MMA Fighting - Trocação Franca | UFC 278: O sonho acabou para Aldo? Borrachinha convenceu?

Episode Date: August 24, 2022

O UFC 278 entrou para a história com a vitória espetacular de Leon Edwards sobre Kamaru Usman e foi decisivo para o futuro de dois brasileiros. O Trocação Franca recebe o jornalista Coutinho, do Canal Encarada, para debater tudo sobre a derrota de José Aldo e o triunfo de Paulo Borrachinha e os próximos passos deles na companhia. O podcast recebe, ainda, o faixa-preta Marcus Buchecha, lenda do jiu-jitsu que busca a quarta vitória no MMA nesta sexta-feira, no ONE Championship. UFC 278 will go down in history after Leon Edwards’ epic knockout of Kamaru Usman to claim the welterweight title, and was also a decisive night for two Brazilian fighters. Trocação Franca welcomes Canal Encarada’s Coutinho to discuss Jose Aldo’s defeat to Merab Dvalishvili and Paulo Costa’s victory against Luke Rockhold and what’s next for both in the company. The podcast also features an interview with BJJ legend Marcus Buchecha, who looks to improve to 4-0 in MMA at Friday’s ONE Championship event in Singapore. Listen to Trocação Franca with Guilherme Cruz every Wednesday to hear from the biggest names on the hottest topics in the Brazilian combat sports world. Follow Guilherme Cruz; @Guicruzzz Subscribe: http://goo.gl/dYpsgH Check out our full video catalog: http://goo.gl/u8VvLi Visit our playlists: http://goo.gl/eFhsvM Like MMAF on Facebook: http://goo.gl/uhdg7Z Follow on Twitter: http://goo.gl/nOATUI Read More: http://www.mmafighting.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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podcast Trocação Franca and representing the M.M.A. Fighting in the Brazil Guilermi Cruz

Hello, hello on the friend of Luda with an 52 episode of podcast Trocacacaca

a sub-MMA in this immense in the sphere. I'm Gailam Cruz,

correspondent of the website American MMF in Brazil and I'm

to return this quarter Friday, the company of Lenda Marcos Boucheshire that's a first day to a quarter of

a year to get a year but I'm in peccable I'm gonna receive here the new my friend of Michael Ruehrennerner on YouTube

don't the abdomas more saras to Instagram to bathe a talk about all the FCC278 and what came to come to

Camaroos, Juan Liannas Paul Borrachina Josio and much more all right all right all right

All right great Semana, a lot of good thing about a lot of debauch incessant,

we're always always ready to be able to it's a pleasure more time. It's my second way

in my second me can't be a podcast, It's always a bit of a debauch, you know, has to

concorded with me. The phase not very good, I think I'm a little

disquited, I need to make a little bit to to work to work for Fight

Music Show 2 in Curitiba will have Chris Robboh Lutton of Box Pelé contra Popo

who might mark a molot for Gautinu yeah. It's showing, disembolsting the money,

we'll start to talk about a bigadier, in, you're gonna get a this podcast

Vauaua I've been sure that the Mara Brito will you make you to make

a message to you to do not you do you make keep me

keep good, I can do you not. The judge, the order natural

of the thing would start the event the last of the last to be able to see,

not even to say that's about the Aldo, and it's impossible not to start this resen here

with any question with a question that the Lue Nade of gave in Camaro Usman

a victory a victory there, a guy that was he was to equal

the record Donelson Silva to go that way in the last minute of

the last minute of he was getting, even with a certain tranquillity. The reaction on

a knockout everyone saw, who saw the night saw the night saw how it was your reaction to

get to be coming out of the camera Usman, until that the shoot in the car,

but now the point that the point of some days have been on,

what you think you did that that you did you did you took the Usman

M. M.C. as well, the middle of the UFC as as a champion. It was very

loco now. One of the MMA is a sport encantator for a impoverability

it's incredible the quantity of the result even recinct the proper Rheeiprohach contra Lola Tcheera

also in the finalz and it was a round and Kama Ruzman was something something

unimaginable for who people were being able to the DECORred in combat I'm

even in live of React I was even I was even being with the guy

with the last the last the last time the last time I'm going to be in the local

we're going to put on the lot of the lot of the time it's not that the moment to the other time

the other was in a rhythm very sonolent tamaro doing that the game to armh

the lion Edward's not presentable any type of reaction and simply enter that shoot

do nothing it's a way not it's a way of not I'm not I'm there's

It's clear that William Edwards, he's, of some way, he showed in that goal, he had the influence of the team. He also was applying some

chutes back. If we're we're many times the lotters use the chute's back exactly to confugue the defense of

the rival. So, a little bit he used a shoot back, until apply the chute

out. This could have been also also, but it's something unacreditable,

when it was like, and it's very cool, when we see when we see when we see, especially

these lotters like Camaro Usman, I always go to think to think that's like you look to look to

you look like this malo-noughtiated I don't see a charles brown socialized, I don't

see Camaro and when it happens because M.M.A. us proportion to this

we're like so, carly, poor, it was possible and this design the story of

Leon Edwards of have had to have credited the corner of his videos viras, like, incentivating

him. So, car, it's very fonder, it's very far, it's pretty to come out of the record of Anderson,

what he most of the money is the numbers that are able to get back in the time but it

also, see a guy like the William Edwards, nobody was anybody was not the team,

the family they were in them, and there there was a little before the there was a

little bit a little bit a debate to the or but for other motives that we can't say but it's a

lot of the guy like the guy like you're a lot of a lot of a lot of people we're quite compared to

charles, conquestating the centuron of the mids and and it's the top of the sport.

A little parenthesis when you said, like he was a general when the champion

that he got this mark of the victory in the because it's only the

first the first the first was the second is the second is the stouron of

the category and of the carmarou will have all of your merit, but the Aarison did all this as a champion, being the

guy has been the car my question, the matter, what happened? And...I.O.N.O.S.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1. I...I.1.4 minutes....I. ...p. ...I.O.R.T.O.R.R. ...I. ...I. because the the lute, it's only resumed

just a moment, for a countertoe all the matter of the role that he

was in but he was the minutes not that the time that was that the

commander was a lot of superior no, no, no, the guy

is much more complete, it's clear, the he's, when

when I go to the when we're going to go to the chance of

the roundes he's not, he almost finalized the

camera in the remember, too more than this, it's a

lot of different. But we have to analyze the whole, yeah, if we're to think, the Camaro

domined the most part of the lot of the chute andrew. Tiro the Mettico of Lian Weddard's,

obviously that he can try the cartel, he can't finalize, can't do you know

to the hand, and do that whatever other thing. But what the Camaro did was

much, how I can't say, it was was more more more

you're going to post, a month of 25 minutes and everything, it's much more more easy to think you're that's quite a little

error, this little bit of this chute and performer the form of the way, than what was, than the

Leone Eddard's will have a good moment, more one way and I know, and I

think he will be the favorite. In the trilogy, I think the Camaro, everything did,

he did he presented, particularly in the Lott, I think to the trilogy he is the favorite,

but I think the great question of this trilogy is what the Camaro that will appear because, as same as the Mubim said,

many luthers after a knockout or even after a lot of this, nocout, we have examples there's examples there,

Renan Barone, Anthony Pet, Junior Cigano, who then they're a centurion, were guys different. So I think if the

Camaro would have the same mutator of same, I think he recuperer the title. But it's difficult

imagine, yeah, we've seen, we've I've seen many of these cases, Negu. With a certain, with I think the major perennardor

that not was the Octum in that night, because he was he was, he was, he was talking with the Tarasotte just at the

arm, because he will affect the day of the day of he said, if he'd get, he disputed the centuron. But now,

now, you have to do have to do have to dood there's, you don't have no, but not say,

that the Camaroosman, no, man, I want to try a month, I'm going to try a lot of back, then he'll try to him front a Leon O'Neice in case, pass, as well, it says the logic, that he will pass through the Lentie Dias, but

you think he... He'll have been able to Farnanda, no, there's no, there can't be able to Dries, and pass a front of U.S.M. If the U.S.M. if U.S. if the U.S.S. is at a question

interesting, no, but, to take a knockout these, in this moment of career, he needs to he needs to he can't, he can't,

I think he will, I think he's he's a film like in Hollywood, in finesse in the moment of

his career of his, poor, it's been going to have been a knockout very sinister,

so, then of a time, he goes to the end of the next the next time,

the end of the damage caused for this pernada he took he in a

trilogy, but what it is that he is decided to to do that the other than

the whole so I'm in it's a hard for a field. But it's very curious

how the things muds much because the lion's turning the champion, the two

names that the first came in the first came was the George Mardal and the

D. are the guys that don't have been in discussion. The George

Marisval all, it's all right he has no matter there's there's the

story there the story the power of bargain is very great, he could push the marginal. Porh, knock out of the

Usman, I want to push the child, resolve this question there's the question there's the badger

and say, and then it's another. The Nate and Diaz is another, that's a possible, by a miracle, quite,

there was a problem, of a moment of Lyon Edward. Exactly. He quite did what the Lionel

did not. It's, so not was so not so not he, but there decided

to point to to the guy and be laughing instead of continuing. Exactly. Nite-Di-D-D-Jas, it's curious. It's curious,

how the world of the lutas girer rapidly, like, like, how rivalities always will say more

and they're going to the rumored of the things. But, of the thing I

think the correct, is the Camaro has a chance for the domain of his own

and it's I'm just. And, I'm just I'm I'm trying, yeah, I'm,

you say, the paper, what the Leon-Nes did, and the Deanna-O a ventilator there,

a Wembley Stadium, 100,000 people in an FC. This is the type of thing that I just think the other night, you always say

to do a FC in Dallas, which is this time, it's surreal, too, but never does because never have a great lot

that justifies, that's good that the UFC had this opportunity, there have lulled there's, who decided to not go to

go to the the rebanche of Nate D.O. Kornor, it was a bigot but it was it was going to put up to

put a courage to risk because it is the type of situation that not lot to be a feo, be a

big, it's a lot of a big, it's not a lot of a lot of a public like this, yeah,

and in Kuita, bought almost 50,000 for the UFC, I think was one-9-8

of Lendon with 1,000 stuff. But, but there's America, you can't?

Here is Brazil, for Curitiba, bot or Ciborne in Card, and it's a Anderson, Cibba, that's a car with a pain of

a bit of a cowboy states or then the Wembley, they'd maybe with how it's how it's

the reception there in America, being seen as a champion, and the other nomes the country

in the moment, the region in the moment, the Peri Pimbers, Amol, Mecken, there's many people in Europe the Ranzakimaev Morra in the Swessia

so it's all in the region there's a very important Russian also so you can't do a forceada and try to try to end up a event if it would

be a marvelous Yeah I think what I feel curious to see the work the F.C. will do make mediatically

talking in relation Leon Edwards that I've seen many people here for the people that's here, maybe we don't have this

vision, but there's many people compared to the story of Leon Edwards, with a guy who's a lot

time and came came to be the back, never a never a little bit of and then you think it's

a lot of and I'm also, the UFC have a parter for BT Sports so they

did many videos, many trailers, this countdown promoting this chance of Leon Edward,

videos even videos even videos even so I think this work

has already it's I think yeah, depending on of the hype

there, I think it's not it's a big it's a big, it's a

thing, you know, lot to have a stadium, have to have this guy

all that you have been, maybe, but I honestly, I think the FC do you

know, Dna White, this demora to do this time, it's this cost

much time, exactly for this, because, , the UFC not will

see what do it do, let's see what we're going to do you know, the FC

don't want to do you want to do you're so I think it's a opportunity

to be time to and if roll out, I think will be good very

I remember that the event of the event that did do the

other for the those conversations that the people do you

think go to go the Mott Mott Motton Anderson

Silva Gris Borgia, he got various stars, he put on that event in a gymas for 45,000

people, a paper view in Brazil, which historically has been of that far. The event is going to

this event was doing a matter of that was a lot of which is a number very bad. Especially for

that the moment that I was living in the F. Beleteria in the Brazil not a money

good for F.C. Because the conversion dollar to real you're going to cut it for five. You gave $1 million

of real in billeteria. It's $200,000 $1,000, because it's not the FECD was a lot of two years this year. The first event

of the year did $5 million of dollars of bribleteeria. So, to do events this time in the Brazil

has a prejudice, but in England in the States of Cowboys, no, if all does get certain, the guys not

get to the money, it's money, no, much the money, the UFC is being all the video

all the EU will be able to Brazil but not going to go back in the way it's I'm still I'm sure

I'm sure I'm sure I'm sure that the collective in the public of the event the Dena Watt

said that's a back on Brazil so this of a place for event

we don't know who's we don't know we're not even so the fact it's the FEC

to start to start the main we're doing the channel combat saying entering the band,

to fight, press. So it's a work that the FCC will do, to retomar the territory,

attract new investors, and make the money to run. That is what does the FCC to make the decisions.

Not there. With a certainty. This event of January, I imagine, I'm very that we're very

probably that we count with Zeyald, that in the last week, to the Maravre in the decision

of the decision, to see if we just gave to his chance of his chance of his stuporon not, no,

he's gonna be imagine, poise, he's ado in the rio, he's difficult, because if he got to be a centauron

and the J. Luton, exactly three months before, not it's not now that the Aldo perde

no, there's no, there's a question, but it's natural to imagine that we're having us

that we're natural that we're what does it's what does it's it's that's the

the cold of emotion, the Aldo can have seen that was the last the last time he said,

he said the last there he said with Merab that was the lot of the world of language,

there's a question he didn't say exactly this, and if he was saying in the the cold of emotion

to think it's it doesn't it does the Aldo Merse, the Aldo is the rey

the Rue the Aldo has part of the events of the FECA in Brazil leader

various cards. So it's important for the Aldo, it's important for the public, and it's important for the FC to have the ALDA in this UFC of January. Because depending of who are the leader,

of who are the main event, the Aldo is a guy that attracts the public. So, the design for me is this. The Alder is a guy that attracts, the public, oh, but, but,

but, but, but, but, but, but, it's not in- if you are fan of MMA, you will be able to see the ultimate alco of Jose, Aldo.

Yeah, if you With this moat, it's a post of Dario Aldo, it's a list of a depreder of, not if you're saying, ah, the Aldo,

down the round of Cine, no, it's the last chance of the car. You're going to see the

last month, the last year, the last year, all the God, the God, no, there's a

more, more attractive than that is, oh, but, but, but, but I'm,

but I'm the answer, it's, it's, it's the mispedida of the Minotauro,

I who was Stefan Struth, was this. It was a lot of nobody brought up a fair, but,

bish, it was a minotaur to be distributed in the Rio de Janeiro. So, independent of what he was

presenting in the Kade, and different to Minotau, I think the Algo, was a level of

the local under the problem more of, you know, of a button on the little,

he's not the guy, he's, you know, he says, po, O'O'Lon can't

you can't, but you fall over something in the strategy, in the psychological

So, I think it does it's all the sense, I would have me surprised if I'm not appellate

in this event in I remember that after he went to work he revealed that he had renovated with an F.C.

before the Lutta, assnated more eight luts. The Lute was the Settina

was the Vokanovsk. So, if he not renovated in the middle of the middle of

the name of the contract, so it the way that's this dispeded of his

but you're in this matter. You know, you've thought that you thought that we've got

that we've seen in the corner of the Ketlin Vierra like that this cord, porr,

go to the battle, let me get to get to get this got this got a

bad, especially because the deader for him after he before the second round and said

that he thought he said that he had a bit of a bit when he had to

come to there, without much action to wince the lute? I think

a little I think not to put everything in the account of the DEDE but I think a little

so much as many five percent of the we always, we always, we always, we always,

I think, I think, to say, that's feeling a fault of this type of

postura of DEDA. Now, it's a man very experienced, the Aldo know what

what's happened in the lot, he knows what he's has to the corner of his

to have a vision of the foreign to guide him to guide him during the confront. But not as he not

if he not he'd know if he was a lot of he said he was going to be a really made

and he was doing a much a marrable not was able not not was

getting the I felt you always the end of the but I think he

thought this exactly this sense of this DEDR

really understood that the Aldo was going well, or if simply,

we don't know, we know, go to he's a problem, if he's with a

head a manuched, he can't put him to show to show that he is there

influence the guy to help it's difficult to say, but yeah,

I think everyone didn't feel the bad of the dead

pistol, like you said in the corner because normally is this

the dead that we see and It was the idea that we saw when the Aaldo more needed, in this love against Murab.

But it's difficult to say, it's difficult to put all in the counter. But it's... It's unfortunate to be able to to be able to say, the other, no, there's an interview.

We don't know if he will be to be a posentar, like the Merab point-o or you will want to be-de-pidida, what did the wrong in the

what did set, what was the plan, have to expect the Aldo to say to the answer exactly how he reacted the

because he got over the he's a lot of he said he's he's a central to the end of so he was a shock very great

and it was a lot very wasn't a porra not that was like it was a like it was a lot of

peterian we were still we were still in abutab he did he did everything did it was

he didn't he was peterian was on a level on the it was like that it was a lot that we

saw that we had a old would but he was not was able to develop it even

even a little with the situation with the situation we're going to talk about for the

fans for us journalists we're we're we're we're the stories

more the BMA because now the Mereabe there's this situation with

Alia M. M.S. They're don't, don't, don't, don't don't, not, not want to

to be a centauron. So, like, you got, you got, you took the old, the rhodo the rite,

bhaute, he's a story much, because it's for what, you know, but it's part. You know, do it.

It's part of them. I think, who's the Marlonverna, right? Yeah, Marlonverna, are, so,

only the two in the corny right, exactly, the audio, the only, the audio, that's just,

imagining, imagining, imagining, imagining, you're in a posseant here in the day 22 of 23 January

21 of January 21 of January what's what you would you would be to confront the Aude

here we'll we'll go back I'd like much to see the local chalda by the malice

but but it's a lot historical a malnut an mutton impolant the stilus still still still are

interesting not it was like if Dominic also if of a form terrible

to Marlon Verra was simply a clear signal of in this moment of the career I think it would be a lot

historical emblematic to the public to attract the public, the Dominic Cruz also is very very good

by the style for what he represents also I'd really to see and it's a man lot of absolutely

invincible oh, although would be up over over the same to be

the Dominique also would be interesting oh I'm imagine the guy came

to Brazil and and Jose Aldo, down the house, so he'd a moral to him, if he'd

go ahead to the sturtureau. It's the other that I'd do you do. I'd pass any other name

in the head now that would be interesting for me as the Guasus in the Rio.

This is exactly the other I'd have been to think of the Rheim Sehudo who's

who's trying to be trying to all the person who trying to get to everybody,

everyone, everyone to get to see, but, infent the Aldo the other

that was the FCS, San Paulo, that's been canceled for the pandemic, and then all the other the

other things geror Aldo and Peterian, but the chance of Serrudo to do a job like a game

and get a marrae the poor, no, don't put a guy, we'll put a porrida

with him, he's got a porth of day, he looks like that kind of you know, you know,

that's that little military, aposentado that's there he's never the telephone to talk,

the phone and it's a you, you need to be to come to come to say, like he feels like this time

this call to Dena White it's clear with a quantity much being not going to not happen it's going to

do it the FACC needs of REC RUro the Kahnawit needs to RECU in the activity is a lot

Doras, champion dupl, did story, but B'bis no, no,

no, the more time it takes, but less I think he will think he will is a lot of

see, the public would like he has a good he's a real way to be a

real thing he's a because he he per he perde the bones in the story he's

he got the way a way a year after a month after saying but I'm

back the money I say I'm back this discourse poor, yeah the fodda

not. I don't know, it's complicated and it could be another form,

yeah it's a kind of a story very rich and interesting, champion Olympia.

Enfrey, a pen. I could add very in this category. Well, yeah. And to talk

people with relationships with the P.C. have the Paul Borrachina, that we

had he was to be a probably reposentate of Luke Rockald. He

had been in some moments, he, Po, the Luke Rockald was being

contorsing of dor when he when he was not he won't get him,

he, he, he's he, but you, you, or you

feel a or you feel as a I'm not I don't I'm not if I'm if I'm

having been satisfied I'd have been satisfied by exactly because I know the mohashia has potential

and porra he could have been emasasap the hookah road in a porrada that we're

that we've seen in the same that you know, but in the final of the time to

think it's in expectation we're we're we're just we're we're not it's never it's never

almost it's almost balasso and took a porrada of rock road it's

it's not diminuing the result it was good for the morrachia to wince a guy

expressive all the story of the question he was used to he's a piece a band of

the bannoooo did the morrashia would be a lot of The Dana White said the well

he said the he said for the question of the ushada so I think the saldo

is positive for the morrachin I just I'm saying that could be a lot because

he had a condition to put, put, to make a carolad in a porrote

and for a reason he he not he's the question of the question of

agency abent it was a event was a and as he said he

said he said he said he said the sub-conscient of who

he was because as he came he looked in a more of the lot of

because the look for much he was suffering to be to get to the look still

he still more those he so I think he pushed the freer

the arm so in the final of the he won

but not not so it was so he rock

holt long the rock rocke rog rogou was a battalador of the story of the sport

because, since the first round, he's got to be a biter with a determination admirable. I honestly, I expected that he was a lot of rhythm. What we saw a

thing absurd? How did you? How did you? He did feel like that he did, he did you go out of the same? Oh, what? What do you're doing

here, man? Oh, what I'm mean. It was a little inacreditable. But, it was a lot divertida,

talking in level technical, was very a bad but it's a good for the public,

fan of the luthas. And it was important for Borrache to wince now he's saying

that he remember, that's another a lot of a contract, and that's

kind of confused and a Borrachina but it was good but it was good

I'm I'm very great and not termed and created a deception, but what important is a

victory, the guy 20s, the important are the three points that he brought to the first point,

and it was a lot of invested, got a got a more, but it's a more to

impression, especially in a moment of definition of career, like he said

he said more one one of a contract, so not it

was like the situation of life or or a situation,

but he now is going to the last the contract, the case

not remove, as he he indicated that he will renewing before going to do it,

he's going with a cost of the record, he diminue the pressure in the time of the

last of the battle, and a lot of he got he got but that he

didn't know, but he continued pressonable to the last the last he will

he will, he will say, he will say, he will want to more

more money, he will want a dispute of a centuron, the

the Gaino the Rook Rowald's I don't see that Borrachin that's getting to any top

10 of the office ofc today that's he's not going to give to the F.C.

today, I don't know. Well, that's what I think I think that's what I think it's

a lot of a morrashia retomar this is important. So, like like so like

the local Rock Road retomor retomal the trust, go to the

the next. Because if you don't have more confidence to make into the look to Rock Road,

you don't have to get to Robert Whitel of who are the Mark Vettoria,

Derek Bronson. So I hope that this problem of the Morrachia had been resolved in

this look at the Morracheen who's the Romero enter in Octoo

to go to try to try to try to get to get to be going to

the car than my preoccupation a little more this. The Borrach

has a potential absurd but this travada that he did with a

hodd to be a more more conservative not a not is a necessary for he

reconquished a chance for the title he has he has he has got a

total of doing December or January if if were to choose

these dates these dates for him it's quite quite

I go look the top ten of the category and is the

captain pego puatans the Jekan Anier he he pegged St. Strickland,

Robert Wittaker, he pego the Vettorke, and the Derek Brunson and hector the only guys who are

the only of the other is the person who's not that is able to to do you and the

Andrews Manny are the two options now that could have been in front

the bohachin you? You would one of these two or you

would would be one of these other would happen to

to to cause the next one the question question It's a difficult

this here. The Sergipan is a game very chate for him. The Derrington is a good a lot of

a lot of good. So, the Dehantian also I don't see what the situation, he's always

going to be going to go back, so it's complicated. Not the not the situation ideal,

honestly, if the Morrache had been putting the porrada in the B

in the Plodagh and he could be in the Duttonton under Mautau back,

he'd be a lot of he'd be able to be I would try a provocation, or something, he'd have to do a hype

a favor of him, you know, because really the time is very rude, that's everyone clout more car, everyone working, and if you're

not doing the bohachina, who don't look with this velocity, he always he says, he'll be to do that

but it's going to happen and I think, he's going to Mark, Vettoria, that's, but I'm nother more,

but, but, I'd like, I'd like, I'd like, Devint Chil, if he was a different

to him. depends much the conversations that the Borrachin will have

with the Rannovus a second of the other than he's not going to the F.C.

Bote the against the Cijipano, for example. There's a lot for it's a lot of

a lot of a lot can't be able to be a guy that's in ascension and use

the Borrachia as a car to for Ceripan to seepano to be

to be more to a dispute centuron. If the Borrashin does

understand that can to renew be it you do a lot more more favorable

for him a little a guy that's a car that will be a car that's all the

end of the next thing the next year what's this negotiation this conversation about the new

new employer the new business with the dogmach with the matchmakers to see what what will

happen we're just just just to see in the past the next the next

the future this new this victory this but for again I'm just you

thank you thank you I'd like I'd like you my company here, presence, more than a video of podcast, always,

we're bringing with much with a good good news. That's very very good. It's always a pleasure to participate

here in the podcast Trocason Franca, I'm a guy, the people who always the recent, the podcast Trocason

Franca in video. So I'll just take it here when I just I'm working with the video to re-indiccar to make

me to make a voice the guy of the internet that we want a podcast Trocason Franca in video. We need this. We need to see your

car and the car of the interviews in the podcast Trocah Central Franca. Ditto this, much thank you. It's been a pleasure, my Rea. You're a fair of the rest of course. So, divide the podcast Trocason Franca with lenders, with names gigante, the Muro of the Lutas, it's a pleasure.

What a good. I'm going to get your suggestion of podcast in video, too, I'm going to invite my chef. Probably it's not ignored, but I'd I'd like I'd like me. I'd like to call my interview a interview with Marcus Boucher that starts just-jad,

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mega-campion of Jujis, who's embarking now for more a new MMA your fourth luta after finalizing a three then, finalize a non, because the last year knockout, you

getting a porrada on the ground, it's very good to receive more a little bit of the podcast, man, how are the things for there,

a few days to say in a porrada more one championship? Well, me sentino well, but one camp was made,

and me sent me prepared. It's going to be a grand a new a third lot. I'm feeling

a loter really a lotator really a loter of a new another, when we're going to

last time on the podcast you said about the difficulty in the transition to be

a to be a manager, you know, you train for rodeo of the excellent

athletes in America Top Team you you also about the difficulty

to see that the game for MMA not so fluid

not so so fast you, to put the your Jiu-Gitzo in M.MA, because it's another style, no, there's a little bit, and all right. And, at least, you say, I'm saying,

oh, I'm not so good as I thought I was, now, now, after a time, imping, of various camps that you did along the last years, you're feeling better, as a lotator of MMA, is sitting more complete, or even is part of a process

to get to the scenario ideal? Ah, no, with certain. But now I can't think that I'm that's the bochechea of Jiu-Jitsu, my Jiu-Jitsu is working, I'm able to adapt to so, so it's always, sure, that there's always

a-mereuror, but now my J-Jitsu has been, not, I think I never perjee, but now I'm able to adaptate better and that's flowing very well, yeah.

There's some pull of Galtz the training of you, I thought, was, you're talking this this or it's

a more a question of the question of experience, to be a day in academia and be used

about it. Or, something you did you do that maybe in the first,

I'd and I had some something different. I think the perception, it's it's really

it's very very easy to say, but on the shone this here this here takes

a soco, it's fast to say, but it's there

there's difficult to see so I have a sort too

to be is all I'm all you have been of you know, people are

bigants in the MMA and all everyone always have a little there

a lot to have a M. He's put to a lot of my master,

he showed much that helped I'm not me comfortable for back

for over it's more more more but but

for back also it's very important so I'm

so I'm feeling well in all the aspects and I think it was

it's all right the day-a-day in the academy, but these talks there everyone

always have something good to learn about to learn in the game and me

feeling better at every day. And now it's probably for your major

this if you think it's the total lute more complicated the

Christianco on this six a week who is a guy who had been in a dispute this centurion interino, he's got over

the first derogs of him in M.A., but it was a finalization in the career and it's not a career a long too long as

had a few but he was invict disputed the centuron and he was, you know, and he's the last time

he's a lot more difficult for you, or you think, for example, the Braddock you've fretted who,

he not had nor near to the level of the chown, but in per, he is a guy who had a

much experience in the procaation and you think some other other that you did

for the kind of the time was more complicated than that's I think the

reality is the my my life my my life I don't not

not I'm that's I'm not I'm this but with

the broad one of the one of the big box I was in

so I'm didn't I'm could be a lot was being knocked out, then

he was the Kang, that, po, knockoutio all the world that

he looked and was a guy perigosissim so that after the last he he's not

he was a man a man a very very a other, then he

was the he, he was a kickboxer and facha preta jiuits

many people not say this but he was a man a

a level was a good He won't use well, the lockdown, because many

people said just of my TKO, I came a, I'm, I'm having a lot of the

foot, he did a technique very good used a lockdown, he got me parer, so it's

a façate legitim that I lutee, and now will be a wrestler, it's, I think,

let's say, the first wrestler that I'm I've been in the Flaupea, but I've got to FACHA Preta, I've got with people of

atlanta of all the areas. So, I'm, I'm a lot of Steve Mocko, which, boy, are the most of the name of wrestling. So I

feel very well there, confiant, too, to try the wrestling if you need to, but,

with a certain, it's a great challenge, what was the feeling the the fight in the

battle? Well, in actually I was doing that to open a way to open a way to finish

so I could get adjusts much the the end of the end uproo in the moment that he

was able to make a unducee and I didn't not but to turn

to one and then to turn to start to be I was I was

just was just was definitely I thought he would be doing a way to turn

attack, finalization, a bra some back, some of the back, but when the judge

was a little, it was a relief, but I was very very calm, so, it was

to be surprised, but the Socos, I was very concentrated, was with a base very good,

so they were in so, let's say so, so it was on the he,

the next, the judge said, oh, cacete, it, I was just trying to bring

space to to finalize here the guy has interrupted yeah but it was good it was good no,

in the reality I think provo it that I don't be able to get back that you just to

allow you to be able to be able to be trying to I'm so that not that it

was sure if the judge made a hand in you know you know

you know you know you know but I'm really I'm not even I'm

not even it's it's a The privilege of the career I think it was something Markant. You think you can see the second in this

fight or always the objective is to terminate the duties with the specialities with the objective is terminate the the lutee

I learned this it doesn't it's not important if I get a position good I could use a ground

and pound I'm going to use but I think the Jiu Jiu-S is something that's always was fechering much, so I don't want to be

getting a time trying to find out of space, that I think this is what many, many the lot, especially the lot of jiu-jit, at least, force a lot of a position that still not is there, and the no, it's a advantage very great

that opens the space, but but, but, of course, if I see I see the space, I will always want to use a finalization that I think is where I'm a risked less and I have more the, the, you know, the speciality, You, you know, the long of the career

of Jiu-Gitin, you know, I've done done many times, you know, I don't see to do you know

without limit of time, but there were quite long as and all, no RCC especially, not lots of

lots of so you were used to do lots of than the five minutes of every

year, but for in the career, as three you finalized in the first round. You know,

have the desire, the curiosity of, who, who know, how I'm going to react to if I'm going to

go to a second round or if I go to a third round in the MA or not there's a

I'm going to go to go to make to go back to come back to make to get to get to

get to get to get in the second round? No, I'm, I'm, I'm,

I'm, say, I'm going to talk to try to try to try to try to

try to For me, it's a a dream, that I'm always getting my objective, that's the way to end up with a lot

really, but not that I want to end up to go to go to get to do that, but, the finalization

in the first round is always the objective, but, I, I, I, train with the

athletes, all the day, and, but, today, for example, I did, I did a sparring,

I, did three rounds, so, I'm prepared to do to do that the three rounds. I'm accustomed. Of a few times in a few rounds.

So I don't have this pressure to go to go to do that to get to do. If you're going to do you know, and talking about what you said I never did a lot of time. No, I never did lute a sent time

because I don't concorded with this, I was a guy that I've been a life entire had there, five minutes, 10 minutes to gain, and to finalize,

I think if you are good, if you're good, you have to, you'll have 10 minutes to prove and to get to get it. So I never I've never, I'm in favor of a lot of time, because the DCC, at 40 minutes,

it's just being a lot of chata, it's a lot, it's a lot, so I never will do a lot of time, because I don't go to the idea, to be there, two guys doing nothing for one hour, to one, to enche the sark, and desist. which is what

the majority of of these these these times in the time happens

so I don't I'm a favor no, I think the guy is

good really there's a time the two two have this time

for one finalize the other and it's that's that's for this that I

never accepted I never done I've done in 30 minutes in DCC

I did do 20 minutes with Roger Grace so

not not the question of I don't concord with the idea the part of the lot of the lot of the

cause of this that I said. And, poor, now the Luta against the Grishenko, you're getting this Lut, you're in 4-0 in the category

Pressed, which is a category very povoado in any of the FECC sof very with this in this division and the Grishenko,

as we said, he just put to the central interino, will have the the Vengue the Vos of his Gend-Gembula

to be who will be the fact the champion a pesise of the year. You think that I'm going to wincing this little, finalizing, jocke-and,

just can't to part to a different to a stuporon against who can get this unification? It's an objective that's a desire to have in your head

just, let's go, go, I'm going to put, I'm doing with the best training with the best, I'm got to athletes of various

different in the year, let's put on the year. I'm going to I live a day of every every time, I think on

today, I don't think much in the future, no. So, especially, po, every day more, I'm learning with this, that in the life you have to live or today, because the the day, the day, the day, then I'm going to be

being today, without me preoccupied much with this, so my focus is going to be to to be with him now. And I think the rest of the the rest will happen naturally, the next

the next the next the next one the next after the event of the weekend of this career, but

it's a carroarche, how you're doing the year and we know that who knows who next never comes,

conquests victory and impiling people in PEOPLE in the front in the end of the

one the tendency that you get there, I imagine that, you know, I'm a winner,

a competitor, the entire, the guy, not enter in a sport to be in a bit of your best,

and the best of one, is the guy that's a man, is the guy who can't be the end of

the one, that's, that, in the top there, so I think was that was always,

like, it's always, it's always, the end of the best, and to the Of course, it's

100% in the MMA, me dedicating my life to this now and the Jiu-Git's so, the MMA

not is different, and this is my objective, I don't know when, but with my objective

and I'm no pressure, I'm in time, I've just to come in sport, just two

years, so I don't say to when, but I'm going to see how much, such, good,

such, Fea. That's the yearn, the victory, I'm going to the next or the other, but good so

in the next pass, my mom. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. We're going to be the edition of

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