MMA Fighting - Trocação Franca | Zebra histórica no UFC 293 + Junior Cigano disputa cinturão

Episode Date: September 13, 2023

Sean Strickland chocou o mundo do MMA abater Israel Adesanya no UFC 293, e o Trocação Franca repercute a zebra com o primeiro homem a nocautear Strickland, o paranaense Elizeu Capoeira. O podcast tr...az ainda uma entrevista com Junior Cigano, que revela que disputará o título dos pesados do Gamebred, no MMA sem luvas, após vencer Fabrício Werdum na última sexta-feira. Daniel Miojo, único representante brasileiro do UFC deste sábado em Las Vegas, também fala do combate decisivo na organização. O melhor do MMA brasileiro no Trocação Franca, toda semana, com o jornalista Guilherme Cruz e convidados. Sean Strickland shocked the MMA world by beating Israel Adesanya at UFC 283, and Trocação Franca breaks down the upset with UFC welterweight Elizeu Zaleski, the first man to ever knock out Strickland in MMA. The podcast also features an interview with Junior dos Santos, who reveals he will challenge the winner of Alan Belcher vs. Roy Nelson for the Gamebred Bareknuckle MMA title in January. Daniel Lacerda, the sole Brazilian on the Noche UFC card, also stops by to talk about his upcoming bout. Listen to Trocação Franca with Guilherme Cruz every week to hear from the biggest names on the hottest topics in the Brazilian combat sports world. Follow Guilherme Cruz @Guicruzzz Subscribe: http://goo.gl/dYpsgH Check out our full video catalog: http://goo.gl/u8VvLi Visit our playlists: http://goo.gl/eFhsvM Like MMAF on Facebook: http://goo.gl/uhdg7Z Follow on Twitter: http://goo.gl/nOATUI Read More: http://www.mmafighting.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:02:08 the MMA Fighting in Brazil, Guillermo! Cruz! Hello, I'm a 6th episode of podcast, Trocação Franca,
Starting point is 00:02:32 A Suhast Submere. I'm a lot of smearer. I'm going to Correspondent on the site American on M.M.A. fire in the Brazil,
Starting point is 00:02:38 and I'm in shock after one of the major zebras of the history of the FC. Chance Shrikner, that guy with two neurons
Starting point is 00:02:46 and that nobody levate much fear, he was impossible to win Israel, Adesani, for 25 minutes in a lute in
Starting point is 00:02:53 conquist the centuron of the MEDD of the F.C. In Australia, I called the Luceo Capoeira, first the Brazilian to wincer to knock outier the Stryklands in the F.C. to pick the reaction
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Starting point is 00:03:15 Eliseo Capoeira that will come to the October in November. But I invited him to podcast, first,
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Starting point is 00:03:37 one of the other players of the division of the middle the Reshoe Capoeira who has gone
Starting point is 00:03:46 the chance Shrickland in that the guy competed in the mano my friend my name
Starting point is 00:03:52 those things for there I imagine you that's expectation that's the expectative in San Pounder Paul, no,
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Starting point is 00:04:13 good, the people, and I'm about about this lot in San Paulo
Starting point is 00:04:19 is a thing, what, what happened in the country, you, we're,
Starting point is 00:04:23 we're, we're in New York, much I moved from there to go to in December of of 2018
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Starting point is 00:04:50 he went to you before this lot you had that he had a capacity. Capacity all of all it has.
Starting point is 00:04:57 You're in the high level of the FECC, but you have he chances real of
Starting point is 00:05:02 a year of Rassani? Well, sincerely gave, because I even I can't say
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Starting point is 00:06:07 that he is good that he's that he's I
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Starting point is 00:06:59 or he'd be able to do the head of the Adesan, he was prepared to all the he'd be prepared to he'd have trained
Starting point is 00:07:05 with Poatan, he did some sessions of training with Poeatan, he got a the guy who is the guy who
Starting point is 00:07:11 is the guy that's in the kickbox or or in M.A. With, my opinion, my opinion, was intelligent
Starting point is 00:07:18 him, I think he, I think he, he did the penultimate Luton, he did the camp there, he did he
Starting point is 00:07:25 I think he was very very happy of his part of him, he's trying, this hype of Poatan
Starting point is 00:07:33 and, you see, long in in a little bit of the clitoral and the year,
Starting point is 00:07:38 and he was a champion world. Merced, mercied because, not the matter to the car,
Starting point is 00:07:42 it's a man, it's a long time, you know, it's been, uh, doing the career
Starting point is 00:07:48 of his and, man, unfortunately was, it was, it was not the game
Starting point is 00:07:53 there's a new champion world. To have the St. Trinkins is a
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Starting point is 00:08:39 there Robert Whittah there there's there the Rans
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Starting point is 00:08:50 route of revenge immediate, there's all right to the next disaffiant, you, in these possible adversaries for
Starting point is 00:08:58 him in this defense of the tetheraloron. You think the street wins enter a favorite against a
Starting point is 00:09:03 other one of a zaraon in front of any of these adversaries? I think in the vision general,
Starting point is 00:09:11 of what the people are coming, I think he enters as as far, but I I see
Starting point is 00:09:16 many the names there, car, that he sobesae there's there's
Starting point is 00:09:21 a little that's kind of kind of to be a guy, I think the best
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Starting point is 00:09:35 a game, so he does he's that the movementation and
Starting point is 00:09:38 there, it's very very very similar with the M'
Starting point is 00:09:42 will enter and will go to Palone. But then we have other names that are the
Starting point is 00:09:48 games that are I think the game more consistent, I think the game more consistent, a game more varied, that not fit in the middle, that not be in the middle, that no, gulfs reds, that anguling more, not did not to the core of the
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Starting point is 00:10:36 you think who can gain this this lot to win to the chance to the chance the chance
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Starting point is 00:10:43 certain. I think the guy more more for the Strickland still is the Borrachin.
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Starting point is 00:11:01 he's a area of this he is, and he is a opinion, that the game, the job
Starting point is 00:11:08 the borrashia is a a game more dangerous for him. The Borrecheon is a guy that can't be the game even,
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Starting point is 00:11:29 to go to front, right, we know, we're, we're, yeah, and the
Starting point is 00:11:32 car, but I, I think, yeah, I think, I, I think, two there
Starting point is 00:11:36 credit inceia much to to be disputing. But I think they're going to make this revenge even
Starting point is 00:11:43 with the second. This success that he's having in the middle, he says something about
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Starting point is 00:12:07 just the question of vergatura, the question of structure, I think if I did some
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Starting point is 00:12:49 not the question of the question really of the question really really
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Starting point is 00:13:21 that's a man who's emboladissed in FEC in the last he put him the
Starting point is 00:13:28 Kevin Lee to to sleep. What do you think you're the choice of this Lutta? How is the game between you guys? Cair, the question of choice, I don't have much to
Starting point is 00:13:36 choose, I know, I do you, I do always, I'm always never, I'm never accepting, and I'm prepared for the Lutta. It's a guy, not there's a guy, much d'Uro, like any other athlete,
Starting point is 00:13:48 in the division, our category, is a category very complicated, you know, car? You think a guy is good, and another, it's better, and so, and so, it's, and all those have
Starting point is 00:13:58 their qualities. I think the category that has more there's a level in all the the comming in the shan,
Starting point is 00:14:07 in the rest in the box that are all more or less paroliddle everyone is very good in all the
Starting point is 00:14:15 car I think this this casement will be a little it will be be to get a fog
Starting point is 00:14:20 he will come with I go with all I'm with all over I'm preparing
Starting point is 00:14:25 for this everyone who me accompany and you know that's this thing to get
Starting point is 00:14:31 mornando the lot, so the the game that he wants to be able I'm like that's
Starting point is 00:14:37 we're in the car, I'm doing my job and I'm anxious for this. It's more
Starting point is 00:14:42 a new a man a good, a man, an athlete a good. I think that's just
Starting point is 00:14:46 me fast train more and me concentrate and focus on the lot I'm
Starting point is 00:14:51 am moved to this I'm moved to move to move to the so when
Starting point is 00:14:56 the FCM, I'm going these uts for me, I'm I'm getting
Starting point is 00:14:59 better more, looking more looking to my job to put in my job, you know,
Starting point is 00:15:09 and you're really good in this game in the first call there,
Starting point is 00:15:13 and the first time to the for the grep but I think
Starting point is 00:15:19 conform going to the lot there I think is creating various situations
Starting point is 00:15:23 too. But, but, car, I comparing those other athletes that I've I've got to
Starting point is 00:15:28 I think it's a guy that is the same level, you know, how is he get to him? I'm sorry I'm not quite
Starting point is 00:15:35 knockoutian, finalizing some of these forms. All we'll determine this way in the course of he's a rankier
Starting point is 00:15:44 even, but he has been really highpe, especially for the form that he'll be going to be able to or then knockoutian,
Starting point is 00:15:52 you put a back on the rank there? So, and seriously I don't see. I'm too focused, like, in
Starting point is 00:15:59 the perspective of the lot, you know, not in the post. So I'm very,
Starting point is 00:16:05 very focused in her, anxiouso to to be in Brazil. And sincerely man, I,
Starting point is 00:16:13 we always, we always always, I never I always things. So, there,
Starting point is 00:16:18 there's, I think, to be getting someone to be to be ranking,
Starting point is 00:16:22 I'm to be a good, a good campaign in the F.C. in any way, since when I entered,
Starting point is 00:16:28 until today today, I think, there, but the my focus is this this next
Starting point is 00:16:37 pass, very well, be a good be a good lot, depending on whatever thing, and then
Starting point is 00:16:43 then we'll see what can happen to happen. Manier, thank you thank you very good, good sox in this
Starting point is 00:16:51 RETA final. Retron, two months in preparation to do that a lot and it's a rebent there.
Starting point is 00:16:55 Thank you. It's always much, it's always two months, two months, practically, but for the
Starting point is 00:17:01 lot, the same time that's, a little time, it's a lot of we can't work very even in this
Starting point is 00:17:07 time. And, and, and, it's very to be back to be in Brazil,
Starting point is 00:17:12 and just thank to all people, I'm trying to always, I'm
Starting point is 00:17:16 so oncious to me to be to be to be to be to you always,
Starting point is 00:17:19 for the moral, for the honor, to be, we, a we're getting this conversation, car,
Starting point is 00:17:25 very good, thank you, and we're doing with everything. Let's work and show our our best work. Now we're
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Starting point is 00:19:13 reality of again more in a lot of a different like this in an MMA
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Starting point is 00:19:22 so great for It was a realte It was a A lot important Like you
Starting point is 00:19:28 You have a person We have a We have a story It's a Yeah very legal
Starting point is 00:19:34 in the rivalry Yeah of the MMA This sport marvelous And I
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Starting point is 00:19:48 Verdun just a great A grand champion And I And I was coming there in
Starting point is 00:19:54 FC 15 years after we could even do you could even a lot
Starting point is 00:20:01 really really important and I could say with the victory also you
Starting point is 00:20:07 know like you said the way the was it was
Starting point is 00:20:12 also something something something something that was something
Starting point is 00:20:16 really really really really and more more motivation
Starting point is 00:20:22 inspiration, inspiration. And how was the experience of to do a lot without some sort of to do you know, like readdating there. It's like a a walk to the various temples of the valley,
Starting point is 00:20:32 all, how was this experience for you to, to, to, try a porrada, in the hand pelada.
Starting point is 00:20:41 It was legal. In the I was I was a little with the first they were we, we, we,
Starting point is 00:20:51 we, we, the, we, we're, not, but then I went to do what,
Starting point is 00:20:55 how, it was, you know, and I think that there was nothing to not the most, the only
Starting point is 00:21:01 factors that were different, so, is that would would be more more, the risk,
Starting point is 00:21:06 and the, the, the, the, when I perceived this, I, it was,
Starting point is 00:21:13 it was, it was, it was, there's nothing different, no, this, a,
Starting point is 00:21:17 it's, a, a little more of the sang, so, it's
Starting point is 00:21:20 so, it's, we're in this, we've had a opportunity to finish the
Starting point is 00:21:27 same the same the first idea, and then we we're going to and we and in fact,
Starting point is 00:21:36 and in a good, a good, a great opportunity, uh, to have been in
Starting point is 00:21:42 past, there, there, there, there, there, the, the,
Starting point is 00:21:44 how it was, the and, and I, I, sincerely, I me sent me very well, I got me a lot
Starting point is 00:21:53 of the style, and even, maybe, for being a guy more of the box, that's a movement a lot, I think that I
Starting point is 00:22:01 really benefited a lot of this lance of the course, how is it was in the lot, because at times he took a so
Starting point is 00:22:10 because it didn't have a lot of a lot, it's, it affected more the verdun than you,
Starting point is 00:22:15 it's got it, it's got out, And the last of the game of grappling that you imagineable
Starting point is 00:22:21 that for not have been would be able to give us but it's not going to put up to the ground
Starting point is 00:22:26 but in general the experience was super positive and you are able to do
Starting point is 00:22:32 more in the future or the idea is to come to the media traditional
Starting point is 00:22:35 or is trying maybe a box without maybe a box with
Starting point is 00:22:40 a louva what what what what the plan now
Starting point is 00:22:42 after after the plan the plan the plan The principal,
Starting point is 00:22:47 until even, before, this was to look to talk about, to
Starting point is 00:22:51 dova, normal, box, and to confronts, these great champions, the box,
Starting point is 00:22:55 to offer us to the MMA, a, for MMA, a chance real, to really
Starting point is 00:23:04 gain of these boxiators there, that, that are, that are, that they, have this
Starting point is 00:23:10 confront of MMI and box, that's happening in the box, but are a sport
Starting point is 00:23:14 completely different, and the the guy of MMA maybe don't have a parameter so much
Starting point is 00:23:20 of how I think being a good try to go to go to do that not so not simple
Starting point is 00:23:27 this form box is a sport totally different has been to be prepared to do
Starting point is 00:23:32 to do and I I have a car chef the box so if if there
Starting point is 00:23:37 someone of MMA that can can get derubes these
Starting point is 00:23:41 champions there are I'm And the idea, as, as I said, I I liked very, the idea, in January,
Starting point is 00:23:51 has a lot of the Cinturon, the Game Bread. I got a lot of style, as I said well, I'm feeling well there, I don't put it, and even in a moment of, like,
Starting point is 00:24:05 the career, that I, like, I, like, I, like, I, took the opportunity to not put a lot pressure in on the same and I
Starting point is 00:24:14 even I thought before the this is a lot of this would be so a lot of my
Starting point is 00:24:16 adversary not would not would not really with me before before it's
Starting point is 00:24:22 from it from the end of the and I I think I I think I did something I never
Starting point is 00:24:28 could be a first time I was so well and focused and so
Starting point is 00:24:35 and so relaxed too the my idea obviously was it was
Starting point is 00:24:40 to win, to do the better of me, but without that pressure I'm going to get to
Starting point is 00:24:45 do you have to do you know, I'm going to do you know there's not, I need to go and I have done
Starting point is 00:24:51 and I'm doing something that I never did in my career, that was really to take a
Starting point is 00:24:56 moment from the beginning and to give to my better. So I am quite
Starting point is 00:25:02 content with everything happened I got the style and the hands
Starting point is 00:25:07 also they've also not certain a goal in show in show in Verdun all
Starting point is 00:25:15 were a tox but it but it's much it has been the courts that are the
Starting point is 00:25:20 are going going to and I know my style is movementation so
Starting point is 00:25:25 it's a more complicated no I'm an an an alvo
Starting point is 00:25:32 parado there for simply the people go and and go and go
Starting point is 00:25:37 the gopies against this alf. So I think this important, I feel like
Starting point is 00:25:42 in January we're going to look for this centuron by the banduckle and we expect a
Starting point is 00:25:48 lot of box also that can happen in brief. The the mainst of
Starting point is 00:25:55 you were that you're talking, is the the Alan Belt with Roy Nelson?
Starting point is 00:26:00 They're going, in the fact, I'm against one of the
Starting point is 00:26:05 both, by what the Mastvidal said I, I'm against one of the two they're
Starting point is 00:26:09 going to now in October and who who are the winner then he's in the I think that's
Starting point is 00:26:17 that's just is for the centuron, this is the Benosso? Yeah, yeah, I don't see
Starting point is 00:26:22 so the first, the first the first yeah, so it's now, then then
Starting point is 00:26:28 then I'm going to maybe to look to a champion. Manierro, and who what you
Starting point is 00:26:31 think you who wins this this is a man, man, so man, so,
Starting point is 00:26:33 man, a veteranist, the person, You've got to You've got to confront him
Starting point is 00:26:38 in the F. And the Wara he didn't was a peser in the time of the Fiscer but the guy was
Starting point is 00:26:44 got very after he's really without lube and what you think you think you think you
Starting point is 00:26:49 think you think it's difficult so it's I'm still a little yeah with Bernanoke
Starting point is 00:26:56 maybe this benefits he and he's a Royneelsso is a good I'm a fan of him
Starting point is 00:27:03 and I I'm a I like very the style of the lute of his I think I believe
Starting point is 00:27:09 he could be better in this dispute. Manier, mannere. You, now,
Starting point is 00:27:16 is 2 to no placar on the on the Verdum. This battle encerra
Starting point is 00:27:22 the story between you, or you think that in future still can
Starting point is 00:27:26 be a trilogy depending the room that the career of you see
Starting point is 00:27:30 if he continue to MMA Cin Nuvus there, get more victories,
Starting point is 00:27:35 you conquist the centuron and he he's a lot of a front. It's a
Starting point is 00:27:41 good, it can't be, it's going to happen, not the God's pertence, but I think it's
Starting point is 00:27:46 that we have a cycle in a cycle and a caramba, a cycle a lot of, a single,
Starting point is 00:27:55 so, of a rivalry that was created there was that was that we're in this
Starting point is 00:28:01 reality, in this reality, even kind of kind of kind of of this
Starting point is 00:28:06 time, I even had the opportunity to, we had an opportunity, to put there and I'm
Starting point is 00:28:13 like I'm and I'm with the professor Raphael first, then I went to talk with
Starting point is 00:28:17 this and then the respect and even that I have to know for them
Starting point is 00:28:23 and the how I'm appreciated I'm so, because the cigano passed
Starting point is 00:28:29 to be known because he I was with a Redo, there was. The boom of my career came, because I had the opportunity
Starting point is 00:28:35 to look with a guy that was super-renomated, that in the case was he, and then we built that rivalry, that was important, too.
Starting point is 00:28:44 It was something that was something for me, principally. So, then, then I, I came to turn
Starting point is 00:28:51 a champion, he also he was always never, never happened. And after 15 years, in 2023,
Starting point is 00:28:59 we're going to to be a lot of I think this is a privilege in the
Starting point is 00:29:02 very, and I think it's a circle there's that's extremely important
Starting point is 00:29:10 for my career and I could express this for for Verdum for the
Starting point is 00:29:16 team of let's clear of how important all important that was for me
Starting point is 00:29:23 and what was not, of how it was not, of how for me and to be today
Starting point is 00:29:30 even with him, I'm in back, it was a very, basically, so,
Starting point is 00:29:36 for my career and all. I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, feel, and I'm,
Starting point is 00:29:43 with the moment, for have passed for all this, for have been, like, no,
Starting point is 00:29:48 there, no, more space for, for, for any, type, negativeity, nothing,
Starting point is 00:29:53 I, I, I, I don't that thing to be able to be able to
Starting point is 00:29:58 be able to get a negative so I think no more sense this thing this thing
Starting point is 00:30:05 of the rivalry in the contrary I said I'm there's I'm
Starting point is 00:30:11 back when I never I never I never I'm I'm I'm
Starting point is 00:30:15 my inspirations were him and he and I always I'm
Starting point is 00:30:19 I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm there's a real
Starting point is 00:30:22 and but more. But it were him Notaro, who were notators renomated,
Starting point is 00:30:26 peasasas so I'm inspired on them to to keep in front and me turn to be who I
Starting point is 00:30:33 me turner. Just for we'll finish here, talk a little of UFC, that will
Starting point is 00:30:37 have a title, the title that's a title that's a new Tieth, who's a
Starting point is 00:30:44 guy that you've been to try to John Jones in New York. How can see this duelo
Starting point is 00:30:50 of generations different John Jones, who was very in the preying of against the Cirogan,
Starting point is 00:30:57 now he's going to find the guy who had a record of defense of a superon in the
Starting point is 00:31:01 heavy and he's a manned he's a man who's a man who can't see this
Starting point is 00:31:07 confront between the two there. I think I think that this was the
Starting point is 00:31:13 fight that's this is a lot of if there someone to do front
Starting point is 00:31:16 and to bring some complications for John Jones in this moment
Starting point is 00:31:21 is Steve Miotit. The Steve is a guy that I admire a lotator, a good, a good- very strong, a bathe
Starting point is 00:31:32 and there's a base of wrestling also very good. I think if there's someone that's somebody who's
Starting point is 00:31:39 the life of John Jones is the Miotich. So the people of the F.C. Dana White
Starting point is 00:31:44 and the the guy got got got got in the story. I think will be
Starting point is 00:31:48 a a lot that really really um empolgar all the
Starting point is 00:31:52 fans. I don't get to this this lot it's a lot of that's a
Starting point is 00:31:57 lot of me does and the obviously that the John Jones is
Starting point is 00:32:04 is a favorite against with who the guy is exceptional I never
Starting point is 00:32:09 never never never never never never in the career
Starting point is 00:32:13 so it's a it's a it is a will make the
Starting point is 00:32:19 the guy to get a guy trying to keep a instant there's there's
Starting point is 00:32:27 these are really very impugante my tautit in my career I think who
Starting point is 00:32:33 who got the goal the most the goal the most the I think
Starting point is 00:32:39 I could have conscience not the I'm the other if I'm but
Starting point is 00:32:44 but but I think he draws a a big for John Jones and the John Jones we need
Starting point is 00:32:53 never need to say, not far of series you said you said you said much that the
Starting point is 00:32:59 both can be depended of who wins if this if this if John Jones to get and
Starting point is 00:33:07 if he's if John Jones to get and if my tis to get to be who can't you see as this
Starting point is 00:33:15 lacuna that is the division of the pesas the people of the people
Starting point is 00:33:20 Pavlovich Palovit Pavlovich is a little difficult no I think this guy
Starting point is 00:33:27 my my man I had I had the opportunity to train with him the
Starting point is 00:33:31 guy is a really a caramb man it caska gross
Starting point is 00:33:36 it will be abhorer many people there I
Starting point is 00:33:39 see he he will be he will be an an an
Starting point is 00:33:43 an an an will dominate the category in brief, even more that he's getting every day is better.
Starting point is 00:33:51 We don't know what will happen to happen. Who can't who will get this lot and what before you're
Starting point is 00:33:57 a little bit more aylidine with Kournsblaise here in Brazil in South Paulo. It's very if the maladine
Starting point is 00:34:03 continue impressioning and even because symbiotit and John Johnny be a
Starting point is 00:34:06 impover and have been an new problem to have the next the time too
Starting point is 00:34:11 also that is very in the category but you I think that of all these names, Pavlovich is a guy that has a game that complicate to
Starting point is 00:34:20 to everyone, that the guy really comes to, to initiate a new era in the division and dominat. I think, like, in what I could see, and I've had a lot of experience, a malladino, also, it's, been,
Starting point is 00:34:33 a rebeenting, and, you know, in all the things, I'm, I'm going to continue so, and continue well. Now, I What I could have
Starting point is 00:34:47 I could have some experience to people of the person of training and everything, know, how the guy
Starting point is 00:34:53 is difficult and when Paul Vitt for that I'm saying this. He is durissim, you know, but obviously
Starting point is 00:35:01 that we have seen, I, the work with a lot has made have made to impressonar
Starting point is 00:35:06 and I think he also will be being, it's going to be a dispute
Starting point is 00:35:12 interesting, everything that's I think the category of the Precious I think the I've been living a moment
Starting point is 00:35:18 even with a moment, even with the sub-upid a lot of a little bit of a category and with great names there.
Starting point is 00:35:34 From the other side of the line we have Daniel Myojo that in this Saturday Edgar Chairns in the UFC
Starting point is 00:35:40 in Las Vegas Amid how is the expectative to this return to the octogono in the
Starting point is 00:35:45 soniada and to guard the first victory on the FCC 1. Oh, poor, first I,
Starting point is 00:35:51 I'd thank you the opportunity to open the space for me here to be the talking to
Starting point is 00:35:54 you know, I'm very, I'm anxious, I'm trying really, I'm really, I'm doing to get
Starting point is 00:36:01 there and do a new show long. You're in an environment perfect
Starting point is 00:36:07 here in Brazil to get in a lot of because the Charles is
Starting point is 00:36:10 with a revanch and the team entire the football
Starting point is 00:36:15 is all the world with the luta, all everyone with the UFC, how is the climate of the academy, imagine that's, for that's, everyone prepared to the war. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:36:26 it's a couple always says, that we're going to a lot, everyone wants to be able to get to be a lot, more we have to train for us to be
Starting point is 00:36:37 to get in these cars because the gain of our is a premium, so we're trying much to not not do this ghostin for
Starting point is 00:36:45 nobody, You feel that's this climate now, that who enter, coming from the chute-box, Diego Lima, for to have the
Starting point is 00:36:53 main starles, the major stren of Brazil in a moment, it's, I got the guy that train with Charles, gained the company of the team of Charles,
Starting point is 00:36:59 gay, the guy of the chiboxy you think created this aura in the academy today. Ah, with a turn to be a
Starting point is 00:37:05 alvo, not just for because of Charles, but if you look, the result, all in
Starting point is 00:37:09 all the athletes, uh, been seeing events national, international, but in the UFC, out of the FC
Starting point is 00:37:16 so it's you can become turning an alvo because we have a lot of mann't
Starting point is 00:37:22 there's many people in the people to train with a country to the
Starting point is 00:37:27 the tendency is always the level there in the end of Edgar that was in the
Starting point is 00:37:35 contender and he came on the after the company he never did
Starting point is 00:37:39 the contested he had passed the contender another but
Starting point is 00:37:42 he had to do you do this second, it's a good one of the other adversary, what you've seen, what you've seen, the other than the others anterior?
Starting point is 00:37:50 In fact, he was going to be in the world. That's right. Yeah, for you see, two athletes that have much potential to be in FC, the UFC,
Starting point is 00:37:59 the UFC recognized you, and the opportunity of their in direct. So, so, the Lip yeah,
Starting point is 00:38:05 was studying him, and then I came to talk to me, and I, he passed a little of what could happen in
Starting point is 00:38:11 the lute, the little that he was training and I absorbed this then and I put it into the game too because in the
Starting point is 00:38:18 fact that we train a lot to do a time but everything but it's all you can be a
Starting point is 00:38:26 my baggage my time of the I think I'm adapted with this yeah to have to
Starting point is 00:38:33 recalculate the route in the middle the lot so I'm so I'm I'm trying
Starting point is 00:38:38 all the aspects to get there I don't have any type of surprise You were training with LIPP to help him to this
Starting point is 00:38:45 LUT? Yes, I trained a lot of LIP for the Luteen to help him. The Lip, he is good in an auto and on the but I see him as a strike more perigoso, he is a man very abridoros in-pe, and he is very good on the ground also, but I was more helping him
Starting point is 00:39:04 in this part of the ground, that I'm a little more advanced, I mean, I do more on the ground in my area of comfort, so I was helping more he's
Starting point is 00:39:12 this stock but he he's a guy very good to show you're you're
Starting point is 00:39:17 different the strategy that you will use in this is a copy and it's
Starting point is 00:39:23 a copy and do it or is different for cause of this oh not
Starting point is 00:39:27 not man it it's a different because he
Starting point is 00:39:31 he he's that he he's he's he's he goes to
Starting point is 00:39:36 do that he I'm more a contra go piator, but when I
Starting point is 00:39:41 I feel the share of the same, I go to all right in, but like, it's not different, so, no, you know, the strategy my is to get there's a lot
Starting point is 00:39:51 secure to be to be trying to be a victory, even because I don't need to be making war, because all the most of my
Starting point is 00:39:59 lotters were war, I think in a moment we need to need more of this victory, for the year we're getting
Starting point is 00:40:05 more one and then they're taking a rankiado. These are my plans, but what would happen in this I'm going to
Starting point is 00:40:13 be prepared you know, you know, you're going to because it's very a person to get to have four
Starting point is 00:40:22 luts and receive more opportunity, because the contract are four luts, you came, you didn't get a new
Starting point is 00:40:29 opportunity, but you're a new opportunity, you're a lot, you're going to go to the war, you don't know
Starting point is 00:40:35 to do that, you're not there, you think that again to this lutong and more to wincer
Starting point is 00:40:41 to guarantee the permanence in the FC more than you do more than you do that's difficult they they'd
Starting point is 00:40:48 be able to other opportunity how can't how you get a your head in the lute because
Starting point is 00:40:54 the intention now is going to but we know we always we always we always
Starting point is 00:41:02 but in the way the way the way the way I'm I go to make a
Starting point is 00:41:07 a lot secure, but I don't I'll let's go to get to get to
Starting point is 00:41:10 this is my pattern. Logger, one one or other he can go to
Starting point is 00:41:15 be in the control, but then we're to re-calculate and to go to the route to control
Starting point is 00:41:22 there, listen to my corners, not, work, work, time, the time of
Starting point is 00:41:27 the distance, I'll try to try being this victory, but I want to get a
Starting point is 00:41:33 knockout or the finalization. For much that you enter
Starting point is 00:41:35 there, no, I will do the Lutu Segura here with a book of the rugs
Starting point is 00:41:39 to be able to guarantee a victory when you know the first you know the first I'm sorry I'm going to the porrada
Starting point is 00:41:45 meh it's what I'm like I'm like this my my trainers they're even like me
Starting point is 00:41:54 because they they're saying I always do something but in the middle of I'm accretent you know
Starting point is 00:42:00 because if I did a jab a shoot or something the guy in some it's borsar a kind of
Starting point is 00:42:05 a car to a car I'm going to go to come to two times. I know that can't be
Starting point is 00:42:10 one thing the other other side but the a sock of a guy semi-nocaltied and not
Starting point is 00:42:14 me derubed and how you can't you can't get to this little to maybe
Starting point is 00:42:20 try to maybe to make that you don't have to be a thing that's
Starting point is 00:42:26 that's a that's the thing and you go and you
Starting point is 00:42:31 say more more my this day. I say, I'm a little, not, out of the octagon.
Starting point is 00:42:39 I'm not a guy polemic, these things, but I think the my job, I'm going to
Starting point is 00:42:46 go to get to get to the I'm going to get to the UFC, I always, I always, I said,
Starting point is 00:42:52 I, nobody can get to see my lot of, because I don't want to get
Starting point is 00:42:57 sitting with the sonn watching my when the public is very
Starting point is 00:43:01 calm, I go to the characteristic. I do this in the training. Not is a thing I, oh, I will, I will do you, I'm going to
Starting point is 00:43:08 do you know, I'm doing to train too. I like to go to see up, you know, I love to do, you know, but I think the way to this lute, is I'm going to, my distance, right? And, I
Starting point is 00:43:22 put in the hand, my shoots, and I think if he try to do that do a grata with it can be a wrong for him. But one one or other, we will
Starting point is 00:43:30 be able to be there, I believe that my Jigit's very superior than And not so that he's and that many other
Starting point is 00:43:37 people are that I even didn't have opportunity to show my Jiu-Jitz, but when you see my
Starting point is 00:43:43 Jiu-Jitz you will understand that I'm talking. More of those victories
Starting point is 00:43:47 was for finalization and almost the derrots of his was for
Starting point is 00:43:51 finalization also. The the roteer is there like that the thing,
Starting point is 00:43:55 it's like it. Yeah, never was how it's never was
Starting point is 00:44:01 by the always it's always it's always or rachia never I never I think
Starting point is 00:44:07 this thing I think you know I think you think you get by decision and you don't have
Starting point is 00:44:12 because you know a loter intelligent or a loter or that you have
Starting point is 00:44:18 condition physical but my instinct is I'm I'm I can
Starting point is 00:44:23 do do you can't do five rounds but it's time
Starting point is 00:44:28 I'm I'm I took a problem in other luts because
Starting point is 00:44:31 of question of I don't see if it was a quarter of a piece or something but for this lot
Starting point is 00:44:37 for example now I'm doing a non-noying nutritionist and preparation all right and today
Starting point is 00:44:42 I'm with 62 kilos well generally I generally I'm generally I'm too I'm very
Starting point is 00:44:49 very strong and today my own part of my third week my second my entire so I'm
Starting point is 00:44:57 more than 10 of Muay quarter still still I have 20 rounds to do and get there will be three
Starting point is 00:45:03 rounds so, car, can't even expect, I'm in 220 you know you're in
Starting point is 00:45:10 a post-Mosca, you custom train with with Charles or, or, or, in the difference
Starting point is 00:45:16 of time today, that he's to be a little medium, not can not to
Starting point is 00:45:22 do you to do a lot, maybe? Yeah, the rosa every we do this
Starting point is 00:45:28 week, so the a we intercamb intercamb between one and other we always start the first roll up in the
Starting point is 00:45:36 most of the same the same even the same to do you know not to be the guys more and the guys have to be in
Starting point is 00:45:42 the more of the my piece and we're trying to get the time total to finalize and be better and also
Starting point is 00:45:50 I'm training also trying too and is always passing the Dica for the people
Starting point is 00:45:54 for the guys helping helping he does much corn too between a train or another,
Starting point is 00:45:59 when he not has a cut marked, he does much corn, and he does for this fight. Now I did a lot in October, and these
Starting point is 00:46:07 my last time, he was a lot and I was doing a lot more, and I was putting a more, I'm doing a lot, and I'm trying
Starting point is 00:46:18 to do this lot. How good. How is it is the expectation for the battle of this other
Starting point is 00:46:23 important with the match, I mean, to recover the citron of the A man
Starting point is 00:46:28 A different that I I've seen from him from him from the from the last of he's
Starting point is 00:46:32 he's he's he's he likes to be there not that he not that he has a little
Starting point is 00:46:41 more of a more of a year, but he's always I've been very happy, he's always he's very
Starting point is 00:46:46 he's very he's very he's very he's always he runs he rome he plays sparr but always
Starting point is 00:46:54 I'm So I think that's the differential, it's, you know, he's very happy, and I think when you're not, how you say, no, he can't be able to get up, he's not, he can't
Starting point is 00:47:05 be able to my lot to do, you know, because I said, oh, car, the secreto, you're trying, you're feeling what you're saying, you know, to live the process, depending on the result.
Starting point is 00:47:16 And how is you think that win this victory? I don't know, I don't know, I don't say, no, but I think the way he's, it's like
Starting point is 00:47:25 that it's that's that's it's a thing, I think he will be to get in
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