MMA Fighting - UFC 320 Post-Fight Show | Reaction To Alex Pereira Destroying Magomed Ankalaev To Regain Title
Episode Date: October 5, 2025Alex Pereira not only defeated Magomed Ankalaev in their rematch at UFC 320, but he made it look easy, needing only 80 seconds to get the knockout victory. Now that Pereira has exacted revenge, where... does "Poatan" go after adding another highlight to his already incredible reel? Following Saturday's pay-per-view event, MMA Fighting's Mike Heck and Jed Meshew react to a wild night in Las Vegas, Pereira's incredible performance, if he remains at 205, or moves up to heavyweight to fight Jon Jones. Additionally, they discuss Merab Dvalishvili's successful bantamweight title defense against Cory Sandhagen in the co-main event and what could be next for the dominant champ, Jiri Prochazka's insane comeback knockout of Khalil Rountree, the bonus winners and if the UFC got them right, Patchy Mix falling to 0-2 in the UFC, and much more. Follow Mike Heck: @m_heckjr Follow Jed Meshew: @JedKMeshew Subscribe: http://goo.gl/dYpsgH Check out our full video catalog: http://goo.gl/u8VvLi Visit our playlists: http://goo.gl/eFhsvM Like MMAF on Facebook: http://goo.gl/uhdg7Z Follow on Twitter: http://goo.gl/nOATUI Read More: http://www.mmafighting.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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All right, folks, you hear them.
The old victory drums.
And they sound for Poetan.
Shama, Alex Pereira, once again,
the UFC light heavyweight champion of the world.
He just decimates, destroys Magamette and Goliath in round one
to regain the UFC light heavyweight championship.
A lot of people were counting him out.
I thought Uncle I was going to win the fight.
My man, Jen Mishu over here,
I thought Uncle I was going to win the fight.
But Alex Pereira,
we kind of realized 10 seconds into this fight,
less than that,
that this was going to be a whole different affair.
Alex Pereira moving forward,
being really aggressive,
and he gets the knockout.
Maraud Walsh, Willie,
retains the UFC Bannamway title,
winning four rounds to one over Corey Sandhagen.
Yuri Perashka delivers one of the greatest moments of 2025,
and a whole bunch of other things happened at the event as well.
Thank you for joining.
We're joining us on the post-fight show.
I am Mike Heck.
That is Jed Mishu.
And Jed, I got to tell you, UFC 320, pretty fun card.
It's going to give us a lot of stuff to talk about.
The UFC made us miss pay-per-view events, six weeks without one.
Come back, five fights in the main card.
We had four finishes.
We had Marab doing Marab things.
And it ended with Alex Pereira doing the Shama thing.
So all in all, how would you grade UFC 320?
I would say this is probably one of the three to four best paper views of the year
without like being able to list them with the pen and paper.
But yeah, this is pretty damn good.
Was it not?
Was it an A.
To me, this is an obvious A for a card.
It looked solid on paper.
Maybe a little underwhelming.
Could have maybe used like a touch more juice or like very quibbley remarks to make about it
because mostly it's just like, oh.
Three really great fights and some other meaningful ones.
So we get there and they all deliver, right?
Like the main card was fire.
I don't like Joe Piper.
We'll talk about that, I'm sure.
Good little performance room and come back win.
Nice finish.
Impressive finish from Yusuf Zalal.
Uri Pajga, my beautiful baby boy.
Just being the most year.
Like the most Yuri Per Haska fight you could probably ever have.
Come back of the year round.
of the year perhaps.
Going to win five of the night.
We haven't heard bonuses yet.
That's going to win fight of the night.
Co-main event was significant and impressive,
not the most entertaining,
but impressive and important.
And then Alex Pereira continues
this remarkable run in the main event.
Like, if you bought this on pay-per-view
for 80 bucks, you got your money's worth.
If you attended the event,
you're leaving that night happy.
This is the UFC doing,
you know, this is the UFC on its day game
and delivering.
So a card, for sure, one of the better ones of the year.
Had a great time.
Yeah, it was a great card.
What an ending.
Alex Pereira getting, you know, this is old adage in the pro wrestling world that
WWE always sent fans home happy.
It was always Hogan must pose.
And that's kind of what they got here.
Poetan must pose.
He did the meme thing.
And the crowd went absolutely bananas.
They went ballistic for him.
I got to say, even just kind of looking at the odds,
I didn't realize that Pereira by chaos is plus 310 because I would absolutely bet that.
Seems pretty wild.
And I didn't even really look at that because I didn't think it was even a possibility that that was the case.
I did not at all check that out.
I did cash on this fight, but I didn't look at that one.
On the list of things that might surprise you in this fight,
was Pereer just going out and nuking Ancolaev without any real opposition in the first couple minutes of this fight?
where did that rank on the list of surprising outcomes it's surprising that happened so easily but
my position heading into this fight i i did not know what to expect i there were just so many
left over questions from that first fight um new questions not even left over questions that were
raised because of like what sort of shape was alex and you know did uncle i have his best performance
etc. The thing that I felt the best about that I think I was pretty right on, frankly, is I don't know who's going to win. I think the fight's going to look entirely different than the first fight. That was the thing I kept saying all week. Perera is coming in to send a message. He's not going to go out the same way. If he loses, it's not going to be because he lost another tepid kickboxing bout. He's going to come in to throw hands. Uncle I have is going to meet him in the middle in that regard. He's high on the hog right now, feeling himself.
And I do think that's what happened.
And my stance was, I don't know who's going to win that fight.
Either guy can land and win.
Obviously, Pereira is the one who did.
I think if they fought that sort of fight over and over again,
Pereira wins more often than not.
A thing that I didn't notice in real time,
because it all happened so quickly,
but saw some people point out,
deeply interesting that Magerman and Goliath fought the first fight entirely in Southball,
went 25 minutes.
he was in Orthodox for about 20 seconds
caught a right hand and died
so it's
perhaps we're draw
that's a it's a small sample size
to draw a conclusion
but the moment he was not in South Paul
Alex ended his existence
so maybe next time
if there is one you should go back
but most of the takeaway is
we'll never know for sure
Alex sure seemed like himself
self tonight, the Alex Pereira, we've come to know. And, uh, that first fight clearly was the
anomaly. This feels more true to the rivalry, the, the matchup. Well, apparently, I mean, based on what
I'm seeing here and what the social sphere is saying as well, uh, Pereira was like kicking and landing
and hurt him. Yeah. And kind of forced him to switch. I mean, the thing is he let, he leg kicked in the
first one and uncle I was just like, that's fine. I'll keep standing here. And I'm not,
none of this is taking a single thing away from Alex Pereira it is just to note the moment that
uncle I have was not in because Alex has sort of a history of struggling against South Falls in general
it's just not as comfortable a fight for him um the moment he wasn't he laid the lumber down
you know game over yeah hell of a performance he gets it done and now things are really
interesting right now because
Carl Solberg was sitting
cage side and after watching
Yuri Perashka do Yuri things and we will talk
about that without question
he was definitely worried that was a worried man
and even before the fight
I think he was a worried man
the energy levels changed from last
week after he beat Dominic Reyes
it was like I'm fighting for the belt next
I'm undeniable to
hey I'll fight Yuri or Khalil next
if I have to if that's what gets me to
a title fight and we've been saying
pretty much all along that in Magamadankalai if won,
Carl Solberg was absolutely effed. He had no chance of getting a title shot.
The Yuri Kalil winner was going to get it,
especially after with Yuri, what Yuri did,
there's no chance Oliver was getting a title fight.
He was going to have to either wait for a year to fight for the belt
or he's going to have to fight somebody else.
And now we're at an interesting thing right now because,
yes, Alex Pereer beat Yuri Perashka on a couple of different occasions.
One was the MSG fight.
It was kind of the weird stoppage.
People were kind of upset about it.
And then the rematch happens, but it was on relative,
it was on super short notice because Connor McGregor could not fight Michael Chandler.
They had to whip together a main event in a matter of weeks.
Both those guys stepped in prayer colded him again.
So knowing how the UFC does business and knowing that the UFC is about to head into this huge
multi-billion dollar deal with Paramount.
what do you think the UFC does here?
Do you think they go with Pereira versus Ulberg?
Do you think they go with Pereira versus Year E3?
Or do you think they just say,
F it, let's do an interim title fight?
Because it didn't seem like Pereira was like in an air hurry to put the belt down.
What do you think happens?
That is the last time Alex Pereira fights for the title at 205 pounds.
He's not going to lay it down because why would he?
There's no need if the U.S.
is going to let him hold it.
But the U.C. has recently been pretty prone to not allowing champions to hold titles.
Maybe they make an exception for him, but they didn't make one for Islam.
And Islam holding the lightweight belt held a potential Tupuria matchup to it, right?
Like he moves up, fails, comes right back.
He and Tepuri lock horns if Tepri's interim champion.
They didn't let him do it.
Zhang Wili, who is the most deserving fighter active in the sport to get to hold the title
if she wanted to.
She's not.
It's a vacant belt going up for grabs at 115 as she moves up.
My guess is they wouldn't let Alex hold it if he wants to go up to heavyweight.
I think that's on the table.
I don't think that's what happens.
I think Alex is smart enough.
He knows business enough.
The UFC knows business enough.
That man flies the UFC 321.
He is sitting caged side for Tom Aspinol, Cyril, gone.
It doesn't necessarily mean he fights the winner,
but he is there to create the opportunity to build that,
fight to at least get the
Twitter sphere talking
get all the tweets happening
well here's
I'm here to tell you right now I said
this I think I said this last
week on submission radio is the first
place I put it out maybe it was even
before then putting it out here on the
MMA fighting airways for the very first time
it's a great website we're going to clip
this so everybody can know
I'm the guy
this is my take standing on this
take and I had this take before that
post-fight call-out.
I don't know if you've heard.
There's a fight card happening next year on the White House lawn.
Have you heard about that, Mike?
They're fighting at the White House?
The weekend before July 4th, actually.
Oh, wow.
On the White House lawn, they got mark.
They've got mock-ups.
It's looking to be quite the event.
A lot of fighters trying to fight at that event.
Would you like to guess who is trying to fight at that event?
There's a big name fighter.
Sean Amalley.
I mean, he probably is, but that's not the one I'm talking about.
There's a guy I don't know if you've ever heard of a man named Jonathan Jones.
Jonathan Dwight Jones.
He is trying to fight in that card.
Dana White has said John Jones will not fight on that card.
But the thing is, Dana doesn't want John to fight it because John's not reliable.
That's from the horse's mouth.
Dana has said, I can't trust him to show him.
show up and he can't trust him, not because of the UFC 151 fiasco, not because of the myriad
issues John has had legally or with USADA, et cetera, because Dana specifically said, those are
not why I can't trust him. He can't trust him because John spent four, five, six months,
whatever it was saying, I'm going to fight Tom Aspinall. That's fine. I'm open to doing it.
And then he just bailed because he didn't want to fight Tom Aspinall. Because by all reporting out
there. As far as I can tell, it is true that John made an ask, the UFC met his ask,
and John said, never mind, I'm not going to fight him. And so Dana can't trust him.
But that's just because John don't want to fight Tom Aspinall.
Yeah, well, we already knew that. He's never wanted to fight Tom Aspin. He's not interested.
He wants to fight Alex Pereira. It doesn't make sense if John's the heavyweight champion.
John's not the heavyweight champion. It doesn't make sense if Alex.
is the light heavyweight champion.
Alex doesn't have to be the light heavyweight champion.
And what makes the most sense, Mike, is that the White House card, people are like,
what's going to headline?
Connor McGregor being thrown out, I think that's very possible.
A title fight doesn't belong at the White House because that show is a spectacle.
It's grandiose.
It's ludicrous.
It's pretty ridiculous to be happening.
A title fight happens in a normal arena in the normal course of business.
This is the first UFC on the moon
Doesn't need to be a bantamweight title fight for it needs to be
We're out fighting on the moon
It would be pretty fun
I don't know how great he'd be
But it would be it doesn't need to be that
It needs to be the most over the top wild shit possible
And Connor McGregor Michael Chandler in the main event
And John Jones Alex Pereira for the BMF heavyweight
Goat belt whatever you want
You could call it anything you want
they fight for a fake title
both men won it
every fan would lock in
nobody would care that it's not for a real belt
and it fits at the white
it is the thing that gets the White House card
over outside of it just being the White House
that's what's happening
that's my ought no prediction I want that on record
everything I said up to and including
co-main event to Connor McGregor Michael Chandler's name
I see somebody saying that
John Jones does not want to fight the Alex
Pereira that fought tonight.
That is deeply untrue.
That is deeply untrue.
That man has been wanting to fight Alex Pereira for well over two years.
And do you want to know why he believes he can win that fight?
Because he will tackle Alex Pereira.
He has a high level of confidence.
He can win that fight.
Yeah.
He will outweigh Alex Pereira by like 15 pounds.
He will tackle him and that fight will be like that.
Now could he get cracked?
Certainly.
Of course he can.
It could always happen.
It could always happen.
That fight, everybody's in on that.
fight. I'm in on that fight. It doesn't need to be for the belt. The need to be. And with John
not having the heavyweight. That was the whole thing I said at the time. John just needs
to vacate the belt and I'll give a shit what he does. That's what we all said. Yeah. And that's it.
Tom can do the work of being the heavyweight champion. These two dudes can do a super fun,
super fight. And, you know, Carlos Seldberg can fight Yuri Perashka for the vacant belt.
Perfect. I'm totally fine with that. So we shall see. What's next for Maga Ben and Goliath?
Where does he go?
I think this was...
It was really, really bad loss.
This is a really bad night for him.
Just the way it happened is very tough.
It's very bad.
Corey San Hagan's in trouble.
Patchy mixes in deep shit,
which we'll talk about later on as well.
But boy, this is about as bad as a good get from Maguaglanca.
It's pretty tough.
I will say the one saving grace.
This was my take beforehand.
Don't change anything.
Light heavyweight is a bad division.
And he's a little bit more insulated from this side of
loss, especially with Alex.
Probably either way, it seems really unlikely.
Maybe, maybe Alex fights Carlos Elberg.
I cannot see him fighting anyone else beyond that one title of defense.
And then he's doing other things, whatever those things may be.
And so Uncle I was in the mix with Alex as a short timer.
But this is about as bad as it could have gone.
There were people who argued that Alex won the first fight, certainly.
And there were a lot of people that were like, well, maybe Unk won, but Alex
looked like ass.
And all of those people are now, to some extent, validly vindicated.
And be like, yeah, look, that's real Alex.
You ain't, you're not him.
And so that's such a bad loss that if Alex says vacate, he doesn't get to fight in the vacant title fight.
It's all berguerie for sure.
Uncle is going to have to beat somebody.
You know, I don't know who that is.
There are plenty of options you could do.
Because the other thing like Uncle have actually, he's fought some dudes, but he hasn't fought a lot of the top.
top guys or like the currently top top guys um i don't think they'd run yon back just because that
fight made people so angry the yon bohoevitch fight um yeah they would that fight will never happen again
could do that um you know keel i know we'll talk about cleo coming off very tough loss and probably
an extended layoff in his future but that fights out there uh jamal hills out there he's going to
he's going to do that as a mersikonov is going to just run over his fight's
He's fake rackets, right?
Yeah, he's going to smoke that's correct.
And I think that's at, is that three, that's three 21.
Yeah.
That's the main card opener three.
I mean, I don't know what their relationship is, but if they're not like training partners or anything, that that's, that's who he should be fighting.
Um, yeah, that's totally fine.
I, no wrong way to eat the Reese is for him, really.
Any dude in the top 15, um, a okay with it.
And that, that's, he's just going to have to get a couple of wins and buy his time.
You have two wins and he fights for a title again.
And if theoretically Alex is somehow still the champ
And he can put together a couple of wins
And Alex is defending
He does have a win over Alex
You can do a trilogy
It's not the most sellable thing
But that can't
He's not totally out of sorts
But that's about as battle loss
As you could take for him
Really really tough step back for his career
Yeah
The UFC was in very little rush
To give him a title fight
You could tell
Dana's reaction
There's a
There's a Getty photo
That just told you the whole story
In March UFC 313
Dana in the cage holding the belt
Knowing
Who would the champion
The worst thing that ever could have happened
To Moffsor Evlov was Marrieneke alive
Winning the belt
Was they're not doing two of those
You mean we might have to have two of those
You're never fighting EFLV
Maybe
Maybe the great Dean Thomas
We can get his take
And they can just
trade uncle I have to PFL for Dakota Dichima.
Let's let's let's all remember that Dean Thomas went on between the links and said into a live
microphone.
There's only one woman back and beat Kayla Harrison in a five round fight at 135 pounds.
Her name, Macy Chieson and boy oh boy.
I think that take is, uh, I thought Jason won the fight.
I want to be clear.
I actually did think she won it.
What?
Not a robbery.
I thought she got the second round.
Not a robbery at all.
Um, totally, totally.
reasonable. But I thought she had just a second round was a swing round. I thought she edged it.
And I mean, she certainly finished the fight very, very strongly, much more strongly than really
anything else happened. But yeah, tough, tough night for the Chiazong Packers. Yes, for sure.
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Marab Wallace, really.
He's really good at fighting.
He beat Corey Sanhagen.
This was not the Marab who just iced Sean O'Malley.
This was the Marab who beat Umar and beat Jan and beat Henry Sehudo and beat every guy along the way.
Erroneously was given a victory over Josaldo, who I will go to my death, believe it.
lost one fight at Panam White.
Yes.
I actually thought Corey Sanhagan
stylistically matched up pretty well
if he fought the fight that he could fight.
And in the first round, he sure did.
That was the Corey I thought we could see.
And then Marab dinged him bad in round two,
hurt him.
And Sanagrae was just never the same after that.
He had openings.
Marab gave him to him.
He got real timid.
He got real timid.
Stop throwing shots.
Stop moving forward.
And the moments he did move forward, he scored and did really well.
He hurt Marab at one point, stung him a little bit.
Looks like things were getting a little interesting.
But Marab's just an absolute demon out there.
Gets it done, wins four rounds to one.
Gets it done.
And yeah, and still.
Yeah, I had a slight misread on this fight.
I thought Marab was going to win.
I've almost climbed with him.
Didn't you talk me out of it.
I'd be a lot more mad about my climb.
bet was one of the easiest cashes that's ever happened.
So totally fought with it.
But, you know, this was a classic morale performance.
I thought that Corey, I think I was right about Corey.
I was just, I was wrong in how competitive he would be.
Because I was like, yeah, Corey's not going to win.
He's going to show some stuff.
He's going to look pretty decent at points.
He's going to lose because that's what he does.
And I think that's true.
the only real disappointment
I thought Corey would go for broke
when he got behind
and I don't know if that
if it's just because like
to me the fight really did shift
very heavily on the second round
when he got hurt
the fight was functionally over at that point
Corey just never
Corey had confidence in the first round
and then he didn't have any confidence
until the very end
he started to finally build some back up
but by that point Marab was
he's just a snowman
ball rolling downhill. You can't give him any momentum. He took all the momentum in that moment.
And you don't have to like him. And I don't, frankly, you cannot deny the efficacy and the greatness
of Maraud de Las Philly. He is, I think, definitively, the second greatest band and weight of all time now.
I think quite clearly not the greatest man of weight of all time. But that's probably moot because
by the end of his career he's going to be. I said, but I've been saying that for, I'm just,
saying that's the start of the year. If he beats Umar, he's going to end up being the goat.
Because once he beats Umar, there ain't nobody. And he beat Umar and there ain't nobody. He is going to be
your 20, 25 fighter of the year. Uh, I don't know anybody else who's in contention that may be
somebody I'm missing off the top of my head, but all things are, I think that's just your
fighter of the year and, uh, credit to him. Like he's, that's greatness. It is what he is.
We have bonuses, Jen.
Okay.
Care to take a guess?
A fight of the night is your perhaps could clear a roundtree.
Yes.
If that had not been.
They've had some real kooky shit this year.
I would have driven to Las Vegas.
I wouldn't have even flown.
I would have driven to Las Vegas and just knocked on the apex door until someone
answered.
And I could yell at them.
Trust me.
This might give it away.
There's going to be a questionable.
There's going to be a questionable one.
I'm going to be a questionable one.
I'm going to assume Alex Pereira got a bonus.
Yes.
As a performance.
So there's another bonus.
There's two more bonuses.
Oh, they gave a third performance bonus.
That's interesting.
All that.
I just don't think they're going to give it to your boy.
I'm going to say they gave Yeri the double.
Yeri gets a bonus there as well.
Okay.
So this one more.
Oh, well, I feel like you, it should go to use of the law.
Yep.
But I bet they.
gave it to Joe Pfeiffer.
They sure did.
Yeah, they did.
What did I tell you on the people's free fight?
I love that because they gave to others and it's just like, here's Joe's because we are
going to, boy, we're going to shove Joe Pfefer down your throat.
You're going to like that kid.
So we're not going to give it to Rames Brahimage, which is way cooler.
We're not going to give him to Shabazian.
We're not going to give it to Daniel Santos.
We're not giving it to Gautier.
I'm not giving it to use this a law.
I'm comfortable not giving it a Gautier.
Zalalal is the one that is up like the most egregious.
The dude went out there and tapped Josh Emmett in 90 seconds.
Yeah, that's the one that's by far the most egregious.
Yeah.
The fact that like.
Piper was impressive,
but that is not more,
Joe Pfeiffer was not more impressive than you still outside.
I'm sorry.
There's not.
He just wasn't.
It was a good win and an impressive way.
I'm not here to shit on that.
It's so transparent because they didn't even have like the forethought to be like,
we'll give four.
We'll make it special.
They're like,
no, here are the bonuses.
And we're giving Joe Piper a bonus because we are going to make Joe,
like we are going to make this do the thing.
Insofar as they are trying to build a star,
they believe in him in a way that far exceeds his actual capabilities,
frankly.
But it's like, no, yeah, he gets an extra one.
Because it was his better,
his no boy in hell is better than freaking Erie or Alex.
So it's just like, here are the obvious four bonuses that we would give.
And here's an extra special one for extra special boy who we love the most.
It is the participation trophy of bonuses.
And they didn't even have like the,
the smarts to give participation trophies to the other people was like,
oh, here's the coach's kid also get a trophy because we got to give the coaches kid one.
Yeah.
I, I said on the people's pre fight show to Dennis, I said Joe Piper.
I was like Joe Piper could win 3027 and he's going to get a bonus.
That is what's going to happen.
They're going to do every single thing they can to give him a bonus.
And that is what happened today.
They're so on brand.
Yeah.
This is,
this is to me,
I mean,
look,
it was a good finish.
It was a good performance with Joe Piper,
but to get a bonus over Yusuf Salal is friggin' insane.
Yeah,
that's.
Absolutely.
It's on brand.
Yeah.
Yes,
good one from Rob.
I don't know where he goes.
I mean,
sure,
you could do Mario Batista.
if he beats Umar.
I'm really not in a hurry to see Umar get run back.
I want to see Umar.
You shouldn't.
Umar's got time, man.
There's no need.
I think Maraub beats him again.
But like maybe in two years and Marab stays at Bannamweight, runs off like four or five
more defenses.
Yeah, I'm a little more intrigued by that.
But I'm certainly not interested in seeing it a year after it happened when Marab was 60%
in that fight.
So not really in a, uh, not really all that excited about that.
Sure, you could do Pierre Rion.
Like, I'm someone interested.
interested in that but marab just ran his ass over so badly that there's a part of me that like
doesn't want to see it and there's a part of me at this point it's just like i don't i'm really
not interested watching rob fight anybody in bannamway because he'll just win like i kind of want
to see this man challenged in some way and i actually thought cori san hagen might be the guy to do it
and super didn't happen after the first five minutes so great win from rob the guy's fantastic
he's going to be so hard to beat in a fist fight.
But let's move on to the moment of the night.
I do.
Oh, please, please.
I do want to push back slightly.
I don't like Marab.
I've made no bones about it.
I'll never question his greatness.
He's not to my taste.
I don't.
He is undeniably a great and effective fighter.
He fights in a way that I think is bad.
I just no other way to put it.
It's effective and it is not something I enjoy
and it's not something like
if all fighters were Marab, I would
not be a fan of the sport.
That being said,
I have limited interest in the Peoriaon fight
beyond its high level mixed martial arts.
It's meaningful and it's deserved.
Those are the things that are most important.
So fair, it should happen.
If Mario Batista, who again,
Mario Batista, I also don't like him.
If he beats him Mara, which I don't believe that he will, but if he does, I want that
fight, I'm interested in that fight.
I'll still pick Maraub to win that fight, certainly, but that's something new and different.
So that is where I'll be like, I'm with you to a point.
I still want to see him defend the belt because that's how greatness is established
in the sport.
But that is a fight that would, in fact, pull real intrigue outside of a perfunctory.
Got to watch it.
It's a title fight.
blah, blah, blah.
There you have it.
Can we talk about your repraschia now?
I'll spend my life talking about that, man.
That, I can't wait for this show to be over
only because I want to clip our reaction to that so badly.
My favorite is one of my favorite fighters all time.
Dude, down two rounds on all three judges'
scorecards to Cleo Roundtree, who fought so good.
Like, he looked fantastic in the fight.
We were so confused watching this.
this fight. I might just clip the whole fight.
You're slipping around.
I was confused. I was happy.
I was scared. I felt the full range of human emotions is the best.
Everyone thought like he tore his eight like I genuinely genuinely thought he hurt his knee.
He's slipping all over the cage.
Apparently he didn't. I don't understand what was happening at all.
And then at round two, he's just getting thumped up.
And then he's just like, you know what?
I'm going to start jabbing and showing my insane head movement.
I'm going to do something new this round.
It was like watching,
it was like watching Cody Garbrandt fight Dominic Cruz.
I was just like,
what the fuck is going on right now?
But Khalil is winning the round.
And then we get psychopath Yuri in round three.
Honestly, as cool as the finish was,
my favorite moment of that fight was round one
where Khalil hit him as hard as he possibly could.
And he got so pissed.
He just was like,
wow.
So the actual,
the actual Johnny,
drama, OUGA was just unbelievable.
He got
he got plunked so hard in the face
and like so hard and it happened
in a way where he was already like turning and walking
around that he just did the 180
looked him right in the face and went
I was like what
he does at least one thing
a fight I've never seen happen to a fight before
he's the best. He does a jumping knee into a right hand.
In the air here's the knee
still punching you while I'm falling back to Earth.
And then round three,
he just goes absolutely bananas.
And Cleo Roundtree is just a big dumb idiot button.
It's the best.
Cleo Roundtree's face as this is all happening.
It's just like,
what the fuck did I just get myself into?
Like what is happening right now?
Yeah, he pressed the crazy button.
Like the dude who started barking at that guy.
I don't remember what Mike Breeden?
Maybe it might.
I think it is Mike Breeden.
He's just like he just did that in the eerie way where he's not barking, but he's
eerie.
And he's just like, well, you're going to hit me a bunch and I simply do not care because
I'm going to sit.
I'm going to get as tight as I can and hit you with whatever piece of bone I can.
It's the bet.
He's, he is everything that's right in the sport.
Like, I, the love I have for Justin Gachie is permanent and forever.
And Gachie is almost on his way out of the sport.
will sad me in a way that is hard to put into words.
Yeri just is Justin Gae, but even weirder.
And so it's way more fun too.
Because Gaiji's like a relatively soft-spoken, kind of normal dude.
Yeri's a psycho who goes to college to learn to learn brain.
I went to college to learn brain for fight or like just the dumb.
Like shows up afterwards, walks out to the main event in a kimono just to watch.
cries because Alex got the belt back.
It's a man who's knocked him out twice,
who again, I can never say this enough,
accused Alex Pereira of cheating
because he brought Amazonian river spirits to the cage.
And not like a bit,
not like a racist shale son in they were feeding a bus a carrot bit.
Like he believes in his heart of hearts
that Alex Pereer is channeling Amazonian river spirits
to knock him out and not just a left hook or whatever.
But despite the fact that he thinks this man has some semi-devil worshipping deal with demons to defeat him, still cried tears of happiness that Alex was able to complete his martial arts journey.
He's the best thing in this sport.
He is my favorite fighter alive, and I hope he fights forever.
He just might.
He's the best.
He's so, he, they're so, so, so, so,
There's so few fighters in the sport who are genuinely one of one.
Yerey is absolutely one.
Like there ain't nobody who's ever been like him ever.
It's like,
like pieces of Tony Ferguson and Justin Gate,
but it's all wrapped up and he's the best.
And it made me so happy that he won in the,
it was the most yeary fight of all time.
Like, oh, I'm going to try.
He showed that he can compete.
Pete was like a technically good guy or whatever,
but was losing that part.
And then just went to crazy.
He just went to the crazy button.
He smashed the big red button in case of emergency.
And Cleo was like,
holy shit,
what's happening?
And then Cleo got brutally,
like brutally finished.
That was a really bad, man.
That was a really bad guy.
Because that's when,
that's what happens.
When Yeri presses the crazy button,
like you were talking about on the watch party.
He was how Dominic Gray has died.
because he can press the crazy button
and it's so, so
mega. I love him so
much. It didn't
matter what happened in the two main
fights and they were great. That
was everything I needed tonight. It was the best
man. I loved it so much.
Oh man. We mentioned Yusuf Zala,
quick finish of Josh Hammett, didn't even
not a beat of sweat, let that man's
body. Joe Piper
gets the bonus earning submission
win over the unranked of
Bootsamaga Madoff.
Atiba Gautier
Incredible
He finished
Can we put this in perspective please?
This is no
This is no shot at Joe Piper
Like really it isn't
I honestly thought that that's arguably his best performance in the BFC
Sure
Yusuf Salal finished Josh Emmett
Faster than Atiba Gotié finished
Traced on Vines
Yeah
That's fucking insane
The number eight guy in the world tapped him
like, Atta Bogotier fought a dude
that he should have been a minus 16,000 favorite over
and Yusufzal finished Josh Emmett faster than Goteer finished him.
Like, and no bonus.
That's insane.
It's just absolutely insane.
It's a tough one.
Daniel Santos knocks out,
Yu Jusang, excuse me,
Little Zombie.
Jacob Wicklacks defeats Patche McSpeas with decision.
I'm sure we're going to get a bunch of questions about that.
So we'll save that.
Edmund Shabazian finishes.
Marie Muniz at the buzzer of round one.
Punisoriano remains undefeated at Welterweight.
Not the most thrilling performance.
Kind of a bummer performance, if we're being honest.
I thought he's going to get him out of there in the first.
He did.
Yeah, sort of, I mean, the air was already gone because of the fights before it, but sort of, I was looking forward to that one.
I was anticipating that one, and then it cracked me down a little bit.
uh yanna santos crushed the dreams of not just macy chasun but joseph boza as well um i mean no more
you're still going to get that question no i i will never put that question on any of our shows
it's never going to happen she's now lost two fights in a row we are done with this macy jason
should be fighting for the ban on white championship conversation somebody wanted a murder tonight
Anthony, Yeree, Khalil
was an early stoppage, sir.
Sir, I assume
that that's a J.K. That's a J.K.
It's got to be because
Khalil literally didn't stand up for like,
he didn't even go to the fighter announcement
because he couldn't stay on his feet.
They finally got him vertical
and immediately sat him on a stool.
The overhead shot of him,
like just dead was crazy.
Yeah.
Because when Yeri kills you, he kills you.
He kills you. He sure does.
He kills you dead.
Free Bacherat.
gets the win over Chris Gutierrez.
We got a win for Remis Braemage.
He taps, I mean, he cut open off of Van derives real bad.
Nice head kick.
Head kick, put it all in motion.
Vaniford showed the remnants of that destruction to his head is a nasty cut.
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We are Caseyless now.
So we're down one less person, which means the workload just increases on everybody else.
So want to go in and help out everybody else.
So let's get some super chats.
Critical Cameron.
You got everything right, Jed.
But it's at 205 pounds.
John's going to go back to whatever now.
Best call out to a guy going through a tragedy ever.
That's the thing.
My take is a little less good because Alex kind of proffered it,
but you can go check submission radio.
I was legitimately on this week's ago.
But I think Alex sees it too,
because apparently Alex was going to call out John
and then John's brother passed.
Incredibly good pivot to not be like,
I'm going to pivot to something else.
Like, oh, that was really good.
Shout out to him.
Like, I was going to call him out.
But then his brother died and that'd be a real dick move.
because it would have been.
And so he didn't
because Alex Pereira
is also pretty freaking cool.
Yes.
Jamba.
M. Maine tribal gods,
as Yuri would say,
blessed us boys.
Got to ask higher,
power for pound all time.
Alex or Marab.
Maraub is insane,
but Alex is a three-time champ,
two-division champ,
and Alex with a six to four
lead in championship wins.
It's a really good question.
Would you rank Pereira higher
than the Rob right now?
That's actually a really good question,
Spencer.
Spencer, you should ask me
question again in the mailbag this week because I'd like to spend a little more time than just
giving my off-the-cuff take. I think my answer is Marab as higher than Alex. And I certainly believe
by the end of their careers, because I believe at the end of his career, Marab will be the goat.
I know people are already going to give it to him. It's a fight. I think I'm there. It's just a fight.
I'm not going to battle because I don't have enough anymore, but he's not it.
But people are going to say it.
And at the end of the day, it'll be true.
Because I think he's going to defend his belt a couple more times.
And one more, if he gets one more, I have no issue with you calling him in the band of
Waco.
It gets two more.
The debate is over.
It's not a contest.
And so because of that, because what Alex is accomplished and particularly the way he's
accomplished it and in such a short period of time, it is, you know, it's important.
I can't separate the fact that 205 is bad.
And so as good as his wins are relatively,
and that is most important,
Marav's wins relatively are better.
He's more historically significant in one division.
I don't put nearly the same weight
to multiple division championships as other people do,
though it does matter for something.
But it's a really good question.
Like, if you want to say Alex is a greater fighter
than Marab all time,
I don't think that's wrong.
I think if they both just never fought again,
I'd come down on the side of Marab.
But it's really close, man.
Like, it's really close.
And by the end of it, I don't think it will be.
I think Maraub will clearly separate himself.
But also, I don't know if Alex knocks out John Jones
and then beats Tom Aspinall, like he's, I don't know what we're doing.
Alex Pereira is a very weird fighter because he defies conventional organizational patterns.
because of the way his career,
his career,
he moves so quickly
through middleweight.
He is a,
he's a middleweight champion.
His middleweight resume is poop,
is two good wins,
you know,
but that's not his fault.
It's,
so he defies convention,
which makes it tough.
It's a really good question,
Spencer,
I liked it a lot.
Yeah.
I mean,
especially for you,
when it comes to just
the importance of title defenses,
and it is important.
There's another thing he has,
many of them.
That's great.
He's many championship wins.
He's more.
He does.
He does.
And so, like, that's right.
It's a really good question.
One I never would have thought of, frankly, but it's a really good one.
Sledo points out you see a huge smile on Hunter's face as Alex Wins.
Look, there's no, there's no secret.
The UFC will never publicly say this, but they were rooting for Alex Berwick.
Oh, there is not a question.
Just like they're rooting for him at UFC 313.
Spencer, again, once again, Uri proves being a psycho is more important than being better technically.
And damn, Corey looked good until he got hurt.
Sorry to hear about Casey.
y'all still my favorite
anime go-toes.
Hey, we're not sorry.
We love Casey.
Yeah, Casey's the man.
You know, yes, being crazy is an underrated skill set in MMA.
It, you know, it has limitations.
It's not enough on its own.
But having the big crazy button to press when the chips are down.
Corey Sanhagan needed the big crazy button to press.
It still might not have worked.
I'm not saying it would have worked.
But on all three judges' scorecards,
Kaleel was up two rounds and none.
Yuri had to press the big crazy button.
He did.
And he may well be fighting for a boat in his next fight.
Very well.
Very much could happen.
Crazy how everyone gave up on Alex and he proved everyone wrong again.
I don't think anybody like gave up on Alex.
I don't believe.
I mean, people did.
But it wasn't even like a give up.
It was just like we weren't interested in the first fight.
We became less interested in the second fight.
And then we sort of convinced our.
ourselves to find ways, interesting ways to look at the fight.
It wasn't Alex per se.
It was just like, it was more like the sort of Ankylai side of things where it's just
like, I don't know if like the hunger is there just for Alex to fight him.
Because the UFC was in no rush to do it.
Didn't seem like Alex really cared all that much about it.
And to me, like even after losing the first fight, like I had, honestly, like, when UFC
313 was over, I was like, all right.
like just leave light heavyweight and go to heavyweight like it's okay that you don't need to run
this one back and you know he went out there and didn't friggin smushed him but yeah i don't think
it was like i don't think anyone because even if he lost this fight it would have been like cool now
he's done with ankle live he goes to heavyweight and they can try still try to win a third belt
it's fine i will say uh most smart people weren't um i coined this phrase that i'm really proud of
yesterday on MK, but Luke Thomas is the one who kind of put it out there and first made me like
recognize that this is true. Because I do think it's true. There was certainly a big chunk of people
and just the fandom in general who got off the Poetan bandwagon. And I'm not even sure they got off
it in a way that they discounted him like the question suggests or whatever. But in the just,
oh, he lost and forgot about him. When he was no longer Shama champion, it was just like,
okay, whatever. Fairweather fan e.
Again, not that they were like, he sucks or whatever, but just like, we're out.
And I honest to God, I genuinely believe this to be true after Luke kind of pitched it.
And then it says, like, it's just because Ancolaev is, he's the Bermuda triangle of fighters.
You lose to him and everyone forgets you exist.
Like all the people that Anclyev has beaten is just been like, okay, well, that guy, that guy doesn't matter anymore.
He lost too undeniably a great fighter in a megamanicola.
I have, but the way the UFC has treated him,
it's, he puts you in purgatory.
It's the, he's the Bermuda Triangle.
And Alex just got out of the Bermuda triangle.
He broke free by punching it.
Sometimes the way to break the Prameter triangle is to punch you right in the face
with the right hook.
And that's what he did.
I'll take a few more.
I'm surprised we can get a more patchy mix questions here.
Uh, Joseph,
Zoll is now one eight in a row at Featherweight.
He wants the Roan Murphy next.
Is that a good call out?
I think it's a shitty call out.
like I get like I don't think it's a great call out I think it's I don't know I think it's a bad
shitty call out but I think it's pretty bad one I think it's pretty bad I understand what
he's trying to do he's just not good at this what you do is you shoot higher and you may get
lower okay you shoot from mobsar that's the name you call you call him out you might just
get that's a better call out yeah that that was one billion percent to call out
because they are in no rush to give Movesar of life anything.
They were going to throw Movesar of a boy of in there with Aaron Pico,
and he would have killed Aaron Pico.
And I said that from pretty much day one.
But that's the call.
You call out the dude that nobody wants to fight.
I do think that's a good call out.
Yeah.
So I don't like this call out.
I don't think he gets the Rome Murphy fight.
I do think if he called out Movesar,
he might have had a better chance of getting it.
But I said immediately afterwards that I don't hate it.
And I, to some extent, I think I stand on that.
but I'm less confident since the U.S. you didn't even bonus his ass.
They don't give a F about this, too, apparently.
I think he could get the fight.
I still believe Laron is the most likely got to fight Alex,
but a lot of rumblings about other things afoot there.
But I think the most sort would have been a better call out for sure.
And I think the most likely outcome is he gets an Arnold Allen,
a, you know, John Silva, something like that instead.
I think it's going to be John Silva.
I already said it during the watch party.
That is going to be my pick.
Great win.
Like what he did was very impressive.
No doubt about it.
But we have to really break down this, this win streak he's on.
Like there's one good one in and it's still an old dude.
Yeah, Calvin Cater.
Solid win, but also.
That was his fourth loss in a row.
It was the fourth of Cater's five current losing streak.
Yeah.
And that was not a fight that anyone's going to go back and rewatch.
No, it sure is not.
What did?
No, credit to him.
He did apparently after blowing the doors off Emmett, go talk to Dana Cage,
and I'm sorry.
I'm sorry the cater fight sucked.
My bad.
That's good.
So, I ingratiate yourself.
That's good.
Like, he did what you needed to do.
He's just not over, man.
Apparently, like, and from what I saw as well, like, the crowd wasn't, like, cheering for him.
It was like kind of quiet and one of those types of things.
So I'm trying to look at this.
Let's just talk about Patchy Bix.
Okay.
Where does he go now?
Let me ask you this because this is something that I've seen a lot of.
True or false, that was Patchy Mix's last fight in the UFC.
It would depend on what the odds you're giving me are.
If it's just 50-50, I'll say false, but I ain't got no level of confidence in that, Mike.
patchy i assume is costly
he i don't think he's that costly
you would know better than i'm my assumption
i don't know for sure i have no insight to this but just knowing how the ufc does business
i don't think he's making cheap um he's not delivering any
any value on it like he he he looked bad in both fights i haven't seen this fight so i can't
say that definitively but based on what you've said everything i've seen he did not look good
if he was losing but it was fun
okay but he's not even doing that
um you know
I feel like we talked about it in the buildup to this
they told us what they think of patchy by giving him this fight
against a guy who is tricky and fun
but nobody knows him and is making his UC debut
in Yakop Wicklets and he loses this fight
you know I know that some people scored the fight for him
some fighters thought patchy got robbed as a result of that
I'm gonna guess
fights one more time.
But if they were just like, hey, it's not working.
You're giving off real strong Will Brooks energy.
We're out.
I would not.
It would not be the most surprising headline to read in a couple of weeks.
So I'm going to say yes.
He'll fight one more time.
I would not.
I wouldn't bet like a lot of money on that, though.
Like I said during the watch party,
and I'm just going to give away my wildcar picking on to the next one.
He's going to fight Malcolm Wellmaker.
That is the fight.
That's what they're going to do.
They're going to.
I hope they booked that this year.
He might, they might, Patchy might fight out his deal.
He,
they will not resign him.
Oh,
I think that it will not resign him.
That's a certainty.
I don't know what his deal is,
but there ain't no chance.
It's probably,
I'm sure it's a four-fight deal.
He will fight those out,
but his next two fights will be in a position
to milk whatever is left in that name
and put in an attempt to put over
contender series talent.
Like Malcolm Wellmaker,
if there's,
you would know better than I,
because you've watched everyone,
if there's like an exciting Banim weight
that's come off this season,
that they really like,
that you're really high on,
that could be in like an A level tier type of guy.
There's some good ones.
I ain't nobody like,
Wellmaker.
Yeah.
Wellmaker's the top,
top one going right now.
This is what's,
I mean,
this is literally what they're going to do.
It's,
and I'm like,
you say vindication,
like,
I feel vindicated with all my patchy mix takes.
You nailed it.
I missed this one wide.
This was probably my biggest miss of the night.
Because Wiglets has never been a good,
like I've watched a bunch of his KSW stuff,
and I watched it specifically ahead of this fight.
I went back and watched a bunch of them.
I was like, that dude can grapple,
but I know Patchy can grapple,
for real, for real.
Apparently, he lost a lot of the grappling exchanges as well.
I was like, Patsy is a better striker.
And apparently that's not even true based on my.
What happened?
Yeah.
And that's the ring,
Weiklitz is not a man who's ever shown me a ton of defensive responsibility on the feet.
And so I was like,
I think Patchy can win this on the feet and the grappling could be really fun,
but Patchy's probably okay.
And apparently that's not what happened at all.
So I don't know what happened in Patchy.
I don't believe that he,
you know,
found the level of the UFC because he's obviously great as beaten fighters who had success
and would be good in the UFC, etc., etc.
Something happened.
he ain't the same dude no more
arguably it happened before he came to the
of the UFC with Megamad Megamadov
but I lost that fight too
I just stone cold
like I was like I think Patschy
I think this is a get right fight for Patchy
and it was apparently super not
so miss this one entirely
not good man
and I get like honestly
like but the biggest takeaway I have from this fight
is
was it almost better
that Patsy lost
because of like having DC and having other fighters say like all he got robbed so it almost like changes the narrative of the story it's almost like what happened to paul huge yesterday like pa i thought paul lost to uswin or magamatov yesterday
thought he lost the fight 5045 is insane 4946 is a terrible card but the fact that that happened caused a little bit of tomfoolery into the fact of the fight and the judges and where it took place and all that stuff like it makes paul hughes seem like a sympathetic figure
here to the point where like, well, maybe he'll just get a third fight despite losing twice
to Oswin Amaga Madoff.
If Patchy wins, like the whole thing is like, yeah, patchy won, but he looked like shit.
Like, it's, it's tough, man.
Like, he isn't such a tough spot.
And I think your Will Brooks comparison is perfect.
It just is what it is.
He just is Will Brooks.
And I, that's the thing that I don't understand.
I never understood about Will Brooks.
I know for a fact, Will Brooks was a good fighter.
I watch him fight good fighters.
and succeed strongly against them.
What works beat Michael Chandler's ass twice.
I know he's a good fighter.
And he came to the UFC and he collapsed.
And the same thing appears to have happened with Patchy.
And I don't get it.
And there are any number of reasons why.
But yeah, I think that was my biggest miss of the night for sure.
I wasn't like, you know, I had some incorrect predictions or stuff.
That was the one where I was just like totally off base, really thought this was a get right.
Ain't no given right.
I think, and I will say, and I stand by this,
my take beforehand was that Patchy had the most to lose on this card.
Feel okay about that.
I don't feel that that take was wrong right now.
Yeah, I think he's probably maybe number two.
I mean, Sanagan is never fighting for the belt again.
So that's a lot for a guy that talented.
But yeah, Patchy is, he's in complete no-man's land now.
Chas Berkey, Jakob, Wicklitz is not a,
no name prospect. He was the KSW Bantamweight champion for like three years. Yeah. Um,
if you know, you know, KSW has produced several UFC champions. I love the signing.
He's very, he deserves to be good. Still, I do fundamentally. Didn't see that coming, but he ain't
a no name. Let's put a low respect on Yakub's name. Uh, we will end here. Critical Cameron. Thank you.
Telling Corey to not go 100% in between round two or three might be the dumbest coaching advice ever.
tough look for my guy. I didn't even know that.
We, so we don't get to hear the cornering because of the setup.
Heard a lot of what Trevor Whitman was saying was relayed to us and I agreed with.
I think that's correct to say that between rounds two and three because he was recovering from getting jawed and you shouldn't burn out your gas tank to try and get it back or whatever.
They need to light more of a fire under his ass after the third round because that's,
That's when he needed the big crazy button, and he never got there.
A lot of people feel that it is an absolute certainty that Corey San Agile
will fight Sean O'Malley next.
I don't think that's a certainty.
I think Sean is going to fight somebody else first.
Probably not a certainty, yeah.
And I think Corey's probably got to take a little bit of time after this fight.
I mean, I don't know where Corey goes for me.
That's a really good question.
It's tough, man.
I mean, I know he'll just go back to work and he'll say that,
yeah, I lost, but
one of my best effort.
Back to the drawing board.
Go, you know, keep working.
And that's the right mentality,
but I mean, just, just staying,
you know.
Just being like, just like him fighting.
I mean, it seems like he likes to fight.
The truth is, and I think a lot of people,
and I think Corey will have this mentality.
And I think we as fans,
and particularly me,
I underestimate this sometimes as well with fighters,
not just that they want to,
but like,
sometimes,
you don't see the path.
But the only way forward is through.
You just got to do it.
You just got to chop some wood.
And you,
you chop wood.
And if you chop enough wood,
maybe something opens up.
And so it's like,
yeah,
I don't see the path for Corey back to the title.
And I would bet a good amount of money right now
that Corey San Hagan never fights for a belt again.
And maybe Corey even thinks that.
He's a very cerebral guy.
He's very self-aware.
Appreciate.
Yeah,
but you can.
But, you know, if I'm in his corner, I'm his team, we go back and I say, hey, we lost that fight.
That sucks.
Let's, let's sit with that for a little bit.
Let's feel the emotion.
And let's go get a win.
And then we get another win.
And you don't, you know, get the touchdown 100 yards in one go.
Maybe you do.
But mostly you get it a yard at a time.
And so, Corey says, I'll go back and I'll fight.
I'll try and get new more rematch or whatever it is.
And he stacks up a couple of wins and tries to get back there.
My guess is that's our Corey will approach it as a, well, back to the drawing board.
Just keep, keep doing what I can and maybe something will open up.
Maybe an opportunity will arrive.
But it is, it's hard to see him getting one again at this point.
Yeah.
Will, pretty interesting comparison.
He's Joseph Benavitas.
Corey Sanagan?
Yeah.
Not as good as Joseph Benavitas for being honest.
But yeah, I mean, he's in, he's in that realm.
I think your eye of favor is probably more Joseph Benavitas-ish.
Probably his favorite won a belt before that and defended it quite some time.
Well, yeah, I meant I meant like UFC-ish.
He's just in that realm of, you know, we called it Franklin's own for a long time
because it was Rich Franklin post-Anderson Silva of being really good but not the best.
You know, they're just, they're guys throughout the history of the sport who have been top five, but not top one.
And that's always disappointing in athletics because you get into sports to be the best.
Nobody gets in to be the third best anything in the world.
And in sports in particular, because it's so public when you are number one,
you know, there is no podium.
This isn't the Olympics where you can get a bronze medal.
And so it does feel like a letdown or disappointment,
because you don't have anything to reflect on.
of like, oh, maybe I didn't get there, but I still have something.
I have a thing to remember.
Corey Sanagan doesn't, and he probably never will.
And that's tough, but it is the sort of reality of fight sport.
When the 18th, it was a school in a school, but you can go back and be like, you know what?
We want something.
We want a thing that was cool.
Hearing Daniel Cormier talk about desperately wanting the bronze medal was like a really,
illuminating experience for me.
He talked about it recently.
I was like, man, I didn't want it at the time.
I thought it was shitty.
But then when they were going back and giving post hoc
sussies to people for drug tests,
I was like, please test these dudes.
Let me see it.
Like I would run to go get a bronze medal 30 years
after I lost the Olympics or whatever.
I was like, and it honestly just like, oh yeah, that's it.
Because if you don't have that,
then you don't have anything.
You have nothing other than,
of photos and memories to be like
I was one of the best guys that ever did it
at the time
and that's where unfortunately that's
going to be Corey San Diego has fight posters
of memorabilia
he'll have the memories and the
knowledge that he was one of the
six best guys in the weight class
one of the six best dudes in the world
at his job
I ain't one of the six best dudes in the world
in my job frankly
he gets to have that but he doesn't have the trophy
and uh that's
sucks, but it is the nature of the game.
I think you're one of the six best.
Thanks, buddy.
Absolutely.
Thanks, buddy.
And that's it.
You hear the music, and that means we are out of here.
And appreciate you joining us all night long as we've been talking for the last six
consecutive hours or so.
And more talking to be done.
Oh, no, you got to put the zero in.
No, it's not zero.
25.
You get the main event.
25 in the main.
Yeah.
I'm sorry.
Actually, don't you?
I think I give you for also a title fight animate event.
You get 50 points.
You get the 50 burger.
Sweet.
I got a zero.
I got two.
And let's bump up Gotea, although you should have got a bonus.
That's a 350 for Gautier.
You're,
I got Jasmine.
I got Gillian.
You're closing in behind me.
So there you go.
So,
yeah,
we should see how that all goes.
A.K.
and I back tomorrow.
I'm not really sure what time.
Think maybe around 11 a.m.
Maybe.
noonish. We will let you know
everybody. Live edition.
A.K. in taking Torres
Finney as his wild part.
Alex Prairam, available and he chose
not to. He took Torres Fiddy.
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