MMA Fighting - Trocação Franca | Tudo sobre o UFC São Paulo (+ Gilbert Durinho, Caio Borralho)

Episode Date: August 23, 2023

O UFC volta a São Paulo após quatro anos com Jailton Malhadinho x Curtis Blaydes e mais sete duelos já definidos para 4/11, e o Trocação Franca relembra a última edição no Ginásio Ibirapuera, em 2019, e antecipa o próximo show com a presença de Caio Borralho, um dos confirmados na noite de lutas. O podcast recebe ainda Gilbert Durinho, que fala da recuperação da lesão no ombro, o duelo entre seu ex-rival Khamzat Chimaev e Paulo Borrachinha, as novas promessas da divisão até 77kg, e muito mais. O melhor do MMA brasileiro no Trocação Franca, toda semana, com o jornalista Guilherme Cruz e convidados. The UFC returns to Sao Paulo after four years with Jailton Almeida vs. Curtis Blaydes as the main event on Nov. 4 and seven other match-ups already official, and Trocação Franca looks back at that 2019 show to preview the upcoming card with one of its stars, Caio Borralho. The podcast also welcomes Gilbert Burns to discuss his recovery from a shoulder injury, the upcoming clash between former opponent Khamzat Chimaev and Paulo Costa at middleweight, the rising prospects in the welterweight division, and more. Listen to Trocação Franca with Guilherme Cruz every week to hear from the biggest names on the hottest topics in the Brazilian combat sports world. Follow Guilherme Cruz @Guicruzzz Subscribe: http://goo.gl/dYpsgH Check out our full video catalog: http://goo.gl/u8VvLi Visit our playlists: http://goo.gl/eFhsvM Like MMAF on Facebook: http://goo.gl/uhdg7Z Follow on Twitter: http://goo.gl/nOATUI Read More: http://www.mmafighting.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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and representing the MMA Fighting in Brazil, Guillermo! Cruz. Hello, hello, my friend of the 10thesim of third episode of

the podcast Trocausanne a new house about this immense Baravit's to be the champion the

future, while Maris Shogun, who also also had a moment against Paul Craig, the first

he was in front he had a revanched after that's a revanch was a long to be long as to turn the phenomenon

of audience that is today, but it was a drooled in less 90 seconds. The real

is that quite half of that card not is not about the contract with

the organization, is being investigated to the FBI, but suspect to manipulate for the cacete even and much

a lot of podcast, Kyle Bohalio, the other after 4th of November in San Paul, so had seven Lutas of M.A.

in the couricor today are six victories four of them in the FC and two new contendezis and now he enter in the event

and a most of the major from a M.A. Especially in the Pesombe a podcast more one way.

Hello. Hello. Falaala Al-Gelgerger Poh, we're just right I'm excited to this UFC

San Paul there, man, imagine, after doing various juts out of now,

finally, having the chance to be able to get the time, I'm a question for you, I'm

think the career in the M.A. Imagineable that I'm in a year, but you were present

in the gymas in the Berauera, in that early event who we've here of Jakar

with Blahovitz or not had an opportunity to be there. In fact that, that's a

man, my mom, was, the men, was, the my men, was, the my

I don't go, because I had an event of a lot, I was a time, you have to get a lot,

and it was in the same day of the day of the so man, all the whole of the house was, you know,

and I don't go, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm going to go to

the gymas of Birapoera there, so I'm there, but I'm, but, now,

man, being one of being one of one of the things, being, so, I'm going to be

so, I'm so, I'm happy with this, and the opportunity to to be in house, po,

is incredible. It's the way to be a spectator, no, you're going to to do you to do that's

right, right? Exactly. God's like that. We don't don't bring against, Nuka. How is it?

First, this lance even, yeah, I'm not saying, he's, he didn't know,

but how you know, you know, so much, you know, because you were coming an event, practically,

it was in paperview. How is you see this, kind of, to have this roth of being like a guy

that's a that's a different that's from the first from an event yeah, all the first were coming events

just of aubb not was, but more this now in-caver now, but it's a more delicious even, you know,

I see that the FCC me and it also, I know that I do this return to for them

in number in media I do do this work that is very important that is much the most

important to all, but this of the job of media, to appear, the connection with with the fans, with the public,

the connection with the proper UFC, to say the first of this way, and they're very, they value in this position of the card.

For me, a honor, you're doing a event, that's the manavit, that's a, manhadion,

the guy, that I, think, is the next champion of the FC, saying the contender,

maybe he will be the third champion, he's been in the front, you're there be top 10, will be

going to go, I think, I think, I think, and, po, I'm happy to be in this position, just to thank you.

And do you know, continue to end up performance, continue to continue doing my work of media, I'm doing the channel of YouTube,

I'm in negotiations with other, with other, other, other businesses also, so I'm so I'm feeling of the importance

of this side media, to work your image, you know, you know, you know, that obviously

the part more important, that is the thing, you're the game, so you're, you're going to, but you're,

if you can't be the ones but how it's the when you look when you're going to

the FC and that's the same importance that you know the that you know they're not the necessity

to work the proper image and that's, but all of a way, not everyone says that

is that is that is a sort to do say, but there people are simply

averse that I know, that I don't go ahead, that don't talk, that you don't

don't perceive that it does part the game, you have to be you have to be

also yeah. I'm I'm pretty when I look guys with with potentials to be great

greats like I'm sometimes just learn in English there's just just to talk a little more not need

not need to say shingar, not need to you know, I think the type of person you are, what type of

product you are and how you will be to use the UFC as what he really is that is a

a platform and it's the major platform of the world of MMA I think

the athletes have to start to to start to see that this job,

this show is what the UFC got, it's the entertainment, and it's part of your

Trump. When you sign a contract there, you're not signing a contract just to look to

you're signing a contract to appear to signing a time, for you, for you, for you,

are, uh, are, uh, see, so, uh, so,

uh, so, you know, if you're also, you're gonna, you're, and,

and, And, of course, gain the lot's the most important, not just gain, but

have good performance, so I think it's a line tenue that you can not go not just

to one side and then so to not the other side, not just not just to work,

and then just to get the the one to one, you know, one, it's a little

more, more, one, one, one, another, more, but you

try, this image and, and all this platform and this apparition that the

apparel, the great, the great chave to the career, for you be remembered for much time in a sport,

I don't see just more a guy who did part of the FC, who did two, three-lutas there and went and went back. No, you're a

guy who will be remembered by the team, that's a great idol of Brazil, that serve of inspiration, that have stories,

story of life, that serve to inspiration for the people, that the people connect them, connect them, so I think

that's the great lance. When I see, various athletes with much potential of this, that have

stories of life are incredible, but but that I'm not telling the story of their, I'm I'm pretty, I'm I'm trying to not I'm not

just I'm, but I'm doing the example, and that these people perceive this, and come after that part also, you think that this this, this

Luta, for being the most the most of the world, in terms of money, and all the events in the Rio, I think there's a glamour

more for generally, but in San Paul is where it is where it It's, where's the side of the FCC in the

Brazil, you think to do a lot with a little a little for the main

in the city. It's the opportunity to you'll have to be it because today, you're

from the fans of hardcore, the guys who watch in the past past,

but in the great public, it's a bit of the to have

the poster, and people, oh, man, this guy, man, this guy who,

po, pesquis you know, you, and then, you are good, that you're doing and pass to

to see, too, people are people out of our bowl. Well, with a lot of the missions

more of the M.A. is you can't get to get a ball. I think that is an opportunity incredible to

fur a bowl. I've found that will pass on the channel about the event

complete, in the band. So, it's an opportunity to be to show,

to be the people, the market's that's that's that's also receive in

we're we look. And when we don't are not looking, we have to have a point of of rent, there's, something that's a point of I'm a lot of course of course, I'm a partrocyon of the steak, that's me helped me

help me. But I think this opportunity, is a lot on car of San Paulo, no, the heart of the MMA, the Brazil, where there's the major

teams of the world, po, chitboxing, here, the fight nets also, and various other teams, I think, it's an opportunity

unique, and I'm getting, and I'm really, I'm very and me feel very very much of being a event, I know that

will be a photo on the post and on the cartes and be able to be a lot of and the most important is retell this public

when the people go to see my social social is a social a job, with images showing my

story, mosting my time, mosting my life, I think that that's the people

rete and really to connect with you. So man, I'm, I'm relusent I'm very

so I'm so I'm so I'm going to be in the story, this, p,

nothing pager. And you expect a I'd an adversary of more name for this

because you got got of various guys guys more of the more potential than the men,

the guys very darks but they're many people, and they're there's a guy from

there's there that's a one of FC got the the Bruno Rook

very well a guy very good but that maybe even for for the fan hardcore

not not you know you're still you ever someone maybe

was in four segued in FC? Yeah, for you be very sincere, I would be

I'm going to give a top 15, something of a thing, but the Mick came with this Luta,

saying that even had not had a top 15 for me. I'm a man of company,

I'm here I'm here to do the F.C. P, 30 years, doing the Merec,

they're in position that they're in day, because they know what they are doing what they're

doing the plan what they have to me, I know that I'm just I'm just I'm just and to give the performances.

And in my my head, I don't no bit frustrated. Of course I want to top 15, but if not

did it, all the way. In my my head, I think so, the more more time to make the tops,

more prepared, I'm going to my interviews. I'm just getting more more experience, every more more than a

time time after a lot of different from a guy duly that category of the same. I went there and

finalize him in the second round. So I just I'm getting more more

in the octagon, more in-tumated with all the entomated with the entombed with the lot of the lot of the

more I'm going to be able to be the objective final is always the thing to the time that I'm going to

be a percent amadurced and I'm going to be to be there so I'm to get to get to

thank you thank you so I'm so you're so I'm that's nine victories the last

the other other in the events there in Asia Europe and and all all those that he won't be in the first round,

none of the level of experience, but... But... Exactly, but he completed the service. He was at least he was getting those

guys, he went there and he went to the style of his stools of his more of the risk he does more than just to complete to,

he entered on the UFC after after a guy 12-12, man. So, they're a

scheme for him to enter there, obviously he was coming, getting, well, but if you look at the record of his record of his record

good even, you know, you see, well, this guy should be good. All he perdeal. So, they did all right in. I have a bomb to launch in the Semana the Luta, about Luka of Lolaute, that I'm saying, but I'll let's go to launch it on the Lutta, keep atent.

But he don't know my level, car. I'll prove more one way that I'm on the level of these guys. Enquant the UFC Kisnerk, whether against these guys out of Ranking, without name, I don't know where,

they know that I'm the remedy for these guys, I'm going to be done to train I'm doing all right, I'm doing all right a show, more finalization,

if God's if God's and I'm sorry. And I said, you said, but what he can be offered to be a pergoy?

He is a guy long, he's a guy, he's a guy great, and maybe this is the major quality

of his he has a kind of a so I don't go back to the office, I don't

me projecter to him to to get to the same the same the error of Bruno Rook, I have to to be in to me, so to

call him a little more, so he stick to do the goal, and I peg him to preventive, so it's more this is the strategy.

And you see finalizing him, you'll mention it, to finalize him, he has various victories for finalization against cards of cartel

suspect that you said, and you think you, you know, you know, you know, the ground, he,

pick him. Ah, with certain, it, it's just, it's just observe our our cartel,

the people with whom I looked and the people with who he's not he's a guy experience, he's a guy

that's a lot of times, not I'm talking about going to be a lot of my life, I'm going to

be preparing to the world to the world. A champion. It's like I see him, the champion but I

go prove to him not in my level, that I'm going to the level of this champion

there. And with he's over he's over he, he to he's on much thing, some people

some people did very many mory to make a kimura because long, he can't

get to get a little the arm, but I'm even a bad for the way of the

way, he's so I'm put out of the costes on the time, I'm going to

get the personal his postes, and I'm really the many of the finalizations of the

costas, but I'm also I'm also the catagatam and there the triangle of the

lot of the time because I'm seeing that I'm being not being the costes

and not they're not being the not going to be The vendors of the

ingress started, I have certain that you're supposed to say that's that's the end of the

last time, the end up the final of the team that you tosses. The final will be be seen in

Maracanan maybe there team Brazilian there's disputing and in the

and in the same the end of the GP of Formula 1 in San Paul no, no Saturday

there's the sprint race and on the the career, so that

that's that you said, the ones of the people are going to be going to be

important to be in the middle of the other things as far as the Fisgare more people to encheer the

Ribera Puerra now. Yeah, and the other things about the people are getting there

on a lot there's a man event, and the back of me, it's been very well, the organization too,

the UFC is postating in this rena and, man, I I've been saying that the vendor of

the end up the end up for the FC Fight Pes until now it's not it's very it's quite

like the and today they're to be in the social and saying that's making it

so so I think will lot this gymas they're they're not over they're

not they're not they're not in the not so it's for the

people that people that the people so much even with

this the concurrence, I think we'll have a space in the heart of the Brazilian, the people

will want to see in porradorataria. The lute is something that is inraised in the beginning of the community,

so the people get to be porrada, the people go ahead and I think it's not going to be decontionary

this card, so, so, so, go, the guy, don't come to get a little bit of

I'm sure, I'm sure eight luts for event, for not the UFC in San Paulo since

2019, I think they could to get with a foot more on the door on the card,

to bring star, but I'm think it's a fight night too, not it's not a

paperview as we have in the New New Year but looking this card, as you

say, it's the type of card that can't be all four or five years, it's the type of

you look to look to look at back back and look this guy that look at

this guy that today is a top 10 of the organization like you look

for temp times and see that in a F.C. San Paulo a little all the fight night,

he's, he's, he was talking. I'm saying that this card will have the next Kabib, but, but, so, people, in the UFC,

I think it was in the UFC of Uberlansia, like the Kobb-Korviton did the first the night. Like, in Uberland, it's a guy

that's been a champion years after, and, and, and, and, the level of the talent,

that we have, not so of Brazil, but various gringos, too, it's a thing,

to be able to be so, yeah, with a certainty, car. I think just you look at a

Marietin, car, Marietin is coming very very good, with five victories all the finalizing in the first round. Man,

the guy, it's just going to everyone, there's me who's being very much very much good,

but it's many other other other other than other other than a car

of recheated of stella that stills not come to be getting to be able

obviously that all obviously all on your no your

mode but I think more in the So, as you said, look at all right, you say, look at the city here in San Paul, Caio, Marlady, the Vito, and all of the others.

I think, poor, the guy, the guy will say, po, I'm, I think it's the most important, to do you, make part of the story of the people. With the same, Al-LUce-Sleasoned, you're Maladino,

making the loutta principal against the Kurnes-Blaid's, is a test definitive to show if the guy is ready to dispute the throne, then, because, before to pass from the world,

that he fronted it's you know, you know, you know, you know, you know,

you're doing a first, how is the force the guy, obviously you are in categories of different, but how is

he was he was a the game in a lot of grappling? Yeah, the maladino is different,

man, have been most done that's been a lot of great arthurable, but you

can't see the ruffances different in the car. I think the principal, the Malatian, an athlete is an athlete

very experienced, car, you know, he in this we've gotto in the lute, not had finalization to any of the

time, that's going to get on the coasts and who's going to be my coasts and I said, I said,

I said, I'm going to get this this lute, and then, to see, how the guy is experienced,

how he thinks very very very well, he thought, he had much time to say, he knew that he would be

he would be not could see he did the his cost of hiscoce, I grew

the head to finalize and he got to be the point of he was a second he got to be

so you can't understand the level of the competition that he has other the person

he is a guy, he's a guy, he got to more of 10 kilos he's

very strong I think he's going to be more a lot that the maladino

will be probably he's I'm gonna try you get the topit for

we'll finalize, the luts of the card without without the pastichism, it's prohibit, I'm not the

those, the topits there, you know, maladint, you, you think you atropela,

you, I'm in doubt in who you think you think you think you think you

think a lot, but we're there, Denise and it's very well, it's very very,

it's a great, Angela Hill, a veteran there's a year, what, what,

what, what, what, what, what, the palpits for this

the I think I think that Angela Hill can leave the rounds and arm

a lot of the but I'm going to be doing a jiuits to get a good news she has a man who

got a she's a proona Brazil, that's a athlete who so it's so much in this

lot of there's the rhodovina the lends the jiugit is coming to victory for finalization

and in front a armie petrosian that also who also who've beencees in the last two in the UFC what's the poppite for this? The Petrozan is with four

luts in the F.C. Just a derot for me. The Rodolf is being well-em-en-belled. If the Rodolf not could put this lot to the floor, this is a lot of

certain that is that is a guy very very strong, a guy that chuta a lot, but this maybe it's a kind of the he's trying

the redolf, he can't shoot him, he can't on the is 100% Rodolf. I think if Rodolf could imprimed the game of his, Rodolfo left this Luthorpe.

The Victor Petrieu, you mentioned in victory, got in VITU in the career, got two in the UFC, also came to the Contender, yeah, in front of Modeste, Bucalch, that is ex-campion

that of Cage Warren, there was a first passing in the UFC, came out and is back now, what you're what you expect? You think it's the

most test, for the Petrium in the FEC, no? I think that this this warradoria

pure the Vito has been to be intelligent in this this is a lot of the

time to get to get to go to the grpler, you know, and the Vittal is proven that

there's a greatpper very a good but I'm this I'm going to get no chance

and in no piece and I'm there's a revans with a revent with Dottelmeys

a lot a lot a little bit a Ravance a Rousoush three years

after he's been been sent The Zekomah finalized he well, he's coming of two

victories, a month a coaltier Warlovesk in the last last year, in this re-encontro Brazil or

the Lorde Kongi, he can't have revoir? I think it's a story, it's a

zero to get a zero to after to get so much the style of Zekomel

I've seen some of some of his some of his but I know I know the total month,

I think he no time he's not to give him he will to do it and he will

get more a lot of the United the end up the end up the penulte here of the Reneate

Farke-Denov another more a guy that pick there's that came there's bannas the last

the last last year the Capoeira viz two victories too came to come over

the last for the decision you you know that the Rinnate still infilering

or he tropese diance in the Brazilian. This is a little more more

more than a bit more time to be a lot more time to work to work now. It's

very depends much of the capacity of the capital of a factory 9 there is a

guy who put a job of the great very he has had a

good occasion so I'm used I'm always the practice

the lot of maybe my probably my my my team

my my I'm going to be in the day, more energy for him. But I think a lot too complicated for him, like, as well, if it would be a palpit, it would be for... And just to finish, the best way possible, a Brazil and Argentina,

the Elvis Bremer, there's in South Paul, with, with, with the team entire, all right, all of this MEPA's, against him in Pes, who got a first NFC, recently, now a little,

in the last few years. How is you think that's that this duel of football a classic and the MMA,

has rendered good lutees too much good, yeah, obviously I'm always I'm going to

go to Brazil against Argentina, not just not so for this, I think that's

the force of the football especially in the team, the Alves

Lutting in the guys, the guy, the guy, he going to

move making making making a characteristic of them, I think,

the Argentin will succumbed the Elves is a guy that

goes to the the time entire. I'm impressioned a victory against the Guram, uh,

the Guram, who is a friend of my man, he's really in this victory, he was trying a truce in the

lot, and then it was to grow to and it's to go to it's to be a little a little bit

a push-offin that makes this guy in the chute-box and render more than more, this I'm going

of Elvis. Mano, Camarada, thank you much, thank you this day corrido,

and this day, We'll see us in November to the return of the future, sure, thank you, thank you,

we've seen a little before in my collective of the impressive, you're going to be here. Thank you. With God, with God,

so much. And now we will make a talk to Gilbert Durinio that's the rexon

on the arm, the ascension of new talents in the middle, the duel

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this conversation, he's already in Singapore, for the UFC. Now, he's in home, he just just got to back to get back. I'm just trying the

even at 100%. He's not, and watching with the family, and watching the events. My friend, my name, your podcast, and how many

your things. I'm here. I'm here. All right. Thank you, thank you, God. I went to the bestinaries

I went to Chicago I went to go to Boston again I went to go to my father of my film for which I left I left here yesterday I'm playing

today I've trained moderated but you're at least I'm in a tatami training I'm gonna get to get my car back a little

my car to enveloping he's been ready ten days and I don't go there to go back a little bit a a little bit away to

gore to get him and then We'd be with the kids, to do you, and then I'm going to get them, tomorrow, tomorrow, and then,

embarking to back in Singapore. Mania, how are you are doing this recuperation, you know, you're not,

you're in the last time? How is, in what is in this process to be able to get to the training

100% then? Yeah, I'm evolving about, I don't have, no, the real, the part of

more of the first all the arm here still in my armour, still, I'm,

still, I'm, I'm doing, nothing, I'm having, I'm doing, I'm doing, more strong,

I'm able to do many movements, now is the part to gain the force, to work, make, make sure, to make all the

muscle strong, to be liberated, to be able to get, to be 100% to do, I don't know.

So, I've got a a little to make the right, I chute, and I'm injoelial, and I,

and I'm not in this, I was able to do, but I'm doing a part that I'm bagazin

doing the training. So, now this is going to this is a way, you know,

it's a can't do you're not to do you know, when I go to

go to the Newport, I'm going to go to time more but I think it's a little

kind of in the really, I'm in the two months final, but I think it's

maybe there's never to be able the plan was going to go, and make sure

how it's to go more more of a cell latium with me but a single, and a little bit more than

I'll be training. So, I'm confident that we're going to go to go ahead of September, more than I'm going to to be a little

more than, more than a 100% liberated. And you was in a hit very very strong,

yeah, of the other, in the other last two in the interval intense of a month

so, between the Tudu Mardal and A-Dut-D-Lubal. The plan is, we, let's do all the right of September, you go out of September,

you want to be able to try that your plan is to be able to be a little bit more more than a little more maybe in January? What is your idea in this sense?

I'd, I'd, I'd, I'd want to go back long, but I'm listening well the medico there, the trainers for I'd go back

with calm, there. I'd, if I'd if I'd would be to December, but I'd want to go back to travel,

you know, first, that I'm, I'm pretty, like, I'm out of shape, I'm without, I'm in time, so, so, I'm going to get this to do, before, I want to get this to do,

I want to work, get back in the peso, get in the gas, train my brother, start, my brother, start, like, first to train in the gas,

then, then, then, then, then, I'll start, when I'm going to make a lot, you know, when I'm doing five rounds, well, it's, not a thing,

not a thing, not a thing, then I'm going to, but I think, that a data ideal not would January or

February, it's much more real than December. And what the other positive to start to try out of all

to be forced to to get to get a recent work, that obviously, he was forced for questions medics to

not to not to work, it was a year, and it was a lot of a doctor different,

not, when the Rafael of the answer, I can get a, time,

but you don't have time, I didn't train to not to then I'm going to go to go to

and then what's the point to you're going to this experience there's a there's a

because I'm there's a time to comemoral and I've finished the Luda with a

damn for in Miami and I don't commemorate also I've got the

I'm a little I'm I'm in in quits of family so I

feel very when I have my lute it's my lot and I'm going to

do all And it's good that it was to be to be to be back to family. The men are that's going to play with football. It's to do more attention to the family. This is the principal. I've been a time

more for me, too, to putt, to go, the habit of le more, to my mom, to be, to be able to be in house,

to be more present with the family. This was number one. But the the lute doesn't get the case, I listen to all the I continue

studying there. I'm trying much in the things that I was doing the things that I was doing, not not to be, but I'm going to work on the plan to work on what I was doing in the same scout there, working on the whole scout there,

when I'm working, you know, when I'm going to work, you know, like, I'm going to go, I'm going to work, I'm going to work, working various defectosines, various habits, there that I have, to then, but then it's good, it's good, it's good for plan, plan for all the good

family, good to be able to get to get to get to get to get to get to a lot of time

I'm going to be a year after I'm doing a time in a place, I'm doing a day of the

first I'm going to go to Australia will be good, it's been on the other

other side also I'm a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of

coming in contact for I do other other events there's a moment there too

I'm a want to whatever way not that I've just I've already to do that, but I'm

not going to be but I'm not even thinking and when you think, if you're going to if you're

going to you know, it's not to put up a point in a possible a different because much thing to there

will be more more rodata will have more people living or getting or per so it's difficult you visualise

there someone to you encrantar but you can't be a idea more or because you

a guy is a guy who's a guy who Apesad of having the last the last month, the other white

was just the loggios after the poor, the guy macho-and the manchuked the ombro

in the minute, but continued doing the the lot until the final, you imagine

that you are, and you want to try to get to a top five,

get a someone, or in top five or someone who are to come to come

to come the objective. The objective. There's much to happen to what you said,

it's a Mara, it's a academy. It was a lot that's, the lot of, it's a lot

that I think difficult to do you know, but it was a lot of my man, I think it

was the better the thing, I think it was a lot of Mohammed there, I've heard

some of Chavit people, depending on how it's depending on the lot of the

Doun Wendz because there many things to happen the lot is very a lot Pets a rematch

in a re-match automatic There's a re-chav-k there, I've seen something of Chav-K against Belal-Mohamed Yeah, I don't see It's even

good that I just I've done, I think I'm, this is the last was chatted but it was derrota, not can't say,

but I'm per die. But I want a lot, like, no way to look when the guy top 14, 13,

that don't want to docks I'm still I'm going to be a lot good to be a lot that I wanted to be

a lot of that's up here was a guy that's a lot of many people are all the everybody asking,

everyone wanting, it's a lot that I don't even pronounce so much, but it was a lot of that would be

a manor the name of the guy, the guy subing there, it does make sense

to him to look to the top five. It was only, but now, but now,

like, the other other guys, like, no, me interest too,

not a the guy who has an appeal so grand if your top 5 is agarrived so maybe someone who

should be being made very much being in that's not going to see to see let's see

you know what you're trying maybe maybe in the but how was the work of the

way it was you know you you got you came out of you

came to and gave the guy who surprised or you had been he'd get back

he'd put down I would ask you to hear me comment with me, oh, Camaro, he would have

to do part of the other than he was, he was, not have a plan to,

like, to do you want to do you, but I'd do you have to do more,

maybe, three in maximum, and I would be to be to be the

career, and I said, all I'm good, like, it's, the rung that

the guy, too the people, all the people, everybody both of

him, I'm, I'm to say, I'm, So, I'm like I said, but he's

he's just a lot of an opponent and more because he's really in the final of career

like the other not will not agree to him so it so it's that's

a level it's, it's it's a poor yeah, I don't me, I

don't me, I'm I'm in I'm not I'm not I'm not the world and he

the ball is to the Belal is there the Kanzas has subbed

and then then he's kind of kind of kind of how you can't see this

novel of Cove with Leone that's something that he's not an question

he's not a decision by the fact of the Colby to look to look

he he gained a lot and sit in this victory and you

understand you think that does that does do you do the team

that he that he values the a frequency and

that a guy like is the guy that he's a guy that could be this auto

knockouty the ball and the Colby would be a good knockout there's double knockout

there but I don't have nobody but it's but it's a fact that

he can't say but not it's not but he will finish this

lot let's let's be the next the one I think he's

he's he's going to he will get very very good the Kobe I

think and And if Belal really for the prox, I also think it's a lot of a lot of good for the year. And another

guy that you mentioned that's, you know, that you've made, you've done a lot-upus-a- but he's up a bit of barrahing

Abu Dhabi? You think he is a question of time, or you think it's a question of time, for eventually he will come to eight-four,

even more, even more, I think the car grunge him, I think the story of maybe it can be complicated for him, but how is

this subida of his division? I think to do you have to do. A bigotivir, but test to try to find out, car, that I think the Boucher is a much very hard, defeckels, a man by to get to him to get up to him, and the game will get into clinch there.

If the bohachie, he'd can't, and maybe to get his, and make it, he'd get a man, but I'm a very good, if the Camasah there, he'd start, put, he'd, would be able to get in a grader, and the borrachia can't.

Eventually, the Schmaev could get a really bad to work for the Borrachin. So, who have the best in my opinion,

will be getting this battle there, or the Burraceen, peasant, and defending, and it's a

lot of gas, you know, if you're more in the two areas, the borrachin is a trocaation and clinch

defense, there's going, the clinch, a little of a little of a little bit of a, and attacking

and attacking very in the clings, he will I think the I think the Amos going to will be able to

a bigot after after automatic I think he's awesome not there's no, it's been

it, but if if you're arrombo a revanch there and then we'll see what

Chimair's going to do Chimaiver passing by Morachin with all the Rachein, I think

it's not no, no doubt that he's no doubt that he's He'll be the champion that he'll

affect the chance of the Rikans, but you think that in the paper is an adversary,

a adversary, more difficult for the mayor of the I think he's a lot of Rhenernernerner and Rueh, he has a

defense good, he has a juggishito good, not is a jubit of a high level,

but, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, but you

know, but you will be not be any Jiu-Sher- will be the wrestling, and he

I can't defend well, and to make him the hand in the him, man, he will get but the contrary

is the contrary is the true, if the time if he's, he's not, he's been, he'll be in

a rung to the borrachia if you can go back up the box and get, the body, get a

got to get, if the he gets, if he can't, get a lot, I think the lot will be much,

then I'll be to do do a, like, do you, do it, like, do,

do it, to do, to talk about this, that I think that's the reason is the the rest of the last is the

way of the division maybe it's able to make it's able to see him, this guy that will get eventually on the centuron and

all the balance he ended up before, but in other guys, there are other guys more new, there's,

there were Gilger who gained in the last the end of the final, you were there, there's the proper Ramonov

that you you've you've you know, the guy who train with you and the guy who parridden with you

tell, the kind of, is a future champion, the destiny of his own, is to turn the centuron of

the FCO day? I think in some years, I think of a man, I think a man, he's a

man who's a he's bravo, and he said the way he did the way he narrow the practically he would

do the thing, he did this a man is a man is a Chavica, very good.

Some two guys there promises, there's a Jack Delamonica also, who's a man, that's

getting a man invict, also of Venezuela if I'm man, Michael Morales also, a man,

a man, a man, a man, a man, he's a man, he's a man,

he's a man, there's a guy, there's having a renana, there's a renovation, a new t'

Michel Peri Pereer, who'd got to not, but he'd not can't get the

got to I've got to do he's going to be to be a middle of a major but he's a new person

there's a general people getting in Gary, brabo the Chavak very brabo

and he starts Gabriel Bonfey Michael Morale and various others I don't I don't

remember but it's having a renovation grand in a category there so the

only boy have to get to the people the more the new

Megney just just like, like, this people have to be renovated

if not, man, it's quite difficult. You said two guys who have a age

advanced, and just are many experience, yeah, just are in the UFC a much

time. You just did it have been to do what you do you do you

know, for the point, even to even to the 37, that is an

age for a time, but you have a advantage to have been

the time long, the times, you're have passed away, you should be able,

you should be very active, no, no, no, no, there's a lot of the other

the other does the car does a little bit a little a little not a guy,

nojitsu, in the reality, I've had many those jutsuts I,

I, I'm knocked out that I also, I'm not, but in various

other other also, no, there, there, I can't use some good,

I can't be able, I'm very, I'm very , Like, just will say if I I've got to pay for a knockoutiered then, then it's not-da-me-ma.

But I'm not doing, if I'm not wanting to be there more than the restrada and I'm feeling well, training with this guy all. And training with all of them. Today I'm trying to trymar. I'm trying to do,

I'm trying to do with a little position with Yang Air there, movementation. And when the guy comes in Chavis-Katrain with these guys all, out of the academy. I can't make a high-level with these guys all.

When I'm When I'm going to be amassed, I don't like to train, I'm getting tired of training and then I think it's going to get the hour, but I'm going to be a lot of potter to train. I'm

a manikin who I can't be able to trainer, because of the homebred, and I'm going to push the people to help there, I'm still as well as I've got to have more than those years, I think. I think, I think

the difference of the owner-bought that I've faced character to the entire 42 also, he's been a year,

he's more than he than he there's, he's a little he never was a man who

was a brabo, so there, I think physically he mentally mentally, he's in a little

better than there's there's a thing that's there's a lot to be a lot of in this

category in. You're someone like a like a club, a girl

to get to get to the 40 to get in the world,

the DeC, Lutte until the 40 too, but the Glover number one

there, and he looked well over yeah, man, the guy, he was a champion,

the guy, he was a year, he's the boy, the 236 there also yeah,

he's been, yeah, I'm gonna be, I'm sure that I'm more, more,

I'm not, not I'm, no, I'm gonna have a three years, but, but,

but, but, me matter, but, but the two three years there, I don't

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