MMA Fighting - Trocação Franca | UFC 292: Brasil pelo cinturão — e no córner de Sean O’Malley

Episode Date: August 16, 2023

O Brasil está diretamente envolvido nas duas disputas de cinturão do UFC 292, e o Trocação Franca conversa com ambos os personagens. Além de Amanda Lemos, que desafia a campeã peso-palha Zhang Weili, o faixa-preta Augusto Tanquinho estará no córner de Sean O’Malley para o duelo com o rei dos galos, Aljamain Sterling. O podcast traz ainda entrevistas com Pedro Munhoz, que também luta no card — e já enfrentou ambos Sterling e O’Malley —, e Renan Problema, peso-pesado da PFL que impressionou Francis Ngannou. Brazil is involved in both UFC 292 title fights, and Trocação Franca chats with both players on this week’s episode. Amanda Lemos challenges strawweight champion Zhang Weili, and jiu-jitsu coach Augusto Mendes corners Sean O’Malley for his clash with bantamweight king Aljamain Sterling. The show also features interviews with UFC 292’s Pedro Munhoz, who fought Sterling and O’Malley in the past, and Renan Ferreira, the PFL heavyweight who impressed Francis Ngannou. Listen to Trocação Franca with Guilherme Cruz every week to hear from the biggest names on the hottest topics in the Brazilian combat sports world. Follow Guilherme Cruz @Guicruzzz Subscribe: http://goo.gl/dYpsgH Check out our full video catalog: http://goo.gl/u8VvLi Visit our playlists: http://goo.gl/eFhsvM Like MMAF on Facebook: http://goo.gl/uhdg7Z Follow on Twitter: http://goo.gl/nOATUI Read More: http://www.mmafighting.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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the MMA Fighting in Brazil, Guillermo! Cruz. Hello, hello, Hello, my friend of a centeum second second second second episode

of podcast Trocaceauqua, The House about a sphere. I'm going to the same way and I'ma fire in the Brazil

and I'm in this time with an episode special of UFC 292 event that it's a lot in this Saturday in Boston. The Brazil

is directly involved in two disputes in the event with Amanda Lambert disaffiating the campaign

Pizupai Zangueli and the Fache Prito Tankin no Corners of Channomanii for duelo with the Reyes of the German Stern.

And I'll try again in an interview with Pedro Munoz who also in Luton Nicarre, and he's Marlon Verra, and he's front both Sterling and Eomali in the past.

So, we'll start long to the interview and start with the Paranese Amanda Lemmo, see, you know? On the other side of the line, we have in bus the citadel of the

Cituron of O'C against the champion the Al-Zang. Comanda, well, welcome to podcast, as the last days, the last hours,

before to enter in October more one but now not will have just a victory the way

to the hand to the hand to the sturon that is a thing you a thing a lot of

your mind so much that's your important and so decisive of your career? Ah,

it's a week a week the week of the year, the time and,

yeah, training much, I, I swaned with this day and,

And now it's a focus total for I enter in an octagon to do my

job. I'm super super-trippa my head is very my head and I'm just to get

there and impose my job and do that I'm sure I'm going to bring the

social talking about about your social social talking about about the importance of the

job of what you do you do you did you did some work something

because this to be a lot such a big, a dispute of a scuture a officer?

Ah, with a certain I'm a psychologist, and she's a guy, and she's

she's a super-tankula, I'm super super-trikan my mind is, it's a very

very and that I'm really very good. You're coming of great victories,

for, finalized a Michari Watterson who's one of some of the

last the last lot knockedo the Marina Roder and

the specialities in that was the vendor the caribing this passport

to the truinal which came to it's a very in that expectation of what you would be

if you have an opportunity or not to the sturtain in some moment you did a doubt a

that would be a future the next the thing you know this time

they're going to get this they're we're we're we're we

we're we're and then the valet said you're going to tell sunturon. He said, he said, so he's the tautroon. I'm in a war

for you. And it was happened, you know, before I've always I've always, I've always I believed in God, first and the moment. And the moment that would be, if it would be the

moment, it was going to be a lot of the United about the UFC, doing an event in China, with her, making a lot of principal. It's about that not rolled. The lute was in the States United, will be in Boston. It's

a better for you not have to do a world to do a lot, not just for being in the house of adversary, but also to go to China, it's very long, it's a very long, it's a very

very hard, the fuse or area, it's been the best the world for you. With it, with you. With certainty, but I don't think much in local, you know?

So, it was my opportunity, so where I would But it's obvious, that he embossed is much better, for sure. But if I were going, I'd go to China,

and it's it. You're going to the athlete that's going to, the grand victories, she passed by the Yohanna and J.

A.jic, a nocautas a little bit of a sturted, then disaffed the ring, and he coopered the title

there's a passada in a carless pasra, put it to a back back, put it on a crucifix there, then you know, how you see the game of her

compared to what's the most of the arms that she has been she's like she's in it she'll be

what you make the attention in the game of her that you say this this here is the

thing is the main I can't help do you can't make the

he's a problem yeah we know we're a we're Tant to me as

for me as she I've been in the time in the time she's she's

she's she's she but I think I know I've evolved even more

the my I've been evolving very the my grappling also

and the trocaation I think that the she she she

she she she she she she not she

I think it's a point to my favor

on in the trocaation. And, where the is to develop, I'm very

prepared, I'm very, I've evolved more in other areas in the rugby, in the Jiu-Git

so I think it's been a lot-and- really, when you go to the traviscer and you

think the moment that you will get the end of the F. There's some

kind of I always me see finalizing it like, I'm me a war of five rounds, a porradoria

out of this is un-anguanted but with the cintanourn to Brazil. There's some scenario that you custom to see? I'm going to, I see, I'm finalizing it. And I'm still thinking

much in this. The people think they're going to put her to back back. The people are really in this.

I also think that she'll be going to try it, but can't be to put her to be back. But,

not surprise my Jiu-Jitz, if happens, I'm very very well. It's special to bring the Cintrano

to Brazil, especially if came in this form, you finalizing it, coming from where you

come, because it's a structure men, more badalado than many academies in San Paulo,

from the New New or so the people who will train in the United,

it, will be more more more so that you won't

the Citton of the Citton the a house? Ah,

with certain I'm always I'm always my camps here and

today I go to go to the siltural so it was all here

of Belen I don't I don't I know very I don't I know

I'm a lot of many so so I'm I'm so

I'm important is that we're being the result in

my my camp in my evolution technically so I'm

super-trancually when I was you're just the last last one the last the last was in Belen

there was in 2014, there was a event in Sauri, you're feeling about to do a lot in the north I remember

that there had the UFC of Belain but you don't do you know was part of

the event of the UFC even so who can can't can't

can be a break a little to battleer to to to leave the UFC

to go back to him? Ah, a a sonno, yeah. O'Sh, here in house,

to bring the UFC here to be a special. It's spectacular. Here, here, our city

has many people who but is a thought of opportunity, you know, and

thank you God, I've had this opportunity there, and we're

trying to show more Belain, most more, and to be the

the warriors here. You with this victory, you think the tendency that the

UFC did a revanche immediate to the Elizan by the pletleta that she is,

the fact to have been two two years of the organization or you think that the division

is very movementated the tendency that the field and you defend against

and you get a the sturon I think that I don't I don't say to to say the right

because there are various there's a lot in the field there's a galer in a field there but maybe

maybe not if there is a reliance for me no problem me not I'm going to defend it

all depends also it depends also the way that's you get there and pass the car in her finalizing when you're

trying to start it's a little a force but it but it's a poradaria a war and

terminate for points. It's exactly. Exactly. Just that we'll show a lot so for the public there will go

and goast and it's I think much movement to this look. The interview now is with Augusto Tankin

the Lenda of Jiu-Gitz who has been in NFC and now now train on Miley for the Dura mission

to detrona-l-l you know. Dott La Dahl now we have Augusto Tankin the Lendda of Jiu-Gitzo

that now now is in the preparation of Shianomali, that will dispute the centuron of the CITO on the national. My friend, my friend, welcome to the podcast. How are you

all the whole? The agenda is always chea, shea, cheetahs, now, the focus, there is afia the arms of Showneomali for this lot important-sippa. That's a, Bieler, thank you, for the convict, I could

talk with you again, more once in a way. And, as always, that's a lot of my academy, the class

Jiu-Jitz, and with all the plan of the training of the Chon for this lot of the title.

So, the Reta final now, so we're very animated. Maneer, it's a lot important

very, an opportunity that's an omale had been a lot of time, yeah,

carreira his career different of many people, because if he had been disputed the cintral for him because he has a lot of market in

over his own a guy very popular one of the most popular of the so if he wanted I want to say well I want the chance now

the UFC would be done for him three rodas atras but I think he took a way much maduro to work

with a way of the degree of difficulty of the athletes he goters people people passed for

difficulties for kebrew the perna over the leg over the world over the how you see

the Sean Romali, getting in this moment to finally to finally have a chance to the centuron against a guy that has a

good good quite, a guy that you know a guy that you know, the show him this, the

grand fight the career of his so, so, the guy, I think the Sean, the guy,

very intelligent, he's very mature, too, he has noce to the UFC, the numbers that he tries, that is very different

than the majority of the lotators, especially in the category, traze, so he has this conscience, but he also had to have a conscience

to get to get to make a battle, he had to get to matured and get to and to make sure in all the aspects, so

the training of Jiu-Zitsu, of wrestling, the in-p-de- him-pe-de- never, never, never,

just to start to go- a-go- years, that he been amadurecending, and, and the preparation

physical is getting a guy more more more than a big of getting a muscle muscle and it's

a process that we had to have been to also very intelligent to accept what we're

to say to let us we're going to do this and today today today today when it was

offered the lute the Piri Yank in the number one the ranking we

we knew if he had And if he had to he would have to the centuron, because there would be a

no way to not see that a messire so much a mission in the division so, we'd

not be able to get some a lot d'n, but as he got to know that the next is

the second is the centuron so we know, we're knowing of the quality of the Aljim

is a a guy very very strong I've I've been to say in the

division really a really very very strong physically physically impecable

always, so it's going to try a type of the Lutta different for Sean, let me see what happens.

The Shahn Amal he is a character that's a procaation that's a principal, the arm of his has been to

a lot of people, but how is the evolution of the game to the game to show, which is a

probably probably will be very explored to Palsam Pardle. I don't think the Rosemois

will get there to try to try to make five rounds in par with Chion Marley

you imagine that you I don't think it is the same thing. Yeah, no, with certain we know, we're going to the ground,

and we've been been working with sugar, and it's so he, he's not, he's not, you know, because in the

jitits, you get a error, you get in a position that, that's very will have can't have come

to recover. So, and the guy of the Aljami, you can't commit this error.

Even because the the chan, not, a guy of Jitz, not, a guy who does the guy a man,

So we have noce if it's if it's not, it's not not care that's

we're not we're not to make any those during those 25 minutes and Odja is a guy that will

try to get to get to keep to make a calm and move to movement a lot

and make a breache to be to be to be to the if it's

put to the if you don't come to make errors you have to

you have six years. Much thing passed from from the

while you see the evolution on him and the that you took to you have to

you know to show to show to Shanomari. I think the Odd me evolved very in

part mental of him because today he is the champion he he

comes in a sequence of victory great so so it

does a confidence to he probably he also he

maybe he maybe have been but looking the game he was doing

the game that basically the same he does he does he's a quite more afiated the jihis

his jihis he should be more afiated but nothing significant so what we we're saying really the

guy exploded, no it from the time I loted with him he was a guy

he was a very comment in the category so when I wrote with he was the number 8

of rank in the yeah had you was possibly could be champion.

And as, as I I felt, I, I had a guy very strong for the category. In terms of force, he was a guy that, the volume of his volume of his was very great.

I don't know if, too, for me, the peso, to cut this piece for 135, or 61 kilos, was, it was a little bit of my, the cut, not have been so good. I always sent him

a little bit of this, but I, I sent him more more volume than the the majority of the other lot of the other lot of the lot of the

time when I'm going to be the time I'm seeing no fear of because I'm a guy of Jiu-Git's so, I'm talking

the shone not this experience that's a kind of, so every time that I came on the time I'm quite quite

I'm very so I attack he to the time I get in the position of I'm, I

respeed him and I'm clached leglock Triangol a monopl and he only he just took in defensive

he not did it he did Fas comal the other guys that are progred to get the costers because the guys that he lot were

not on the car of the chan. So I had this arsenal and this confidence in the ground and if if I could do it

would be doing it and we have to try trying to work with the ground just justly this not

not be in panic if to get in the and can continue control

the alj at he he is the the guy more the guy more the

guy And, of loggia in the porrada, he will, he will acer some of the car to desperate and, and open space for he pick the costs. So, it's a calm there and kind of,

maybe to calculate every path that the Aldermin can come to do you want to do a long sequence, there, in the last got a decision of the Cerruda,

it was a lot of perted. And he was the jala chock maybe, he just got, maybe lesionated, yeah, but he did the work

of his job, he's a time, and he did he and then he had to be

a lot of other than he did he but finalized the same he was he's going to be doing the

last time that's one of the tops of the category until he but he

not he not a kind of he's always there always there always he's always

he's always he's he's always he's something, about some what you what is

your opinion about the object of the question of he's of fact, the,

po, the, the, the, the, the, the way, the way,

he's he's there's for a lineament of the stars, that he

came to like, some, those aperted to end to the side of

him. No, no, no, no, no, no, nobody

came where so, or, or, or, a lineament like you

said, the guy is good man, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm,

I'm, I'm, I'm certain, of his, I have much respect for him and we know

and we know what an athlete pass to get there and it's not the level that he

is not we're not dismerecing him in a way any way we do much we do it we have

the best he is the best guy of the category currently and not the at the time he

the not the style of his style difficult a guy very good with a guy's very

I, I, comparing him with a Merab, when we say he's the same thing, he's the same thing. I think he's a million times than the Meraab. For cause of Jiu-Gitzzi.

The Meraab is a great wrestler. There's a strike in okay, but the volume of the two are very great, but the

Aljama has been the Jitzs is good, really. So, we don't are, poor, dismercing him to many of

any way, the guy is there's there, for all that he been creating in these years all,

the guys all that he gained. And as I said, the confidence of the guy is in

the he's not the time. He's the put a whatever one to put a

little to and finalize so. So, it's to work to not to get to

do the guy does the sure. The top I think that will

be a lot, as as it's the last like it has been the

last year a decision of five rounds or you think that one

that a the goal of the he will feel and then the question of time for he can't be

and then it we're still a momosad a shoot or something he can't but we're trying for five

rounds we're trying to for five rounds if it's five rounds in a war that gets if it's

going to we have to the calm to get a time to get to get so it's

difficult it's difficult but we're We're not being the quality of the Aljim, and we can't enter in a lot of the title, I'm thinking that we're going to be going to be 25 minutes, we're going to do 205 minutes, so we're going to do 25 minutes.

So the Sean is training a lot, you're having a conditionament physical very good, too, so if you have to be 25 minutes of a war, let's see what happens. And we're a lot in the ability of him. The show is a guy very intelligent, very disciplined, he trains

much, not just of today, but years that a year, but the other when, he's got the job

there's, in the retent, more than the majority train. And it's it's the

time to put all to the game now and try to get to get to get to

you, yeah, there's quite a time that we didn't see in a year,

in the year, it had to the end of the year and it came to the planes

for this so you know, soly In the Submission, you are active as always, champion of the ADCC-2020, but for MMA, have planned in VOND-WOND-WOLD-N, how is it?

So, man, I had, but I, man, after many the lot of lots canceled, and many things that not have happened to me, you know, things out of my control

and not were one or two days, not, I was doing a point here a time in my record and all, I took to more

the 10-lutors canceled, of people of people of getting of the people and I'm

I would do not in November so I'm I'm really I'm really I'm even I'm

with the end up my Rett final of my camp after I'm after I'm in falling three days for my

life was cancelled to know so I didn't so I'm so I knew that I

had a last year I had to do you have a surgery for that I'm disanimed

about because I I trained bastante to lot to be able to do that when I'm

kind of done I'm like disanimed, I did a new my surgery in the hand there's a time, I'm

have to do do you know to do the other hand too so, so I'm kind of,

I'm like, I'm not, I think, I'm, I think, that God has a plan for

people, and maybe these all of all over maybe not for a not for a

but I'm to focusing in other so, so not I'm not too I'm not tried,

I'd try to get to get someone, I'd offer them to everything to get to be I'm afraid

and I said I said, then I'm gonna get to be my my head's in the mind, I'd

have been to get done more in MMA I think I could have been given much more but I'm

to say that that's not happened it's because something something something I'm more

to be able to my academy, I'm the family, I'm not I'm a man,

I'm not a lot, I'm from 40 years I said, although to be active,

is training, with the people with the people with the people who are in the UFC, no Bela Tours I'm doing

with this car with a lot of the time, but my focus today now in my academy,

the most to pass a little this that I had a my area of Jiu-Gitz

and to help them the maximum that could do you do you're to be to say

that the point to say a post a little caro suhulubes of you know

and go and go. It's I said can't it's like yeah, I'm like, I think

I think it's like a poor, car, I'd have a proposal, even if I'm going to but I'm

going to do. But I don't see if I want to want to understand. Because the

part as a part as a man and the mind of God, I'm just

to imagine that's to imagine that it's to me. So, don't see, it

If this was a propost, I would order to be able to ask you, I'd ask you to listen to know if it was really this was really because my my lot of the law would say,

I'd say, I'd like to put a head on the chum and see what is that's for me what is, you know, so let's see,

not, but, let's see, you know, you know, but it's like, yeah, it's like,

to get a call the post he'd be thinking, poor, manel, let's go-a, let's see. Exactly. So,

now, my head not's in the And in the Jujit, there's there's a lot that you want to know,

you're aqueathicum yeah, the market, especially without kimono, you're, the last the last few,

the last time how is, the plan on this side is that, it's a, it's a camp,

it's a to do you, to do you know, but I'm imagine that's being less gastisent

that's to be taking a stoo- the camp of M.A. I believe that today

to do a camp of a manor would be more more than than a camp of Jitz because

it's a thing that I am a pleasure to do you know, I'm a fine to do you know I'm in a

camp, I'm into a sack chey, but caracca it's six and eight seven to to be

to be to get a time and the legions all, and I, in my reposentate of

Jit's in 2021. I did the last super lute there in the B.J. Stats

and I did just because of my my son, who he had two years of age. I wanted, I wanted to be a lot of professional with him, with me,

for I could get him, and what I did, I gained, I left him there after. After this, I said, no, I don't have more interest, because I don't have a lot of Jiu-Titz. But, as, as I said, everything, everything

could happen. Recently, there a news of Rafael Mendes would go back to fight, and I, as I, I'm, I think I, I am the only guy who He's beence.

He more than he than he he said, many people we're going to if I'm a good, I said,

I'm a good, I'm a good this is a good for all the people who all the school,

oh, everyone pays to see, paying the well, he's paying what's the we'll see,

what happens, and I don't think he will go go and if he would have interested to be

to look with just for this, for that after the placar, for all the story of maybe

maybe it maybe incomode it of some maybe to let's to look with me, we'll

talk to get a lot with a talk with Peter Munoz and Renan Problema that lot on sext and Saturday on PFL.

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On the other we have we're we're in this Saturday a lot of a lot of very great

in the UFC 2992 my my friend on the podcast how is being this

rata final there in a lot of going to a person a person a person

who He's, very to the but it's a guy that's in the top

of the category, and to find the R. R. R. R. I was to

show that the guy was in the elite of the division, now, and now that was

the cold, after the Sehudo so how is the expectative for this

great duel there. The expectation are the best of the best of the

, I've been of a period long, a period long, training and

my last was in April, in the middle of April, against the Gris of Gutierrez, so, I'm,

not, I'm, no, I'm, so I've got to be all the trainers, just gradually a little to, but a little,

but a month after, that other I was just training, and then, I maintained in good

conditions, and when I had an opportunity, I've been training, yeah, and I, and I,

And, Falting six semmas for this combat was when we received the invite

to get used for the fact he had started from the lot,

I think was a legion in the hubb or something. And then I

accepted the battle. And we always always always always very

very close there one of one of one in the division of the

category Galo he was he was coming in a ascension of

some some good victories and And I've got the last embatt for the C.D. Rega, impotator good.

This is not also the merit of his thing. It's like a lot of a double. And now, the day 19,

we're going to be fronting in the UFC in Bost. And I feel very confiante. I can bring this

victory again. What is the the thing you see in this lot?

Because you have traversed a moment of difficulty of the detritus, there a lot of

Mani, who had the detract of the old, what happened after the last year,

went on the last left for been seen as the last the last or in this level,

no exist to enter more less than a moment, a sentiment of a victory,

but what you said, is resumably this day, in this level our this level our

is the final there the championship league, you know? not

not a team and there's a lot of there's always always colliding with the

other the category and the most coming of a victory

and not it's a decision or not it's a back

from the more more of a guy I he

that he came to six six six the six

six six so it took a bit a

but in the responsibility in the same. The discipline is a factor fundamental when we can be able to

maintain motivated, even coming of the derota or victory. And it's a lot of you make you

fall, the good degrades of division, because the last guy that you got, a guy that

was a very promissor, that not had a even a place in the rank

there was a top 10, but he's a man a man you got a

goodism, but this now, the guy of Top 5, so you getting the and you just get in a port in the top

five, you just figure normally, maybe a two victories of a dispute of a centuron. That's what you're seeing, that

this victory you put in the conversation, yet more, because at the same night, will have the dispute

of the centuron, no? I think, that, that there a possibility, but I think that

still have other other luts to even to concretize, no case, I, I think there are other people

in the front even C.D. Rego that he was in the final of the summer winning of Robbont other other lootators there,

even Peter Ian that had a victory a victory, even the Reda, even the winner and Peter Ian the ultimate.

So, I don't see there where me would but I'm the guy that I focus to every

little, so the plans after this will be the plans after the planes now,

now in this moment I focus for a little the I believe that I think that a victory

I'm a lot the most the point of to look at the top five. The my vision of

is that if the Shannomale wince is good for you, because there a story of the

controversy the bedado in the whole and so it would be a future of a

dispute in this centuron but if I obviously can be well

for a way for maybe free and Merab for Merab not

no no spot the so he's out of the alternatives for a dispute

of the tito, you see this form too? Or you see if the Stere can't even be to category he's already,

he's about he said about he said. I've got in a boath that I what I did,

was that he had if he had this the dispute against a showomomal he,

he would be, and would disaffiaria the Alexander Vokodon so then

would be a category to meera to dispute and I think it's more that's more

that's more they're more a lot between him and would be a lot of important

too independently of the Al Jamin subbing or not they will have to

a hour if it if it for in this capacity then then you're getting on

the other another there's not there not there's you

the focus is to get a lot because nothing to imagine the future will be the way,

it's not not a way to be able to do that you get a lot on the man, a lot of

a man is a guy who has a lot of a lot of I think technically I'm better in all the exquisites

in the lot in bad, in the part of wrestling I always me see the

I'm always I'm doing the lot by the way that I look the me and always always

in a dispute of two guys with a durability, like he, I believe that I love this lot in the marges those points, with the major

goals of perished, with more contrived, with more control of octagon in gops of feris in general, chute,

and soot. This is my point of view. You don't want to think in adversaries in future, but to say

that there an event in San Paulo, the 4th November, the 4th Novel, mesh with you? Well, legal. I have a story

in New FCC in San Paulo. Since when I signed in 2014 with FC, I did 2014,

15, 16, 17, and 2018 I took that problem that not was in San Paulo, was in

Belen, by the fact of the infrastructure there, so. So, so,

were four years continued in San Paulo did the grandes there

against the match Robert for a first victory in the UFC then I did I'm

the second year of for Jimmy Rivera that we we've got the revenge in the

middle of the pandemic and then I'm a victory against Justice Cogs

and the Robbfonte also that was my last last

last he got the both both and won the two was it's just

there's a story for that's a event in the Brazil, even more in San Paulo, which is where

I'm not see, I'm going to have always a memory, and a more more, it's a bit in case.

Mannear, just for we just to start, in the middle of the night that you

have been to meet this Chalna Mara in front of Osjam-Sterne and you

who can't you know, you know, to start in the octal with the two, that can't this

fight? It's a lot very good because the show Amal he showed

that he is a guy, he's a good, very strong of a lot of

Peter Ian. I've trained against the Peter Ian, I know how

he was I, I, I'm, I, I, was a

lot more strategy, and it was a lot that I, that I did, he was a

guy that he was a I've got a strategy a favor of him. I believe that the Al Jamin

gain this a lot in a margin of point, so, I don't see a, no,

I don't see a difference technical, much, I think the two are two are the two

are the I'm used, the Aaljami Stelele with a, with a experience a more more,

but I also, I also the side of the show Amal with a precision of

the there too that can feel the difference in a battle, a lot. A guy longbo also, as a man. Al Jameen,

I'm not with a caras longus too, against the national of the time. Of the luta to do you,

many things varieg, even, as many, the same, the opponents, much, more,

the opponent different. So, in this lot in-in-s I don't have, I'm, I'm going to

say, that I see the victory the Al-Jami. You see he with a potential,

clear, to end- the you think that's you think it's a more

to be a little bit for five rounds there's five rounds I believe not

not subestimating the power and the type of both but for this reason are two

are very strategic long I see a lot of a lot of there

we're in Renan problem that in this six last year does the

last the last the party against Marius Green my friend

Bevillow, the podcast, how it's being the expectative a few years to say in the hand to guarantee this

a guardada the lot by the big, and by the grand a inch in the box.

And then, Guy, all good, thank you, man, thank for more one time,

for the opportunity to talk with you, I'm very very empougated to get to this semifinal,

yeah, I'm very focused, training, being, there's this opportunity to dispute

a semi-final still, I'm still the last, and where it's where I always wanted I

always wanted I always wanted I'm a great center and for me it's being a realisation I'm old. You know,

you know, poh, very rapid and less a minute in a count of the count of the

prevel, the situation of the controversy, you know, the case of top and how is that this victory took a piece of

your arms because you went to in the necessity, extreme, we had to have to be

to be able to this semifinal. How is you get to imagine in an embalad, more relaxed for being

of a great victory, or for saying that's a matter, no, no, no,

there's a lot of some controversies there, uh, happened to some,

I'm not going to perform very very well, but, so, same, story,

a lot all the other atletta pass for some problems but, car, very happy

in have implaced this victory and how was, the Buff is a man,

a man, and so, it's a kind of, I'd always, I'd try have idea,

and we had a relationship and we would be difficult, but, so,

it's, it's, we're, we're there, we went and did the thing to

do. And for this this there's that pressure of the pointuation, you know?

So it's a lot, so you can go with more caldela, with more tranquillity and not

there's a little more that's a little more more tranquil in this this lot, with this

Lutie Grin is a guy super experienced and was the FECD during a long, not enter

in the most of the career of his career in, not, he's been to the

battle to the other the victory the victories and the how is you think

the case the of the two, I imagine that you enter in this fight as the great

favorite even more after the total of performance of the PFL so I'm

I don't think I don't I'm in the much in a piece pesed

where one one can't you can't you can't you

know a man is a person he's he's he not a man over

he's he's three-round, very well, and he's a lot, it's a man, a lot of

a lot, like I'm a lot of a lot that we are studying well, he's not a guy

that's a thing, but he does a little of a lot, it's a really a

lot, so it's a lot of the lot of the and then to put up the moments to encachers

and you don't know, you know, you don't you don't be able to get in the round or

then get in the second round or then to get a , but I don't imagine that you feel satisfied no, I'm going to enter

there to do do you, so to gain for points and advance. You're always going to go to start and pass up to the guy, no,

with the impetus I'm impot I'm very, I am very in those, who have been who is my

scheme, like, you know, my scheme, there, I go to my better than independent of who is the end, and this

this time not be different too, I'm going to trynating to the carri,

I'm focused, I'm feeling this moment I'm just I'm doing this moment that's a different,

he's very much people, but there some of the knockouts, but the finalizations

in the career, yeah, you can't you know, the same the victory, there's a

breast, a localtee and you know, I'm going to get this to do

this, I'm, I'm trying much, we studied many the breaches of his, the changes he does,

so we've a lot of a game that's a good, so, so I'm sure, if I

see I'm at a brash, I'm going to the other semifinal, there's the Dennis Goldsov who,

he had a performance irretocable also, I got in less of 20 seconds, the guy,

mostperienced, and the guy, not a piece pesed he's a lot

in the time in the time and he's going to he's in the guy who will be

the winner the winner and who think you think you're going to get you but what

you think what you think you think the Dennis continue in this this

talk in this talkable in the you think the Jordan surprised

then so how we're talking before the lot of the lotterer

but also just a very good, it's a man experienced there, a guy who

has a box good, have a fiel afiated so this guy who is getting

there, we know we know very well the game the game but so it

would be a gold of solve in the final there. How is can't

imagine the focus total in Maurice Grin but what you have

you've did this lot with this lot of It's a guy that

will want to he's he's he's not he's he's not quite

try to the long with I'm he's he's a real

time in the time I'm having a point of quite quite to make make a

card to cancel the opponent to try to derubes to try to try

or a finalization it's a guy we're we're we're we're

we're to move into the ball long and have opportunity also and derubes to

get to get to get to the other issue important that's not being much to

the new year that's he's present in the event of the your last the final Lutae

in less a minute and he was impressed he said he said that you're a guy

that he's a guy who got to the style that's much he's very how he's

he's he's a champion of the F.C. He's came to John Jones won't

the centuron Vagour and but he's is one of the best, if not the best of

the pen, the peso the person, how is to hear of his elogios to the

last one performance? Oh, Francis is a guy that I accompanied in the FC,

yeah, I saw he looking the brutality that he had, the way of

he's also me really, and, like, I'm, to see, he,

seeing, he, seeing the my the lot there, just me impulsioner more.

And I was very happy, with a fall of his there's a lot of people know, know,

everybody's all the world, all the world so I'm sure that's so much for my career,

both professionally and financially too, the last time you got a great star

the UFC in the PFL, it, came a victory a rapid to your

side, you know, because there's all the problem that's the end up the end up

the way, but you, when you got the world, you know, you know, you think

it would be this duel with Frans Gannus to roll out in the year and the year,

the premiere of the MMA in the BFel is so next, but how you think you

would be this two, and the kind of a lot of a bit of a,

a, a, one, a, let me, two carretta so-

three guys, big, gigantic, very very strong. It's a guy that

really, you have to move and you can move, it's a person, and it's a specialist in the hand

too, man, there's a man a blow, not a explosion, so, so,

he's anxious too, to have this opportunity to make this look, the first his first

to try to tryson Fier in a lot of box, the most the most the most

the world in the most of the world, the fact, the impicto, the

Yeah, the nubre art, in the day 28th of October, they're going to say in the first of Lundu in the Box, yeah, contra the best the world. You think he has

some chance, there, to shock the planet and get to Zyong or you think he comes, like the great Azarone, despite of you

say, no, peser, no m.m. All the lovina is a little bit big, but in the box, the disparity,

the disparity, the experience and technique you, You think that the Frasigalu still to gain

to get him? Yeah, like you say, Tyson Fuhr, is a different, the style of his style

of his and the experience vast that he has been also that is a other

patamard. I think it will be a good experience for France I don't

think in the victory he he entered asarang as far to be

a person a person a person is a specialist in box the movementation is different

everything, not the not the same thing, and adapt to all the first, adapt to all this, this is a move to do take a little time I think he will he not will

have this time to get this time to get this level, but it's a lot that will do it be good to hear of this time.

Thank you very much a Amanda Lemmes Augusto Tankinu, Peter Munoz, Renan Problem and and a friend and a friend and the time.

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