MMA Fighting - Trocação Franca | Wanderlei Silva oficializa aposentadoria e passa bastão para filho no MMA

Episode Date: August 31, 2022

Wanderlei Silva anuncia oficialmente sua aposentadoria do MMA no podcast Trocação Franca e se anima com a estreia do filho Thor Silva no esporte, em setembro. No episódio dessa semana, os Silvas se juntam ao técnico Cristiano Marcello em entrevistas ao podcast, comentando detalhes da preparação para o Fight Music Show em Curitiba. O Trocação Franca conversa, ainda, com Gabriel Fly, único representante brasileiro no UFC Paris. O melhor do MMA brasileiro no Trocação Franca, toda quarta-feira, com o jornalista Guilherme Cruz e convidados. Wanderlei Silva officially announces his retirement from MMA in an exclusive interview with Trocação Franca — and gets pumped up for his son’s debut in amateur MMA in September. “The Axe Murderer” and Thor Silva chat with the podcast, as well as Silva's head coach Cristiano Marcello, about the upcoming bout in Curitiba. This week's Fight Week segment also features an interview with Gabriel Miranda, who makes his octagon debut Saturday at UFC Paris. Listen to Trocação Franca with Guilherme Cruz every Wednesday to hear from the biggest names on the hottest topics in the Brazilian combat sports world. Follow Guilherme Cruz @Guicruzzz Subscribe: http://goo.gl/dYpsgH Check out our full video catalog: http://goo.gl/u8VvLi Visit our playlists: http://goo.gl/eFhsvM Like MMAF on Facebook: http://goo.gl/uhdg7Z Follow on Twitter: http://goo.gl/nOATUI Read More: http://www.mmafighting.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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We're listening to the Vox Media Podcast Network. Seniors and Seniors, in command of the podcast, Trocaation Franca, and representing the M.M.A. Fighting in Brazil, Guillermo! Hello, lo,

a movie of fun-de-luta, the podcast, Trocageant, a show-a-M-A, in this immense ball of the sphere. I'm going to bea-cruis, correspondent of the site American, M.8.4 in the Brazil, and I'm back on this quarter-fearing

the company of realese of sport. Ex-campion of the Prade, one of the major names of the Luda Worldial, Vandelei Silva does his first apparition here in a moment of Trocage of Guard, announcing officially the posthalue of M.A. As Vespaid of the start of the Philo, Thor Silva, in M.A. Amateur,

marked for the day 25thum on Fight Music Show in Curitiva. In episode of this week, I'll converses with Wanderlea, that revela, that has plans to lutar box, and the trainerator Christiano Marcelo, who is at front of the preparation of Tor to the Lota.

But, but before the interview with him, is justly with Tor Silva that's an adventure in MMA Amateur for the first time after after the game box in Coritiba

that we'll talk about. From the other side of the line now we have Tor Silva, the father of M.M.A.

Pella first of Maluas Mammata Amador in Fight Music who's in Curitiva. First, welcome to the podcast, a pleasure to talk

with you again to talk about after those clusts, the victories. How is the moose now with a MMA?

It's a M. M.M.A. It's amador, but it's a MMA, yeah, say in a porrida in all the areas. What's the head is in the expect to be the expectation for this lute? I'm feeling very confident in this

luta. I'm very sure now that I train at SEMSystem. These people are very good. We're training righty-in' I'm doing a lot, I'm doing a lot, I'm doing all the best of time, a lot. I'm doing

all the good, and I'm just feeling that I'm going to go out with a victory. you know, you will do you in what division of the

I will put up to you're gonna you're gonna your my own my own my own

my six and I will be able to I'll start to start a lot to start to get a much of and also

not much weight of so I think very very very and how is that experience

that you have that you've been in the lute of box that you this is train in M.A. I think that it helped me, especially that I had, yeah, my

experience more in my foot, but as now I'm going to move to play in M.A. I have to start to do make a shoo, start, to start to make a jitzo,

so now I'm feeling very often. Now, I entered in the Academy CEMSystem, they are very much more focused on the and I'm feeling very well for this

world. You've chose a CEMCIST for this. Because we know that in the academies, there's the evolution

Thai, that's the old I'm when he's in the last years, for the last he's

for the time for the speciality of his jiuhits so, so, and what you know what you

know of your game, he's he's not the show of he's still he's still some other

kind of I think he is more too too he's maybe, so he will either

try to try to try to try me to me to me to me to

try to or will I'd want to be in but I'm prepared for everything I'm prepared for me preparing much, I'm

doing everything doing everything trying to encach all in a just, in a prefection. The time, the style

in the MMA will be the same box, the lot of box, no, no,

the style of your style of your pay, to pour rhea, how is, how is the Tors-Siva

in MMA? No, it's, first I'll I'll see, I'll feel the guy, but also, I'm for a porrada, that I'm that I see better

but try to get some some, if there's some opportunity, get a one back a back the piscorce and then I'm

but we're focused more in the hand. You see some type of pressure for for being the father,

because the other adversary is a coadjuvante in this story, he could be substituted for any other person

because the attraction is your strain in the M.m. Amateur. This does some pressure in the same of you?

To have to correspond to the expectations to, porra, be the son of the Mande Mendeley in Cibro

to do M.A. There's a thing that's a thing good. I'm going to have always

have some opportunities many great. For example, now, with this lute, I'm

to look in, in the state of athletic. I think this is really

I want to thank you for this too but I think it's a good I don't think this a good thing negative I always will have a lot of good always have the adversaries, I'm always will have people involved in people in mind, so I think it's a good a good, a benefit.

The tendency is that your way to a great event, be very much more because you have the sub-nome-silvernery and so you're saying, well, if you're just training in M.A. has just two, three victories, the evento international you can't you can't be

because you are the son of Vandenenna, yeah? Yes, and there your father on the corner

there's side to the atlertic with all the experience that he has, this will bring calm for you,

it's just to to be a focus on the the luta, or you think you can contribute a little

more with this pressure in some to you want to you say that you can be

you can't add some more of looking to look to Bola and talk to my car in the pet. Yeah,

so, for me, I think a good thing really, that if I say I'm in real,

he gets more nervous than I. We always come in a little like, before the

event to start, yeah, he's always always always get a lot of things, I think

very nervous. And, car, when I go to I'm much more calm,

I don't I don't feel very nervous so, I'm more calm, but

in my thinking what I'm going to do. And, I don't think a thing negative, no. I think you

don't put any of the other party in some in some in a lot of his father of your

father were outside of Brazil, and you were very little even, you

were going to go to go to go to a last I remember I went

in in New York where he went to the room in that arena there.

in the Sony and also the homepage on those those two there imagine

that see that it's it makes to get with this thing if you

never had been you go to go out of paranian you

go look with a pancada per dezenes of people

say I'm man oh poor it's it's yeah

yeah but yeah but but I always see my father lot under the Pride

for the UFC for the events in the UFC also and I'm kind of I'm I'm used always since I

never seen I've seen always came and I'm like I'm used but I want to I'm going to

an most stard but I'm a lot but I'm very happy for this but

it's different because there you were accompanying your now, you're going to now, you're going to be a person who

will be a right, and the fact of being you prefer, you can't try to train more than

with a grade, because the fight-mids show, as I have been a rink,

it's a ring, and your father who did a story there for you for you

better ring or the garage? If I say, in real, I just

I've only one once in ring that was the last that was the

Mottai, that I did that I did a ring, no, not a ring, no, no, in Oktegon. And, and, I think, in the ring,

it's better, if I say, it's a real, that the , you can't, you can't, you can, you can, you,

can, but in ring, it has, a quadrado. If you let the guy to get in a can't,

then, it's, it's, it's more the time, the many, many of the professionals

of the men, What is your favorite? That's the one of the one of the one of the

one of the way of course to see. Ah, I'm trying I'm seeing until these days I've

re-vi that one the Rampage that's when he came to the ring also the

last he did in the UFC against the Brian Stan this

this lot my God proccation brutal one one would

get a man and also the he was the the Sakuaba also,

many luts, many and what's the plan of career? You're coming from devaluing, he did kick-box here, Moitai, box, now he's going to do the show

the idea is to do do some of a major before a professional or is just to see this first experience

and just a part to professional? I was thinking now it was this experience now, to do this

yeah, I'd like I'd like more on the down there, do some tournees

of Jill, do some of some more the box, not, to be making these

amateurs there, you can, you can, you can, see, you can, you can,

live in this, never doing armador. For example, the owner of the

Citoron now in the Charles, the Charles, Charles, Browns, you can,

you can see, as he's he's fiduced in the first, I'm a little new,

I'd have a little little bit more in a lot of making more to make more to make used to make a game, to mount all

and then to get to do that professional we know, we know, we're patience,

without trying to accelerate the things, the fans will want to want, you're going to

start out in the event but say, car, you know, the week the TOR, you know,

or then you're to rise, yeah, a new Pride. Imagine that's just I'm past with your head for your

head. Because you enter in a sport, because you want to be a because you want to be

the best out, you want to be the best so to be to the FC that is today the world, or maybe

for Rising for being the continuation of the Prade for that was the father and he took more success.

I, I like the FCC they're paid very very well but rising

also is very interesting, that I like I love to the regress of their that's if I'm a shoot

of metal that I also like this idea but I'm going to do you know I'm going to

do some make sure but if some of them say it's I'm saying I'm going to I'm here

I'm just I'm just I'm just just to just to finish how you wince the

first the first the fight music show how you think she'll think that it will

do you three rounds or you think you will start your adversary or else? I think that I will feel it in the beginning. If he was very aggressive, I think I will continue to leave him in the show I'm doing much of the floor

but I'm also I'm confident in my no foot. So, or will be of knockout or it's a mission. Maniro, Tocke, thank you very much

for your time and good sort in this round final of preparation and good luck my friend. Thank you. Thank you.

Now we'll start with Christiane Rhet Cochidtor and H.D.E.E.M.C.O. and man who graduated Wandae Silva, Fasha Preta of Jiu JITZ. From the other side of the line

now we have Christiane, Marcel, the leader of CMC, who received a mission to train at Tor, Sylva for this premiere in M.M.M.A. Amateur,

how are the things for there? After the after the Wandae. Silva for the LANDA. Now, train the son

to this new experience that's passing. First, it's a pleasure always, a honor to talk to you one of the

great reporters world-toes and to this great media of communication. Then I do you pass the pics

there's no degrees. Oh, it's a conversation not a conversation no. It's not.

It was, it's all all the MCS, there's thanks a God, either the

major teams of the world, with the athletes in all the events of the

world, excuse, the but we're, we're going to Bufa in the final of the NFL

we're there's I'm in the UFC doing the trajectory of him we're

many other athletes Victor Petrino going to contenders in brev in break

now to do you know various other athletes in all the events

so it's a work that is a continue here we're we're we're

for a career and to be is waiting the Cavalco, I'll see the last, and is

a lot of his own, and it's a little, I'm a man, you know, I have a

life of almost 11 years on the Wanderlay, and helping to him and write

the story of his was the legend that he is, and when I received

the convict for that the Tors did part of the team

and that I was the responsible this way of this community with all the

CEM System it was a great honor here is a continuation of a legado so he is autorgando

what was made to be to be to be made to be very very happy with this with this

mission there I'm I've I've I've been I'm I'm

of all the options of great academies in Curitiva the Wandelier, has entered in all,

because it's a a lenda, he's an attestate of quality of your work as a trainer.

No, for certain. Well, this is I received this way, the mission, and it

will be different. The Wandelie knows, the my methodology of the work,

how I work, the academy has my name, you know, C.M. C.M.C.

System Christian Marcelo. So, first of all, in relation

to the people understand how it and I'm I don't see the money in

first of never will see this, I'll see the legate that my children

will be in the future will be so it's that I'm important when I went to

the turf the my main my most my problem was that would

and verier after what was what was what was what was my posture

my my conduct and my the athletes not different. You are

responsible for those that you're that you have to be the same I'm always this

preoccupation, and there's this preoccupation. And for all the whole of Vanderlea I have

a boy, I'm like a subrino so I have this mission to do,

my mom, to help to help you get much success and prospering that he write the

story, yeah, imagine that just had been abated the sentiment of the character

I'm being born I'm this man's man's man's man you I remember,

I remember we're in a lute, I don't remember now what were mutts, the Vandelea

entering in the quarter, we're in the court, I'm in the court, I'm in there's a

little bit of and the van der Leyen came, it was a commemoration in the court,

I remember the moment of the man, the man, and years were, and years

were, um, discruusated for motives of each one, and this re-encoct

now. P, man, this is it's very loco. I don't

see how express this moment. It was you who was the trainer of Vanelie.

Responsible by the part of his jiucied he was a part that he was a guy,

he was a poor, how is the style of the Thor? What we can't

expect of him in this Stret of M.A. He has this DNA

of the Cachor-Rour- Loco to want to go to a He has a

He has a heart. He has the heart. The heart of Vanderlea, the DNA of Vanderlea. And

so that the man, he is very, not that the one of the wasn't, how I can me express.

The Tor is a guy that he's coming with a MMA modern. No, the

with the aggressivity of Vanderley more complete. All what you

show in the world. The Wandeley also was so

it. It's other times, It's other time and it's other thing, he, for example, the Vandeley had very strong

the DNA of Mauintai the Torn, he's coming with an M.M.A. You have the acceptation very strong

of the Ressling, he's, you know, the importance and he's coming with the sport.

Antidamating, man, I'm not just by the Vandalee. Porra, we see that that there

like my man, the partada of, the thing, the thing, the thing, the thing,

the thing, the thing, the brigh a bruce sanctioned, you know? And a

man who is very intelligent, man, you know, you know, he's really that he fix the eyes and

can absorb the information that you're getting to be and then you and the, and the fruit never came to

the wood of the heart, so I think the Tor will come with the spirit of

Vanderleye with the modernity of the sport of today. And how how you

think he can't that he can't be sincere, knockout or finalization

you He's very well trained, and it's an story, the most important, independent of the child, of who Wanderlea

gave a carton to try it as a player. And I think that is important in the creation of his, the evolution

of his sport and as an athlete. Because no there's differentiation. He's there is there, he's there to be sovereverevere,

it's so it works, so that I was forged how the Vandelei was forged, and it's not that. So, this is that I think will make a difference

too. With the same, in the academy, he's being being treated as as one, as quite one, this is possible,

but for the academy it's not been possible, because the the lute of the battle of the event, the state of football,

the guy who will be going to be three, four, four times more want to to gain, because he will be able to

the son, So how are you are you are in the head to be in the because he has been in

this is a career that's this I think this I think the Wanderlea yeah I

think the Wanderlea's and the whole he's a question of this he knows

of who he's he he difficulties and facilities that that

it's I'm the difference that's being that he not the

father he doesn't that's it forge it it

will forge it, to he should the best the best the octagonal and represent

well, the legado of the father and his, but he know that he has to do

he has to do the very explicit of my part and the part of the Vandelea that's

there's there's not Vanderlea and the and the he said he said he was never

to the lot of his, he was to the war, he's, he's,

other level, you know, he was nervous about how you're talking about you're going,

you know, you can't you know, you can't see the he's a moment of the time of the

father and he's not, he's more nervous about but the manned I'm, I have three

friends, the professor, you will see in the one of the those of those of those of

those of those I imagine, man, it's pay, yeah, Bradd, it's,

poor, the adrenaline that is because when we will disembollah our own our own

our own, or in any situation, it's easy, because we're we're not, you know? The result

only depends of us the result. And when it involves the result, porr, with the

certainty, adrenaline, but we know, we know, we know, the most important,

the most we're not to be to get to this thing to compete to compete, no,

it's, even more so, the thing is, but, but, but,

it's, but, well-trained, you know, and this is the most important, and with a spirit to get the

better, because will be well- not-ta-be- kind of kind of could have done more, or could have done that, or could have done

this, this is the most important. So, I think both Wanderlea, as a father, incentivator,

and fan of the child, has this conscience, I, as a technician, and, porra, I'm talking, co-opai,

I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I'm going to, it's a man who without pressure,

and without his post. It's he, he's doing the own atten this event. He's not, he's a

little bit of Patolino, how is that this preparation the final of the Mial to infat a guy

that was too too, too, too, the team, the American, the American, yeah.

So, Guy, one I learned in my life as a life

and as a teacher, that's it's before, before as a other,

we don't men despise to nobody. But I think the Miao is in

a moment of his the patulino a great atl

a lot, because it's a lot because it's a lot important in the

career Luan of Miao and we we're we're we're we're

we're the Quatolino, the deficiencies, and I can say that the qualities of Miao is much more than the qualities of the Catalino, without us, we don't menopressa

nobody, but because what we train and by the serenity, and for everything we we've got to the career of all here, I think it will be a luton for the event, and

also I think will be a knockout or a finalization there. And you, you as a veteran of the shirtbox, the trainer, the team, during many

years, how is you react you? What you're what you're the thing for me, it's a lot of that's a lot

that's a lot we're going to do you know, he's going to do you know, but he's more a YouTuber for him,

so they brought more than the Leder Langeons who's a guy, well, he's a guy sangnair, Lenda of sport.

Lendda, Lenda, and it's to try the popo in a lot to box that this is just like,

ah, it's an exhibition but, oh, when the guy I mean Convence the Pelé to my opinion

My opinion Exhibition will be the ultimate thing will happen That's going to happen. First, the porrada

will stankar That the Popol is a guy that has some blood in eyes in this sense It's a

spirit Let's say if it's BMI Spritory, let me make the first the first

the time more the public will do you the porrara will stankar because, po, are two

guys, as a subject to men, that are the respecting, but that when the hour

that's going to be the lot of the Popo withsson Nunn's, you know?

That's two, two guys professionals, two lenders, two ones,

and that's my man, I'm, I'm a person, my man, man,

man, man, there's a lot, it's a lot, it's, it's, it's, like,

you know, two cars, that, And, poor, my my man, some

references. I'm very curious for this lot of this lot, as far, as far, as far,

I'm going to see the ball kebra, me. Well, when a contemporary your

going to be a course more, to doce a more, it was a expectation of to come,

but it had been to happen to be to learn, how is this desire to

this question, we're there's the possibility, we've been, Look,

I'm God, I'm a guy, I'm a guy I'm a lot I'm really I'm doing all the

I'm gonna I'm gonna dox I'm whiteite do you're wrestling I'mma Valle allie all right

porh Lutas extracurricular of all so I financially I'm a guy stabilized a guy

an employee a businessman a company of success a technician a technician a guy has

a chama always exist, but it has to be a thing very good because the problem I was talking with the Wanderler including,

we're up the same, the problem, not is to get and look to me get to get to be a man,

and doing the same thing that I do you do you say in the way to do you, I don't can't do you

do anything, I don't think, I'm not going to train, and, you go have to have been to do my business

as a technical, as a company, as a company, of my other new things, to think in lot to

so it involves more a question of family too family too three children that we're

going now for example to go to contender with Victor I go to day two and I'm

day 21 vespra yeah of the fight music show so it's complicated for me

it's very oneros this it has to be a thing very well but

who know, the fight music, show, Mama, is a visionary, is trying to do also make a part of Jujitzo, of Kimo? Who, who knows, after 20 years,

I don't, I don't do a lot of Jujit, this is it. It's more easy, it's more easy, involve the most thing, it's a...

Exactly, not the, not the, porre, I don't see. The pent of modern, you know? No,

every day, I have to be with this chamois, of a way different, but she's not not quite in a lot of boxing, not, that's not your party, Jiu-Gits, but it would be a lot just for you trainer, no? But, man, I

say, I'll talk about the Jujit, because it was put inogh by the proper internet, a lot of the fight against Kauan. Kau is a great, a woman that I know the pastime the world, has been

the most respect to the world. It was part of my story also, it's a part of my story, too, I'd have worked with a lot, but we're, we're, we're just, but, por. What's very curious,

the person who you know, imagine that you're talking about with mod, right? Well, boy. I don't know. I was exot. But, but it's it, I'm open to, I'm always

the challenges of life, I'm, I'm not that, I'm the carlough cellar, not pass one way just. He passes, camoufled of other things, but

it's there, if you're prepared, I'm in the, p, don't know, dig a dispassage, I'm in the Valley True I'm at three decades, never even me reinventinging.

Always always always there from you're talking for you. I'm from you didn't existial. So I'm always me reinventinginginging

always, porth, bringing combustible, not just usurpando the sport, but raising combustible

and putting new chapters in the sport. So, at times even, you can't even, man, man,

this guy, this guy, poor, do jubb, the carac, man, man, the guy was a

man, the guy of the man, and the, poor, and so, he's reinventing. So,

for the only the person to have been to be the world to play to

the world, and you, and this then, as years,

for the story that that's accumulah, it's a circle there, but it's

part, my brother. So, and you're to me help me help me to be

your way, you have, you know, you know, between all the those, the job,

on the day 25 of November, you're going to Matthews Bufah doing a

revans with the Elija in the final of the PFL that's

the cinturon the person and the million of dollars that I imagine that

maybe the would be the your major conquest as a main system would be the title of the NFL a million of dollars

that in a sport still is very difficult because he's not if you can't get a million of dollars it's a façed

a cumulative of many it's a cumulative it's exactly so the guy put in a little bit more a million dollars how is

how is to live this moment as a trainer as a trainer with Buf. As you said, I, once I could help the Wanderleysh

Shogun, porr, ninja, be the champions that they were in the shoot-box. But with the CEMC in the civilized

seven victories for questions political, I think, not disputed a centuron because in the FC

seven victories the guy meres a title shot. But I had champion in events like Brave, Jungle Fight nationally,

Future, I did three champions, Worldials, in Brave, I did two champions Mondiars. So, the CEMSystem, guys, it's a carrievee that's a carrievee that's where we're going,

we're in dispute, the cinturons, we're into the best, we're doings, we're doing this. And nothing different now of the BFL. When nobody

was anybody was in his, Bufor, I had, he had in it even in the potential. And one day I will

tell, if God, I'll want to if I'm going to the event until to get this moment. And you can't expect

a Bufa, totally. What you've seen in the last two luts in the guy who is durissom,

the capelosa, which is the actual champion of the event, that was caught to the Bucanat and the Bufo loto with

that property that he luteo. Mostrating being don't that he was actogogoon. It was a He could say

that was sort, it was nothing. If he had been a knockouty down, maybe they'd say that's in the course, but in the

decofficed the domain of the three rounds, saw he was that he was going to a business, a piece

a peser real, that the guy has to have to get to quite 15 kilos to lot in the

day of the event and do what he did also, most he made that he's done to

this final and the lot with a croata will be totally different the first

will be a lot that I believe to, my man, my man, my man, my man, different I don't

want to put much questions strategic, almost that I've I'm but he

has been totally accustomed and accustomed and ambientated with an event my

my man I'm, I'm I'm I'm with this luta with a

final of PFR so you so we have been an encounter marked that on the day 30 of November, it's a quarter

the next to the future of the last year, you'll walk to talk to all the back what's what he's

going to until he get to get this million of dollars there. My mom, look,

it was emotional and nothing. And nothing, like, there were many moments so,

if he, if he not was a kind of spirit, a face, and I, for your

day, of the Aliccels, and, Paul, Fabin, Silva, the Philip Silva also participated

in this moment also like he, we'd, we'd be a realtyce this, this, this,

this, this, this, this, I'm going to talk about, car, it was, with all the

experience that I've had, of various events, of 30 years in the sport, things that when I'd

tell, nobody, nobody, I think, the guy, had to see, the phoenix, before of a

man, man, man, a, a, man, a, part of, but we're going

to talk about about about this that's all right. Thank you, my, my, my name, me, my name, this is there's a front, man.

Thank you. I, I, I, I, I, I, you're going to be a man, we've beencough in the first, but you, as you, as other friends of the media,

my man, you, have made some, that, for me, constructives, that were, things so that were good

to be, to see, or to listen, but important, that they make a person evolve. The

people, the people, the way, confund much the question of, you know, you know,

to the person, the guy, you don't have to be to do the process of any other

kind of you're a person, but you're a person, but you never, if you're doing, this to be

this to becky this is that is that is made the sport, of people who people who have to

when it's not to say, not you know, man, man. Exactly. Many people just want to

hear the, no, no, this is it. No, this is it. No, it's a

profession here, we have to report, have to have to and say, and say, our opinion,

when it's been to say, and it's not what the person can be, I mean,

I understand, certainly, for the person, for a car pass through a person who not lot,

but he, put, I've, I've, I've, in my life, but I

have an understanding. I have been in this poised this poised I'm in I'm in

I'm in't know I'm trying I'm going to get a carce a lube and lay in a porrada but I

have a resume when you when you do you make a under because the

guy did a something for that you do you have to have to have also

he has to do that the world you can be able to if he can't you can't

you can't get to nobody you You will say to my name again, but, but, but I'm here,

Thank you. So, if I want to want to let's go back, we'll talk about just a good year. It's the day 30 of November

you're back to talk the story of the Bufa Millionaire, man, man, we're just if God's if God's

want to the President. The pap now is with Van der Leigh Silva and it comes just a

jasasas after a rapid interval commercial. The other other side of the line we have the

land of Vanda Lein Silva this champion of the past the story in the FEC

in the TOR and now now it's passing the in a Armador in September in

in Curitiba. Thank you, David, thank you. Welcome to podcast. How is the anxiety,

I'm going to see the little to M.I. Yeah, did a box, did box, but now it's

your place in MMA. I'm very really, I'm very happy that's really that's really that's really

good, you're working, training the professor who teaching Marcelo here in CEMSystem is there

has been a senseurion very good to the companions that are helping him to train

at the night, he's training too. So, that's the secret, I'm for him, the secret,

it's just train to be no secret no. I've said to know he said, he said,

he's more nervous to than the other than the life, how is the difference in your

mind, that's the when you're the vespra to do the last the end of your

future, and now, I'm seeing the family, I think who's, I think

who's, the day when you if you if you're, if you're, if you're, you will see how it is.

It really is a sensation totally different, but it's very emotional, because we know how it everything is all the middle of the I know where can't get to get to get, I've seen as well all this, and I know what is the effort individual.

It can be the field of who wants, can't have the money that you've ever, but in the lute, what value is the effort that the individual put, the agharras of the training, right? He was in this point he's been very well,

that he's being he's being a very, he's was that was that was that

was a fact of really a quality of technical really a good, I'd never never

was really not even with the major grperges of the story and here there's a

very good good those guys are very professionals know and really I'm really

I'm very very happy to see how the evolution of him both in the

time the day of the no way he will be there is the

style of him MMA? He is a mini-cachorro-loco, or he has a style proper different of his No, he's very very good, the person, the principal characteristic he has,

which is, he is courageous, is distiming, we, we'll, we'll, do, and do it, he goes, and does, and, at the last, the last one, I said, "'Fill, he, "'C, you know, it's right, "'and it's a certain, and get

"'it's a little bit more, "'the time, it's a little bit "'in' time, it was, "'and, it was, and, "'and, p, p, p, p, and, I'm going to distribute a sores. So, really, this is a great

characteristic. You're a great to be able to trainment, you're getting persistence, and he's very prepared more than all that. And how is he

wins this? I think he'll get him to knockout. I think he's got a man very good, he's doing a lot of

doing a lot of so he doesn't he doesn't he does much very trium no sense he's not he's not

to catch a trino in this, I want to be, I want to be. What I mean, what is to try to victory, like I said to him. When the war is to valet, we have to do,

it's a job, better to do you, but the sport is made to the sport, it's a bit of a fletethe, that can't get, got to,

and I said to get to, I said, I said, I said, I'm, I said, look,

to do you know, to do you do this sport, is going to get to the name is to your name is to the name is

This event will be a very great, a event that's a big event great here of Fight Music Show, the event of the Mamar, here in Curitiba, will be in the dynas of Athletic, the major stadium here of Paranar, with almost 40,000 people, caben there, is there estimating, that's, that's at least a lot, and you, when 19 years to do a combat this, is a opportunity unique,

so I'm very happy with the courage of his, with a professionalism of his young. You've got you did one but you've got a minute, if I'm not going to

me can't, it's not in the year, and now see the Tor having a platform

even more because the meca was a event gigante, but he not had

a gymasio with 20 30,000 people but you know, that's a opportunity

that unfortunately you not didn't not he was not

not I'm I'm to be to proportionate to but

he's you know that you son of Vande Silva

you so can't, of a little more, you can put more opportunities to fight. But when you enter in the ring, or you enter in a-

-you-tattama, it's you with you-your-mess. So it's garra, it's you train at all the day, it's being a professional, as much as you're, the better you'll be in your career.

With a certain, and imagine, boy, he's beencing the strad, he's a maddour, going to the professional, winning, you'll have a event

to have to work to him to be because he's a family, he's a not a manned in a

common, a cat common that will have to be a lot of other an event international.

I imagine that he being being the first, he's going to pay him to pay him back the

God, he's just got receiving various convicts he's he looked

a lot for him and he lot of military so we're many many

so it's very good this we're taking when you're when you're saying that the athlete

has to be a doctor but not there's not a lot of training in a different. At a lot of if you don't have a

lot of Jiu-Git does a lot of box, does a lot of Muay Thai, the athlete have to be competing

to be there can't be the same that's right for sure you have a one day or in the

Pellatot for events where you did the right the final of your career by

by the sadosism historical, to have been been made a letter in Japan I'd prefer that he

would be, for example, for RISING, it's like if it was a continuation of Pride today.

I think there various events good today, really, both the Bela Toursing, the RISC, are vets,

are wonderful that give opportunities to give an opportunity to the athlete, to show to be

to be able to look at the many, and we will be how will be, how will

and let's see the opportunities that will be to be the way to play the the first show came to find out you're

you're going to you're going to talk about to see that's somebody top of intranate you, for what did

not roll in the end of you you're in this same card I'm here I'm here in

Brazil, here in Paranah the candidate from the federal here in Paranah then the date of the

election would be with the the date of the the other, I would not be

doing any other well, I'm going going to focusing on the campaign and doing

many many of the people the people of the sport, I'm I'm going to

do you have to really do the better and show, because now

we're going to show the force of the sports not just the art

martial but of all the sports here in Paran we

never we never we an sportist in Congress, we're just trying to be the first and do do a good job, because it's very you see, you know, you're very very young in kimono, in the signal,

vending the ball to be able to be able to be a child. When I see, it's a lot of the world, making the way of the sportists be more easy, and the people normal, also have more access to these academies and possibly have this benefit of the same thing we have. And the last of the MMA segue a possibility, or this post

is all is that's fechated? You think in after the elections, think in accept a lot,

to find some something, not if I would be a lot, in a lot in a lot of a lot of

this new, this new, this new events of box, I think would be very interesting to do a lot

of box, just box I never lutee, I've I've done a box good, I've had

box with cars very good, but never lute box. So I would would be

much to do a lot of box a event a good of this against a

great name could be you know, would be you think in to be in someone who

was in the person who was the kind of the guy of box yeah I always I always

I always I always I'd do jiuits the guy of Jiuits the guy to Rass and the rest I'd like

to me testar I'd I'd want to a guy Bonds then maybe if it was a Worldial,

or something, even interesting. But I don't want to get a oldie, like the other guy who's almost 70 years,

no, it's a guy more young, get a guy and batting the car rapidly, and it's a thing of

other type of a lot of I'm not, I'm a guy a good. Contrary, he interests to confront

the Bofor? I'd say, could be, but he not, but he not, but he not, he's

maybe, now, now, now, this new moment of the we can, maybe,

mark a lot and do a box to play. It would be a great. It would be mobilized really a really,

really, and to make the our sport could have to more. I think you know the corner of the Tor

will flora even more this saddage to fight, you're going to have been to your fill in

a porrata so imagine what you think, oh, car, have to come back

to vote too, I'm this, I'm I'm I'm here, I'm

here we're here in the training of the CM-Cycy. There's a little training, the people, all in the gas, suing, one pego, one, one, and, poach, what energy is legal, that's a good idea, to be here with a rapacea,

with a lot marked, a number in the ranking, thinking on a champion, thinking in being champion, or thinking in defending the title, so, really, the lutea,

it's something that never can't do you. When you go to back But between all the things in the M.A. What do you make more I'm sure.

I think when I was elected the world, 2004, was the apse of my career. I've moments very

good, thanks to God. I've had an opportunity to be to be able to try with the people,

to be testar, to show the power of our people, that is very when you see a

guy, when you know, when you're living in the other country, you're

really and it's up the experience of many who are in still in the Brazil and you're in

going to get a time, you see a other your city, the country, getting,

it's very good. So I feel very to be able this energy, this force, this experience

for the people, in the world and, particularly that in the

world. And there some that's something that I'm something that's

just a rebanche with our family there was the it was the only

the one not out of the revent. It was what I'd have been to have a revanch, with Dan Rehn's. If you were going to win the first, he perjia the second. It was a second. He was a little gripped on the day of the day of the war. It was a lot of him.

But if he was going to be able to do a lot of it. There's been a lot of course. You said that you were leading, that you had to a little bit of a lot of trauma chry chronic, you know, the Citi and had identified that you had some of the symptoms,

past those these last few years of your last month, how are your health, you're, you're, are better

than you're in that you're, how you're, not, that's, that's all understood, in the reality,

it's because, pox, you have a little bit of soul, all the world has, you know,

it's, you know, the memory, the memory of an memory of elephant, no, I'm,

so, like, so, my health, so, you know, and I'm, thank you,

I'm very happy, like to be able to be past all of my career made in many years, made in many, I've been with the things

good, with the health, and the health care. You're not really how much? I'm going to be 99 kilos. But more

more than the less than a less a piece normal. You're more less than you than you were than you were doing more than you

more lebeye, right? To be less levy now. To be it, I grew up, the guy had got on 120 kilos appeared

a gelator. You think it was a little because you have a little more more lent too?

No, no in the reality it's a lot like was proposed in the time.

They were a bolada to be a final of career, it was a lot of also,

it was a but if we had been if we had had been a both

with a more more the lot could have been better better

to in the MMA, then, you've been a door, it's just the baller box. Yes, the MMA,

BNA, we're in MNA, we're just officially appointed us and so to we finish here,

you know, you've done a time, well, excellent leitura with the stories of MMA and all,

and it's the year and it's also that you were doing a film with a story, how it's

this process? You know, so, you're doing so, you're doing, how is, the rector, in which

I was going to get to this film? The people are negotiating, really the company that's been not going to not be able to another

company that's going to do make an opportunity to make a story of the movie, about the story of the

people, really a young who came to the borough that's been a lot of the world.

That's the city is a lot peculiar. It's the only city of the world that has

four champions like Vandlea Silva Adson Silva Shogun and Chris and Boris. It's always saying to say we're talking to many people, so we're in a city

very interesting and we'll have we have a documentary telling the story of Vandy and of all the M.MA

here in the city of Curitiba. I just think it's difficult to get a role to

get a realise in the stalely I'm I'm also I'm

I'm I'm who's who can't who can't thank you thank you thank you

start with you. Good sort for a filial in this guard out of this show and that's a good old

to watch the box, which is the dream, I'm the time for the time, and a breath to

all of all all of us and we're in the time for the show, you're doing, a break to get athews

being realized, And then, right, in a car of Mario, that's the premiere, that's the show of the first of the local, a guy with a lot of a guy with a lot of

experience, too. How did how it was a negotiation, you came out of the substitute to Christo Yago's who's who

was the news, I'd receive that finally would finally would have a chance to sign a show to the

October. Well, yeah, Tom, from the beginning, many things moved to

my life this year, and the people, it was trying to the strategy. we're going to be ready, prepared.

What I'm going to appear in the future. We'll get to be able to work. And we're going to come out in the objective principal, the air air and the whole, and the alvo was being contender. And then my employer said, oh, we'll be able to be with a peso back,

and I'm going to work for this. And I was waiting a notice in relation to contender, then. And then, he said, how to have your peso? I said, I'll be it, I'm going to be able to beas. if you need to be, I'm sorry, so you can't bathe 3 September? I said, I said, I'm sorry, soothed, socegated. Then, well,

then, then, then, then he said, no, he said, he said, he said, well, he said, well, come to the UFC, my my man, no one, I don't believe it, but it was a locoe, it was an emotion very, very great. But then you, for you, you're in a good sequence of victories, yeah, I remember that I

you knew when I went to Curitiba to do an interview with Vandeleu, I'll have been running various academies to see there,

you're just pointed out of like a promise, but it was a point after this after the

preannes that came and it and it needed to do this a walk over the

way, yeah, that's those experiences that you have, the two debotas

in 2015 and reconstruction of the career, until get in this moment,

imagine that you see in an athlete more a man more prepared mentally

really to for great organizations than a garute promissor that was in that 2015, 2016,

right? That's exactly this is the mentality that I believe that all the things that have to

happen to the time certain, as times happens, you don't be prepared and I

never reclame of what happens in my life because I have this mentality that when it's because

I'm done because I'm I'm trying and eight victories and I'm going to be the UFC, the UFC, I was saying

in various matters and so I'm going to put a pancreas I'm having a reverse, I'm back in the States I was,

I'm going to two sequences of the second in two sequences to make sure to be a par to pass on the frey and

say, Opa, calm there, no, it's been so, we're getting restructur-

and corrigue what was being wrong, it served for my maturity and to

I was great, I was great, and I'm pressing, I knew that in time certain, the things would happen. And I believe that now is the moment perfect that, both in the tatame, as far as the tatami, I'm with a mentality madura and ready to receive

now, in the proportion that's coming now, that's the chance. In that era, you'd had been with Christiana and Marcel, in Curitiba, now you're in M.M.M. Marche of the United, when you did you make,

when you made this move to to, to move to 100% and to live in the United. I also I trained there

at CMEX in the Cere-M Master-Chicchio in Marcel during 10 years all the career there I'm very

great for all the he did Zulu also participate much of my career all the

people there was in the training all there. It's for the

years there and all the all the things I did I did

do the time my career did a pandemic did a lot

of things was done much I'm a pass to the way the things

not were going to talk about the talking about I'm talking about we're going to

we're going to happen something I don't know what is going the things not are

not going and I received a friend of my and say I

say I need to find something something new or something you

don't be something you don't where you know you know

in the comfort where you know and it was there I said

I said no then let's We're going to say to my conform, but we'll do it 100% because I believe that it's in that digital, go, or racha. Or it's now or it's now.

Then it's about that I'm moving everything. I moved totally, and like I said in my post, I came to come to here, like, I'd happen, without know what I would do, and see, since saber the people that I would have encountered, I just

peake and came, and the things were happening, and a friend my said to me, and said, oh, So, there's a response. When I said to say to the UFC, he said, it's the answer, if it was correct or not, the decision that you took to give this space,

to move all your life, no beginning of the year. And, thanks a God, the things are happening, and we're what we're going. We'llcansamos a great objective, right? Now, it's trawlas, new objectives, and the first met, yeah, has been in data marked, we'll, day 13th, September,

there in Paris, to be a victory, and we're going to try the metrics. And as well, the game, yeah, every phase

it's a phase entire is, but the phase new, you know, and it's able to know the tally,

some mann, there's, and it's ready to be getting, new, new, new,

new, new, new, new levels. And of all the academies possible in the

United, so, why you chose, men in Marches to be the new

master, So I know I was the work of the Mayor of the Master of

the Master of the Mayor, my employer, I'm a good relationship, and I'm

talking about with Braia, we decided that here my chance of the chance of a

higher than in other academies for the fact to have many,

for example, there academies that have many athletes and it chance of the I also, I also,

I also knew a much the work of the Master Daniel Valverde. I'm a guy of Jiuitts, he has a rap, in a Jiu-Jits, very top. I'm very happy to

be training here. And, and when I was the first training, I I saw the vibration, the energy that I was the first time, you know,

the, you know, the title, when the santa and the things were flowing, and were going to and going to be sensational,

incredible, and I'm, I'm just me feeling in house really. Manier, the first

is a manor a man who said, a guy who's a guy, he's a experience in the FC, the

end up the only the year of the M.A., was for a ex-comperors of your his job,

he did the stuff you know, was in Abu Dhab in the battle between them, what you think

of him as a other game how is the game? Yeah, we've got in the

same card in Bahrain in year past year I'm in he's

he's he's he's part of he's my name he's he's he's

he's lot of he's a doctor he's a athlete he's he's a

great he's also like he's like he's like I'm like he's like he

don't know that's he's I'm respect much he's a lot level and I think that's

that's a good for me because I just I'm I'm not I'm not going to strier with a guy that's a high-level. So, with a show will be guaranteed, and I'm very happy with this

lot. I'm very happy with you. When you have to imagine a lot, how much you think you win? Ah, I will always look what I like to do, which is Jiu-Jitz, is the finalization. I will use my hand,

I'll use my strike, that the guy doesn't, no, no, they're going to know, me know, they're going to meet the 13thmbr, which is really where I'm going to have

the visibility, you know, maximum, that's to be the UFC. So I want to show my evolution. in-pe, my evolution in strike, that I'll show that I also have the hand,

I'm going to showts, and that I'm going to use to find the way of Jiu-Jitsu, which is what I love, what I love to do. Well, then you've made a career in

the events in Brazil, events there's been in Bahrain, will have the show now in Paris, will have UFC Rio in January, imagine that the

concurrence for a vows in this card will be absurd because, because after three years, have a UFC in Brazil,

everyone, You who are respiration for living this new experience you want to in a car of the FCRio

or for you for more that's a manor to have a torsida family and do you know, to do you do this is

something that you attract more than this moment that you're in your first your career of the F.

My mom I believe that it's a dream to do you for all the world for all

the country to do the country I've been in the party and I the event, it's incredible, energy,

emotion, with certainty. I'd like to look at the Brazil, if you were real, but as well, you said, there's a guy that's a lot of people who's going to be there, the people who just are

recognized, have more recognition, that are, who are taking this space. I'm going to step by step, without, without preoccupation with

what I have to do you have to do, I have to get to see, to, make, to show who I'm, to look at this victory. then we trace new objectives and go on a pass-a-past the Galang

there, I'm describing my name in the organization. A we can't be here in the edition of this week of the podcast, I'm saying too Ander and Silva, Christiana Marcel, Tor Silva, Gabriel Flai, and,

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