the kind of the yeah, given the FC
Starting point is 00:40:56 has a lot to a lot to have a lot of time, yeah, there's a lot of people,
Starting point is 00:41:00 many people also also in the UFC you see he like he like he's like
Starting point is 00:41:05 he's he can't he can't have an opportunity to have an rankingate
Starting point is 00:41:09 before I believe that I see I I see those guys that's that's
Starting point is 00:41:14 the people the most of the guys who looked with him after they after the guys of the
Starting point is 00:41:21 top 10 top 15 so I think I think so but if also I don't for I
Starting point is 00:41:27 I'm I'm in peace with this I'm like I I'm I'm
Starting point is 00:41:32 I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm sure the way the way
Starting point is 00:41:35 the time so but I think that, after he, I can't,
Starting point is 00:41:41 I can't be in front of the top. How do you think you make this this last victories,
Starting point is 00:41:47 four victories, four victories, were all those for knockout there, is so you see, gain of him
Starting point is 00:41:52 or you think to be a way different? I always think of the three rounds, and you
Starting point is 00:42:00 see, he, he is a guy who goes to love a lot in the distance
Starting point is 00:42:05 there, get those points, is a a guy who is a person who's
Starting point is 00:42:10 my power of the know I'm my Jiu-Git is very good so I'm so I'm
Starting point is 00:42:17 my side I believe that this lot will not get those three rounds and how
Starting point is 00:42:22 how how you see the moment there's the academy yeah I've
Starting point is 00:42:29 I've with Poe with with Jason Jackson are champions there
Starting point is 00:42:35 PFR and delator who are with the gigantes in the final
Starting point is 00:42:38 of the month confronts the two organizations, the help to talk with a move on the moment that's
Starting point is 00:42:44 the team entire people and people with a lot great, and I imagine that the the climate
Starting point is 00:42:49 the team be there's on the top, no, no, no, the impo
Starting point is 00:42:53 for me, uh, we know, we know, we know, I've been a time, when I
Starting point is 00:42:58 know, when I'm came in the key, he was a guy who me helped me me helped me
Starting point is 00:43:04 for this little, it's has been I've grown quite to get the FC, he was a
Starting point is 00:43:09 champion of the NFL he got got a good, I know, I'm a guy,
Starting point is 00:43:14 he's a man, I'm a man, I said, my man, you're saying, my man,
Starting point is 00:43:19 you're a man, a tank of a car, no, no, no, there's,
Starting point is 00:43:23 you're, where you put to you're just just to get to this, and then he
Starting point is 00:43:27 was there, he was he was a champion, Jason Jackson, an excellent friend too,
Starting point is 00:43:33 a man, always always, always sorrinder and we're trying we're doing
Starting point is 00:43:39 a lot of another guy who made for this camp going to be to do my corner, Vincent Luke,
Starting point is 00:43:46 who is a kickboxer, a man, a man who God me did, who has been so
Starting point is 00:43:50 has been so I'm so I'm very well accompanied, the team is excellent the Henry,
Starting point is 00:43:57 the Greg, all the all the trainers of our team, the guys can't make a
Starting point is 00:44:03 a harmony good there into, to get a climate for everyone, everyone
Starting point is 00:44:07 to help, no one, it's a little, it's a team so, I've got many
Starting point is 00:44:12 people, that's good, there's many, there's good, guys,
Starting point is 00:44:17 guys, guys, guys, guys, but each one, it's, it's,
Starting point is 00:44:22 various teams in the same team, there, there, they're
Starting point is 00:44:24 not, they're doing, do you get to help to help the,
Starting point is 00:44:29 Brianon Ellen, a other guy, that's the my division also, but
Starting point is 00:44:33 it was there a week in Florida me helping, he does the campes all of his own in the cliff
Starting point is 00:44:39 but he morrower in other state but it's there to me give a force so I'm so I'm
Starting point is 00:44:45 happy in the academy that I am very I'm happy with my team and that it's good
Starting point is 00:44:50 that makes feel more to feel for these challenges yeah you're is
Starting point is 00:44:55 so you're so you're so you're like you've you see
Starting point is 00:44:59 the photo with Chabkat Harmonov like an animal in the middle and far
Starting point is 00:45:05 this you passed a a time there was not a time was that you went to
Starting point is 00:45:10 go over training with glover training with Poatan so you are very versed
Starting point is 00:45:15 in all areas in all for this last battle so it was
Starting point is 00:45:19 a good for me yeah know yeah yeah yeah
Starting point is 00:45:25 to get some two several there for other he did
Starting point is 00:45:28 he he did he was And it was, for me, it was a time very good, I've been a lot, I've learned much, oh,
Starting point is 00:45:37 even a guy, poor, the curve, there's a guy good, got to teach, got to help. The Glover,
Starting point is 00:45:45 then, then, he's really, a man, po, phenomenal, and I'm trying to
Starting point is 00:45:50 go back now he, he, we've been conversation and, and, it was,
Starting point is 00:45:56 it was very good, for me, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, to test
Starting point is 00:45:58 now this this time there, but I believe that me accretented I'm going to also and I'm
Starting point is 00:46:03 going to work to get him to get to Jamal Rio also, right? Exactly, it could be a we've been
Starting point is 00:46:10 conversed a lot and he, poe, I will look now, the fight of probably
Starting point is 00:46:16 I don't know when he has, he don't have a date even, but he said he said,
Starting point is 00:46:21 I'd want to I'm going to be organized maybe I will be more some weeks
Starting point is 00:46:26 some some weeks some times there training. He was he was listening he when
Starting point is 00:46:30 Jamal Rio in New New New York, you think it's a one of a challenge that's a
Starting point is 00:46:36 challenge that he's a champion got to the global he's in the New York
Starting point is 00:46:39 but you see the the two you think the the game
Starting point is 00:46:42 you think it's a for example if for example if you Paulatam
Starting point is 00:46:49 I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm
Starting point is 00:46:54 one of one of the other things that I'm surprised was the part of grappling of him,
Starting point is 00:47:00 he's a facha preta, so he's a guy, so he's a black, it's a marron
Starting point is 00:47:06 but the , but the point of him, but it's a man, but it's a guy
Starting point is 00:47:12 that's a guy that he's a guy, he's a guy just striker, not, a guy of
Starting point is 00:47:18 kick-box, but no, he's a complete, so I think he's a encremed for any for any
Starting point is 00:47:24 I think he bathe in Jamal, with certainty, and one of of the things, too, he has been, that he has, I think,
Starting point is 00:47:33 the mind of Potan is, this was one of the things that I, because I, I said, I said, I said,
Starting point is 00:47:39 I need to be like this guy, there's a mind, there's a mind of a mind of a
Starting point is 00:47:43 man, he's a man, no, no, negotiate in nothing, and this is legal, this me
Starting point is 00:47:49 He's, he's taught much. So I believe that, Tantalaev, or any other guy of the division, Jamal, he's, he has,
Starting point is 00:48:00 he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he's,
Starting point is 00:48:05 he's called, the impa, that's the champion, the PFL, will affect the Johnny Ebbling, who's the,
Starting point is 00:48:11 poor, the, excellent, lotator, he, invict, the champion, the bellator. I think,
Starting point is 00:48:15 I think, there, I think, there, a, I, in this but it's
Starting point is 00:48:19 only three rounds how you see this look for the imp to John Ebbin like you know how I'm my way
Starting point is 00:48:27 for me he never he's encountered a man he knows all the all the
Starting point is 00:48:33 he has a guy very aggressive a guy a force a guy who has a a guy who
Starting point is 00:48:39 can't know the guy who the adversary has a a part of grappler
Starting point is 00:48:45 a guy very very versatile does do all same time. But the impa also, we've trained a lot,
Starting point is 00:48:53 he's been afyed in all the parts, so I believe that, by the moment that he's living, too, for everything he's passing there, all these things good that are in the best phase of the career, I believe that he will bring more one
Starting point is 00:49:09 victory for us. You think that the winner of this luta will be the best, the best measure, because we had as a champion the Adesani, the Potan and Wadessani, this troc between them,
Starting point is 00:49:21 and then the chance of them won in a Zebra and now the Duplici gained a decision very open a lot,
Starting point is 00:49:27 many people questioned and you know, you think the Impa and the Jony Ebbling, the Kempc
Starting point is 00:49:32 there, is in a level on the degree of the Drix Drix? Ah, I think.
Starting point is 00:49:39 It's, respect, Dricus, but I believe that I don't see he's
Starting point is 00:49:45 holding this syndrome for for a much time and and looking these guys I know are the shows different
Starting point is 00:49:54 like I always I always I've said the UFC is a different man the atmosphere is another
Starting point is 00:50:02 you become another lotator there are many things that influence for you are there
Starting point is 00:50:07 so for that I say I I respect the Drico to be a champion of his
Starting point is 00:50:14 did a a good, trillet a good way, I don't see him as one of
Starting point is 00:50:19 the one of the most of the middle not, there's many
Starting point is 00:50:23 more than he's compared with these guys you have impa
Starting point is 00:50:28 and I think these guys are very many so
Starting point is 00:50:33 it can be to compare with the world
Starting point is 00:50:37 in the champions that the two the one of
Starting point is 00:50:40 two can be the the most the the world. There, the last one.
Starting point is 00:51:20 Enjoy a Coca-Cola for a pause that refreshes.

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