MMA Fighting - UFC 299 Post-Fight Show | Reaction To Sean O'Malley, Dustin Poirier's Big Wins

Episode Date: March 10, 2024

Sean O'Malley is still the UFC bantamweight champion after delivering a spectacular bell-to-bell performance in his first title defense against Marlon Vera in the main event of UFC 299, sweeping the scorecards for all three judges. Will O'Malley's next fight be a title defense against Merab Dvalishvili, or will "The Sugar Show" head to the featherweight division for a clash with new champ Ilia Topuria? Following Saturday's memorable night of fights in Miami, MMA Fighting's Mike Heck, Jed Meshew, and Eric Jackman react to O'Malley's tremendous showing, his post-fight callout of Topuria, and how he matches up with Dvalishvili. Additionally, the panel discuss Dustin Poirier's highlight-reel knockout of Benoit Saint Denis, Michael Page's successful UFC debut against Kevin Holland and where "MVP" goes, Jack Della Maddalena's comeback finish of Gilbert Burns, Petr Yan getting back on track with a hard fought win over Song Yadong, and more. Follow Mike Heck: @MikeHeck_JR Follow Jed Meshew: @JedKMeshew Follow Eric Jackman: @NewYorkRic Subscribe to MMA Fighting Check out our full video catalog Like MMA Fighting on Facebook Follow on Twitter Read More: http://www.mmafighting.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Bannamweight Champion of the world. His name is Sugar Sean O'Malley. Goes out there. sweeps the cards, made Marlon Vera bleed his own blood, hurt Marlon Vera a couple times, did what many believed couldn't be done. And Sean O'Malley is still the UFC Bannamweight champion after a fantastic performance.

Dustin Porre, also fantastic performance. More in that in a little bit, but thank you for joining us here on the UFC 299 Post-Fight Show. I am Mike Heck. We're joined by Mr. No Gray area himself, Bichu where is he there he is right here up to the three stars it did that you see that check mark this right there delivered that's i mean delivered because i thought and we're going to talk all about it but i thought that there was a chance that maybe the main event wouldn't be the most

fun and so even if the whole card was great we might end on a little bit of a downer nope mean it was great whole card top to bottom was great sick fight sick outcomes great storylines had a wonderful time, fellas, excited to talk with you about it. Let's go. And also joining us, didn't think we were going to have this, but what a surprise. New York Rick tagging in on short notice, delivering like he always does. New York, Rick, how are you? Thrill to be here, pumped up after what was a card that on paper looked like one of the best of the year and then delivered. I'm excited to talk some of MMA. All right. Well, let's get right into it. Let's go. get ran into what Jed put over big, the main event.

Sean O'Malley just gives Marlon Verra the business. 50, 45, 50, 45, you know, 50 44. I mean, Jed, there were a lot of questions heading into this fight. We knew Sean could have a performance like that, but would he have the wherewithal, the discipline to go out there and fight Marlon Vera almost perfectly? And boy, did he tonight? What a performance.

This fight was not all that competitive. Marlon Vera did very little damage to Sean O'Malley. There were certain points where he would land like a decent shot and get Sean's attention. And then the best shot Marlon landed was like with one or two seconds left in the fight when he ripped him to the body. But at that point, it was just too little too late. Your reaction to what Sean O'Malley did tonight, sweeping the cards against a really tough, tough son of a bitch in Marlon Vera. First, I would say that it was competitive, but that it wasn't close. Like very clearly that's a 50-45.

I don't have a huge issue with 5044. They're doing it in the fifth round seems weird. But, I mean, that was a masterclass. And we talked about it. On the preview show, you asked, hey, what's your biggest question coming into this? And I had two questions. And it was one for each of them. And the one for O'Malley is, is he going to fight smart?

Is he, there is a clear path forward for him to approach this fight? Is he going to take that path or is he going to buy into the, I'm going to knock Chito out thing? I'm going to do this. Nobody's ever done it. I'm going to be the guy. And then down that path lay damnation. That's how he can lose this fight is thinking that and pursuing it to his own detriment. And he didn't.

He fought a brilliant fight. It was you said discipline and I think that is the best word. But it's more than that too because it was not just the discipline of it. That is the most impressive part. The fact that he came in with a great game plan, executed it brilliantly and never really deviated. But he also showed me stuff beyond that because when we were talking pretty, fight, it was how can he be super impressive? And I was like, well, I mean, obviously he knocked out Cheeto, but I don't think that's possible. And we learned that that's true. It's just not

possible to do that to Cheeto apparently. But he can have a really disciplined performance and he did that. But beyond that, he also showed a ton more toughness than we've really had to see him display before. I mean, there were moments of it in the Yon fight, but you said Cheeto didn't really hit him all that hard. I would disagree. I don't think Cheeto hit him that often, but there were several moments when Cheeto finally got one shot in and Sean ate it, reset and was like, hey, we're not going to do this anymore, but he was never scared of Cheeto. He was never concerned about what came back. He was respectful of it, but clearly showed an ability to sort of dig deep in moments when Cheeto did start having success at various points. Sean did not just run away until Cheeto got

tired. Sean sat in the pocket and fired back and was like, bro, back to fuck up off me. It was a disciplined performance. It was a beautiful performance. It was a much more rugged performance in spaces than I think he'll get credit for because we are all fascinated with the prettiness of it. But it was a total performance and showed that he is still developing, still improving and legitimately like him or not, like one of the best fighters in the world and certainly one of, if not the best fighter in this weight class. What was your grade, your reaction, your big takeaways from what Sean O'Malley did tonight, New York grade? Yeah, it's hard to give him anything but an A plus because I do think Cheeto Vera was a game opponent.

As I said, on various shows heading into this, I thought the betting line was a little bit off. And I thought Chewara was a decent style matchup for Sean O'Malley. And Sean O'Malley proved that he really wasn't. like Sean O'Malley was just on his game, was able to execute a game plan that we hadn't been able to, like we haven't seen him in championship rounds and now we've seen him in championship rounds. And he looked fine.

He looked good. He looked sharp. He looked fast against the guy who I think is one of those fighters who's dangerous in round five, which you can't say about a lot of guys, especially when they've eaten the volume of shots that Sean O'Malley put on them. Most of the time, guys who get hit that many times are fading. Most of the time, those guys are no longer.

dangerous and most of the time they kind of get out of there. Sean O'Malley hit Cheevera with a knee that would have decapitated most people on planet Earth and Marlin looked like, you know, he sneezed maybe a little bit intensely. So yeah, I was impressed with what O'Malley was able to do and the pace he was able to keep and his commitment to the game plan. And yeah, I don't necessarily think that he needed a finish here to impress. So I was quite impressed. Yeah, never seen Vera stung like that, never seen Vera's face look like that after a fight.

I've never seen Vera look like that, dude. Like, Vera's face was not his face in that post-fight interview. Like, that was, that was rugged, man. It was rugged. It really was. What a performance from Sean. And, I mean, it was just kind of enjoyable to watch. Like, you see the evolution of his game, you know, with each of these fights.

And I think that's exactly what you needed to do. And yeah, Marlon did hit him at certain points. But like you said, Jed, he was able to bounce back. But I think one of the other big storylines was like, what was Sean going to do and he had a live microphone in his face? Because for a while it was, hey, I'm going to go fight Ryan Garcia in the boxing ring. Oh, no, I'm going to go fight Ilya to pour you. And then he said, you know what?

People are mad at that. So I'm just going to call it Marab. Like Marab is next. That's what we're doing. And what does he do, Jed Mishu? Live microphone. Joe Rogan 5044 calls out I'm ready to go to Spain

let's party let's rock if you need me to go knock out Marab like I guess I will but I want to go to Spain fight Ilya your thoughts on this you knew you you said if he had a certain type of performance

if he went out there and knocked out Cheevera and delivered a highlight reel you would not be thrilled with it but you would understand it more did this performance and that call out do you understand it does it make sense to you

what do you think it's just on the line of me not bitching about it because it's bad and the way he did it is partly why it's annoying because if I say it all the time Mike it's my favorite phrase

if you're gonna be a bear be a grizzly if you're gonna pursue Tupura just say that don't don't do the cop out I guess I'll fight mara no call your shot live your shot speak your truth

and own it. And if they make you fight one, then that's fine. You can fight them. But don't justify it afterwards. Like, just own it. It is not a bad callout because the sheer amount of responses I saw on social media from people in this industry who I know and respect, who gave it credence, by definition, means it's not a failed call out.

Because there was not an overwhelming backlash from smart people of, dude, buck on this do champ things. Like, you need to fight Marab. There were certainly some of that, but there were just as many people being like, it'd be a little too soon and I wish not, but I get it. That's a huge fight. And so it's not an unreasonable thing for him to do. I don't think it will happen.

And that remains my primary issue is I believe that it's going to be Marab. I think that he knows that it's going to be Barab. And he said that he will fight Marab and credit to him for that. But if you know that the fight is going to happen, it's probably better to, just commit to that and start building the fight that is likely for you. That being said, I do like the way he called out to Puria. Like, I think that that's a good way to do. It's like, hey, Dana, I'll fly to spill, like, buy me, take it to Spain.

Let's go do this thing and mic drop. So it's a mixed bag. It's reasonable. I still don't like it. I don't think they're going to go that way. He could have done better. But it's not all, it's not objectively bad. Mike work.

It's just not my favorite, not to my taste. I honestly did not hear anything Dana White had to say tonight because I was just doing a million other things I was trying to get back here so I don't I'm sure you can ask about the call-up. It's not Tuesday, Mike. He was asked about it until Tuesday. He was asked about it and did not seem interested.

Quite quickly said he does not think that Sean O'Malley moving up is like the next move. Pretty plain. Okay. So you feel like we're going to get Sean Amalley versus Maraduilis really next New York. And well, based on Dana's comments. Yeah, but also based on the fact that like, it seems like Sean O'Malley knows that as well.

Like I have to imagine if we were building toward Elliott Supporia versus Sean O'Malley, the UFC. And Sean O'Malley would have had a plan kind of discussed. Hey, what happens when we win this fight? Are we going in that direction? Because if they were, you could do worse business than that, right? Like I think we can all acknowledge that that that's a fight that I think a lot of people would pay for. So I have to imagine that he's not getting the vibes from the UFC. Dana White comes to the press conference and seems to not be giving the vibes.

And Sean O'Malley himself kind of hedges and says, like, I want that. But if it's Marab, it's Marab. I think everybody involved kind of knows that it's going to be Marab. Could circumstances change quickly and as they do in this sport? Definitely. If all of a sudden, and Dana White was also asked about Spain and said there was no update, if all of a sudden they've got an arena booked in Spain and they're looking for something. and Sean O'Malley is the best option for Iliot-Toporio at that moment.

I could see a world where plans shift. But sitting here right now, post-299, it does not seem like that's going to be the fight. Although I would definitely, like Jed, I'm not going to gripe too much about that fight if it happens. But I would prefer to see Marab. I've changed my mind. I'll gripe mainly just because of the timing, because if they're doing it in Spain, it's not going to happen forever. and that's shelving two of the three best weight classes or four best weight classes in the sport for

interim titles baby roll them out let's go let's let's not what if we don't what if we've done enough of that what if we just have champions defend their titles against credible contenders that'd be terrific right what sport is this so is this what world is that also I'd be a lot more interested or like I'd be not a lot more I'd be more accepting of it, except for the fact that like,

this is an incredible performance from Amali. I'm taking nothing away. I still think Deporia kills him. So like, we should just not do this yet. I didn't think that going in, but maybe this will come up later. Maybe I should save it,

but I'll just say it now. I saw vulnerability. Like, I was impressed with the performance, but I definitely saw if Cheeto had stepped on the gas a little bit more at times where O'Malley was crowded and somebody like Iliot's Aporia could do that. I saw some moments of vulnerability

and it made me shift my opinion a little bit that I do think Ilya I might be a load for Sean O'Malley to handle. I just think Iliot kills like everybody within a general weight class of him that's not, like three dudes at lightweight that I don't think he would kill and that's it. He's also just such a far superior grappler. Like, it's a real...

He's an enormously superior grappler, and he is not a small man. Like, Sean O'Malley is not, is a big 135er. I think he will not be big. No, I think you'd be long at featherweight. I think he'd still have some real physical gifts and be able to put on some muscle and not drain himself in a cut. So there is some intrigue to me with that fight. I can't deny.

I can't lie. If he's going to put on muscle, great. But then that means he's not coming to 135. And that's okay. If he wants to move up to 1.45, I'm open. Very open to that. Yeah. Anyway, derailed. But yeah, I was more confident on O'Malley side.

And then I saw this fight and thought, impressive performance. Cheetos a tough out. But I saw some things that I do think somebody like Iliot Toporia, who is an apex predator, would be able to take advantage of. Plus, it would just be sick to have that fight in like a year, two years, you know? let him get a couple defenses under the belt because Mike you haven't asked this question but I'm just going to take us right there

this fight makes me think Sean O'Malley has a legitimately real chance to beat Maraub a month ago I did not believe that I was like yeah no Bob's just going to run over whoever it is because he cannot be stopped I firmly believe that I don't know that I would pick him yet I want to take a little more time and digest

but this is a type of performance even though it's against a guy guy who is limited and does not fight at all like Marab. It was so impressive. He continues to accelerate his growth on a good timeline. And I'm like, okay, he really can beat Maraub. And then if he beats Marab, you know, maybe he fights Corey Sandhagan. He beats Corey Sandhagen.

I'm a little more open to now seeing that fight, assuming Tupori still has the belt. That fight is bigger. That fight is way more meaningful than this ramshackle sort of thing that he's trying to put together at this moment. Yeah, the Moran fight is much more interesting now than I think most people thought it would be like a year ago. Like it's like night and day, 1,000 percent. And I'm pretty sure that's the next fight we're going to see as well. But as great as this performance was, Jessica's shouting on New York, Rick. It sort of pales in the storyline comparison to what Dustin Poirier did tonight, New York, Rick,

taking on the thunderous Benoit Santini, who was just a killer out there in that first round. just kind of bullying around Dustin Porre. Dustin was having moments, jumped Gilly multiple times. We're getting flashes of the old DP, jumped like eight Gilly attempts in round one, another 12 in round two. But then when it mattered most,

when the hands started flying, the rawness of Benoit Santini appeared, the defensive vulnerabilities appeared that we knew were kind of there, but he was just so tough for his own good. Porre lands the big shot. BSD hits the canvas real. hard and then lands just maybe the most violent follow-up knockout shot you'll see at 155 all year

Dustin Porreier as Dana White said the one thing I saw just because of the clip that was on a MA fighting is the stuff that makes you a freaking legend does it not New York Rick what a performance in DP your reaction I think it just adds to the legend status right I think Dustin Porier is one of those guys that will likely go down unless unless I'm mistaken will likely go down as like the best to never hold an undisputed title. And along the way of that career, along the way of chasing that greatness and not quite grasping the undisputed title, capturing an interim title, but also putting on some of the most exciting fights we've ever seen in the UFC or in MMA or in combat sports and just

having a highlight reel that is going to be one of the best ever, like just an insane body of work. So yeah, I think he's just at this point like the legend status, the effing legend. status is so cemented that it's almost like you don't even have to address it, but he continues to kind of add to it every single time. As far as the matchup itself, like shout out to Jose Youngs, who saw this plain as day coming and just basically boiled it down to the age old, like, Dustin Porrier is going to throw straight and Benoit is going to throw hooks and he's going to be faster to it. And he threw straight and landed while Benoit was swinging kind of wildly.

they both also kind of seemed pretty beaten up and slower by the time the finish came in that second round. It seemed like it had taken something out of them, the exchanges in the first and certainly Benoit doing the better kind of work there and controlling Porier. But I think Porre was crafty enough to kind of keep himself safe. But they both seemed like they were slowing. And at that point, it just became a slop fest. And when Benoit's wing in that, Dustin's going to be able to take advantage of it. He was the superior technician coming in. I don't think there was any surprise about that.

I don't think there's even a surprise about the way it kind of happened. But it did look early like Benoit was going to do what Benoit does, which is just be a bull, just be a tank and come forward and overwhelm Dustin. But Dustin did what Dustin does, which is survive that. and then kind of even in what he's always been good at that you don't see a lot is in the moments of the chaos, he's still able to keep his composure and throw back, not just like throwback shots to push people away, but throw back like fight ending shots, which is a true skill, like something that he obviously is adept at and makes him one of the warriors that we love. But yeah, I mean, I've spoken enough. Dustin Porre is the freaking man.

Like I love him to death. And I hope he does this forever. What a turn of events in round two from round one, Jed. I mean, I think we knew Dusta would face some adversity. I thought Ben Wassonni was going to rip Dustin Porre's arm off of his body at the end of that first round. That looks real nasty. But then Porre was able to kind of like squirrel his way out of it and then just kind of gave the thumbs up like, nah, uh, give the DeKembe finger wag. But I really thought like he was about to take his arm home with him.

But Poria survives, advances. and then delivers another, again, we're in March, and we already have like another CO of the year candidate, this one coming from Dustin Porre. The man delivered, Jed, yet again. It was awesome. Go back to when this fight was announced and we did a react. And my initial answer was Dustin Poirier is a crazy person

for taking this fight. And then I was like, but then I thought about it. And it's actually brilliant of him because he can win this fight for all the reasons that all of us kind of realize, like, oh, BSD is good. He's still very raw. He is four or five years in his MMA career, which is incredibly impressive when you put it in those terms of where he's at and what he did to Poyer in that first round. But he still makes a ton of mistakes.

Poyer is very clean. It was great because everyone was right in that fight. The people who thought Poyer were going to get knocked out were incorrect, but everybody else was correct. Because that was both sides of the fight I thought could happen. I just didn't anticipate it to be that way where both men got to do. the thing. It's like, yeah, Ben Wonson, and he's a tank. He can eat a ton of shots and he did. He ate hammers in the first round and was just like, whatever, I was going to keep charging forward. Somebody put up a stat on Twitter and I didn't look at, like, I don't remember who it is

or sorry about this. I'm really bad at this. It should be better at it. Where it's like, yeah, Poria connected on like 80% of his power shots in the fight because BSD has no defense. And to his credit, I would think that I wouldn't need it either. Because if you watch the halacious beating that Zalescu de Santos put on him up at Welterweight. If I'm him and I survive that, I'd be like, yeah, I can't be killed. Frankly, Malin, Malinvara should have had a little bit more BSD in him in that main event. Might have done a little better. He's like, I can't be killed.

I'm going to walk into your biggest punches and just hunch you down. He did that and then he was dominating the grappling because Porre kept jumping the keyitines. I was like, oh my God, this is exactly the things I feared for Porier. I have a bet on Porreier. He can win if he just stops doing the dumb thing, but he's a meme fighter in a lot of ways. It's great.

And then the second round was like, oh, here's how Poria can win, doing these things. So everyone was right. The fight was unbelievable. It's probably your fight of the year right now. Maybe it's not. I mean, there have been some decent ones, but it lived up to the hype in so many ways.

And we got the outcome most people wanted. BSD's young, very early in his career. He's still got time to come back up the lightweight division. and he is going to be popular because of the way he fights. And I've spent all week comping him to young Justin Gaci. Guess what? The Porier fight and the Eddie Alvarez fights are what got young Justin Gaci to learn how to defend himself and become who he is now. The same thing will happen with BSD.

He's now been gotten. He now knows, okay, I can't just hauss everyone. I'm going to have to develop a little bit more. He'll be back. And Porier's right here. Mike, we talked about it a lot this week. we're doing on to the next one so I don't want you to give anything away I don't mind giving this away I believe that Dustin Porreier aside from punching his ticket into our hearts and chests and we love him so much I think he's getting the title shot

that's not going to go well Islam's going to kill him but the timeline it lines up the best for him I thought that there was a chance matush gamrock could get it if we if we do talk about that fight I loved it but it's not a fight the matush gamrock gets a title shot off of Porre is beloved. Poir is one of the biggest stars in the company, and the guys fighting at 300 are not going to be able to turn around in six, seven weeks to fight Islam in June. Forier comes out of this pretty clean, should have time to recover,

and then get back into camp and get one more crack at undisputed gold, which is the thing he wants. So, I mean, he is the biggest story out of this, despite the fact that Sean O'Malley had the best performance of his career in the main event. Oh, Dustin's the guy. He's the, if there's like a tier, if there's like an MVP in the card, it's Dustin Porte, without a doubt. He's legitimately like the third biggest arm in the UFC. Yeah.

If you count Connor as one still. Like, it's unclear if Connor it still should count. If not, he's higher. I don't know, I don't know about that, but he's, he's one of their guys for sure. Who would you put over him? I'd put Connor John on, Conor John, Islam. Um, maybe Islam and maybe to I don't think I don't think Islam's a maybe.

I think Islam's a pretty like yeah. And I think Alex to Alex Pereira is a maybe. Um, I think. I think Alex Pereira is having a moment and great. Okay, I'll accept Islam. I just looked, Islam has 8 million Instagram followers. Islam's a yeah. Islam's like a no doubt.

Islam's a yeah. Islam's a yeah. I'm not confident I accept Pereira. Pereira is just beloved now. Sean O'Malley. Sean O'Malley. I do not believe. Headlines are that that Dustin is on the billing.

Like, I think that pretty obviously is because he has a. That's because he is a belt. That is not stardom. I'm firmly of the camp that Sean Amalley is popular. Sean O'Malley is not quite. What are we measuring stardom then if it's not popularity? The ability to draw pay-per-view buys. I've long been a proponent that Instagram followers are not a pay-per-view metric.

I don't think, I don't think Dustin is like that guy. I don't. I don't think Sean is either. I agree with you. No, but like, I agree with you. I think, I think Sean will surpass Dustin probably because he's got like he's just getting here basically. But I would say that Porier is a top five star in the company. And so you're going to, they're going to let him fight Islam because why not?

Sure, he doesn't deserve it. I don't agree with this. But I'm not going to. push back anymore because I love them. So I will let you continue. He wasn't fighting Max. This wouldn't be a question. But Gatium actually will be seven shades of shit out of each other at 300. They're not turning around to fight in June. Maybe if Syruki and just dummies Olivera, but even then if your choices are, Sarukian, who is good or Dustin friggin Porier, I think they're going Dustin, man. Islam knows ball too. Islam knows what he's doing. Islam

tweeting afterwards to DP being like, hey, impressive performance. Islam knows ball. He knows what's up. I think we're all in the same page here. It's going to be Dustin and Islam, no doubt. It's great. Yeah. If Islam is fighting in June, Dustin's in the driver's team.

It's going to be awesome. All right. But what a performance from DP and tremendous stuff. We'll take some fan questions, but I do want to touch on what we saw on the feature about. New Yorkerick will begin with you. Michael Venham Page makes his UFC debut. A lot of intrigues surrounding this fight. It takes on Kevin Holland.

I think this is perfect matchmaking, perfect introduction. And you can say a lot of things about Kevin Holland and his fighting style. But it's very rare you see Kevin Holland like completely flustered and frustrated. And MVP left him like that for like the entire second half of the fight. Never see that look in Kevin Holland's eyes. Even when Wonderboy was kind of beating him up and he had a. broken hand. Holland was still having a good time out there,

still trying to show some shades of positivity. MVP left him with none, and MVP had him with some big shots and goes to wins a 29, 28 decision. So, waiting like seven or eight years for MVP to make his UFC debut, now that he's had it,

how do you grade it? A B? I think he did what he needed to do. People's Octagon debuts are often not like great. There's, you know, octagon jitters is a thing he mentioned like in his post fight he didn't quite say octas even though he was asked about that terminology he said i didn't feel like myself i wasn't in my in my rhythm um and it looked that way right like it looked like in the flashes of of brilliance that he did have

that was the MVP that we've seen before um but then there were moments of kind of just not looking right and kind of sitting back and and waiting for things that weren't happening um But I'm not going to grade too harshly. First, first fight in the UFC, Kevin Holland, a ranked fighter, did enough by far to get the win in my opinion. So, yeah, I mean, B seems right for MVP. I wasn't, like, disappointed with the performance. I also never thought, like, MVP was going to come in and be a world beater. So I guess that kind of, like, tempers my expectations.

Like, I thought he's going to be a guy who comes into this division is going to be competitive with some of the top guys as long as they're willing to strike with him. and he'll have some fun moments and I think that this fight delivered those moments in spurts and was good enough so yeah B for MVP which you're great Jen I would have given him an A until I found out that just a ton of people

hate the shit out of him like I know that there's like a little cult of MMA weirdos who are like he's never fought anybody good and he's bum and like a lot of that's true he really has not fought good opposition, the best duty he ever fought killed him. But he's fought fine people and mostly he's styled on bad people, which is what you would like to see people do. But the reaction afterwards, like from other fighters, it feels so ingrained of like Bellator fighters suck.

He beat the shit out of Kevin Holland tonight. Like it was, maybe it wasn't perfect and he acknowledged it there, like Rick said, he had some issues. It wasn't quite there. but like Kevin Holland was in no way competitive in that fight, but for the one moment when MVP ripped doing something a little dumb, and Holland was gifted top position and hit him for a few minutes, and then he scrambled out and proceeded to continue beating the shit at Kevin Holland. Here's the thing, people, you cannot like, because he played a belt,

I don't care, I'm not here to tell you need to like MVP, but there are some people, people that work for this website even, Mike, who were like, oh, I was trying to. ass performance. And you know how I know that's not true? Because when have you ever seen Kevin Holland fight someone and shut the fuck up? Because I haven't. That dude is talking to anybody. And

I respect the hell out of him because I model myself after that sort of indignant shit talking even when you're getting your ass handed to you. I want to be that dude and Kevin Holland is that dude. He will sit there and be like, oh, why you wrestle me? Get up and strike. Ah, you hit like a girl or whatever. And you know what he was doing that fight?

Shutting the fuck up and getting hit my right hands. Like, I don't know what else you wanted from MVP other than a flying switch kick knockout. Kevin Holland's real tough, man. This is his UFC debut, and he beat the hell out of him. I thought it was a very good performance given the circumstances. Yes, it was a favorable matchup, but like, if you're asking for more than that or calling that a bad performance, which many people are doing, that's just hating. Like, there's just no, is MVP the best world to wait in the world? No, I would say very clearly not. Are there several people in this weight class

who will just catch him with the right hand when he leaps in from 10 feet away to throw his own punch? Yeah, there are a couple of dudes who will do it. But you know who isn't one of those? Leon Edwards. Leon Edwards throws four punches around. If they make that title, they honestly could, and it wouldn't be the worst thing ever,

particularly because Shafcott got called out by JDM, that fight immediately got people talking. there's probably going to be some build for that and they hate B'all. If he just snakes it in there for the return to England and they do Leon versus thing, it's not going to be a huge blowback. And he has a really good chance to win that because Leon will just not do anything for huge stretches of that fight. So like, I don't know what you guys wanted. I thought that's about as good of a debut performance as he could have.

And it just feels like everyone's hating him for various reasons that aren't fair to what he actually did in the cage. Yeah, I was, I was pretty impressed. Kevin Holland's tough son of him. He's just tough. He's unbelievably tough. His chin is unbelievable. He got hit with some thunder. Like MVP was cracking him.

He's another one like Cheeto that really wears damage super well and can make the toughest of shots look pretty insignificant. You know who stopped Kevin Holland? He's been, he has been submitted a few times. he's been knocked out once. It was the Wonderboy TKO where he wasn't knocked out at the end of four rounds of that kind of ass

kicking his corner the fourth round. It is very possible that the same thing would have happened. They were like, dude, Kevin, your body language is dead. You look sad out there. You're just getting clubbed around like a small child. Like, we're

done with this. Like, I don't know what people wanted from MVP other than for him to hoodooking him out of the cage. and throw a polka ball at him. Like, I truly don't know what the expectation was. Yeah, I thought it was great performance. I think it was B plus, A minus for me. Yeah, I don't think there was anything negative to say, to be honest.

I don't think there was like some hugely positive sentiment. Yeah, I don't know. I can't speak for them, but I came away just not overly impressed, right? Like, I wasn't like jumping out of my seat. Like, this is the guy. Like, all of a sudden he came in and it's going to change the UFC. but I was also like, yeah, good performance against a guy who's ranked in the UFC and has looked good against good fighters.

Fun addition to the weight class. Happy to have them here. Agreed. Kevin Holland's probably like a top five Walter Wayne Bellator right now. So it's a quality win. It's a quality win. So I mean, this is like either the best or second best one if MVP's career. Oh, it's up there.

It's definitely up there. A great win for Jack Della Madelana, comes from behind, needed a finish, got it in the third round against Gilbert Burns. It looked like Gilbert Burns. I have to go back and rewatch that third round. When you're doing the watch party, you can't watch things super close. But J.D.M. just gets it out, lands the knee from hell, and just eviscerates Gilbert Burns. My one qualm about that fight more than anything, and there's some things I can say about Gilbert's performance and maybe just some of the decision-making. I don't know who that referee was,

but they wanted to see Gilbert Burns, like, eviscerated. Because that was bad. Like, that fight could have been stopped after the knee. Yes? Who was the ref on that? I was just saying who was the ref on that? I think he had some fight. I think he had some fight left him in him after the knee to his credit.

I mean, God, like, that was one of the nastiest shots of the night, and there was a lot tonight. But I do think it went on a little too long. But I wouldn't have ended it right after the knee. I thought he had enough defense in there. He was trying to grab him. But some of those were coffin nails after that. And yeah, he took a few shots.

But I think, you know, it aired slightly maybe on the side of too long. But JDM, man, what a knee that was. Did you ever do guys see the scorecards for that? Was he down at that point? Yeah. Yeah. He's down 2018 on two of the cards. So he needed a finish.

That's how I had it. I had Burns winning the fight. 2018. So yeah, what a performance, especially in that type of scramble to just have the wherewithal and the presence of mind to land exactly the shot that you need in that moment because oftentimes it's not that picture perfect. Real, real gritty stuff from JDM. Yeah.

And the timing of everything was perfect. My biggest bet of the night was that fight going over two and a half at plus 137. And boy, boy, we were sniffing some close ones. And we got it. then you should be a big fan of Dan Merglietta. Dan helped you hit that over. What was the actual number? I think we surpassed it before the knee.

Oh, 3.43. Okay. I thought it was tight in that at 3.43. He passed it. So I was pretty happy about that. I was holding a go with Burns ticket as well, but that wasn't the big one. But the over two and a half was like by far my biggest bet of the night. It would have been a really tough night had that not hit.

But it did. So shout out. Great performance from GADAM. What a performance from Peyoteur Yon. Snaps the losing streak. Great performance. Song Yidong has proven time and time again that he can hang with the best dudes. He's just a step behind slightly of the Corey Sanhagans and the Peiator Yons of the world.

But song's real good. That was a fun-ass fight. That was the perfect main card opener. And Peiardion back in the wind column, you could see. about 80 pounds of weight being lifted off of his shoulders after that third round. Good stuff. Good stuff. Curtis Blades gets a big knockout.

A lot of other stuff happened tonight. But let's go to the peeps. I'm sure they're going to want to talk about all of it. Macy Barber gets a win. Titch Gamrock gets a win. Kyler Phillips. Great performance against Pedro Munoz. Philippe Lindsay, Juan Guzzalaba did a thing called a fight.

Michelle Pereira. First round submission. Rebells to Spain. My grown adult son. I love it so much, Mike. Mr. Deft Touch. Annes and Joanne Wood ends her career with the victory.

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Enjoy a Coca-Cola for a pause that refreshes. All right. Hi, everybody. Hi, everybody. Of course, super chatters get to cut the line, so keep that in mind. And we got a super chat from our friend, Super Samo and an eagle team. This guy's always coming through. What a beautiful night, boys.

Mike, the timing of the dust and finish is epic for your bets. Yes, it was. Cast on JDM, MVP Porier by KO. stakes for me and the wife. Nice. Well done. Yeah, congratulations. Love that. Yeah. Where you go? Super small legal team. Mattaya, looks like Dustin secured himself a title fight.

Justin Charles and Armand are all busy. Also, Sean's point fighting is better than Izzy's in my humble opinion. Master class performance. Thoughts on this? Yeah, definitely seems like he secured himself a title fight. I think that's subject to change, right? If Justin Gachey or Max Holloway come out and have a better performance, I think there's a world where they definitely can hop the line. I think it would be harder for Charles and Armin, but at the same time, I don't think they're out of it.

They're going to have to do better than Dustin though. And they're going to also have to come out of that fight on skate. You're going to have to not hurt. So, yeah, Dustin's in the driver's seat, but it's Dustin's to lose. And then Sean's point fighting is better than Izzy's. I don't know. I don't know what to make of this. Wait, wait, are people saying that was point fighting tonight by Sean O'Malley?

Is that, is that, is that the worst? That's my comment. Sean was super not point fighting tonight. That was not point fighting. Absolutely point fighting in his career. That was super not point fighting from Sean. That was, I don't know. Yeah, people's definitions of point fighting are odd.

Did you hear the sound of Sean's, did you hear the sound of Sean O'Malley's knee hitting Marlin Bear's face? Like, I'm not going to be able to get that sound out of my head for like a week. that was when I knew that I was correct and that Marlon Verre can't be killed by man nor God it's like oh yeah he's good he ducked into a jumping knee and was like we're fine moving on

Jed you did you picked Vera going you picked Vera coming into the fight what was missing from Verre or what did or was it just a discipline from Amali that kind of surprised you I want to give him a Mali the credit primarily because I do think that that was the biggest thing is if he's going to fight

smart I don't think Vera optimized his chances he's always a slow starter but like when I wrote my breakdowns like it's really key that he try and start faster and that he invest heavily in kicking the legs and working the body. O'Malley has very good head defense in general and he's just going to move a ton and if you can slow that movement down and get him to stand in front of you then that's how you can start landing your shots. And I thought, again, I was pretty clear. I think this is 50-50. I'm leaning towards Vera because I've never seen Sean fight this way for 25 minutes. And until I see it, I'm just not going to totally believe that it'll happen. Now it has, and I can totally believe that it can happen. But Vera got away from sort of everything. And he did the Vera thing.

He did the thing we talked about, where he just, like, didn't do anything for a long periods of time in that fight. A lot of that, I do want to give credit to Amali for not. letting him do it. But, you know, when your coaches are telling you, hey, man, like, you got to start picking this up. You got to like, okay, like, stop just shelling up every time he throws at you. Just take it and fire back. Like, this isn't working. And he's just not doing the things he's being told to do. He can be a frustrating watch at times. And there were definitely parts of that that I think are just built into Tejito Vera that were not specifically put upon him by O'Malley tonight. All right. Thank you.

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Jesus well the rank squatting at 155 stop after tonight also what is Jackie three names his future because he still looks like he would get destroyed by high level wrestlers like shopcott which was a dumb callout all right so a lot to break

down here. We'll start. He loaded a lot in this $10. I mean, look, it's worth the $10 there. I mean, get three questions. I don't even. Go ahead. Go ahead.

You go. I was just going to say, Stephen, the rank squatting, this was the official end of it. It had been stopped. Gaei fought back against Fisiev. We started to see it like, yes, technically Chandler is still sitting there, but he doesn't count because he's never going to fight again because he's never going to fight. to Connor fights and Conner's never to fight again.

Oliver is fighting Suruky and Surruci and just got to fight. Whoever the hell he just beat the hell out of. I don't know why I'm blank. Oh, Derrush. Like they've been turned 155 is past this. Corier and Gauche were fighting for what we thought was a number one contender fight. There is no there is no squatting at what a lightweight. It hasn't been happening.

Well, there was. There was. There was squatting. No, not recently. The last like a year and a half. Yeah, the last like a year and a half, it's been good. What has happened? The old dudes are still hanging.

Yeah, and Volcanovsky was sliding into the title shots. So it wasn't resolving itself. But that's, that's what was happening. The contenders at Lightweight have been fighting the contenders at Lightway recently. There's not been that kind of log jam that we see at like Welterweight, where nobody wants to fight anybody and they're just sitting around. The old dudes are just winning because they still got game. will jdm get destroyed by shopcott yeah yeah probably like that doesn't seem like a great matchup for jdm but probably most people will get destroyed by shopcott like i'd like i'd still like to see it like

because i think jdm's pretty damn good um and if he can find something like he found tonight where it did look like hey maybe you know this is a level above and then it wasn't when it and when he had that moment it wasn't. So I would like to see it even if I even if I do believe that that Shavkat is going to win that fight. But again, I think Shavkat destroys most of these people. So it's not it's not an indictment. My favorite thing about J.D.M. tonight is I finally figured out he's just welterweight Porier. He has got great boxing and at various points in time he is doing just freaking next level stuff out there that most dudes aren't and it's awesome. and then like four times of fight, he's going to do the dumbest thing he possibly can.

And he doesn't jump the gillies, but he does try a freaking wizard kick with a full backpack for no goddamn reason that just lets Gilbert move to a backpack. Like it is he will a couple of times of fight, he's going to make a horrible choice. And it's just like, you're Dustin Poria, just a welterweight. This is great. We love to have another Dustin Poree. It's terrific. He's fun fighting. he'll probably look great against shopcott for moments and he'll do something really dumb and suddenly

shotgun's going to bulldog joke his ass unconscious i actually love the call out i like it i like the call out too because if you lose hey you lost the guy you were supposed to lose to if you win holy moly so i don't mind it no one's calling that dude out and if you're going to fight him fight him now like take the shot see what happens and if you want he's the guy right now like he's the guy right now like Bilal's probably going to get the title shot, but like, Shafkat's next in line. Like, Shafcott could sit out weight if you wanted to, but Jadam's trying to give a name of fight. Love it. That's why this makes so much sense is because, you know, lightweight is moving.

Walter Wight is not. And you can get Shavkat right now. It's a great call out. This is the, this is how you propel yourself into that upper echelon while we wait for Balal, while we wait for whatever else happens. So yeah, I love it. It seems like in the absence of like, I don't think Colby Covington is signing up to maybe, maybe he would fight.

I don't know. I don't know who Colby Covington's going to fight. It doesn't seem like there's really many good options for him other than Wonderboy. I like to fight for him. You do? I don't like that for him. I mean, I mean, sure. I mean, sure.

I mean, I think it's like the most high profile fight he can realistically get right now. Because Ian brings, sure. Ian brings attention. And if Colby's ever going to get like bad. and the good graces of fans in any way shape or form, you should probably go ahead and fighting Gary right now. If he takes it, I'd be shocked, but I'm okay with it.

But yeah, I mean, either way, I love this call out. Go for it. Try it. And to Casey's point, you know, it's a good call out. Full short, whatever. Yeah. Here's how it's a good call out. People got interested.

People immediately, there's a media like, oh, hell yeah. Like, you call out Colby, people were just like, all right, call on Colby. It's like, oh, no, hell yeah, that's fun. That's a great call out. I think we always, in general, we always like when the guys called out the guy, no one wants to fight. And even if they don't get that fight. 100%.

Even if they don't get the fight, it just seems pretty cool. I don't know. I think every time you call it the guy, no one wants to fight, we're like, yeah. So, yeah, great, great call it out. Yep. All right. Thank you very much. Thanks, guys.

It's 430 a.m. Freaking daylight savings time. I can't believe. It's 3.30. It's fine. It's still 1.30. It's still 12.30 where I'm at. Still 12.30 where I'm at.

Oh, my God, dude. Your clock doesn't switch until your time. Oh, wow. That's crazy. You're four hours. You guys. Yeah. I'm so far.

You're living in the past. Yeah. Like back to the future. Like my hands are and disappear. All that. Yeah. All right. Super chat.

Kind of a bit of the same question. A bit of the same. question before. I think we kind of answered this a little bit. Thoughts on Gd.m's trajectory. How is he going to how is he going to get on against the Rachmanos and Ian Garry's

of the world from Sam Flatt? I think he's right up there with all those guys right now. So, I mean, the Shafcott's a different level right now, but. Yeah, I think he'd fare a lot better against Gary than he would against Shafcott, but I mean, those are all great fights. Let's run all of them.

Sure. And he's importantly, he's 27. Like he's not even that is prime. Like he's still going to develop. Now, granted, Gary and Shafcott are both fairly young as well. But he's going to fight for about one day. All right. Thank you, Sam.

10-dollar super chat from Stephen. Let's go. Stephen. This is a, I'm just going to put it up. I'm not sure what it means. Is this same Stephen? Oh, it's everyone. Desmond, Stephen.

Boys, I have three opinions. Perfect. Super chat. And I am, I am, I am waiting to hear your opinions, Stephen. I am wrapped with attention for your opinions, Stephen. Super chat. Unless the game is we're supposed to guess your opinions.

No, no. No, they're coming. He's going to super chat them one by one and we will address them as they come in. Perfect. Another $10 super chat from our friends, our best friend, Stephen. Oh. There he goes. Boys, I'm back.

New York Rick need shampoo suggestions. Furthermore, how many fights do you? think RDA has left and who? I guess I'll go first. Been a head and shoulders, guys, since childhood. Like, it's just regular head and shoulders for me. You know, I wash it. I wash it nearly every day.

The most I'll go is every other. I will not, I will not let it go beyond that. Head and shoulders, good massaging into the scalp. And then a double, I do a double. We're taking another dollop and we're going back in and doing it twice. So, yeah, head and shoulders, baby. Shampoo and conditioner all day. Rick, you are overwashing your hair, my brother.

Listen, it's been working for me, right? Can't wash it every day. You got to let it breathe a little bit. Condition every day. I'm, I can't. I'm sweating. I'm sweating. I'm working out.

I cannot, I cannot just let that go. I can't. I can't. I mean, that's what the professionals say. I'm not a hair scientist. I just do what they tell me. Yeah, I'm bucking the trend. I don't care what they say.

Sorry. Also, onto the RDA question. No, we're not done. We're not done. All right. I know it's four 30. What are your thoughts about the shampoo? Mike,

Mike didn't hear. Well, that's what RDA. Who me? Who me? Who me? I thought Casey was going to answer. I was waiting on him. I mean, dude, shampoo hits my head every single day.

I don't know why, but it does. My man. Every single day, sometimes twice a day. It's very possible. Friday was a twice a day air, for sure. RDA probably used shampoo as well, probably every day. New York, Rick, after he shampoo. and he looks himself in the mirror and asks himself the question, how many fights do I have left?

What do you think he's saying? I don't think he has like a time frame on it. He strikes me as the type who's really just going to like go by the feel of it. He doesn't seem like he's in a hurry to stick around or a hurry to leave. I think it'll just be when he runs out of opportunities that get him excited. Like I would think of him like a Paul Felder, right? Like Paul Felder, I think was like, okay, I've done it. I'm going to step away.

If there's something exciting that's going to get me to really like rev the engine again, I'll take it otherwise like I'm good. So I think RDA has got as many left as he thinks are still going to excite him and then steps away because like he's not climbing the rankings in lightweight. He's not climbing the rankings in Walter Waite. He's kind of going to be stuck in those divisions. And so if a big opportunity comes his way where he can step in on maybe short notice or just gets something that, you know, timing-wise works out for him.

He'll probably take it. But I don't think he's like fighting for belts anymore, nor does he have any legacy things on the line anymore. So as many as he wants is really my answer. Is he okay of being a stepping stone, basically? Because that's what he's going to be used as in the UFC. He's kind of been that already, no? Like, do we not feel like RDA has kind of been that to this point at the tail end?

He has his record's not being good. I guess a lower, now you kind of move back. Now you're top 15 stepping stone and top 10. I don't know. I mean, it's just, yeah, what he wants and how the UFC wants to use him. I'm sure he's not cheap by UFC standards. So. I don't know that it'll be a stepping stone.

He's just, he's been around so long and he's still good. Like he had great fight tonight. Like he lost in the way everyone expect him to. Gamrot is awesome. And he's the best bad fighter in the sport. I love him so much. He's terrible fighter, but he's so good at the parts he's good at, and it's incredible.

I mean, he's done that a little bit. Like he fought Fiziv, obviously, and gave Fiziva a shot up. But it's also just weird that he's ranked at lightweight, because he's ranked at lightweight because he was a champion a decade ago, and because he beat Paul Felder in that weird situation when Paul was ranked. And so he's just been kind of hanging onto it. For those reasons, it would be better if he just wasn't and can just do fun fights because he's still got a lot of game left, it looks like. And he should be doing the cool fun fights against dudes at, you know, 155, 170, catchweight bouts, whatever.

Like, he should fight Bobby Green at some point because why the hell not? I would love to watch him fight Dustin Poirier. That's not going to happen now. But if Poirier has a title fight and loses, hell yeah, do it then. Like just kind of do the get to do cool, fun fights because I still can compete and like to compete. So I'd bet he's got at least three left in him. Yeah. Is there any chance he ruins his legacy by kind of staying around too long?

His legacy is not like was the ultimate winner. His legacy is fought the toughest possible strength of competition for his entire career. And I don't think he's a different. Involversal with a belt. Yeah. And I mean, you're even looking at like, he's fighting Gamrot right now. Like the strength of competition has never gone down for RDA. That's the legacy.

The legacy is game guy who shows up every single time and really isn't diminished, right? Like his skills are not that far diminished. Like he seems pretty decent still. But he's just fighting the upper echelon. He's lost, I think it's seven of his last 11 because he's fighting really tough guys. There's an easier road to be had. for RDA, but he's fighting really tough guys. But yeah, he's not winning.

So I don't think he's hanging around to keep winning, you know, fights that may headline an Apex card or, you know, an Atlantic City card. So yeah, fun fights and then call it a career. It's been an amazing, incredible career. I'm just trying to think what are RDA and fun fights. What are they now? I don't know that. Jim Miller.

Jim Miller's great. Do it. After UFC 300, fight Jim Miller. So you think of vets. But RDA versus vet, you don't want to, okay, not. I don't care about him fighting young dudes. I guess that. I didn't care about this fight.

Yeah, I'd watch him fight young dudes because, again, I think he's competitive in all these fights. Like, he's not this guy who's, like, coming in there and getting his doors blown off, but he's also just not winning, right? Like, he's not building toward anything. So, no, there's no point to it. Like, we don't need him to be in that position. Okay. Thank you much. I got a super chat here from Matija.

Correct yourself, Sean's fighting is what Izzy should be doing with his attributes, long action striking while looking for a finish. Yep, there you go. Agreed. Sure. I don't have much of a problem with Israelisanya style. Yeah, that's, yeah. I've largely had one, but I also think that it's the natural evolution of this sport.

and I would strongly suspect that you give Sean O'Malley two years and if he's still holding the belt, he's going to look a lot more like that as well. It's just naturally how they can get them. Like game works. All right. Yep, these guys hand you wins, you take them. Let's see.

Shutting up like Holland now, Demolador look great. Yes, he did. Jed? My large adult son, boys and girls. I'm so happy for him. He's done the thing. me and AK were big DeMolador fans because he kept popping up. When we did Miss Fist together, he kept popping up.

And it felt like every other week we were just like, hey, he did this real weird capoeira shit. He did a backflip into guard that was cool as hell. I was like, this guy's an insane person and I can't wait for him. He's got to get signed by the UFC. He keeps doing crazy stuff and getting impressive wins. Finally gets the UFC, the first fight he does all the cool stuff. It's great. Then he loses to a puffed up featherweight in the worst.

performance ever because he just gassed himself out with back flips in the first four minutes. And then he changes his whole style up, loses a weird fight to Diego Sanchez because of the DQ, it's super odd and we're like, oh, maybe it's just not going to happen for him. He's become like, he's really receded into this like boring fighter. And then he finally stops making weight and he mumps up to middle weight. And it's like, oh, this is where he should have been the whole time. Now he's not concerned about blowing his casting. He gets to do crazy shit.

And I just want to be as clear as I possibly could be on BTL Mike what happened? You said what's your favorite fight of the thing? I was like it's not it's the co-main event obviously, but if I'm giving shine to any other fight, it's not pure yon songy dong it's not Michael Benham page Kevin Holland. No one else cares, but it's Michelle Paheta and Michaela Oaksaic because those two dudes are crazy people and it's going to be anarchy incarnate. And let me tell you for all four seconds of that fight, it was everything I ever dreamed of and it was sick-ass finish.

I'm so proud of him. Can't wait to see what DeMolador does in middleweight. I legit had no idea that he's on a seven-fight win streak. He's been doing so well since the Diego D.C. That's with the Sanchez DQ. Take away the Sanchez DQ. What is it, too? No, it's the Tristan Connolly.

The Tristan Connolly failure was immediately before the Diego Sanchez. Oh. Well, but truly, like, it's been such a weird kind of like up-and-due. down roller coaster ride that like I just had no idea that it's been so successful from a wind's perspective that like the dude is rolling 30 years old private his life coming into middleweight yeah and no hook no hooks rear necket chokes are my absolute favorite it's just hoss choking him yeah just disrespectful he manhandle them I like that's just disrespectful How dare you.

No, true, really impressive. I love Shaila Tchaek for what he does in this sport. He is a critical piece to it and that fight was exactly correct.

That was A plus Chef's Kiss matchmaking and it delivered. I'm so happy. All right. Super chat from Tomo. 1699, but New Zealand dollars.

I have no idea with the conversion. It's there. Hi, boys, you think, so we'll get title shot, and we do GDM versus Shafcott and Burns versus Brady, also Song versus Jan. First time, this is your podcast at work. Really appreciate the content. Thank you.

You like Burns versus Brady? I mean, that's, we've touched on the dust and title shot. Not really. Not really. Not really. Burns, Brady, not a fan? Not really. No, I think Brady should be fighting, like, the cream of the crop at Walter Wade at this

point like guys like you know ball all rematch will be good if balla doesn't get a title shot which it seems like nobody wants to give him um i'd watch brady versus jdm i'd watch brady versus gary if gary doesn't ultimately get colby like there's a lot of like those level of matchups that i'd rather see i don't think we need to do the whole burns fights every young up-and-comer guy like i think we're okay he's now lost the one to hamzat he's now lost the one to jdmdm if you consider Balal somebody on the rise at the time he's lost that one too so like I think we're okay on that now I don't love that fight yeah I'm trying to figure out who to book him against but for burns or weird burns because he does have like a high ranking are you still going to be like

five or six for the Ux give him Jeff Neil let's do Jeff Neal let's do Jeff Neal already not beat the hell out of Vicente Lucay let's just do that I'm fine with that yes that makes some sense guys coming out of losses I'd really like for them to be more invested in giving people get back fights though because he's two lost in a row just let him kill somebody who sucks I like I like judge's idea too he was all by the way he was also winning this fight like let's not you know let's not forget that he was beating jdm so I don't think it's like a situation where we're all trying to like shit on or bury Gilbert burns but like you know he's in a different phase in his career at this point and let's just like acknowledge that

It's just these are these are MMA fights small gloves got knees is just a crazy thing. I think if they fight 10 times Gilber might win five. It's just that's what we saw tonight. I'm going to tell you right now I'd watch go over into his top field of Sandros. Yeah. Be great. Dig it. Be great.

I mean, it doesn't make fun like you. That's great fun. RDA fun fights. That's what we're talking about. Headline Vpex you was 106. Let's do it. No, I know you got to put that on Brazil because at the rate they're going with them putting money money you're right 300 yeah you're not a Brazilian in the company there's no

person fight on that car all good call you're right just RDA burns in Brazil do that I don't know man all right uh what was the question about song versus Jan oh um is he just asking like they you're trying to match make just no they just thought they can't matchmake song versus John it's good fight he just fought Yeah, we touched on the fight. It's great. It was great for a good fight. It was a super fun.

We didn't have to be five rounds. We actually haven't talked a lot about that, so we probably should because. Okay. Pureen, like, that was, that was a terrific performance. I love watching Peter Yon fight. Oh, it was just. He's, he's got the deceptively worst recent record that I can think of. Like, it just looks real bad on paper.

But it's not. It's not. Well, man, that dude is still really freaking good. Like, it just looks horrible. If you were lost night, you'd be like the greatest fighter ever on a four fight losing streak or whatever.

By far. This Andreolowski erasure will not stand. Yeah. No, Peter I'm not. He's still a dog, man. He's still a beast. And so was song. It's just.

Love it. Yeah. It needed to be five rounds, though. Like, I did not want to see. I would appreciate five rounds, but. I said this on the come up for Purion. and I think that it is born very true. Once he got past the three-round phase of his career

and was going to be fighting in main events and for the title, I was like he is a handful because he punts the first round in every fight he ever competes in. He is just not going to win it ever. And in a three-round fight, that is so dangerous because then your opponent has to win three minutes of the rest of the fight.

And credit to him, he did not allow song to win three minutes after the first round, but he got to get back to main events because somebody's going to like I would maybe not after this performance but like I would in general I would have picked Puriant to beat Sean Amalini a five rounder again after what Sean just did maybe I feel a little less confident in it but the reason I thought Sean had a chance to beat him when when they were fighting I was like Sean can win this because he has to win seven minutes and that's like you just can't pump rounds like that in three round fights it's so difficult. Oh, we have a correction real quick. Sorry, my song or Cheeto as far as the next match. Don't hate it. I assume Cheetos is getting Yon. That'd be fun.

Maybe. It's just fun. It's just fun. Cheetos still very popular. Does Yon, I feel like does Yon look further up though? Does Yon go? I don't know that Yon gets to make that call at this point. he's lost a lot of his like this is a great win but yon went with uh jedd's idea if o'malley lost

figgy garbrand winner could do that what do you mean dude figgy versus that's what yon said the post fight press just timelines line up perfectly he feels biggie and garbren are fighting at 300 he gets the winner of that figure eight o versus fiotr yon is the fight we all want anyway he's just that's quite what he's going to beat the hell on whoever that is He said they should be They should be lining up to fight him And he's he's kind of Is that what he said?

He wants to go on a revenge tour I think he's aiming at He's aiming at he's aiming at He's aiming at O'Malley and DeValjevili And he's not going to get those fights So yeah maybe there's a world where he lands on Garbrandt And uh Figgie but I don't know like

You could do Sehudo Here's the thing I pulled the VOSC ranking sense. The only dudes in front of in the UFC rankings are Sean, obviously, Marab, obviously, Aljo, that's not happening. And then Corey Sandagan, who already beat, I doubt he really wants to fight Corey again. And Cheeto's won behind him. I kind of think they're just going to run Cheeto. You could do Sehudo, but I think they're just going to run Cheeto. Yeah, it just depends. Yon's just trying. Before Cheetos is ready to go. That's for sure. I feel like there's a new, there's a new kind of like path for Jan, though. Like, I feel like he was kind of in a bad spot and now he's

kind of come out of that where it's like, would you, would you not watch Corey again if he was willing to do it? You know what I mean? Like, I think there's options for him where he can stay and float around the top and be one away, which is nice after you just come off a three fight losing skid. Corey has to lose to Umar. That's his destiny. Yeah. It seems like we're destined for that. Okay, dokey. Uh, got a super chat here from, um, I'll let Mike say his name. I can't figure it out. Hey, Hashi. Did you see the 350 pound guy in glory this morning?

I did not. Did anyone see a 350 pound guy in glory this morning? I did, yes. Heavyweight. I'm absolutely about to worse this up. Heavyweight kickboxers can be quite sloppy. It's not, it's not MMA. There's no, there's no weight limit on the upper, on the upper level.

So, yeah, heavyweight kickboxers can be. super heavy way for the win. Yeah. Is it a shredded 350 or is it like? No, it is absolutely not a shredded 350. Is it is it a 220 of an extra 100? Yeah, basically, yes. We're talking, we're talking short, squatty kind of dudes that have a gut and throw

haymakers, you know? God bless them. Anything? Glory was sick though. I don't know if anybody saw it. like one man one night tournaments are just amazing so it's all rooven won yeah verhoven won uh face some adversity which i think you know people were kind of not expecting i love this man so much oh i love this man so much

oh he's the best would you like to describe him would you like to let the viewers he's a circle yeah he's a big round man is the best and he's just just out here chucking him boys he's the man I mean he's getting just plunked but who cares he's out here chucking him this is like we all

I mean everyone watches fight circus is this like if blob tang actually had mits on him this guy rocks yeah circle and he's just two little gloves on the ends yeah but I mean he checks those little gloves you've got a big shield of belly

for all these knees that this man is firing into him he's beating their shit out of this dude it's awesome there was also some some truly like in shape athletic competition as well in that tournament uh so you didn't see it check out uh go bea hachab is he's my new largest adult son he's fucking rules is that s un or s o n uh uh uh s o n but it could be either i mean he's he's got some gravity to him that's what i was thinking This guy is awesome

All right Are we good Are we good talking about this man? Yeah Yeah Five in the morning Okay Another

Another chat Not for Casey Do we Dude it's like It's only 10 o'clock here It's more moving Oh yeah You're

Turn the clock back over It's just It's only Thursday The fights haven't even started Yeah what's going on What are you guys talking about No. All right. This is around when Anthony, Joshua, and Francis and Ghanu walk to the,

walked to the ring for their fight, you know? How is no one has a single question about Despani, to Spain, however we pronounce Robles' name. I mean. That guy's awesome, too. This guy's super fun. He nailed it 18 seconds. It's just, it's because it's too long of a fight.

He's used to only having like five second fights. I'm just a huge supporter of Josh Parisian's plan of. I'm going to run at this dude with my chin up and my hands down. That can't go wrong. That was like. What the fans wanted. That was like when I, that was the the wish.com version of Steepie versus Verdoom when Verdoom was like.

It was just so I got while it was happening. I wanted to yell. It was like, no, Josh. Don't do that. That is the, that is literally the worst that you could do. Just run at this man. Blasted Okay

Stephen I did not miss your super chat by the way Sorry We got some super chats from Stephen I got to throw them up there Because we've got to get his opinions He has three of them Why do you hide your guns

I see him popping out the screens Were you happier when there were no thirst For two titles Yeah I think our stance on two titles Has been made perfectly clear Stay in your damn division And run up wins Blame it on the UFC.

Yeah. Yeah. Blame in the UFC. Wait, and the two title thing. I really think the reason the two title things works so much in the UFC is because the UFC doesn't give out, it's my conspiracy theory. The UFC doesn't give out a belt for every championship. So like DJ, when he had those like nine, nine champions, nine title defenses, he only had like one bell. But then he got that one photo of all the belts.

and it looks freaking awesome. But now they just give out, you know, a little ruby. So you can win 10 times in a row or whatever, five times in a row. You just, you have the same belt of more like little red rubies. That doesn't look cool. The only way to get extra belts is by, you know, moving up and moving down. And just it just looks cooler in photos. So I think if they gave belts, like if Sean O'Malley had another belt tonight and he

walked around with two belts, you know, hey, I got two defenses. I got two belts. I don't know. Maybe we wouldn't be this crazy for this because it's just the image. I don't know. I like the, I like the thought process behind this and completely disagree and just don't think, don't think anybody's thinking about the photo op that much.

Dude, because I've been to show me, we've been to so many freaking boxing events and the shot of them carrying like 40 belts up there always look super cool. But Demetrius Johnson wasn't in the cage holding nine belts. That was one photo op that he did in this house because he had nine belts. He's in the cage with the one belt. It's always the one belt.

I know, but the photo, on the poster, every part of it. Just that it looks cooler. I mean, they can just ask the UFC to, like, let me borrow nine belts and to let me take a picture of nine belts. And they'll probably let him take a picture of nine belts. You think so? They broke the, they broke the seal with Conner McGregor. They just buy a belt for 40 bucks or whatever it is on the website.

They broke the seal with Connor McGregor, and they can't put the genie back in the bottle. That's all it is. The genie is never going back. And that's it's it. People like belts. It's the BMF, but the BMF belt. It's only cool because there's a belt.

I'm just saying. Dude. I have no issue to make history. I have no issue with people trying to make history and go fight for a second belt. But the reason most of these fighters do it, it's the prize fighter. I understand that. It's a prize fighter mentality where if I go up and take this chance, if I win, I win a second belt. But if I lose, I still get to fall back on this other title belt.

What you do is you take that away from. them and then it's cooler. You take that option away. You have to vacate. You have to vacate to go up. You want to go win a second belt in the second division. You vacate your other belt. There is no fallback plan.

If this is what you want to do, this is how it works. We put your belt is vacated. Top two dudes fight for it. You lose. You got to work your way back up if you were going to go back down to the weight class. That's it. That fixes the problems in my eyes. Absolutely.

I'll talk about Islam going up to 170. Vacate 155. go to 170. I don't give a shit, but vacate the other belt. I love that as a fan of the sport, but the UFC's contrived, like the contrivance,

the thing that the UFC is always trying to achieve is for the little man to win the second belt. So it defeats that. Like, that's always what the point is. The point is always for the smaller person to win so that they can have two titles. And the shot of two belts. They want the shot.

And the shot of two belts. Yes. The two belts, but not 10. Jones winning the heavyweight title became a champion. If John Jones was the light heavyweight champion. If John was the light heavyweight champion and heavyweight champion at the same time, it would be more significant, yes.

John won the heavyweight title? Yeah. When did this happen? Rumor has it. All right, we're going to fly from what I hear you're not a champion until you defend your belt. Dude, what was up of Rogan's heart? No, like, you don't do, you know how champion you eat your finger belt. I don't believe that, but I'm going to say it anyway.

And it was so weird. Like, that's how you started off. I'm like, all right. Good job, Rogan. Also, Sean O'Malley doesn't strike me as the type who feels like I'm not a champion until I've defended my belt. Of anybody. I respect it. I, again, I thought it was totally wrong, but I absolutely respected his post-fight presser who is like, I don't need the belt.

I am bigger than the belt. I'll fight dudes at 142. I don't care. It's like. That's a good mentality. Respect that. As long as they get paid that same, that belt money, though, I respect that. I will say, I will say as much that I love to, you mentioned Joe Rogan.

Joe Rogan delivered gold tonight during the main event. We got Anick. Oh, man. I love Anick, too. I love Anick so much, but man, Rogan got him. It was great. I might have missed it. John was like, yeah, so John was like, you know, Marlon Vera is a tough dude, but he's never been in there at the

sniper like Sean O'Malley and then Joe always like yeah he has and John was like oh yeah what he fought Cory Sandhagen or wherever he goes yeah and Sean O'Malley because they fought before yeah yeah yeah it was just so freaking good and Roeig just kept guessing for a minute and then yeah got it and this and DC was just waiting DC was just waiting in the wings for Joe to say it so that he could laugh at it, which is great. This was a clear brain part. Nanick was like, oh, yeah, I don't know what I, yeah. All right.

I got nothing. And it's like, yeah, my bad. That's funny. I didn't hear that part in the broadcasts. That's funny. We got a bunch of Stephen ones. I'm just going to fly through these real quick. Yeah, let's go Steve.

I love you, Steve. I love you, Steve. We got you. We got you. We got you. Mike, have a sleep. You're the best. You're the best.

I'm going to get some sleep. But it ain't going to be a lot because I'm back here in five hours doing another show with Jed. And last one from Stephen. Thank you, Stephen. Just want to apologize, boys. I had a big day. My apologies if I was rude. You were not rude.

No. We love you dearly. This is what we're here to do. Yes, Stephen. You just paid Mike Hex mortgage this month. So appreciate that. Oh, fuck. And congrats on your big day.

If it's related to this UFC, congrats. If it's not related to this UFC, congrats. We love that you had a big day. And just a couple more super chats from Skannab. 999. Think 300 can top that. Sure can. Yeah, I do.

It definitely can. It can, but I mean, it's not a given. That was a great night of fights. On paper, I still maintain 300 is better on paper. But that's a great night of fights. Like, we'll see if they can deliver to that. I would guess that they will. But we'll see.

It's definitely in play. The fights are just so good. It's definitely in play. Man, this is a fun conversation to even debate. So we're in a good spot. Hell yeah. Yeah. If we're thinking of that.

The opening fight is Davis and Figueroa versus Cody Garbrandt. A fight I have a lot of. wanted for literal years is the first fight on the card two former champions. They just added Turner and Moycano too. It's just like it just continues. It's still the dumbest fight. They just let Moikano fight. That's great.

Let him fight in Brazil. Come on. I love that. Oh, yeah. Fair enough. Good point. Okay. Too shy.

There are no Brazilians fighting on the Brazilian pay per view. Yeah. Just M.A fans. I don't love. I know New Yorkerick loves card placement. It's a favorite topic. But I got to tell you, Bo Nickel versus Cody Brundage on the main card just doesn't do it for me. I'm sorry.

It was so seeing all those names and then Cody Brundage? One of these does not be able. I get it, but I don't, I just don't, it doesn't need to happen. It's, it makes a ton of sense because Cody Brundage is falling in a long line of people who don't deserve to be in places, but they're there to get. people over do you remember when enrique martin or in reek marin like famously fought sage north cut at ufc 200 where on the card though on the prelands it was the prelims but still it's fine it was like the early prelims yeah no it was the mid prelimbs they gave sage or it's like the first fight of the mid prelims that might have been correct yeah it was early in the card all right um so our last super chat

when John Jones fought Jake O'Brien. UFC 100. I just pulled 100 up. Every car's going to have a worst fighter on it. Cody just happens to be the two Cody's are the worst fighters on the three. Oh, wow. Wow. Wow.

Geez. Spot the line. Spot the line. Wow. All right. Let's go to the last one. Well, actually, I lied a couple more super chats came in. So hold on.

We're just flying through these. Yeah. We got to go. We got to go. If you guys keep super chatting, we'll be here all night. I just want to be clear about that. No, we will not be here all night. I can tell you that right now.

MMA is life. Thank you. You guys rule. It is. MMA is life. It is our life. And our lives are better because of you. How about the champ keeps the belt?

But if you loses when going up, he has to vacate the current belt, but not if they win, if they win, they can keep both. It's the same type of gamble at that point. That's fine. As long as they lose the other belt, if they lose, then fine. I'm okay with it. Take the photo. Here's the reason you can't.

Strip them. Take the photo. But they don't get to fight for the belt. But they also don't get to fight for the belt right away at the other way class. That's the most critical part because if they do, then they'll just like, I'll vacate, I lose, I'll go back and I'll get to fight for a title again. And so it's dumb. It's just hard to enforce. The actual answer is the UFC just needs to be judicious and appropriate with allowing champ champ champ fights.

That's not going to happen. They did it for 30 years prior to Connor or 25 or whatever. Just go back to that system where they have them, but they're very rare. They're meaningful. They are totally deserving. It's great. So tell the UFC to make less money. I truly do not believe they make more money from the champ champ fights.

I agree with that, but that's because they've been mostly unsuccessful. I think if they were more successful, then it would be a different conversation. but the little men have not been winning. Yeah. But it's all it's I mean to one extent I guess you'll be more successful the more bullets you shoot. But also you're just probably going to. You're probably going to be less successful if you're just running every brand new

Ash champion up who's not like oh they're actually really good. It's just like good. Sean Amalley had a tremendous performance tonight. Sean Amalley had a fairly fraudulent path to the belt and could suck. He doesn't. He just has proved clearly that he doesn't. but like he could have just sucked and it got there. Connor kind of did,

but he just sort of high rolled and spiked his lightweight title shot in a good matchup. Like it's let dudes defend and you're like, oh, yeah, that guy's really good. Alexander Worknowski is very good at fist fighting and he almost beat Islam. He did not. I want to be super clear about that, but like he had a chance to. All right.

And real quick, real quick. James Burns is a bit of a late stop. Did you think, yeah, we touched on that. It was a little late. I mean, it's not a. It's not a green. We've seen way worse, but Burns took a lot of unnecessary damage, in my opinion. But it's fine.

It's not the worst by any stretch of the imagination. I didn't. I thought it was fine. Maybe it was too late. It was okay. Yeah. This is a bit of a two-parter, but this is the first part. Yes.

We will all the Honorable. We will. And this is the question, I assume. Agree or not, Sean becomes a superstar beating Ilya, but doesn't gain respect from everyone or agree, disagree. Sean fights Marab and if he wins, becomes a superstar and then gains the respect from everyone. Don't agree. Disagree with the first part of that.

I agree that if he fights Sean, he's, if he fights and beats Marab, he will elevate his stardom. I think Marab is over with the fans. They already have a built-in thing. Like, I think that that's a sellable good fight that the UFC wants and that that will, in fact, oh, he like legitimately, because even if this is a great performance, And you know it's a good performance because we're not talking about this part of it. An absolute narrative coming into this fight was Cheeto doesn't deserve this.

And so that's not with Marab. It's like, hey, he absolutely beat the top contender. He gets over more. But if they give him Ilya and he beats Ilya, super do not believe that would happen. But if it did, Ilya is an enormous star could not be moreover. Maybe it might not be possible for him to be more over than he is. if he goes and beats him, particularly with the way people love champ champs, even though I give that a lot less credence than others do,

he's a bigger star if he beats Sely than if he beats Mrahab. For sure. This is based on a faulty premise, which is that these one fights do it. And it's why they continue to go back to the well on these champ champ fights because they think it will be one fight that does it just doesn't work. It's not one fight. The lesson that people should have learned from Connor McGregor isn't,

oh, he beat Eddie Alvarez to become the biggest star in the world and then box Floyd Mayweather. It was that he called his shot every single time, talked the best shit in the sport, and just kept rolling sevens and just kept rolling seven after seven after seven after seven. It's not going to happen in one time. Beating Iliate's Apore will be great, but it's still not going to do it. So like these are not that different in my opinion. Certainly I believe beating I will be more. That is the better option.

But it's just not how it works. And the UFC will continue to chase it, but it's not how it works. The only one that works for is beating Connor. Connor gets you to start him. Fair. Yep. Good call. But he's not going to do that.

But like, I mean, that's Dustin big. It's wearing off a little bit. Nate is the best example. Then Dustin, I feel like it was good, but it wasn't as good as Nate. And now I feel like it might, it might even be more diminished. So we'll see. It's a copy of a copy. That could be true.

But yeah, no, startom is the culmination of your achievements, not something that happens because you beat a dude. Yeah, it'd be really interesting. I mean, you can't, you never know, like, how would it be stardom be if the Connor fight didn't happen if he was just, you know, he just won all the time. I don't know. It would be still big, but nothing near what he's at. Yeah, that's right. Yeah. Cool.

And the very last thing, it's just a comment, leaving a little positivity. You guys are awesome. Four and Eastern. It's actually five, even Eastern. Turn the clocks ahead, brother. Turn the clocks ahead. It is 1 o'clock a.m. Casey went back to the afternoon.

Casey, just wait. It's coming for you, Casey. Nope, nope. It's happening. Dies. And you're going to go live and I'm going to answer all the questions, all of them. Shouts to Heather Youngs, who is in Miami and who has spent the last 15 years of his life in Arizona, where there's no such thing as daylight savings time.

and when Eric, I think it was you who posted this line, it was like, clock's changed. She was like, fuck. The first time I've had to do this in 15 years is bullshit. I just can't believe he's not been at like an event when this happened before because he's been on the road for so long. It was surprising. It had to be an East Coast event too.

Yeah, would have had to be East Coast, which changes it because it's always more obviously toward Cali and Vegas. But yeah, shout out to Jose. That was my favorite part of the whole evening. Jose realizing that he no longer lived in Arizona. Yeah. All right. Hit the music, Casey.

We out. Thank you all very much. Appreciate it. Mike, thank you. Thank you for doing this because I can see. I can see what's happening here. So thank you. I have no voice.

That's really the whole thing. I got to establish some sort of voice for tomorrow morning with a man, that's all it is. Reunion. Mike, you're fine. Steven, even contributed to the Duncan fund.

You just wake up, get yourself a little Duncan. You're ready to go. We're going to, we're going to on to the next one the hell out of this fight card. I'm very excited. So we'll see you at 10 a.m.

Easternt, oh, thank you, Gogo, Flamingo. You fools be tripping. Islam Volk was one of the best fights the last five years. We want to see the best fight the best. O'Malley and Tuporia

are generational talent's biggest events against each other. Nobody's arguing that that champ versus champ fights can't be good. The argument is like, are they necessary and deserved? As opposed to fighting your next contender. Just listen to Jed talk about Volk versus Islam 2. Latest example. Also, do you guys remember you picked a good fight.

Do you remember when Israel fought Jan? We're all like, hell yeah. What a sick-ass fight that was. Good night. I got receipts too, brother. Good night. Happy birthday, AK. Happy birthday.

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