MMA Fighting - Trocação Franca | UFC 293: Adesanya a caminho de Borrachinha ou Chimaev

Episode Date: September 6, 2023

É semana de UFC 293 e Israel Adesanya, e o campeão dos médios pode encaminhar um combate milionário em caso de vitória sobre Sean Strickland. O Trocação Franca recebe o jornalista Coutinho, do Canal Encarada, para destrinchar o duelo que interessa demais a Paulo Borrachinha e Khamzat Chimaev, dois fenômenos de audiência, além de analisar Cigano x Werdum e muito mais. O podcast recebe ainda Gabriel Fly e Lipe Detona, que lutam no UFC 293. O melhor do MMA brasileiro no Trocação Franca, toda semana, com o jornalista Guilherme Cruz e convidados. It’s UFC 293 fight week, and middleweight champion Israel Adesanya could set up a huge money fight next with a win over Sean Strickland. Trocação Franca welcomes Canal Encarada’s Coutinho to break down the match that interests both UFC draws Paulo Costa and Khamzat Chimaev, plus talk everything about JDS vs. Werdum 2. The podcast also features interviews with UFC 293’s Gabriel Miranda and Felipe dos Santos. Listen to Trocação Franca with Guilherme Cruz every week to hear from the biggest names on the hottest topics in the Brazilian combat sports world. Follow Guilherme Cruz @Guicruzzz Subscribe: http://goo.gl/dYpsgH Check out our full video catalog: http://goo.gl/u8VvLi Visit our playlists: http://goo.gl/eFhsvM Like MMAF on Facebook: http://goo.gl/uhdg7Z Follow on Twitter: http://goo.gl/nOATUI Read More: http://www.mmafighting.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Cruz. Hello, lo, oh, my friend of a centecente episode of podcast Trocaceau Franca, a show

about this business over the world of the question of the American and M.M. Faireo and the company in this time of my

friend of the coctin'nour and roste to the channel encarada to debate the last and the world

of the world of luta. All right my friend to get back to this Humilde podcast.

All right Umuid is for your cause, because this podcast is marvell this podcast is marvell

this podcast is my fourth or fifth a few times. You just I'm a lot of

some things here. I'm going in a porra no way but all the yeah. I'm not

a good time, I'm a great a special event numerated, yeah, I've passed

a time there, I was a time there's a reason, not a card

that's not a audience, in the audience, of hype, not me perhaps, for the moment,

this time, but it's a card numerated, the stucat, so we have much good

to say, Adesana, the people adore to say Adesania, so it's a great thing.

It was constructed from the first he was not a little bit under the country,

it was there was a idea that the other was a thing, that was a

thing, he was that was going to infant him, but he said that

he was they put on the time the one the only option viable

the chance three and it's that's paper, the classis, that if you

try the lot principal, he'd turn to a fight night okay, no, for the

Australian would be a fight night legal, because various aturess local, but for the

market global, would be a fight night the pattern, which is the fight night

Brazilian, generally, a event for the locales for the locales for the event,

that's a event that only the only, there's there, there, there,

there, in, Lutas a guy that always entreega, will infect the Brazilian

the European Trettona, have a Vosca, who has a porradaeria real, I'm a poradier,

me or Tysson-Peader, the other no-cautiator that's always do the good,

but it's a grand pay per view, uh, the Uberg is the team of the Kempurga

is the team of the Ytecerno that was rechained the cartes of there's So, how if you had to point out in a scale of 0 to 10,

the level of impugation and level of curiosity, for the card, without include the loss principal? Not could include the Sun and Strickland. Ah, so include the nut principal, would be there on three, in the tranquillity. I like to see the title invas to look to, to confront a Volkov.

I think it's a lot more than the category of despise, but it's not, the event entire is completely carried. And it's the type of of the F.C. That's the

is doing certain, if God will be done so it will happen. But, po,

it's a, not it's a heart that enche the eyes, not let us completely impugated

to the confronts, the confronts that will happen. But it's a good event. Like,

it's an event numberated and if we use that that the narrative that the people

don't know are marvellous the event is this. So if the theory to confirm, this event will be spectacular

and in the final will have the last year of Adesani with the Strickens. As you very said, I think curious in this

this is a lot, the chance of the trickens he was being tried by the proper book. He's he said,

but he went to the abound Magamendov I think is this the name the guy. He gave

in the publiciva in press after the event he said, he said he'd be a chance

if he if he had if he'd have been he would understand that if he wants, it would happen in Australia.

I don't know if he prevere it is, because by the demora that was the negotiation, for the UFC convincing him with the time of the size, I think if he would have been a more,

I think I'm here, but let me see, but I'm going to be, I'm trying. I didn't know, I thought strange, but I thought strange this,

this negotiation. Clearly, the FC had been the Dupli, the Adesania also, I'd try to try it, so,

the FC had to do the chance of Shantzrickers in Australia the case of the contrary is a tragedy I don't know

how they're going to be and the Uttaker the Uttaker the ETAQ so it's so it's not to lead a

card to point to get to turn Vultavis who's who looked in June and it was a problem that the F.C.

came to if God will do do certain and the lot of the talk that I was

listening before the St.R. The President the Wendler you was you considering

to put, transform this card of Paperview and Fight Night the time was the difficulty to mount a card digno of paperview, it happened

that rolled the DSA in the final, but they are refains if the lot would have it errone, there's a

substitute, the plan B for the Lott of the Cinturon, but that only will carry a

a lot of a lot of the first in the St. Strickland because imagine Shans St. St. St.R.

J.C. Canada, to be the centuron vago of the medes. What disgrace, BP, and even more in Australia, so the UFC is doing all the bandigues possible for that no

happen to happen the end uprolam to passcobolia until the Saturday to make that this lute but talking about the lot in the

way, it will happen, it will happen the night Adesaner I put the centuron in the show against the chance

Strickland a guy that nobody would have that had this opportunity to have this opportunity to

at least now, you see in him capacity to bring some to try some a RADSAN

we know like he's a guy born, he's some some of the career, but he has a game

to have an game he has but he is very very much very time different

to Justin Gage for example Justin Gage always ignored the bid and the credences he has

the crediteses he has been in Ressling. But the Justin Gage is a knockoutiator, Hanat. For Chance Strickland, before, before he had

knocked out of the car, but he not is known as far as the child. Nobody impending Chans Friedrichly with the fear of

the case the Adesani, if he would be puttas in the back the braso, the curriculum that he has

of the games, derubbara, and I think the people would be to be more,

but he just he just he just he's just he said to try a porrada that he should be

to try a wrestling, but he knows that he will will get in a hour he will want to try to try to

a porrada and I don't think the Chance Freakland is the type of guy that will be a kid

to play a idea to get a year, he will be a rasserer that he is a non-and- not inventing

to put up to be what he would do that the porrada don't have no way creditions much

many better not to be much, how I can't say, much expectative good in relation to

For other other other side, we've seen in the last years and years,

the rotativity of champions is very great. We've just seen Chonel Nocaltium

Aldiaman Sterling. So, my friend, there's something in the army says that the chance

Figglant has been the possibility to the Adesana it, it's

clear, more based in this expectation to M.A all can happen and it

happens not based in the credentials and technique of the because if you put on the paper the Adesani is

much superior to Shanstrekland and probably in my head if I would have to post it in more a victory

dominant tranquill of the Adesania in the case the Adesania should be more inflamed to do a

thing special when was that was that he had been four years I think for 2019 yeah

yeah yeah And, poor, that moment for him in a stadium whenceal Uy that's in a way, it's

that's a idea of the idea of the countering imagine the Mara Pocatine imagine the confidence. It's going to

do you want to do something to do something. I'm going to you. I'm going to you, I'm going to you really

M.A. All right all these cliches marvellous that we know, but I I think the chance to the Twicken

is a burrow to do you can't to get a thing to get a point out of a Poitin no I'm going to

try a porrada with Poeatan was one of the performance more limited interpretations that I have seen in the

story of M.A. You've went to a guy from a poratam and is like a try and I'm say I'm gonna

test that guard of him I'll let him mount on me and see what happens. It was the guy he did with Poetan

I'm going to put up with a porrada with him he went in a job of Poetan and he was

quite a courtier in poor not form of course he was quite amador in that he's he even

he's he went to get to the Dukh if there someone who has someone who

he will he will be he will he will be going to something new to but I'm trying

to not to make that he will will continue much he can he can't

he can't of a base, have a show different, can't have a a key better than the

other than the other than the kind of pretty zero the car, but the DNA of the

car is to go to get to a porrada, so I would be so he would be

so he would be going to us bring down with scenes for the

highlights of Adesania and the idea of the book of

the scenes of the high-level and will go and it will say, carlety. We'd say this

little bit of thinking, the Adesanii is the long and the best of the world and not there's a

question in the because I think he will give that those performances to get the chapel. I don't think

the show he can't he even a game, he even would be he can't do you to put into

the lead to try to try to try to try to try something that in practice.

Car but I use much as a reference John Jones, you know, I want to

the guy, he's intelligent to the carl he's he's he mape all the

good, the pros and contes and he is a little he's faring, if he

will get bad, he'll get to he's he has this posture

of a macho, he all right, and all over the essence of the car,

it's difficult really you have to be a man to your moment,

even more a spruce to the centuron you have to have to be a manned to bea not you're not looking

that's a manned and he's there's a opportunity there I think the people even even know

that he could get to get to get to a man he's going to say, oh my man, I'm

going to know, because the world not not prepared to see a chance freaking as

he's like a champion and I will be you've you've been you've imagined you

imagine you the world chance The most moment that we expect of the chance to Prickland is in a collective of the press. He will do the show of his,

he will talk of his besteater of his, will provoke the Adesania, probably will take the adesania to the series. But, poor, it was the moment to put a viola in the sack and

say, no, this is a concourse of a I need a minimum intelligent and wince the Adesani that not is for any,

in MMA, only two men have two men They've got done this and do this in the car,

anyway, not I think chance we can't have a goody or not I think the lot of the way to be

the way to be the way to I think he I think that he really really train for car really,

I think it's what we're talking, it's more a question of QI if he want to

be intelligent he could be able he can't but it doesn't it will be the

percorre of fight Week if he will do some declaration more inspire and more confidence and who confia

and then confia and we're mentioned the J.J.E. No, N.N., you think he is just this step

if it happens a matter, or you think that is an indicative that he is the next the field

to the central? I don't think it's the next the field no, I think the

F.C. are going to the F. Kmaev and Borrashin the Alessani

did a declaration for M. M. Firing this same saying that

is He didn't say this. He could simply ignore or, oh, let me know,

but none of the do we're but he says that's a sign in the time he's not a signal of that's out of

that's out of the Borrachia can't I think for Adesani is more comfortable, he's front

a guy that he's got a high really strong and he's that's got the Morrachina if he wins

the Kimaev in Abu Dhab he gets ginaceousous than a dose triple of secret juice.

So I think the Adesania is really considering that the next the final year will say to see this

other. The UFC also also I think the general has a measure with him there,

yeah, Jerrys, let me put out here, this means that you are a problem, but

don't it's not can't guarantee, no, the general the general he probably

will probably will say, no, I'm probably I'm going to talk,

no way the majority of the most of the most I'm doubing

I'm not I'm not David he's not spectacular for the general for the people just

if the chance Strickland like, moeed the porraceana in a porrata in 30 seconds then the

Arasana not has a revanch he's he's novite I don't have no

he doesn't I think in no he doesn't yeah I think no but I'm

if there's a lot narrative is that he's he's he's because it's

it's a look so a lot too horrible too but but,

in the end, who won't it? It was, it was. It was to you know, that's not that's a

thing, the guy had a opportunity before the signporon, because he gave the

Mark Vettori also, like, not, nothing incredible, so, so, it's what

did, not say much you're saying a lot of a lot of reserve, I don't know that you

see the argument, to be the argument, to be, no, he's, he was there he,

he was he, he was the the question of the film. But you said, that the Adesana care that the Kimaev venza to to have a

new, and obviously he knows all the hype that he may have represented in the MMA today. I think the UFC care that the Kimerv v.

Because the Borrachia has been a door of the head during a much time for F.C. Lutas anucat unciated and canceladas,

critiquing the F.C. publicly, on the media social, the interviews. A guy that we have to

recognize to have He has got quite courage, many balls, but to be promove to be positionar publiclyly, in the form of he's positional. It's corrective to

go righteimed to go ahead. The friend is so accustomed to say English, he'll say many balls. In Portuguese it's adduce for much cullion.

There's a cullion. There's a lot of position publicly and it's certain, man. It's right. that you, C., mania

is to do you have to do have to be he's not, he's not, he's not, he's not,

that's a lot was surreal of the UFC to announce that it's, that's, the guy with a barrachin

and would be front of that's, that's, and the Aliskeh he will go to

go to go to go to Zemannor any other, like a let me, let me, let me,

let's see, the name of the guy, the guy the guy who far more the,

like, He's going to have to be a man who, the Polo Bonachina, that's the top three of the UFC, will have fentar the IMAV, who is even a certain experience in the UFC, yeah,

it's been, he's affected the chance of Tricklin, yeah, got him, the Buckley, the Chabazin, he, was a guy who,

a lot of the time, so I'm posturing the guy there, but, post on the guy, more Rusk that's coming to make a barule,

but no, a guy to to confront the barhachin, the car, 1-0 in the organization, but what's

your expectation for your question? We're going to get, everyone involved like the UFC,

the Wadesana that is the victory about the Mewavi about the we're going to talk about

about it, but what you're doing about the postura chino the postura the postura the thing

we can see in the social, the strength of him, he's saying that, I don't

see, it's was to Boudab or or just going to Budav, is acclimatar, after the chaos

that was the fight his against the what you're doing, a lot of the little more than a little more

more than what you're seeing now this Borrachin that's a counter the Kimaef, which is a problem,

I think we have to remember that the Borrachina, what was the last one was the was the

contrary, it was not, no, the Jardtoy, he was the Rockhoad, Rock-Owe,

perfect. But I was to say the question of the question of the story was that the question

on the question of the person who the burrachina is going before a good

and be good good good movement but that that

the country made clear there I don't see I

don't think I can try a a reason he

was he's for he's for not and then vacill

with he really he really he really if he he's this

problem that not exist more, against the Rock Road. But what Marev is a lot of a loter completely different.

And in that the fight, maybe that's a vision embassaled of the people in relation to cardio,

because it's a lot of an altitude, so it's difficult to call out of the carge of Borrachin.

The Borrachian will make much more to Chimaih to be able to get to B'amhe is a lot of

trying to Kimeev, I'm sure to try to Roveh and knock to Ruffin' the

I think a scenario very improvable. The Burrashia, so, has to work to work of the cost of of the piece

has been very very well and adaptation has been very well, and he has been to be prepared to be able to

keep that he's a chance of his is much more than the majority of people maybe

think the hate that is so great that the people don't boughoughough a lot more the fact of the chance of it is

bathe more pesed, he's more accustomed to this category is different to Kimaev and jog to

the alt the guys of the middle. So, I'd say, I'd say, I'd try the Kimaev to be a favorite,

but to put a bohrachnya to be a thing is the world, and the morrachina is a kind of

very strong. So I think the Kimaeva is a liginately favorite for the point of the game of

derubada, I know that he train up carlough, will get to, like, sedent, will be done into the house, so for this I treat him as a ligerer favorite.

But I think the chance of Morracheen is much more than the people are considering. So, so, it's a lot, a prato-cheo for

a person to a fun of the luthas, it's a lot that we'd want to the provocations and all,

and indiscutably the guy who who wonce this lot, will be this lot that Meve and Morrashia

will be able in moral, batte in the face, I'm a a son a pox of

this poor man, I'm sure, but the Borrachin, a victory a biter a biter

a man, thence the Chimaibe in the Abu Dhab is a big,

as same as it's a feint for the Kmaev pass for a top of the

category of the match that is the I'm definitely this form

I think myev Lever Ligerame but much poor and the chance

of Borrache is a really great, car. So I'm very curious

I think it's a prado for a fan of luthes and it's it's a next one of a final

wince I think it's a lot chaotic. That's the like the Kimaev not will

try to pull up he will get to and go on the pern as the porrash

against the grid or just try to try to try to put out to be

how it can be this confront of wrestling offensive with the defense

of the defes the the Durin, recently, here on podcast, he said,

what will be this is the clings. Who can get the clings, gain the lot of the in the

way of the in-the-in-pe putting him to be in-back. I think that really is the tonic of the lute.

I'm curious to see, how is the how he may have with the force, because, ah,

he got the he got on the last look, but, but, but, but,

he's a guy, super-fort-on so, like, a guy, a guy that a great

defense of a KERRACHIN, not that the Boroachin, also has a great defense of Kedgerna, but he's a guy that has a lot of time. He took on time in Natal, training with his

brothers Speed Bull, training with Eric Abaracin. So, we can't see what the guy gave a focus on this area. He not had been at all to-a-toe until Natal.

He was because the Barracin was there to do a question of wrestling and the defense of Kedkaa. I also I don't do a favoritism

Al-Qimaev just in a povertyism major, because we don't he front a guy

great as a morrachina when he he looked of a middle was against the Kevin

Holland and he was against the the how he was the the name of

the Gerald Mischert who he gained in 17 seconds that

was a play a play a yeah yeah I think

no there even but it's but not the but not the

question so this is the great point of the question of the Kimeev, until the moment,

he kind of corresponds the expectation. What do you expect that what you do you do maev do with Kevin Holland? Amass. Amasso? What do you

expect that what you may have with the Miscay? Aropel. Aropel. What do you expect to do you doring?

You know, you know, you know, you know, I don't know to say that I'm mindinar and

prevy that was a lot the way to but we know, but we know the runger a lot of

the level, as he a borrachina. So I concord in this part that

you said to be a lot disputed I think I'm would be surprised if it was

a party of a little bit more about a lot like a ballachina versus one of the two,

and the guy who won't be going to get a good I'm I'm

I'm going to go to the last topic about our our

next week we're we're my Cigano, Fabrice Verdon, in the MMA without luvres of the event of Robes-Masudal,

a thing more a leaptory of the times, the other kind of a phase complicated, yeah,

he's, he's, the UFC, the UFC, he went to the top, he was a matchings

knockouted for all, he was, he was, he was, he was, after being against the

Yorgande Castro, and he got, led to the officer, you, went to the

NFL, he was a problem, but Renan a problem, unlawed a lot of a way

way of a problem very, but never back back. He said, he said, he said, he said,

but it's going to back to this fight to this fight with the world, you can

be to be to the two are very big, the two, poor, rashed and they're

being in the two are going. If the Rodrigo Bosch did a analysis, Nere or fake Neri,

I think the two will have will have a martello batting by fake nere by the analysis surprising of how the

guys have been the cigano is a monster porras, porras, the form that he's

bizarre I don't know I'm going to in details I don't how it works the anti-doping

of the game Brad also I'm not not I'm not I'm don't know

the guys are the guys If you're in, that's in, that's in, that's in

conditions there's, yeah. If they're in, porh, deitado in the

poor, go, go, go, go, go, we want to get a porth

men, the guys, go back, box and Lugna, M, M, M, A without Lov,

MMA, CLEUves. M.A. CLEU.? So, it's, it's been to

be sure definitely, uh, see these two, po, are so representatitive for the M.

Brazilian, is a revanch that we've always done it's a lot of a lot of the cigano in the fact

the verdun never said or he said about the knockout that he suffered of the cigano so maybe in the

world he always had in the mind of him that this reenco could be not so he

could happen in a box but he but he's pretty worried but he probably probably be

probably be so probably to be able to know what it would happen because are two lot-dor-a-o

there's a lot of boxing the monsal the man-sado the band of a man-sada

of the cigano with a monser with a love, not be very very much

very and the verdun porre of us is old-school yeah the guy

I'm not I'm in pride oh he's a this type of

this type of this type of this so I'm so I'm I'm very curious

I I don't say I don't say I can't get which I think will be a lot very just too,

because not two guys completely in activity. I don't remember the age of the two,

but I imagine that they, at least M.A. have more a more thing, it's not

that's very time, but the activity in the sport permits that they make more

and less in equality. So, the Redund has seven years a more of age.

It's 46, count a 39. And the has the, the,

the, the, the, there's, he's a little more than he did a

whole, he did a, he did he did he came to M.M.A. four

years, before, of Verdu. But, yeah. And the Verdun, like,

for the , poor, Verdu, more vivid, not I will say more veiled,

not I'm more vivid, but I'm 46 years, car, he's going to start in

a M. M. And the Verdon, who, who, who who, who, who he also also is in a form

absurd, too. Oh, seco, is a far carl, training legal. Oh, my man,

I think or someone will say, or the two, right? With the question, with the

little bit, the other, I think, I'm a interview that was made with him recently,

that he actually, he thinks, for not have luvver, could facilitate, could favor

the game of Verdum, which is the said this and for this, for the moment of the

two, especially the moment of the Cigano, that not very good, I do a favoritism to Mardom. What is the palpitche?

I do favoritism to Vernum also, but for other aspect. Along to be a guy, that can use

the chan, it's good in the trocaation, it doesn't nothing to nobody, but I

don't know, it can be leviando that I will say, but I think the Verdun

has more the car of MMA without the same luba, you know, the

wordun, I think that's a cat in a crosted in the he's going to

be more more so it's something that he had been in some career

of his the this is a expectation that you take a

ball with a thing you take a hand a man we

did what did you know what happened he did the last the

guy you would be a with a guy, without a woman, I've never a little bit

sorenu me seems more this type of this type of this type of I'm sure, I'm obviously mordered

my language but I don't know, I don't know my favoritism to him much for because he

has more the character to perform well, he's kind of that's but before

before, but before, before, before, the, my thank you, the question

to be time to to talk to me about about Luta to bring a little of your

little of your self and of your good of your people who don't know but who people are

your be your your Instagram, various photos your some of your same camis

for delir to all and of all and of all of YouTube the channel Encarada

where you do you do you do do you do this so you take here the tapete

vermeer is extended to make your Mershan, I know I know there's

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how's the expectation of to say in the month after the last year after the last last month, imagine that's there in the anxiety to enter in octagon

to do you know, my name. Hello, I'm a lot of podcast. Po, a man, talk about a time with you

now, car, I'm anxious. It's a bit certain year since the main year, since the last year that I

did, so we're 100% now, we're ready, we're prepared, and I'm very oncious to do the show for the for the guy, and I'm really, why did you know

what happened that's the next what happened to? Exactly, it's a year and six days after. Exactly. I came doing a

a surgery after the last time. I was a little lesionado before the last the lot, then after the

last time, I did put in a surgery, then I took a recuperation, it was all the whole, all the end of

the chronogram until the time, and now we're saying percent, now, 100

even in all the quits to go out and really to show our our job 100%.

Well, imagine that it's not the anxiety to maintain a sequence, because you get to

look to 19, 18, there's 8 months to 19 19, and then came the

pandemic, you just got to get to back in 2021, then balor two

segued but after three NFC and now one to one to the second

the last, it's about a, embalar a rhythm a little,

yeah, exactly. This is the idea is your chronogram I'm 100% I'm still I'm making a big over

this, bring a victory and let's see there's a wager to some paul to San Paulo yeah and

let's be this janela of an little to a lot of two months not a thing you just

you just did a carreira but for the FCC of San Paulo would be just I'm let's be

let's see the let's be the a lot Saturday, if it's a lot that's a lot that's

a lot that's in the we're in going to be going to say well, I'm going to get to be

the integrity physical preserved, with the I'm going to maintain the the pace and will

be able to be able to a point a man very very hard, the guy who

who came in the organization just just per one there for Ezeo Capoeira

the how that you know that you did you when you evolved with a

athlete with the difficulties that you have you have been in front in that that's right exactly,

Beno is a very hard, I had seen he looked before he was going to category, I came the

lot of two two months, it was a lot of difficult, so that nobody wanted to

get a category, and even with two months for a and came to get him to get him.

With certain, I've brought me especially with the question of the

start, vislumbrate all that I've worked during years, is going to go to the

next time, I'm going to be more calm, more tranquil, I'm going to have been seen this sensation of the time

to be able to get into the FC. So, I'm more a more calm, for we're going to not, for we're going to make that,

more than more more than I'm more than, it was a lot and it's, but it's all right, it's happened, and when I

I was just I was there there, and now, with the got, I've got more mature now to the next fight.

It's clear that nobody doesn't know, but you entered in a scenario that you know, that you didn't have to

get a lot, because you entered in a category that not your country, that was the kind of the organization,

and it was that was kind of expected, you know, for being a person, playing a lot, in the other

division, and if you can't be, for a, but you're sent it so, or not? you can't see the cop

I feel like to win because the lot of the lot of the I don't go to get to get always, I went to

do my better in the same I went to show but that all the counter the guy was

a lot of difficult he had more experience in the F. He had two years of two years of

a lot a category different he de 1077 I was subed in 6M so I

was with a lesion there so all going summing there, but the important

is now that I'm going to a lot of I'm going to be able to my 100% in my best no more level.

And you see that now when the situation are the situation have been to be the thing that's

a man who's a man who has been a lot of experience in MMA. We've got to confront

the Volcanovic in the extra NFC there's, there's much time for this but yeah

he's front the guy who's you're a man you you're all all

all the the style of the style of a new good kind of you get there and

show you know that's the general not the not the question in the person

that's the question of the reason the category does that category does a lot of the impact,

absorption all the all over but I couldn't manage him but I gothue

my hand my hand on him particularly I didn't even I'm actually the question of the

piece of the question of a guy also experienced in the UFC, I believe that is the 6th or the 7th

his last one he's, he's a lot of the guy who's a guy who's not in bobeer, is a

little bit more that's a victory also, so it's a little bit more that you don't know

to dobeer, it's to get to get a lot of the same percent to show

and to bring this finalization to Brazil that's that's this is the this is the

finalization to put out it to put down to and use the exactly finalization,

get a bonus and performance in the more finalization and it's he never was finalized in the MMA

and won't a minute his first of his victories he came to but you see that the he didn't

even front someone who has he's infatu Vokanoves but Vokanovs not was not was

not able to finalize him but you see that you're watching the the

and you encounter the means can't the possibility of to put

him to to to put to it to to- yeah Exactly. We've got a

good study in a good he knew various brats in Jiu-Jitsu that if he did a bobeer with me,

what he showed in those lutses there, and it's for the way, Maneo, Camarada. Poh, tomorrow

that did all this sort of this year, that's all right, that's sequencer in the UFC, Sao Paulo to

get the rhythm that's using, yeah? Imagine the form, yeah? Tenteza, the want to be prepared to get

to get, now is to get back, not be sure, not so much time, and put up a second

a new 24, then it's the year to the end of the end of the other side of we're,

we're the Philip of the Santos, O'Lip Detona, that the day 9th of September, does the showstres out of the FC, is a bit of surprise in the show. I was doing the Contenday Series. Contrung, then to a country, after a lot of times,

you're with a passport caribed without having to pass up by the Peneer. Bevited a podcast, Vigo. And we're trying to deal with this emotion total of, to viaja to Vegas to try a vaga and try to to say in the

hand to gore to confront a guy that is one of the one of the division

of the Mosca. First, thank you for the opportunity to be here with

you too, for me, thanks a God, I'm going to you say that I

think is what I always I always I always I always I always the emotion of this

and then I'm more too, but I think I was very emotional I'm I came to

to Las Vegas to put a contender came to I'm back my I'm back in the I'm

dehydrate I did my work and then the day when I went to I got

it was I received the news that my adversary no had not had bated

the no and I I'm I'm without I think so I'm

so I I need the opportunity of my life, but, but, but the things good are not going to be calm,

I have the I have a job wonderful with a great, and I know more I was to say that was to come, and for me

it was gratificant after that I was thinking that I would be able to in other card, even more the card enumerated

an athlete ranked for me that was sensational of the reality how much time did you have been

this mountain russes of emotions even they said they said when the lute after minutes after and they've started with

this idea of you met a manel cap in in the fact it was a I believe

that two or three hours of the loggia we went there in four and then I

I was in in the camera, and I was in really, because I had been

to get ridgetar and then so I went to my weight my work, I'm doing

my adversary not being my person, I didn't get in I'm

I was, I'm to pass, I'm to my work, I'm most my paper.

So I think that that's It generated a professionalism, and then, then I went to the fourth, and then I was thinking, I said, I said,

damn, I'm, everything I want, my opportunity, and I came to come to come to this, and I don't want to let this pass. And then,

it's a thing of two hours, I think, when I was, I was in a camera, and then I did a, a a bigadier

with Diego Lima and said, I'd I'd know to see Australia

and then in a few hours like, like, it's a mail was to

it was to get to the Diego Lima but then then

he got for me first and I said oh, he said in a mail

Australia is an name Australia here and I I said carly

I said, and no the and did no He mulled for me.

I said, I said, carlale, you know, you're stored and then I said, I said,

he said, he said, I said, man, of the cell, I was just, I'm, I was,

I got a an armace on him, he gave a breath on Do Do you, that's my,

that's a fish still didn't have had been no, I, at the time I was

I was I was so, and then, like, they, they said, he said,

we're going to go, and he's to the paper-ladda, that we're walking, and then, I'd come in the reality, so, I said, man, do you see,

that's hell, that's cool, I, like, I started, I never shored in my life, as well, I'm surey this way, and I, I think it was 30 minutes there, even, shor-nating, and then I, I started

to call to all the athletes of the chute-box, the athletes most next who came, who came, me helping, during these days and it was a lot of emotion, of the reality.

You've got to do you know, you're in a while, you know, in the beginning of your career, like, two months, between one or another. You don't get a lot, but will be a lot to go to a few weeks

in Australia, but you got to do a cut of a piece, you're going to do another cut of the post of the post moj. It's a thing that you preoccup?

You're going to give an attention to more because of this, for cut the two times in a interval short?

In fact, for me, it's being being so I'm I'm doing my my piece

my my, how I can't say the my percent of the

goodure is a little bad so I'm don't have much difficulty

to bat the person I'm I think it's just a hour

that my power that I have to take to take to take care and not

come in not come nothing to be nothing to be not to not secure my

but I think that there no problem no I'm I'm

in a situation in a situation for me I think you don't have a difficulty because my business

is my I'm not and, and, or not, it's, it's, it's,

it's, it's, it's, it's, it's been getting more maguel, so,

we can't get to get up but I think the we're doing here, I'm just

I'm going to be on the Ipex, also, I think, it's, I think,

make a more, more innovative 100%. Well, box, is, is a,

she's, I'm, more accustomed with the climate of the FC, because, I think it's the Filippe

Cateonejo, had a galena but now invadio of a multitude, yeah, the team entire there

is with many other the organization and you think that you help in this moment of the emotion

of the first because we have seen various luthers, many many of the people,

like for example the Jogo Lops who more that's over the first, the car top of the

division and did a he was going to the fight, he impressioned a lot, he impressioned a

first to be the one of the players, a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a man who has

the elite there's the elite to the team, experience, on your help how,

in this moment? Ah, in the fact, that's the box, I think, it's a It's more our mental,

how we support every every different in our life. And so, I believe that there's

there's there's that's that's that's that's not, to intimidate

with nothing, I think, to work about under pressure, I think is what we do a

day there, and I know, I'm a part of I'm really, and in

Tominas Thomas Olmeida that is a man that's just picked pedreira,

did great lot of, I think, I think, received the counsel of these guys, too,

and train with them, never, me getting, me, making, so,

so, I think, I've got a little difficulty in my life, but in

question of a pressure about the lute, I'm very so, I'm very , because,

there, the other other guy also, the same the same way, with the

with the same the same so I think it vense the who wants to who can

who can who's more, who's who's who's who made more,

so I believe that I think I think no I'm important of all

and why Lipettona what what explanation of this affil

there in the fact the my luts always

were some were some some those were I curvy a rapid, and I always,

the performance, the doctor, no, grace to God, it's always was gigante. So, so, I, when I was a mulek, I said, I'm a man, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I need a

that's something that, I'm going to impact to then, and then I said, caramba, and, do nothing, my friend of my said, then, detona, and and I said,

then it's this, then, then, then, and then, And at from that day, it started Dtona, and then when

it was a time, it had basically five years, that the people had been called with this name,

and it was that's been so it. I believe that God I believe the story, and it had

to be, if it wasn't, this name, I think, it would make a sense, uh,

for my origin. You were an adolescent when they launched the design of the Ralfh, Detona,

It was a design that you were to see? It was not not was my time I think I didn't not I couldn't get a little but I've

I've seen yeah, I saw the design and I think it's legal too So how is on the day

9 the lip detona the manel cap I'm I'll tell with a athlete

a a little I'm in the day I think I always I always

I always I'm the opportunity that I can't to let's pass what comes from there

he can't have been to the same way to be the same way it's always that's always it's always

and I believe I'm going to be quite happy and I don't have much a pressure

to carry about a but an athlete who will be a lot of time to make to make

the front to put I'm not this a victory to to go to Brazil. Manila,

Camarada, thank you much for attention for the repubate in this straw,

man. Da-aura, very good. I'm good. I'm that good. And,

and, and I'm, and you know, I'm, back, do you

do that go back, a finalization? You can have a knockout, nocout,

no, I'll think the knockouted him with a shoot. So, I've

trained a lot so, and I I don't believe if it's the want to God, it's a thought of God, I'm doing a job incredible, so

it's what I'm going to even if I'm going to get a finalization, you can't have no gattil, too. A we can't get up here, with this week of the podcast, I'm saying too much as a Coltino, Gabriel Fly, Lippe, Detona and I'm a friend of the same.

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