MMA Fighting - Trocação Franca | UFC 281: Alex Poatan Vê Israel Adesanya ‘Desestruturado Psicologicamente’

Episode Date: November 7, 2022

Alex Poatan desafia Israel Adesanya pelo título dos médios no UFC 281, sábado, em Nova York, e contou ao Trocação Franca que vê o campeão e sua equipe desestruturados psicologicamente por terem que enfrentá-lo no octógono. Na entrevista exclusiva, o ex-campeão duplo do Glory falou sobre a ascensão meteórica no MMA, relação com fãs e redes sociais, o status de ídolo no Brasil, e muito mais. O podcast entrevista ainda o peso-leve Renato Moicano, que também luta no UFC deste sábado. Alex Pereira challenges Israel Adesanya for the UFC middleweight title at UFC 281 Saturday in New York, and told Trocação Franca he sees the champion and his entire team mentally shook for having to face him inside the octagon. The former Glory two-division champion discussed his meteoric rise in MMA, dealing with fans and social media, being treated as an idol in Brazil, and more. The podcast also features an interview with Renato Moicano, who also competes Saturday at UFC 281. Subscribe: Apple Podcasts Subscribe: Spotify Read More: MMA Fighting Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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the MMA Fighting in Brazil, Guillermo! Cruz. The fan of Luda, welcome the 6thagst 2nd episode of the podcast, Trocaation Franca,

A's your house about this entire entire. I'm going to Kruis, correspondent of the website American M.M.A.

Fahlerin, in the Brazil, I'm a little more than the habitual, because this is a one a month a week.

We're in New York, where Alex Portan will be able to make history against Israel Adesani by the centurion

to the centeros the Tensleroons the FACC, and it all of course, that he had to be the the first

the convidado of Troca San Franca. All right, my friend. Welcome to podcast more one way. All right. Thank you. For a little about a little

about the planes, huh? Certainly, me. Well, today is a dominolego we're doing this podcast on the day 6th of November

exactly one after you straight a UFC with that joelada boater. It's surreal. All,

what happened in exact the 365 days you're here a few days to say in the hand now

that's a centuron of the future. The job was well was well being done

being done done all the planed yeah, I'm with the people,

I'm the better people so no there's not the things are wrong. The

lute like that was in New York was in New York the Kintal

of Dembrine the distance partin where you did the place where you did the

world, this is the the best scenario possible, as a fact is improbable

that the Adesani, to not say impossible, that the Adesani, top to defend this

the other against you, in the country, for a park, a park, a park,

a lot of this, even more more than the better than a better, I'm

for the time, I'd be living in the United, and as you said, and as you

know, the last of the car, oh, I'm, too, I'm a a advantage very good.

And the Master of Square Garder is one of the arenas most iconic of the story of the sports, especially the sports of combat, the box, and in the last few years, the MMA, since it's that's been legal, the MMA in New York,

the UFC has made various events, there, various editions historic, various great luthas. It's still more special to be coroner, a champion in a park who has received tantas

the box and of other sports? No, we have to put a lot of a great importance if you're to ask for any more

a manned to get where he can look to I think not it's not Fats Metsonson's

firegarten all everyone does it have a participation in this place

and even more more sure with the question on the specifically you know

you're going to talk the Dessani that is a rival from since you

did a interview recently saying that Fof-ce the Cinturon, that he

want to be that he is a in you, in a matador with you, is what really important.

What do you read of these these words of this word of this centuron? You feel that he is making this

rivaled with you to be a thing more. It's more important to gain of you than

have the Cintouron Duf C. This is something sometimes I feel kind of

confused, but I understand of a form that he gained in me, he maintains a signoron. So, how he don't

be talking about the centuron? He would say, oh, I'll just to do that with Alic. If he

wanted he would have done when I signed with the FC. So he is being being obligated

to do that, he's the champion. So, no, I don't even I'm there,

I'm not even to the situation. It's obvious that he is there to the signuron,

he can't he can't he can't he And it's that. No, no, no,

no, no, there's, no, I'm there this way, I'm just imagine, this form,

if there's other form, I don't can't seeer. You think that you're in, the, the last time of

the other luts, the, the first thing, is a thing that is a question,

and, and, not so what happened, but he knows the how I'm so I'm

the people, he's, that he's, he's, he's, he's, in front, if the result

would be different with the other two two Lutas he's he's a a guy different

I'm a totally different totally different of other people and I am not I am I'm talking not I

I've had two two other with him was totally different the form that he

did with other with other other other athletes also also

that I that I did these three Luts in the he's he knows

that you're different you You said this thing of his thing he's being

forced to you're in I remember that since you know that's you're in the first of you're

not in he would be he'd be able to the car to you're in front but he said to but let's

let's say between a question so, get a chance in the octog know,

by the time of the things, these three you know, you think the sentiment is really

this, he's being forced to he, he he not he didn't come to come

to he's from the initial. I'm saying sincere. He don't care. He don't care. Nobody's a group their team

they don't care. The people close of his poor, don't care because he's a guy good, he is the

champion, he's, he did what he did, but all the world knows of my potential, and is

seeing the my evolution. Lovo when I came in the FC was that we just just said,

he said that maybe after four luthas he would say to confront more. We're going with

calm. He wanted, but after he'd after I did this four luthas,

because he had in mind that I could be able to say this guy that really you want to

and then the people I never I never think of this but the people

are not people still that some people even they they they're they're

and they're other people that are so they're blefing not what he care.

Because when was exposed, that I really, my next would be the future would be the

future of the sturdron with him, he and all the team of there were depoiments

that is a little just, I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just

I'm gonna do you know how I'm did this I'd do you should be

doing this and I just I'm trying to a form positive to me. Because this

he he, he finged what he he was and when really I came,

the team of his was against so he he and all the the team he's

a team of his is destructurated psychologically you think that this does it will enter

in the he wants he wants to he I don't I can be

in two two I'm to get in two my time to use my

arms and he will go and he will come that can happen, I have to impose the

my rhythm, I have to impose the to impose to make a to be in I'm going to I'm going to

or the call, but every lot of the other that's the thing, so I

have to get to do that, make the I'm and impose the game,

and make the world, it's better to be that's it's not going to do you

have been this in mind, this I have in this I'm in this I have to

get to get and it will do all the type of of a guy who assist much the video of the other adversaries? Like, oh,

mark a lot of your counter you're going at the bloods of the car, and you're not this profile? I see,

I always see, I'm always I don't focus much in this, because it's that I said, in one

a lot, is different than other. It can be different, or I do something, or I can

be to be in comporting other form, I'm also the same thing, so it's

impossible a lot of a other, right? But with sure I do a look at I'm a

really, but I'm a pego much, what the he's not, let's say, not for this last

but if I put a little but if were a if it was if it was had been

a little a shunned on the car, poe, if I'm if I'm get a

put out of my I'm going to I'm I'm rolled I can't I'm a form negative.

This is not good. I have to confiard in the work that I've been doing to

put in the role. You know obviously know he too much because he's two times

even that's a sport different, and clearly assist the other than he put the game, because

it's a division, but when he marked this lute, you sent to like, I'll see

some, you see some some of the other, you see, you see some something that you

maybe you maybe not never had something that he does, something that he makes, he

man, man, but you just, just watching, without, without the with an

date of a new thing, you know, a thing I, I always see, I always see the

something, in all the all the lot of the , it's, not only so he, does all

different, but it's like I know, we can't be apegare, uh, especially,

the errors, you know, because we have been corriging, many, the people say,

I'm saying, if I'm, if I'm, oh, go, go, he errant in that he's direct.

I'll get, poe, the repent he he got, he also he also he's been a form

like a error and poor, he's, I'm doing nothing to do that I planegee,

I'm frustrated so the important is I'm is I'm prepared. It's I'm prepared. You posted recently on

Instagram, a simulation of the video game, you're in fronting the Adesani and you

you've been a combination of shoot in the shooting in the the life real going to

of him on the Saturday? I think I said, no, it's what it's not

not to know how it's a lot of, but it's a form of, I'm trying, uh,

sometimes the people, I see commenting, ah, poe, you know, more,

but this, I'm not really, I'm not different, there, there's people who

goads to jogger game, there people who go to go, go, I'm

people who go to play baral or jog, I'm snook. I also to go to

a snookin also, but I'm more focused in my lute and the time that I have is to do and they're

things real obviously, because it's not that way I'm not quite if I notchaled if I don't have knocked out of

him, I would I would probably I would post a other a knockout with him

what is what is a person or the person, or the guy to see or the

guy to do a problem, it's when he will look at the first then

post a or poste him. Or post a video knockoutier someone and talking to knockoutier the car. I don't post guarantee this there. I want to go there to do my better and say with a victory,

to bring this cinturon. It's that I want. But all this provocation that I'm being is being a bit of being, I think, no, I think it's nothing disrespecting. If I do this form that I

said, not have happened nothing in the past, and post, then, then then I will be be defocated, but no, I'm not. I'm talking things that

that happened I'm talking that's going to say I'm not I'm going to say equal it's like

something that's not I'm not I'm not quite I'm not I'm not I'm not I never

I never I never I'm my interviews I'm what I'm preparing I'm preparing

I'm prepared I'm prepared I'm focused I'm confident I'm I'm happy and I'll do my

I'm sure I don't know I want I want I want to win a. I want to win a When you live with the social, you're

are there are there for the comments that will be, it's a thing positive or it can be a great idea, and it's a

interesting, you know, you're posting a video-z- little bit of the guy playing the ballin of tennis in you, for you know, a bigad of the type of training that

the adessani posto and so, many people are saying, it's great, because if you're getting to critic it,

but if you don't post nothing in radio social never, I'm going I'm going to say, Po,

the Po, the Pottan is a social, he's not he doesn't not to be able to be able to

it's not he's not people, he never never never never, you know,

if you get quiet, oh, the guy, who said, who said, who said, who said,

that I don't, I'm doing, the lute and so, I do I do something, I'm just

something, and that does a repurpution legal, that's good for the world,

it's good for the fans, it's good for the event, And then the people critiqued.

So I already I've already that you do you know, the people that you know the people who don't go

to you, you can do the best the most they're going to check to other form,

no, no, I don't skent with this no. I don't with this, and when I

post, I poste and the car said, and the car said, oh, even the

the proper champion posted poste, post on a video being knockeded

for you, offer a humility. Porra, I'll say, then, I'll say, so, so, I'll post a video minocaltian,

he don't have, you know, but, now, it's the same thing, the guy's a car, the car comes a car,

a car, comes to the guy, he's up to the head, the person is working, she can't have been,

poor, I'm , the guy, the champion today, of the F. No, it's a, it's a,

30 years after, but this does part of my story, the people want to try to,

the person's can't try, sense. You think that this is just a guy is not a guy

in There's people who critiques. What's the common. No, for the normal, not. It's always going to be

but the form that was, it's ridiculous, man, you know, the guy, is a guy that's out of

the back, so, I'm also, I'm new, in the middle of the art martial, even more

of the M.M.A. I know a story, of the people, but after the person comes to appear,

like the Charles champion, po, even that we don't want, the people for us, you know,

who we're, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, the, who

people are in these things that are the people who don't want, you know, and it's a guy who

supered all, the difficulty, the we know how it in the Brazil, very difficult, the guy

came, the conditions that he had, with the family, and moved, the story of

his life of all family, and, and, car, because the people

have to get to I, I don't can't see how the people the

Sometimes, the person, just on it, just on her, let's suppose, like I'm just, like I'm just, I'm a lot of, put, I'd have a lot of sharia, for a day all, today, today, today, the sport moved to my life.

So, today I can't appear more, and there are many of the people who see spieling, in my story of life, and can have a muddance of life. So, how much I'm more I'm more beneficium

for the society, to the people, maybe one person that has a 40 or 50 years, she'll say, I've lived a lot, I'm going to say, but I don't think

on the children, but not you're in the family or in the property, you know, it's a benefit, because we're,

we're just examples, and the more the people don't get to see this. I interviewed I interviewed

the Joseo on the podcast some some weeks I asked for the postatoria of his,

who he he'd he'd he'd be a man that a car that had potential to be a new astro of UFC in Brazil, that's that guy that's carrigal UFC in the cost, even though,

you know, this moment of transition, that's a part of the UFC with a global, you want to be this guy like a, like a bonus. I want to be a champion, I want to gain a money to do a life more

to make a good great star in Brazil, po, manier, awesome and how is your relation with this idea of to be a

great name of the MMA in Brazil? I've seen a piece of the interview, I don't remember where I'm the Zeldor

and he said he said, he said, no, he, po, it's a man who is a man who's talking about

of me, but no came from Anderson-Silva, I even I agree, I agree, I agree, I think of,

I think of everyone there, he said, what's the most sense was the words of the Joseph Aldo,

that's a man who have an experience, there's many people, the majority who said there,

uh, at least never, it's, many trainers said, many things there,

but, boy, to be far, to say, it's fast, you know, to talk to me is easy

but the guy has been the people the athletes because the guy has a mind to pass to

them so it's not so so much so it's so it's all the sense

even in question of time so 35 years oh very difficult to do

I think I think I think someone does something something

I think I think I think difficult Let me imagine, don't I'll not go to

with Adesania he does the one of the what, 11 defenses were 10 10 10 defenses

if the the example 10 defenses 10 victories 10 victories yeah not

it would yeah it was it was sure so the people will be

in numbers results 10 10 and 10 for me if the Anderson does 10

does 15 in numbers okay but, but, but, what, but it's the

, but it's the , like, it's not, it's not it, in numbers, okay,

the guy got in more, and it's more than the other, you know, I'm not

not, I'm saying sincere, not me see, like a Wander, so,

I think, I'm going to turn a champion, I'm trying to be, I'm, I'm pretty,

I'm very, I'm very very, I'm happy, I'm, I'm happy, and, but,

I don't, no, I don't know, you do with what Anderson did, it's just to ask you all the time too, you know? You took on this point of the luta chata, you, poor, is a loterner,

he, po, is a lot of men who are the ones in a category, but in various luts, he, notherst, notarra-n't, notarra-money, a lot of the lute of

some of the time, in a dispute of the cintrown D. The Bispin did a interview recently saying that he not actually that the posture

of this this is the he's going to be like he thinks that the Adesania will be a guy very more aggressive against you. You, you expect that postura of him? You know, you think he might try to be more aggressive with you? Or you think he might be able to goad, you know, I think he's not going to be able to docks. I'm trying to make it more aggressive. I'm trying to make mehmi-a. We're not talking to kick-box. I'm Pronto for all. We're talking of MMA. I think he more aggressive.

This for me is perfect. You think for being perfect for you? For being a guy that's a good

to counterattack, it might be that he does make a lot of maybe he might have to be to be able to be to you

know, it's good I have two points. I don't I don't want to give here,

but I have a strategy for this for this situation and for the situation if he came to

come to the world. I'm ready for the two. Many people, many people, oh, he will go the time for all. And then,

I'm not, of course, it's going to go? It's not going. It's not the two. And, and, I'm talking,

not, I'm not talking to plan A and the B now, he said, I think this is, just part of

the plan A, maybe, I don't know. What you will, what you're going to pass through your

car to your moment that you're going, that you're something that is a thing that's just

is a idea of champion of UFC, to be to be a champion of the F. C.

what is going to signify to you in terms of the conquest, of legate, after all the stuff,

meugugly of a body of a modelality that is more more than the challenge, because not the kickbox,

so in trieste what you did, obviously, it's incredible in kickbox. But a new, so time,

so, so, so, What is you represent to you? You know, if you see

in a context general, of all the champion duple, the major organization that's the

thing that was the other than that's, who I got to get, a lot of we've been

very difficult to be a champion of glory. I did think five defense, I was

champion in the middle so I was a difficult to be champion

being more more, so it's more, so it's the category of the same,

more difficult to be a new modality and me turn a champion. So, so there

things like we're talking about you're talking about the other the guy was, an example.

The other Anderson for me now, I was the champion of the UFC.

I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, consagro

a better, because I was a other modality, with the story that I have,

champion in two categories and I'm a champion of, one example, a champion of the two events, the major events. He just was a champion of the UFC, that is much a lot, it's a lot, he did. He did single defense. I will consider

that my career was more difficult than his point of view. This is the point of view, I don't know if the people can't see if the person can't, because I know what I know what I've passed, and I see the pedreira that I've already, he's afraid. He knows of this that he tried and he didn't continue.

And just for we just to finish, for this victory, so we'll see, it's a point. It's the the tapet initial for things that will come over going to be

to the final there. It's a and the Dominique, that's doing a camp with us, we did the preparation with all together

so there's three luts at the same night, you know, which is a card fantastic and three

athletes, yeah, in the same team, doing a camp together, then in a second,

I'm, my mom, then the brother, then so, like, it's, it's been

a, a, a, a, a, not so, not so, for,

for the, for the, for the team, not just for the team, but for the people, but for the

people, but for the people who go to our work, accompany, I think that's a lot of the important.

We're doing to do it. There's great chances there to have an great good results, all us.

We're just very well, it's very good, I'm not going say, ah, I'm going to

find, Fuland is a man, but this man, but I'm going to say this of my

team, I don't go I don't say this, but, car, I'm not just aging with a reason, it's all the reason, it's all the world well, you know, it's all the world well, and we're ready, we're ready to, for the war. Maniore, poor, thank you, for your time, more a bit rebeenna in New York, that brings the centuron to Brazil,

my brother, we're doing, we're together. And we're going now, direct to interview with Renato Moecano, who also in October against Braddrydell, and the pap comes to ja, after a rapid interval commercial. Boarding for Flight 246 to Toronto is delayed 50 minutes. Ugh, what? Sounds like Ojo time.

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how is it being ascended this rata final a few moments of the same, to say the porrada more once a way I'm anxious for a time

not trying to say in the hand. It's great to be the time, not be the time to be able to

do you to get to work what we can't do that we want to what I want to

I'm a whole entire was this and and thanks to a little

less of two months to do get there and do a show to the So how is it

is this adaptation? You did a great part of your career on the Pesa Pena is there this new new challenge of

the Pesue yeah, I've been a time but how it's been imagine that every

camp you feel you feel more comfortable in this division? Yeah, every

I'm I'm feeling more comfortable, every my pace my piece

is so so so I'm so I'm so I'm feeling every

more more more me feeling more adapted and when I was the decision certain to make,

because it would be a lot of my own my piece, my piece, it's natural, I'm with 33 years,

go and it's getting, but every I'm feeling more comfortable, because every time I've been trained

with the guys better than 70. My own last little also,

that was a derota but, it was, it, like the physical, I'm,

I picked the I'm a lot with four days, not was training and I could go to the final. It was a lot of good for me, but it was a lot to show that independent of the lute, I always

will be able to be until the final of the round. And I think with a camp complete, I will be able to show much more in this sense, also

of the physical. But is what you said, I'm feeling, I'm more adapted to the category. I think it will be a great

opportunity to show. You feel that your moral grew after that the fight after the

role, the moral not so with the fans, but the moral also with the

fans, the chief of the FC? I think not, I think no, I think maybe,

maybe with, with a guy who is more affectionate and stuff and that but I think for

it's not does a difference no, it's business. Because you know, you know,

you know you've been the little bit of the country, and even having to have to

travel to and having to the lutang that you did, the chiefia don't you look with

with other eyes? I think not. I think no. It's a business, we know,

and the business we know, even more after the UFC, abri the capital in

the bolsa and that new investors, including investors Chinese, the people that are

that that's preoccupated with the company moved much, you know, so they,

they they're they're they're they're they're what they're generate

money to do lucre. And I think that in this sense, the athletes are going to end up some, let's

say, glamook it had been, but, because the more the more, the more than the other form, but you see that

it's business, you know? And I don't dismerse this, no, I think they're so certain, and, you know,

and, I, say, not, it's not personal, they're, they don't know not even or never

to get to because you did something, it's, it's, you know, if you were being

being being company, with their company, with they're going to do you're going to have more or less prestige with

maybe it's a guy that they will remember when you know? You're in after eight years, you will complete eight

years of your start in December. What did you have you of great difference compared to the administration anterior,

in these, before to be capital abet in the bolsa? What was the difference you've seen in

a fight week, in a a life as a a life as a person I'm

don't see you know it's you know it's changed it's very much was very more soot

yeah I think that from two years how I can't say they're

they're a thing more redondo even because it always was

always very always was very it was you was you

had a with this with these restrictions I think they've done a way to do something more more

more than more more than the more than the things that's going to be happening the crisis, the companies are adapting

and what is the good because there is, it's a COVID was a merda but the COVID

is, like, like, like the companies were, some things were good

so, the UFC, for example, he saw he knew that didn't be able to

get to a lot, so today, every athlete, have your court, so you know, for example,

not a cell full of an entire time, it's a lot problem with this, to you're training in a

summer of the night, and there other athlete, for example, who's in the same corner that you,

but who's a friend of the guy that you do you have a good, but it's

very reserved, very, very separate, these were those were the most the many different

those things that I think, that, also, after that after after you

every that it's a more mainstream you know, you're you're in again, that's glamoo

because for example those those old McGreg or those paper views and all it was a

very different today you have a F. So it's almost like a football no, no,

no, there's a pause of the F.C. F.C. all the final of the

time, the what has something so there's not they're to be

apegner in an athlete like in the trance the the trance of the

the plent it's a lot of the people are just the athletes that are just those those medallions. So, I see there, I

see what is a moment different of the FC and normal, the life that's the life that's

and I particularly have got of how it's a part of a problem. One of the things that

moved with the lance of the pandemic was the apex that passed to be used to

do the fight night there You came to do two Lutas there's but after Ipex, but

then it was the sort of to start in two cars of paper view and will start to do you

don't have with that a little thing, a gymaso very not have public, because I

imagine that there a lot positive to look in a little bit but for

the loter, I think it more maner more there, there's

there people in for you or you for you I think it much

not being public. The my first event, I did the first event of the pandemic, which was the one hour to another, canceled in Brazil, and for me, it was good, because, in the reality, I was nervous there,

because I was in- house, you know, at the same time that it would have been, that had been good, to have my friends, who would have been a lot, to, have been a lot of, like, in Brazil, it. It was a little, exactly,

yeah, yeah, it would have been a lot of people, to be able to comeemore that victory with me, but at the I mean, you also me, I made me, I said,

oh, be able to be able to say, but I'm saying but I'm saying, but after the other times that I

looked I, I don't, there can't compare a event of pay-per-view with an event in an apex.

It's impressive. It's impressive. That's that's the Texas, that was the Adesania, porre,

it's a energy different of you, for example, are in, you know, to be in the

bunch of people of people, that kind of adrenaline, I'm an APEC it's almost a train, like,

it's a real, it's a train to tell you know, it's a lot to look in a car

denumerate, it's very very, it's very nice, so I think good, so that's a lot of

the battle, he's a guy that, he's a very good, he, he, he's,

he's, a sequence good, when he came, when he came, the last two,

and he couldn't do the other to the guy that's he's a guy that's

in front of the past also he was finalized in a few years in a lot last year in

the other what you see the game of his how you think you're this case

for this this desire. I think he a guy a good in he's a

good in place, he's a special in but it's but he

not a person he's he's he's a strike it's a strike of

quality it's a a guy that we have to keep is a guy that you

can be knockoutier but he not a loter not he's hector, so he's

hever for Fisiev for a knockout in the second round. So, with the second I have

to me get to the strike of his important I'm I'm so,

uh, afiado but at the same time I think it is a good

causeam for me for me my strike by my ground, by my height,

by my time in MMA but it's important to say that this is not in a lot because the lute

it is legal because everything it's all can move in a second you know it's a

one of the last one this last one thing I imagine that I'm I don't see the

I just saw the moment of knockdown many many people talking that was that was

robbed but but independent of what it is it's inacred you

think that a guy that years, I'm going to understand with Anderson

Silver, even with 47 years, then do a knockdown down on Anderson Silvio and then

it's very this cartel of kickboxing it doesn't nothing, the carthew or the lot of

no represent nothing. It's always a lot and it's a lot of that's I'm ready

to be prepared for all the situations. I'm preparing to put him to put him to down to derubbara

I'm preparing for to the situation to not going to be able to be to be

to be a comfortable to be in way with with them the 3 rounds because I have done

with 3 rounds with 3 rounds with the practice, like the kind of the same so,

so, so, so, so, so, so, I'm sure, I'm

prepared to all, is prepared for all, but there some scenario that you see,

that you see, repeat when you imagine the when you know, when you

go, I think, the tendency is, I, have the chance to win this

form? I have a more chance to to win the shone, by the military and the time

he has the most chance to win a lot of the strike, so we're going to be but it's the talking to

you're talking to you're going to say, I'm going to because I don't see what I'm going to do you. I'm preparing to all the eyes

because it could be that I'm going to go to work just in par? It's just in par. I'm feeling

that I'm feel like as though he's a bad strike, he's not so good than the Fisiev,

and strike, the altitude he's the height of his, he also, so we're going to be. Let's see. Let's see. Let's see.

I hope that we're prepared for everything. And what that's a victory? And what's the term of category? You're going to two good finalizations

to get to the Raphael of the Anj again, four years of the antecedency, not a lot of an end uproarer in a sub- for who

can't be a part of the part of the thing that does a part of the others and it was a ma'clock, happened,

but it's that's what happened. Even he didn't know more a player in your division,

yeah, if he would be in his efficiency, he'd be in a place, he's this victory,

this, this, contra Bradry does, you think you're going to ranking, how you

think you think you can be seen, and then he's been to be seen, I think,

I think, I think, I think, I'll be a little of, I don't know, I don't

if the word is respect, because I also, I don't I don't care respect, but I,

I think I, I need to, I need to, I need to enter in the ranking, you know, because,

for example, when I, when I, was in the Pes-Penna even, I, was there was

there in a fourth, then I, went to, to the second, I, I was, I was in a

time from the person in the person in the person, and had been to be the time, I'm,

I'm a top five of the category, Then I gained to other car and then I'm going to I'm sure

analyze all these my derogas always were for the car rankied in top five or in the top 10.

So I think I'm sure I'm a but I'm a problem also I'm not I'm I think that I

know if I don't me put in the rank but I hope that I'm a victory over he put in

the last he was in the last time I'm a lot of I'm at eight years in the FC, I've and I have

LEM for to come in this category, I know that I have potential to get to get to get to

trained, focused, and it's what I have been to my derrota come to the States, and I'm

trying to and focus all the days, doing the better that I can get there's a

maximum. But, remember that I'm not the not if I don't know I'm going to

focus on the victory. So, what is the because it represents everything if I wince, it represents nothing if I know, it represents

nothing if I'm thinking no Ranking, I'm thinking not, I'm thinking in the Ranking, but with a victory I'm trying to enter in Ranking

and I'm this respect that the FCT is with the career that I've built in Ruffer after Ravos Ange,

you created that Mote Moikano Wants Money MUTO MUTO much to your life financial,

moved some something to have a little this style in your style in in interviews, in

social, to be more vocal, brigando for for this question financial too?

No, because the question financial not there. I have studied

about money, about the question from the United and some

years, and some I've started, I've came to a family in that

my father is a family, in my father is a public, is very

stable, so he never, he He never, he never me taught me taught me

about what was the money, about the money, he lived in a world of comfort there, he lives in a zone

of comfort. So, inequivocallyally you know, when a person public, he will gain the salary

total of the way, he has a stability, he has, and I think that it a other

vision of of the market, about what is the money, about how it's difficult

to gain the job, about how it's difficult to maintain money, about how it difficult

not to not have to be the inflation, so how difficult, not, it's difficult, not to get money,

about instability politics, so, so, then I'm started to this, because I didn't know

that it's, I'm not, I'm going to investement, I'm investing, I'm investing, well, the same way,

the same way, the same way, I'm in, I'm, with my work, I'm investing in the money, and, and if I'm

investing in my life, literally, I'm investing in my soul, I'm investing in my, I'm investing, the time,

that I could be with my family, I'm investing literally in to lose cellul of cerebral, literally you're taking

a pancada in the car, which was my last fight. So I have to gain for this, and I have to

learn to live with the money. So this mudance of the head was that was what

made I that was that made that I'm not that my case. So my

discussion accompanied my question. So, I don't that that what I'm,

like, I said, no moved my life financial. My life

financial is being constructed much before until, it's being being built in making

a postentarduria, in having some a rent passive after I have been

to be doing possibilities, so the moment now is to capitalize the moment now is to

do you do not to work, to get more money, to be more to be more a

life entire in a sport and have no no return financial. In some you can

questioner this lance of the cellars of the cerebras not, of to do doing this? So,

then it's a little bit more than a bit more more than I thought, you're a thing, for example, the

money is fundamental. The money is fundamental. The money is something we've invented and that the species

human never will be going to be able to to live of this, because it was a way

we've got to try, to produce, to vending, to make, and to make, and to make, because he's

fundamental, he's totally dispensable, because I would do it, because I think the legal of the

life is you find something that you would be a good, and it's so so I'm so

so I'm so so I'm so so you never be reclaming of the FC and you don't know

I'm paid, of all I'm all the your difficulties. I have to put a joy in the show and I thank you. I love me,

and you're paying for this. But as I'm going to be paid, because I'm one of the best of the world, and because I'm putting the my health in risk. But, at the same time, it's interesting to say this because I would say it to say it. Today, I did a train of wrestling, and it was a trainer so

good, and I'm feeling so well, it did all so certain, that came to train, and I said, I'd have to be paying for this here. I'd be paying to train up every day.

I'd be paying to pay for to live my son so you know so it's complicated,

it's complicated it seems a a, it's a kind of an ambiguity an antagonism or something

but it's the same I'd be of grace but I have to be but I'm pretty

it seems it's it's exactly it's exactly it makes total sense does

it That's a total sense. And just to finish for you, Luta in the Peso Leve today, the category gave a sacudida in the last few years, uh,

had a trocad of the champion there, the charles, he not had the head, like the champion, he was born in Abu Dhab, you surprised

the way with the lot was, surprised the result. Surpreendable very, you know, because, because,

so, for you be, to be, very sincere, it's because it's fast I say now that he got now that he

got to Charles as a favorite, but I would say what had me convinced when I asked, when me asked, I made a video, asked him, what had me convinced that the Charles would have gone, was an interview

of Charles, you know? Because, like, technically technically, I knew, I was able to be very difficult for Charles, because the Charles, at a few, he peck a little in the defense, he goes very to front, and he has that kind of style aggressive, and he always says, of how he can't

to get a punch box and all, and all that kind of that's all, I know, and I know, I know that's it would be difficult because we had had seen the

lot of the Macachev against the Davy Ramos and the guy good in-pye, and the Marachev looked just in the par with him.

It was for the third and controlled on the ground. So it was a lot of difficult for Chars,

but I'm going to my opinion when I saw, my interview of Charsk saying, my brother, this on

this is his one is his own the end, he's sufone, and that and that you know,

I said, I said, I said, I'm saying, I'm saying, carl, this bitch will get to get? Because, like,

it's like, when you're a star, it's all the thing, it's going to be what you're what you're

going to be some of the little, but I think the star, the star, the confidence, that was

so great in him that he was over he was supering the obstacles, but this

time, I think, it was a sum of a sum of a matter he had He's chosen to

to be in Abu Dhab maybe has been been not been not been not been been

been taken but he had been accepted I think it was a problem the question of

the balance not that taking him also he took a little bit of he was

he said no I'm not I'm not he's he's he's

but he he's he could have got the Macacheve with

so so many some some various things that I think were

never is a one thing I think it were multi-factories that were a lot of the performance that

was a real in my opinion it was a performance was a performance a performance surprising to makecheve

but I think it's not one I'm there have been many things that were some were

and did it made a make sure it's but we put it but we

but a we know that we know maybe maybe so I surprised

to the response to be more simple me to surprised. Because I knew that McCasheva is a durisim, he

had been a friend of a friend of his, he had been a friend of his, and I see that Chagin is good and I've seen the lot, so, I'm, in a certain way, but in a certain form I also knew how this lute was, particularly

in Abundab. You see in him the potential of replicar the fact of Rabib? Or you think he not not a mostro talent to even to to predict the future for him?

Not, not, not? So, this possibility for me, he might be dominant as a

champion there, yeah, to continue, and I know, but I'm, but I think

the Kibb not was a champion dominant, because he did many the clobos, not,

you know, were two or three, despite to have, you can, you can, you can,

you can, along to have been being been dominant, he was dominant in the performances, that he finalized the

Dunsting Gate, he finalized but then you put on a defense of Awee, the Qinta, that never

was a guy, a guy, 100% the top of the category. He was, no,

he was when he got the centuron. It was when he got a title, but

no, the defense was just after the Conner, the Dunn, the

Derson, exactly, so, he, Conor, he, despite the D'

D'clock and the Lutz and the Lutton and the Dust, much the style of him. Apesau, even if

were the Charles, I would have be able to do the Cabin, too, in my opinion. But, I don't know, by the fact of him having been taken invicto and

have been a impression really really very strong of him. And for me, this impression not is the Macachev,

for the fact of he's had been a time, we know, he's always, he's always he always can't be able,

we know, we're that he never, that he's never, the fact of him but he can't be a champion dominant.

He can be a champion dominant. But I think he always inevitably will be the sombre to Kabib, by the fact of him be

the father of Khabi, by the fact of the Khabi, be a professor of his own, and a fact cultural also that me seems

that's the fact religious, this question of him's men, they're together together, they have a system of

hierarchy a different, because you see that he even is he even he's always he always

he's always he's he's the Kibibib common. So, it's inevitable that he

It's a sombrae of Cabr, in my opinion. Verdead, man. I'd like you'd like to thank you much for your time in this retinal of preparation for a lot to, contraud, against Bradd in the UFC.

Poh, thank you. And, boy, rebent in this Lutta, this battle, and a victory important for the

country for the country, for the country pesed to know, with Adesani and Poatan. Good, good,

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