MMA Fighting - UFC Atlantic City Post-Fight Show | Reaction To Fiorot's Shutout, Weidman's Controversial Win

Episode Date: March 31, 2024

Manon Fiorot closed out Saturday's UFC Atlantic City win by sweeping the scorecards against Erin Blanchfield in the main event. As dominant as Fiorot's performance was, compared to other moments on the card, it was incredibly tame as controversy stole the headlines. Following the UFC's most recent Fight Night event, MMA Fighting's Mike Heck, Jed Meshew, and José Youngs react to Fiorot's lopsided victory, discuss if a title shot will be next for the surging contender, and where Blanchfield goes from her first octagon loss. Additionally, the panel discusses Joaquin Buckley's second-round finish of Vicente Luque in the co-main event and where he fits in the welterweight division, Chris Weidman getting his first victory since 2020 against Bruno Silva, the controversy surrounding the multiple eye pokes that led to the finish, the bout being changed from a TKO to a technical unanimous decision, Weidman's reaction to it in his post-fight interview with Michael Bisping, and other storylines from a bizarre event. Follow Mike Heck: @MikeHeck_JR Follow Jed Meshew: @JedKMeshew Follow José Youngs: @JoseYoungs Subscribe to MMA Fighting Check out our full video catalog Like MMA Fighting on Facebook Follow on Twitter Read More: http://www.mmafighting.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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because if you are awake right now and you are listening to the sound of my voice, then you're the true MVP because UFC Atlantic City is over and done with and it seemed like we've been watching fights for 15 hours at this point. It was just kind of one of those cards

that had a little bit of everything. Emotions ran wild. There was happiness, sadness, anger, all sorts of weirdness happening with the refereeing and judge's scorecards. But in the end, Mennon Fioro closes the show

with a shutout win over Aaron Blanchfield, 5045 across the board. Joaquin Buckley makes a big statement at 170 pounds with his fists. Not so much with the microphone. We'll get into that. And then there was controversy

for Christopher Wyden's first win in quite some time. And we'll obviously talk about that as well. But I am Mike Eck. Got a crew here. First, let us say hello. to Mr. No Gray area, the hot take kid himself, Jed Mishu, who I'm sure is going to give this card a glowing review, aren't you, Jed? It's hard to know how much of this card was bad because it's won, and this was PFL paste, versus just like it was also super weird.

We'll get into it. You're not getting my hottest takes tonight because I think my hottest takes would get me fired. So I'll be lukewarm take Jed tonight because I like my job and I would prefer to keep it. Okay I mean You can't just leave me on a thread like that I might have to try to prod it out of you at least to some degree And joining us on the East Coast

Mr. Jose Youngs in New York City 140 a.m. Jose doing a post-fight show Not after a pay-per-view either how are we feeling This is trash East Coast fight nights are trash Everyone moved to the West Coast This is trash There's a reason the gold rush happened

And everyone moved out west because they would have to watch UFC fight nights at 2 in the morning. It's trash. You're not wrong, man. You're just not wrong. I don't even know where to begin here. I truly don't. I mean, normally we would just immediately start with the main event.

So I guess we can start there. But Jed, as a website, we're very high on Aaron Blanchfield. And look, she's still only 24 and she had an off night. and she kind of got thumped up for 25 minutes outside of a guillotine attempt. And she landed a couple of strikes. She went a little crazy in the fourth round and had some moments, a couple moments in the fifth round. But this is the Man and Fioro show.

What did you take away the most from this fight? Did you learn more about Manon Fioro? Did you learn more about Aaron Blanchfield and the improvements she needs to make? Who did you learn more from tonight? My biggest takeaway from this fight is that I'm an idiot. I'm a very stupid man. And that's what I thought for almost immediately when they walked out and I was like, oh, these aren't in the same way class. I know that they are, but Manofiore is enormous and that's a problem. And it turned out to be a huge problem. No one has ever claimed that Aaron

Blanchfield is the next GSP, right? No one has ever been like, she's so amazingly talented and skilled and well-rounded. It's like, oh, she's a physical force with a gas tank for days and an elite grappler and a confident enough striker to be okay here. And you saw all of that, all right, except for what happens when that physical force meets someone who is just a stone horse and much bigger than her. It's like, okay, well, you can't do the thing you want to do and now you're doing the thing that you're not particularly good or refined at. And I mean, she had as much success, as I would have assumed she would have if you told me this fight would be contested entirely on the feet. But that wasn't good enough. And so my takeaway is just I perpetually underestimate how much it matters to just be a hoss.

Hossin is the strongest style. And Menon Furo is a hoss. She is, we talked about it in the threat in our slack. She's Caitlin Chukagian if Caitlin Chigigian was big and athletic. And Kailen Chikian, got pretty close to winning a title. Mano Furo with those two very necessary improvements, probably going to win one, I guess. And I don't know what to do with that information, but it does seem like that's the world we're living in right now. Was that your biggest takeaway as well, Jose?

Because there were certain points in this fight where Aaron against other opponents, she would just kind of like barrel into them and at least could force the opponent to move backwards a step. It was almost like watching a TV show or a movie of like little unathletic kids playing football and they're running into the coach holding a pad as fast as they can and then they just fall down.

That's kind of like every time they collided, Aaron Blanchfield like Manifior just stood her ground. Aaron went backwards a little bit. She hossed her up. Is that your biggest takeaway that man is just so much bigger and stronger than her that Aaron really couldn't do much with it? I guess in like the surface level, I guess that's pretty accurate. But it just my biggest takeaway is Aaron.

Aaron just didn't have a plan B. If plan A doesn't work, just keep doing plan A until it works. And then she just ran out of time. I guess man in size made the biggest difference. It's also just like her last few opponents, like Molly McCann and Molly McCann, who was kind of the win that propelled Aaron into this title contention, not because Molly's this world beater, but because she's really popular. Like Molly just kind of runs forward to and is not the highest level grappler.

And that played into Aaron's favor. Tyler just kind of runs forward as well. And she looks to grapple, which plays right into Aaron's game plan. And then she just fought someone that was bigger who probably just put an entire camp together that specifically for keeping Aaron off of her outside of, you know, that first guillotine that looks pretty tight right out of the gate. But Manin had a game plan. She stuck with it.

And Aaron had a game plan. And when the game plan didn't work, she just didn't really know what to do. So outside of the whole size matters, their weight classes and this and that. I just think my biggest takeaway is Aaron needs a second gear or a backup plan if plan A of run forward doesn't work. Yeah, it was just one of those things where if she went, I think we were saying in our Slack channel, Aaron going Yolo was like the best thing she could have done. And then when she actually did it, it was just too little too late. Too late. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. The only time she had like reals and tests. Yeah. She just threw a bunch of things, just ran at her and hit her a whole bunch. but eventually Manon was able to get space again and did Manon things. And she's got nobody else to fight right now. I mean, she really doesn't.

I don't think Manon's going to be the like Aaron, because I think a lot of us assumed Aaron was going to win that she would probably take another fight and just kind of stay busy. I just don't know if Manon's going to stay busy right now. 34 years of age, that window is not saying that it's like completely closing on her, but if she's going to make a title run, it's now. and if she's going to get that shot, she's got to do it now. So if you're her, Jed, you're not taking anybody else, right?

You already beat Rose. That's like, would be the only compelling name, but you already won that fight. You ain't doing anything unless there's a title involved, right? I'm not, but I'm also not entirely sure that choice will be allowed for her. I mean, Bisp being basically like, you know, you can't take too much from this, but sort of tip the hand and be like, so would you be willing to just sit and wait? or would you be willing to fight somebody else as like a post-fight interview question,

which is insane. She just beat the number two contender. Why would you not be like just going under the assumption? So kind of feels like the UFC might want her to fight somebody else. I don't know if she'll have the choice or not. I assume she can sit and wait. And if she does, it's fine. I also, just because the chat's going off on me,

and fair play, I'm super high on Aaron Blanchfield. I'll take my lumps, fair enough. so we're super clear. Aaron Blancherlisd is still going to be the champion in this weight class. She's 24 years old and who else is here in this weight class. She lost to one of the best fighters in the world and apparently a horrific style matchup for her. But this doesn't change my opinion that Aaron Blanchfield is the future of this weight class. She is.

Do you guys think 34-year-old Manafiro is going to be hanging around for the next 10 years? seems unlikely. So I stand by all of it, but come at me, bros. You've earned it. So what are the comments saying? I don't usually look at them live. I thought Aaron Blanchfield was the future. You're saying she's next to Beeb.

Well, everyone seems to think of Abe lost to Glees and Teabout. It almost the exact same circumstances of Glees and T-Bowl just a big old hoss. And it's hard. So this is, Monell Firo is the Gleason T-Bowout. of women's flyweight. And that's, you know, good for her. Like I said, this was, I,

everything I said holds true. I did not give them enough credit in my initial thing, like the first part was saying, where I was super impressed by her willingness to stick to the game plan. Like Jose pointed out, she had a game plan, and she didn't deviate from that for shit. For 25 minutes, she's like,

I'm just going to keep throwing this lead right hook and this straight left hand. And Ambrancher was going to, walk right onto it and that's fine with me and bism being in commentary team and being like well you know i'd like to see you try and put a stamp on and finish and she was like why the hell would would i try and do that i'm winning the hell out of this fight i'm about to hang a 50 45 on the future of this weight class uh it was super disciplined performance obviously the i would say the best win of her career so straight up full credit to her for this uh but again my biggest takeaways i'm a big

well dumbass because I discounted just Halson. Halston is life and man, she's Halston. Where does Aaron Blanchfield go from here, Jose? I think we know where Mann is going. You just fights Macy Barber or fights for the belt. Depends on what she wants.

It doesn't seem like she's going to be in any rush to fight anybody else unless it's Alexa Graster or Valentina Shepchenko. But as far as Aaron Blanchfield goes, where does she go? Who would you like to see your fight? If anything pops out to you, how far of a step back? What are we thinking here?

Obviously, she shouldn't take, she shouldn't take a massive step back because, again, there's, like, women's flyway is interesting at the top because now, like, for a long time, it was the Valentina show. Now we actually have some sort of movement. Macy obviously got sick. Macy, she should not fight Macy because honestly, if Valentina and Alexa, if their first two fights were pretty back and forth wars, if the winner of that needs some time off, I would not be opposed to Manny and Macy. you know, headlining a fight night. And for a number one contender, I feel like that one makes sense. So I don't know, the Rose fight is there.

And I guess being Rose and Kalyn Chukagan or not what's, Calen Chakin is a new last name. Serminara. Cermanara. So I guess one of those two, but just by default. Do it, Cermanara. Let's go. Yeah, the Callin fight, I guess would be interesting because, you know,

that's another tall fighter that has a similar style as men. So it just, yeah, just be a new way for Aaron to kind of work. out the kinks and then rose is the bigger name and also a high-level grappler striker and a win over either one of those two would kind of keep her steady but outside of that she could rematch tracy cortez that's her only other loss that was back in invicta which i actually think i actually think erin won that fight um that would be an interesting one i just don't know how far back she wants to go like erin versus tracy in the sphere uh because tracy likes to fight on mexican the pen stay i think that'd be a lot of fun too so maybe something like that i don't know i guess it's just

name that would be interesting for her because she's obviously very clearly better than 99% of this division she's clearly at worst at worst the fourth best fighter at flyway so it just depends on who you wanted to beat yeah i like the cortez idea run that one back sermonara come on guys we spent years wanting anderson Silva to fight his clone and now we can get minonfuro versus kately sermonara it's it's like this is the dollar sporee this is the dollar spree I'm talking about Blanchfield, though. Oh, Blanchfield. Oh, yeah.

Yeah, then find Serenar. That's fine, too. Who cares? Cermanar already lost to Manorffero. Come on, dog. Oh, my God. You're right. In Abu Dhabi.

You can go watch, uh, you can go watch the post-fight scrum on MMA fighters YouTube channel, shot by Hose and a year ago. I don't know. I don't think, I think it was two years ago. A half a year ago. It was true Abu Dhabhabi. Ah, no. we do have bonuses for this card.

Yeah. Performance of the night, no surprise. Choochoo, baby. Nate Landware. Dennis Vajuka gets a bonus. Fight of the night. Shout out to the pleasure man getting himself a bonus. On the way out.

Well, maybe, you know. We should just run this one right back. Who's got to complain about watching Tricali and Ebo? OSI and get after it again or Ibo Islam fighting again. I wouldn't complain about that. It was good stuff. And they get 50K apiece. Congratulations to them for getting the job done.

Joaquin Buckley did not get a bonus tonight. I'm kind of surprised by that. Gets the biggest win of his career. Jed, let's talk about Numanza because, boy, the talent in that octagon is pretty money. He is just going out there. He's getting work done. Going out there and thump it up Vicente Lucke like that.

pretty darn impressive. Your thoughts on Joaquin Buckley, the fighter, in the cage, while the fight was happening, and I'm sure you might have some things to say

about Joaquin Buckley, the man with a microphone talking to Michael Bisbing after the biggest win of his career. I'm in a great performance from Buckley, right? I still have no idea how good of a welterweight he is. He has obviously not a bad one.

Vicente Lucay. I think I had him ranked in top 15, but there was always kind of the question about like, where is Luque? You know, he's had a couple of tough wars. Yes, he beat RDA, but RDA is a well-to-weight, whatever, but Luca was never really in that fight. He didn't get the doors blown off him in the first round, but he was never really able to get going in any sort of a way. And while Buckley, I don't think Buckley had like a super successful first round, he really nullified Luca and then the second round just

ran over him in that sort of weird collision guard pull maybe situation but the biggest one of his career certainly he's going to be ranked now and i have no idea like where he actually falls in the scheme of walterweights he's still super young he's like 28 i think so he can be really good and he has a lot of physical tools to succeed but i mostly left this fight being like i'm super interested in where he goes from here and kind of what he does. And unfortunately, he then tried to kill that with his post-fight speech, which I still don't understand how you call out Anheuser-Busch. I don't like get a manager, bro. They're the ones who set that up, not a post-fight speech. The post-fight speech is how you get yourself from A to B as far as a person that you would be

fist fighting next. And instead he's like, I just want to, one, I also not really sure why he's like super pumped on fighting in St. Louis either. Because have you seen that card? It's terrible. Although maybe that's why. Because he knows he has a pretty good chance of getting a bonus check if he fights in the St. Louis car. Easy card to steal the show. So maybe that's smart of him,

I guess. But you should at least pick somebody. If your whole thing is, I want to get ranked so I can climb and, you know, make a run at it. Great. You just did it. You're now going to be ranked. You need to now have a next step in the plan, not just be like whoever wants to fight me and say,

St. Louis, Anheuser, Bush. I don't know what that was about. It was real dumb. This man is following the Belaw-Mohamed School of being shit on the microphone, and that's not good for anybody. So, great performance, and I am sad about Vicente Lucke, because this is an all-time violence guy who looks slow in there. I'm not sure he's, I don't think he's still got his A-game on him anymore,

which is a shame because he's still a very young man, but a lot of miles on them. Yeah, a lot of wars, and that's just going to catch up to everybody, and I kind of feel like it's caught up to Vicente, I don't want to take anything away from Buckley's performance because he looked damn good tonight. Would you think, Jose? Buckley getting it done, calling out Anheiser-Busch

and wants to go to St. Louis. I don't really take any stake stock in post-fight callouts, because even if he did call out a name, wasn't going to fight them. The UFC never books fights that fighters call for. If they do, it's incredibly rare. it was a weird fight because Vicente Lucke got pulled a guard and then when he got stuck down there he just didn't really try to escape um it was weird it for a while it didn't even look like

buckley was landing clean punches i just thought like oh luke's fine right here like he's blocking he's moving like he's moving his head but he's not trying to get up he's not trying to hit escape he's not trying to pull him in to do anything it just felt like i don't know what happened it's because it didn't look like he got hit because he's the one that pulled the guard so i don't quite know what was going on. And then when the referee stopped the fight, Vicente Lucque stood right up. Like he, he wasn't down hurt. Like he stood up and walked to the fence. It was bizarre. Buckley won Feren Square. I am curious what was going on with Viscente Lucke. It just felt like, yeah, he just, he didn't show any signs of life. Like he didn't even do

step one. He got stuck. He was getting punched. And step one is, you know, try to get out. didn't do that. Block was blocking, but wasn't trying to stop the punches. And optically, it's not great when someone the size of walking Buckley is punching, whether he's landing or not. So when the referee stopped it,

there was no argument. He just stood up and walked over the corner. So odd, real odd performance. I'm not quite sure it to make on it. Because even walking, he said that. Yeah, he's like, he wasn't hurt.

Buckley himself said he wasn't. He wasn't. I don't understand why that fight played out the way it did. because tonight was just super weird a lot of super weird true yeah they kept saying like oh this tied the uc fight night record for eight knockouts i'm like did it because it sure doesn't seem like it like it's a fact but it doesn't feel like it yeah i wonder if it's kind of like a jacobalcun petrosky situation where he shot and like i honestly thought it might just like that because he doesn't really pull guard like he he sort of just falls back over but then i couldn't see

him being dazed but on replays I was like did he just KO himself on Buckley's hip too because that would be some super weird stuff I don't know yeah because Louca just like the way that finally exchange went and just looked like as Jose was saying it just looked like he was just waiting

for the referee to stop the fight he was just like okay he's real weird I just don't want to do this anymore hey look sometimes you just decide I don't want to be here anymore I'm gonna leave work early today and that's what I That is what happened.

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Even then, I think you're probably wrong as the other two judges had at 3027, but scoring that fight for Reese McKee is almost criminal. Kyle Nelson, just looking damn good. I know there's some question about the stoppage in that one. We could probably talk about that. Your Sultan, Roots Above just annihilate said Ricky Dumas. But possible eye poke, actually clearly was an eye poke. And that wasn't the last time.

that I pox played a factor in a fight because we go to the featured bout. The one everyone was looking forward to, the one everybody had their eye on, Chris Wydman, was it going to be his final fight? How would he handle Bruno Silva? It was a fight.

People thought he could win. I know, I believe Jedmanishu had a bet on Chris Wyman. He was a pretty popular underdog, and Wyman had a nice first round. Then the second round happens. little exchange. Wyman kind of steals it at the end and there's eye pokes that are happening and there's a warning, then there's another warning and then we continue on. Then we go to the third round. They poke each other in the eye and Bruno Silva gets the worst of it, it appears, and referee Gary

Copeland is like, all right, this is the final warning. No more eye pokes. I'm really going to, really get to crank down on this one. And then we see Brito Silla fall to the mat. And Chris Wyman gets on top of him and he starts running punches. And Gary Copeland comes in and stops the fight. And everyone in Atlantic City Bordwaq Hall loses their shit. They go crazy. Wyman leaps out of the cage like he just won the title.

First win since 2020. Emotions are high. They have run high. And then we see the replay. It is not one eye poke. It is two eye pokes. Bruno Silva just goes down in a heap because of that second eye poke and Wyman pounces and gets the win. It is announced as a TKO victory.

And then Brennan Fitzgerald, after Chris Wyden's victory speech to Michael Bisbing, which I'm sure we're going to get into in a moment, it is revealed that it becomes a technical decision unanimous for Chris Widman because of the foul. They go right to the scorecards, no point deducted, no nothing. Chris Wyden gets a win. Jed, I know it seems like this moment happened four hours ago with how the pacing of this card was and how the main event was. What is your reaction to all this? Because this is, you want to be happy for Wyman here.

Like, you finally gets a win. But then you see how it plays out and how the reaction is. And it's just tough scenes, man. Like you could try to swing it however you like, but this isn't good. This just isn't. It's all the way awful. Every part of this is awful. first last week there were people coming in the chat and being like oh i thought it was always good

to cheat the bider didn't work out for him and i had to be like one like let's be reasonable you idiots uh but this is why it's always good to cheat chris wabber just got tk ovi i poke he's getting two checks and everything's great for him uh this is insane there's no nothing good happened here every piece of it was bad chris wabin was winning that fight. Chris, I mean, was also egregiously

poking Silva in the eyes. Four officially, I guess, if we're counting the TKOing ones. But, like, just also was repeatedly doing it. If Michael Biss being

the commentary team would be like, why'd be just keep, keeping those fingers out and pokey and nobody said anything. The thing that really gets me, right, is it's absolutely garbage

how this ended. Pretty clearly should have. have been a DQ loss for Wyman. Again, this is from a man who actually won a good chunk of money on Chris Wyman tonight. I shouldn't have. That's dirty money because he should have been decued, even outside of it, if you're just never going to decue people because this is a silly sport and people are stupid who follow it, that the tech decision should, like, a point should have been deducted because

Gary Copeland took a point earlier in the evening for repeated eyepokes. But this time he was like, no. And genuinely the only answer I have for that is like pretty blatant favoritism for Chris Wyden because we like Chris Widman and he is a former champion because he poked that man in the eye egregiously and suffered zero consequence as a result of it. But the biggest thing, the actual biggest takeaway from all of this is the worst one of it all, which is, man, Chris Widman bungled that. Like, he gets gifted this win.

Absolutely should have been DQed. At best, he should have scraped a no contest out of this. And then has the audacity to get on the mic afterwards and blame Bruno Silva. And that's how you know we're living in the upside down. And how Chris Wydenman has, like, been mentally going through the ringer the last five years. Because this win was so important to him, like just getting a win in the octagon again, was so meaningful after what he has been through, that all. logic and reason vacated his head immediately.

And he was like, well, I also was getting poked in the eye. You weren't. We watched the replays. You just weren't. And if you were, it was not the like jabbing finger into the eyeball that you were giving Mr. Silva. And two, just be like, you know, I poked him in the eye. But really, that's his fault.

You can't fall down when you get stabbed in the eyeball. Because then the ref, you know, they're just doing this thing. So really, you got to blame him for this was the most insane stance I've ever heard from a fighter who knew that he cheated. Like, knew that he did. He was not, I didn't poke him, I punched him in the eye

and you can't fall down like that. It was like, no, I did it, but screw that dude. You're a wuss and an idiot for falling over when I stabbed you in the eyeballs. What is happening? Like, it blew my mind that he could do that.

I would say anything you want to add to that as I was muted um no I mean Jed kind of summed it up it was I just wish Chris because the fight against Brad Tavares his last fight you know it was all about

like coming back from his leg injury and everything and then Brad just kicked his legs relentlessly and that was just sad and then even if the even if there were no multiple eye stabbings in this fight it was still not the best fight. Like yeah, Chris got the decision win.

Like, it's a decision win. Was it not? It wasn't even like a TKO win as it went to the judge's scorecards. It's still, Chris Wyman just looks like he was stuck in first gear. And Bruno Silva's game plan was do nothing. So it was an object that refused to move versus the wind. Like, it was weird. It was real odd. And then they just honestly

The only offense was stabbing the other person in the eye And then Chris Wyman won a decision Which is unfortunate Because if he had loss, I'd be like Chris, it's time to hang Even if he had won. If he had won like a 30, 27, I'm like, you know Chris, You didn't look great. Go out on top.

Win in Atlantic City right off into the sunset. Go off on a win. Then he stabbed Bruno Silva a bunch in the face And now, and he still didn't look great. So it's like worse than a lot. loss because he's going to come back and people are going to be like, oh, is he going to win clean and it's going to look sad again?

So, I don't know. It was just a silly fight. It was a very, very silly fight. It was a very silly fight. It was a very silly fight. Should have been a DQ. Dude, there's a gentleman in the chat right now who, and I wrote this down as I wanted to make sure I had it. Bruno was flopping at every

slight thing, though. He was flopping every time he got stabbed in the eyeball. As one would, when you get stabbed in the eyeball. Let me just shove a finger three knuckles deep into your corny and see how you take it, homie. What are we talking about here?

Bruno sucks. Can you even take four pokes? This take, I'm not talking about. The one that you wrote down, that might be one of the first takes. Unbelievable. Is this the guy who was the judge that scored the fight for Reese McKee? Because that's the only thing that makes there. I don't know.

Maybe that show's going to stabs in the eye. Don't flop when I go knuckle deep in my eyes. No, right. It's just don't. Don't do it, man. You got to keep your feet in that situation. It's a bad look. Bad look for the referee.

It's a bad look for the ref. He's going to stop. It's a shame, too, because Gary Copeland, I was giving him praise earlier in the night. I was like, oh, look, you correctly took a point in whichever fight that was, was that Arce Burns, you correctly took a point in that fight. And then like, whatever the fight was where it was, it was, uh, it was a, Evo Oslo, when Evo was like, I'm ready.

It was like, you don't have to come out yet. You have time from the groin shot. Take your time. It's fine. It was like, oh, Gary Copeland's doing good roughing things. And then the widening fight happened. And we were just like, nope, let's light all that goodwill on fire. Yeah, it just got like progressively worse because a lot of people gave him shit for the, how

the Bill Algeo fight ended that they stopped it too soon. I didn't have a big issue with that, but a lot of people did. But this is, this is stuff. This is, this is stuff. So, all right, let's go to the peeps because I got to tell you, I want the people to really kind of think for us right now. Because there's just so much weirdness. And if we're getting takes like, it was such a weird car. Like Brito was flopping around.

Then I need, I, you know, I'm excited to see what we have. Of course, I'm pretty confident. I'm pretty confident. that none of these fans believe that. They're just saying it because they want to get noticed. Yeah. I mean, I don't know. Chris Wyden apparently believes it.

Chris Wyden believes a lot of silly things, though. Lazy bed. I don't know why y'all late to stop poking around. Very good. Very good. Nice, lazy. We mentioned this earlier, but. Thank you, Michael. Manon is the French Caitlin Serminara.

There you go. Cool. No notes. No notes. Big if true. DJLF729. Jed, after watching tonight, where would you like to see Dern moving up to 125 to fight Keyland Serminauer?

Should it be another roadshow main event? Dern versus Caitlin? I would pick Dern and I would be wrong to do it, but that's just my lot in life. Because she'll have a moment when she does get the fight to the ground and she just like backpacks her and is all like gets a choke sort of in. I would like, oh look, if she would just do the good thing all the time instead of all the other time when she's not doing the good thing, she could she be unbeatable. So, I mean, I'd watch it And K. And K.L. Serrinar would absolutely hang a 29-28 decision on her.

And I'd feel bad because that's just who I'm going to be. I can't help it. This is who I am. Can't quit her. Can't do it. I said going into this last fight, I wouldn't. And me and Shaheen started texting afterwards and we're like, God damn it.

We said we were quitting the Dern train. And we can't. I just can't do it. Shout out to D here. Anyone cringe and Wyman blatantly poked Bruno, then got on the mic and gave him, quote, advice not to drop. Such a weird night. It was so weird hearing it and hearing Judge retelling of it just made it like so much worse. I mean, in the moment, I was just like, the moment I was kind of just upset.

I don't know Bruno Silva, but I felt bad for the man. And now I'm just like, oh. It was why. Double down. What an emotional room poster. I'm sure you did. What an emotional ride that was because there were the eye pokes and you're just like, okay, it's getting out of hand, take a point.

But you know what? Cheat your ass off. I fully believe in that. Just keep on cheating. They ain't going to call it. Look at Joaquin Buckley. I mean, one of the most blatant fence grabs you'll ever see in the first round against Vicente Luque and Mr.

Nonsense himself. Keith Peterson was like, eh, I'm not even going to say a word about it. And then we're sitting there like, talking in the Slack channel about how this fight is going. And then Bruno Silva falls to the canvas and Wyman gets the finish and the place erupts. And we're like, all right, good for you, Chris.

Like you finally got it done. And that Bruno was complaining about the eye. He's fucking pissed. And then they showed the replays. I'm just like, oh, no. Two of them. Double stabbing. I was like, oh, at first I was like, this has to be an older replay.

You got to get them in your both eyes. That's what I thought too. I thought that too. I thought it was there were multiple. There was multiple times. production truck put up the wrong replay for the caller guys to react to. They're like, here's the big shot that cut her open. And they would show a replay of like a punch completely missing the fighter.

It happens so many times tonight. So I'm like, oh, that must have been an old one. And then Bruno keeps charging in. And then you see another one. And then you see him fall in that. I'm like, oh, Jesus, there's two of them back to back. This is crazy. They kept coming when he was running in too, which I feel like no one's like,

oh, he's flopping around. Yes, because he charged headlong into a stabbing poke. He didn't get punched at the end of a punch, like the finger. He moved his head into a stab. And that was like that were really bothered me because, you know, there are eye pokes that are truly accidental and they're a reckless kind of eye pokes. And everything at Whiteman did was those whole like, get away from me, you know, which are the worst. The first one was the first one I think was the thumb to the eye, which like was a little less bad.

And also that he didn't fall to the ground on that one because he just kind of caught a grazing thumb during a collision, which happens. Still super, not legal, but it happens. The other ones were like, here's my, here are my fingers as you run onto them. Like, I don't know what we're talking about guys. And am I wrong in the double eye poke where they both eyepoked each other? Brutu Silva, it wasn't an eye poke. That was a, that was a closed fist. I mean, that's what it looked like to me.

It was a close fist thumb that hit him in the eye. Yeah, it was a thumb. But it was with the close fish. You're right after seeing replay. If it's a close fit. I don't even how you call that. Yeah. So is there no instant replay?

I'm sorry. They're using. Oh, they're using. Oh, they're using. Oh, okay. That's even worse. Sorry. Gary Copeland kept going.

Gary Copeland kept going to the side during these stoppages and being like, hey, because before he took the point, he went and got replay confirmed like, like, hey, look, look at that. Is that an eye poke or a groin kick or whatever it was? I think it was, it was as I think it was. Um, they were. using it. What a weird night.

I mean, at this point, gentlemen, if you're Chris Wyman, like, you can't go back now. You just have to go full board at this. I mean, you now have to own it. You have to double down. There's no turning back now. I do respect, I respect that part of the game, you know, once you're there, you know, that's what war is. When you win it, you win it.

That's true. If it's a lie, we fight on that lie. Honestly, in all the years, I know we have a lot of super chats, but in all the years we've been watching this dumb sport, have you ever seen someone say that? Like, they, they get the win. Legitimate first time. Okay, you get the win and go, is your fault?

Is your thought that you reacted? Admitted it. I did it. Yeah, I definitely poked him in the eye. He screwed up. Okay. Bold. This is a little word.

Bold. Oh, man. I've got a Shriver chat that's going to come in that I saw, and I'm excited for it because it's insane. I'm just going to jump to this one, too, because we're talking about it. Yeah. Also, no notes. Derek Copeland looks like an older Dennis Seber, but on even more. That is pretty good.

That's pretty good. Okay. Super chatters are just not fire. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Here we go.

I got a super chat from Luke. Luke. Does Manon's performance tonight vindicate Rose a little bit? Rose hasn't looked great recently, but she was much more competitive, even with an injury. This is a great question. Your thoughts on this, Jose. Do you feel like a little bit of vindication for? I don't know.

Because fights are different because I don't. like to play MMA math because, you know, some people just have off nights. Sometimes you just don't like Vicente Lucke. If he fights walking Buckley 10 times, maybe he wins nine. He just lost today. I don't know. I have no idea because, like, Benile Darius cooked up Gamrodot, and then Gamrodot beat Armin, and then Armin melted Benile Darius.

It just doesn't work. M.M.A. Math just does not work like that. Rose also didn't look exceptionally great against Amanda Hebas either. Like, that was a five-round. fight. Maybe she just wasn't used to fly away yet. But I do remember after that France fight, Manon Rose, the general consensus was Manon was just bigger. Like, she might not have been the better martial artist, but she was just physically bigger and controlled Rose that entire fight. So I don't, I don't know. I don't put much stake in stocking one.

Rose was more competitive, right? Sure. I mean, it's also three rounds, right? Yeah. Yeah. Stiles make fights. Also, Jose, if you're looking for MMA math, don't forget that Bruno Silva knocked out Brad Tavares and Brad Tavara's dummy Chris Widman and then Chris Wideman just dominated Bruno Silver. I mean, Bruno Silva versus Alex Pereira was way more competitive than Alex Breyer versus Yuri Prahasa.

Does that be Bruno Silva's going to go up there and just knock out of Yer Prasca? Yeah. Yeah, like what are we talking about here? It's a bad question. Great point. It's a bad question. Styles make fights and roses and style is much more effective against men on than Aaron. This is what we learned tonight.

I like the question, Luke. It was a good one. Different way of thinking of this. Yeah. Just in all the weirdness tonight, this could have been the weirdest thing of the night, but it's not. MVP of the night, Jacob Malcoun's hip. Yeah. Weird.

Two things I've never seen happen in a fight before happened tonight. And I didn't leave this card being like, this was amazing, despite seeing things I've never seen before. You're right. I like the super chat. Patrick, what is a Haas asking for a Midwestern friend? If you're from the Midwest, you should know what a Haas is. Say, you're in the Midwest. I feel like you definitely know what a Haas is.

Google the name Stan Hansen, and that's what a Haas is. Oh, that's a great. Oh, there you go. That is true. That is true. Very good. Super chat here. Pro rassal and talk.

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But first, there, the last one. Enjoy a Coca-Cola for a pause that refreshes. Michael, man, it could be the female RDA in fighting two divisions. That's a sentence. those are words good she could go to 135

I mean she wouldn't she might get a title fight at Bantam weight she might get a title fight at Bannam weight where she gets on a private way I mean just straight up right now who would you pick Manon or Misha Tate I'm pretty easily taking Mannon

Mish Tate's like a top 10 Bantam weight so sure I don't know maybe I'd like to see her stand next to a Bantamweight Thank you much. Super chat from Stephen Delson. Stephen,

with how credit 170 is, do you think Buckley legitimately could be a champion? What are you guys Easter plans? I hope you all have a happy Easter. Thank you. Where did you rate walking Buckley's chances to be Walterweight champion, Jose?

I know it's early and you don't like to play the hypothetical game that much, but did you leave tonight? I think you probably left tonight being like, all right, The dude's like he's pretty good welterweight. But did you leave here being like, dude, this guy, this guy could be a champ. I think he's going to be like the Jeff.

He's going to be like a Jeff Neal in this division. Like he's going to be a guy. Like you throw, he's going to, he's always going to be an exciting fight. He'll knock out a lot of guys, but he's just never going to get past the wonder boys or the Ian Gare's. You know, the guy that just is a really high level striker that could just keep, avoid the power. I think he's going to be like a. or even like Vicente Lucay was similar to that too. Like every time he fought those long-ranging guys,

he just never get third or Bilal will just take him down to control him. I don't think he's going to be guys like, like Jack DeLam, Delam Atlanta could be a future champion. I don't think he beats Jack. I don't think he's going to beat Sean Brady. I don't think he's going to be In Gary. I don't think he's going to beat MVP. But I would like to see Walking Buckley rematch Kevin Holland at Welterweight

because the first time they fought was in middleweight. So I think it could be like somewhere in the 15 to 8 range. But once he gets into those high-level. level striker and grapplers. I don't think, like, with that power, he could turn anyone off. That dude hits really hard. I just don't see him. I think Schofcott will be a champion.

I don't think he's ever going to be Schofcott. So if that's the benchmark, then my chances are low, but with dynamite like that, you never know. He also is very popular on the internet, so he could just, like, will himself into a title shot. Mike, are you guys Are you doing onto the next tomorrow? Yes. Okay.

I was going to ask you about your prediction coming into the fight if Buckley wins. Oh, dude. It remains. It remains. He ain't getting an MVP or anybody like that. He's going to get a murderer next.

That is not a big name. It's going to get a Michael Morales or we're not 14. Why would they not? What if they, because Vicente Lucille was supposed to fight Sean Brady. What if they just give Walking Buckley Sean Brady? They could do that.

They could do that. You know, just fight the guy that he filled in for because Vicente Lucca is probably, what, 11 or 10 in the U.S. who's ranking? I know Sean Brady is like 7 or 8. Yep, man. I wouldn't hate it, especially on a Vegas card. But when you...

I mean, maybe... And maybe I put too much stock into the call-out. But when you say... I'll fight anybody, the UFC will be like, all right, bet, you fight anybody. They will do that. Like, it's just the way that it is, unless things work out. Buckley, to me, is going to be one of those guys, much like his long-time teammate, Jamal Hill, where it's going to be like, I think he's going to get some good wins,

and I think he's going to get put in some good positions. But I also feel like for a while, we're still going to wonder, like, how good he actually is. It's just going to be one of those, like, weird trajectories where he'll have a great performance are like all right if he fights this dude like we'll get all the answers and then he somehow like luck finds a way where he gets to skip over that person and he gets a huge fight and wins and like something weird happens you know what i mean like i whatever buckley does next i want to feel like i'll have a bit of more confidence in like where this guy is because i think he's good like he impressed me but i'm still just i just don't know how good he is i don't look at him like

a Shafcott where you like you saw Shafka fight the first time you're like holy shit this dude is the guy and then Shafka gets like another couple wins you're just like yep solidifies it and while Buckley stock has risen for me I still this is a hard question for me to answer if that makes sense

I just don't know I hate saying it I hate I hate saying this but like this is one of those wins where I go Luke just look bad I don't like saying it because I don't want to take anything away from Buckley but because Buckley impressed me but also Lucke was like I can't agree

what he just yeah he hates saying it he's got a lot of a lot of wear and tear so yeah got them he got them knocked out by Jeff Neal and then Ballal controlled him right those like his last two losses so he lost three or four so

I mean we've seen we've seen we've seen Lukey in wars and that was not a war tonight no yeah so that's I think that's just kind of shocked us You know, it's like, oh, that is not the same, same fighter, which is a bummer, you know, for him. But, yeah, I agree with you, Mike. I just don't know where Bucket – obviously, Buckety is good and better than I think we all – maybe – sorry, better than I thought.

But I don't know if he's there, there yet. Thank you much. I'd be very surprised if you became champion. And then real quick – Would you be surprised if he breaks top five? Like, he's a number one contend. Yeah, I'd be very surprised. I would be shocked, but I'd be surprised.

You have to consistently win fights to get there And I think he's just a dude who's going to fall at some point Because that's I just think he's really good I just think like the top well top of the weltoe is Like it's never been more competitive I think And I just don't I don't I don't group walking buckling in that in that category yet Like Leon's great

Shafkat's great You could if you want to include Homs out of Weltsway fine Like Ian Gary's Gary and Gary's really good. Malal should be fighting there. Like MVP you could throw in there. Like all these guys I would favor.

Like MVP is like a top six welterweight right now. And he's not ranking. Yeah. Yeah. He's very, it's a very tough division to gain ground on in terms of rank. Yeah, 100%. Very very difficult.

Yeah. And you know the way you gain ground by cheating and by skipping the line by just getting a big fight? And you're never going to do that if you call it Anheiser book. He called out a camera here. Dumber. shit. Who do you want to fight in a can a beer? It's just like, what do you do?

MVP, I got my passport. I'm coming to, coming to the UK. I don't understand. That was what you should. I mean, I under, he's from St. Louis, right? So I understand him wanting to fight there.

Yeah. I give him a pass on the wanting to fight at home. No, that's fine, but you got to pick someone. It's like, I just, it's not hard. You never have to reinvent the wheel and how everyone didn't watch Sean O'Malley go from 15 to 1 by fighting Peoria on because he called for it and was popular and got it like I should do the same I should also just try and get find a guy who

maybe I can make this happen and I will leap up the rankings and suddenly I'm in there it's just it's not hard to have any amount of care about your own goddamn career agreed hey um happy easter whoever that was. Yes. Weidenhoff, Happy Jed is back. Do you guys think Aaron is a one-trick pony at 125? I think she would have more success at 115.

She could make 115. I suspect she'd do great. Yeah. I mean, she's not tall as bad at flyweight. Yeah. She's still only 24. Her game is going to evolve.

Also, guys, she's 24. I don't know if you know this. If you're at worst, the third best woman in this weight class. And I would per se probably very likely better than that. So losing to her is not like some badge of shame. It's a weird thing. Yeah.

It's like, what a fraud. She's only the fourth best 120. What a fraud. That 24 year old lost to the one of the three best women in the world. Yeah. Nice. I hope that's not what's happening right now. Pleasure Man, it was a pleasure man from J. Fish.

They might not kill him. They might not cut him. If you get fired of the night, I don't know how you get cut off a fight of the night. I don't think they cut us. I don't think they do. Jen, you and I preach this all the time. And I say this is one of the reasons why I have middleweight as high as I do. middleweight has a ton of get or get got all stars and pleasure man is a get or get got

all star if there ever was one and i mean he's everybody everybody got i don't know if he's a yeah he's just a get got but i understand what you're saying still there's value to mike there's two and bruno silver mike that's been my longstanding belief that fighters you need to have guys in the roster who who die well and buddy he dies well He's 0 and 4, correct, in the UFC? That is accurate. He's 0 and 4 and we're talking about him. Like, we're really talking about him.

And I, that's so he's going to be around. He's interesting. He's interesting in Dyesville. That's all you need, man. I keep around forever. Just get the best. Oh, man, like big tuna. Oh, the biggest flop of all time.

Belcher screwed that up. Big Tuna got knocked out last night, too. Elephant, which I hurt my soul. Oh, sign him, UFC. That's a shame. All right. I mean, like, he loses to Jailton, Vitor Petrino is about

to find Anthony Smith, Tyson Pedro, on the road, and Ibo Eslan. He's already got a win over Ebo, too. That's why Trilogy, let's go. Medi back. Lucaine never wanted to be there. Tweets like Shaheen saying that Buckley is a problem at Walthwaite are completely insane. Wow. But he also said if I remember

Shaheen's tweet, I believe he said he might be a problem. He didn't come out and say he's a problem. So I mean, there's just a caveat that he might just be. It's not if it could not confirm. I don't know any Waltwyth is going to sign up to get punched by him, but I think a lot of Waltoy will beat him. I don't think he's ever going to be a champion where I said that. And though Luke A never wanted to be there. He didn't want to be there because of the man across the cage from him. You know, so let's give Buckley some credit, you know, talking to, talking to this

comment. So, all right. Did you another, another I poke super chat? So didn't Buckley, I mean, not Buckley. Didn't look like him was to retire recently? This is the chat. Oh, my God. Do you want to retire?

No, no, look. Didn't Lukey want to retire? Didn't he have some like blood disease or injury or something like that? well that sounds vaguely familiar let me see I'm pretty sure he was out for a while and was something like

he's up for a year after the kneel fight um it sounds vague brain injury yeah that's right he had a brain injury so yeah oh brain bleed yeah and then he just fought

that's what it was brain bleed that's what it was yep yeah 100% I mean that's though that guy in there with the guy that hits like a match yeah anyway

don't don't flop around like an idiot. It's your fault. If you have a brain bleed. Why is your brain breed him? Just throw some dirt on it. And then you. It's the best bet.

I just, I read the first six words of, I read the first six words that I'm already giggling. I get a bite is way more intentional, but it's wild that you can get cut for a bite, but a TKO turned UD for four pokes, hard night for us. Dude, I'm going to give you a pass because it's 2.30 in the morning. I'm just going to assume you're on the East Coast because if not, this is tough.

When you start your sentence by downplaying a biting human, you've gone too far. You're just, you're through the looking glass. I get it. Everyone agrees biting is bad, but it's just a nuts way to position this. Hey, I get the gentleman. I would I rather take a little bite and have it like, oh, that's a bite, then get four eye pokes from Chris Wideman. I'm just saying. Hey, someone put a poll in the chat.

Would you rather get stabbed in the eye or bit in the arm? Put in the chat right now. Okay. Who's going to do it? Okay. I'm going to tweet it. I'm going to tweet it. I don't want to.

Put a poll. Yeah. You'd rather get stabbed in the arm. in the eye four times or bit really hard in the bicep. I just,

this is just brilliant framing, too. I'm not going to write, I'm not writing hashtag UFC Atlantic City. I'm just writing that. Is this? Are you tweeting? You're tweeting this?

I'm tweeting it out. I'm tweeting it out. This is the best chat we've ever gotten on this site. Or get fit. These trash cards have the best comments. This is the best. I legitimately see this is the best.

Hope. Just the best chat we've ever had. Poked. Bits. Start four times. I get it. I can't wait to read the results in this poll. I get it.

It's off to an early lead. Is it, though? Bits already off to an early lead. 91% for the, the bit for the getting the bit. This is an M. It makes a lot of sense. Would you get a knife tattooed on your eyeball like that guy?

I want a thousand boats on this. I want a thousand boats. I was telling you guys, when I saw this, that's why I was so excited about it coming up because the first ferns are I get it, a bite is back. I get it. I get it. This is incredible. This is the whole thing chat.

Yeah. This is going in a frame. This should go on Ariel's office. This should go in Ariel's office. It's so good. I get it. I understand, but. We had to choose if you have to pick.

Thus far. You're not wrong. You're just not right. Ethan just just incredible bite bite 88% thus far

and it's it flirt between 87 and 88 over and over it I have to look at there wanting to get bit well if you have to choose

they don't want to get bit but you're making a choice you got it one or the other or option C head butt someone's hip bone really hard get concussed about hip bone I forgot people forgot all about that yeah

how weird of the night that we just forgot that happened I forgot about the hip that the hip from hell what else was there was there's incredibly weird on this card that we just

completely forgot about oh the other I poke there was two the other I poke victory yeah but that that's all another that's a bag that's a yeah this is just an incredible

incredible two weeks of weird content happening. So much. Yeah. All right. Thank you much. May he does A plus. Incredible. Fahim, at 7 a.m.

in London, can't decide which one was worse today. Main event are upcoming cemento made event. Golly, man. Well, one had rank fighters. Yeah. Go on. Sorry, Jed. The main event is not that bad.

It was boring because it was. It was the exact same thing for 25 minutes. Yeah. But you were still watching two of the five best women in the world in their weight compete. And be competitive. Blanchfield got 50, 45, but like she was competing in there. She landed some punches. It's not like she was ever in virtue of getting finished.

This would have gone over a lot better if it didn't happen at 2 in the morning. And it didn't happen after the energy had been sucked out of at least my particular viewing experience because everything got real weird. So this was fine. I think this is just, it was just a men off your fight, you know, just how these go. I guess that's what, yeah, it was either going to be Aaron Blancho fight or a man of a feuro fight and that's what we got. We got the other one.

All right. Thank you. The not sentiment is bad. I already talked about it from the people speak quick go. It's so terrible. If you're in St. Louis, don't even fucking buy a ticket. Like, that's how you demand it or you force the UFC to put, rebellious to Spain in the main event against Derek Lewis instead, then we're okay with that.

Power structure. I bet Wyman wins in round three plus 3,300. Did he win in round three? It'll depend on your book, but usually yes. Oh, because it goes by the hand race, whatever they call on the hand race. Most books have it written that because the fight did end in the third round, but for the tech decision, that, that, will count as a winning in round three but check check your book they'll have some rules up somewhere right but if he if he had been usually that wideman yeah if he had bet wyman k o k o round three he wouldn't

have won that that would not win correct oh so that's gone okay specifics are bad round three potentially good round three should pay out but some books are different some books just void bets in situations like this. So check with your book, but it should pay out. All right. Thank you much. I got two more super chats. Excellent.

Max, Chitty took a cannon air route and also became unfun. I told, look, somehow Chidi became close to a middleweighty middleweight down the strategy. I think Albert Dariah and put him there. Man needed to win. Yeah. You can't go. You can't lose four in a row. Unless your paycheck, man.

I mean, he almost didn't get the win, which is to a year. Four in a row at age 35, you're a cut. What a shitty scorecard. That was awful. Really bad. All right. Oh, guys. That's super chat just came in.

I can't believe no one is asking about Nate the train. Luke, Jose. Why do you purposely pronounce Caitlin Serminara, nay, Chukagin's name wrong, The absolute disrespect. How do I pronounce it wrong? Have you? Didn't pronounce you?

I didn't notice that you were doing that. I didn't know. I couldn't remember her last name. Is that what they're talking about? Is the first name? Also, I don't think Luke Prejia has ever thought about Calum's seminar before. I think he's just annoyed to me

for saying his last question was bad. I don't know. Again, he's just looking at these people just want to attack. Maybe he's watched Fight Valley and he's a big fan. of Caitlin Seminar on H. Kagan. Is it Callan or Caitlin? Because I've heard both.

Oh, actually, I have, it could be first name. Oh, maybe that's what we're talking about. I have no first. I got no idea how to pronounce that name. Is it Callan or Caitlin? Is it Meagan or Megan? I don't know.

I think it's me. I heard, I heard Manon's name pronounced eight different ways tonight. So. I refuse to call her fewer. It's just don't, don't put extra letters on it if they're not there.

You can't have two silent letters on your name. It's not. It's not real. It's fake. French. Come on. All right. Thank you very much.

K.O.3,000, Felick, a glorified apex card. Oh, the irony. Yeah. I mean. It was. This was on the preview show. This is what every,

this card is what every apex card should strive to be. This is why I understand that everyone hates the apex and I just really could give a shit if fights are at the apex or not. because for every bad apex card, sometimes you get a bad fight card in front of people. Like I don't, sometimes the crowd just does not matter. Now,

if you want to talk about size of the Oxygen, I think that's a much bigger difference than our fans there. I know it's sterile to watch, but I just do not care about that. This fight had a big Oxagon and a good crowd, and this fight card was bad. I wonder just being so late just hurt, well, the main event,

being so repetitive, and just being maybe but like the last MSG card ended at like three in the morning and that fight card ruled yeah that's New York is MSG I mean the car just not weird New Jersey is garbage

The car got weird what did you have to root for if you were like there watching it and they still tried well I think they actually know what this fight card was great because the longer it lasted the less the crowd had to be outside

in Atlantic City so they did themselves a favor 14th I avoid it all day stepped over the needles. The only reason I hate apex cards is because they're all bad. If they were not bad, I wouldn't hate them. Then you, I would prefer or not, but I truly don't care. This was a glorified apex card, except for, based on the fight,

I doubt too much would have changed, honestly. But it certainly didn't do Aaron Blanchfield any favors that Monarch could just run around the giant cage and never get cornered. that if this was in the apex she should have had a better chance i think i feel confident nothing would have changed based on how clear cut it was but uh yeah fero just had all the room in the world in the not apex gauge yep yep and you know what i didn't take that into account honestly i forgot i kind of forgot about that and um it i just think it had been more competitive but yeah definitely she took advantage of it.

We're stopping the poll in like three minutes, so get your votes in. Maybe back. It's even funnier that the Wyatman I poke would have been an early stoppage if it was legal. Gary Copeland was having a field day out there tonight. Yeah. He wasn't good. He started strong and just couldn't keep that energy up. Yeah, he drank his own Kool-Aid.

Also, he worked like eight fights tonight. It was like just him. Chowlero Huberra worked like two fights, but him and Keith Peterson were just swapping. What was going on? Jersey. Shout out to Shaolin. Hell yeah. Yes.

Yeah. Y'all don't know. I guarantee none of the people in the chat have any idea who we talk about it? According to 29 votes total, 89% of the people would rather get in the bids. have once and stabbed in the eye four times. Well, I mean, that's pretty... You look at our poll. Pretty similar.

85% prefer the bites over the eye poke here on our show. And our last super chat and, oh, no, we just got one case. Just no, one didn't come in. Sorry. Last super chat. Can you read me a bedtime story? I'm tired. No.

No. No. Once upon a time, Aaron Blanchield learned. how to throw a combination and connect. It's a fan of your story, if you haven't noticed. The end. Good night. There you have it.

One day. Hope you. One day. Hope you have a glass of warm milk as you heard that incredible story. Anything else? If you were tired, just fire up the main event and lay in bed with it on. You're going to be doing great. you could go watch jars in your Rosenstrike versus

who the hell of the fight dude you just do the Chitty McKee fight too that'll put you down that's not a bad one reason oh a non super chat question because we didn't talk about this at all if you if you didn't even put that up Casey and you said I want to put this up I would have guessed the first guess

that it was Joseph asking this exact question should verna who has won four of her last five after tonight get a title shot nobody has driven this train this week more than joseph boza that this fight could could have title implications but verna gets the win well deserved i will say i made one bet tonight and it was on van der roba because i didn't understand why she was as big of an underdog as she was and it paid out nicely so should she get a title shot hosea yi yi yon? Youngs. Would you give her a title for it right now? It's weird because Tatanasauri should be fighting for the title. Like that should be a no-brainer, but she got hurt. And I think I'm basing this off because I think Waley will win. I think Waili will beat Janjohn at U.S.C. 300. And Waley takes huge gaps between fights.

Like she fights maybe once at most, at most twice a year, and there's still like 10 months in between. So for all we know, by the time, Waley, if Waley wins and then is ready to go again, Tatiana could be ready by them. I'm just basing this off of past knowledge. By that case, I do think Tataiana should get the title shot. But if Waley wants a quick turnaround,

or if Janjonan wins and then Whaley wants time off or whatever, regardless, like, by default, she might just have to get it. Because, like, Marina's fighting Jessica Andrade, but Werner's already beat Marina. And Jessica Gondra is, I guess Jessica Gondar is popular, but they might want. want to do the rematch against way lee just because the first time they fought just gendrude went to china to fight wayley they might just do her a favor so i don't know for all i

know they they could just do vina and rod vernon and and and and rod if if undrod wins all right availability is your best friend is what i agreed availability is the best ability yep she should get a title fight honestly but i don't mind i'm i've been on the gender jendra bandwagon train for a bit I think she low-key, I tweeted that she low-key has some of my favorite tattoos in M. All right. Dude, I mean, be interesting. I think, I don't think that fight goes very well for her. No, it's true.

Nah. Yeah. Or, I mean, I mean, Waley's Wailey. Oh, I mean, yeah, Waley's way Lee. I mean. But, hey, that's why they're older, though. Yeah. Dude, the show.

is in trouble. It is in dire straits right now. I think we have one more super chat. We can put that up real quick. Oh, we're going to go. Oh, no, one just came out. You're right. One just came in.

I'm monitoring this incredible poll. Thank you, Connor. Hoping for a better back half of 2024. This year has been a tough hang for the UFC. Any thoughts on a better third or fourth quarter? We're not even on the second quarter yet. What about quarter to? With 300.

That's a pretty good one. We're officially in the second quarter now. Today is March 31st. So this is the last event of the first quarter. So we're starting the second quarter off with a banger. Hey, we got middle-ates, baby. Middle-ates back in the main event spot. Look, 297 was horrendous.

Like, that was a bad pay-per-view with a good main event. 297 was-27. That was a rough. that was a rough heart that was a very rough UFC was it 305 is that the one that's in Perth

yeah 3.05 Steve Urseg in the main event and Gazeve tied to Evas in the co-main event sign me up for that paper view on Ersegg's in the

main no not in this world not in this world not in this world maybe we're going to use too many champions before again stick tom and leon in manchester

Connor's fighting Michael Chandler in June Islam's fighting in Pori in June only thing you got left Steve Ers saying from Perth headlining I mean he's already headlining 301 man's a bona fide star yeah yeah

this year has not been as good as people wanted it to be the highs have been exceptional what's it's because they load remember like it happened It's because 299 and 300 were so stacked. Remember UFC 205? They had like DJ fought Tim L.A. on a tough finale.

And then UFC 205 had all those title fights on it and all those stacked fighters. And then USC 206, that's literally great in the interim title for Anthony Peders and Max Holloway to fight. And then USC 207, you had the two Bannamweight fights, title fights. And they just use all of their title fights in like a one month span. And then they canceled the January pay-per-view because they didn't have a chance. being the headline. Yeah, and then they created a new belt for 208. That's right.

That was fun. That's right. Casey Goodpole. His name is Vincenzo Orseg. Thank you very much. That's right. All right, we've been to the poll. There it is.

Would you rather get poked in the eye four times or get bit in the arm once? Bit 87%. Someone, 12% of you would rather be pulled. poked in the eye four times than get bit. I don't want to be bit. I'm not food. Who's biting me? Who is biting me?

Apparently it's Igor, Igor Sepherino. I'm not, I don't want to get bit by anyone named Igor. Yeah. That sounds like a recipe for disaster. A fighter named Chris probably doesn't have, probably has weak wrists.

am I wrong Mike you played golf with him that's true yeah Chris Chris can hit a golf all pretty well dude but can he stab real real well I mean it looked like he could stab real loud you know what you know what

Jed Mike this has absolutely nothing to do with anything we were talking about and I don't know why it popped in my mind because I just remember Chris Wyman lives in South Carolina too do ubers just not exist in that part of the world? Because I was down there last weekend. I called an Uber from the Savannah Airport. And it took 34 minutes.

Because seven of them got to them. It's very tough. They're like six people out there. What a world, man. What I've learned. I didn't see much ad to get you. I would have shit to do. I don't think either of you people wanted to drive to

Buford, South Carolina, which is another hour. My job would not have cared. He doesn't do anything. He's retired. I'm like, hey, he's a ride. I'd be like, all right, cool. Beaufort was pleasant, I guess.

What you do is you go to the cab stand. It's the same. See, here's the thing. Most of the time it's cheaper. Oh, it's not cheaper. With cabstanders. Oh, no. If you, if you, they're very nice.

If you talk to them, I had somebody who, so there were two of us going, there are two of us going to the same city from Savannah. Yeah, two of us were going with the same city. The woman charged the guy I was with who got dropped up first, $20 more than me because I was very nice to her. And she goes, why don't just, you know what, just tell me how many miles it is from your house to the airport.

And I just mapped it out. I was like, it's 18 miles. She goes, I'm just going to charge you for 18 miles. So the guy before me got dropped up paid like $78. I paid $35. for the ride. The world. It was beautiful.

There was also. Just got to chat them up. There was also, and this might shock you guys. And I counted them. 16 golf bags on my flight. Three bachelor parties and two bachelor parties, all going to Savannah, South Carolina. And I said, this is my night. And I said to myself, this is my nightmare when I sat on that point.

Dude, Savannah's a good time. Savannah George is a great time. Beaufort's not a great. It's fine, but. It was fun for a wedding. Yeah. So then is a beautiful place. There are parts of Beaufort that are nice.

Hilton Head's a good time. But that's a conversation for another time. We can hit the music. What other time are we going to have that conversation? I worked in Hillman for some, Mike. To do the next review show for Beautiful. The Beaufort took it next to me. The Beaufort boys.

I'll tell you about it. It's not that far off from them doing a UFC like Charleston or whatever, you know. They should just do it in Savannah. There's an arena there. Go to N-market. Let's go. They were doing like an LFA or some shit there and just saw this the other day. Like a Titan FC?

I don't know what's happening. Savannah's popping off. At N-market? Mazel did a couple of shows in Stam. Not at N-market. That's true. Mike Hacks golfing. There's where all the Super Chat money is going to Mike Hacks golfing.

Is Mike Hack a better golfer than Jed is gambler? I'm not having a great year, so I would say currently, sure. I did win this week, which is great. I'm almost up. I should watch swing rounds over No Bet's Bards so I can get actual knowledge. You can't watch No Bet's Bards, so you should definitely watch Swing Rounds. I can if I put on that weird. Windows 95

Screensaver That means to make tapes to the sounds I played pretty D's in that day In the back night I actually played better than I did on the front nine So it's really Honestly

That Mike did too That actually played pretty well as well I played with my son yesterday And a really nice chorus And I played I played really well It was a good day It was a good day

You hit the music Oh Speaking of swing rounds, Mike. Oh, what else? No. So, yeah. So, yeah. Sorry.

Yeah. A Nate Landware swing rounds would not be your typical swing rounds. There would be no golf carts involved. We would play speed golf. Dude. Where we were driving. I saw that. I was like, I'm down.

I will pick up. I will get my cardio to the level as it needs to be to run of a camera. Sprint after him. I am so down. A drone falling. I think that's the only way. Get a camera on a nice gimbal. Get a nice smooth.

shot. That's the only way we could do this with Nate Landmarie. So Nate, let me know. We'll make it happen. Forces in Tennessee, you got that elevation too. So you really got to get cardio in, Casey. Oh, God. Oh, before we leave, big shout out to my teammates.

They won tonight. Sammy Casares, David Rojas, winning the 135-pound championship belt for up next and announcing he is going pro. And my teammate, Min Jung, who won his amateur debut tonight with a three-round dominant decision using that wrestling. So congratulations, guys. Very proud of you and very proud to be your teammates. Nice.

Who won the main event? Do you know? Did Johnny Vasquez win the main event? Oh, yes, he did. He beat the, what's his name? the guy that was on tough the guy he was on tough

what's his name there have been 34 seasons of the recent one of tough he didn't win he did win he did Junie Browning you'd be Junie Browning yeah Junie Browning is it was not there

he was tough okay that really narrows it down he was just like he was on Connors he was in Connorses he's great I've seen two fights of this he's awesome yeah dude considering where he was a year ago he's the guy

on the wrong end of like the worst refereeing in the history of the sport and he is still somehow with his arm not fully healed by the way not even close actually still dealing with Texas and still winning belts

yeah Trevor Wells he beat Trevor Wells tonight in a dominant decision yeah so yeah live so you guys it's 3 a a.m. You need to leave

it's 3 a.m. I got to go to sleep so I can wake up and watch the red so. Wait, no more poles? No more polls. We're good. Close the pole. Would you rather? Leave.

Would you rather? I have to golf tomorrow in celebration of Jesus' comeback. So I need to go. Isn't it fun? Isn't it fun? All right. Well, you can't believe we can't even. It's on that card.

Yes. AK and I do it in some matchmaking tomorrow. Don't forget, guys. Tuesday, 8 p.m. Eastern. UFC 200 rewatch party. Jose will be there. He was at UFC 200. He was at that crazy.

We discussed this. Did we not? Nope. You replied saying I was there. Al-Alvon. So did like five other people. And then I was, all right, I guess I'm doing it. Let's do it.

Well, Shaheen, Damon. They were also there. All right, yeah. The amount of people who like reply to shit and say, like, I'm going to do it. And then we're like, oh, really? wing it. When I'm like, you guys ready to come on?

I was at USC 200 and then no one responded to me. So I said, all right, they don't need me to do it. I think I gave you like a fire emoji or something. I don't know. Oh, we'll see. All right, cool. Good though. I guess you don't know who the fuck's going to show up and that's what makes a fun.

Which fight do I get to watch? Which fight am I watching? You pick, Jose. All right. Good night. Everybody. You're listening to the Vox Media Podcast Network.