MMA Fighting - Trocação Franca | Zebra histórica no UFC 293 + Junior Cigano disputa cinturão
Episode Date: September 13, 2023Sean Strickland chocou o mundo do MMA abater Israel Adesanya no UFC 293, e o Trocação Franca repercute a zebra com o primeiro homem a nocautear Strickland, o paranaense Elizeu Capoeira. O podcast tr...az ainda uma entrevista com Junior Cigano, que revela que disputará o título dos pesados do Gamebred, no MMA sem luvas, após vencer Fabrício Werdum na última sexta-feira. Daniel Miojo, único representante brasileiro do UFC deste sábado em Las Vegas, também fala do combate decisivo na organização. O melhor do MMA brasileiro no Trocação Franca, toda semana, com o jornalista Guilherme Cruz e convidados. Sean Strickland shocked the MMA world by beating Israel Adesanya at UFC 283, and Trocação Franca breaks down the upset with UFC welterweight Elizeu Zaleski, the first man to ever knock out Strickland in MMA. The podcast also features an interview with Junior dos Santos, who reveals he will challenge the winner of Alan Belcher vs. Roy Nelson for the Gamebred Bareknuckle MMA title in January. Daniel Lacerda, the sole Brazilian on the Noche UFC card, also stops by to talk about his upcoming bout. Listen to Trocação Franca with Guilherme Cruz every week to hear from the biggest names on the hottest topics in the Brazilian combat sports world. Follow Guilherme Cruz @Guicruzzz Subscribe: http://goo.gl/dYpsgH Check out our full video catalog: http://goo.gl/u8VvLi Visit our playlists: http://goo.gl/eFhsvM Like MMAF on Facebook: http://goo.gl/uhdg7Z Follow on Twitter: http://goo.gl/nOATUI Read More: http://www.mmafighting.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Senoras and Seniors,
in command of podcast,
Trocaation Franca,
and representing
the MMA Fighting
in Brazil,
Guillermo!
Cruz!
Hello,
I'm a 6th episode
of podcast,
Trocação Franca,
A Suhast
Submere.
I'm a lot of smearer.
I'm going to
Correspondent
on the site
American on M.M.A.
fire in the Brazil,
and I'm in shock
after one of the
major zebras
of the history of
the FC.
Chance Shrikner,
that guy with
two neurons
and that
nobody levate
much fear,
he was impossible
to win
Israel, Adesani,
for 25 minutes
in a lute in
conquist the centuron of the
MEDD of the F.C.
In Australia, I
called the Luceo Capoeira,
first the Brazilian to
wincer to knock outier
the Stryklands in the F.C.
to pick the reaction
of hislota.
So, we'll have
to get a time,
and go to
get a time.
To get a
other side of the line,
we have to
Eliseo Capoeira
that will come to
the October in
November.
But I
invited him to
podcast,
first,
along to talk about
about this
LUT of
to SOME
to RAN
the great zebra
of the end of the
time of the
victory of Shanzhrykland
about the
guy was a zara
a zaron
he's a four
five to one
and he was
doing the
one of the
other players
of the
division of
the middle
the Reshoe
Capoeira
who has gone
the chance
Shrickland in
that the
guy competed
in the
mano
my friend
my name
those things
for there
I imagine you
that's expectation
that's
the expectative in
San Pounder
Paul, no,
yeah,
oh,
car,
it's too,
damn,
yeah,
even more
in the Brazil,
yeah,
it's going
for five
years,
from my
last
my last
in the
last
I'm in
so I'm
so you
know,
it's sensational
with the
I'm a
good,
the
people,
and I'm
about
about this
lot in
San Paulo
is a
thing,
what,
what happened
in
the country,
you,
we're,
we're,
we're in
New York,
much
I moved from there to
go to
in December of
of 2018
now we're
we're in
September of
2023,
almost five
years after five
years after
now the
guy is
a piece
and he
was possible
he picked
the opportunity
he became a
last one
the last
the last year
it was
the other
he was a
opportunity
nobody did
he went to
he went to
you before this
lot you
had that he
had a
capacity.
Capacity all of all
it has.
You're in
the high
level of the
FECC,
but you
have he
chances
real of
a year of
Rassani?
Well,
sincerely
gave,
because I
even I
can't say
the letter
to the
people of
the
people
talking
just about
him
about it
is a
assarang
and
this
question
that you
know,
that you
said
that you
know,
we're
being
to be
being
being
it's been
that
can be
it can
be
to embrace.
I,
I, I,
I, I,
I, I,
I, I,
so,
resuming it
in a form
very simple.
A.
Dece is a
guy much,
uh,
no,
counter-attacks,
not in the
attack,
he is a
guy,
a man,
a man,
no-cautiator
in attack,
he, he,
recu-ann,
he,
no-attack,
he's very,
we see,
the, we're,
the,
we're,
yeah,
that was,
in-the-
end-thro-
in-rosco,
in-st-
this-c-
-c-c-c-
of his
it's what he
he
and
just the
he
tending
the better
that's the
the attack
right
no
there's
no
a
any one
there's
any
a crossad
that
he
did
the
he's
just in
that he
is
good
that
he's
that
he's
I
think
a
I'm
a
proportion
a
percentage
much
a
kind of
that
he's
a
guy
that
a
more
very
very lent
and this
tomada
decision of
the Adesan
he eral
the bot
and to
end up
a invertita
and it was
what happened
the
people,
the guy
came to
oh,
carac
man,
it was there
was there
was there
was a
there,
there's many
many
and not
have to have
made a
one and he
did just that
that the
thing that
the
thing
came
very
And, of course, Nicky's
studied very
all the Adesan
did, because
all the tentative
of shoot that
the Adesana
had made up
the armade of the
or he'd
be able to do
the head of the
Adesan,
he was prepared
to all the
he'd be prepared to
he'd have trained
with Poatan,
he did some
sessions of
training with
Poeatan,
he got a
the guy who
is the guy who
is the guy
that's in the
kickbox or
or in M.A.
With,
my opinion,
my opinion,
was intelligent
him,
I think he,
I think he,
he did the penultimate
Luton,
he did the camp
there,
he did he
I think he
was very
very happy
of his part
of him,
he's trying,
this hype
of Poatan
and, you
see,
long in
in a
little bit of
the clitoral
and the
year,
and he was
a champion
world.
Merced,
mercied
because,
not the matter
to the car,
it's a
man,
it's a
long time,
you know,
it's been,
uh,
doing the career
of his
and,
man,
unfortunately
was,
it was,
it was not
the game
there's
a new
champion
world.
To have the
St.
Trinkins
is a
good for
you,
is the
question of
Mark,
of the
kind of
to make
a
good,
and the
world
always is
good,
never,
it's
always
are good,
the
children,
go-
growing,
going
getting
the
room of
the
world,
no,
no,
no,
no,
no,
no,
for me,
I,
I'm
I look for all
the guys
that I
do,
because for me
this
is a couple
I'm
pushing
too too
so I'm
so I'm
trying to
that he
had done
this
this
and did
all the
good
he did it
you
can't
the champion
of the
division
because we
have a
list
long
there
of guys
good
there's
there's
there
Robert
Whittah
there
there's
there
the
Rans
Kmae
or
Paul
Borrachin
who's in Abu Dhab
and there's
if the UFC
not see this
route of revenge
immediate,
there's all right
to the next
disaffiant,
you,
in these possible
adversaries for
him in this
defense of the
tetheraloron.
You think
the street
wins
enter a favorite
against a
other one of
a zaraon
in front of
any of these
adversaries?
I think
in the vision
general,
of what the
people are
coming,
I think he
enters as
as far,
but I
I see
many
the names
there,
car,
that he
sobesae
there's
there's
a little
that's
kind of
kind of
to be
a guy,
I think
the best
for me
is the
bestletta
of the
division,
man,
I think the
guy
very
good,
so
that's a
person,
no way,
not
will be
a
game,
so he
does
he's
that
the movementation
and
there,
it's
very
very
very similar
with
the
M'
will enter
and
will
go
to Palone.
But then we have
other names
that are the
games that are
I think the game more consistent,
I think the game more consistent, a game more varied,
that not fit in the middle, that not be in the
middle, that no, gulfs reds, that anguling more,
not did
not to the
core of the
ball,
not saw,
but I think
that all depends
of who,
this is the
this is the
what he
will be,
I believe
that it could
be able to
maintain,
it's all the
question of
the casem
so you know
what you
think Mayervi
and Borrecheon
as a
lot of a
lot of
a lot
you think
who can
gain this
this lot
to win
to the chance
to the chance
the chance
to be
the two
against
them
would be
favor of this.
Certainza.
With a
certain.
I think the
guy more
more
for the
Strickland
still is the
Borrachin.
Because
the
Strickland has
a west
very good
he has a
good, he
has a
attack very
good.
For more
we don't
see
a lot of
but he's
a man, but
he's a
area of this
he is, and he
is a
opinion,
that the
game,
the job
the borrashia
is a
a game more
dangerous for him.
The Borrecheon is a
guy that
can't be the
game even,
angula much,
you know,
he's the variations
on both the
other ways,
so it's a
game more
difficult.
Yeah,
poche,
Pish,
Shimaev,
a guy who
goes to
the end,
you know,
you,
you've got,
you,
he's,
he's,
he's,
not a
arm to go
to go to
front,
right,
we know,
we're,
we're,
yeah,
and the
car,
but I,
I think,
yeah,
I think,
I,
I think,
two there
credit inceia
much to
to be disputing.
But I
think they're
going to
make this
revenge even
with the
second.
This success
that he's
having in the
middle,
he says
something about
a possible
a possible
of a
particular
in the
bodies of
different, the
bodies
different,
that for
you're
for you,
the set-s-
will be
for ever
the same,
the
same,
there were
many
the
lot-and-
were the
seven-se-
and
they're
subbing
of category
and one
of the
things that
I see is
just the
question of
vergatura,
the question
of structure,
I think
if I
did some
a
work
very well
directed to
84,
I think
probably
would be
more
and would
be more
more
prepared
to be
for 8,4
but I
feel
very,
I'm
I'm
so-s-
I'm
to be
my
piece,
I do everything
I do not
the doctorlogo
pass the situations
all,
as situations all,
as I have
to see the
protocol,
the most
I have trains
of quality,
in the 77
in the
CEMC,
there have
many four
there,
there's a
man of the
guys are
very good
so,
not the
question of
the question
really
of
the
question really
really
of
the invultura
so
I think
I would
would be
a category
now
in this
moment.
but,
of a
great,
for the
having got
the champion
they're
to putt
to putt
this stint
there,
it's been
a honor.
We'll
be able to
get back all
sure.
For certain.
The next
pass now
in November
in the
UFC
San Paulo,
even in
middle,
against
the Rinnatio
Farrette
Noe
that's a
man who's
emboladissed
in FEC
in the
last he
put him
the
Kevin Lee
to
to sleep. What do you think you're the
choice of this
Lutta? How is the game between
you guys?
Cair, the question of
choice, I don't have much to
choose, I know, I do you,
I do always, I'm always
never, I'm never
accepting, and I'm prepared for
the Lutta. It's a guy,
not there's a guy, much
d'Uro, like
any other athlete,
in the division, our category, is
a category very complicated,
you know, car?
You think a guy is
good, and another, it's
better, and so,
and so, it's, and
all those have
their qualities.
I think the category
that has more
there's a
level in
all the
the comming
in the shan,
in the rest
in the box
that are
all more
or less paroliddle
everyone is
very good in
all the
car I think
this
this casement
will be a
little
it will be
be to get
a fog
he will
come with
I go
with all
I'm with
all over
I'm
preparing
for this
everyone
who me
accompany
and you know
that's
this thing
to get
mornando
the lot,
so the
the game
that he wants
to be able
I'm
like that's
we're in the
car,
I'm doing
my job
and I'm
anxious for
this.
It's more
a new
a man
a good,
a man,
an athlete a
good.
I think
that's just
me
fast
train more
and me
concentrate and
focus on
the lot
I'm
am moved to
this
I'm moved
to
move to
move to
the
so when
the
FCM,
I'm going
these
uts
for me,
I'm
I'm getting
better
more,
looking more
looking to
my job
to put in my
job,
you know,
and you're
really good
in this
game
in the
first
call
there,
and the
first
time to
the
for the
grep
but I
think
conform
going to
the
lot there
I think
is creating
various
situations
too.
But,
but,
car,
I
comparing those other
athletes that I've
I've got to
I think it's
a guy that
is the same
level, you know,
how is he
get to him?
I'm sorry
I'm not quite
knockoutian,
finalizing
some of these
forms.
All we'll determine
this way in
the course of
he's a rankier
even,
but he has been
really highpe,
especially for the form
that he'll be
going to be able to
or then
knockoutian,
you put a
back on the rank
there?
So,
and seriously
I don't see. I'm
too focused,
like, in
the perspective
of the
lot,
you know,
not in
the post.
So I'm
very,
very focused
in her,
anxiouso to
to be in
Brazil.
And sincerely
man,
I,
we always,
we always
always,
I never
I always
things.
So,
there,
there's,
I think,
to be
getting
someone
to be
to be
ranking,
I'm
to be
a good,
a good campaign
in the F.C.
in any way,
since when I
entered,
until today
today,
I think,
there,
but the
my focus is
this
this next
pass,
very well,
be a good
be a good
lot,
depending on whatever
thing,
and then
then we'll
see what can
happen to happen.
Manier,
thank you
thank you very
good, good
sox in this
RETA final.
Retron,
two months in
preparation
to do that
a lot and
it's a rebent
there.
Thank you.
It's always
much,
it's always
two months,
two months,
practically,
but for the
lot,
the same time
that's,
a little time,
it's a lot of
we can't
work very
even in this
time.
And,
and,
and,
it's very
to be back
to be in
Brazil,
and just
thank
to all
people,
I'm
trying to
always,
I'm
so oncious
to me
to be
to be
to be
to be
to you
always,
for the
moral,
for the
honor,
to be,
we,
a we're getting this conversation,
car,
very good,
thank you,
and we're doing
with everything.
Let's work and
show our
our best work.
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a lot of
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the course,
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was in the
lot, because at times
he took a so
because it
didn't have
a lot of
a lot,
it's,
it affected more
the verdun than
you,
it's got
it, it's
got out,
And the
last of the
game of grappling
that you
imagineable
that for not
have been
would be able to
give us
but it's
not going to
put up to
the ground
but
in general
the experience
was super
positive
and you
are able
to do
more in
the future
or the
idea is
to come
to the
media
traditional
or
is trying
maybe
a box
without
maybe
a box
with
a louva
what
what
what
what
the
plan
now
after
after
the
plan
the plan
the
plan
The principal,
until
even,
before,
this
was to
look to
talk about,
to
dova,
normal,
box,
and to
confronts,
these great
champions,
the box,
to offer us
to the
MMA,
a,
for MMA,
a chance
real,
to really
gain of these
boxiators
there,
that,
that are,
that are,
that they,
have this
confront of
MMI and
box,
that's happening
in the
box,
but are
a sport
completely
different,
and the
the guy of MMA
maybe
don't have
a parameter
so much
of how
I think
being a good
try to go
to go to
do that
not so
not simple
this form
box is a
sport totally
different
has been
to be
prepared
to do
to do
and I
I have
a car
chef
the box
so if
if there
someone
of
MMA
that can
can
get
derubes
these
champions
there
are
I'm
And the idea,
as, as I said, I
I liked very, the idea,
in January,
has a lot of the
Cinturon, the Game Bread.
I got a lot of
style, as I said
well, I'm feeling well
there, I don't
put it, and even in a moment
of, like,
the career, that I, like,
I, like, I, like,
I, took the opportunity
to not put a lot
pressure in
on the
same
and I
even I thought
before the
this is a
lot of this
would be
so
a lot of
my
adversary
not would
not would
not really
with me
before
before
it's
from it
from the
end of the
and I
I think I
I think I
did something
I never
could be
a
first time
I was
so well
and
focused
and so
and so
relaxed
too
the
my idea
obviously
was
it was
to win,
to do
the better
of me,
but without
that pressure
I'm going
to get to
do you have to
do you know,
I'm going to
do you know
there's not,
I need to go
and I
have done
and I'm
doing something that
I never
did in my
career,
that was
really to
take a
moment
from the
beginning
and to
give to
my better.
So I
am quite
content with
everything
happened
I got
the
style and
the
hands
also
they've also
not certain
a goal
in show
in show
in Verdun
all
were a tox
but it
but it's
much it
has been
the courts
that are
the
are going
going to
and I
know
my style
is
movementation
so
it's a
more
complicated
no
I'm
an
an
an alvo
parado
there
for simply
the
people go
and
and go
and go
the
gopies
against this
alf.
So I
think this
important, I
feel like
in January
we're going
to look for
this centuron
by the
banduckle
and we
expect a
lot of
box also
that can
happen in
brief.
The
the
mainst of
you were
that you're
talking,
is the
the
Alan Belt
with
Roy Nelson?
They're
going, in
the
fact,
I'm
against
one of
the
both,
by what
the
Mastvidal
said
I,
I'm against one of the two
they're
going to
now in October
and who
who are the
winner
then he's
in the
I think that's
that's just
is for the
centuron,
this is the
Benosso?
Yeah,
yeah,
I don't see
so the
first,
the first
the first
yeah,
so it's
now,
then then
then I'm
going to
maybe to
look to
a champion.
Manierro,
and who
what you
think you
who wins
this
this is a
man,
man,
so man,
so,
man,
a
veteranist,
the
person,
You've got to
You've got to
confront him
in the F.
And the Wara
he didn't
was a peser
in the time
of the Fiscer
but the
guy was
got very
after he's
really
without
lube and what you
think you
think you
think you
think you
think it's
difficult
so it's
I'm still
a little
yeah
with Bernanoke
maybe
this benefits
he and
he's a
Royneelsso is a
good
I'm a
fan of him
and I
I'm a
I like
very the style of
the lute
of his
I think
I believe
he could
be better
in this
dispute.
Manier,
mannere.
You,
now,
is 2 to
no placar
on the
on the
Verdum.
This
battle
encerra
the story
between
you,
or you
think
that in
future
still can
be
a trilogy
depending
the
room
that the
career of
you see
if he
continue
to
MMA
Cin Nuvus
there,
get more
victories,
you
conquist
the centuron
and he
he's
a lot of
a front.
It's a
good,
it can't
be,
it's going to
happen,
not the
God's pertence,
but I think it's
that we
have a cycle
in a cycle
and a
caramba,
a cycle
a lot of,
a single,
so,
of a rivalry
that was
created
there was
that was
that we're
in this
reality,
in this
reality,
even
kind of
kind of
kind of
of this
time,
I even
had the opportunity
to,
we had an
opportunity,
to put there
and I'm
like I'm
and I'm
with the professor
Raphael
first,
then I
went to
talk with
this
and then
the respect
and even
that I
have to
know for
them
and the
how I'm
appreciated
I'm
so,
because
the cigano
passed
to be
known
because he
I was with a Redo,
there was.
The boom of my career
came, because I
had the opportunity
to look with a guy
that was super-renomated,
that in the case
was he,
and then we
built that
rivalry, that was
important, too.
It was something
that was something
for me,
principally.
So,
then,
then I,
I came to turn
a champion,
he also
he was always
never,
never happened.
And after 15
years,
in 2023,
we're
going to
to be
a lot of
I think
this is
a privilege
in the
very,
and I
think it's
a circle
there's
that's
extremely
important
for my
career
and I
could
express
this for
for Verdum
for the
team
of
let's clear
of
how important
all important
that was
for me
and
what was
not,
of how it
was not,
of how
for me and to be
today
even with
him,
I'm in
back,
it was a
very,
basically,
so,
for my career
and all.
I'm,
I'm,
I'm,
I'm,
feel,
and I'm,
with the
moment,
for have passed
for all this,
for have
been,
like,
no,
there,
no,
more space for,
for,
for any,
type,
negativeity,
nothing,
I,
I,
I,
I don't
that
thing to
be able to
be able to
be able to
get a
negative
so I think
no more
sense
this thing
this thing
of the
rivalry
in the
contrary
I said
I'm
there's
I'm
back
when I
never
I never
I never
I'm
I'm
I'm
my
inspirations
were
him
and he
and I
always
I'm
I'm
I'm
I'm
I'm
I'm
there's
a
real
and
but
more.
But it were him
Notaro,
who were
notators
renomated,
peasasas
so I'm
inspired on
them to
to keep in
front and me
turn to be
who I
me turner.
Just for
we'll finish
here,
talk a
little of
UFC,
that will
have a
title,
the title
that's a
title that's
a new
Tieth,
who's a
guy that you've
been to
try to
John Jones in
New York.
How can
see this
duelo
of generations
different
John Jones,
who was very
in the
preying of
against the
Cirogan,
now
he's going
to find the
guy who
had a record
of defense
of a superon
in the
heavy
and he's
a manned
he's a
man who's
a man who
can't
see this
confront
between the
two
there.
I think
I think
that this
was the
fight
that's
this is
a lot of
if there
someone
to do
front
and
to bring
some
complications
for John
Jones
in this
moment
is Steve Miotit.
The Steve is a guy
that I admire
a lotator,
a good,
a good-
very strong,
a bathe
and there's a
base of wrestling
also very
good.
I think if
there's someone
that's
somebody who's
the life of
John Jones
is the
Miotich.
So the
people of
the F.C.
Dana White
and the
the guy
got got
got got
in the
story.
I think
will be
a
a lot
that
really
really
um
empolgar
all the
fans.
I don't
get to
this
this lot
it's a
lot of
that's a
lot of
me
does
and the
obviously
that the
John Jones
is
is a
favorite
against
with who
the
guy
is exceptional
I never
never
never
never
never
never
never
in the
career
so
it's
a
it's a
it
is a
will
make the
the guy
to get
a guy
trying to
keep a
instant
there's
there's
these are
really very
impugante
my tautit
in my
career
I think
who
who got
the goal
the
most
the goal the
most
the
I think
I could
have
conscience
not the
I'm
the other if
I'm
but
but
but
I think
he draws a
a big
for John Jones
and the John Jones
we need
never need to
say,
not far
of series
you said
you said
you said much
that the
both
can be
depended
of who wins
if this
if this
if John Jones
to get and
if he's
if John Jones
to get and
if my tis
to get to be
who can't
you see as
this
lacuna that
is the
division of
the
pesas
the
people of the
people
Pavlovich
Palovit
Pavlovich
is a
little difficult
no
I think
this guy
my
my man
I had
I had
the opportunity
to train
with him
the
guy
is a
really
a caramb
man
it
caska
gross
it
will
be
abhorer
many
people
there
I
see
he
he will
be
he will be
an
an
an
an
an
an
will dominate the category in
brief,
even more that he's
getting every day
is better.
We don't
know what will
happen to happen.
Who can't
who will get
this
lot and what
before you're
a little bit more
aylidine
with Kournsblaise
here in
Brazil in
South Paulo.
It's very
if the maladine
continue
impressioning
and even
because
symbiotit
and John
Johnny
be a
impover and
have been
an
new problem
to have
the next
the
time too
also that
is very
in the
category
but you
I think that of all these names,
Pavlovich is a guy that
has a game that complicate to
to everyone, that the guy really
comes to, to initiate a new era
in the division and dominat.
I think, like,
in what I could see,
and I've had a lot of experience,
a malladino,
also, it's, been,
a rebeenting,
and, you know, in all the
things, I'm,
I'm going to continue
so, and continue
well.
Now, I
What I could have
I could have
some experience
to people
of the person
of training and
everything,
know,
how the guy
is difficult
and when Paul Vitt
for that I'm
saying this.
He is
durissim,
you know,
but obviously
that we have
seen,
I,
the work
with a lot
has made
have made
to impressonar
and I
think he
also will
be
being,
it's
going to be
a dispute
interesting,
everything that's
I think the
category of
the Precious
I think the
I've been
living a moment
even with a
moment, even
with the sub-upid
a lot of
a little bit of
a category
and with great
names there.
From the other
side of the line
we have
Daniel Myojo
that in this
Saturday
Edgar Chairns
in the UFC
in Las Vegas
Amid how
is the
expectative
to this
return to
the octogono
in the
soniada
and to
guard the first
victory
on the FCC 1.
Oh,
poor,
first I,
I'd
thank you
the opportunity
to open the
space for
me here
to be the
talking to
you know,
I'm very,
I'm anxious,
I'm trying
really,
I'm really,
I'm doing
to get
there and
do a new
show
long.
You're
in an
environment
perfect
here in
Brazil
to get
in a
lot of
because
the Charles
is
with a
revanch
and
the
team
entire
the
football
is
all the world with the luta,
all everyone with the UFC,
how is the climate of the academy,
imagine that's,
for that's,
everyone prepared to the war.
Yeah,
it's a couple
always says,
that we're going to
a lot,
everyone wants to be able to
get to be a lot,
more we have to train
for us to be
to get in these cars
because
the gain of our
is a premium,
so we're trying
much to not
not do this
ghostin for
nobody,
You feel that's this climate
now, that who
enter,
coming from the
chute-box, Diego
Lima, for
to have the
main starles,
the major stren of Brazil
in a moment,
it's,
I got the guy
that train with Charles,
gained the company
of the team of Charles,
gay, the guy
of the chiboxy
you think
created this aura
in the academy
today.
Ah, with a
turn to be a
alvo,
not just for
because of
Charles,
but if you
look,
the result,
all in
all the
athletes,
uh,
been seeing
events national,
international,
but in the UFC,
out of the FC
so it's
you can
become turning
an alvo
because
we have
a lot of
mann't
there's
many people
in the
people
to train
with a
country to
the
the tendency
is always
the level
there in
the end of
Edgar
that was
in the
contender
and
he came
on
the
after the
company
he never did
the
contested
he had
passed
the
contender
another
but
he
had
to do you do this second,
it's a good one of the other
adversary, what you've seen,
what you've seen,
the other than the others
anterior?
In fact, he was
going to be in the world.
That's right.
Yeah, for you
see, two athletes
that have much
potential to be in
FC, the UFC,
the UFC
recognized you,
and the opportunity
of their
in direct.
So, so,
the Lip
yeah,
was studying him,
and then I
came to talk
to me,
and I,
he passed a little
of what could
happen in
the lute,
the little that he was training
and I absorbed
this then
and I put it
into the
game too
because in the
fact that we
train a lot
to do a
time but
everything
but it's
all you can
be a
my baggage
my time
of the
I think
I'm adapted
with this
yeah
to have to
recalculate
the route
in the
middle
the lot
so I'm
so I'm
I'm trying
all the
aspects to
get there
I don't
have any
type of
surprise
You were training with LIPP to help him to this
LUT?
Yes, I trained a lot of LIP for the
Luteen to help him.
The Lip, he is good in an auto and on the
but I see him as a strike more
perigoso, he is a man very abridoros in-pe,
and he is very good on the ground also,
but I was more helping him
in this part of the ground,
that I'm a little more advanced,
I mean, I do more on the ground
in my area of comfort,
so I was
helping
more
he's
this stock
but he
he's
a guy
very good
to show
you're
you're
different
the strategy
that you
will use
in this
is a
copy and
it's
a copy and
do it
or is
different
for cause
of this
oh
not
not
man
it
it's
a
different
because
he
he
he's
that he
he's
he's
he's
he goes
to
do that
he
I'm
more
a
contra
go
piator, but when I
I feel the share of
the same, I go to
all right in, but
like, it's not
different, so, no,
you know, the strategy
my is to get
there's a lot
secure to be
to be trying
to be a victory,
even because
I don't need
to be making
war, because
all the most of my
lotters were
war, I think
in a moment we
need to need
more of this
victory,
for the year
we're getting
more one and
then they're
taking a rankiado.
These are
my plans,
but what would happen
in this
I'm going to
be prepared
you know,
you know,
you're going to
because it's very
a person
to get to
have four
luts and receive
more opportunity,
because the
contract are four
luts,
you came,
you didn't
get a new
opportunity,
but you're
a new opportunity,
you're a lot,
you're going to
go to the
war, you
don't know
to do that,
you're not
there, you
think that
again to
this
lutong and more
to wincer
to guarantee
the permanence
in the FC
more than you
do more than you
do that's
difficult they
they'd
be able to
other opportunity
how can't
how you
get a
your head
in the lute
because
the intention
now is
going to
but
we know
we always
we always
we always
but in
the way
the way
the way
the way
I'm
I go
to make a
a lot
secure,
but I don't
I'll
let's go
to
get to
get to
this is
my
pattern.
Logger,
one
one or other
he can
go to
be in the
control, but
then we're
to re-calculate
and
to go to
the route
to control
there,
listen to
my corners,
not,
work,
work,
time,
the time of
the distance,
I'll
try to
try being
this victory,
but I
want to
get a
knockout
or
the
finalization.
For
much
that you
enter
there,
no,
I will
do
the Lutu Segura
here with
a book of
the rugs
to be able to
guarantee a victory
when you know
the first
you know the first
I'm sorry
I'm going to
the porrada
meh
it's what I'm
like I'm
like this
my
my trainers
they're even
like me
because they
they're saying
I always
do something
but in the
middle of
I'm accretent
you know
because if I
did a jab
a shoot
or something
the guy
in some
it's borsar a
kind of
a car to
a car
I'm going to
go to
come to
two times.
I know that
can't be
one thing
the other
other side
but the
a sock
of a guy
semi-nocaltied
and not
me derubed
and how
you can't
you can't
get to
this
little to
maybe
try to
maybe
to make
that you
don't
have to be
a
thing that's
that's
a
that's
the
thing
and you
go
and you
say
more
more
my
this day. I say, I'm
a little,
not,
out of the octagon.
I'm not
a guy
polemic,
these things,
but I
think the
my job,
I'm going to
go to get to
get to the
I'm going to
get to the
UFC, I
always, I
always,
I said,
I,
nobody can
get
to see my
lot of,
because I
don't want
to get
sitting
with the
sonn
watching
my
when the
public
is very
calm,
I go
to the
characteristic. I do this in the
training. Not is
a thing I, oh, I
will, I will
do you, I'm going to
do you know, I'm
doing to train too. I like to
go to see up, you know, I love to
do, you know, but
I think the way to this
lute, is I'm going to,
my distance, right?
And, I
put in the hand, my
shoots, and I
think if he
try to do that
do a grata with
it can be a wrong
for him. But one
one or other, we will
be able to be
there, I believe
that my Jigit's
very superior than
And not so
that he's
and that
many other
people are
that I even
didn't have
opportunity to
show my
Jiu-Jitz,
but when
you see my
Jiu-Jitz
you will
understand
that I'm
talking.
More of
those
victories
was for
finalization
and
almost
the
derrots
of his
was for
finalization
also.
The
the roteer
is there
like that
the
thing,
it's like
it.
Yeah,
never was
how
it's
never
was
by the
always
it's always
it's always
or rachia
never
I never
I think
this
thing I think
you know
I think you
think you
get by decision
and you
don't have
because
you know
a loter
intelligent
or a
loter
or that you
have
condition
physical
but
my
instinct is
I'm
I'm
I can
do
do you
can't
do
five rounds
but
it's
time
I'm
I'm
I took a
problem
in
other
luts
because
of question of
I don't
see if it was
a quarter of
a piece
or something
but for
this lot
for example
now I'm
doing a
non-noying
nutritionist
and preparation
all right
and today
I'm with
62 kilos
well
generally I
generally I'm
generally I'm
too
I'm very
very strong
and today
my own
part of my
third week
my second
my entire
so I'm
more than 10
of Muay
quarter
still still
I have 20 rounds
to do
and get there
will be three
rounds
so,
car,
can't even
expect,
I'm in 220
you know
you're in
a post-Mosca,
you custom
train with
with Charles
or,
or,
or,
in the difference
of time
today,
that he's
to be
a little
medium,
not can
not to
do you
to do
a lot,
maybe?
Yeah,
the rosa
every
we do this
week,
so the
a we intercamb
intercamb between
one and other
we always
start the first
roll up in the
most of the same
the same
even the same
to do you know
not to be
the guys more
and the guys
have to be in
the more of the
my piece
and we're trying
to get the
time total
to finalize
and be better
and also
I'm training
also trying
too
and is always
passing the
Dica
for the
people
for the guys
helping
helping
he does
much
corn
too
between a train or another,
when he not has a cut
marked,
he does much corn,
and he does
for this
fight.
Now I did a lot
in October, and these
my last time,
he was a lot
and I was doing
a lot more,
and I was putting
a more,
I'm doing a lot,
and I'm trying
to do this
lot.
How good.
How is it
is the expectation
for the
battle of
this other
important
with the
match,
I mean,
to recover
the citron
of the
A man
A different that I
I've seen
from him
from him
from the
from the
last of
he's
he's
he's
he's
he likes to
be there
not that he
not that he
has a little
more of a
more of a
year,
but he's
always I've been
very happy,
he's always
he's very
he's very
he's very
he's very
he's always
he runs
he rome
he plays sparr
but always
I'm
So I think that's the differential,
it's, you know, he's very
happy, and I think when you're
not,
how you say,
no, he can't be able to
get up, he's not, he can't
be able to my
lot to do, you know, because I
said, oh, car, the secreto,
you're trying,
you're feeling what you're saying,
you know,
to live the process,
depending on the result.
And how is you think
that win this victory?
I don't know,
I don't know, I don't
say, no, but I think
the way
he's,
it's like
that it's
that's
that's
it's a
thing,
I think he
will be
to get in
a man,
car.
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