MMA Fighting - Trocação Franca | Vicente Luque Quer Luta De 10 Rounds Com Nate Diaz

Episode Date: October 27, 2021

Vicente Luque vai ganhar na loteria? O Assassino Silencioso, que cresce a todo vapor na categoria até 77kg do UFC, conversa com o podcast sobre sua campanha para enfrentar Nate Diaz em duelo de 10 rounds no octógono e seus planos para roubar o cinturão do ex-companheiro de treinos Kamaru Usman. Luque conta, também, como a mãe, faixa-preta de caratê, o ajuda nos treinos, por que jamais enfrentará Gilbert Durinho, e muito mais. O episódio conta, ainda, com uma resenha com o jornalista Jorge Correa, editor do Omelete, sobre a visão do MMA na grande mídia, Paulo Borrachinha dentro e fora do octógono e, entre outros assuntos, os melhores filmes sobre MMA. O melhor do MMA brasileiro no Trocação Franca, toda quarta-feira, com o jornalista Guilherme Cruz e convidados. Will Vicente Luque hit the lottery? The rising welterweight discusses his idea to face popular veteran Nate Diaz in a 10-round fight in the UFC and his plans to dethrone former teammate Kamaru Usman. Luque also reveals how his mother — a black belt in karate — helps him in training, and why there’s no chance he’ll ever agree to fight Gilbert Burns. Then, Brazilian journalist Jorge Correa stops by to debate how the the non-MMA media sees the sport over the years, Paulo Costa’s recent weight debacle and his presence outside the cage, the best MMA movies, and more. Listen to Trocação Franca with Guilherme Cruz every Wednesday to hear from the biggest names on the hottest topics in the Brazilian combat sports world. Follow Guilherme Cruz @Guicruzzz Subscribe: http://goo.gl/dYpsgH Check out our full video catalog: http://goo.gl/u8VvLi Visit our playlists: http://goo.gl/eFhsvM Like MMAF on Facebook: http://goo.gl/uhdg7Z Follow on Twitter: http://goo.gl/nOATUI Read More: http://www.mmafighting.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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And representing the M.M.A. Fighting in Brazil, Guilermis! Hello, my friend of Funn't You know a 8th episode of the podcast To Co-Castroca Sunfranca, A Suh, Aux on this immense part of the spheria. I'm gonna beaqruis,

correspondent of the site American and M.m.fari, in Brazil, and I'ma back on the company of Vicente Luc, a lot of the campaign for infant the polarizant, Nate andes in the end of year in NFC.

But, before to talk with a unassasicious, we'll bathe with George Correier, who for years, who for years, who worked as far

who worked as of the sport of the wall, being the car at front the covertura in the most portal of the news of the Brazil, but who took

the world do you to talk of things much better, now as a editor chef of omelet, site about the universe of films and series and all that

englob. This is a part of life, right, the part of relaxer, all right, all right, my pleasure

there, thank you, thank you, for the invitation. It's, it's a saddade at all right, I'll say,

we've said we've made a lot of together, we've done, we've done, that's a little,

that's, the cancassas, that was also that's already a career and then two children in the house

to be there in a repens, but a little sadism, I admit it, I'm doing, this time, I'm doing to work with

a M.A. Cara, the characters were very good, in the beginning, I don't know, I'm going to

say, that I surfed the end the hour perfect, I was there was there was up

I'm still I'm sure I'm coming to work with MMA in 2009. So, by,

the Anderson, he was Anderson, the Aldo, the Aldo, but I was just writing, I was in the time the OUnda

came, the Omba 12, yeah, the globe entered, there was the FCRille, and it's

that we're that we're really good that we don't necessarily to sport, I love to the champion,

got to see the Brazilian winning, so we're there, we're in this one,

11, 12, 13, that was Anderson Aldo, Cigano, Shogun, Putt, Lioto, was like,

Victor Belfort, also in a phase good, this was really a lot of, we're going to mainstream.

We can't say, you can't say, you know, but in that that time, we've always

live in mainstream, you know, I think that this, this was the legal, a

we've seen the thing, it's a bigante. And, looking in perspective, what I

think it is, I'm, meaning or not, the MMA not

very I mean, it was in 2011, 12, 13. But I think he could educate the public Brazilian in a level of that we have a channel paid exclusive

of MMA in Brazil, and I think that's not a little thing, because I'm not, a globe, not a fadda, a boazin

that does so by the moral sport, if the Globe has a channel paid exclusive for MMA, it's because

some, some, some lucre some, I think that it's this. We, I can

me include, include much you, Gu, I include a lot of people, that we can't

we can't educate very the public for that could be to be this public

fiel, I think we we can't get a thing, we're not, not,

not, not have not, not have the TV abet, the global there,

even a arrasasad, it's ajust of expectations in relation to the Globo, of the Group Globo in relation to sport.

But for example, maintain covertura with reporters in the States New York, have a matter in the sport spectacular,

have a matter there in a fantastic of a time when, ca's the characters to the TV abetta and

maintain a channel a special, or so people who pay them all the same value that

not is a little little bit about this work that we did in the last 10 years. And we've lived in a world

different, because I was a table specialized, but a vehicle specialized, but a vehicle small, it's a new new, that's a portal, that the guy, when

the public comes to go to go to the wall and access to the MMA, the audiences of the MMA, the covertura, are the numbers

good, you'll see that you've got to a other patam. How is the years of before and before, how it was the curve

of access, as compared to football, for example, which is a world of the world of the world,

no. In some moment, in 2012, 2013, we, we swenbrough with that

the M.M.A. d'all gave that a bit of a lot of a car, no,

there's no there's one can't first, football is a thing that's very in

our cultural, for more that's the lutas, put the Jiu-Jitso Brazilian, also, even so,

this what you said, it was a work of a new time, it was a time, it was what we

did we furr a niche and to get a niche, in this time in that we had a

lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a child, you know, a film, a world,

you know, a problem a great about the Zaldo, not a not a poca something.

The Anderson Silva was the sportista most known of Brazil for the

football during two, three years. So I think in terms of, let, I think, we're going to,

we're going, we're doing, we're doing doing the work of the base, my, the legal of the

commencing, is that I could cover, the guys, the poor, Brazilian, not very, like,

George Sanpier, I, I've worked I've done B.J. Payne, we did, we did,

we've made a lot, we're going to talk we we're talking, we're we're going to do

just maybe for I was there, the guys, the Brazilians, my, one thing before, you know,

a lot of, you know, a lot of, a process that me marked much, before the before this boom,

were the Liotto with Shogun. So, are, like, so, the, the grand

public, not remember exactly much, but, but, for who was, there's,

he came, that, those first luts, or even the Lyot, getting the the centurion

with the , like, It was a lot that's a car, that's a good a little that's a

thing that's, it's a a thing, a new I remember very much, so I remember much clearly,

you know, and all this thing that we did, and it was, it was to do you know,

which is a dodeer, because, the officer one, the Andson, he had been a

first lot of the first lot of the FC of all the F.C. of all of

terms of narratives, of what happened of what happened there, and what

It happened after. I think it's very difficult to we find a lot of a lot of another than that one of the first one of the United Stateson Couthey. But, even, so, in Brazil, we still did a sort, that I remember that in the time, the Sport TV, had a right to pass an event of the FC per month. The rest of all in combat. And the Sport TV has chose this

little bit of this event for the Anderson Cutsale, Sony. So, many people saw, so that just a little bit Then, then, we came the FCR-1, which I think this, so, is the same, it was the

big of the big of the thing you know that you know that's a story, my, UFC was the

TV, for simply because the Globo, the Marino, not be interested on that moment, not be

the UFC and the MMA in TV aberta, so they had a combat, but, well,

they're on shoulders and they're the FC with the, with the, with the thing,

but then what happened with that the not a best, you know, for more that the marines

don't, not have any didn't have much carino for the sport for a modality in the way, they were a

thing, it's, it was a thing, the U.S. is the great divisor of the water's what

happened in Brazil. So, there we don't, we can talk, there was,

there was, a question of, when this question of audience, a we live much of,

when we have a peak much great, the quater not a proportional. When we go very rapid, it's down, but

in a patamar more more high. So, it was what happened with the MMA. A we have great peaks and that were making the patamaries more alt. The F.C. Hill 1, patamar.

The Luta of Cigano, that the Cigano was a champion. It was the first the globe was all-vivo. Puta, bata, bata sort. So, I thought, I thought, like, I thought it, like, it was going to

a peak, patamar. then, then the Lutta the Luton with Chessorin, the second

has been another Lutton, the first Luton that he had with the Weidman who perde

So, the last the last the last big pick that was the Luton was a

question It was a thing, it was a thing, it was an audience, an audience

of the Cops of the World that we had been in a war in the time.

So it's a So it's a lot of And then it's And I think that we We think we're And the legal That's in this Mereau of the

It's obvious We've had many Those people That were Charges that were Mentioner That's a

Anderson The Anderson Was Anderson I said It was like The Juna Cigano The Lackin

Velasks That's Apes, that's It's been Doughes did much repercussions After the

Yeah And then And then the Lutadu Kona McK Gregor, who also was the ultimate suspicions of the M.M.M.A. Brazilian, was the Luta of Lando

and Gras. And now we're maintaining, no, the characters that don't are people, and they're interested, and then then they've got to be people, but they're even, even even, even, even, both, bohachinia,

the Charles of Brunx, who is a guy that's there from this era, but, it's, it's, it's, but, it's, it's, it's, it's, We've got to educate the people, the great public, and then we're that we're going to be able to maintain a channel, and I think it's an interest

because even a while, I don't work more in the Ola, I don't work with a sport, it's just a few, three years, but if you see, it's always that there's a lot of Italian, a call on top of the Home Dole, the Globe, still, there still, a group that has a coverture on the site for during much time. So I think that this does much about this work that we did in, say, 10 years, 12, 15 years. We've seen Charles of Broncos as a champion. Davidson, this

year as a champion we've to have taken to the sitoron, will try to the clover, the week will be going to be

to turn out in the vision of a wall a new Anneson, a new Victor, Zeyaldo.

Sequence of victories. Sequence is a second for a long time a time a more.

It's obvious that, you know, the Anderson and the Victor and the Aldo,

the The Aldo, the Anderson, is a, a part of the market. They were good, and then they were very very well,

say they were very well, say, conversable very well, david, were good interviews, were very good, the Anderson,

is like, the Anderson is a genus, a genus, a general, under the sport, you're in, the octagon, Anderson,

so, this does much, and it's really, it's a mediatic, he was, either, he was,

the audio, the Aldo, was a guy, was a man, a man, that was, Fenton Fentner, until there was

that derrota to MacGregory he was, he was a manseedor nato, you know, and it's

so, many victories in so I think it's a lot that we're going to be and can't get there

quite a time in the apse, some two, three victories, because it's the media

and the cause of, I don't know, I don't see, I don't see retro-alimented this culture

that is the Brazilian so goes to victory or the media just will give attention

to when the vitories when the time. So it's a cycle viciousos that's a problem but

not there's much more we're going to this automomom the moment. Because for example, imagine,

Charles, conquist the chintu-o, a lot of a lot really, a lot of a lot of

a narrative very good. Close he was, he was, he was there, he was

a second fight, put, he woncee to do you know, and then the first

when the first he came to he can't paint on fantastic,

you know, it's me of this. I'm using this metaphor of the global because I think even, I think it's not a global

says much about what's the media and the time of the things. But I think that's what we need to

we need to and we needia training also. So, the Charles really really so if you

start to look at the beginning of the career, as he said, I, I saw him I saw,

I, I saw, I, I saw, I, I saw, I, he was,

and he's, and he It's always that he, no, if you start to look at the time, it was a start to look at least, it was an beginning, it was an early, but in fact, I think, I think,

derotas, did very well, in the middle of the career of his career, like, I think, to say, I'm crazy, the character, the Brazilian of the

moment. But if you look, he'd say, no, I'm the person who is the UFC want to put to me, I'm not here to choose an adversary.

This papo of Brazilian, two things that I think I think ferra much Brazilian. that this

pap of I don't choose adversary, I'm I'm in my own I'm in who's a

person was there was a lot because I didn't feel and I'm they don't conversal with

anyone I think in a sport for you maintain up important as a important as

results is the narrative that you I'm not talking to I'm not talking to say I'm

don't talk to say a Chelsone is a example of the maximum of how well,

you can be able to pass some barriers that he even assumed but I think the showsonnet should be like the guy to be the guy to be

a second. I think he was a lotator very very really, so, I'm not,

I'm not I'm exaggerating but he was limited he was medium limited but he was able to he had used

the way he needed to say he was surreal that he He's not only with John Jones in a dispute of a centuron of a bit of a bit of a lot. Exactly.

It's a new loco, like, that's a new guy, he's a little bit more than the corner, I think he passed, surpassed more the lines that the Sonnen, and,

and, depending or not, Connor, maybe he's pretty in the personage. There's many things involved, but Connor also, you know, was a guy very good,

but if you look, the Americans, they have this base, of, do, do Pid, Luta,

of Trash Talk, good, talk, and the Brazilian, no, always had a culture of art martial, you know, to respect to the adversary. So, for you see in this culture, you need to be very, very good, you know, if you can't

meddle these two sides, you need to guarantee one of them. Then, let's see, the odds, you can't be much time in a porrata, and the showson, this guarantee, a much time in the fall, but I think it's a sequence of victories

and create a boorrah narrative. I think the Glover has this potential, for example. For more that he still has, even has a lot of this question, to be humildon, his car, he has a story very good. This thing of he'd have

been to have been to have gone to have passed a bunch of perennie, had to have been a sturted, had been a trajectory, and I think he has this potential. He is a little more

a little, a bit more, more, I'm very more than the potential, but I think it's this, I think it's sequenced of vitory and have nocees

to have a newfound to be a better, create a narrative better. I would you ask you to talk about the global,

I'd be there to ask, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's like the movie and series are to your day-a

but you're in a question, a question, really difficult, because 99% of the movies of the M.A. are a porcary,

yeah? But, I'm really, I love much, of Warrior, you know? Yeah,

it's a legal, it's, for this I don't say I'm all right, because there's one here

that we can say that we're can't you don't know I think I'm doing the film

of Zaldo, of the really, so I think it's a question, too, I think,

I had a notion, I had a lot of, I'm really, so, films of movies,

in general, are new in movies, movies, box, are marvell, movies of box,

and rock, is a great, but the films that had been made to be made

to be really really risive like, like Warrior okay but I thought I used to do something I thought of the article I thought he was good

I thought he been made so I actually I'm a mega recommend so for the people that I'm saying Ah, you know you can't see it's nice

it's cool yeah we're in a fight week of Gover Tcheera that the story of his enderio a film very good also that other that other story

you think that should I'd be counted in the cinemas I I think the Charles because Charles, willing or not,

is this. He has this question of having said the St. The St. The Stasas, I don't remember

about exactly of any of the Guarujah, not exactly, Guarroja, these, these, altos and back to the

very difficult he, he's got very new, in 19, 20 years, a thing, a lot of,

a lot of, a lotcour, so, he was, a, he's, so, and it's

difficult is the lotator to maintain so much with some some cases of the

end up and then I think the story in the where he came to the origin

it would be very interesting the brothers Marajol I also I also

I'm a put a thing that would represent a Luta Marajua that is a new

a little very very little little all all the Jujits Brazilian

but put to to all the Brazilian, I think it would be very good like,

and the proper Anderson, I think the we're still going to be the end of the story of Anderson not will be

probably probably those the best of the final of the career of Anderson after the after the

end of the thing, it's to cut the question because he had to be one of the major

athletes re-rembrated of the most times and will have always this amackul there

in the career. Karendenna, I think he's trying to do a little now in this career in the box.

I think interesting, at least there's some questions, but I think it is a way so he's a rivales

that don't have 60 years or more, I think he can't have a final of career in the

fight in I think I think there's very good, put, that'd be that's been

really nice to tell, you know, you know, you know, you know, a story that's like,

about, like, to tell, when, when, was, that's, post the

brothers, the fritita had been told me, involving, I had, that's, you know,

to talk this story of these three, like, and to show, how the W.C. Cresce

in the time of basically, it was, basically, it would be very great,

that's a lot of, that's a thing, the world, the, this, poor,

this, this, p, would, this, would, the, No, the

Tominotaur, I think I don't say because it's a very unanimity, you know, it's a little right,

right, exactly, but let's say, but we're about the but we're for this we're here,

in the last night, we've had the lute before the UFC against the March Vettory,

and it was a confusion even before the lot of my impression is that

he's that he was the question of the question of not quix about 85 K'clock

K'clock, and in the end in a an accord for a pome a peser of an 188,

and then it was in 93, even, subed a category entire. What do you

think you think you actually of this trita totally and vending of the

I think he's much about what the Borrachin actually the he is and not necessarily

what he is in the FC I think he, the Valid puttow he's very

he's much he's more than he he really he is a good of he's a good

he, I think he He's, of fact, he is much more what he can be, he's put on the other than he says, he pulled some of the steps. He crec-sue, the head. And I think he

did the lute, there was a luteau, that he took a surrah very gonguosal. Talves some of the worst of the stinturon that I have seen

see, I can't remember someone who had passed a verygoy, and he not re-encontroed there,

I think there's the question of COVID, also, we've got to be a deatia. But I think that Borrachina me seems a person difficult to negotiate. The Dana White said this, I read that, that the Dan White said

said it was a inferno of a month, but he was he took away. But I think he, he needed this derota to be put down in a place to him, you know? Because he is this, he, supposedly,

in the head of what he said, the derrota Conto Adesania, was a little, ah, a trece, there was a story that he

had been a night of a lot of story in the lot of story that's already, we've seen as this in the

story. And then I think it was a shock of reality this lot about the battle,

he's a new, he can't he's new, he has been he has a time for this, he has been a pass

after and understand the situation of his where he is the question is that now the

to go to jogging him no tank of the tubarons because a thing okay, he has a

time of a major but he's a lot of you're not you're not so I think I'm

I want to want to see how he will be he will be he's

he's he's not he's but if we know we know that's we're

difficult to do the Dana White when he when he when he when he

said when he can't it's to he to he to, to him

to, just remember that the Charles would be in a point, yeah, he was a poor,

I remember much, the guy, that's, the guy, the guy, the guy, the guy, the guy,

the guy, he's, he was a man, he had a courage, you know, he,

not that or, to, or muded of a good, and it got in nothing,

in nothing, no, not, not, he, he's, not, not being

the champion of the of the FC. I think the Borracheen, he needs to have this shock of reality in his career if he wanted to fight a lot in the sea, I had, I don't expect a lot I didn't know, I didn't know, because

we didn't see nothing of camped there, no post-n-n't-n't-posted another, never, of training, like he did in the Lutonterior, various videos on YouTube, showing the training, showing everything, and the posture of his fight week and me left with a foot back, and he left, like, what I was planning this,

man? The guy, apparently, we don't, apparently, you don't know, what kind of performance I I can't expect of him but in the when the other came to the performance was good

he was good he was but it's not so too much it could have been so yeah

it's it is very the basic if the guy not he's not he's a

kind of it's very it's much it's it's very it's very symptomatic of what

how probably probably will be the actuation of the octagon And the Burrachin is turned a guy

popular in Brazil along the career in the UFC he's great greats, various knockouts and it's a guy that's

a man from the octagon he also was a presence for the bad, for him,

to him, he always he always he's on the social as he was saying about

about about being very many times were postages lamentable

about about many this and this postura he ended putting him

in a place that many people via, for example, guard these divisions proportions,

like a like Floddmeau Edia, a thing that you want to see, because you want, that you

want to the MMA you can't do you want to the TV, you will because you

want to see the guy to lose, you, posture of his with relation to the position of the position. It can't

complicate. He's not another rest of the contract. He wants renegotiate. He can end up the

contract to sign a new with values more high. I don't see how this really

actually not not a hour of negotiation when you have a postura this. How is you

see the Mr. Paul Borrachina in this mix of talent in the octogono

but this postura controversial polarizant the packote complete that is the

burrachin. It's interesting. I think when you have a posture polarisant you need to

be in your work in the case of his is a lot of he's he's he's

he's he's he's he's if he had been a person a person

more more ponderate than a risk in relation the negotiation with

the UFC with a conversation with Donald White. What is it. There was a lot craos for to mark this lot of the military,

that you want to that's, if you're a lot principal, me pay in with a little bit more the fight in the lot was adiated.

So, it's that if you is a kind of polarisant or you're a kind of a difficult that you

need to in an octagon. Or so he proper, and the valid, like a person,

you know, he's got in a position of the right because the question is, what

what the what what is, looking this pack-upon-the-catchenia did he pass on the last month. If he perjury the

future, what you do you know, what the UFC will do you know, what the UFC and Don White is like 80% the chance of him

be demitied. It's just, he's doing a post, he's doing a truce with a proper career. And in a

situation very very complicated that he basically is being basically is being forced to to look to a

middle against a middle against a kind of so it's he's

he's put in this situation. So he has two options. Or he will be used to these conversations of their ownudity, do some work of BAD, like the people of the FEC, to say, oh, desksc, and all,

to him give a lique. But if he, maintaining this posture of his actual, like, it's just, he needs to wince, if he wants to continue on the UFC,

or then he will be a fairer or no Belaire. There's a secret. If he perished, he will end up the contract, coming to three derotas. The performance

of a victory was, was good, but it was a performance to the Descani. It was very very bad. Any one

no one of course did any one had a country of the wine, stories of a lot of a lot of the result of

the result of so that's being accompanied to be accompanied of something that's certainly the people are in

water, not want to know, you know, don't have been no longer and then let's see

how he will look to with this next time to see a career to see a carrerever

or you will be in other place in other place. Convinem, there's a market

for the barhamit is a bad, but we're doing the more, if he's

going to be able to the market, but if he's going to gain this event, especially you who's that's in this time,

especially you who's been in this day, that's a much very more more. I've been been it

has been a monopoly hardcore but but I'm not, it's not a

way to be more than there's there's a better I'm I'm very honest,

very okay of okay to okay to be the BFL there's a a

guy that if he's a level Connemick or John Jones of a

lot of a lot of so it's so it's obviously that the FN

is the Cubs the our friend valid, but but it's it's difficult. I think he's

a general good. I think the resume, the the result, the result is that. And talking in other markets,

other events, on the Saturday we've never, we've never, the return of Fedra Melianco, no, I confess that the

moment of the end of the second last year, me left with a time, because the Johnson,

despite not not being nothing of the major, it was a category to Pesororor I imagine he could have

been able to have confronted a cigano an over-inke if it was to get to be a for a lenda like he but the gauding

he's like he's like a a different or a bar ch'n it's like a little bit more with the call the rhabb

what you know what you think of this performance of him you know I got what I like I guess

that I'm that I think whether or not he had been he had there he had that he had that he had

a lot of three-outes-segued, but, but, given or not, the way to he sobe to do, he's got, the clueled

the clueled the clout the guy even was a really really, like, so, not was a

guy that he could do that he could do that the power, you know, the other,

in those times, he, he, he per , by the Midmetrione,

okay, Mattimitrione much more new, and he, and he He then He was then

for Ryan Bader also, okay, much more new, it was a final of the GP of the and the

things, it's true. But if you look at all the last victories that's the last time,

it's a good genisement of career because we are we talking to do that we know that

I think the Fedor so he knew very very well, these last these last

his last last he said, you he said he said he said he said exactly what

what are what are the what are I admire I think I think admirable how he sobe to make good

looks, to choose well those adversaries in the last after all the enormous frustration that was he never had

been to have seen with the first of this talk of this talk of this last year, he, was he'd

understand that could be this last but would be able to that would do more that would

end up so, so it just it just to wait to expect how would

be the perhaps it could do. If you were the responsible for gerenciar the career of his, you would end up a performance this in house, like, how I think the Minotadoe had to be able to

bring to Brennan Schaubb in the Rio, you know-and, you, a rusea, a knockout, rapid, stasio, all the statured, all right, or sticcure a penceposed, not, because the al-lun was the champion of the Belator now, but, maybe a revenge with Bader. I, like, I think

being pragmatic is the it's the it's the it's the it's it's a

thing you know it's a gnarre chieo the luta principal the the people

people are the problem is the problem is the thing the thing is this

thing is this guys would be a a big a box

for him for it is 45 years yeah it's it's

strange it is very it it's difficult so

this balance, if he if he were pragmatic, to think simply the narrative that he construed in the career of his, this is the lot of final perfect. It's not a good. The next theme here of our bat-papa is

possibility of a lot of the we can't have a lotteria, confronting the Natey-Dia in the FC, but first, we'll listen to the brok, of his own, the proper interview that I did with Vincent and Luke. You know, in what, pet, this novel at all. The interview with Luke, comes to just as a

rapid interval commercial. The other side of the line we have we're we're in the way

and the middle of the family of Brazilian, and father of Chinese, and born in Brazil, the

guy is practically the personification of the honor here. All right, me, me, me, me.

Beleza, all right. All right, all the kind of different places, how is

the Brazil has been the world with a big, with a life. I'm in

a business when I was a man is my mom is Brazil when I had more six to seven

years, I came with her to Brazil, and since then, Brazil is my house, I'm a new my wife

and my wife and my son was here, so it's going to really, it's the that I represent

in the FC, I enter with a brande with a great, for me, not just

the question of the I think that's part to be a Brazilian, even I not having

not been I'm not very Brazilian my mom is a Brazilian so I have a part of me

Brazilian my father is Chilean so I'm this metade Chileana but I

have my roots here in Brazil always always I don't see me

this this this want to represent the world to put

the most possible there in the part of British you

part of the part of the United you you don't consider I No, I consider it

also, I'd say, I'm I'm born in the States and I'm also am American for this reason. My family, she's,

half really totally Chilean and the other half of all the part of the American of my family

directly, so I think, I think, so it's in it's, I'm, I'm, I'm a family

there in Nova Jess, my father I have I have two, the primos there are there are

there are there's people who are there are a little where I have a

realises I have I'm I'm a lot but it different the Brazil

for me is my house is where I I'm where I'm I'm I'm

to learn to learn to do my my two of my last the UFC

were made in Brazil so I think it is different for me when we

when we talk to Brazil really is where I'm in the place that I want represent to represent there. You think your life would have taken

if you had been in Nova Jersey? I see that your mom is Karateka so she has had this participation in the arts martial but

you just was, like you said, it was just went to do not in the arts massia

when I came to Brazil in Brazil in Brazil yeah. With with certainly I think

would be very different I don't don't know I don't know how to imagine how it would but the Karate was something I liked when I

started to do because of my mom but after a time I don't see, I didn't know, I lost a grace for me so with, more or less than 10 to 11 years of age, I started to train a karate. I trained various other sports and with 15 years, it was when I went to the arts martial, I

chose Muay Thai to train and this was totally for much influence of the I had some friends who were training the Muay Thai. I had seen a lot of MMI and I was seeing the Shogun, the Vandeleysilva

that came to Muay Thai. So, then, really, that I started to train and came the want to go to MMA. So I think that without this, maybe not would be a mutator, so if I don't

have been to Brazil, I think that maybe I was a lotator. You came to, you were a, you were a child, 14 years, 15 years, you were, you was you were encamying

to some other destino in the before you had a time? You had other dream in your life in that time? Nothing, I didn't have

idea of what I would do you do. I was very new, so I was, I, I, had studied, I'd study,

I'd, would, see the way, more traditional, let's say, to terminate school,

trying to try to a faculty good, to choose, some profession to see, but I

didn't idea no idea no really not imagine what I would be in

when I'm gonna try to my tai, I went to after six months of my first myritae

I've I'm still I don't know something the adrenaline the love the emotion

there in the moment that that that's that I did a that I was after this

first then I no more I just I'm wanted to be a how you

reacted when you when you entered in the world of the MMA that you had made a carate for because of it

and the obviously there's a lot of people there's a idea, but the style of carate philosophy is

much more with an self-control and of peace than this way more violent of the MMA

yeah yeah I think even the competition there still, the Kiyokuchin

is a style that has a lot but in general the competition of carat

it preza more the so not there no contact and the MMA

is the contrary to this, I think the form of the fight that more we really

use all the thing is what is the way in the rules. She always me

supported, she always me incentived about about the important to be

there a other option so, how I started to train with 15

years, I started to live with 17 years professionally the M.A. She

always said to me I didn't go in the school, I don't put it

to side, so she had this side that she was she was to keep

not so to go to the lot, but she a little of the I think

she was she was the risk, was could be a loss, she

she was a little preoccupied until today it when I go

when I will have that there a problem of

something would to happen but I think in general she always me support very and

it's a lot like she's she's not she's like she can't understand what's happening so she's

she did some advice that she didn't not, you know not even this car does this this guy does

a while you did a lot in the you made well you she made well she made

so in sparring it it's quite all sparring she

and both my my mom and my my wife and my my mom, various times

say some things that I don't have never seen, and then then I'm doing it's a

really, it's true, I'm sure, I don't think my my mom is doing a instruction here

and it's done certain. So I love what she she says, I never say to her that did

certain, because if she she'll start so I don't, I'll

make in secret. She, she will do you do what she said, I don't

let her feel her much confiant in what she's not she'll will think that will

think it will be my trainer you're going to be able in a second no, no,

I'm in not, for me it's very difficult it, so, even when Mike Perry,

for example, left her a name of it's a thing I think I would be

different, family, I think me make a little nervous, me

would be never over, so I prefer to her there's there's in

the partyia, and, tortino, and let's the little bit to the trainers to get in that

mind focused on the lot of the little to be kind of me disanciar to all the world that I

conviv, let's say, more in family so, so for me would be difficult, I think

that would be a lot of swing local, like she when she when she in the arena

is a time for it's is a time, it's I'm so I'm I'm

I think in 80% of my Lutas, she was, in the initial before the FCLA-in, in all, both, both her, and her,

and my wife, are going, so, for me, it's very my dad, he's a

United, but always it's, but it's a majority of the United, he's,

he's, he's, he's going to see, so it so it's, for me, it's,

to be able, we're in public, it's, but, but you're a corner, it's different.

You're a guy who did a career in the Brazil, the most part of the Luzai

in the district federal, uh, before to go to Duf, to go to F.C. And the

career, is a, a contrast great of what is in FECC, now, today,

you know, was a phase voeing, with, with a great, with a

course, in the beginning, you, it was, a problem, how it was,

was a mom in this case, that she had a she had always, she

had a time, she'd, she reactia, via you, like, you're doing a derot here, tropezzing, how she was dealing with this, doing the arm of the ear, doing the

counsel? I think she always was always me give advice, like, vising the new not just as a lotator, but as a person, as a man, too. So, so,

when I had a derot, she was, she'd me do, make, to look, the errors, see what I could to better and

understand that not to say culpano oh no, it was for because I don't batte the

piece of bad, I'm did a choice she said, she said, she would

that I would have to look a lot, I'm, I'm, I'm vacilley, but if I

had been done it, I'd have gone she, she, I'd that I

would be the responsibility that the person, and I think that's, important for me and for my career, especially in the moment that I entered in the UFC,

because I straighted with a derota. And even streying with a derrota, I was able to grow, I could evolve very, exactly for to see the detrotas with another look, not an eye,

I don't know how much, but with an eye, I committed errors, but I can betterer. I can be torn down a loter better with these errors, and is what I've been

doing in my career. evolution is visible you can go along these years since 2015 when it was the final of the end of

the crowd show many people was coming of good victories finalized the Michael Keezza in the last

last year finalized the Tyon Urd in the last year and now are miring there

but there battles many against against against before you before you

first you first you put this pap then he He came a time after he was on Twitter posted the

video, and he gave interest, he went out, he went to and he posted about him and he putt

this novel we'll see and then he will see in front of the Octogar? So, for me, it will

rollar. I think I'm at training with this mentality I'm going to be ready to be

ready to the last UFC that the last FC that he said the Dana White said about about Nate Diaz,

said that they're that they're looking a lot to him and that they're not thinking on Ferguson. So I

think in the hope that maybe starting thinking in being. But, I think

in this moment I don't have any response of the UFC. I've I said my

company, my company said my company's just the UFC know that I'm interested

I'm in this the lute perhaps also, he's also said in Twitter

that he said, So, so, for me, it's just to be the date, that I'm just, I'm trying, I'm just trying to,

I'm going to be prepared, and, like, for me, in this moment, I think I need to do many different

lots, I think I know a sequence good, I'm a position very good in a ranking, I think

that maybe still still maybe even fall to something, to I can't this dispute,

and guarantee the dispute of Cintonon, We have a Leon Edwards, that's a in a sequence very good if you look

in a point of view, I think he merit is in the next dispute of the So I need to make a

thing to to move the idea of the FC, to see that not, Vicente we're going

pull him in front. And I think more a lot would be this maybe

guarantee the, I could guarantee the dispute of the situation.

And looking so, the Lion is marked with Masvidal. So this

one of those two I could be able to try to with the Camaro now. Durin, we know,

I don't do, I don't look with him and he doesn't no, no,

no longer, there in a lot, I think Nate would be a name, and the

story that he's been in FC, is a man that would be to be

to be to be to be to be the signoral. So I look more for this

reason. I want to make more a lot to me maintain

active and to that's disbult of the centurion. Interesting that the

leader is a lot of not a lot but many people people talk that's a lot in the final like the

net and yes the first of victory of the round, he balanced the lionedas but in Portuguese,

he was burrow jonted up up to come to provoke in that times to end up to end up

to end up and it's also came to show on the news, who's seeing this

movement of the two of the five rounds even since Cicenture, and even Cessing Meevent. You even double the post there, brought 10 rounds for him,

to see, who knows, this, the motivator, Nate and Diaz, to pick this lot, yeah? Yeah, and, so, when I post this, I'm saying,

seriously, I would be a loter, I'd rather the challenge. So, I never lute in five rounds, but if I had to start to be a 10 rounds,

it would be better even, I think would be a different than other guys, that I know that I say, So, so, the Nate is a

guy that has a lot that's a lot, the more longa the lot more is the lot more it's the guy perfect to me test

to know if I can't the 10 rounds so I'd want to I'd like the I'm really,

I'm not the reason that I love this sport for I'm this sport for this I chose this for my life

so I don't want to look fast I don't want to look at my zone of

comfort I want to I want the I want the the I think that Nate is a

a guy that in this moment would be a great fight. You see the Control Leon Edwards. I think the

Lion domined very well that's really really got a lot of the final. So it's a guy that we

see that can't say this guy is just got to he still he still still has

many danger in the most part so I think it's a lot interesting. You're

saying that's always going to go back to And he, peddino,

to confront him a little bit, because not that he is at the last he's at the last but he's a guy who's looking at the

stars, for a cona magrego, more Vival, the guys who vending much payper-view, that not is the patamac

that you've still still in the team, but he was there to he was that the guy

that's that the guy who you think he's what you're what he's what he's looking at

because the last the last the last the last month we're trying to turn to

free agents to negotiate a a quarter with a lot of UFC or who can't go to go to work

or go to other event what you're thinking he's he's going to you're going to you know something

are totally opposite you know you're a top five of the middle and and then Tony Ferguson is

doing to very devos yeah I think I think the the principal focus of

he now he's I believe he wants he can he can he can he can

exactly exactly you say you're to be free agent so

So I think that in the when he wanted he wanted to I think it was a lot interesting for many reasons.

It's one we're going to make a loton this is a fact, so it can't

it will be going to be a war, it's a war, it's a war,

I go to the he's back into, and in the case of no, no,

no, no, no, no person, he may be, me vencending,

I think he could could be would be very well in the category, maybe even depending,

pull on the face of the Edwards and and to look for the signer if he would be so he was

looking at this look at the last last a man, it's a guy that can be to be

me alvancar, we'll post that this look in this fight and how the FC

not said not not, not, not, not, not, no,

not, no, no, no, I think he went the, let me

let me, let's, let's, I think he's in this agony to look at, there's a time that he

no lute, so I think he's in this to really to really do the other than if it's a

good for him, how I imagine that the would be a lot of it's a risk,

but there's a benefit. If he gain, it will be a great benefit that he will

be able be alavancated and he's not not getting a lot with me I think he

is to a guy to a person, he is a guy that makes

much the attention of the public. It's a lot where I think the fans

have been the most possibility of a lot competitive, because the two are being

to be in the the result, so I think it's a lot maybe more just

and with more chances of Nate to gain in the vision of the public. So I

think it's more for this. He wants to do the last the

the future the the UFC will how you

know the The officey, now, there is Usman and the Colby, that will be fronter. Then, then the Durin, and the Edwards, the Durin, who you know, who you're going to confront, the Lionel, is with a lot marked with a madal. If not roll out, Nate, what you do?

You sit and see, some vancedor of some of these casements of the lute, or some sort of, maybe, of the stuntlet, or, who can't be to be the event of New York? We know, in times of COVID, and all of all, people can't happen the hour, you'd be

ready to substitute? What you do? What you do do you do do this? I think the Lutal and the Colby will say much, I think who can gain,

we'll be able to know how the division will be get. If the Colby gain, I think we'll make a third lot, because will be

one-a-one, so will need to this third one, and then really will do a freeada great in the

division. If the Camaro Ganyar, I think that there's a chance a small, but there's a chance to be able to pull out in front of Edwards, depending on how to happen to happen to

see the last year. So, I think in a moment, what I'm doing, I'm maintaining training, I I adore to be ready for some opportunity, so if Pinted to until in November,

if it's going to be going to be able to be able to do, I'm trying to this, I'll be training for this, if if I'm something in December, I'm trying

with this mentality also, now I'm going to be me maintain and I'm going to be

the lot of the Camara and the Pove I think after this we'll get a lot more more

how the division will be and the battle with Edwards also is a lot of important.

A lot of a lot for this will be just in December, but I think it's

a lot that will make sure much much the athletes, amos,

friends of training, but they're in the same division, that the destiny kind of put

the two in a rott to do the U.S. and the other at the F.C. in the

case of the sameelian, but you and Durin is different? How you D'Rin is different,

there's no possibility of this other thing, or if a person were a champion, or another

in filererer in the V. We're like, we're going to get to put out

to the title. There's a scenario where would be possible What happens to

for the other? For us, for us, for our amazade value more than what kind of offer. The UFC, or what is the opportunity we have? So we don't care to lose this relation that we have, which is much more than a family, it's a good one, a and I, we, we we want that the two are the two

are the two are the not the under the sign of the we're doing, we're doing a way,

we're going to be a champion. So, I don't explain, but it's like if he not is in

my front, and I don't know in the way of the other. We're we're just

the two, we one I help the other to get to the more out, that's

the day that he was the day that he I have certain that he will continue me helping to be champion and the day that I was a champion, I will

do the same for him. So I think that's a little different. Maybe nobody, even today in the UFC, had a misage so strong as far as far as a train.

We have a relation very strong, too, also, our families also have a relation very good, so it's a scenario where really don't see how this could happen.

A change of division is a option in your future for 8-4 For 70 It's a lot of It's a position It's a possibility

of a Dundance of division I don't know the moment But I have A long time Maybe I'll look

in a category different In this moment I'm focused on the Pays of Meal Medio is what I

always I've always I've done my career in this PIS But with the

years with the age, our our body will be moving. So, today I'm going to I'm going to I'm going to stay with 17 years.

So I think it's something for all the human, all the lot of M.M.A. With time, it's going

being pushed to the port of the weight. Not is the case. Today I still can't

be able to get the piece very. So in future, maybe be a thing that

can't happen. And, if, if get a a moment where I I'm with the

is the trinoron. or the d'urin is with the triton. We need to do nothurt, but in off, without a camp, but, yeah, not not after the last time, I'm not going to train in a rhythm good, I'm going to be in a hit in a good. I'm going to be in 80, 90, so it's more of the

less that I I'm going to today. Today you'll start with the

first of the year to know that's not a time you need to get to 77

in this need to need to need to I need I can't two, three seven

I can so I did this other times when I bathe the post

to the UFC 2005 this was now I don't remember when

was but I was with 89 kilos and was

I bat the I was a great victory. So, so, if needed two or three seminars, I can't. But the ideal, I really, I

like to have camp to be four or six months is the camp perfect. A little more than it's a more than four, six months is a

good camp. So if you had some time to do you to substitute someone in New York, it would be to be

for now. Yeah, I'm, I, I'm going to maintain prepared. If could be, me

if you're in the time, I do a way I'm sorry I'd like to thank you for grab

with a guy for the podcast and I'm that's like a lot of night and good news and much

success for you and for you know when you want to you need to be in a party to

get to be a middle to go to the top of the very much thank you we're

we're we're going and we continue and other categories too we're

we're we're To go back with George Corrie now, after we've seen, I want to know to you, my friend,

my friend, my friend, or Nate and Diaz is a malucco to make sure to make sure any reason logic about

your return on the FCC? I think the I think the luck did a sort if this this is a

lot of a lot of last, it's the famous the first, it's a lot of

mediaatica would be that would be that and the most legal of this is that

is with a guy who has a bad name, he's a great a lot of but he's

in final a career now, so are enormous the chances of Vincente Looke

does show in a lot of this because it's it is it is it we know

he's a he's a he's probably he's probably he will probably he probably he

probably to try to work with he's he's very good this guy

he's the career of his He picked the guys very good, so I was always always made the two last two last

Luton Woodley, Tyrone Woodley, well, the last one his last year for Steve and Thompson, this is that he did the stout

the centurion, so I think it's a sort great, if this battle was a lot of he, he gave a

sort of because he will have a holofort against a guy that we can we can't

say, that is an an adversary fast if you compare the situation of the

situation of the career of each one of the two. So I think we'll try that. And it's a lot

that I'd like would be a lot of a lot of people who will be able to see a lot of people who did you see many people and there's many

people who have seen any chance of the FC mark this lot and I'll see the same situation. Vincentiluk that is top

five of FCC but he not have the name he not is a he not a grego or not a madal so I imagine

he was gonna imagine he's dispensing the chance to defy a chance to try to the name

of Nate Diaz in that not to be to roll, but, Portsy days ended uproreding a minute after this. Much the time after he posted a video on Twitter,

of Vincent Luke, talking about it, it seems like it, it's like, it's like, it's been, like, as you said, but, you know,

but, is, it doesn't, the impetus of someone, that will get with a lot of their opportunity of their, to

make the name of his United like the United like, who, who said, the President Luke not is the Lionelaners,

yeah, the Lionelaz, enfented the Ney Diaz, and did that little a lot point-uant-hounds. Vincent Luke,

who doesn't not look like he's going to to be a matter. So I think will be a lot that would

have a risk much high for Nate Diaz, maybe the fight for him in the last years in the

Fcena. Yes, yeah, it's it's the risks involved, he has more to

get to gain. If he if he pergner, he will be this, he will

make much more like the segment of the career than necessarily but it

It's, it's difficult, this decision. If he wins, everyone's expecting that's going to wince, but if he gets it, it's a tragedy

gigante, even for the sequence of him in the cartel of his. But it's that he has to take this

fight, because it's not have to be a lot of what the Dara White, what the FC will have to do it,

because the NITJ is in a position that just only a question, the only the options

to gain money, maybe the maybe the better, they're are out of the FC, imagine the NITIG, and go to

imagine, you know, he's going to get a lot of a lot of compared to the other than the he gained in the other than

he's going to get to the hockey. Jake Paul, you know that I'll hear a name very very strong.

So, is he would be going to get to be to the RECD he's, he made the tone after after

after he's, he's, he's probably, he's going to Viscence-Luk, top 5, of the M.E.

A. Tomi-C., a team interino, Learie, clear, a guy very good,

but he's going to see in the performance very good, so, not to understand what

what the what will happen to imagine what what will be to happen to look, getting the

of a guy of a guy, he'd be able to a stutory he, he's,

he got to the nett Dias, he will be going to meetal in December, and it's going to

be a sequence of victories much great, but the victory the Vennelela

and about Nate and Dijs, not so impressive than maybe maybe, you know, maybe he's going to make

to see him to see a 22 Vincent Look disputing the centroal and and bringing to him to Brazil? Yes,

I think it's it's this, it's this category is a little, I don't not say, I don't want to

be a bottom of the tops of the category, but it's a topes are not

not, not much a top in much at the front of the other,

the top five, the top 10 of the category. So I think it's So if there a moment for Vincent Luke

to appreciate is this and we think we need we need we need to we need to appreciate

this moments yeah I'm what happened with Charles I don't I don't I'm

I'm sorry I'm saying putt's oh Charles did not have not the cabib

there but he but but it but it but it's it can be this situation

of Vincent Luke Luke we need we need also to try to have to

the people need to understand where we we've got these, this, this,

this situations very, both, panorama, good, he's got to what Charles

did, who, who, who, who, who, who, it's,

caring or not, when there, it's, it's very difficult, it, it's very difficult,

when you have some , you can't, you know, you know, can be to be

or how was the GSP, how was the Anderson, how was the Aldo, it's a durer, imagine, you see a top 10, but at the same time you're top 5, you're top 5,

but the top is so the top is very distant, so, are moments very complicated, and now, puss, I think,

now the FCC is in a moment more easy, so, for a top 5 for a guy to have this for a

move, this, this point of the end of this fatamara even? Ah, no,

I think, no, I think it is that. But Luke, Champion, Nate Diaz, is a pop to other resume. We have to giveover

the George for your life, a man, a man, me, I'm really, for, for,

for the presence here in this eighth edition of our podcast. Tell us to the career, how are you can't

to be able to your work, to be more specialists also in the art, the seventh

art, yeah, we're doing with the first of the first time, you're in It's the

No, so, I'm just a editor-chefe of O'Millette, that's the first site of culture nerd and culture geek of Brazil. I should be the first, I'd shuddery with more than 20 years when it was all the Mato. And who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who was, who, who was, who was, a movie, more than, the leitters, the O'Melette, has, like, people. that access to O'Melette, because can be what O'Melette

can know of the film. And I came here to make a remontage, because, like, the year of 2020, not was easy for basically

in any of the great vehicle. Now, imagine for an entertainment, that, an intertenement, that,

no, he never had to be to be entertainment, no time, and you started to start to think, but there was not having a

film, no, there was a lot, so I came to adder and to get this people, to get this person, to put them,

let's, let's, let's do new, we're going to get a, let's see jump,

and go back to do that did the work as well, I think I'm very well succeeded in this. I still

I still think, I'm still I'm still because I'm much more more than I'm very happy to

have taken in the people of those people so talented that I have here I'm here

I'm here I'm sure that I'm getting now that's so it's about films, series,

HKs, mangars, anime, we'll access to omelette.com.com. B.R., that I guarantee that there's a lot more great, a pleasure to be you here with me.

A pleasure, of course, to accompany to an an friend of the podcast to talk to Frank that's all the air every week, on Spotify, iTunes, Google, podcast, Apple Podcasts.

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