MMA Fighting - Trocação Franca | Tudo sobre o UFC São Paulo (com Román Laurito)

Episode Date: November 1, 2023

Agora o bicho vai pegar: o UFC desembarca em São Paulo pela primeira vez em quase quatro anos, e o Trocação Franca destrincha o card com a ajuda de Román Laurito, comentarista de MMA na Band, faixa-preta de jiu-jitsu e baixista da banda Tihuana. O podcast traz, ainda, entrevistas com Jailton Malhadinho, Vitor Petrino, Ismael Bonfim, Eduarda Ronda, Elves Brener, Kaue Fernandes e Fabrício Andrade. O melhor do MMA brasileiro no Trocação Franca, toda semana, com o jornalista Guilherme Cruz e convidados. The UFC finally returns to São Paulo four years after its last show in the city, and Trocação Franca breaks down the card with UFC color commentator and Tihuana rock star Román Laurito. This week’s podcast also features interviews with Jailton Almeida, Vitor Petrino, Ismael Bonfim, Eduarda Moura, Elves Brener, Kaue Fernandes, and Fabricio Andrade. Listen to Trocação Franca with Guilherme Cruz every week to hear from the biggest names on the hottest topics in the Brazilian combat sports world. Follow Guilherme Cruz: @Guicruzzz Subscribe to MMA Fighting Check out our full video catalog Like MMA Fighting on Facebook Follow on Twitter Read More: http://www.mmafighting.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Cruz. Hello, hello, a friend of the Lutta, a centeim, the third episode of podcast, Trocaca san franc, The first

house about this immense power of the year. I'm going to Mr. President of the American on M.M.A.

F.C. San Paulo, my friends, were four years of the October to go to the d'Intyre

to Ypirapua. So I convoying than the Herman Roman Laurito, ex-bastista to Tijuana

and commentar to M.M.A. Laban, to review about for it, my am I a honor to

be you here, welcome to podcast and I'm imagine you know that the question I'm going to because in the

day of C. South-C San Paulo, and culminates of the Libertadores in Maracanan. You're going to be, Gila, because I'm a salleyser justa. But I'm not

going to be possible, We always We always prioritized the work in first place and it's a great day Saturday,

I've been in San Paulo for me particularly professionally talking, I'm realizing a sono an old

I comment MMA professionally since 2012 I'm in Bant Sportes commenting various events of the left

European Asian and Asian and from time to come to start to start the

to put the opportunity to the FCA and now in Loco in Bipipo A

It's a dream that I'm doing, so, I'm trying to love my Boca Junior. I'd like to be Maraca, but the priority will be the UFC. The game, he will start two hours before the initial of the UFC San Paulo.

Depending on how you get those minutes final, that's going to be going to be the microphone in the hand, and having to comment to do the abrid of the FC,

yeah? Saturday, it promises. But I ask the Bocaleva, you, Guilermis. You tosses for who? Bota Fogga?

Bota Fogu? So, Boka, so, Bocca, and Brazil in the Libertador? Yeah, that's a question.

If you could ask a champion or Brazil 100% in the FSA, Sao Paulo? Ah, no, does question a difficult,

man, can be Boka champion in Brazil, 98% in New York San Paulo? That's just. Then you have to choose

who will be going to do you, I'm going to do you know? No, imagine. I'm,

I'm, I'm a fan of the athletes of M.A. Today, I also I also I'm doing to come out of

I'm in fact that I went to go to Tijuana I'm not because during some time I came to conciliate the two things the communication and the band of

I'm doing to a group bandrante of communication with program of radio and conciliating a tourne with the program of that I don't

see until today how I could do this was a locura but I I entered in the communication for the MMA

after I went to the opportunity and I I've also I've got also doing football, but the

my priority always for MMA because I'm very fan of an amateur of the athlete of MMA.

I'm, in my team, I have partners of training who are the people who

see how it's the day-a-day of these guys, are the guys extremely focused, families,

many of them religious, so I think a sport that not you can't you can't you can't

do it like in football to pass the ball to do the professor

to try, it's all in your name, you know, the portia the door of the jaul is you, and the other

guy, and I'm trying to get to your head. I admire these guys. So, boy,

never would be the goal to be the job for a derrott of the mutton of but you will be in a

carot in the same or you will be in the octogono you know, you know, you know,

you know, it's a curiosity that I had been, because all the whole point to happen, but the

ultimate information that I was there, we're there, at the bea of octagon, it will be, it's not it's been a

great emotion. Oh, I don't know if you're not sure you're not, but the first last time,

but the first against the Mark of Jekese and the Calueh Fernandes is perhaps the most fanatic,

the torsid of the Fluminens so I think it's to tell to him to him when it

before the lot. Ah, yeah, boy, but then also, but then the

news for the guy, it's is difficult, that he man. For one

something to another. He's he's a little bit he's a little bit of him.

He's going to be the Kauue. Now for the Fluminance I don't go no. Poe,

car, Mario, and you're a commentator about this about this passion of sport in the Brazil and so,

and also, there's a story in the Chihuana, but how is you came to be to back here

in Brazil car? How is this Argentino came here and so turned this rost

known to this russed the rock national, to be a commentarist of MMA and football, radialista, and all the 8,000 functions that you do.

Oh, Gilever, my first entry here in Brazil, I had three years of age, in the fact, especially my father, in Buenos Aires, he was fascinated by the New York of New York

because of Boasano. He was an apportioned for Vincius de Morais, and he'd were hearing that letters, princesses in the mar, a girl of Panema, and the sonio

was a day to mora in the Rio de Janeiro. And he did this movement when I was with three years of age. He got me, my brother, that was with almost two, my mom, and they were to Rio de Janeiro. I'm resuming much, and, well,

in the sequence, they were very young, I think, the vina of them to Brazil, gave a messilla in the case, they separated, and my mom, goes to Buenos Aires, but my father's in the Rio. So I've became my life entire, at least, even my adolescence,

is doing a ping-y-pong Buenos Aires, Rio, Bonozoids, Bono-A-Dio, Bonoz-Aid-Rio, until with 17 years, I took a decision, no, I'm going to live in Brazil, I'm not in New York. So I did a ping-pong in my life entire, but I opted

for the Rio de Janeiro, and it's just that I took this here's a carioca, and just in 98, that I did the movement to be to San Paulo just for because of the music. But me created

in the Rio, and, poor, the heartocaeastern, right of today, I'm more time of San Paulo than than the Rio, I'm only 17 years

in the Rio, but I'm 24, 25 in in San Paulo, but, I think, as well, I'm my DNA is Carioca. And how is the Bucca gained this Coraoca, yeah? There's a memory affective, I'm not, I'm not, because

in these ping-and-pong, I, I more than I'm a little in Bonares, and when I was in Bonairene, it was the time that you were the Bona joggeda, so, not so I, all my friends, were, I, I, man, I had photo mine, with five, four, five

years with the Camisa of Boka, It's not marked too it's my memory affective but I'm so I'm

a member when I'm in the Rio was a year of the first of

the flamengo with Zico Alas an a period of football

Carioca that you had the Zico in the Zico the Dynamite in Vash

the Flomeneene with a Dupl Washington Assis and so I

I've I've been very He'd plantava, Maraca, I went in the Dispidida, I'm in the reign of the Rio,

then Tio Edmundo, Tio, Renato Gauucho, Romario, so, the Flamino, I still do Bocca, but I sympathize with the Flamendo.

So, is it's wrong, then, it's wrong, it's wrong, but I'm sorry, I'm talking for Botafo for Botafo being

a champion Brazilian, view? Poor, we're all. No, the heart is the heart the heart,

the heart, the heart. It's, it's, Tamara, and you were the father came to come to because of the music. He had some

a little bit of music, he'd have been a guy who'd like to hear so the guy who was born in medicine,

but in that moment he was working with publicity, he's enchanted with the photography, he came

a bata photographer publicitario, he did much success in Argentina, he took this hype and did this

movement for Brazil. In fact, he first, he was contracted for an agency in

And then he He was with two, three days and said, I'll pass through for the Rio and he said, he said, I need to live

and he said, and he made sure there, and he made sure a agency, too publicitaria in New New York and there

was working with public city in many years, until then finally revalid the diploma and he started to

work with and when you entered in the world of the luts? I always been fascinated

for a lot. I'm I'm going to doodoo Copalem in the Copalem

in the in the phase that Mark Ruhus had a class of Maitai my brother my brother with Mark Ruhus

there's a lot with Mark Ruhus there's a lot I'm in Argentina and then I discovered the Toh-Kuendo because in that time the Taqo-Indo

was like Jiu-N-D was in Brazil Toku-Indo there and then I did take a Qifu there also with

with Chinese Chinese even with a varina a barin' a barin'a to batia in the people even thought of

Spanish right so there I had, I've, some, a formation very,

what is the the ensignment oriental, that's very traditional. Then I go in these two those times,

ping-pong, I'm going to go back to go to New Year, and I'm going to remember, in, look the Luce

Luce Luce Luce. Bruce Luce. I got to do you, did Luton of M., did do you know of

Kuhu, then I, then I, I go back, to be a bit more, to start, I,

contact more in the Rio I had had made Karate Chotokan

also in Bota Fogu so I think transentating in various arts

martial martial and finally to be very I'm to

jiuits the jiuitso I was fascinated because I always was a very much

with me this last of the confronts of my mind you

my mind the same I was the world I'm I'm I'm

always had had have, man, caramba, man, vulgo-do-a-ch, he who's out of the

man, at a year, at least I've seen O'Geney Tadue said, man, Eugneau who said that

Lugner the porthes and I did that I did that my, I'm my time, I'm a

my, my time. But I'm not I'm could be because it was the time of the

time of the the tretes in boates in B'Awe or in a boat in a a lagoa

and have a trita of Lutla-Lewr into Jujits, and this I'd be offast-a. It was because I was in the music, I was cabalood, so man, there's nothing to be with me.

But, but I'm here in San Paulo, I know, I'm going to, I'm ventura to start the Jiu-Gitza in 2004 and I'm not paring to today.

You've been able of all the founts that are in any ofm-a, in some moment you've thought in some way of this type? Like, I, like,

I, de fact, after the music, what I most am I most love in my life is a lot of when I'm in a time in the

road, that I did 40 years, I guess you just you just have been a commission that I needed to

think about to start in other thing, I was a thing that I was my thinking, well,

what I'm most I'm so I'm saying, well, it's a lot but not to be a

lot of I'm don't know I'm veal and then it was a boletion of my entry in my introduction but when

When I thought in this possibility, I was a very but I'm like, Guillermo, I never was a guy I think you

I think you're to be a member to be a mere a mere to be a doctor, another has to be a music and the guy

nace to be to be a loter for me, the jujitsu, just to get on a montada and do a mass

on the car I'm satisfied I don't me imagine, I'm not being done a mass and add

cutoveled on the car to doverver to be a situation much like, of defense the people

in the room, you know? Vida or Mord. I don't see doing this sportivelyly you're a

man, you're not the sport, you know, the Valdit, all the events that rolled up in

Rio, of Valitud all the decades of 80, 90? I'd I'd during many

years, I'd study, I'd do'd, and I'm my band yeah, I'd,

I'd, I'd, my band of underground, heavy metal, and I studied during the night,

ensayed at the night, and during the day I was working as a vendor of shopping. I worked many years as

as a vendor of shopping. I worked many years in the shopping and in Botafogo. And in the fourth

the floor was a arrepentation. And I worked out of a reventation and the reventation

patroning the carson Grace. So, I'll in-Mail to get the

and I'm Bittet. I'm married, Bittet. I'm Mora'A Manan Zic. Bittet

was knockouted by the Master Huck. So this my remembrance of the most possible of this phase of the Valley Tud. Now,

in the TV and Fita VHS, I've seen all, everything, all the I've been been very FCRio,

the first, classic, that's historic, and with that the entry to the Tijuana, I've said that was said

that was been asked, I've been been very but you're being a lot of time, you I don't know,

but see the the entry with the ball of the with the music, not was in

the arena, I'm here in San Paulo watching by the TV, that's on the

TV, and I know when he entered with a drop to the

I said I'm what? Like, the porra the gymas entire

and I didn't I don't anything nothing, nothing nothing then,

then then program of MMA with him. There rolled a league for the cause of he was the BOP of Brazil and

we were in the end up with the music of the film, then we got to have been an approximation, but the day that

he entered, for me, sincerely simply, so, without false modetia, for me,

the entry the story of a lot of the lot of the other was a bad, it was it was

the pastics of the F.C. Rio, and this was the entry was the everyone.

I've ever Anderson Sivan Trambe, us is real, but this day was surreal because the point choice is perfect was the character

perfect, was the character perfect, that's there's all the elements to be a entry historical, right?

There, the astros were, and me took a surprise was very very much very much

a little bit a little the world of the lot of the the lot of there. No,

in the time, I accompanied the career of his business, and he was very good,

man, a guy, a bond of box, a bond of the chan, had a triangle of a man potent, even passed some little bit more, Caveo, the guy, Caveo, man,

what, and who are, Covee, and who's those guys that you most like to see, since, from the time of the juvenude there,

that's the sports, the various, the names of the stories, the ones that you're most the guys that you

most guys that you're most of the first I'm know, my M.E. Nek-N., that brilled here in the MMA national.

He got to make a final with Demiama of that's a GP how he called Super Charlie who seemed the prize the guys

entered very cool he went to M1 Global loted up Afliction and the Fabio

he had everything I got to a lot a guy extremely technical but very aggressive and

he's of Jiu Jitsu but that's a kind of that talent nato He went-tos and even up to train.

So he, with much facility, he got the man of the of the trocaption, of the Muaythai, of the box, and he had a chance differentiated.

So, it was a good to see, because it was a guy who was a guy to try to go, a little more

back on. Poh, no, Pardt, I'm a friend of Emily Anik Fedor, I think the

people have been, I've been a little legado of this guy, I'm feeling that he's

being a bit subestimated within the media of MMA and the media of MMA, but for me, one of the best of all the tempest,

who's the time, who didn't give him, it was like a-a-girdre, but he didn't do nothing to be, the guy bravo, too. The guy at the front of your time, you see, you see that he had a vision, a perception of a-present of the time. I see the Pride,

Guillermo, as a middle term, between what he was the UFC, which is the MMA professional, and what was the VALTH, because in PRAD, I still had a little of reskissue

of each athlete to defend your modality but just all the world training all right not there's that the other

thing was another thing was but even there's a the shoot of the matter there's the riskiss

the valetude there this is confront rivality between teams I thought this sensational

this was it's seduze too I've been many many many many madrogas

I'm watching Pride so so who was the guy of Jiu-Jitsu, the Vanderleysilva, of Pride,

who was the guy of Muay Thai, are references for me. And then I'm going to to the FC, man, because I think was the guy

that was the guy who made upto the Jiu-Gitzo pure, he really saw... At the beginning was a sacanage,

yeah, and they were for the guys for the guy for he'd get, he'd, everybody knew

what he'd everybody knew what he'd would be to get and it was to get it was He was he was in the car Duralist who

He took for nothing No Jiu-Jitsu Because there's the guys who are the Jiu-Jitsu but they're very good in the Trocaation

like if there Fabe Negang-O Possible I'm saying the Juseldo came to Jiu-Gitzo but it was so good

in the troika who made the chakar Ficoor Fica Rang Maw-P the Mone Pek-N-N-N-N-N-N-

D-N-N-N-N D-N-N-N-E-M Fououm-N-N-E D-N-N-N-E F'A-SW So, the guy that I parable to say, I'd say, I mean,

and then the show man, Conan McGregor, the Spider, the guy, also, that's the guy, also, that's,

that's, that's the world, yeah, and what are the lot of, you're, like, for any reason,

or for any because were emotional or because they were in a form different? Yeah, the duels, the binotaur

Fedor, all, there, man, me d' d' dem, d' dorm in the person.

The, The first of the frangles watching this Lothal, Minotaur, Minotaur and Fetor Minotaur was Minotaur in the veal, but, like, I mean,

I'd even doormia in the vespair. I'd like very about the rivality Vanderlea and Sakuraba, because Sakuraba vina bian back in all the world, and the Wanderlays

came to live a honor in the Brazil. There's a lot that a lot that a lot of people talk, just in a FC of the Vandlea

Silva against how is the name of him, that was a military, American, uh, Breastern. Thank you.

Vandalee and Brinezinez was It was in Japan It was a animal It was too It was too Many knockydown to come to Kna Kna Kydown

to Lama This Luta was braba Pohrrs The Shogun against the Nanderson Also

Mottas Minotore and Shogun also Lutasa I defend Minotor Shugun devirn's infreentar

one until they're Kansar R Rupp Rund so Rund but can't Bout Rue against another

person that was this UTC RUU that they've got a man, porra, never I've seen in my life,

it's necessary, botry, there's totally out of the world, it's totally out of context, not, they're going to go to a molek,

no, they're going to, get a year, but I'm going to go and say in a porrada, and it's all right, until can't have been a point.

Appoyated, have my support. And I'm going to say, now, it's been going to be San Paulo,

you know, you're going to see the Maladino and having the grand opportunity of them to make,

the last, the last he passed now, against Derek Lewis, a bit of a bit of the time for this grand

the fight with, and it's a lot of a manned a man, a man, he's been very hype, meresied, yeah,

is doing excellent work in an FEC, and it can't be a conversation about, now. Yeah, the maladine

is a phenomenon, man, car, he's just two derotas in the career, I think the last was in 2018,

from there to last, the guy really goted this sequence there, and convincing, you know,

entro, and went from the contenders, finalizing, and and go to FCC and continue on the same atuad.

Or finalizing, or knockoutian, all the first round. Look, I think a maladino, he not is great for the category, for a problem,

but he compensates with much velocity and there's jiu-jit differentiated. So he, he says that he is fan of Kabib, Norma Gormegov,

and he, when he goes to this job agarado, see, semelanastas, I think it's a guy, even now with the

lesion of John Jones, that depending on what happened and how he went to be, I see him as a favorite for this

fight, not that's I think he was a crazy, but I'm but I'm having to be

to have to respect, you know, the guy, he needs to a foot to define the

the lute. It's that he needs, so all all of the things, but I

see a maladion as a favorite, and depending how he will be more a

actuation of gala, more a performance dominant, he's in the book of goal for a dispute

of a title so a lot important to a lot lot of a lot of a lot of a good thing. For me,

the scenario better than you for him, because he was to do that the car's a guy more dark

than the Eric Lewis, better rankiated and that a victory over the direct Louis would,

there's various responses that we don't have even on the maladino how he would

he would be to see would be out of a and all but it's a

very popular, there's a many people who don't go to because the style of the he's a stools of his own

that's a kind of a little bit more that's the not a lot more that's more a more popular that you can't

do Derek Lewis there's there's much more people because the Derek and Lewis is a person who

he's a job to join to join to go to the middle of the end of the next, if you

go out of the end of when you're going to he's there's he goes to he passed

the car on Derek Lewis he could very get the winner of the winner of and the Pavlovich

so he's with a knife to take a knife to make a car do you know do the job and do the job and you can't

go to New York and sit down in the peritla yeah yeah it's all the same vision that you

know in a first moment I think you also you was sagas when you said you know that

we had to know that's this level that we're trying that he's against the

country's not this is a task a little bit, so we'll see at what the point the wrestling

he's in this level to be in the way to get to put the job of the way he has the way he

he's in the when he's a bad news, because you try the quarter the ranking against the first of the

first of he had to a dispute for the centuron until the reason of John Jones. Ah,

and we also talk to a possible dispute if he vencee. So, for me, the astros

more one way were they're aligning, and the mulek there's a question on a podcast here that he

has interest in a interest in a try to get a victory about the same but for me he's having to look on the

centurion long. Who can get the centroote interion? I'm going to have to do the word

he's a time. He said the title and vasa, they're a car I'm going to I think so, I think he's

if God want to interview in a post-lute, you're making the question. with a question.

To use a little microphone is your favor, not be able to even more if you get to Derek Lewis, who is a

popular, this type of moment that viral really is a match a dance and see a challenge in English.

Insaia the phrase and it's it. And for this card it can not be a card that's a

card a galatic and is a cheoes consagrated but for me it's a car to

he has all to have two three years you look to look at least, poor, this guy

I'm not at the guy who's this guy who's he's a top 10, top 5 who's, like we're looking at

back back to see in a San Paulo that's the Khabi in Montgomery Madov and Vodov,

you know, the UFC. Amakus Tavala. Yeah, the UFC Uberlandia, Kobe Kovton

Luton, like Lundus Luton Lundia, like a lot of things when you look at back and

look like this car he had to he came this car never came to Mennonardardus, nobody

for the Kobe Cobbton. It was the first night. So, for me this guy, he came to the Colby he was in the

whole of Demian, not was it? To Demen after the St. Paul. Yes. It was, got him.

The Demen, I said to him he had a Cina in a career of his career and he, he, he perjohn he said,

man, the man, he was, but the guy, he was all the monster. Heardt said, man, hearder,

he said, when he was the guy, Chris, the guy, and then the guy man, he did for him,

to Usman, but what's this car, this Usman? And then, and then the same thing, and then you see, Chris Wyman, Usman,

Colby Cov, so he always piquot, so he always were, but were, but they were, yeah,

the people who didn't know. They were, they were to be. Exactly. And, but, so, in

the same, on what you said, Guy, it, like, not a car of galactic,

a fact, but for who can don't accompany. For who who can accompany, it's a new generation, and the base

is coming a big of Farrie, is a phenomenon. The Marretin is a phenomenon that's a phenomenon that's a invictor,

finalisador, man-pesada also, complete. So I think I think we we have opportunity to

see the new generation Brazilian getting, and I have expectative if not what I'm

I'm going to say now, I'm going to frustrate. Because I have an expectation that will be a great night for Brazil. 98% of the opportunity. Yeah, for me I want to be champion. Those names of Brazilian, in the Cardes, who are you mentioned, some of those guys who you have to say this car, for this guy, this guy, will be top five.

He will be a different from the UFC for three, four years. Ah, the Marrettinia, yeah, I like, I love too, of Victor Petrino. It's in the preliminary, yeah. For me, it's here to be in the card principal.

I like too much of this guy, durissim, a fort, a barbarity. A man, a lot that I am a lot of very much a few

yeah, the Rodolf Vieira, he, he still is an an adultational, he has to have to make a part in

par to the I think even in the floor, he still is really a time when he goes to time,

I'm just going to try on idea with my doctor, I said, car, the Rodolfo had to

But he has to, the Demi could show the way the way of those for him, of him to use this Jiu-Jitsu in the M.M.A. But it's a guy,

man, the ultimate he almost me mated to the heart. I think he has to godof, he has to go ahead, and he says,

I'm the guy of Jiu-Gitzo, and fuck this, is what I'm going to do you do you know, I'm going to give that I'm

going to do to put to back back, I'm going to go to an guy to go to an American Top Team or go to

akei and train with the Komiya, to train with this guy that's a pesed in wrestling

that's to be able to you're in because he trainer in a Florida, in a academy

where he is the number one of the academy, a guy who not have not much experience in

M.A. even have been to be not the people who are in the other things, that's the

other things, but a way I'm a bit of my life I'm like, how is like,

try to do you like, if you're in-v- -the-air- in-v-v- -all-and-so- just-a-

How is like you like you will, like, evolve to something, saying you are the number one of the latter. You're going to massar everyone. You don't have to have a challenge in the academy,

you know, a guarantee of this, this aperture, in the hour H, or in the hour of M.A., so I think he has maybe, maybe in the future,

now or in the future, to think, for, for I, to do the next pass, to I, to evolve with a

multi-a- that he just does he would be, I think he would be, I would be, one of these these muddances, not?

I, when the characteristics of Rodolf, in the Lutas MMA, I think the way to

him to make a mix of the game of Damien with the game of Khabib. I think it

that he would be able to be able to because he has a good, he has a kind of

he's got him of he, he he gets with much facility, so I think that is

what you say, maybe a kind of a man of a parteers of

the and determine the way he will see and look, my game will be this and I'm going to be this,

but I'm going to go out of but I'm going to get to be able to the last time took a knockdown sanguettado is a manuel

it's a a goodgerer but the level that we know that we can't he can't he can't

he can't make more with the for the just to just to finish I want to let's just

to say who will get and how will will be in the card principal of the South of a second

a good do you know do you're going to go out of this ball of crystal yeah

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the car of Jujits that's that's kind of the guy man I'm

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that this sabbado, does the lute football. It would be against Kurtzblades. He would get up the top of the category, the most well-ranked, the division of pes-pessal. It's a lot of good-simmed-a-gris. With much moral,

in the FC, the Derek Lewis. My friend, welcome to the podcast. First, what did you need to

the fight with the start of the Curbs Blazers with Derek and you know. Fah, Glemy Cruz.

We're together. Rapace, turbulence for this this Fiscard of Brazil.

It was a d'Uroro. The other the caro baller came down. And I know, I don't,

I don't I was superable that I'd care the but I don't know what happened was going to see what

was going I don't say the card yeah I'd I'd thank you know

to take the last time that I'm back back because yeah poor monot

so my peck the card and to nothing you don't know not not

not no that blade you you I think I think it's I think it's

not the so the preparation we're always maintain the same focus or the same training

there has moved some some some some people know everyone

know that is a very dangerous a really a person a guy where a man

he doesn't more cabal no with all respect of dereke

yeah and and the good of this this is a little more less less than the

Jais'nion, the for the Provocantzblade, I've got a little bit I've been, but I always say the pain will is the man. If the hand of him to get, everyone knows that it's fatal,

but if we're in those of our trainings of what we're doing, we'll get, we'll get to blockia and say and do you have a lot to contra Danekylls. You're teemewed that not could be able to to surge someone

of a high level to substitute because the Curse Blades is the top five of the division

and you don't are the style of the lot of you imagine that there have a lot of

a lot of a guy is a person who gets there and amass the adversaries you imagine

that not there's many people people people people people if you

go and if you go by the fact of the top top 10

to top 10 to come up everyone just like a lot yeah, yeah

had been allotted everyone was all right and you see now

like Pavlovit and Tom Asp are being being to be

in where I need to get to of so I think there

no there didn't so the proper the part

Tatu Vazah Vas and Bucor Vukov, also had been a

contu- Vazan like, like I've been a like a lot of a lot

for a like a like a lot of so I'm so a lot more,

like a man more from me but I always I always I always always

like you like someone with with me and you say I'm going to

get a guy you're going to what you want to you're a category of the

F. you are a thing It's a very, like, a tumulte the category, not know that's a stuhrone, not know what happens

with the Joniz, but you know, if it could be Pavlovit or Tom Haspina or put a sylipan with someone. You see that that I'm,

that I'm going to Amanda Nunes, it's the, I don't me wrong, you don't me wrong, just not me wrong, with Amanda, we don't know,

we don't know, we know, we don't know, we don't know, a thing, and I'm trying to talk to me with me and say, and I'm going to

what's the I'm going to my time to do you know, I'm in time of my territory in my life in the F.C.

It was a thing that was called two times to F.C. And the two times I don't get to enter

direct. I went to the contender, I pegged a Rousseau extremely bigosos. Then I

gained the Rousseau I was thinking that was all the was all was all was all

I was going to FC. The Mistel was a dino-Marx had also that he had been so much-and-a-law and then, the other than I'm think, the two,

the two-FSI, what I don't go, because he was marked the other Chameo, and then, but he was a guy that had

got to have been right, right? Exactly, it's there really, so I'm always so I'm always

preys, I'm in time, because I'm all in time of God, and the things were going to happen

naturally, and all the UFC did you. The UFC did you ever I think not

I think not that my president didn't show to talk nothing to he just said he's he's been in

he's a manned he'll offer you probably you'd have offered for this guy

on the man up and it's like I said many not they've

not been they've a question because when he's not a question because he's not

he said it's he's not he's The my vision of this this mudance is that for you it's been good. So, so, so, all the lute is d'all,

obviously. But, but the confronts of Chills, the Cures Blades, for their base in the wrestling and and all that would be a game, maybe a little more

than the Eric Lewis. For more that he could escape very well there, he has a lot and he's got and he's in position of disvantage on the ground, and he

is a guy that is a guy that, he's a rankyed after you and very above of Curtis Blades, he is a guy who is

very popular in the States so you get a lot of you get a many points of people, you get a lot of

a guy that the fans goastain in comparison of the Curseblades that everyone know that is a guy is a guy

is a guy really, but there not there people who got him because of the character

plays says more about you as a athlete than than than than you than you

than you can't the Derek Lewis you get more more moral with the fans the people got

of him so more people I'm going to do Rue Lutat yeah.

I'm talking about I'm talking about this, I'm think it two million

two million two million of million of followers yeah I was a man a

man a popular very popular even even, even even after after he

got he got he he took short to that that that

that that that he was a that he also it's a guy

he's a I've been in, too, you know, like that's two years. So,

it's a kind of a guy that is a good person who's a stupor two tauts

two times the fact what you said the factor blade could be a lot to be a

good to me I'd get a blade and then the guys say really

really this guy is different yeah so so it's those

factors but but for what you said I want to I'm going to go to get a

integral in a category in the category so I think the thing so that's no way

in the two years so much so so so that's so so I think so I'm pretty

that I'm so I'm trying I don't know if I did or not I don't see my life my life

a flash so that it was a lot of this is it was a lot of But there's interesting, it's been so interesting, it's been

so interesting, it's going to be being that's going to be the that's going to be a secret, it's a big of that I'm going to

be in a hour and the man, I'm the man who came in a bit complicated, yeah,

came to three derotas, uh, four derrots in five luthas, from the from the

lute of the Lottes, but in the last, he took the Marcos Peson and,

po, it, not, no, no, not, a good-concement, a julia to voodora to open the lute,

he's a little bit, he's advised- and the knockoutio, rapid. You can't that he comes this form, also,

knowing that with you, with you, he's just it's opening space for a key, and then, the style

Malia Domenadov to amassar for over there, to be able to get to what you what you're, what you

think he will try to try to do that Robert? I don't know, that's

my impervisable, everyone knows, uh, there's there's he'll be

he'll get in the there's making, he's, he's, she, sent you,

there, this, this, this, this, contra, pat-and, yeah,

we're, we're, we're, to be in, got to be getting, to be able, to be

to be, there, I don't know, I don't know how he will be too, but,

it's, so, the, it's, the, thing, He does that's sara, no, when I'm going to

to finish that grade there, and then you have to be smart the time all looking to be in the front, you're in the

hand, and then to go the game in this lot. You got a bonus. As the three victories

in the UFC, it's an objective also to, put, to put, to put, to put,

put, but also enche the bolso, never been being in. It's always very well,

a finalization a, a quartizio, and the and the patron doing the pics for the it's always

always good and we're still looking in the better than better than better than because

it's a real thing it's a like a official it's a a thing a thing

we have to we have a show and we're we're we're looking to get to get to

the bonus we're going to get to buss bonus and then

I enche the money the boxed be it is the expectative

of the people of the people the people of the people of the people of the people

to get to go to get a to get a group with you know with you know

I'm in the stas of the I'm going to go out I'm got to

good people very you're inspiration you you're for

you're going to get a four people don't for people

all to all the guys always I always say, Victora subbing, you're going

there, will be in this one, this is a place in San Francisco, and I'm saying many, not so

of the Bahia, not so of Salvador, no, the Brazil, yeah, the guys, the people,

boy, Marad'em, boy, they're all right, they're all a lot of, so much, community

good, a certain way, so you're talking about you, for you, but, the Brazil

all, all, that's, this, my life, me, motivate me more

more, more, this energy this guy, but you're a lot of a little bit something,

it's a thing, it's a thing, it's a whole, yeah, he's been in a lot

principal, a event in in-cass, but it's tradable to you, but it's super-expercial

really, it's been very much. The Vittor still not did not not

know, but I think there's chance to be on the same in the same

in the year, you look at the day 5, Vitorga against, after just to

three games. I think that this game of Villanova, just batted a martel, and it's a guarantee, and it's a sub- to Sari-A, and the victory, yeah. Oh, God, God,

we've got this access and I've got this title that we're doing, we're doing a good campaign in the tournament, and I want to go out of San Paul,

directly to go back to the barradown. I'll hear of my passage here, I'll say to my person, to go to start, to get more

to get more to watch the game, and he's there and he's there livebrun, I, with my

my team. you you win a war, the victory in the day 5 gain a

guarantee the idea to the A, guarantee the the title the B BataFouca

champion of the series A we'll start, it's all all in house so

so yeah in the Botafowl yeah with a title but the

but the but I can't callejado yeah let's mathematics am

I'm confident but we're a pass It's a lot of money of grace, yeah

So, the team did a final in a year, I think I would have a European

then I guess will be yeah God God God you'll say me

me and just to put, so to finish this part of this lot you can't put you

put it's in the division and so you think the way more like they

they're remarked the battle Guillem, my president is studying

the time are studying the other the other the I'm like the

second you know I'm in what you know I think I know

for the Lorde I'm I'm not going I'm I'll ask

the fourth or the third there I know

I think I think you don't I think I'm

like some kind too a man that's be a

lot of an look interesting for me too. After what John Jones

did he did he confidence triplicated for this lot of the non-johns don't

know the question it, put it back back after that the matter,

and it's exactly the yeah that the actually like the

lot not be this type of this type like to like

it's like to but what I did after the

encounter there between John Jones I saw, I said, I said, if the car

when I had had stren no-noe with the Jonjones, like, I know, all I know. I know. Like,

a guy, an guy with an inspiration in the world in the world of the lot. I don't say,

no, the world of the lot, in the thing, in the guy that everyone,

poor, don't have been able to have been inspiration. And when you're going to try

a idol your, for you, it's like you, it's like you, the,

the trainer to do you to train with him, and you and you ,

and you have to have to the trainer to do you do so for you do more

than he. This is, this is, this is, this is, so, you know, you don't

lose, you don't have a respect. You know, do you, do a lot of, a man that I'm,

a guy that I am, a guy who I'm, a guy I'm, I'm, I think, I think, I think,

I think, he's, respected, Joe Jones, respector Joe Jones, and he said, he said,

this guy really is the guy really is the white really, it's the barrio-dobrata. It's

sinister so, I think, I think, there's, there's, there's, he,

got to get a so much to get up there, he's over the man, there's,

he's, he's good, no, he, he, he is a guy of a guy of a high-level,

but he's just the guy to try the guy to try to him to try he's told he's probably he went to respect him

and he's not even never had time to do not he just got over him justly

you see the difference of the he's he's peeva he's he's gonna he's gonna

he never he's and John Jones he he just in a form different he's a phone

different and the jones poor don't know the I was going to pass him. We'll see the proper

of the novice now and then it was like the next he was trying to to finish. In a form that nobody never ever

nobody ever nobody ever anyone ever mann't even just to finish for a photo that you posted on Instagram

there's a time some time in some time in some some time with Wagner mannour how how it was the experience

yeah to put a façah rosa over to the training in Salvador A man, it was a thing, a little bit strange,

Guillermo, a doctor my doctor my doctor, now, an adult therapist there's a man, to say,

for me, man, a man, you know, man, he said, I'm, so,

well, then I'm saying, he said, and he said, he said, he's a man,

he's a man, but I think he was a guy, he was a car selling to be

to go and go and go to go, he'd be, but he's he came in the night

he'd he'd be he'd be he'd He brought him here. He said, No, I'm going to I'm going to

contact with him and then you go back to him and then you're going to contact to the guy in the hour,

then he Vagna Mora, you know, send him to see that I'm a guy so, so I'm

so, I'm so I'm bad news, I'm not even he puttack my friend, good time, back time,

he's Vagna Mora, yeah, and I'm Mora and I'm Mora and Mora a man over the man,

he said to he said to he said, no, go, go, va, go,

to be in a midday, kind of, to be in a , tini tini, no, he's not a beleased,

and then, no, I'm, yeah, a quarter I'm there, I'm not, and then,

then I'm saying more nothing. Then, when I was in other day, in the fourth,

he said when I was in the third, and when I came to say to he, and then I'm said,

and then when I'm, when it's, when it's, when it's, when he said, when he said with me. And then I'm saying, I said, I said, I said I put it on the kimono,

I put it in the top of the top of the arm of the point. Then my friend Samuel, now, he said, I was saying to the rest of the rest of the last year of the age, like that Wagner, entering, we, we're, he was in a family, he, he was a friend of him. A man, simple, man, simple, man, a big of him big of him. He got, he said, then my colleague So well Rapids, he's a

man, he's a man, he's not like that I'm looking like, like a

like a lot of there's a lot of people there's I think it some some

something something of a officer a captain no that's

like some some some some some that's some he's

he's he's he's he's my trainer Yori Mora said

Vey Vah Mora I, Putta, what I'm then I said, I said,

I said, Wagner, Wagner, said, he said, he said, he was thinking he was doing,

and he was going to be, he said, he said, he said, he said, I was, this guy,

he said, but I said, I said, when I said, I just came here, because, poor,

I wanted to your academy, and I wanted to your family, personally, you'd like, you're giving the name

of Bahia to the world, yeah, I'm, receive, I've received various I was a gooder of you, that you're a good guy

a good guy who's we're going to be on training with you here massive, nice, enough, and a guy boy, it's a good way, great, people, people, people, people, people, people, people, people, came, we, talked, who, trained, or, boy, he said, boy, he said,

a good, that's a lot of, it's a lot of, a train of you, it's been, differentiated, part, like, you, he said, and he, he said, he said, and he said, when, when I was in Los Angeles, there, I'll talk with him, now, he's supposed to have

something there's you want a message to me to be in my time,

I'm gonna keep in the contact, when I came to come to you're in here to train with you

boy, see, I'm gonna see, I'm a story of a story of life,

is a story for a person, for a lot of people, I'm, I'm,

I, I, I, I'm, I'm, I'm, like, put,

a, a pastor of the cinema, poor, for me me, me,

how he said, the, train, and, boy, this is very good, this is very very good, I never imagine that this is happening in my life.

In fact, I never would imagine that this all the whole in my life, I think, I think of the most of the

most of the I never imagine this, that's going to get to be my life, so I'm a thing, a lot

to be afts, but I'm always, I'm always, I'm always, I'm a man, you know, look,

how, how, how, pooh, you see those guys there, how's the guy there's a lot to be, oh, I'm going to

go, I'm going to I'm going to the same person, the same character, that's the same the same

the same guy that I'm, like I'm like I'm never than I always, I always for everyone

that's, that we're that we're is a passenger, pass a rapid, so we're we have to let's have

our legado, we have to we know, we know, we know, I'm just, I'm just

for this to all this in my life, and, like, and, like, you know, I'm saying

from a guy who's in a guy who in college of cinema, a actor exceptional, porre, special,

and so much. And the jujice of his jubb? It was a rosa rojo is a rosavertero, he's just been making

a marron? The man, in Gremelme, he, he, he, the guy is a man,

the guy, not, a man, but he, he, does a bar aran aran right, man,

a guard- chas, and I said, like, Like, like, if the guy demot with him, he goes to the cost. He goes to his cost, he's a fast.

I'm going to, he's not, you know, he's not quite, come back with you do with you do the guy, no,

if the guy, he's going to, he's going to, he's not, he's not, there's no, there's a difference of the

difference, the five categories different, then. The part, he said, was that he went to the

trainer, with my trainer with the trainer from the , or no, we're and my

internator, I think 41 years, 40 years. The guy appears a man,

he looks a pedd, man, the guy is the guy, the man, the man, he's the

more, man, he was the , I was, I was talking with him, if he, he said,

he said, he said, you're gonna be, you're gonna be, because you're very,

and it's, it's a d' d'n, man, man, a man, a man, a judge,

so juit, the juitso, the juitso, so much very very really the very

the other side of we're in we're in another we're being being being being

being being a lot of last year on FSA Saturday justly on the

day of the final of the Libertadores in Maracan against Bocas Juniors how I

feel with a question that I'm my case it's being kind of

it's very stang man really I'm I'm not in any

of any of the scenarios this happening but it's it's like

God can so it's the way that God I'm probably

not going to see the game I'm going to be in the final of the

final I will have this sacred champion I'll be to be

my penalty I'm going to not to be to be

to me because I'm a tricolor- fanatico, you can't make you,

but mesh, but mesh with us a lot of the You know, you're going to be the last hour, more than most of the card preliminary, it's coming to 7 hours,

and then the game of Flunense is 5 hours. Then, or Fluella, or will have been champion, or, you'll be disputing, or not going to be able to play on the hand. It's better that, for example,

you're going to be in the final of Preliminar, or even your luck in the card principal, because it will have an opportunity to see the game. Yeah, I would never I would say that I would I'd say that I'd like I'd be

professional, I'm not making with me I think you, I'm going to make you a little, I don't want to make you, man. Until the euphoria to gain, too, my God, I gained, you know? Or the tistheism to lose, right?

Because, then you're fawda, man, you're going to be fired, man, you're not going to be a point of the other? Tava, me, was, yeah, was, yeah, was,

Very, very very Trist Yeah Imagine The team of today

would be that's a woman is that good a good question, I think

this team is more courageous you know but the other if you put to

put in man to the other is the other I think the man to

there's Tygo Sylvs Tygo Godo The goal was eliminated. Fernando Enrique, right?

Gabriel, on the lateral right, too, he was sure, Gabriel. But this team, I think the

technical is better, I don't like to go to many things, he's more more than I, did you, you know,

the t'clock too? No, I'm just a botafol. Ah, so you're so you're happy of the people.

He's always a lot of the year. I'm the The The team in the Prorogation So it's a covado

He's I don't know That's the I don't know He'll take a Zague, Botting, he's going to

the team there's a team I think most courageous I think And what the Poppeat Profimene

in this book? Car I think it will be a first time Horrooos not will

have football Second time will start to and then the Fulminis will be letal and will

get a, and capable of like, say, several goals so in a second, because when

it's out of the Bucca will be able to and then the part of the people also, but it's

a great time, horrible time, horrible. So, poor, you're perfect at 7.

M. M. Pumner's been to the European is the European victory, not you?

Oh, no, no, that would be a perfect. I remember you're a

guy, I remember that you're a man who is a man a new union a promise of the European Brazilian is a lot of time

every year I make a list of the promises Brazilian to to get to look to know and I

putt the name in the list of 2019 and now in 2020 you're coming in

the FECC there there was a little the time then he then he was

he was what you think you it's it's it was being the this,

this, this, this, I thought you would be in 2019, but maybe in 2020,

the pandemic, it's a pandemic, it's a way, it was a way, a, a,

a little more less a lot more better than a fC. Yeah, that's what you

said, you said, it's a very interesting, man, because the happened

very very rapid, I picked the centuron the chute I've had the actions dominant

and I with three Lutas DEDs was trying to me to be to be

against Lucas Meneer the former saying that I had

the people to look to the goal to against any

against but we're sometimes is a young too Mature

I have many lesons not only a of the MMA

is a sport ardu if you do all right you have a chance to to be chaste and you're still with more chance

even but I've been my own with an arm quadrille man maxilar then this

also helped to come the pandemic I still not not was contracted for any event international the

only event that continued to do the fight was the was the last was there

no there no no I'm I'm after the pandemic and I've got

my first derrota and I'm sure me help you know, I'm sure me helped me

really to get a time, and you're thinking that all the thing is you're

also have to get to get to get to and you're you're

not all not all all right there's there many things in the I've been

I've I'm I'm that not I don't lose what you are good and

to make the and I'm I'm sure I'm sure I'm sure I'm going to I'm going to I'm sure

I'm going to be able to my pluto after the was the first one the first that I

felt that I had done all so I'm so I'm so I'm I'm there and had

a performance incredible I got to knockoutia and then also

I've had the same preparation very, very, very, very much the preparation

for the with the point of the ball and then a performance more incredible

even. What I came to the conclusion, with this time demorado in the

future, the the lute is a very difficult. I'm a guy a quixiex

yeah now, yeah is very carimbed and I don't enter with an

azaron yeah I'm I'm accustomed to But, I'm I'm going to

an performance is excellent I have 99% of certainty of this I know that's not that's

something I'm not about me, not about the people, I'm very confident that my

performance will be excellent you know? You said since it was 3.0 the D-D

was trying to get used with the question and you think that you just

you just left the your head before when I went when I was when I was

they're not going to be me, they're not going to me, me, to be able to any of one, he's trying to the guy, that's a

very experienced, that's a lot of a lot of C. that's not going to get to, maybe a other other streaks, get to

the lehams. I'd be able to this before the end actually, but, like, the people,

not you, but the people in general who, like, I, want to put the experience

as something primordial in the world of the world of the lute is very important the experience. But for the only thing it would be that perhaps, perhaps,

some strange would be more, you know, with a gunna, there's many people who are seeing there in the Brazil,

many people, especially that LFA also, that came to the Contenders. The Mark of Dekheese is very much,

but I think it's a game, that's a game, that's a lot, not the group, not the group, like,

so-ke, we're, it, with an steant that would be to tunking the game and the

sometimes we're in this but it's getting the novice exactly to take the place of the most

old old the order of the nature is that's this so sometimes to get a guy

that's maybe maybe maybe it's maybe maybe even more more more than

than there's there, don't there's there not much it's

difficult Mark of Jackie that would be a an stearante, you know?

As times even more, sometimes more, for you're being sincere. How is you go to start in a new

union, you know, you're from a promise, a guy who's a man who's a future in the sport

for the day, but there's got to you know, he's talking to the first of

the first of the first in the kind of a guy seen as a person being,

my father he's a fachach black, of Jiu-Jitsu, and when he was more new, he'd in Leder

when he was there, there was a little there, no a subrading, a little little bit of the little bit of

the Pard's, and then did that my father, he said, they said, they were not they've

made a new but they've had to go to the Mitteroy, moved to the academy, and all

all the Codda, and I, my, my, my brother, my brother, too, Luta M.A. too,

my, always was me a little malukin, we always always got a we're going to and my

my father he, he, he, he, he, he, like,

he, like, to put a lot of the people, we got a people, put a

lot, put a lot, put a lot to be in a battle to be to help, to be in a no,

no, not, no, because I, I, I, I, I'd,

chiv-v- car, ch-virated, that, shut- shut-s, simply had a

lot of chute-old, I'd go to football the day entire, in the first, in this,

I'd be used to show about the other than the TV, my father and my father would

me incentiv- and then- just of him and I'd try-ean-a-tain-a- time, I don't come in the new

union, with Master Al-Sando-Solda Sousa, no-se, you will know, you will know,

has fallened, unfortunately, by the drug fight, the Jandau Fight. The Nengal Bain, a big first master, of Maitai.

And then, we got a base good with him there, but my father he always never was going to say

Jiu-Tz, but not not say just Moytai, not, you know, it's got to a day

needs, it, better, it's, it's, it's, no idea, that we're

not there, no idea, But we always demonstrated much a lot of to learn the things like socava, chutava, justtavs just about

with a lot of he said, he went to dojitso. He thought no DEDA, no Mesh DEDA. There was a person to get a RFT

to Marceo Cromado in the time. There even Sening Botafoil the lot of the house, my father my father preferred

do you to do you to put there to Metsdard opened us the Deneer, We started to in a or a commercial

with 9 years of age I'm 9k 1, 8, with Rodrigo Ruiz Subrino Mark Ruiz that was

an ignorant man, like this the American the way we're always a lot of a school

really a technical too but you know that's like that selfageria really and then then I'm putting a guy

to say in a porrata and a we started jiu-gits and we did you're doing Jiu-Gitz to compete Jiu-Jitsu.

We started to get to do you-Gitza. I don't me I remember, I've just a derrota in Jiu-Gitza, a derrata

a bad to be a braque and the my professor of Jiu-Gits in the time,

he was Danilo Scherman. Also, he's got M.A. Jolns, he said, he said,

you know, he's been a RALD a M. I'm in the M.A. And we we didn't

tibio not, man. We just we're, we're just, we're 14 years the K1-13.

He called he called us to come back to see the men and the team in the first there

a guy we're seeing a man Josealdo no was nobody didn't know he knew

he'd see him he'd be doing a show in Tatane Shaolin yeah

there names that the people know but Marcelina Freitas

John and Eduardo no in the initial voo voo

do Dundus did didn't not streante even, they were an

an amador even, and we're in a little in the middle of the lion so, until we're

to come out my first my first bar was the Claudia Godin' God Tomor

a porrata I'm a porrata I'm a poorada I'm a man, but I'm in the

we always had been this to do you do you know, but in the end of

we're we're going to we're getting and I think the Dadia

valorizes much this, there's a guy, Othena, it's very hard, there's a lot people who

appears and desist because it's not the pressure yeah, man. We'd had to be

the day the day and thener to in over, trainable to know, I was conquistering

my space. Then when I came more old so, I started to get to get to

get to the front with the guys. Then I became more even, I began

to be back to back to get a promise of the team, so when I

saw it was one of the main of the main of the main I'm a finalized in

18 seconds in my second the second the local I'm 20 seconds and the

Joseodo did a matter pointing as a point out of when I saw it

happened it was all really really when I saw it was the

most the time the but all many many many

years training during during the Colom no no

without nobody saw a bad pancadaria internally, got a ball pancadaria. And not because San Paul

I'm a victory so too or you think it will be a, a war

a war a war a war a war opponent he is very perseverant

he never was nocauti in the life uh, the two

last month I don't buskeing I'm not buched I know I I'm

I'm not I'm not to do the way I lute that I lute, trying to

read the moment of the way to evaluate, and not me to put much too, because

and go to go, solta my job, solta my shoot, I have contundance if he

take, he will feel, he can see in the first minute of the first round, I can

see the the last minute of the third round. I think that, by the

way, he can, so, there's a chance, so, so, to happen,

a knockout a rapid, no discart. But, but it's it's a lot that I'm most

my Jiu-Jitsu, because the people don't have idea even of my Jiu-Jitsu, but there people who think that I'm still

better, so I think I think it can happen this little in this Lutta, man, to be very

sincere, even more he more, you know, he's a little man, you're kind of, he's a

bad-bara- so, so I'm, So I'm trying, at least in the start in the lute of the locus of his own

and then I'm going to start my job, get him. From the other side of the now we're going to

Wesse in San Paulo in a bushy to recuperation against Vink Pitchel. Hey, my friend, my friend,

I'm madatown, I'm, I'm feeling well, I'm feeling good, I'm impugated, I'm going to get to

get to get to and I'm so, the Vink is a, like you just said,

is a a guy very, yeah, I think it's a old lot, I think it's a good lot,

it's a guy that's a guy who goes to get to come to go to the show, as I'm so I think

I'm a good lot of this, I'm gonna come to this first time, in a FC coming to and a verrotta,

there's a time that you had been there's been there, like 10 years of that was like

that was like that was going to get with this sentiment, that not a sentiment new,

but it's a I guess the time you don't, you don't have in your head to give a walk up to over the same, no. Ah, yes, with certainty. In the first moment,

we get, it's, it's a thinkative, and it's thinking where we're to have been ridded. So, like you said

now, and it's something to be, I've just, I've, I've just, I'm, I'm, I'm going to get this derot, I'm

now, and I'm using it as a I'm a combustion. I want to get to get to get to provary and I want to show

that I'm an athlete that I'm a matter of the tops it's a question of time I'm

going to be between the tops of category. It was a day bad the

my battle with my battle under the non- menispros him

because it's an athlete a d'uris he provo it also

he provo this more I'm not I'm the guy who don't I like to give discuses,

I don't I don't give the night of him not it's a night, so I think the

day four in November in SC, San Paulo, you will see a Marietta different.

What was the lesson that was this lot of this lot of he? He was a

man who's a man who's a very experienced yeah too, for the guy who has been

career during in the Brave in other events just per per day that not the meditone

no, Capu was a veteranist who was a man, and from the whole guy, he was, what was the question,

what was the what was the cause, all the night of the guy, for the guy who's the talent too

and then the middle of him, but what what happened in that night there?

I, when I came in house, after the lot, I got I came

with a little I said, I said, I said, I'm, I'm, I'm,

I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, we're, we're, We're doing. We're excellent.

We're trocators. We go out of saying in a man. But it's in MN.A. I would very well, I'm a façed preta of Lutte of Lutte. I could very be

been have tried to put him to get a marraud, give a calmada in that game of the aggressiveity of I could.

I'm, I'm a façed of Lotho Libre. I believe that my Graple is a a repel a gregel

is a So, I was letting him I want to knockoutia, I want to say in the man, and not is this,

I'm in my next lot, I'm going to do my next month, I'm going to go back, I'm going to go back,

I'm going to, so, so, not a sport so of a so to tryaceau, yeah, so I think

the new the other in the lute for the was this, I, I, I,

I, I was, I was, I was to make more than he in the same,

and maintain the I didn't have necessity of this. I could have put down, a marra da Luta, venceded for points, but not, I wanted to prove

that I was a better than he in a trocaation. I think that, in a certain form, so, subbed the head that he'll call out of the voodoo, he said,

that was more one that, that was more a nocaltown and kind of to make of make the last to make sure when you see

the opportunity? I don't say that I didn't say to be to the head, but I wanted to

try, something or better, I don't I don't I'd like I don't want to the FCRILL

less than my knockout against the against me I'm gonna I'm gonna because when we're in the

F.C., we want to we can't create a each other my thought if I'm put more

a knockout here I go sub to the head and will be a car rankiated

in the problem so our not that I don't that I have my my head my head

much good in relation to so that I wanted to approve I'd I'd get to

get to get to get to get a little a real

the first the work the first together in the other once in

the new in the F.C. Rio did so both and go to no F.C.

San Paulo, yeah, in the same night, imagine the sentiment you're anxious for your

life, you're focused at your lot, but you're your little to work

to work to do you divide the division all the It's the first The first time happened It happened to the LFA,

we're at the same night in the same event So, so, so, from here, we're doing to do this, and we're going to do the card

principal of the FCC San Paulo, he will do the event, so I'm going to make one way does do that I'm feeling

this, that, it's, to put us to put to you and he to play in the same card,

this is a a chamois more a more to the more to the we're going to we're going to we're going to we're going to

show that we're going to make the people who are going to be able to make the how it's the how the heart the family

the parents but I don't know the person would be nervous the first second and then then it's just the first time and then it's

my family see un uned the family is very great I have I'm all eight friends all the

all the my cousins, brothers, brothers, and join us all the world past and you get to be

all the world do you know, are you are more eight? Are you no more? No, you have a

more more more than you have a more more than you know, the other than I Jami, Samurai,

then I have a man who has been there's a and more eight brothers. That's that was

just you and the samurai, you know, the same Gabriel. That's the but

But how is it this tradition of you three? There was the side of your parents, Tios, someone more

that had a relation to the other? No, the more my brother was the other same way,

he always he always was in the competition, in the time he was the Valitud that he was

all the six times, so he came to do it so, the sono of his

was going to get to the F. So he had been he had to to par, and he continued the son of his own

in me and Gabriel. He came to do a lot official of Valu-Tood, of M.A. How is the cartel of him? He did six luts, five victories

and one derrota. Five victories for knockout and one derroth. All right. All right. Yeah, all of Brazil. Yeah,

he is a champion Brazilian of kickbox, champion South American of kickbox. So, he realized the son of it, then.

Oh, it's it's a través of the people. And how he gets when you do in the same night, because he has a trainer, he gets divided as

the trainer, and the heart suffering in dose of duple, yeah? He suffers as a friend and as a man, right? But he is a man very good-cabecer, he can't administra, even when he's maybe nervous, me

a little accelerated, he not demonstra this for we, he passes, every moment he's passing a ton of a ton of tranquillity for us, to not, he's a guy very good-caperous. And you're your

and your friend Gabriel, he was a champion of the LFA there's two to never in FC

after the never to get the NIC Daube in NFC San Paulo who is a guy

very experienced who's who's who's what's the expectations for this lot of their

yeah I I believe I'm I'm suspect in I'm so I'm

I'm I'm with him I'm I'm so I'm so I believe that

will be a good. I believe that Gabriel will be going to be the other first in the

finalization of Gabriel in the second round. I think it will be the first time that the

last he will go to start to he's a he's a very very a very a good

aggressive, no desist fast no so I think Gabriel will finalize or knockout to him

nocauts the Nogalach also won't be Gereley Alves in the yeah we're

You've seen to You see to To find with him In the back After he's We got to find We're in the Antoin't even

Inottos But never But he'd Yeah, it's To end up for the Yeah, it's To find out of Yeah,

Yeah, Yeah, No, No, No, No, No, Fettin'

For the It, will be all of the Brin' We're all We're We're, we're

We're, we're October of The FECC Contest's Bucasks, in the UFC San Paulo, is one of the

distacks of the Brazil for Invicto doing the first of the UFC here in territory national

how is the anxiety this emotion to make part of this FCC in San Paulo. Fah

Gila good night. So, it's a sensation that is indestructible

you, you're in house, in the gymas in the major gymas in the

Brazil represent in our country. So it's a It's a part of the We'll create Every more,

Performer every more Performer every better, I'm really a show for the galena to value the Yeah, value this experience that is

the UFC in the Brazil You've had You've had a opportunity to Doors for the FC out of Brazil

After the after you're done in the Contender did very Lutons did very Lodas

Arabes and before to have this chance to give to UFC How is how to

come to seen as one of the of the Brazil in the division of the middle in a middle

a big in a car of rechia of the future and the guys that have all

to bring to bring up years in the future yeah man it's a man to be

an honor to talk with these guys but this energy that

this energy is lot in the year when I know when the first

recently the UFC, Riu, I've had the opportunity to prestige to the Rio, I've re-meted when I'd get me remeteer much,

when I'd in the events of bars, events menores, that's really present, because it's very close to

the octagon, and see in the proportion that is the family, the ginesasas, that's nother, it was a

non-saltia really, so when when I'm when I'm saying, I need to this guy,

I want to talk, this guy, I said, I said, I'm a person, I said, with a, another,

for me, that I perceived to have to be able to some posts before. I said, I said, I want to go to look at the progenital there.

What's the thing you think of your old your adversary? That's a guy who's a first time that he was contracted

he was a time he came up he came over more derotas, he went to for Kid Warris he turned the champion

there to go to the UFC and now so it's corresponding to the expectations what the

people were the people expected of him the first what you have chasada of this

new phase of his time to octobero well, Dess is a guy a very dangerous,

he's a reverse of the first of the career in the UFC, but as you said he

got him got him he put two victories when the guy was durissism and it

is a guy who also he goes of this trocaation a man a lot

a lot so there's a great lot, a guy that was a man who was he was

a lot to be some my suitable his so I think all with this will be

a great show it's a guy who also don't want to get to get to get to get

to get a matter so I think it's a car that were going to show what they're

going to talk I remember you did an interview after your last

your and you cravoh that the the lot of you got to

you got to this look you this look you see when you

see This this Luta, I think I who also don't go to go

to the not quite the no nocautia don't noh you know, you know

you like it were so two guys are people that are two

guys who want to but also me don't have to end up

I'm not I'm know but I know with it's

but it's or will try a lot we're going to end up

finalizing someone it will not he just suffered some chocals in the career

in the first he was in the first of the two of three devotas were to knockout you see

in this the best of or you look on the he's looking to look at back back that maybe

maybe it's better maybe it's better he's a new he's a guy that's

a new he's he's re-invento so I'm going with the mind abet to make the

my job and appreciate what for the situation I don't I don't think much studying

the other my adversary neither I prefer prefer to be much now so I'm

think you know, you know, I'll preoccupy to work in train to my

moral of my time my wife and my resume to get to my

M.A. complete like I said to the result of we don't guarantee

but the show is guaranteed is so I go so I go to

do my independent of who independent of who's you Was it, like it was like to be after FEC,

to not be able to see doing the video of the other other than more? Yeah, because I accepted a lot

in the time my career was a part of a part of a thing, a lot of different luts, with great names

in times in times very quick so I never been much to study the adversary. I always

was, for, to see what I'm vacillating, if it's a guard a bad, if it's

movement that's a little bit I'm always I always I was to work in the defense to put it in the person who has to offer you.

Because it happens when you play much in the response of what he has. I prefer to do my game and a zah. What he was to be what you were trying

on a day with Christiana Marcel, his trainer, he commented that your employer is Derek Brunson. I thought about more elitory

that I didn't know that he would be that he'd how how did this connection of you two there? It was a

thing very balooka, because I would be in Dubai there, and I received a message of his message

of his company, I'm saying, he was bringing an agency andres a new athletes and stuff,

I was like caraca is, is it, oh, Derek, Bruceon and so

so, so, so I know, I'm not so I'm so through the whole

things, I know, so so much, I said, I, say, I was like,

Then I said, I made a rollada in him, I don't accepted in the first because he said he was starting to becky and then didn't know how he'd

work, but he was, but then I was, I got in, he came back, he said, I said,

I'd just call on the F.C. You're with a cartel Bonspeo, because I was all right, let's try

try to me put to me put down the F.C. I'll ask me with you. Then you for that he bought in the

content and I signed to him. How good. How is Derek Brunson in the back doors in the company?

We know this he's a little but we know this side of his life of the business, man.

It's a guy. It's a guy who, like, like, like, even, I don't say,

there's a little bit of some of communication, we've got to some of the United there,

and all right, it's a man, if I'm not my question, me attend in the hour,

if I'm Paul, I'm trying of something he providencia, all very immediate. A guy, I have nothing to reclamar.

You know, I'm saying to thank you. I'd like to say, I'm very much in the Brazil. The guy, because in the case of the Lut, who never gets to be in, converses,

with some of the training, you're saying of some things. Really, does a job of an job of a present there, you know, so,

so a guy, for, very sang-y-bon, that, if you'd be depended to me, if you need to do this job,

I'm a carriever, I'm a carriever with him he's a He's a start Marked in the NFL

for 20 days after a time I imagine because of this proximity he's not not being

not be present in the FSA Sa Paulo yeah I think I'm not the point

he's in the lot of the so I think he can't be a career down

now so I even I even I said I'm just my part my part

so in my part in free and the work on the world and I'm in 2017, it was in the gymas of Birra he did

the fight the lot of the lot of the other and knock out the other so to the team

the arena is a start there yeah I know I know I don't

me remember of this fat but legal a good good good good

yeah it's yeah it's yeah it's you know the

your your your opportunity to your pro you're you're

getting now but you just has, you just doing a good job

you're a kind of, I'm a person, me call out with the guys top-meels, so you know

opportunity I'm going to get, or you know, let's go do this, I don't get a time,

I'm going to get to time in the time sort of personality is you when you

do you do you do this kind of I'm doing a moment you're so I'm

am a man, but I'm too with opportunity I'm in I'm in to be

to appreciate I don't want to be that's a little guy that's that's to pull up the top

and to force the process like I'm here I don't see any a guy I don't

many people all the FSA but I don't think this person I don't

say this guy I don't want to go this guy I'm trying to get to get to all

so I'm so I'm so I'm going to do something process of this is

part of this is part of this is I don't I'm tryp by the top.

He'd be able to get to a lot, not receive a lot, because I'm going to be able to be in every

way, I'm going to be front of all in every way. So I'm going to do the

way to be a career longigua, it's having a money, do you, do it

do you have to be able to make a way to be the right. For certain, just to

be inevitable imagine a day a trilogy, you and Rodolf Belap Bender C

P, you, you got the first, you got of his content the series

and now he had a lot of opportunity, he got and got he was contracted was contracted

after after this rivalry there's a there's a rivalry between you because he he said he said he

was contacted of the FCC and see he was being in front you in the F.C. Yeah

with a with a maguazin yeah, he had been a two, the last time, but he

no guy's so in the bombar. Like I said, I don't have an enemy of the total. There's all the same bar. Everyone, all the sun, everyone wants to go to the sultan.

I believe, if I get to the silturon, first, then it will have to battleer much. And if he will, I will cast him, so, it can't be with this trilogy. If it would be a thing, it's a good thing, too, with a guy that, po,

the first one, we don't see a lot. The second one took a a war, right? So, you know, it was a a good one of the war. So, so. So I think it was a third I'm sure it's a

great way and it's everything to be the most of the world of the story but this will be more

to the future let's be much the thing to happen just to finish when it's when we've seen the

when I'm watching when I know he he's gonna no guizan no let's quiet

just to just be just a what's what's poor poor, poor,

poor, you think we're we're we're doing the man I'm

let's say that the Christian he moved to the odious. If you get to ask him to him like,

Christian, you want to you're saying, ah, I, but if someone to defy it, to say,

about some bobbri- of the way he's he knows, the best, he'll have to be

in the same day, at the first opportunity to appear to appear. So I

think it would depend much of how was made if someone would be some

something to be something is there. It's not going to plant a Cement of Oddo him, then. Yeah, justly.

That's that the way is bravo a boy. We're doing Elvis Bremer that's a football

embalated for two belles and important victories and how are with the heart

to this lot? So, the spectat is a very high is very good,

I'm so much happening from planed now, I have this plan for

23, in fact, I want I'd be finalizing the year and running in Brazil. And, poor, I'm sorry, so blessed with us,

so blessed with us, I'm very much long of the car, we're going to do with the hour, come on, we're doing to get in that first

fight, I'd want to I was ready to that was a point for that I was really, a level of the UFC that I'd

be needed to be to be there, you know, for this the look was that was in that way, and just the

we've made to make, we've done to make, our our our our technique

when the technique when the technique not sufficient and some things I'm not sufficient because rest the heart of the

other the athlete has been a great person I believe I think that I'm going to be

my last my last my last my last the victory when it won't he left

the bonus to but he got the thing but I'm I'm sorry

maybe maybe have to have to have to suffer not

so through I'm I'm much Seng, but, but, I'm like I

say to the people, I'm going to always, depending on anything, I'm going to be to be able to

me to be able to get to be able to be able to get to be a lot of the end, I don't know, the time,

I don't know, to do you don't do anything because I want to do something, being being able to being able to

be able to get, I'm things are going to be a car letal, you know, both in a part

in the part in the part the part of the shone. I don't I could most I could most my chum

but I'll be sure I'm showing my chum also I'm trying in my show I'm always there's a lot of things that I

know, maybe it's a time now in San Paulo can be a test for this. You know, you think the the game of the show of

the same? Or you think that for this lot specific the a trocaation is the

sure, I'm not I'm not I'm just to say, to say to say, I say in a parroard because I

know, I like that adrenaline have a man, no no, no, no, no, no, police

to separate, not there, no one, it's all you know, I'm in the other other side, I'm in the

, you know, is the differential, there's a many of the fear of, there's no, I'm going to do it, I'm

doing it, do that, I'm just supposed to do that, I'm supposed to and you know, and a guy who

really, you know, a man, a new, too, you know, I'm listening to do you know, a man, that's a lot

that's a lot in the way, but it's a a game for us, both in the part in the back, to the

heart of the time, the car, the car that's the thing that's the way of the thing that's

he's a man, but the last time, but in the situation, is a amount of the thing, but it

got $50,000 dollars in the bolso, imagine that the thing that's for this

lot, the objective is more a bonus? No, no real, it, the objective

is going to gain, I'm going, I'm, dependents, the defendant, the anniversary, independent of what happened, what

happened, what happened, I was that was there, bonus for there in the past, was good, it was good, he helped, my family, I'm a guy who has two children, I've got to help my mom in some other things, but I've got to go back, now, now. Now, the Rigo Vicks that's right,

this guy, man, has to get a poxed on him, you know, but I'm going to get a poradne, you know, but I'm just that all the most people, always everybody goes to see. I'm very happy, I'm very excited with this part of this car man of the LUTTA, this is the doctor,

Dr. Ladelah, Gora, Edward Amora, a partner of training of Jailton Maladino, who brilli in the show the first year, the UFC,

just the same in San Paulo. And Edward, welcome to podcast. How is the emotion to do you in the first

in the first? So I'm always, I'm sure, not? Until today, today, it's just

to make a brain, I was in the time, I was talking to you say to say I'm,

just imagining how it was being and now, now, it's coming to batting the door

the other people who are you're going to do you're going to work in Vegas and you know you've got to get the way you're going to

go to contender in Vegas and is having an opportunity to try to do you do you have experience

of the event national that the FC will have a dimension major because an event a very

a event a big, a venue public, total, the climate I imagine that will be

different but are feeling to do do you want to if I would be

if it was in Vegas, if it was in a No, no For me, the realization of a dream of my I'm doing, I'm doing I'm doing, I'm realizing

the dream of being in the first Lutte like in in the Brazil I even said I said I was like I was like I was

I got a bonus of my dream, you know? It's my country, I love the Brazil and for I'm putting

to be for him in him I think I think that all the I think that's

That's, that's a major it's, so, for me, I'm doing a couple

there's a and there's a cereas in the bowl that's a malleadion in the last year,

exactly, the team will be a family, will be a lot of people, the people,

the team, the team, there's been in the person, the other different, the other,

the focus is the same, it's the most, yeah, the focus is the same me. In fact, I'm going to

feel more with this. I'm trying to feel more more, but it's going to do right. The end will do right. The end is the

same focus, the Marl. You think the other with this talk now? I think yeah,

because this man, she has had a experience there, now, she's got two of the lot of

Cairard. And the other would be the other would be the same for the two.

But, no, I have a head very good here. My head in my

mind is a good very good and I'm so much so so I'm not much

a lot not for those others for me me know I'm talking about Patera

yeah a 10 years 15 years and he said he he said me that

he was a man impressionated with a maladino but that there's

there's a and the Toulola there who has a malladino also, there's a paledado but it's a

maladino by a mileadino by the style to get to get back to make up to make that this style

of this style of the there's a but it's not to put to but you do but you do a game

impugent not it not it's not get a get a impur to get to

to get to get the objective final that is knocki that is knocki

yeah exactly we have a we have a game we're always in the mind. Never

to leave the hand in the mind of the mind that's the only person who is the only person who is there are a redone

so we don't do this vacill so we know so we always we end up a lot of all the we're going to

it's like a rule of our law not we're not we're not that I'm there's just for this

not I think marredo I'm I think one or two I think one or two I think so no

I decided, independent if for finalization of a knockout, but we enter to bring with a heart and give the most. We're training this form, so no, there's how to be different in the fight, right? The style in the Luta is going to be

up, without getting, and it's a much retrad of your career, right? In less than two years, it's not? Yeah, justly. And we took, I've had I've got, I've had, thanks a God, to end up was,

I was going to go to eight luts. Poh, I don't I'd have a lot of I'm going to

I want to I'm going to and I'm going to do my own I'm not I'm not I'm

so I'm so I'm so I'm God's over so I'm you're able to make this same

rhythm in the FC as same as well maladino did which is poe

one at one after the other Maladino little time too maybe at a

maybe a victory to have a With, with, with me, I'll have the official to say, Lausanne, with two months,

two months and a minute, three. Because if they're all in a month, I love to be to and, the, the,

the battle made a chamber for us, you know, the three, it motivates more. Not that when we don't have a lot,

we, we train is demotivated. But it's different if you have that obligation, there's that this lot, so,

we're training specifically for this I think more more more more more than I

it's it for me will be in the same way more more than let me

let me let me let's be the career you're going to start on the Pesopalya but you

have various on the Pesomot because I'm remember the I'm gonna because I'm

no Pesororor even yeah the Pesu Pallia is your your your

where you see in your self physical or you gogita like

the sub-ed-a-katero, the pes-pest, the peso-pest, the way, but the piece-pene, is so a scene, in a lot of the peso-pegues-pre-necess, he can't be more than the other back to the other, because he's got to cut a peso, and all right,

for you, so, you know, paria, is the ideal, what you pretend to see. So, initially, it's a piece-o-palia, because I want to get a first one-space there, and I think that I have

much advantage in this category, for being more elongated, for being a little more than the more than the more for being more for being strong I'm very strong

physically, so I gain a lot more and I'm really very, me feel strong and I'm comfortable I've got

a perjury of the so every every way at every lot to be more to battle

to battle to battle to so so it's a category that I want

explore but I pretend so I'm in the music I'll to look at

the music, which is a category that's more fortinia, but first I want to explore well, I feel, and then, it's all right, but then you know, that he's going to be that he's

waiting for us. On the other side of the line, we have we have Fabrice's on day, that's Wednesday, a one championship for a different, not, man,

not be a lot of MMA, will be a lot of kickbox, and contra the champion of Muay Thai of the organization.

First, how is this negotiation, where did you What did you You've got you who you

did you did you offering? How how did you have you did this when I went to

when I had much interest in to look to kickbox because I was more active in

kickbox but it never roll this opportunity and when I was when I

turned a champion we didn't have said after some it was that appeared the possibility but

not to to fight against the Reggae, it was against the Panicenong, which is the former champion, that he ended the sturaul in

an end-doping. So, when they were offered the opportunity to do with him, I gave

a thought because I'm more active in the M. But the opportunity, uh, to me

to turn a champion in two sports simultaneously and for I be the first champion of MMA

to do this cross-a- to go to strike, that me interested and I ended up saying, and then

after the pastanone got in an ad-dop and they're they're to be the opponent,

and it was being now the the lot of a deal with it was in her and it was going to

the beginning of the beginning, it passed to the beginning to the November,

for what he did this trade data there? They said they,

and what I found that, that in this event of October, we had to be a common event, and they were more interested in putting a lot as a event principal,

and for this they did a muddance of data. How is it? How are you said, you're focused on the last year, you're doing more the MMA, but you more than Thailand, you train, you're, is, you're

are circled by specialists of Maita, of kickboxing? How is it for this adaptation for the style of the game different. Yeah, so, like, all of my

use of M.A, even I have to train to Ress and Jiu-Jitsu, I focus in a part of the

process, I continue evolving a part of time. So a major difference now for

this camp was that I had to do the round because we have a minute to three minutes,

so it's a round that has been to more movemented and also the question of the lube

that is the MMA. Now we we're going to be with a box. but I

I I liked a camp I was a very long was six months of camp so I

I've got to be enough to be very comfortable I'm feeling I'm re-rembring those times that I was

kickbox and I don't have to be preoccupied with defending quater I don't have to

worry to try with many modalities so in a thing so it was a camp

I've I'm I'm I'm feeling very confident The other adversary, he

did a career in Muay Thai, is going in the busch now of the tincturon of kickbox you think

who you think you think you think he's with a M.MA for kickboxing and having

done a career in kickbox or he moving the the big differences

of a sport for other to Maitai for kickbox so I think in the

part the majority of the people will say that he has the

B Mai for Kikipx the difference is minor than the difference between the

MMA for the kickbox but I think that I think for the fact of I've been to

have been many uses of kickbox I think it's more more more easy to me

re-rembrer to my mind and remember the way that I love I'm

but I think for because that many people don't me know the majority of

people are more favoracing him but the my my head I think the

advantage in this case is my way more comfortable when the regra the keybox even I have been

all this time focused on M.A. I think I adapt to well, I'm adapt to the regas

the kickbox. My game is very favorable in the regra of kickbox and I

think he he perj when he try a different of the time, because the majority of

the arms that he is very dangerous in Waiai he not can't use

on the kick box the the the clovel clinch

He's not He can't do No, he can't do do a Kik-box I think I will have the advantage

in this Luta. A we're not a site, like a sherdog of the life,

so, the Kik-Box, but you did, how did the kik-box in the career, how is the

Kik-Bok-K-Bet in the sport? No Kik-Bok-X, I'm 29-1. When was was the last time you made a lot of Kik-Box?

It was was in 2009, I think, I think, in 2019. But it like to go to ride

of a bicycle. You don't forget. No, forgets, no forgets,

it's, it's a time, for the style, for more that I use the same arms,

I use the soco, the foot, but the style is different, the guard

is a different, the hands not are so long, so long, it's a little

time in the beginning of the camp to me adapt to the style

of the but the arms are the same but now

I'm practically like if I were just on kickbox my style my style is totally adapted for kickbox

this is a question I'm interested that you interested in the last the challenge you put in a bushton

against a guy who is the champion of Muay Thai and now by the title of kickbox and by

the side there was some moving the your boss that you will be

the same you would you would receive you in a defense of your centauron of MMA? In fact, the Bucce is is minor.

The Bucs is minor than the Buccox is more than the Bucco of MMA. So I'm doing this more by the side the challenge for some thing that nobody

never did than the other side. And think in Boucher of other Cunturel, you can get a Degh of his Citon of Kikbox

and think of him at last of him at the centeron of Maitai also? or will go back to MMA after that's? Now, my intention

is to a M.A. But depending the proposal, with certainty, it can't happen. If the Five Me Hears is a little compensated? Exactly.

How is you think that this lot is that you think that will be a time, you think it's the tendency to be a war to tryation

for five rounds? Or you think he can't be a lot really movementated especially in the first round,

because he comes a very force in the first round of the first in the five rounds. And in the

back to M.A. in the year of the idea of who needs to be your adversary? Or, I think it's going to happen

other to define who will be the realtor would be it because he won't know a knockoutty

that was he was going to the last few seconds in the ultimate luteferloman that was a other guy

who'd be very well also and he's been for points you see this trilogy with Lina

that was going to the year or you think he has been a name more more

more than that's a lot of the Linnick is a possibility with certainly

he he was the guy that was the next the

last he was a possibility but I think the fact of I've

been been two times would be more a new

disaffian so I think the With, with certainly, I'll happen the trilogy

in a next year but I think it would be interesting I'd defend the Zerangang

against a new disaffiant. Who can you see in this position of a merceador?

Ah, it's someone of the ranking, yeah? I think the the, the Koreanian,

that I came in him of but he gained the last, he gained, the

but he The rank, I think that now would be the Koreanan, an adversary that would be able to I think

to look to I think is the I think could be the challenge because the league

is very really hard so I think he's he always will be between the five

there's he always be being put a question of I've gained him

two years so I think it not very very interesting to make

the trilogy this yeah to the same guy, three-versed-segated. So I think a lot-nuch-d-d-de-le-olde, and then we do a third. You think that the Lineke could end up going to an position, like the Max Holloway is of the Volcanoves,

that he is very good. He will gain of everyone, probably. But when he gets the Volcanoves, he will be able to lose. And the same thing of you. When the Lineke, he can't end up, he'd end up, but gain the rest of the other. That's all. And it happens much, yeah, too. also,

he was the Utica contra the Adesania also, yeah, it's a guy that's the guy that's there's a lot

but it's not much sense if you're not really always the but I think I think now,

because the names that in the category, this situation is that's happening, it's been

to be the one, the event that's always always a match aberted

as a champion, not so do lots in other sports, like it your case

now, but in other categories, you know, you think in, who can't do you know

in the CISD division in a MMA in the second centurral? Yes, with a question, I

think I'm really a new, there's much thing, there's a thing to happen, but

it's like you have many possibilities, yeah, I have a possibility to look at kick-box

mointed at MMA so you are three champions that I have a possibility

to look without no box too that is a thing that me interest a lot of

a opportunity to be a opportunity to do a box. It's one of the thing I always this possibility, but futurely,

I think it's a possibility too big category and to try out I believe that would be difficult for me

but sub-d-category is a possibility is a possibility, yes. In the moment they have two champions, there's a champion

and there are a champion terino, the Kaitang and the Teng Lianli Lai Would it

have some preference or not what it's not no, no important who we're

going to it's more by the question, yeah, if you go to get to

the sturon so, so, no, no, there's a but now, I think

to focus more than to be in the we're in a challenge now in the

other another other center and we think to focus in this We'll get here with the edition of this

week on the podcast, I'm going to give us on Valmonauretino, Bonfim, Eduardo Ronda, Brenner, Kau-E, and the Fabrice Andrade, and, of course, the friend of course,

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