MMA Fighting - UFC 327 Post Show | Reaction To Carlos Ulberg's Insane Knockout To Win Title, Josh Hokit's Wild Night
Episode Date: April 12, 2026Carlos Ulberg is the the new UFC light heavyweight champion, and did so after severely injuring his knee and knocking out Jiri Prochazka with one working leg. As impressive as that feat is, it may not... be the big story of UFC 327 in the aftermath. Following a wild event in Miami, MMA Fighting's Mike Heck and Jed Meshew react to Ulberg's shocking knockout of Prochazka to win the title, who he could face next, and where the division could go if Ulberg is severely injured. Additionally, topics include the Josh Hokit vs. Curtis Blaydes Fight of the Year contender and Hokit being booked on the UFC White House card against Derrick Lewis, Paulo Costa's upset win over Azamat Murzakanov, the heartwarming swan song for Cub Swanson, and much more. Follow Mike Heck: @m_heckjr Follow Jed Meshew: @JedKMeshew Subscribe: http://goo.gl/dYpsgH Check out our full video catalog: http://goo.gl/u8VvLi Visit our playlists: http://goo.gl/eFhsvM Like MMAF on Facebook: http://goo.gl/uhdg7Z Follow on Twitter: http://goo.gl/nOATUI Read More: http://www.mmafighting.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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All right. Let us unmute.
I got to tell you, the victory horns were really loud in the earphones.
I had to go back into the back end of the laptop and prepare myself by turning down the output a little bit.
Blew my ear drums out a little bit.
But welcome to the UFC 327 post-fight show here on MMAfighting.com.
I am Mike Heck.
That is once again, Jed Buschew, live in command center 5.0.
We have a brand new UFC light heavyweight champion.
And for the majority of the Yuri Parashka, Carlos Oldberg championship fight, we thought Yuri
Pajaska was just moments away from becoming a two-time UFC light heavyweight champion.
Carlos Olberg hurts his knee.
Yuri Pajasca is just levying him with some of the hardest leg kicks you have ever seen in
your life, probably just two leg kicks away from winning the belt.
and then out of nowhere, as Jedmishu says,
into a live microphone on the watch party,
there's just no way Carlos Olberg can win this fight
with his leg compromise like this.
Half a second later,
Carlos Olberg lands a left hook from hell,
Uri Pajshka collapses onto the canvas,
and Carlis Ulberg, Jedmishu,
is the UFC light heavyweight champion of the world.
This just happened a few minutes ago.
you're no longer wearing your Miami attire.
We have changed clothes.
Funeral gear.
How are we feeling right now?
It was very sad.
Very sad, Michael.
I had a really fun time tonight.
The event was quite good.
There were some down spots,
but the main card was 80% awesome.
There was a 20% that's quite bad,
which we may get to.
And the main event was sad,
but it was very impressive.
and everyone knows that I'm about as big a year
for Haska fan as there is in the world.
And I thought
he was walking to a win
that he would not have liked that many people
would have been unsatisfied with.
It would have been, okay, well,
yeah, he won
not quite as bad as
the van one, right? Because the van one
was so immediate and so fast.
But every would have been like,
yeah, he won, but Albert blew his knee out.
Let's let him run it back when O'Ber gets there.
and then Erie made that not an issue at least by just walking headlong into a big left hook
and I mean Joe Rogan started it he interviewed the year after and was like
Yeri did you feel some sympathy some mercy and a concussed Jerry Prasca talked about how he
took his foot off the gas and wasn't trying to attack him I don't think I agree I'll go back
and watch because when we're doing the watch parties a lot's happening so maybe maybe a
I saw plenty of people on Twitter also be like,
looks like Yuri took his foot off the gas before the finish happened.
So maybe that was a thing, and I'm not giving it as much credit.
But my major takeaway from this is to credit Carlos Olberg.
Because yes, if you want to say Yeri threw that away,
I think there's absolutely an argument for that.
But at the end of the day, Carlos Alberg found a way to get his hand raised
despite really dire circumstances.
because honestly, if that fight just goes to the corner,
his corner might stop it and be like, hey, man, you can't walk out there.
It's unfortunate, but, you know, if we stop it between rounds because you blew out your ACL,
you can save face from maybe getting hurt, you know, if you keep fighting.
And instead, he made none of that an issue.
And so my big takeaway will be to credit Carlos Olberg,
while acknowledging there are criticisms to be levied elsewhere.
But, like, that Alberg stepped up when it mattered in a very,
real way, so good on him.
Yeah.
I mean, I think
my initial takeaway,
and I'll probably have to do the same thing
and go back and rewatch it.
And obviously, I see the criticism.
And I really didn't like the way
Rogan frame that question about letting you fire down.
Never interview the losers, man.
Just never do it.
Yeah, you just gave him sort of a built-in excuse
and it makes them look even worse, in my opinion.
And I don't think that's what Joe is like intentionally trying to do.
Maybe with producers in his ear saying like,
almost certain.
question.
My thing wasn't like he have felt mercy.
My thing was Yuri just played around too much.
Like he was yelling.
He was doing the point down thing.
Like he literally just needed to kick him in the legs like two more times and win.
But instead he's like, get over here and let's fight.
Like it just became, he just messed around too much.
I think the argument is that messing around was mercy because he recognized that old
Burke had an injured knee.
And so, because I saw some of this and he was pointing down to be like, okay, if you can't
move, just stands still.
just stop moving away, stand still, and you and I can punch.
I don't know if that's true or not.
I never interview the loser is my, unless it's like the retirement fight, okay.
I don't know if Yuri will even stand by what he said in there.
He's just got his brain clattered around.
So they really framed it in a way that was very beneficial to Yuri Parashka.
And I just don't think you needed to.
And again, as big a Yuri fan as there is,
in the world. I think
you can let the criticisms of him
being, you know, making poor choices
exist. But you could also
just be like, man, especially
the broadcast could just celebrate Carlos
Olberg for overcoming
adversity. Ironically, I
said as he walked out, look at that handsome man.
Has he ever overcome any adversity
in his life? He's never even been rejected
at the bar. And that man
overcame some very real adversity to
hoist the belt. So good on him.
The rifle champion.
clear win got it done you're a game at opening and he took it he just obliterated him it's not like
you know carl's collapsed to the ground and yuri just became the champion like that's definitely
different than the van situation um which i also believe the van win is a legitimate win too it's
unfortunate it is it's legit it just is legitimate win but all berg on one leg and just just the
timing of it as you said like there's this is no way to
Carl's can win this fight like this and then he just sleeps them.
It was second.
It was genuinely when you cut the clip it there's going to be like maybe three second gap between me and me like well
olberg can't throw punches so he can't win anymore and then boom it's it's so fast I rogan
so hard.
Yeah.
Unbelievable stuff.
Congratulations to Carlos Oldberg.
He is the champion of the world and.
for now.
I don't know that he's staying champion.
Saw some reports from some of the doctors online.
It appears, and you know, they don't know
because they don't get to take an x-ray or an MRI,
but based on the way Oldberg's knee snapped,
it seems like he probably at least tore his ACL.
That's nine months on the shelf.
You know, for better or worse,
Yeri Perashka is the man who started the,
if I'm going to be out for a long,
time belt goes up, they may, they may lean on a Carlos and be like, hey, man, you can fight
the winner, but we're going to put the belt on Paulo Costa versus Yerabrajka or whatever it is.
So maybe, maybe, maybe he keeps it, but I don't, he's not fighting again this year.
I will be plumb surprised if he fights again this year.
Yeah, but like, they shouldn't let, I want to be super.
clear.
Year per Hasco should not fight for the belt next.
I'm just saying that is a thing that the UFC might do.
I would firmly disagree with that.
Again, biggest year fan of the world.
He should not be the guy.
But if Oberst is going to be out for a year,
they might take it off him.
I see some people saying they're doing interim belt
who Costa versus Ankylaif.
Maybe they do that instead, but they're not going to do that.
They're done with Ankylaif, man.
They do not want to be in the Ankylaif and the championship.
you picked your business.
Early out dropped.
Angolaev is a minus 200 some odd favorite over Carlos Oldberg.
Saw that.
So,
yeah,
I think Angolive's going to have to fight again.
Look,
if Pereira...
They're going to go Costa before Ankaa life without question.
If Pereira loses to Cyril Ghan,
they are going to strip Ulberg and have Pereira fight Hamzaat for the vacant
belt.
That will happen.
Maybe.
just will happen.
Oh.
So.
Yeah,
maybe they just do,
they could just do Hamza.
Only if Pereer loses.
Prayer wins.
They could just do Hamzaa versus Costa for the interim.
Or maybe,
again,
if Hamzaat's coming up,
I think they're just going to put a belt on an interim belt.
Because they've shown,
they've put a prayer in an interim title fight.
Yeah,
but that's because they can't really strip Tom
because they let John have the belt forever.
But like they have,
I mean, the standard at light heavyweight is now.
If you're out for nine months, the belt is off of your ass.
So I, it's not fair.
I genuinely just think they're going to take the belt off.
I hope they don't, because as long as he's back within a year,
I think it'd be fine, but he's,
he's going to be out for about a year at least.
I would assume maybe we're all wrong.
Maybe his knee is fine.
But I just, I am seeing the vision.
Hamzaa Chimaev, maybe it's,
It's Paulo Costa for the vacant light heavyweight title.
And Carlos Solberg can fight the winner.
And I will, I will bet anyone, anything you want.
If Alex Pereira loses, they are a billion percent doing Alex Pereira homes up.
Shemaya for the vacant light heavyweight out.
Prayer wins, maybe not.
Prayer loses a happening, boys.
Unbelievable stuff.
Overall, like, this was a great, like, I had a great time.
It's a really good time.
This is really good.
Like, I was literally one thing that was not fun.
tonight. That was it.
And I didn't see all the undercards and some of that.
You'll have to speak a little more on.
I missed a lot of it, quite frankly,
though some of the results seemed pretty interesting.
But from what I watched tonight,
I was also covering boxing earlier.
So I missed a lot of fights.
From all the MMA I watched tonight,
only one thing was bad.
Everything else was various levels of good.
And some of it was very, very good.
Yes.
And we'll get to the very, very good at a minute.
But we'll see what happens with Carlos Oldberg.
Wait to see what's,
of injury it actually is. We probably won't know for several days at this point.
So unless, you know, maybe Dana, maybe it's something they can figure out right away.
I don't know when he goes to the hospital.
I don't know if we'll see Carl Solberg at the post-by press conference.
Perhaps who will.
I bet he goes because his injury is not one that needs immediate medical attention and he would
want to get to speak to media as a champ.
So I'm going to guess Alberg goes to the presser.
So congratulations to him.
What do we do with Yeriparajka now?
He's in a weird spot.
He's gotten four title fights.
He did cash in the first one
against Glover-Teshirea,
but he has been not...
He's been brutally knocked out.
Maybe the greatest fight of all time,
just so we're clear.
Yes.
He's been brutally knocked out in three straight title fights.
Pretty tough.
It's not great.
Not a great job.
It's not great, Bob.
I know he's very popular.
The way he lost this fight,
not great.
I mean, this is about the worst case of error for him.
It's about as bad as you could lose a fight.
I'm not sure anyone's ever lost a fight.
worse than Yerry to
tonight. Because how many
fighters have lost fights that they could not
like, if Yuri simply just
didn't do anything for the remainder
of that fight, I think there's a better
than 50% chance he wins
because I think if it just
goes to the corner, Carlos
Sahlberg's corner might be like, dude, you can't fight him
with one knee. We're stopping it.
City kickboxing are smart about
that. They're not, you know, like, they don't
play around like, hey man,
it's unfortunate but okay. Maybe they still
send him out there. Maybe it still happens, but like,
it's about as bad a loss as you can
imagine having in the sport realistically.
Really bad. Do you think he goes,
do you think he's done at 205? Do you think he tries
185 now after this? No, I don't want him to.
I think 205 is correct the division.
It's not like we haven't seen him show the ability
to be a little more measured. Like, you fall a clue
around tree and didn't walk into a left hook like he did
tonight like he just
and again he literally took a round and a half off in that fight and again i just i don't
i'm sure i believe that there probably is some credence to the idea that once alberg got hurt
yurie's brain short circuit a little bit and how to approach the fight but i'm not willing to
use that as an excuse call us olberg won the fight we've seen yerry be better than he was tonight
this was not his best effort and he got punitive
very violently for it.
But, like, I don't,
changing weight classes is not the solve here.
I mean, we could just get him and DDP and that rock.
I mean,
two-year children fighting.
Look, I've always one of them.
RDR is moving up to 205 if they booked that.
I'm a okay with year you fighting RDR.
That would be great.
Robert Whitaker's moving up to 205.
Everyone's moving up to 205.
Robert Whitaker would be pretty fun one, frankly.
That might make a lot of sense.
is like a legend
versus legend fight
champ versus champ
that would be fine
because the other thing is
Yeri hasn't fought
like everybody at 205
anyway so like
do it
and if they're not going to give
Angoli have a title fight
screw it like Yeree
fight Angolive
see what happens
he'll probably get knocked out
but like see see so
I don't want him to go down
I would like him to take some time off
as pretty nasty knockout
go enjoy being a father
I think he's going to be a father.
Sounds like Tuesday, though sometimes those things come earlier.
But maybe fatherhood, we've heard the stories of fatherhood changing people all the time.
Maybe he has a, not a Joe Pfeiffer-esque change of heart about the Bushido spirit,
but maybe his daughter, Sarko, whatever we decided she was going to be called as born.
And he's like, I must still have the Bushido spirit, but now I must learn defense.
isn't that like
that's some mighty ducks
I was like isn't one of the
Kung Fu Panda movies
like he has to learn the art of defense
but that's actually the third
Mighty Ducks movie
they have to learn how to play defense
take out of the trash
yeah but like maybe that's it
he has a daughter and he's like
I want to be around
for my daughter forever
I need to stop getting hit
in the face so much
I will go into the mountains
and I've spent all my time
in the mountains training against trees
and as Bruce Lee once famously
paraphrased, trees don't hit back.
So he's got to go
find a tree who will hit back
and learn defense. And then he
comes back stronger and better than ever.
Yeah. Maybe he's thinking
Mighty Ducks 1, concentration not strength,
soft hands.
Soft hands.
Everything is about soft hands.
Soft hands will carry you through life.
You don't stop the pass.
You cradle.
Accept it. That's how you do it.
I swear, I haven't watched
like the Kung Fu Pandas like committed.
I've like seen pieces of them.
with my little cousins or whatever.
I saw the first one, but like the other ones,
I swear one of them is like,
Po has to learn defense.
And that's Yuri.
Yeri is Po.
Yes.
He must learn defense.
Although he was very defensively sound in the Khalil fight.
That's why I was like,
oh, he's going to do well against Carlos.
And frankly,
he was defensively sound in this fight
until the very end when he came
and he had his right hand here
and his left hand out here,
which is a whole change.
to put the one punch Carlos Olberg can throw at this point.
And he ate it.
He's the same.
I love me.
He brought Mighty Ducks 3 and everyone's like me.
You already need to learn two-way MMA.
Two-way hockey.
Look, yeah, play two-way hockey.
Defense wins championships, baby.
I think of that.
That movie is not good.
It is easily the worst of the Mighty Ducks films by a wide margin.
It's bad.
It's quite bad.
And the whole premise is stupid.
Even though the premise of the first Mighty Ducks is also quite dumb.
And like, somebody did like a YouTube video.
It was like Gordon Bombay scored 190 goals in youth hockey.
He's averaging a goal every two minutes.
That's two goals.
Two goals of shifts.
It doesn't matter if you miss his one playoff thing.
He would still be Gretzky.
So like all the Mighty Ducks movies are silly.
But for whatever reason, the like that the defense thing is always stuck with me.
And it's just like, that's what year he needs.
A grizzled veteran coach.
to teach him how to play defense with like the silliest stupidest drills of all time he scored
197 goals in 10 games yeah i was like okay he scored 20 goals a game you you missed one
playoff goal when you were eight and that ruined your holy shot you didn't even lose the game
just hit the post it's very it's very it's very silly film very three is the worst but i will
always remember him dumping trash and i'm just hitting trash like this isn't good coaching but that's what
you're he needs you need somebody to dump trash
from him and make him block it as it falls.
Oh my gosh.
Well, congratulations to Carl Solberg.
Genuinely, like,
Hugh J. Perashka fan,
but that was very cool from Carlos Solberg,
and you got to respect it.
It was a nasty knockout.
That's probably going to be,
that's going to be high up on the knockout of the year list.
One-legged, literally a leg kick away from losing,
maybe his only chance to win a title.
he's not a young I mean yeah he's not young 36 37 35 maybe I don't know he's up there I mean
I it is middle 8 I think because of the weirdness and because like heavyweight's so bad that if
if he had just gone to the corner I'm like yeah I blew up my ACL they probably would have
they wouldn't have given an immediate shot but they'd have given him one all right be one dude
and we'll let you get another cracker at it but he made that relevant because he will be championed
forever now yeah good on him maybe he fights paolo costa next in uh
A handsome guy.
Yeah, I mean,
the handsomest fight since Costa versus Luke Rockhold.
Man,
Paula Costa,
what a weird fight.
Up and down we go,
Paulo Costa has a real solid first round.
Merza Kanoff decides,
you know what I'm going to do?
I'm going to start ripping the body.
And boy,
did he,
he was making Paul real uncomfortable.
And then one of my,
like,
again,
I'm not a technical mastermind.
Once a while I could see things.
I was like,
you know what Paul Costa do?
you should probably kick him in the face
because that's like wide open for him.
Start around three,
Paul Costa kicked him right in the frigging face
and hurt him bad.
Then he kicked him in the body a couple of times.
They kicked him in the face a couple more times.
And Paul Costa,
not only hands,
Azamat Mirzikanaf, his first loss,
finishes him.
And now is in a terrific spot right now
when it comes to this light heavyweight division,
whether Carl's Oldberg can compete
in the realistic near future or not,
Paul Costa is probably going to be in the conversation for some sort of title next
unless like Alex Pereira and Hamzad is like somewhat available and they can work that out
but Costa could not be in a better place right now moving up to this new division
might even have just snuck himself into a title fight pretty damn good night for Boracchina was it not
very good night I just do not believe he stuck himself into a title fight
I'll believe that happens when it happens,
but I can't imagine beating Osamot, Mersakanav gets you there.
But, I mean, the questions I had in coming into this fight were,
is Paula Kerr?
It just doesn't seem like he's that motivated or invested in fighting.
He mostly is just trying to make memes and joke around on Twitter.
He hasn't really looked that committed.
He looked pretty decent, and it's Koppelov,
but, like, not that long ago he was blowing weight against Warman of a totalist,
and having them change the thing on fight week.
Just where was his focus?
Suddenly now he's moving up to 205
after this sort of kind of long spot.
It felt weird.
And Osamant Mirzikana had been on such a role.
And even in fight week,
Costa didn't feel engaged.
Like he locked in a little bit
as it got a little closer.
But it felt more like he was just
selling the fight going through some motions,
but not really focused.
But,
that matter come fight night he had a very strong opening round i merzicanov storm back in the second the momentum was
all with merzikanov i thought paula costa was getting gassed and gonna just falter down the stretch
and instead he he came out firing the third put head kicks up immediately hurt him and just didn't let off
the gas and ended up finishing i mean this is the best win for paula costa arguably ever and certainly in a very
long time.
Yeah.
We have bonuses, Jed.
Okay.
Can't take a guess.
Fight of the night is very obviously.
There's no chance you get this all right.
Fight of the night is very obviously hokeyed and blitz.
Yes.
A performance bonus should go to Carlos Solberg.
Yes.
And the other performance bonus.
Let me,
let me look through the card in my head because I can't pull up the card now because
I don't think that Dominic Reyes and Nangeloz and Nangelo
then got a bonus.
That doesn't feel like they...
I don't think Dominic Graz and Joddy Walker got a bonus.
I don't think Domitza.
They might have to find him.
We're going to put a pin...
I don't...
I mean, if they gave Costa, that would be bad.
Possible, but I'm not going to guess that.
I'm going to put a pin in Cubby Swanson
because I would like them to give Cubby a bonus.
I don't know that they would have.
What happened earlier in the card?
I didn't see either the Gamma or the Tatiana,
so I can't say that.
Kevin Holland went to the cards.
Who fought after Kevin Opeko went to the cards.
Oh, Pico went to the card.
cards of no
Chuck Buffalo
didn't do anything that should
got a bonus
I'm gonna say it's
Cub Swanson.
Luke A stopped Kevin,
Calvin Gassum in the first round.
He did, but I'm going to say it's
Cub Swanson.
No.
Is it Tatiana Suarez?
No.
Did they really give it to freaking Paula Costa?
No.
Matush camera?
Nope.
Is it Luque?
Nope.
What other fight happened?
They gave us a Josh
choke it.
They gave him a performance and a fight of the night.
So AK just walking to a win.
How do you give him a performance bonus for that?
You gave him fight of the night.
That's so silly.
That's incredible.
AK just celebrating.
Well, congratulations, AK, who's one fantasy.
This is unbelievable.
This is the greatest draft.
They never give bonuses for,
like non-finishes, especially when there are finishes.
Again, a good performance, but you celebrate that with the win.
Like he got the win and he got the fight of the night.
That's insane.
That's wild, man.
Especially for a guy that Dana White clearly doesn't really like that much.
That's wild.
I can't believe that happened.
I truly can't believe it.
You were right when you said you never get.
I was like, no.
I wasn't even remotely thinking about that.
That's sick.
I mean, we literally ran through.
like every possible
scenario
every other finish on the card
and they're like nah screw it
dude send give comey
100k on his way out he put the boots
to nat landwear
seven million dollar gate a 10 17,74741
I do not believe that for a single
solitary second that they sold
17,000 of tickets
no chance this is definitely not a sellout
so I hope he didn't claim that
let's see if there's anything else
he said
uh white says
an hour for Hockett versus Blades.
Trump asked why Derek Lewis wasn't on the White House card.
So White called Lewis asked if we want to be on the card.
Rogan mentioned Hoket should be on the White House card.
Hocke had agreed to face Lewis when he was going into the ambulance.
See, so Rogan said Hokeet should be on the White House card.
I get not no point, Mike.
I said in the first round and then even after the fight was over in Hokeet won,
I said, Josh Hocott versus Derek Lewis, you scoffed at me.
And look at us now, boys.
In this economy, I'm a rich man with that.
No point.
Auto point's hard to come by.
White says it would absolutely suck if an injury kept Hoked off of the White House card,
but he hasn't received any news as of yet that would suggest that.
I don't know what he'd be injured.
I mean, like he's beat up, but.
This is Aaron Bronsetter, by the way.
He's very good at this.
White thinks that there are no easy fights for Gable Steven and the UFC and they do not have an opponent for him yet.
Well, yeah, because he was supposed to like Derek Lewis in the freaking White House.
And they stole it.
And Josh Hokit stole it from him.
No update on Harrison versus Nunes.
And Kosses win, possibly the biggest of his career.
But not good enough to get a bonus from Josh Hoket, though.
Oh, my gosh.
I mean, genuinely wild that they gave Hokka a bonus.
Like, I mean, you can fight the night, obviously.
Oh, for sure.
That's the fight of the year right now.
But giving him a performance bonus or a fight that like,
you could score for Derek
or not for Derek Lewis for Curtis Blades.
I wouldn't say that his performance was gritty.
But like,
yeah,
it just wasn't.
It didn't deserve it.
But good on him and good on AK,
who was very unhappy to draft Josh Ok,
and that has done nothing but they did it for him.
As I said when this fight was announced,
by the way,
the PFL Chicago actually happened tonight.
Oh,
I forgot that.
I was happening.
Yeah,
my prediction that Sergio Pettis would lose.
came to fruition.
Mitch McKee,
you have the double.
With the big upsets,
goes out there and beats him.
So shout out to Mitch McKee,
29, 28 times three.
Rafian Stats lost as well.
That makes sense.
Viviani Arrugia won.
Gabriel Braga won.
All decisions on the main card.
Terrific.
Do we have any finish?
Well, Prism has had a bunch of finishes.
So, yeah, good on,
good on PFL for having an event
that literally not a sole watch.
I mean,
especially not after things got cooking.
Yeah.
So there you have it.
But good one from Paul Costa.
We'll see what happens there.
Josh Hoga Curtis Blades.
Golly, man.
I mean, I just...
The biggest surprise in the card by far.
Yeah.
And we were coming off of one of the worst fights of the year.
The third, I think we agree,
it's the third worst fight.
100% one of the five worst.
I think it's one of the three worst fights.
I do as well.
I think it's the third worst fight of the year.
I don't.
I'd have to go back and watch Pinto.
It's not as bad as MVP Patterson,
but it is in conversation to be worse than anything else I couldn't remember seeing.
Yeah.
But man,
and then we get Hocke and Blades and we're thinking,
all right.
Again,
I thought Josh Hocke could win that fight.
I picked Curris Blades.
I scored a draw.
I never envisioned that fight looking like that.
It was so much fun.
Mike,
if I had told him,
you. I told you
yesterday, we were talking, that
there is a non-zero chance
that come Saturday
Curtis Blades might end up
being UFC Hall of Famer.
You would have looked at me and I'm like, how?
What is going to happen
on Saturday that he is going to be
the Hall of Famer?
Because you never would have gotten to
he's going to have the fight of the year.
But that is the fight of the year right now.
I don't know if it'll hold up.
It might.
A fight was.
bananas and that's just like it was the most fun Curtis plates has ever been and credit to
josh hoak it not remotely how i thought he could compete in that fight and yet he did
unbelievable stuff bad just heart and soul uh even hockett's post fight speech like was not terrible
like it was fine it was fine um this is a great night for him like he moved away from casual
bigotry and just did like the rhyming thing you know if we're critiquing it i would say it's a little
too long. Again, like, if you're trying, you want to be a little pithier, if you're trying to have
like a quotable moment and he, he dragged it on a little bit, but he didn't do like a rehash.
He did his whole spiel and must be tough to remember that after getting punched 200 times
in head and then just walked it off. So good, you know, like I said this in the entire lead up
to the fight. Josh Hockett isn't necessarily to my taste, but I have,
been crediting him more than most for trying, even if I don't always love the way he's trying.
And you can dislike it, but it is working because he got this fight because of it.
And this fight was a big opportunity.
And ultimately, the proof would be in the pudding.
The proof of the pudding is in the eating.
If he goes out here and loses the Curtis blades, then whatever, then it all falls apart.
But if he wins, now he's over.
And he is over.
The amount of people who were sold on this fight,
not because of anything Hokit said before or after,
gave a shit about that,
but we were just like, okay, respect.
The dude's a dog.
He did it.
The most important thing of fighting is always fighting.
Other things are important.
The most important thing is fighting.
And he delivered in a very big way.
And he's one,
went away from fighting for a title now.
Maybe not one,
because I don't think they give him a title shot if he beat Sarah Lewis.
But crazier things have happened.
Yeah.
Yeah, I mean, it kind of just depends on who's the champion.
If it's Cyril gone, they probably will throw them in there pretty quickly.
We do have Tom Aspin also.
Like, there's just kind of a weird line.
So, like, I think Waldo is right there.
And if Waldo beats Volkov, like, he should absolutely get a title shot.
But he won't because of the log jam right now.
So winner of that probably fights the WCA Volkov winner,
or Hokka probably fights the winner of that fight.
if he beat saraq lewis seems like what they would do but what a great night for josh oaken man
i and i there are things he did that would be really impressive man like the heart of obviously
uh he's going to learn some lessons it's also going to take a little bit off of his career because
he got hit a whole frigging bunch but he's never was his first fight against a good fighter
and the good fighter for presented a ton a ton of resistance and we saw that
i think josh oka is going to have problems
as he moves up. I think he's straight up just too small for this division.
Curtis Blade is not much of a thumper and he was hurting Josh Hokit pretty severely.
I think that will be a problem for Hokit.
But when he wasn't put out, when he didn't suffer so much damage that his brain shut off,
you saw that Hokit is made of grit, that he just kept coming forward.
When he was getting hurt and getting killed, he just kept charging.
and that is a very good quality to have
if he can just find a way to not fight
like Sergey Pavlovich who I think might actually hurt him quite badly
yeah probably avoid that one at this point
I think Sergey Pavich is I mean you know like Aspinall would be pretty tough
Pavlovich be pretty tough but he's also like 12 fights into his career
so he can have some time to develop a little bit more too
yeah that's why I was like a little bit
Josh Rogen is much better than Tommy
McMillan bonfish yeah much better than Tomlin mcmillan beat the probably one of the five worst
fighters on the roster uh and almost lost that fight yeah at times so like with big villain i think
they're gonna try to do something with him um but it is going to be a slow burn with him they're
going to do the patty thing with him different just like that's the right way to he's gonna fight
if you're gonna try and build this way yeah he'll go fight the john yannis when john yannis loses
next week in Winnipeg, like that's who
Tommy McMillan's going to fight next.
And then it's just going to be like
those types of dudes. Eventually
they'll give him a little bit of a step
up to like a more known name.
They'll find a Jordan Leavitt of some
kind in that division.
Not like the current
variation of Jordan Leavitt at Featherway,
but somebody like Jordan was when Patty fought him.
And then just kind of do that over and over again.
And then eventually like they'll find
good matchups with older guys
in the division to try to get him over.
But man, good on Hoka, man.
They gave him the test.
I think this is supposed to be more of a punishment than anything, honestly.
But it was honestly, like, not a bad place to be if you're the UFC.
If he loses, then he loses.
But if he wins, like, maybe you do something.
No one expected him to go out there and have a fight of the year contender with Curtis
plates.
And I'll tell you what impressed me the most about Josh Hockets.
And I wasn't just the heart in the fight being so fucking awesome.
It was the fact that, like, even when Curtis and that first,
round.
Hokit heard him.
Curtis heard him back real bad.
And then got him on the ground and had his back multiple times.
Hokut just stood right up.
No issues whatsoever.
Hsu's fake.
Just stand up.
JGJT too is not real.
Just stand up.
It was pretty wild.
So great night for Hocke.
It could not have gotten any better, honestly.
I mean,
he got two fucking bonuses,
like full on bonuses.
And two bonuses,
he got a spot on the most coveted card of all time in a winnable fight.
And now Dana.
functionally at the direct request of the president of the united states um you know he's over with the
with the promotion now yep um and i can tell you um no fighter gain more this week than like no nope
we call us allberg included no fighter game more this week yeah i don't think dana white liked
anything josh hoagin did yesterday at the i still don't think he likes him but like you just got
to respect that yeah i think i think i would guess that after that and i don't think they'll ever
publicizes this, but if I hadn't take a guess,
Dana White had a conversation with
Josh Hokit after all
that went down. I was like, dude. I know what you're
trying to do. I get it, but like cut the shit,
dude. Just cut the shit. A little
again, just
just dial it. You're trying a little too hard, dial it back.
And I said during
our watch party,
he's young, you know, everybody
thinks Chale Sonning came out and was
immediately great. Chale missed a lot.
Oh yeah. You know,
Hocot's been doing this gimmick for a hot bit.
and he's going to go.
So again, I did not think these were the conversations we'd be having.
But like, I'm giving a ton of credit to freaking Josh Hokit and Paula Costa and Carlos Oldberg
because like they all deserve it.
You can't you just have to tip your cap to them.
Yeah.
Incredible stuff.
Another thing we didn't expect, we did not expect Johnny Walker, Dominic Grace to be one of the worst fights.
It was quite bad.
It was quite bad.
I didn't expect Josh Hogan, Curtis Blades, to be a all-fame fight in one of the five best
heavyweight fights in the history of the UFC.
I mean, genuinely, that is one of the better heavyweight fights I've ever seen.
Dominic Grace, Johnny Walker was atrocious.
It was bad.
It was real bad.
I'll go back and watch the Pinto fight, I guess, just to rank it.
In my mind, that's the second worst fight of the year behind MVP Patterson, which was horrific.
I'll put, I'm only going to put Pinto.
there because that was set up to be a squash.
It was, I mean, that is true.
He was a minus a billion and that was bad, but.
A guy with a guy who was very chiny and gets not,
and like any time he got hit in the face hard by anybody that was decent,
he got knocked out.
So it was like a set up fight and then ended up being horrifically bad.
But man, Rayis Walker was really bad.
I mean, there's just no one had fun.
Crowd booing, this is boring.
That fight is so bad that if they,
weren't ranked and had long 10 years in the UFC.
If that was just like a prelim fight of guys who had one or two fights,
they would both be let go.
Yeah,
Reyes.
100%.
They would just be like,
all right,
you guys get out of here.
Zero percent chances that was a contender series fight.
Dana's given a contract to the winner.
Yikes.
It was a really bad fight.
Really bad fight.
And that,
I mean,
that also,
well,
you mentioned this,
that's partly like the Hokic Blades,
fight was so sick because we needed it because we went from the cubby fight to the dead like the
pits of despair and then vaulted right back up yeah and then cub cubs wants to just beat the hell
on an eight land where incredible ending i mean ran his ass over great stuff there he derailed the train
he sure did he sure did great and they got a video package great retirement for cubby 100
percent. What a moment.
Aaron Pico gets his first UFC win.
Looked pretty darn good doing it.
He did.
Patio Pitbull.
Tough start.
Tough, tough opening round, but got it together.
And, you know, looks like showed a lot of the things that are,
that get you excited about Aaron Pico.
I'm like, oh, this is why people were so high on him.
A lot of ability.
You know, crisp hands, good power, well-rounded.
He got it going eventually.
but I don't know what we do with him,
but good for him to get a win in the UFC.
Yes.
Kevin Holland got a win against Randy Brown.
That was an interesting fight.
Yeah, it was a weird one.
I learned very little watching that fight.
Yeah, Randy Brown just sort of felt like he just fell off a cliff in the second round.
Like when Holland got the dars, once Randy got up,
it just seemed like Randy didn't have anything left to offer.
Yeah.
I don't know if that just defending, not getting choked out, took too much out of him.
But Randy started, I thought, quite well, despite us being wrong.
And I think two or three of the judges had it 30-27s.
But, yeah, man, it was a good fight.
You know, that's a top 25-ish fight.
We didn't learn much.
Good fight.
Yes.
Matush Gamrod.
Not only wins.
I haven't seen this, but apparently quite good.
Not only wins, but he gets a finish.
Gets a finish in the fight.
Dude, I don't.
I mean, honestly, great.
And I have been higher on Matush, I think, than most people.
But I picked Estevon coming into this because I was like,
Rievovich is young, he's ascending.
And at some point, this sort of entrenched class of lightweights just has to give.
They've got to stop beating the up-and-comers.
And they don't.
refuse to give to yield ground.
And I thought Gamrod's like probably at this stage,
the worst of this group of like entrenched lightweights.
And he just apparently just kind of cooked him.
So lightweight's going to be the same 20 people at the top of it forever,
apparently, and nobody knew we'll ever get to break in.
That's just, I guess that's how it's going to be.
Yeah.
The lightweight vets are just,
it's really incredible.
you know, Poy retired,
but like the rest of these
dudes, if you're not, they're not retiring,
you're not, you know, Luda the Klein
can't get there. They, they just,
BSD's the only guy who's
kind of making headway lately.
That's tough. These guys are
credit to Matush. Also, that's got to be his first
stoppage in a hot minute, so really credit to him.
Yes. I've seen if there's anything
else from the Dana Scrum.
UFC talking to Mazlid all, they don't have anything
for him. I mean, there was
announced on the card.
Another White House thing was announced in the card
of apparently the bonuses
are going to be a million dollars
in crypto. So that's a thing.
For the White House. So something
people are going to be fighting real hard for bonuses.
They double bonus hoax it for a million
$2 million.
Oh.
Oh, never mind.
White says something about John Wiley
coming to Macau. Not sure if he means
she will be on the card.
She's definitely not going to be
on the card because
you know, the cards already
the card's already set and if she's being on the card
who's she fighting because they're not going to like
spin up McKinsey darn for a title fight
that quick. So yeah, she's not going to be
on the card. But she'll be in attendance, I'm certain.
But they've got, they've got song. They've got
my guy, the mountain tiger, who
I need something from.
Oh,
bless you.
Uh, well, it's held up.
Yeah. Matush is going to tuck in there.
Jen, if I told you that
the middle prelims would feature
back-to-back finishes
from Tatiana Suarez
a Matush Gamrod.
I don't think you would have believed me.
No one in the world would have believed me.
That would have been a healthy parlay
that you could have made there.
Tatiana Suarez gets badly hurt in the first round.
Lupi Godinez, I was like,
oh my gosh, she's going to finish her.
Oh, my God, I might actually win fantasy.
And then once Josh Hoke fought,
I would have forgotten all about that feeling.
But, and then,
Tatiana just did what she did. She just
wrestled and Loopy's not a great
defensive wrestler. She's not a great defensive grappler
and Tatian took advantage and Tatiana gets a finish
and she was all fired up. I'm like,
okay, Tatiana's going to cut a fire
promo right now. She's going to get herself
a position. That is definitely what Tatiana
was scored. She sure
didn't. She sure didn't.
And I'll tell you what she did.
She did a
gigantic favor for
Gillian Robertson. Because Gillian Robertson
is either getting a title fight or
She's fighting the winner of John Whaley and McKenzie Byrd.
So this is a great night for Jillian Robertson, thanks to Tatyana Suarez.
Then some weirdness, Jen.
The Taco Padilla, Markell Madero's fight, it is announced that Chris Padilla wins.
We see on Twitter the UFC news scorecard of, that's not right.
It should be a majority draw.
We figured somebody makes a mistake.
Turns out it was Bruce Buffer on the microphone.
We don't know that because no one apparently asked Dana about it.
Best I can assume it's Buffer, but.
So I don't know if we know the whole story on this, but it was announced.
How did nobody ask him about that?
That's bad.
I mean, it wasn't in the bronze center thread.
It doesn't mean nobody asked, but that's just kind of an important.
You should have to ask especially because the same thing happened two weeks ago.
Yeah.
So you're like, hey, outside of this being an insane thing that happened, it also
happened two weeks ago where they literally
dragged Tyrol Fortune, who
was sad and leaving, oh, I lost.
To be like, actually you didn't.
Why has this happened twice in three weeks?
Is there, like, did
something change in the process?
And that's so, but like, has
Buffer just botched it two in a row
in a very, or not quite in a row? But
what happened? Because that deserves
to be answered. So, real
shame that nobody asked him that if nobody did.
Yeah, that seemed like a pretty obvious
one. Uh,
Vicente luke taps kelvin gasolm in the first run you have to think even though gasolm's a
hall of famer for a fight uh he'll be gone he's got to be gone he gone and that's fine Kelvin
gaslam is in the exact sweet spot to go fight and bkfc yep so go fight bear knuckle you can fight mike
perry people people will tune in and then uh charles racky gets a win and then uh does what
charles racky does when a microphone is in his face i didn't see i saw i saw the
Lucke Gaston finish.
I saw
some pieces of the Padilla Madero's fight.
I saw none of Chuck Buffalo Prado.
I saw none of Tatiana
just the finish on Garemot because
I was also covering the
well, not the worst boxing event of all time,
but it was pretty bad.
It wasn't the best boxing event of all time, that's for sure.
Yeah, I saw some people being like,
oh, Tyson looked okay in there.
He did. I mean, you looked fine for being off for 16 months,
but it's a Tyson Fury fight.
so it's never fun.
He looks like Dyson Fury.
Yeah.
I mean,
they gave him like a can of corn.
They gave him a perfect fight
to get some rounds in,
and he did.
But, oof,
yeah,
that was really bad fight.
Not as bad as Dominic Grace,
Johnny Walker,
but pretty.
No,
no,
that fight was much worse.
That fight was shockingly bad.
Like,
shockingly bad.
Shout to Cosmo Kramer.
Chef Nerdman,
Izzy and Volk reaction is going to be
legendary.
for two car.
Oh, yeah, man.
Yes.
Definitely.
I mean, you'll get that easy reaction
in the next 24 hours, I would guess.
And yeah, I mean, they're going to be hype
and as well they should be
because, like, you're going to watch them
go through the process we did have.
It's ever they're more engaged on the call.
us, like, I guarantee you,
Izzy's going to be like,
F, his knee's shot.
That's so unlucky.
And then he's going to lose his mind
when Carlos can.
I'm actually kind of curious how he's gonna react to it because apparently those two are beefing I mean that seems oh are there on campus but I don't know I don't know I don't know uh Hannah V says hype Brian I'll never recover from this I assume the the Yuri I assume it's a it's a sad day for the Yuri boys but you know you live by the Bushito you die by the Bishito Spencer wild ass night boys blown knee and KO Costa upset all time heavyweight fight epic
retirement, Gable in the UFC, White House gets a seventh fight, Tatiana finished, Pico not blowing it.
What results surprised you the most tonight?
I mean, all of them are quite surprised.
Like, the main event is not surprising in its outcome, though incredibly surprising, given
the knee that it happened.
Yeah.
But if you're like, if you'd ask me yesterday, which of these things is the most surprising?
I
Probably
Say Costa upset
No, I would still go with the heavyweight fight being an all-timer
That just wasn't on the radar
That's the answer
That's the answer
There's a lot of surprising things that happened tonight
But yeah, that's the one
Wilson, thank you, is Mike on Otto tomorrow
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Gary love Yuri
But when you let professional fighters punch you in the face
It's gonna hurt
Reyes plus 700 by decision was electric
Should be hoping
I bet that was electric for you
Yeah
Yeah I mean
I thought Yuri would take
the shots better. I mean, he ate
he ate such a clean left hand
that it's hard to take, but like
you know, Poetan put him down a couple
of times before he killed him, killed him.
And Olberg only needed the one.
So good on him. I am a little bit bumped.
I wanted
I know that I'm the only person who wants this.
And I understand that I'm the only person who cares
about fighters just building legacies
because I guess I'm old or something. I don't know.
I very much wanted Alex Pereau to fight Carlos
Albert.
because I thought that that Carlos Olberg deserved his chance to fight Alex Pereira for the light heavyweight title.
I understand what they've done and that's fine.
I am,
but when Oberg goes out and wins a fight like that,
now I just think,
man,
I'd like to see those two fight and we're probably not going to get it.
And that is a bummer to me and me alone,
I suppose.
But there's just a slight sadness that we're doing the Alex Neveway thing.
Yeah.
Hermann,
UFC 327 in the books, a two-parter
letter grade for tonight
and what is one memory from
tonight that will live on forever? For me, a B-plus
and Hocke it became a star.
This is a good question.
I'm giving it an A.
I know that the...
It's an A-minus for me.
The truth is like, I...
Hocit Blades is so good.
I forgot that how much
Reyes
Walker sucked.
And, you know, when you've got maybe the fight of
of the year on a card. You've got the comeback of the year on the card. That's an A.
So an A card, I think the one I will probably end up remembering the most is the Hokic,
not the Hokka fight, sorry, the, the Ulberg comeback because it was so unlikely that he
win the fight and he did it instantly. And like, probably the last chance he had to win it.
Geary just throwing that fight away and Alberg taking it is pretty epic shit.
so that's, I think that's, and it's a title, which is always worth more.
But like the, again, the Hokit Blades fight might win fire the year.
So we're going to remember that.
This is a two-headed super memorable thing.
Plus, you know, a little behind those two probably.
Cubs Swanson went out on top.
We get so few great MMA retirements.
You get a couple.
We've got more of the past few years than we had basically forever.
That was a really, really, really good MMA retirement.
I don't think it's the best one ever,
but it's like on the short list.
And so it's a very memorable night.
I had a great time,
even with the one really bad fight.
Yeah, A minus for me.
And it would be an A,
I can't give it an A because of the really bad fight.
So I will give it an A minus,
which these days you get an A minus number of event.
It's pretty freaking good because nothing this year has been an A minus.
Nothing.
Yeah, we have fun with a lot of other cards.
And it's getting better.
The cards have improved.
proved over the last month.
I like 328 a lot.
I'll be transparent.
I don't think much of Winnipeg.
I don't remember what's after Winnipeg.
I think we're back in the Apex.
That's the...
Sterling's a law call.
I just don't know what that card is off the saw in my head.
I think Winnipeg has some moments.
But look, I had a great time tonight, and that's all that matters to me.
Then it's, after that is Perth, which is J.D.M.
Prattice, right?
Yes.
So that would be fun.
fight and the Perth cards have been mostly bad lately so I don't know what they've got supporting
it but that fight is great I love that fight a lot yes Tai 2 vases on that card as well uh against
somebody not ranked he should destroy uh right Gamrott save his job with the finish
I don't know if he saved his job um I'm sure he get because like he's top 10 dude
like they're just not I don't think they're going to throw him away because he's also like
He hasn't I don't think he's tough to work with.
He fights out of a camp that the UFC has deep ties to obviously.
Like he doesn't think he makes a ton of money.
I don't think he makes a ton like he seems like a guy who they're never going to push,
but they're happy to have around.
Sure.
Isn't like a problem.
But he definitely earned a little extra love for finishing Riebeovich.
And then again, tough.
I thought Rivavich had a chance to to ascend here.
And the lightweights, they keep doing it, man.
UFC cards and a hot streak
feels like our fandoms needed this
Which prelim fighter impressed you
The most P.S. My Soul Years
For Vosos versus Pico
Someday.
Vigeos would do
irresponsibly bad things.
My son would
My son would hurt that man.
Yeah, he would destroy our Pico.
So I don't think we're going to see that fight someday
because it would go really, really badly for Aaron Pico.
Maybe if Pico gets wins,
but it won't happen next
because Jerez is going to be fighting
up.
Javis are trying
to get to a belt.
And Pico's not
on the path to the
And I would be very,
very careful
who you match Aaron Pico
I'm interested
to see what they do.
I can't,
I will listen to Otno
either tomorrow or Monday
and see where you all go
because I'm not entirely sure
what I'd do with Aaron Pico right now.
As far as
underdog or
a prelim fighter that impressed me
the most,
again,
I missed most of the prelims.
So tough for me
to speak super confidently
about this.
But I was,
I will say that of the things I was the most confident on the prelims, I really felt that Kelvin Gasselm was going to beat Vicente Lucay.
Shout out to Jeremy Cruz, who in our Slack was like, it seems really weird that Lucke is this big a dog because Gasolm's not that good and Luca is.
To which my response wanted to be, Lucille had a brain bleed a couple of years ago and is super washed.
And now he's moving up to middleweight, a division.
He has no, no business being in.
and apparently he did because he ran over Calvin Gaston
who has been quite durable in his career for the most part
so that was the most surprising one and good for Lucay
to still be picking up dubs despite probably shooting
like you probably should retire by now but still out there winning
I'm surprised we were on an agreement here
Tatinas Juarez oh well I didn't because like she killed your climb
I mean I screw that girl I don't care I also I saw
literally none of that so I can't I at least saw the finish for luke which is cool yeah it was a good
win um again I know Joseph asked about this is she like in a fight for the belt next or something no
she's not they gave her a chance she got she got destroyed in she needs to build more goodwill
her 2025 was quite bad it was real bad she got dummied by jean we lee in a very non-competitive
fight and then she had the worst fight of 2025 like in this
This wasn't a barn burner.
Like she got badly hurt by Lupy in the first round.
Her offense in the first round was not good.
It was just like she just laid on top and like didn't get finished.
And then she did the same in the second.
She did get the finish.
That was great.
But like we're not going to go back and watch that fight again.
So I mean, it was a good win.
She needed to finish badly.
And she got it.
But she's not getting a title shot.
But like I said earlier, she gave,
she just did a gigantic.
favor for Julian Robertson.
Huge favor.
So Tatiana is going to win.
She's going to have to win
I don't know.
One maybe two more.
At least one more.
And if Zhang regains the title,
she's going to have to win about a hundred more.
They're definitely not doing that one quick.
They will never put those two.
Because she can buy John Liley
200 times. She will not win the same.
They might let her lose to Duren when Dern after Dern beats
Jean during the champ.
I'm going to steadfastly say that Dern's going to
beat Zhang the same way you
committed to
to Gable in the White House.
I will just, I will
you, in your heart
you'd like to believe that. We don't
know for a fact. What we do know is that
factually you were incorrect. If Curtis
Blades beat Josh Hokit,
Gable Steven would have been fighting Derek Lewis in the
White House. Maybe. Maybe that way. It's not maybe.
It would have. We'll never know.
And he's just going to have to fight on the
But McKinsey, Darren is going to beat January Lee. And
I'm going to say that until it happens.
Let's see.
Come on, guys.
There's an A plus card for excitement drama skills on the play.
Not an A plus card.
Again, I gave it an A.
You can't give it an A plus because of the RAS Walker fight.
Yeah.
You simply cannot.
A plus means you didn't miss anything.
That fight is bad, bad.
But it's an A.
A plus is like,
A plus is like UFC 300.
UFC 290.
Like UFC 290 was an A plus.
Like that card rock.
194.
Every fight has to be good for an A plus.
They all got to be bangers.
And you can't even,
you say you gave you time to make a beer run.
You can't make a beer run because there was always the threat
that maybe they would do something and hit each other.
They never did.
Can't be an A plus.
Again,
I do think it's an A, though.
Yeah,
I give it an A minus.
Like, A minus is excellent.
Great score.
People, that's a 90.
Yeah, UFC 205.
Like, that's a plus kind of.
Yeah, UFC 300 is an A plus.
Yeah.
This was not U.S.
There's like,
we're not in the same neighborhood.
Yeah.
There's like six A plus cards ever.
Like those are like the greatest of the great.
Like can't miss Hall of Fame events.
This is not a Hall of Fame event.
It's a very good event near great.
But it's not an A plus.
It's not 290.
It's not 300.
It's not.
When we were talking about a main card fight that was one of the worst of the year,
it just can't be an A plus.
No.
It can't be.
You can't do it.
I don't make the rules.
I do.
Would you say Seattle is an A plus?
No,
but Seattle felt like an A.
That was really good.
That was quite good.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Not A plus,
though.
Again,
but we're on a good run right now.
Maybe Winnipeg will surprise us.
Yeah.
You take UFC London out of the equation for the past like several weeks.
They're on a heater right now.
Yeah.
London was bad.
London was quite tough.
Two very good fights.
you did get the Mason Jones fight
which is great I thought the main event was fantastic
it was good but we had the worst fight
of the year two of the worst fights
of the year and another really really bad fight
the fight that was
it was awful but we forgot about it because
MVP Patterson was so bad
yeah London was horrific
that was a bad that was a bad card
we're on a good run
the last two apex cards were good
let's see hopefully Winnipeg will be good
114. UFC Vegas 114 is one of the three best cards of the year.
115 was good, but because the bar was so low,
I can't put it in the same mix as Michael Bisbing and all them,
saying it was like the best card of the year.
We had fun.
We had a good time.
We had a good time.
That's the thing.
This was fun and there are things that I will remember for the remainder of the year
and our substantive.
Last week it was fun and literally nothing mattered.
That is just not the case here.
It is a very, very good card.
Yeah. We will be talking about this event through Winnipeg.
When Winnipeg comes to an end, we sure will.
We're probably not talking about Winnipeg at all.
We're still talking 37.
And you'll be talking about it on onto the next one tomorrow.
Yes.
And we'll be talking about it on our post-fight column, which will drop on Monday.
Yes.
Time to go.
I don't know if we have anything else, but if not.
Yeah, we got.
I've been working for almost 12 hours straight.
We got a million things.
And I still have to drive home.
there's the music.
Oh, the music.
I can't hear anything like that.
Pour it out for my beautiful son.
You know, we don't condone everything he did today.
We don't love his post-flight.
You don't always love your father.
Not everything your child has to do.
You love him.
You love him in spite.
We love you.
We love you.
It happens.
You know you'll be back.
We'll be back.
At BTL on Thursday.
Yes.
And you'll be back to bar.
In a few hours.
I'll be back tomorrow
We'll have some fun
AK and I doing some matchmaking
And the good news is we don't have to mass break for Josh Hokit
Because Donald Trump already did it for us
So
Jed gets an odd no point
I did it for us
I can't believe AK is going to get
7,000 points
Okay
AK I think was his last round pick
And was deeply unhappy taking him
And going to single
He's going to be the most successful player
Ever drafted in the history
Yeah
This is Lidani and Tomlinson
And whatever that was 05
I'll be keeping Gabe I'll be keeping Gable steveson forever and A.K.S.
and be keeping Josh Hogan forever.
Ludicrous point all for.
Unbelievable.
All right.
For Jedi, Mike Hack, thank you for watching all night long.
Six and one, baby.
Six and one.
Go at yourself.
I love it.
I can't believe my only win was Paul Ocosta.
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