MMA Fighting - UFC 316 Post-Fight Show | Reaction To Merab Dvalishvili, Kayla Harrison's Championship Wins

Episode Date: June 8, 2025

Merab Dvalishvili put an exclamation point on his rivalry with Sean O'Malley with a dominant submission win in the main event of UFC 316. Dvalishvili has put himself in the conversation to be the grea...test bantamweight of all-time, and now he's taken one step closer to that accomplishment following his performance in Newark. Following UFC 316, MMA Fighting's Mike Heck and Jed Meshew react to the card as a whole, Dvalishvili's performance, a likely showdown with Cory Sandhagen next, and where O'Malley could go following his second straight loss. Additionally, they discuss Kayla Harrison's title-winning submission of Julianna Pena in the co-main event, the faceoff between Harrison and Amanda Nunes, how big that fight is right now, Pena's next move, Patchy Mix losing a lopsided decision to Mario Bautista in his UFC debut, other standout moments and performances, and more. Follow Mike Heck: ⁠⁠⁠⁠@m_heckjr⁠ Follow Jed Meshew: ⁠⁠⁠⁠@JedKMeshew⁠⁠⁠⁠ Subscribe:⁠⁠⁠⁠ http://goo.gl/dYpsgH⁠⁠⁠⁠ Check out our full video catalog: ⁠⁠⁠⁠http://goo.gl/u8VvLi⁠⁠⁠⁠ Visit our playlists:⁠⁠⁠⁠ http://goo.gl/eFhsvM⁠⁠⁠⁠ Like MMAF on Facebook: ⁠⁠⁠⁠http://goo.gl/uhdg7Z⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow on Twitter: ⁠⁠⁠⁠http://goo.gl/nOATUI⁠⁠⁠⁠ Read More: ⁠⁠⁠⁠http://www.mmafighting.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Transcript
Discussion (0)
Starting point is 00:00:00 And now your host, Mike Heck and Jed Mushu. You're listening to the Vox Media Podcast Network. We're back. Welcome to the UFC 316 post-fight show. I am Stone Cold Mike Heck. That is Jed the Snake Mushu. We are here reacting to what just transpired at UFC 316 in Brick City, at the Prue. Maraud de Wallace, Billy, submitted.
Starting point is 00:00:35 It's Sean O'Malley in the third round to retain the UFC Bannamway title. Kayla Harrison submits Juliana Pena to become the UFC women's Bannamway champion. We had the face off with Amanda Nunes. It was pretty damn electric. Great performance. We had a win for Joe Pfeer in a fight that no one's probably going to go back and rewatch. No disrespect. It's just the way that it is, considering everything else that happened tonight.
Starting point is 00:01:02 Patchy mixes UFC debut spoiled by March. Barista, now Wario Batista. Wario Batista. No longer Wario Wattista. And Kevin Holland gets a submission whenever of Sente Luque. That was your main card. Other performances we'll talk about as well.
Starting point is 00:01:17 But Jed, overall thoughts. We just wrapped and packed the watch party. We just wrapped and packed this paper view card. If you were to give this an overall letter grade, especially the main card, I'll say the last six fights. What are we giving it? A minus, right?
Starting point is 00:01:33 That's pretty good. Yeah. Look, I was as down on. this card is anybody going in. It's very, very negative. Staying by all of that. The main event, even though that main event was more fun than I
Starting point is 00:01:45 certainly anticipated, I think that most people very impressed by Marab de Voshevili, will get into that. That fight was needless. That doesn't change, that Sean O'Malley did not deserve that opportunity. And then frankly, that performance, I know the biggest takeaway is Marab looked amazing.
Starting point is 00:02:02 But then after we settle in, people will probably be like, well, yeah he looked great but Sean shouldn't have been in there anyway Sean looked bad Mara Bade him look bad that's would have been cooler if he was fighting Corey Sandaigan or somebody that deserved
Starting point is 00:02:17 to be in there and so that's still there but the fight was good we ended on a fun note Kela Harrison did the damn thing the storylines we talked about it on the watch party big fight feel when Amanda Nunes came into that cage to do the stare down like that's that is
Starting point is 00:02:33 big shit going on right now Joe Pfeiffer professional performance, good win, the least memorable thing we'll talk about. Patchy makes the storyline coming out of that. Warrior Batista did great, like a great performance from him really established himself as, hey, I'm a legit top 10 Vanemite. I know that that fight happened.
Starting point is 00:02:54 Y'all are mad at me, but I'm for real. You got to deal with it. And then Kevin Holland, DeCente Luque, was fun. Like, this is not the best card of the year. By the nature of it, we probably won't you know, think about it forever after all. But big storylines, big event, big performances, A-Card, you know, A-minus. Let's talk about Maraud Walsh, really.
Starting point is 00:03:16 This dude is an absolute demon. I mean, come on, man. Like, I seems very awful to fight him. It's very terrible to fight him. One of the things I've been saying since I started that May fighting is anybody, and this is well before he was even like sniffing the belt was there is not a single band of on the planet when a contract gets sent in their email and they see Marrador Rob the Wallace willie on the other side of it.
Starting point is 00:03:37 They're going to be like, yay, can't wait to fight this guy. And boy, is he just kind of proving that theory correct? Goes out there, Sean O'Malley, to his credit, looked real good in the first three minutes of this fight. Then he slipped, then he tripped, and then Marab just kind of maraud him. And once that starts happening, once Marab starts to get any confidence, you are just done. This guy is just so difficult to fight. How excited are you for this Corey San Francisco? Hagen fight because there is no other way to go now, especially since Patchy Mix lost a non-competitive
Starting point is 00:04:11 decision earlier in the evening. So there's just no other way to go with this. Marad de Wallis-Villeur versus Corey Sandhagan. How excited are you for that fight? It's good fight. I'm still not excited. It's still Marab. And I'm not coming off this corner, right? Like, I know Marab just finished him and that's awesome. I'm not here at all to shit on Maraud de Vosvili tonight because he doesn't deserve it. He had a great performance and you know what he did Mike he tried to hurt somebody and that is that was my contention all week he's not fun to watch because he doesn't try to hurt anybody if he starts trying to hurt people he's going to be fun to watch and he did it and it was great well one time does not one is not a streak you know one does not mean that this is who you are now i know this is what have you
Starting point is 00:04:59 done for me lately sport which we will certainly get into in other respects tonight One can be an aberration. A blind squirrel finds a nut. A broken clock is right. If he goes out and he finishes Corey Santagan, then I will humbly eat my crow and say, Marab is fun now. Hasn't been fun.
Starting point is 00:05:17 And so I will still cautiously say, that fight's probably going to look like Marab being Marab. Corey Sandhagan, very good fighter. I am excited in that it is something new, which is really what we wanted, or certainly what I wanted. I don't really want to see Marab run back. with Peter Yan. Certainly didn't want to see Marab and Sean O'Malley do this again.
Starting point is 00:05:37 Corey Sandhagen, maybe not the most deserving contender. He's not a one-fight win streak. Good enough. It's something new. I have a lot of respect for Corey Sanhagen. Should be fun. Glad we're doing it. Maradvalos, really, most takedowns in UFC history, 97 throughout his UFC career. That's pretty ridiculous for you actually think about it. It's just a ludicrous number. It's absolutely incredible. And the thing about a performance, like this and what Marab did tonight is there's no really like
Starting point is 00:06:07 lingering fallback questions right now. I mean, we could do the Bannam White Goat discussion. We just did that at nauseam on the watch party. So go back and rewatch it. We'll time stamp and see you guys can check that out. We'll be talking about that throughout the week on BTL and other shows. No doubt about it. We're talking about it for the next three years.
Starting point is 00:06:24 Yeah, we're talking about. I mean, it's how it is in every division. But at least in this particular instance, because once Wednesday rolls around, we get to Atlanta, we're going to be pretty stoked for that. So this isn't going to have like the same lingering effects as other paper views that will get a week off in between like 317. We'll be able to talk about for longer. But the more interesting question now is on the Sean O'Malley side because he has now lost two
Starting point is 00:06:47 in a row. He has lost to the champion twice. And the first fight was not fun. And no one thought Sean performed particularly well in that fight. This one, Sean did everything possible to prepare for this fight, best physical condition of his career, took, took the This is about as serious as any other UFC fight he's ever had. Dude was ready to go. There are no excuses to be had here. He gave Maraud de Walsh, Willie, his best. And like the song says, I guess your best wasn't good enough.
Starting point is 00:07:17 Where does he go from here? Does he go to, because I know Chale's like, she goes to 45. Like, does he stay at 35? Like, what do we do with Sean O'Malley? Dude, is a really good question. I mean, I just don't think Sean O'Malley has much future at 145. He said he's not like the biggest. It's tall, you know, he's lanky,
Starting point is 00:07:37 but he'd need to put on some weight up there. It's a division with, you know, it's a little older now, so maybe he could find the lane there, but I think he's a natural bantam weight, and he appears to be in that situation and some fighters get in, you know, Mike, where, hey, you're great.
Starting point is 00:07:54 Well, I'm not, Sean and I's definitely very good. I'm not sure he's great, great. He was a champion circumstance, et cetera, very, very good. maybe you just have to have the rich Franklin role and hope that somebody, because, you know, if Corey pulls off the upset, which I do not believe it would do, but if he does, Sean's right back in the mix.
Starting point is 00:08:14 I don't know if he's in the mix at Featherweight. It might be a situation where we take a little time. Maybe he can find a fun fight to stay busy, but just let the division unfold a little bit and see if he can find another way forward. Because right now he's in jail. He's in Bantamweight Jail, Title Bantamweight Jail. And so I don't know. Maybe it's just, if core really is next, maybe now you just do the Peota Yan rematch, you know, five-round main event somewhere, you do that and say, all right, the two of you settle up and let's go from there.
Starting point is 00:08:49 It's a really weird position for him right now. Yeah. I mean, I know there are rumors about Jan fighting Marcus McGee and there is smoke to that fire. It is not done yet. That is a fight that is not up here in enematefiting.com, which means it is not a high. Not real. But that fight is being discussed. That is the fight the UFC wants at this moment.
Starting point is 00:09:10 So I would be kind of, I'd be pretty surprised if it doesn't happen right now. But to say that it is done done would be inaccurate on our part. But a featherweight move is kind of interesting. But it would have to be for like the right fight, like a cater or some guy like that or just get in there and just have a fun fight that you could win. want to do it just for fun not make a full divisional move, but just like, oh, I'll go up and have a little scrap at 145
Starting point is 00:09:38 for a good time. Okay. Yeah. I mean, if Yon wins, if Yon fights McGeehan wins, he probably gets the winner of Marab and Sandhagen at that point, right? Or, I mean, right? Oh, yeah, yeah. I mean, that's certainly. Seeing somebody in the chat here, a couple of people,
Starting point is 00:09:55 a lot of people, Davis and Figurato as a, as an O'Malley fight, that makes a lot of sense. I think that makes a fair amount of sense. Yeah, I mean, that's two dudes who are not realistically in the title conversation right now, big names, former champions. I think that makes some sense. That's probably where I actually-
Starting point is 00:10:14 Oh, Malley versus Batis in an meritocratic world. This is on to the next one. We would drop the doo-do bomb on you. These two are teammates. They are very close. Tisk, Tis. They've trained together for years. They've put each other over on multiple occasions.
Starting point is 00:10:28 They ain't fight each other. it's just not going to happen. So I will say, I have not decided on to the next one I'm going to do. What would be kind of interesting, he moves up to 145 and we get O'Malley versus Aljo too. I don't know why Sean would do that, but why not? Because he can't beat him better. And beating Aljo at 145 doesn't get him a title fight.
Starting point is 00:10:53 So I don't think it does. Maybe it does. Dude, yeah, you, Roder Regis is about to fight. for a title, dude. I don't. Again, I don't believe that. Not on enemy fight.com. That's gobbly goat.
Starting point is 00:11:05 I don't think that's going to happen. I'm going to keep saying it so it won't. Yeah. But I mean, if they do make that fight, Sean should absolutely go up there. Because let's just think about it in this sense, right? If they go with Volk versus Yair, Volk is just going to run his ass over again.
Starting point is 00:11:22 Like, there's no doubt of my mind. This is an accurate assessment. And let's just say they do Movesar versus Aaron Pico or whatever they're going to do. but by the way, also not at mifighting.com. Fake. Let's just say like that fight just happened and O'Vloy of Wednesday competitive decision. Sean O'Malley goes up and knocks out Aljo at 145. You don't think they'd go to Volt versus O'Malley?
Starting point is 00:11:44 I think they would. Mavsar's going to beat Volk. He's going to fight Bolt next. And Mavsar is going to be our new champion. That's the world I'm living. This is the world we should be living in. That's the world. We're going to.
Starting point is 00:11:56 You know what? I think you just, I think you nailed. it. Someone in the chat, you do you do Henry's hood. Oh, that's a good one. That's the one. Nope, that's it. No, no notes. Good one. If we're not doing Brandon Marino
Starting point is 00:12:09 versus Henry Suhudo. Yeah, that's a good one. I'm not a side of the book that. I'm still going to favor of Figu, but that's a good one and makes sense. I got no problem with that one. Sehudo is the one. Because Suhudo probably is fighting one more time. There'll at least be some meat on the bone
Starting point is 00:12:23 and Sean probably wins that fight. Yeah. So there's a good chance. So don't hate it. That very, very solid call. But there are still, there are still options here at the end of the day. I mean, he's young enough. Sometimes, like, it's not, nobody's happy with this outcome.
Starting point is 00:12:38 Like, nobody wants to be the, you know, all the bridesmaid, which is what Sean is now going to be. Yeah. But he is young enough that things can happen, you know? Robert Whitaker was in that position for a hot minute. He just had to keep trying to get some wins. And then suddenly it's like, okay, maybe I can get back there. Maybe, maybe something can break right. you never know.
Starting point is 00:13:00 It's not a great position, but O'Malley, Malley can make do, and that's just what I'll have to do. Get some wins over some people. Maybe Corey pulls it off, you know, and then he can, oh shit, now I'm up. He's literally a win away, of course, and Winsville, because that's just the position that he's in. So we'll see what Sean does. I mean, does he take an extended period of time off,
Starting point is 00:13:24 or does he try to get right back on the horse? Because as he's been saying all week, I'm taking the sport seriously. I'm going to do everything I can to give my best of the sport. I'm in my athletic prime. So it's going to be real interesting to see what Sean O'Malley does.
Starting point is 00:13:36 I wonder if Sean shows up at the post-fight presser. I doubt it. But maybe he does. It'd be a good look if he did. I think you just shouldn't because you don't have to. So, you know,
Starting point is 00:13:47 take it, don't do it. Just go home. Plus, I doubt, I really doubt he does because he has his own YouTube brand. Like, he's going to want to do his statements, do his channels, instead of doing this.
Starting point is 00:13:57 So I think Sean's probably gone. And that's fine. Take the night off. Credit to him. Took that loss super well, Mike. He was really impressed with his post fight. Put Marab over. Probably the most succinct.
Starting point is 00:14:10 Like, here's what fighting Mara was like, that dude's a motherfucker. Yep. Just a real tough one. So credit to Sean O'Malley, handled the loss of class. You know, you're just stuck fighting at a time
Starting point is 00:14:24 with one of the, the best guys who's ever competed in this weight class. Yes. We have bonuses. I'm going to say four performance bonuses. Yes. Marab, Kayla, Kevin,
Starting point is 00:14:39 Du-Doo knocked out Jekka. Correct. Those are your bonuses. Couldn't have been. Ju sang you. Yeah. You sang you. There's you.
Starting point is 00:14:45 There's your bonuses. Easy peasy. No, nothing for Josh Fad. I mean, that's the worst. of those, so that's fine. Yes. Good, great performance, certainly, the worst of the five. I mean, I don't know this for sure.
Starting point is 00:15:04 I'm getting conflicting reports, but apparently no Dana again. I told you. I've been saying that for weeks. That man is just actively trying not to speak into a microphone because he doesn't want to have to deal with John Tom, now Francis stuff. He just don't want it. I got to do it. Plus, DJT's there.
Starting point is 00:15:22 He's got to go hang out with this is his best buddy of the president of the United States. If Dave Shaw is at this press conference right now, I'm just looking on my phone real quick. Jose's gonna lose his mind. This would be truly the funniest thing I've ever seen. Dana, I mean, actually it's not,
Starting point is 00:15:35 but Dana showing in for five hours and then leaving. Just to wrap the belt. Well, I mean, Kayla's there now, but that doesn't mean Dana's not there. So we will wait and see. It doesn't mean he is not there.
Starting point is 00:15:46 That's awesome, though. We will wait and see what is going. That's incredible if Dana really is just like, nah. Speaking of Kayla Harrison, she is up there with UFC gold on the table in front of her. She is the UFC Women's Bannamweight Champion. She submits Giuliana Pena.
Starting point is 00:16:02 She got kicked in the face illegally, not once but twice by Juliana Pena in round one. A point was taken, which may be your biggest takeaway of this fight because I don't think the result surprised you at all. But Kayla Harrison, the new women's bandamway champion, ever since she signed the UFC, this is what we wanted. Can she make 135? she makes it. Will that affect her in the fight? Didn't affect her in this one because she did it inside of two rounds.
Starting point is 00:16:29 And now she's the champ. And Amanda Nunes is going to come back. They had the face off. This was as good as it could get. Was it not? 100%. I mean, this is what they wanted the last time when Julia-on-Paint-ups at the Apple cart.
Starting point is 00:16:43 You're right. I grew increasingly confident as this week went on that Kayla was just going to run her over. And to Payne's credit, she put up some resistance didn't really have any success scoring but didn't just die immediately but i mean Caleb brutally finished that fight very quickly it happened sort of in the blink of an eye and i didn't know how much fun i would have with kela harrison versus amanda nunes until they were there like we knew that that was coming we knew that that's what we wanted to build to and that
Starting point is 00:17:18 it would at least be fun. It would be interesting. It would help keep this division alive. It is floundering. And then Amanda walks into the cage and they have a very respectful face off and chat of, you know, Kayla says puts Amanda over. She's the goat. I want to take what she's got. You know, they have some level of relationship, but they're not close friends or anything. They, you know, they are acquaintances. So they kept it respectful while also very clearly being ready to do harm to one another. And all of a sudden I'm watching them face off. I'm like, hell yeah. We're back, baby. Women's band and wait. The marquee division is back. And it won't be back forever, but it'll be back for this one. And maybe it ends up being like a trilogy of fights and it's awesome.
Starting point is 00:18:05 But for tonight and the next night, whenever it comes, I mean, this is the biggest fight in women's in May. It's bigger than Zhang Chowchenko. Like, this is the biggest fight in women's in May. and it's up next. We're very excited, but it also leads to a question we have to ask ourselves. How many times can Kayla Harrison do this?
Starting point is 00:18:28 How many times she can keep going to 135 and hitting 135 and keep fighting? Because is this something where if she fights Nunes and just obliterates her? Like what else literally is there for her to do? Is she going to fight Norma Dumont? Is she going to fight Raquel Pennington? She'll probably fight twice after.
Starting point is 00:18:44 I would say if she runs over Nunes, she fights at least one more just to put a stamp on it because like if she beats nunez and she'll beat the hell out of Norman de mona or whatever like it'll be fine i think she'll do it because you want to be the champion and it is mostly about legacy and stuff like that for kela but she can't she probably can't frankly just have a long enough career to be the women's bantamweight goat although she can because now it doesn't matter if you are just the current champion half the fan base thinks that you're the greatest fighter who's ever walked on the face the earth in that way class.
Starting point is 00:19:17 But she can go out there. She can, you know, put together some wins and really build a long-term UFC legacy. Stack up accomplishments towards being the greatest women's combat athlete of all time, which I don't know if she's there or not, but she certainly making a case for it. And so my guess is she, you know, you get paid. You get paid to fight. So she would get paid more money to defend her belt against Norman DeMont. I don't think she can do this for 10 years, you know.
Starting point is 00:19:46 She can't do eight more of these. But it seems like she made it. I'm sure it was awful. She looked dead on the scale. She made it. She can probably make it a few more times. And maybe if she beats Amanda, she didn't even have to. Maybe the U.C. says, dude, screw it.
Starting point is 00:20:02 You're the best thing we got going. You know, like theoretically she beats Amanda. She probably fights Chivchenko. If Chivchenko beat Shang, they do like a, let's just do another super fight. Screw it. Do all the super fights, you know? but I think she'll do at least a couple more. We have opening odds for Amanda Nunes versus Kayla Harrison.
Starting point is 00:20:22 You want to take a gander on what that looks like? Amanda Nunes minus 180. Kayla Harrison opened as a favorite. Wow. I should bet that. The comeback on Amanda Nunes plus 136. That's where we're at right now. But right now, if that fight, let's just say that fight is booked.
Starting point is 00:20:41 It's happening. let's just say it's happening in July. Let's just say they throw it on the July pay-per-view. This fight's happening. Who are you picking? Right now, I mean, we're going to dive in tape
Starting point is 00:20:54 and like there's questions about... I'm picking Amanda. You would pick Amanda Nunez. Why? Because Kayla Harrison, honestly, she looked better striking than she has previously. She's still a good striking.
Starting point is 00:21:05 But she looked better because Amanda, the reason I was so confident and Kayla is Amanda is not Amanda sorry Juliana is not she doesn't hurt you she can wear you down and wear you out but she is not going to punch you in the face and suddenly you're dead Amanda Nunes will kill you she will she will hit you with a punch and you will die and Kayla can get hit and so if Kayla goes and does Kayla stuff that won't shock me she's a two-time Olympic gold medalist and very good but I do think Amanda can match her physical
Starting point is 00:21:42 to some extent. The big question is the layoff. You know, that's a long layoff. How will she look coming back? But she can also, she can at least be near Kayla's physicality in the grappling exchange. She's not as technical or talented.
Starting point is 00:21:56 And she is so superior in the striking and so devastating in the striking that I got a favor Amanda, but that's why I want to see the fight because I could be stone ass wrong about that. The long layoff is real. this is one of the most anticipated fights, not just in women's in May,
Starting point is 00:22:15 and all of them may now. Manda Nunes was just on the post-fight show with John Anick and Brett Okamoto, and apparently Amanda said November, December is sort of what she's targeting. So MSG, baby, it's a damn good, well, maybe December. That's a main event, right?
Starting point is 00:22:31 Is the main event fight? It should be a main event, yes. There's no... It's one of the biggest fights for promotion to do. Sure. That'd be pretty badass, man. I think you can. That'd be pretty wild.
Starting point is 00:22:41 I absolutely can. To me, I think this fight should 100% be the January first fight of the new pay-per-view. Because like, I think it can be a pay-per-view or main event. It's not really. I mean, no fight is, but like it's probably not going to be a gangbusters pay-per-view because it's just not. But if something gets set up with Netflix, I can't think of a better first Netflix main event than that fight right there. Yep. That fight for the Netflix main event, if that ends up going to pass, lock it in.
Starting point is 00:23:15 Yeah. The UFC would probably try to do Connor versus Chandler, but. I mean, that would be big, but also, do they even want to? Like, I don't know, like, what Connor's paperview. For Netflix? I mean, that's, D.K. I would do it. I guess so. That, that, they would probably prefer that over this fight, which is, it is what it is.
Starting point is 00:23:34 So now we ask this question about Sean O'Malley, because we know where Kayla Harrison's going. Pretty obvious. It's legit. And I'm sure we'll have more questions about Kayla and her legacy. You're getting timed out, bro. You're getting timed out. We don't take that disrespect here. Sorry.
Starting point is 00:23:48 Did someone jump on Joseo? No, he said women's MMA doesn't deserve a main event. Not on my watch. Ridiculous. Not on my watch. Kayla Harrison versus Amanda Nunes is one of the three to four biggest fights the UFC can make right now. Literally one of the biggest fights you can book together right now. It is bigger than Alex Pereira versus Magamah and Kaliaf.
Starting point is 00:24:10 too, like without question that is a bigger fight than that rematch. There would be way more interest in that fight than Pereira fighting Angolaev. Like, this is one of the five biggest fights the UFC can literally put on right this second. So that is just a terrible comment. But Julianna Pena, Damon Martin's favorite fighter. Man, Damon. Damon has had a great day. Damon has already said in our Slack, he needs to take some personal days because his favorite fighter lost and got finished.
Starting point is 00:24:37 He's very heartbroken about what just transpired tonight. but it does pose maybe a little bit more of an interesting question, probably the same, a shot on Malley, but what else does Giuliana Pena have to prove at this point? Like, what makes sense for her? Is she going to fight Rocky Pennington again? Is she going to fight Norma Dumont? Is she going to fight Macy Chiasan?
Starting point is 00:24:58 Like, I don't know where she goes because, dude, she's a two-time champ. She's a Hall of Famer. I don't know. I honestly don't. I don't know. Does she keep this going? She's in such a weird spot right now. I think she's in a great spot because here's the thing, Mike, and this is going to be, I would say that this would be mean. But apparently there are Marab fans because they've been coming for me. And you know what? Have yourself a day.
Starting point is 00:25:24 I still stand by everything I said and I don't think any of it is wrong. But, you know, you get an opportunity right now. I understand it. Easy target. I don't think there's going to be a lot of fans out here or mad when I say this. You just offered. what does Juliana Pena have to prove? A lot, a lot, Mike. She has one win over a currently ranked fighter at the Women's Bannonweight Division, that win being the Rocky Pennington win that most people don't think she won.
Starting point is 00:25:52 Maybe not a stone robbery, but I think most people thought Pennington took that fight. So it is weird in that she is a two-time champion, but like she just has so few wins over the top of that division. One, so few beings. one, the one win. And so I know that, like, a lot of that division is old and terrible or whatever, but, like, Julian O'Pena can just go fight Ketland-Vierra.
Starting point is 00:26:17 You can just go fight Macy Chasin, you know, like Jacqueline Cavalcanti. And maybe she won't be that excited because there's obviously a demonstrable difference between being co-main eventor, title fighter to fighting Jacqueline Cavalcanti. But, you know, that's why they call it a job. Sometimes you have to do things you don't want to do, Mike. And so she can do that. If she gets a couple of wins, you know, she's right back in the mix. And frankly, if Amanda beats Kayla, right?
Starting point is 00:26:46 Like if that happens, I think it will, if that does. Amanda is saying she wants to come back, come back, that this is not a one-off. She wants to defend. And so, you know, wouldn't shock me if Pena can just get one win. She can go beat anybody. If Amanda wins, they're like, all right, trilogy fight. Sorry, Norman Dumont. We don't really care.
Starting point is 00:27:07 Amanda versus Pena 3, that's the thing. So she's not in that bad a position, but she is going to have to sing for her supper a little bit. She's going to have to get some wins. Yeah, and I think the more fair question is, now what does she have to prove, but what else does she need to accomplish? Because she's a two-time champ.
Starting point is 00:27:26 Like, that's way beyond what others. Many people are not that in the history of this sport. Yes, that's very, very true. She is a UFC Hall of Famer. She retired tonight. just going in the Hall of Fame probably next year as a two-time champion. So that's what it is. So we'll see what happens to Giuliana Pena.
Starting point is 00:27:45 Joe Pfeiffer defeats Calvin Gasselham, 3027 in a pair of 2928 and 2927. So yeah, that fight happened. No one's going to go back and rewatch that. But getting the win is all that matters. And Joe Piper got a win in front of the President of the United States of America. So good on him. Good performance too. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:03 Kevin Holland submits. Solid performance from Joe Piper. Very, very solid. You could tell he's maturing a bit as a fighter. And, you know, the Joe Pfeiffer, I kind of expected to go in there. Who dropped Calvin Gasolm multiple times in this fight, thought he would go bananas trying to finish Calvin, but he was very calm, cool, collected. It's good having Dean Thomas in your corner to guide you in the right direction.
Starting point is 00:28:27 And he even said it afterwards. He's like, you know, like, I heard that dude. And then I realized I shouldn't get too crazy. I was like, that's smart. That is an absolutely correct way to approach that. 1,000% Kevin Holland gets the finish of Vicente Lucke.
Starting point is 00:28:41 Josh Van looked incredible, but the third biggest story, the silver medalist, if you will, they came out of this event was the third biggest storyline heading into this. Patchy Mix,
Starting point is 00:28:51 finally making his UFC debut. Patchy makes a guy who on this website, there are multiple people, Damon Martin, our own E.C. Liden, there may have been another
Starting point is 00:29:00 at some point. They had patchy mix ranked as the best band of weight in the world at one point. I ranked about the best band of weight in the world after the tournament because the tournament win was dope. It was dope.
Starting point is 00:29:11 And then he hasn't been the best band-in-waiting-the-world for me for some time. But the Grand Prix run was unimpeachably great. It was a good, yeah, it was a good run. But all these questions, everything that led up to this was, okay, is he the best band-in-way in the world? And then, at least in my eyes, I couldn't put him that way because, yes, getting wins over Rafian Stops is, like, obviously good, and beating Sergio Pettis is solid.
Starting point is 00:29:35 but these guys were probably top 10 would be top 10, top 15 fighters in the UFC where we truly would just not get the answer to this question unless patchy mix signs with the UFC. After the Magamemad Mada made off rematch, I went down on patchy mix a little bit. They're not saying it was bad, but his stock took a bit of a hit in my eyes.
Starting point is 00:29:57 I was like, okay, this guy can't be beaten by a lot of these guys at Banimay. Like, he's still very good, but maybe he's not the best band-in-way in the world. Maybe he's not a top-five Bannon-Wa-Wain, and I got a little bit of blowback for my takes coming out of that fight. I remember saying on the post-fight or a preview show for a UFC card because that was a Friday card saying that I think Sean O'Malley would whip Patsy-Mix.
Starting point is 00:30:21 Like I, because this is when O'Malley was the champions before he lost the belt. Like, that's just kind of how I felt after watching that fight. Patchy-Mix signs of the UFC, very big deal. He's fighting Mario Batista, who is public enemy number one, Newark, New Jersey and the rest of the mixed martial arts community after what transpired in the Jose Aldo fight. And everyone was fired up for this. Patchy Mix is like, I'm looking through this dude.
Starting point is 00:30:44 I'm going to go fight the winner of this fight. That court ain't going to age well. Yeah. According to age well. Patchy said he's basically just going to run Mario Batista over on his way to a title fight. What happened was the direct officer. Mario Batista beat the hell out of Apache Mix for 15 minutes. This fight was not competitive.
Starting point is 00:31:03 No, no. not competitive at all. Patchy, I don't know what to say, man. Like, this is, this is the worst thing that could have happened to him.
Starting point is 00:31:13 Like, it wasn't, like, if he lost a decision, it was a super fun fight, that's one thing. But you were not, yeah,
Starting point is 00:31:20 this was not, this is a no doubt 30 to 27. Did someone actually score for mix? Didn't one judge give mix a round? I don't know what you were thinking. One judge gave mix one round. So I think it was, it was a 30,
Starting point is 00:31:33 27, 28, 30, 27. I think that was right. That's what it was. But Patchy loses DeMara Batista. Not competitive. Fill in the blank. Patchy Mix as a UFC fighter is blank.
Starting point is 00:31:50 Oh, that's a good. Man, that's a hard one, Mike. Patchy Mix as a UFC fighter is disappointing. And look, I don't want to throw the baby out with the bathwater right now because I'm looking at the comments. Our chat is being unkind to Patrick Mix. I suspect that the internet as a whole is being unkind to him as well. And to Bellator,
Starting point is 00:32:16 some of the statements are a little bit obviously insane, but you know, you're hyped up. Probably had a few. It's okay. That was disappointing. He did not fight well. Some of that certainly can be ascribed to Warrior Batista, who looked,
Starting point is 00:32:33 Right. Looked terrific. Really got people back on his good side, me being people in that scenario. But that was really disappointing. That being said, we have seen other fighters make this transition and it's harder than they won. It's different. Eddie Alvarez famously lost his UFC debut and not, he performed better than Patchy did. But he didn't perform great against Donald Soroni.
Starting point is 00:32:57 And then three fights later, he was the lightweight champion of the whole goddamn world. It is not catastrophic. Patchy is now just going to have to get a win and another win and another win and get back there. But sometimes you have an off night. Maybe that's what happened. I guess we're just going to have to wait and see. But I think my biggest takeaway is not Patchy's overrated. I don't think Patchy was.
Starting point is 00:33:24 I don't like Wario. Not a big fan. I've never said he's bad. He's certainly very good. looks terrific tonight. My big takeaway is, man, it would have been more fun
Starting point is 00:33:36 if Patchy had come out and dazzled because of where that would lead. Instead, that's okay. And maybe shit. Maybe Warriors are going to come. Maybe Warriors are top five
Starting point is 00:33:45 band and weight. And that's it. And all the people are like, Patchy sucks. Actually, maybe Warriors just damn good because his UFC history has been damn good.
Starting point is 00:33:54 He lost to Jose Alde. He was the greatest fighter of all time. That's it. That's all that he's done this bad. So, time will tell on this one. I wanted more from Pachi. Didn't happen.
Starting point is 00:34:05 Can do nothing but tip my cap to Wario because he looked like a million goddamn dollars out there. So I'm going to disagree with you on one thing. I think this is catastrophic for Patsy Mixed. Catastrophic. Tell me the tale. He's never fighting for a UFC belt.
Starting point is 00:34:22 Never. Never. You're selling them out right now. Yep. I am. This was out. This was, this was,
Starting point is 00:34:29 this was everything, man. And the minute this fight was signed, I said the same thing. We're going to know Patchy mixes UFC ceiling in 15 minutes or less. This is a guy who's either going to fight for a belt or he's going to be a top 15 guy. And again, you say this all the time. Being one of the 15 best of anything in the world
Starting point is 00:34:48 is pretty damn good. It's unbelievably good. But he's just not a star. Like Eddie Alvarez was a star when he came over. Like, Patchy was like, okay, this is a very good fighter. How good is he? But no casual appeal whatsoever. That's a fair point.
Starting point is 00:35:05 Eddie Alvarez is a legitimately fair point. Eddie Alvarez had viral moments on the internet. He's king of the underground. He'd been championed in like eight other not divisions, promotions. That's a fair point. It's a very fair point. Eddie had casual appeal.
Starting point is 00:35:19 Like, he could afford a loss in his UFC debut and still make a move. Plus, lightweight at the time was like, they had great fighters, but it wasn't as deep of a division as it is now, and it certainly isn't as deep as Banimay it is right now. These Bannamway guys are coming. They're just going to continue to keep on coming up the ladder. And Patchy can get wins. There's no doubt about it.
Starting point is 00:35:41 It's not like he's going to go. Man, that U.K.O is watching the U.K.O. replay right now. And yush, that's brutal. Please continue. Yeah, that was nasty. I don't even know how I'm going to focus. I'm not going to be in motion.
Starting point is 00:35:53 But look, again, there are interesting fights for Patch. I saw some people mention Sean O'Malley versus Patchy Mix. Don't love that idea, really for either guy. But, you know, I mean, how do you book Patchy now? You know what I mean? Like, Mario, you could just, do you do Cheeto? You do patchy Cheeto? Do you do rebook Mario Cheeto?
Starting point is 00:36:19 I don't think you do Cheeto. That's not like awful. It's one of those things it was not like a bad answer, but I don't know what the good answer is, right? Do you do Patchy versus Rob Fon? Is that where you go? No, because Rob Fonts, like, highly ranked right now. And Rob could, I might pick Rob to win that fight, honestly. It could, but I mean, I'm looking at the U.C. rankings right now.
Starting point is 00:36:40 Here's the thing, Wario is number 10. I doubt he's going to get a huge bump for beating Pachos on ranked. I love the Bontel Jackson idea. I know, that's fun. That's a great fight. Yeah, I think he's got to fight somebody a little further back and just. Amon's a hobby. like that's honestly it depends on what your goal is if your goal is okay now i just want to see where
Starting point is 00:37:01 he's at then yeah something like that if your goal is let's get him a win let's try and build them a little bit just give him somebody you can win i don't know what that looks like because if he's not going to shoot takedowns he's not going to win a lot of fights his best as his best attributes is his grappling he did none of that tonight so i don't think there's a wrong way to eat the rices for patchy i just don't know what the good way is fortunately i do know of a program that will tell me the good way. This isn't one of the hardest on to the next ones. I do like see Paul Eggers in chat, Cody Garbrandt.
Starting point is 00:37:37 Booked. Oh, is he? Poop. Fighting, you'll be there. Like, literally in the building. Oh, is that next week? Yeah. It shows you how much they know that card.
Starting point is 00:37:46 He's fighting in what, high already Barcello. Sure, I don't know. I couldn't tell you who. I mean, you could do it. But like, do you win or lose next week? Cody Garcard. our brand you could you could absolutely do that so i think very bad for patchy mix again you could still have a nice career uh in the ufc he's going to get to continue fighting in the ufc and the most
Starting point is 00:38:09 important thing is this man like he's going to fight in his prime which if he stuck with pfl was not going to fight in his prime he's not getting pit bulled right now which is at least that yeah so that's something and you know again he wins five or six ufc fights like that's pretty cool just probably not going to fight for a belt and that's okay. Not everybody gets to fight for a belt. I don't think he's going to fight for a belt. I'm not going to say it's impossible. I think that's still outside of something super weird happening
Starting point is 00:38:37 or some sort of budding rivalry building up. And I don't know if that's that guy to like really do that. Probably not. Yeah, I don't know. Tough, tough scenes. Maybe patchy just says, F it, I'll fight Umar. You guys never got Habib versus Tony.
Starting point is 00:38:54 You can get Umar versus Moor. versus me. That's Habib Tonyesque. Interesting. The off brand bansomweight. That's my official ought no pick. By the way, Mike,
Starting point is 00:39:03 I'm throwing it out there now. Honestly, Myri Batis should have called for Umar. That'd have been a great call out. Except for then he has to fight Umore. That sucks. You never know, man. Maybe he's,
Starting point is 00:39:12 maybe he's the guy. It would be. I'm going to humor. That's my on to the next one. All right. For Patchy. For Patchy, correct.
Starting point is 00:39:20 Yeah, I got to think about this. I have to absolutely have to think about this. It's going to be a tough one. Tomorrow, on to the next one. I think I'm going to land on Montel Jackson, but, and that's a tough-ass fight for Patchy Macs, man. Oof.
Starting point is 00:39:33 Montel Jackson's a hard, hard to fist fight. That's a really hard fight. Really hard fight. But that's probably where you go. All right, let's go to the peeps. I believe. Did you run down the results of the prelim? Osmae Mersichana, knocks up Brenton-Ribiro.
Starting point is 00:39:49 Waldo Cortez-A-Costa did Waldo Cortez-A-Costa things. And there are other things that happened as well, but I want to get to the peeps because there's a lot happening right now. The other things that happened were Andreas Gustafson, defeated Chaos Williams. Holy demon that guy is. Jeez, Louise.
Starting point is 00:40:05 Cash and an underdog taking on Gustafin, feeling good about that. Dana White is at the presser. Oh, Dana White's a Josh Van finish. Josh Van was great. Bruno Silva. The climb continues. The climb continues.
Starting point is 00:40:16 Wang Tong beats the Silva U.D. Uju Song, knocked out Jekisargi. That's going to be in the knockout of the air list for sure. It is certainly on the short list for that. Quillensalke, defeat Yanla-Schmoos being a decision. And Mark El-Madero's opened things up with a UD win over Mark Chowinski. So that is the full rundown of UFC 316.
Starting point is 00:40:39 All right. Super Chatters. Let's get these. Let's rifle through these. Jed and I have been talking for literally like six hours straight. I'm surprisingly spry because that card was good. Yeah. Like that was a fun card.
Starting point is 00:40:53 and I did not think that card would be good. Jake, what would you rather watch Harrison versus Nunes or Katie Taylor versus Amanda Serrano 3? Harrison Nunes, not close. I've seen Katie Taylor and Amanda Serrano box twice. They were both excellent and quite competitive and fun. I've seen them twice and I will, I love boxing. I really love high-level boxing.
Starting point is 00:41:15 I'll always pick high-level MMA over high-level boxing. And that's, again, this is the best fight that can be made. in women's mixed martial arts give me that fight i'm actually like i'm with you on that but i'm actually just super excited about what comes next out of this car like marab cori sandhagen is super interesting i think if there's honestly i think the only guy in this division right now who could give marab like a really weird fight that like i'm kind of confused by right now it's san hagen man corey will have a plan i don't know whether the plan will work but he will have the plan Yeah. So I'm fascinated by that, and obviously Harrison and Nunes is all good.
Starting point is 00:41:57 Post-JFC 316 fantasy draft tallies, AK 2075, KC 2075. I don't know that that's true. I have 1400, Damon, 1175, Jet 9-8-8-8 definitely doesn't have 2075. So who's, oh, Girmay. I mean, Gareme has very few points, but. Gereme is 575. I haven't, this isn't updated for things. So maybe that adjusted, but.
Starting point is 00:42:21 Oh, maybe. The post- Fantasy update is Casey is one. It's over. With Marab getting a finish and a bonus? AK doesn't have 2075. Casey's going to have more than 20. Yeah, plus Casey has Charles still fighting and Manilkov still. Like Casey's won.
Starting point is 00:42:42 It's done. It's done, Dale. Yeah, Casey drafted terrifically. They did a great job. I'm really proud of them. He took a lot of champions and then they fought. Marob fought twice. Marob is currently the fighter of the year.
Starting point is 00:42:51 frontrunner. If you draft a fighter of the frontrunner, you're probably going to be doing pretty well. Yes. Stephen, is beating a man once enough for Kayla to become the greatest women's fighter of all time, or does true legacy require a reign, not just a crowning moment? Buddy, that depends.
Starting point is 00:43:08 I believe it requires a rain and a long period of established dominance at the very tippity top of the sport. My comments are constantly filled with people telling me that I'm an asshole and wrong because Marab is the goat banter. weight and Alex is the goat featherweight and every current champion is the goat because
Starting point is 00:43:27 now I don't believe beating Amanda gets it done I don't know what gets it done I'd have to think how many Kayla needs because I don't I've been following this sport a long time man sustained championship dominance is the hardest thing to do and that's why it happens so rarely so to me, no, plenty of people will disagree. And I guarantee you by the time that fight happens, that'll be one of the conversations is, you know, can Kayla Harrison establish yourself as the greatest woman's fighter of all time? That'll be up there.
Starting point is 00:44:04 So I don't agree. Others will disagree with that. Trying to find, like, highlights from Dana. Dana-Way confirms he is promoting Terrence Crawford versus Canella Alvarez. Okay. So, I mean, but again, it is Dana, so we don't know what's true. It's not. Next question.
Starting point is 00:44:24 Batista O'Malley. Sean needs a tune-up fight or move up to take on Diego, which is actually a better matchup. But he said O'Malley are fighting. Yeah. And plus those two will fight. But Batista ain't nobody's tuna fight. I don't like the man.
Starting point is 00:44:39 He's damn good. Yeah. And at the same time, Batista and O'Malley are teammates, their friends. They ain't fighting each other. So. But thank you. Sean versus Diego, then Volk. I'm telling you right now, like,
Starting point is 00:44:56 Sean will get, I don't even think Diego Lopez is that good. Diego would kill Sean. Diego is 30 pounds heavier than Sean O'Malley. Diego is an enormous feather weight. Sean is a moderately big bantam weight. They wouldn't give Sean Diego. Yeah, that would just, that would be promotional. They would do, they would give Sean Aljo.
Starting point is 00:45:16 And then if they're like, hey, we're, you're moving to featherweight, we want to get you a shot of the featherweight title. And that that is the plan. They will give him Al Jemal Jemalely and then they will just give him a title. Diego Lopez might actually be the worst possible style matchup for Sean Malley. Like legitimately. Moves-R would be pretty awful too. But Diego can't be hurt either.
Starting point is 00:45:34 So like, what's Sean going to do? Catch him. Diego will just be like, cool, my chin will hold up. And unlike Cheeto, who might spend a whole fight not throwing anything, that ain't going to be Diego. He's going to just be in his face, eat three counters and be like, oh, I outweigh you by 20 pounds. I'll tell you right now.
Starting point is 00:45:50 I can tackle you and sub you. I can just punch you real hard and beat you as a terrible fight. I'll tell you right now, I'd love to see Sean O'Malley versus Aaron Pico. Like, that'd be pretty wide. I think Aaron Pico absolutely defenestrates him. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:46:05 Maybe. Sean, I was just not a featherweight. I don't think he needs to be. Look, a year ago, I'm trying to think the exact timeline. Corey was dead.
Starting point is 00:46:16 He's like, well, he just lost Umar. Guess he's never fighting for, the belt. That man is next in line. I don't think anybody really said that. I mean, that that's the thing. No, but at that time, he had lost every big opportunity and Umar's in play and everybody's in front of him. Umar and Peotriot-onor in front of him. Figgies in front of him. Like it, and now suddenly a year later, you just, you don't have to force the issue. You don't
Starting point is 00:46:39 have to run away. Hang tight. Get a win in the way class where you were a champion and see. Things might break okay for you. You never know. Give it some time. we'll see as long as marab's champion he's in but again there is precedent max hallway perfect example made his way back to a third fight even though nobody thought it was possible so we'll see the ufc loves john o'malley they will give him as many opportunities as possible spencer felt the viking bloodlust out there from gustavson to jedd at all see potential in adopting him as his medium silly violence on in the future let me just say this the first round of that fight was brutal to watch. It was not fun at all. And then we understood why Gossipson was doing what he was doing
Starting point is 00:47:27 because he just melted poor Chaos Williams after that. He killed him. Like that was a vicious and brutal beatdown. Never seen chaos just get run over like that. So I was very impressed. I caught of my chickens. Then they hatch and I was like, damn, this guy's really good. Thoughts on Gussifson. You're our contender series guy. grade these prospects. Did you see anything in him where you're like, this doesn't surprise you at all or did this performance surprise you? Oh, I thought he was going to win.
Starting point is 00:47:59 I bet him. I don't see like a long term viability to him. He's already old. He's like 30 something. But like he is, he is physical, obviously. As we saw, like he's a very physical,
Starting point is 00:48:12 scrappy, can get in your face, hard-nosed kind of dude. You can certainly wrestle his ass off and like force that issue. but I don't think he has like top tier talent and he's already old. But I do think he's a dude who's going to hang around and be fun. You know, like he will be in good fights,
Starting point is 00:48:29 maybe not amazing fights, but he will get, he'll give you your money's worth. And so that's a dude who can hang around for a long time and just compete. Dana's reaction to the petition to strip John Jones of the heavyweight title. It's kind of effing silly. I mean, that's true.
Starting point is 00:48:46 It is. It is really dumb. But, you know. But maybe, you know, ask him about actually stripping him with the belt when John has literally said on Twitter, I'm giving up the belt. I don't want the belt. I'm not going to fight that dude. Okay. We'll see if we can give you some more updates. You guys are crazy. Whatever the F and not no pick is, that's it, Batista O'D or Diego for Sean. It will not be Mario Batista. Their teammates. They're not going to fight each other. But thank you, Cameron, for the money. Also, again, Diego would keep. kill him, that would be a stupid fight. Diego should fight Yair at UFC, Mexico.
Starting point is 00:49:25 That's the fight. Or not Mexico. I guess now it's Noce, whatever. It's still Noce. Yeah. That should be the main event for that card. Anything else is just wrong, unless you're giving Brandon Moreno a flyaway title shot.
Starting point is 00:49:35 Correct. Next. Or Marina Horror Grochie would be a pretty banging main event. Yeah, we should be doing that. That should be the co-made event to Diego. Five-round co-main. That's fine. Yep.
Starting point is 00:49:47 Love that. That problem solved. We booked it. You're welcome, McBadner. You've done it again. Next. Oh, there it is. Asmat is a problem at 205.
Starting point is 00:49:54 Can you hold the title one day? What do you think of Josh Vans future? He reminds me of a mini-max holloway. So could Asmet Merzikanov be a UFC champion? Yeah, because 205 is terrible. And like, I like Asimat. I think he's fun.
Starting point is 00:50:08 But like, Azmat should never hold the belt. But I mean, this is a weight class where Jan Boehovic was champion. You know, like, Jamal Hill was champion in this weight class. Like, these are okay, fighters, good fighters even. Osamont's good and dangerous. His weight class
Starting point is 00:50:22 trash. And so I would not bet that he fights, that he holds the belt. I'm not even sure I bet that he fights for the belt. But you can't count anything out at 205. That way class is wide ass open. This, you know, also, again, Brinson Naberro.
Starting point is 00:50:38 Exactly. Is Brinson Navarro. That's a man who's never defended a punch in his life fighting against the dude who swings a big hammer. The outcome of that fight was well expected. Yeah. I mean, look, he's good. He's dangerous. He's fun, vicious power. He's good. But I think we got a slow role. Brenton-Robera's like perfect stylistic replacement for him.
Starting point is 00:51:02 It's just not that, like that result in surprise anybody, but he did what he was supposed to do in that situation. That's all. And that's all you can do. He was supposed to get Johnny Walker. He didn't, you know, that next best thing. Yeah. The discount version. Now, a guy who I'm very confident will fight for a belt, as is you, is Josh Van, who just can take 23 years old, man. It's really good. He could.
Starting point is 00:51:28 It's really good. So, let's see. What's the, so today is June 8th, 2025. I think he turns 24 in, like, in July, but let me look that up. By June 8th. Oh, in October. Sorry. By June 8th, 2027 is Josh Van, UFC Flyway champion?
Starting point is 00:51:45 I will say no, but only because here's the thing. going to fight for the belt by then he will fight for the belt i've been saying it now for about a year flyweight is the next band of weight it is there are so many super young super talented dudes josh man might be the best of them like that's very possible tatsura tair is 25 you know um um uh i'm trying who's the other japanese kid who josh van just beat but it's still young and very good um uh forgive me it's It's currently two in the morning. My brain's not firing on all cylinders right now.
Starting point is 00:52:22 I could see him. I could draw a picture of him better that I could say his name right now. Yeah, but Lonnie Kavanaugh is like 23 and coming along. Like there are, there's a whole crop of flyweight emerging. Ray Saruya. Ray Saruya, that is it. Shout out. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:52:40 Shout out Google. There's a whole crop of Ramadan Timorov actually. He's not young, but he's coming through now. That's cool. whole crop of young dudes less than 27 years old from contender series of various places who are just hot shit guys
Starting point is 00:52:56 and Joshman might be the best of them I would still maybe favorite Tatsu or Tahrir Moham Mekyev probably going to return to the UFC before too terribly long he's obviously he's one of the five best fighters already in the way across like I think he's certainly
Starting point is 00:53:09 going to fight for it wouldn't shock me and to RS40's credit I comped him to this man on the watch party definitely has some Max Holloway to his game. Like a young guy got a lot of talent. You know, he don't have Max's chin because not many people have Max's chin.
Starting point is 00:53:25 But I would say keep an eye on Josh Van because I think he's fighting for a belt sooner rather than later. Some more Dana White quotes. Let's see. White says he's been too busy to keep up with the gossip surrounding John Jones says that Jones is back home and on Tuesday they'll figure it out. White says that Tom Aspinnell is the, the guy and if Jones wants to retire
Starting point is 00:53:48 and doesn't want to keep fighting that there's nothing that he can do he says that he will do what they can to make the fight. We did it boys and girls. It's over. Our long national nightmare is over because that's the first time Dana said that. Dana has always been like, no, we're going to make
Starting point is 00:54:04 the fight. When GSP retires like GSP ain't retired, he's got to fight Johnny Hendricks. When Dana is acknowledging if John's done, that means John's done. Because Dana wouldn't say that's a possibility unless it's the outcome. We're out of here with that.
Starting point is 00:54:22 Let's move on to new business. I guess Cyril Gahn versus Tom Aspinall's next. Let's see. What else is you say? John has been John says he walked through the door and says that things don't always go the way they have it planned. Wow. What happened to the 100% guarantee?
Starting point is 00:54:39 Above that. It's not happening. I've been telling you for a long time. Yeah, we've been there literally since UFC 309 and those two guys aren't fighting. again for the billionth time. Don't blame John at all. If I were in his corner, I would tell him to retire.
Starting point is 00:54:53 He's had an incredible career, very possibly the best career that's ever been had. You finangled the steep A thing. It was ludicrous, but you pulled it off. That's prize fighting, baby. You did great. Good on you. He conferred a man Nunes not in the testing pool just yet,
Starting point is 00:55:10 but again, they could just exempt and she could just fight. Yeah, the testing pool doesn't really matter. I mean it was always a little fictitious now it's a complete fake it's not really interested in trying to bring back Francis and Gano no surprise there and the other thing Dana White says a low riser with fans
Starting point is 00:55:29 collapsed when Rob walked to the cage and says thankfully it wasn't as high up as the last time it happened in Vancouver that is thankful also the least surprising thing in the world I love I love all of you all if you're watching right now I'm a huge fan of you thank you so much for being here I love all of our and compatriots in the medium.
Starting point is 00:55:47 Like, very smart people who yesterday were very stupid for a brief moment in time when the, when the, uh, Francis stuff came out of Francis's coach saying he'd be, I'm pretty sure. But Eric Nexick has literally been telling me since Francis. Yeah, I'm pretty sure. And then suddenly you've got really smart people. I won't name because I don't want to call them out because I respect them a lot. Are like, UFC should make an offer.
Starting point is 00:56:11 That'd be a pretty big fight. Like, yeah, okay. Is it, it's your first? here. It's your first day here. They're not going to. Well, you know, Dana said he wouldn't work with Tito. That was 20 years ago. Do you think the Dana of 20 years ago and the Dana of today are the same? No, Dana's never going to work with Francis ever again because the only thing that could make him do it is so much money that he would have to say yes. And that isn't a thing that happens because the UFC already
Starting point is 00:56:40 makes all of the money with or without Francis. They don't need Francis. They don't need John Jones. They don't need Connor. They don't need anybody. And Dana will spite not do it. Like it's no, it was obviously an outrageous thing for very smart people to just kind of, kind of brain fart because it should. Because reasonably Francis should come back.
Starting point is 00:57:04 That is that makes all the sense in the world. That's not happening. So yeah, obviously silly. Guys, I'm sorry. It's Tom versus Zero Khan. I know no one wants that. that's what's happening. Or your idea of Tom Asphenol versus
Starting point is 00:57:19 is 100% what should happen. Alex Pereira. Or my idea. If Dana comes to Atlanta, I'm just going to ask him. That's honestly the question I'll ask, Dana. It comes to Atlanta.
Starting point is 00:57:28 I'll be like, this has no relevance to this week whatsoever. Who gives a shit about Alex Pereira versus Magnaecl. I have two. Just do Alex versus Tom. Yeah. That's my question,
Starting point is 00:57:38 Dana. Respond to it how you will. All right. Let's get some super chats out of the way. If there's any left and we'll get the hell out of here. Is Aljo versus Marab the best? Bannamway fight that never happened?
Starting point is 00:57:48 No, Dominic Cruz versus you name them at this point. I'm trying to think what is the best bandway fight that never happened. Because also that's not a fight that ever could have happened. So it's just not... Uriahe versus T.J. Dillishaw? That was like one of the biggest rivalries.
Starting point is 00:58:05 That fight would not have been competitive. Legitimately, I mean, this was also like, give me Prime T. TJ versus Marab. That would be sick. Do you kind of think T. would win but also Maraub is still probably just Maraub him. Cruz versus Aldo.
Starting point is 00:58:21 I mean that that would have been great. I'm trying what is the best Banim weight fight? Actually, it's dominant Cruz Hindenbrow that's really what it is. Because like that fight should have happened
Starting point is 00:58:34 and her champs never and it fell apart and that I mean that fire would have been sick. So yeah, I'll go with that one because this fight never could have happened. Uh, Walterway gets him better with KH into the top 15. How many more wins is Marabney to unquestionably be the best band way to ever?
Starting point is 00:58:53 Appreciate it the hell out of you all. To unquestionably, probably two, three. I mean, to be undeniably not a human being alive could make any reasonable case, three. Probably two is enough. I think he beat Sanagan convincingly. I think the conversation's over. I it's not the conversation
Starting point is 00:59:17 in your and I respect your opinion but in my eyes I will declare Maradoisle the ban of the well no the point is
Starting point is 00:59:24 unquestionably you can believe unquestionably in today's world unquestionable no unquestionably three it is unquestionable
Starting point is 00:59:32 uh it's probably unquestionable it too he has four title offenses with everything else there's not really going to be a
Starting point is 00:59:39 reasonable person who denies it at that point um people are already saying it and he has two. If he gets another one, I think if he does, I do agree with you that if he beats Corey, if he finishes Corey, um, everyone's going to look at me like I'm an asshole for being like it's, it's still dumb.
Starting point is 00:59:57 Um, I will be by far the minority at that point. They'll also believe I'm correct. Next. What kind of music we all been listening to? Um, I listen to music in, like, situations. So like I have my gym playlist. I listen to that. I have my driving playlist.
Starting point is 01:00:22 I listen to like 90s music. Listen to different music when I'm golfing. So it's a mix. Yeah. A lot of a lot of 90s, just general bangers. And then a lot of electronica female vocalist pop. Word. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:44 I mean, my presets in the, in the car. I mean, literally, there's a 60s preset, classic rock. I mean, literally everything, 90s, early 2000s, serious XM fly friggin slaps. I mean, lithium,
Starting point is 01:01:02 just depends on the vibe. Depends on what's going on. But I'm more of an old, old school guy. I think new music, for the most part, stinks. It's very bad.
Starting point is 01:01:11 I like almost all music. I'm less inclined to like today's music. But that's just part of being older. Though there's still plenty of bangers. But I listen to almost everything other than modern country. I never took to that. Next. There anything else?
Starting point is 01:01:32 Heck, cosplaying us to Texas around. I was like, Michael Weston sucks. This guy sucks. You are. He's terrible. Austin 316. Jake the snake. This guy is just terrible.
Starting point is 01:01:44 I see all the comments he's making. It's just being an absolute dink. Michael, I don't see him because if I did, you're getting rich. Yeah. You're out of here. Dink. Next up, Casey. Wrap it up, boys.
Starting point is 01:02:02 Well, I would, except for. There's one more super chat. There's at least one super chat. And then we'll wrap it up. With Sean versus Batista, stop saying Sean versus Batista. It's never going to happen. Where Sean versus Diego goes down, I get to co-host, no bets bar. They're on the same team, but definitely not mates.
Starting point is 01:02:18 It's going to happen. You don't. You don't. Sorry. Even if this happens, you can come and gloat and be like, ha, ha, I am correct. It has to be neck. You know what?
Starting point is 01:02:30 I'll throw this out there, Cameron. You can come on on to the next one. But it has to be next. This is not a forever offer. If Sean O'Malley's next fight. That's a good stipulation. If Sean O'Malley's next fight is not against Mario Batista or Diego Lopez, you're out.
Starting point is 01:02:46 That's it. But there's got to be some, like the confidence level that you have. that either these fights are going to happen. You have to put something on the line too. We all get a little liquid courage in us after a night of watching fistfights with our mates. This has to be, I mean, dude, this has to be, like, you have to put something on the line with the confidence that you're putting out here right now. I'll say that. Are we good?
Starting point is 01:03:10 Is that it? When is the post show happening? What is happening right now? Look at the top of the screen. You are part of it, sir. You are part of the post show. All right. I don't know if there's music playing in the background.
Starting point is 01:03:27 I don't know. Who can say? Who can say? But guys, the beauty of this is we're going to clip this right out of this whole watch party stream. Thank you. We'll see, Cam. I want to know what you're going to put on the line here.
Starting point is 01:03:40 Thanks for joining, we appreciate you guys. It's been a long night, honestly, but a fun night. Honestly, I've had a great night. This is, I can't tell you how much better this is.
Starting point is 01:03:52 And then we get 317. I was. super prepared for this to suck and i had a great time uh you'll see it landa next week 315 was good 316 solid 317 15 was okay 315 was okay 315 was okay 315 was good 318 should should be good 318 we got poor he's final fight 380 sure he always gonna roll and we got ddp versus hamzat 319 going to be unreasonable at that fight i can't wait for 319 it's gonna be a great time. It's a good time.
Starting point is 01:04:26 I don't go away for everybody. Let's go. Thank you all so much. We appreciate you. A.K. and I live 1 p.m. Eastern tomorrow. We're going to let you all sleep in tomorrow.
Starting point is 01:04:36 Okay? 1 p.m. Eastern. On to the next one right here on this channel. You can watch the rest of the Post-Fight Press conference. We appreciate you. Casey, you're the man. We love you guys.
Starting point is 01:04:45 Good night, everybody. Love y'all.

There aren't comments yet for this episode. Click on any sentence in the transcript to leave a comment.