MMA Fighting - UFC Kansas City Post-Fight Show | Reaction To Ian Machado Garry Surviving Late Rally, Anthony Smith's Final Fight

Episode Date: April 27, 2025

Ian Machado Garry looked like he was cruising to a flawless victory in the UFC Kansas City main event through nearly 18 minutes, but Carlos Prates turned things around in a big way — nearly finishing Garry in the fifth. In the end, Garry gets back in the win column, and is now the backup fighter for the welterweight title fight at UFC 315. Following Saturday's Fight Night event, MMA Fighting's Mike Heck and Jed Meshew react to Garry's victory, being named the backup fighter by Dana White, and Prates' stock following his first promotional loss. Additionally, they discuss Anthony Smith's first-round stoppage loss in his final fight against Zhang Mingyang in the co-main event, Randy Brown's Knockout of the Year contender, and other notable moments from the UFC's return to Kansas City. Follow Mike Heck: @mikeheck_jr Follow Jed Meshew: @JedKMeshew Subscribe: http://goo.gl/dYpsgH Check out our full video catalog: http://goo.gl/u8VvLi Visit our playlists: http://goo.gl/eFhsvM Like MMAF on Facebook: http://goo.gl/uhdg7Z Follow on Twitter: http://goo.gl/nOATUI Read More: http://www.mmafighting.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

You're listening to the Vox Media Podcast Network. The victory horns are live, relax, Kermit the Frog. We are live. We are here. And the victory horns they sound for, I mean, every victory horn should sound for Eddie Hall, but this particular victory horn sounds for Ian Machado, Gary, revives a late scare from Carlos Pratchez and gets the unanimous decision victory, 2-48-47s and a 49-46 takes the fight on short notice and gets another big win.

And now he says he's going to stamp the passport again. He's going to book a flight to Montreal and declared himself the backup fighter or the Walterway title fight between Bilal-Mahamahad and Jack Delamattelana at UFC 315. Although he took some damage in that fight, highly doubt that's going to happen. But hey, you're going to shoot for the stars and hope you land there. Thank you for joining us for the UFC Kansas City Post Fight Show. I am Ikek and joining me to offer his incredible takes. Mr. Jed Mishu, Mr. No Gray area himself.

How are we doing, Jed? I'm doing great, Mike. The climb is back. 16 up, baby. Woo! Terrific week. Great weekend. Eddie Hall fought Marius Pugianowski.

Wonderful things occurred. That main event was really fun. You know, not like a barn bird, but really fun. The co-main event was a little bit sad. The rest of the card was mostly good, though there were certainly some low spots. A little late, frankly, but still, good solid event in Kansas City this week, so pretty pumped to be here. Is this like a B, like a B kind of event? Overall grade?

Yeah, it's solid. I think, honestly, and this is an old man take, so I understand that. And if you're not an old man, you're watching along with us, congratulations. one day you will be right where I am. I would be, I would think more fondly on this if it wasn't one in the morning. Um, like, if this just got over at a reasonable hour or whatever,

but like the main card going to being late made like the down moments, which were few. The prelims were certainly great. The main event was good. A lot of finishes. Like the Michelle Behead of fight was awful to watch in part because it's just like, man, it's getting pretty late out there

so this would probably get like a little extra juice if this was an earlier card but still a rock solid B we built to good things the early early prelims a lot of finishes even if you know they're not names and then good fights most along most of the way around good event man I was happy to have been a part of this yeah it was it was very solid let's go right to the main event

Let's talk about what transpired. The first 15 or so minutes of this fight, it was the Ian Machado Gary show. Actually, you could probably extend that to like the first 18 minutes of this fight. Gary was fighting very intelligently. He was moving around a lot. Pratt just really couldn't get him. You could see he was a little bit frustrated, just couldn't get close. And Ian was just kind of picking him apart and taking him down a couple of times,

mixing things up. Anytime Carlos got anything going, Ian would shoot. Sometimes he would land it. Sometimes he wouldn't. and then back half for round four, Pratchez starts to get comfortable, starts busting up Ian Gary, starts to land in big shots,

hurt Ian Gary in the fourth round. And I'm sure I'll leave what happened in the fourth round to you to talk about since nobody else apparently talked about it as it went down. And then round five, Carlos Pratchez nearly gets the finish and IMA Chado Gary survived. So firstly,

talk about just the overall view. of what you learned in the fight. Secondly, how did you score it? And third, talk about that fourth round. I'll leave that one to you. Okay, so let's start with the overall view of the fight. The overall view is that fight was largely a reinforcement of stuff that I thought. For a while, it looks like it was actually going to be pretty negative for call those protests.

He sort of turned it on down the stretch and redeemed himself to some extent. and so credit to him for that a little too little too late as far as the judges went but he you know he was heading towards blank city and then pulled it out there so good for him in that regard

I still you know we talked about a lot this week on various shows he's the guy I was the least high on of the fighting nerds to win a title because I have general concerns about his game he's a little older and a lot that manifested like he is

a great hammer. He's not a bad nail, but if you are not going to be a nail, he is going to struggle a lot more. Ian Garry really frustrated him early by giving him a lot of looks, fighting really smart, a lot of movement. And protest, like, protest has looked like a killer, in part because he is, but also in part because, like, he just gets dudes against the fence and can bomb on them. And Ian Garry is like, well, I'm not going to do that. And the end result was called his protest through like six punches through the first. 12 minutes of this fight. He just didn't do almost anything early on.

Good defense in his own right. Didn't get tagged too much, but you can't win a fight by waiting for the perfect opportunity unless you can finish it. And Gary was not allowing that to happen. I also have been very high on Ian Machado, Gary, for his entire career. I know people don't like him for many reasons. I have said consistently that I believe he will compete for the belt one day, if not outright win the damn thing.

and this was a little bit of a victory lap for that stance of like, yeah, look, he is not the most impressive fighter, right? Like he is not a guy who is going to blow you away with his athleticism or predatory offense, but he's super well-rounded, very smart, has a good approach to almost every fight, and, you know, can come in and make you work for it in that sort of traditional great fighter sense. I think he is a great fighter. and I left this fight being like, yep, that's what I expected of him. Did great.

Good for him. So a confirmation of sorts as far as my broad picture. I'll start with the, I'll go to the last part. Here's the thing about round four that the commentary team just seemed to miss entirely. And I want to go back and watch it and make sure I didn't hallucinate this. I'm like really certain that the reason things changed in the last 90 seconds is protest tagged him. like in an exchange a left hand

actually buckled Ian Machado Gary's knees and that's why the rest of that round he didn't throw any offense and ran away because he was hurt and trying to recover and I don't think the commentary team saw it

and then they're like well he's actually protest is having some success Gary's running away it's like yeah he's running away because the cobwebs are there so I want to go back and make sure I'm not crazy

but I'm pretty sure that happened That's certainly what I saw happen in real time. As a result, I awarded him that round. I thought that round to score for Prattes. And here's where the chat can get mad. Hey, chat. Go do whatever you're going to do about it. I scored that fight a draw.

The official M.A fighting scorecard is 4747, because I gave Prattez round four, and I gave Prattez a 10-8 in round five. Because, one, I'll die on the hill that I am justified per the score. to give that. And so I'm not, by no means am I saying you need to score round five a 10-8. I want to be really clear on that. That is one where I think it is justified and I am allowed to do so per the scoring criteria. And so were I a judge, I would score that at 10-8. And just like from a, from two standpoints here, one, I have long maintained, though this is not like how the scoring criteria works, but I do think it makes logical sense. It's pretty stupid to score.

rounds five and rounds one the same. Those are very obviously not the same sort of things, the same amount of damage that was conferred upon opponents. And so I can, you know, there's that. And two, and this is certainly a little more tongue and cheek, if at any point in time during a fist fight, you are physically crawling away from the guy beating your ass, I think he gets an extra point. And so I feel really comfortable with the 4747 scorecard. No one will like it. I did not expect the judges to render that. I think 49-46 is not great, but it is what it is. And yeah, that's where I'm at, Mike.

Fair enough. Dana White is in Kansas City. He is speaking to the media right now. A couple notable things that we'll talk about right off the bat. One relates to this fight. Dana White said Ian Michado, Gary, is the backup for the title fight. Now, can he make weight? I think he can make weight.

He just looked like he had a broken nose. And Brandon Fitzgerald mentioned some swelling in his forearm. So it's a quick turnaround, man. That card's three weeks away. And I mean, yeah, go in there, make weight. Just continue where you're out of. It's not even three weeks away, buddy. Two weeks away.

That's two weeks. That's two Saturdays from now. Go vegan, baby. Just keep that weight down. That's a quick turnaround, particularly, again, hard fight. He cruised early, but warred a little down the stretch. If he can do it, good for him, man. Take your opportunity as they come.

Yeah. He also mentioned that just kind of confirmed all the rumored in you end up TDP Hamzat saying that the injury thing was bull crap. That fight is done, essentially. Didn't announce a date, but he said it's done. Just not having International Flight Week. No updates on Islam Ilya. no updates on John and Tom,

just kind of the same old stuff. We'll see. I'm confident. I've been telling you a million times you're going to make that fight, all that. So that's something to keep in mind. We do have bonuses. We'll get to that in a moment,

but Ian gets the backup, and that's great. Steps in, saves the day, took this fight on short notice. Was this the right call making him the backup fighter? I think it's fine, right? Like, in general, you'd, so like, there's the theory that the backup fighter conveys some special meaning. Tell Matush Kamrat that.

He's still waiting for that title shop, buddy. Like, this is not one of those. He's fighting a-decline now. That's where he's had. Correct. Correct. You know, this is not a Colby Covington backup position of, well, your next in line. Pretty clearly, Shavcott's next in line unless, of course, Jack Della wins, Islam moves up, etc., etc.,

etc but we talked about you know in the preview show i think this fight does set eingary up with a win probably not to fight for the belt next unless a lot of chips fall in his favor but it puts him right there if things like this do shake out and given that walking buckley you know who i would sort of make be the other person who makes the most sense as a backup fighter just had a fight announced against kamar oosman for coming up later this year also you know unless they had already pre-planned that. I doubt Buckley, I honestly just don't think Buckley could make $1.70 in two weeks, like, unless he had been clued into this well beforehand.

So it's perfectly fine. You just hope not to use him. If you have to, and Gary makes weight good on him, that would be a hell of a story. But I think it's fine given the circumstances, just so long as this is not, well, he weighed in, so he gets the next one because that would be obviously insane. he's going to have to fight again just do him and Sean Brady it's fine

Welterweight's getting interesting it really is Buckley puts himself in a good spot if he beats Kamara Usman I think you do Gary versus Brady I think that fight makes a ton of sense and you know we'll see how everything falls

at UFC 315 Shofcott's still there so I mean things could really change the longer Shafcott sits out the worst this could get for him so we've seen it many times you sit back, you let things happen, you let guys pick up big wins, can hurt you in the long run.

So availability is your best friend, and if Shafcott's unavailable, he could be passed over a couple of times here. So good win for Ian Gary, Carlos Pratchez in the end. His stock doesn't drop at all. Probably goes up a little bit the way he finished off that fight. So good on him. There's a great recovery. Because his stock was dropping precipitously until the last,

seven minutes of the fight. And then it was like, okay, all right, you're back. Should have done that way earlier, but you're back. He got the pride rules win in a lot of people's eyes and that sometimes will raise your stock in a big way. Any guesses on bonuses? Have you gotten to see them yet? I haven't seen the bonuses.

I am going to go ahead and absolutely stone guarantee that Randy Brown got a bonus. For Andy Brown didn't get a bonus, I would be stunned. So let's go Randy Brown for a knockout or performance bonus. Let's, you know, let's double dip. Let's say Randy Brown and Nicholas Dolby got a fight of the night bonus because that was really fun. And Nicholas Dolby deserves 50K for going out on a shield like that. And they won't give Zhang a bonus for killing the old man. Malcolm Wellmaker is obviously also getting a bonus.

Of course he is. Those are my bonuses. Pretty damn close. Randy Brown did get a bonus Fight of the Night with Nicholas Dolvin did not get a performance bonus. Wait, I'm sorry.

They didn't give Randy Brown a performance bonus? Nope, fight of the night. Okay. That's like one of the best knockouts of the year. Yeah, but this is, this is that dumb shit they did the other week where they gave it

to the worst fucking fight on the card. What are we doing? Malcolm Wallmaker gets a bonus and yes To your dismay Zhang Min Yang gets the other bonus for retiring Anthony's sick Which is good for Casey And his fantasy team

Holy cow man Nuts Look He was a massive Massive betting favor I'm not taking away the performance like, good on him. He did the thing.

Those elbows were like, real borderline to being illegal. Not that that should be like a huge factor, but like at least Coamba finished a dude with the flying knee. He killed an old man. He was a minus 500 favorite against. What the hell is going on? Wow. I forgot about the Kuomba, the knockout.

Dude, like Randy Brown and Malcolm Wellmaker are the most obvious performance bonus winners of all time. And then it's like also you can give one to Cuombo because he's flying need a dude. And that's pretty cool. What in the name of God. I mean, good on them to do fight in the night so Nicholas Dolby can get 50K because he deserved it going on a shield like that. This is the first time Nicholas Dolby has ever been stopped.

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Speaking of Min Yang Zhang, let's talk about him. More specifically, let's talk about Anthony Smith, who the whole build, the second this fight was announced, this was Anthony Smith's last dance. This is the last ride. He was going to do it in Kansas City, makes the walk. We heard Return of the Mac, all the hits, comes out, big smile on his face, some cool moments in the back with his family. And the worst case scenario happened. he just got he got cut open real quick bleeding everywhere jang got him to the ground just started annihilating him with punches and elbows and then you mentioned the finish there were some shots

that were close to the back of the head laura sanko and pa feller both screaming oh it's in the back of the head back of the head jason herzog stops the fight anthony spith is in a puddle of his own blood flips the middle finger up to a guy in a Nebraska shirt in the crowd walks towards the fence starts talking to the person there's this great shot of a guy saying like i don't know we're the hell you're talking about. I don't know if that was the guy or not. But Min Yang Zhang gets in there, gets boot out of the building, cuts a very fun promo, and Zhang gets it done. But the story is about Anthony Smith calling it a career. He gets the video package, the whole nine. Thoughts, man. It's, it's the M.A. gods rarely smile upon us. We don't

get Robbie Loller moments that often. We certainly did not get one here. Your reaction to what you saw on the final fight of Anthony Smith's career. Sorry, I touched a button on my stuff that I wasn't supposed to. It was making sure I didn't screw up my audio. I really enjoyed it from a very specific perspective, right? Because I've made no bones. Like Anthony Smith means very little to me. I respect his career.

Great effort. You know, been in the league for a long time. Good on him. What I, I think we all thought this was the most. most likely outcome. And it's definitely like a little weird how big of a deal they were making it. Not that it's bad, but just like other more accomplished fighters have gotten less fanfare than Anthony Smith.

They're out here calling him a, like, that he has a legendary career and, you know, the legend Anthony Smith is like, by almost no definition, is that a true statement. And you could just say that it's because he works with them and they're giving him a little extra. It was a little over the top for anybody who was just like, yeah, this, I don't know, you guys didn't do this much for Carlos Barzo, who's going in the Hall of Fame as a two-time champion or whatever. So, like, there's a little piece of that, but mostly the thing that I liked and the thing that I wasn't happy about is Anthony Smith himself.

Because, one, I do think this is going to be a real retirement. He seems at peace with the decision that this was not a decision made because he is losing so much or anything like that, but a decision made of wisdom. Like, yeah, I'm old, can't do this anymore. Bodies take it enough. I got a family I love. I can do other things. And two, I really just enjoyed the way he approached it all fight week. You know, he's making sure that this is not about going out on a win. This is about the journey, not the destination. I want to soak this all up. I want to enjoy my last ride here. And he looked elated during his walkout, super happy. Obviously, the fan thing at the end was weird, but I mostly think that

you just put that off to, all right, his career came to an end. He's got the adrenaline from being in a fist fight, and he looks up and some dude may or may not be shooting him the bird. And so, like, yeah, you know, reacts a little poorly or whatever in that time. But settles down, cooler heads prevail, has a nice speech at the end. Thanks, everybody. I watched a little of his appearance on the post show for the UFC on ESPN or whatever. And again, just super grateful, super happy. Not going to quote them directly because I wasn't paying that close of attention, but paraphrasing saying, I made the decision I'm just not going to be sad about this. I'm just going to be happy about what's happening about how great this experience has been. Just like a really, really mature

approach to this. And great, because we know the game, man. Most fighters don't get to be Robbie Loller. And we didn't even know if Robbie Luller would get to be Robbie Luller. It was terrific that he got that, but most fighters aren't going to get that when they go out. And so this is a good way to do it. Let Anthony Smith's retirement be a roadmap for future fighters. Hey, you're going out because father time has dictated it's probably time to go. But even if you go on a loss, it does not have to be a great sadness. You can find the value in the silver line. here. And so I have a lot of respect for it Anthony Smith, how he handled his career in general and certainly how he handled his retirement tonight. Yeah, I mean, you said it, I've said it on

multiple shows, one of the great overachievers. He's a Mount Rushmore overachiever in the sport. And dude could have been a light heavyweight champion if he was a man that lacked integrity and would have made a whole lot more money. But at the end of the day, looking himself in the mirror was more important than the millions of dollars that would have been in his bank account had he taken that DQ loss and gotten the rematch of DQ win and then gotten the rematch of John and more importantly Mike he took something from us because can you imagine the memes of Lionheart L-Y-I-N-Hart oh my god we would have had so much fun with Anthony Smith as a champion it would have been incredible yeah but congratulations Anthony Smith in a great career

although his appearance in MMA will continue on. He's obviously a great analyst. I think he's going to get a shot to call some fights for the UFC or maybe contender series or something. And I'm going to make a bold prediction, Jed. Five years from right now, we're going to look at Anthony Smith like we look at Glover Toshera as a coach. I think he's going to coach a bunch of fighters.

I was about to say, no, we're not. Glover to Cher is a champion. But as coach as a guy. Yeah, as a coach, as a guy who's going to corner, he'll be a head corner, be the guy that we listen to, hey, don't go to break. We want to hear Anthony Smith yell at this dude in the corner between rounds. I want to hear what he has to say. Like, he's going to be, I have a feeling he's going to be one of those guys moving forward because now he could focus on that. And I think with his sharp fight IQ and his analytic mind, I think he's got a lot to offer to that team out in Colorado and other teams and other fighters he could be associated with as well.

I think he's going to pull a lot of different duties in the MMA space. And happy trails to Anthony Lionheart Smith. David Onama gets a win over Giga Chikaze. Giga was ranked 12 heading into that. I've said it a lot. I don't think Giga Chikazze was a top 15 featherweight. I think that was proven when Calvin Cater beat the hell out of him. And it was just one of those things where it was just like, the guys can be a fun fighter.

If you give him space, he will kick your legs off and just beat you up. but if you get in his face, he's going to lose fights. David Onama went in there and won. It's not a fight. We're going to go back and rewatch. And now David O'Nama is going to be a top 15 featherweight. And I'll be honest, I don't think he's top 15 featherweight either. So it's no disrespect to Giga.

You're better guys in this division right now. I had David O'Nama ranked 36th heading into this fight. And I don't think he's going to get a big huge name next anyways. But hey, you went in there. Didn't KC gets the win? good on him. A boost bag made up Michelle Pereira. That's all we're going to say.

There's not much more to say. He's no, I've, I've abandoned my child. I've abandoned my boy. Michelle Paheta is no longer one of my boys. He has been excommunicated. Like in John Wick, I made the phone call. He is excommunicado. I don't know what the hell that was, but can't do it.

Can't have been hurt too much. We're out. we've got to make room for Eddie Hall who's now certainly one of my boys I mean it's probably my boy after the power bomb last year in general but Eddie Hall takes up a lot of space big big guy we need as much room on

on Jed's Island as possible and Michelle Paheda you're gone we had fun to Molador but you didn't do one backflip and you were boring your shit we're out of here man is maybe Randy Brown can can get there with more performances like that What a knockout.

It was incredible. More performances like that, sure. But like, I mean, he went to a splitty with Brian Battle like four months ago. So he's going to need to keep. He keeps this energy, not that energy. So good win for Randy. We'll see what's next. A lot of people are saying like, oh, you should fight MVP.

They're throwing big ass names his way. And so we'll be curious to see. He's got a lot of buzz right now. Icromal Scaroff, just dummies, André Muniz, gets him out of there in the first round. Matt Chanel gets a win in his comeback fight, Evan Elder, beats the newcomer Gage Young, Chris Gutierrez, gets a sputty over John Castaneda, DeMond Blackshear, beats Aletang A. Lee,

Malcolm Wellmaker, what a performance from him. Dude just does not get paid by the hour, barely gets paid by the minute, just goes in there and lands a shot and wins. He fights quick and explosive, and his fights never lasts long. Malcolm Wellmaker are now 9-0, 30 years old, kind of the times now to make a move.

I know. That's the issue. Like coming off contenders series is like I loved that kid. And it's just like doesn't matter. You can't have a real career. You're 30 at Bannonweight. Like that was one of the big knocks out on Carlos process coming off contingency is like 29 or 30 or whatever at the time.

Just like, okay, at Welterweight you can have a little more success with that. But this is still, this is not light heavyweight, right? This is not a heavyweight. You can't be an old person. And at like Bantamway, just there's no. No shot. You, for him to even have a, like a good career, everything has to roll high. Because like if he just gets one injury and knock on what, I don't wish it on him.

But if he tears an ACL, okay, he's out for a year. And suddenly he's 31. Like that's, there's just no room for error. And he's still green in general. I like him a lot. He'll be fun for as long as he's here. But he's too old to be like a prospect. And that sucks because he would be a great one if he was in five.

years younger. Second round finish, first round finish, first round finish, split decision win, first round finish, decision win, second round finish, first round finish, first round finish. Dude just is very, his fights are mostly very, very fast. Jacqueline Amarim gets a submission win. Timmy Quamba, Flying Knee, TKO gets the win there. And Jocelyn Edwards kicking off the festivities. Women's Bannamweight is so back, Jed.

Jocelyn Edwards set in the tone with a first round knockout. We don't get to say that very often with the women's Bannamweight fights, but that is what we got here. So that is UFC, Kansas City. The first four fights ended and finishes. We didn't get another one until the Grimalescaryov stepped in on the main card.

But all in all, pretty fun night of fights. It's been a fun day of fights. The UBank Ben fight was a classic. Eddie Hall did just stole the show and maybe my heart. It was so, I did like a little watch along on my Instagram. I was like, let's just watch it. Maybe we'll have some fun here. And they just went right into it.

They were like, this is not the co-main event. Surprise, here comes Eddie Hall to the cage, just out of nowhere and then 30 seconds later, it's over. That part was weird because like tapology had it as in that like correct order. And it was just like, but all week long, everybody had it as the co-main. And so they didn't really communicate that well. But I want to say two important things about the Eddie Hall, Pugnowski fight.

And I recognize the UFC post show, don't care. It was the most fun I've had all year. For all 30 seconds of it, it was a lition. The two things I want to say are one, the number of people who reached out to me and were like, how do I watch KSW? I'm having issues because I had some issues loading my KSW. I eventually got it to work. It was a big whole ordeal.

A number of people being like, hey, how do you watch this? Blah, blah, blah. And then afterwards being like, that was so dumb. I'm so glad I watched. Thanks for telling us about it. Like, numerous people.

That was the core of the message was like, that was so stupid. I'm so happy I paid 20 bucks to watch that. Thank you for letting us know this was happening. One, you're welcome, KSW. Two, testament to like how you can just entertain people with very, very silly nonsense. And three, and most importantly, and I want to do this here. So we have video and we can clip it if necessary.

Looking right at you, Don Davis, I swear to God, if you don't give us Francis Nganoo versus Eddie Hall, I will take this PFL shirt and burn it. there is no clearer thing in the world to do. Like who nobody gives you shit about Francis fighting Vadim Knav. I don't care what Fight Matrix has Nimcov ranked. I like Dennis Goldsov. I guarantee you I like him more than literally everyone who watches your product. And I don't need to see Francis fight Dennis Goldsov.

What I need is to see Francis fight Eddie Hall. And I promise you the world does. too. You basically did this last time. Look, he's fighting a big man, except for no one knows who Hinen Fahara is. So it's just, it's a big guy. Instead, it's heavyweight champion of the world versus the world's strongest man. That is like the most layup fight poster promotion that can be done. It is so easy to do this. You must. If you do not, I will be calling for your head forever do it do it don do it you have to i already said i already set it up we have the clip and everything i asked martin lewdowski about it he said absolutely definitely interested in this i'm

in touch of them all the time it is right there and to to add to your point this will be by far this would be the biggest fight in pfl history it would be the biggest pay-per-view they've ever done and ever will do they will never do another bit they will never do another bit they'll be They will never pop a number on pay-per-view like they would with this fight. And it doesn't even have to be like a real thing. Just do what they did. It doesn't even just do two-minute rounds. You think Francis is going to be like, no, I'm fighting him in two-minute rounds.

Of course he will. He's going to make millions and millions of dollars. And he's going to get kind of the biggest pay-per-view they will ever do. That is the biggest fight that man can have in mixed martial arts right now without question. And Francis is going to fight like one more time. He's going to fulfill whatever contractual obligation he has to do. He'll sit on the board of PFL Africa. And then he'll go box a bunch of dudes and make a bunch of money.

And guess what? He can box Eddie Hall too. And you can cross-promote that. We can have a run of Francis Eddie Hall fights. Just do it. Who cares? No, it doesn't matter. Francis is in the end of the MMA line.

Let's just do fun, weird shit with him. And you can sell 100,000 pay-per-views because that will. That will. as good as UFC was and as great as Chris Eubank Jr. and Connor Ben was today, KSW slaughtered everybody today. Oh, dude. It is not close in what people care about today, man. It's not close.

It's like five times more. I just, we got a clip from KSW and put on our YouTube shorts of Eddie Hall celebrating the win, not even the finish, just him, Celebrating it and hearing the crowd stunned. It's got like a quarter of a million views. 17 seconds of any hall just be like, yeah, I beat this dude's ass. That's how much people cared about this. 30 seconds.

Do the thing. ESPN, MMA, do it. ESPN. Reach out to Don Davis. Reach out to Martin Lewndowski. Reach out to the people at KSW. Make this fight happen. You will sell 100,000 pay-per-views.

A hundred thousand. People will sell it. people will simply care. They will care about your product in a way that they do not. Again, I want to be super clear. You don't build the plane out of the black box, right? You can't only eat candy for dinner. I'm not saying only do these.

You got to do them sometimes because they're fun. Your promotion desperately needs fun. This feels really achievable. Like Eddie Hall afterwards, after he fought Brugnowski, one, called for a rematch, which is very, very silly. But credit too. It was very silly, but funny. But then they asked him, we're like, so Eddie, do you want to stick around KSW?

And he was like, no. I don't have any interest in just like being a fighter, right? Like, I'm not trying to climb the ranks of KSW. I'm interested in fighting, you know, my heroes or maybe this is misquote, but I think I'm right here. Other freaks of nature. That's pretty much just. blatantly saying Francis Zingano.

Like I would, yeah, that's a big spectacle of a fight. I'll probably lose, but that's almost certainly like he would lose. But that's fine. It would just be such a big cross-cultural event. Because like that is the thing that would catch real heat with like idiots. Like people who don't know anything, but like, this is a world strongest man. He's the world strongest man. Yeah.

Tune in. Let's see. He's going to lose, but it'll be cool. Yeah, just like you said, I had more people reach out to me about this fight than any other fight this year. And any, like on any platform, by far. It's not even close. So do the thing. And you get to, and look, stack up the card with good fighters. Put Dakota Ditchev on there. Put Paul Hughes and Usman Ramaga Madoff and all your best fighters. Like, just stack this card. But the last thing we need to see, the poster is those two guys. Because look at what KSW did. Everyone, too. tuned in for Eddie Hall, Marys Puginooski, but if you stuck around and watched the main event, the main event was freaking awesome.

It was incredible main event. I knew it was going to be anyway, but it's a banger. Like, it's KSW rocks, man. KSW. Yeah, they are so good. They are so good. Speaking of so good. The MA Fighting.

World strongest man versus world heavyweight champion. It's the easiest promotion that can be made. That's it. Do it, Don. Do the damn thing. Casey, get in here. We need our valuable producer to bring up questions from our, valuable community.

I have a question for Casey. Casey, are you ready to give up on Chelsea Chandler the way I gave up on Demolador? Oh, I wasn't like a, I just like that meme of Chelsea Chandler running away. I just, I just wanted more of that. That's all. I just, you know, she does the little Diaz thing, you know, I just, I just like, she had a little bit of personality. No, I haven't given up on her. Well, good for you.

All right, what do we got here? Super chat. Spencer, howdy, boys. Thought Gary looked Masterville for three and a half rounds until he didn't. This fight gave you lesser, more confidence in him winning a title. And does he match up best against Shafcott, Brady, or Ballal? So, I mean, we saw the Shafcott fight, but. Oh, sorry, real quick.

I did a poll while you guys were talking. How did these score to the fifth round? And it was actually a 50-50 split between all our commenters between a 10-9 and 10-8. I am surprised by that. So way to go chat. And on MMA decisions, only three journalists gave the fighter draw, the great Jedmishu. They're wonderful with Zane Simon. I saw Zane did.

Who else? And this guy. Way to go. Oh, you got an M.A decisions cred. You just wanted to pad that number. I saw Zane did. And I was like, oh, shit, I'm not alone here. we just say how do you have round one around five the same freaking score it's just it bog was on mine

so yeah sorry scoring is your project it just yeah the boxing scoring system in mma just makes no sense you can't score both the same and in boxing if you get a knockdown and you have a guy heard it you lose a point like that's just how it works so uh becomes a 10 a round 99% of the time so uh let's start the first question jed does this fight this performance from me and machete o gary Does this give you less or more confidence that he will at some point become a UFC champion? Of the same. I still have some questions. He is, my main concerns were not, you know, manifested themselves because in this fight,

because they do in every fight. He's not the most dynamic fighter, right? Like, he's very skilled, very well-rounded. He can be threatening everywhere, but he does not bring a superpower to the game, right? And certainly in the past few years, mostly champions have some exceptional weapon in their arsenal that their game is built around, right? Like, there aren't many George St. Pierre's who are just really great at everything and their adaptability comes into play. Ian Gary is sort of of that mold, but obviously not the athlete GSP was. And so that is my concern is that when he goes up against the guy.

like Sean Brady, who is the strongest man alive and an elite grappler, that's probably tough, like, that might be a tough matchup for him. We saw Shavcott, he was very, very competitive. I do put some stock in Shavokkot having, like, one working knee going into that fight as being, like, probably part at play there. And he also lost. So, you know, competitive defeat is still defeat. and against like a ballol. Ballal also is ball is super well-rounded, but I would say it's slightly edges

in a couple of major spots here. And so he's still young. That's definitely the best thing he has going for him. But I would really like to see him develop something that is really, really dangerous because Prattis was never in any danger in this fight, right? Like he was losing cleanly, but he was never like,

oh man, Prattez is cooked in there. And that's a hard way to make a living in this sport to be winning 25 minutes every time out. It can be done, but it's a lot damn easier if you can just be like, oh, I booped a guy and he died. Can I ask a question? Yes, please. Jed, where do you rank process now in watcher-wait? Since you called the fight a draw. Right now, I have to look at where my rankings are right now.

I'll tell you right now. You don't need to look. I got it for you. You have Machado Gary very high. You have number four in your top 15. And I think it's the highest of everyone on the staff. And nobody had, of course, proches in the top 15 yet. Well, so my rankings will be slightly different because Leon is still high because we did not adjust this post the Brady fight.

So obviously my rankings will be a little different next time we do them. looking at it Prattis will go behind he'll go ahead of Gilbert Burns and then I don't know how the rest of that will shake out he'll probably be somewhere in the top

he'll be somewhere in the top seven top seven okay it might be higher it might be a little lower it'll depend on how because the next time we do at the Jack Delafite will have also played out

we'll see but you're going to probably in the top 10 without a doubt you think the process will 100% be the top 10 it's whether he'll be like six okay okay yeah i had uh oh sorry i approached at 11 oh you're right you're right correct no we've had oh sorry we had a couple i'm sorry we had a couple i'm sorry dam had him at uh damon had him at 14 uh yeah he will he will rise uh gilbert burns and michael morales are about to fight so if michael morales wins that'll change things so there's a

he'll probably be like seven or eight yeah i think that's probably where he ends up probably around eight yeah i think i had gary the lowest ranked at nine and i'll probably put proches actually right behind him yeah garry it's five if if we if we're doing a ranking shakeup right now it would be ballal shafcott brady i'd probably put gary at four my three That's exactly how I put Gary above JDM right now. Just for right the second. I already have Gary above JDM. So that's,

yeah, that's exactly what I have. Yeah, that's how I would do it. Yeah. I'm always just interested how, because I know, I know everyone's got a slightly different perspective

on how to handle guys on law, how to rank them off a loss. So, I'm just interested. I think, but I think everyone's kind of the same page. I'm mostly tried to rank based on the performance. Like,

so like what is scored. So even if I thought it was a draw, I just credited it as a loss because it feels like a better way to do it to me. But I process is big thing is he just hasn't beat anybody like, great, you know, and he still hasn't. But fun enough performance, he's on a good run. A lot of old blood needs to move out well toward anyway. Yeah.

Yeah. And just to answer the other question, I think I think Gary needs to try. try to fight as often as possible and get some reps in kind of like Jed said i think he one thing i took away especially from last 10 minutes i know it was somewhat short notice heading into this fight it was actually short notice uh belal ball would have been a problem for him in that fight because bala ain't taking a backward step belal would have been in his face the entire time uh gary wouldn't be able to take him down it would have been a i think it would have been a really rough night Brady is interesting because Gary is

Gary moves around really well But Brady is a friggin tank man And I know Gary's get pretty solid take down defense But don't matter man Sean Brady grabs a hold of you You're going down And if he gets on top of you

It is a rough time for you So I would say he matches up better with Brady But I think that's a tough one too So that's why I think these two guys should fight If he beat Sean Brady Give him a title shot I'm fine with that. But, yeah, Bala, I think, would be tough for him right this moment.

All right. Thank you much. Terrence Leverett. Oh, kind of off topic here. But here we go. Give me three futures for NFL if you had your pick. I mean, if I had to pick, right? It's unlikely just because it never happens, but are very, very,

rarely happens, obviously. Eagles are still the best team in football, but a pretty wide margin, top to bottom. Their weakest spot is their quarterback, who's still like a top 15 quarterback, and they have the best to align the best defense, arguably the best wide receiver core, the best running back. I'm going to, I would just pick them to win the Super Bowl if you're going to ask for a future. I'll pick them to play the Chiefs in the Super Bowl because they're just in the Super Bowl every year. If you want something safer, pick the Chiefs to make the aFC championship game because they're just in that actually every single year. I don't know.

I'd have to think about a third. Both of those just seem really low-hanging fruit to me, though. I'll go with the New England Patriots at plus 6,500. I'll pick, I'll future Cam Ward to win rookie of the year, offensive rookie of the year, because he's just going to be the starting quarterback, and I don't know that any of the others will be. and that's a huge advantage. So boom.

I love the Patriots draft. I thought they did a tremendous job. Great draft. It's one of their best drafts. I love the Trayvon Henderson pick. That was, or Travian Henderson. Really good pick. They short up some things they needed.

I'm very excited for the year. Much more confident than I was last year. I got to win it, but they will be more fun to watch. And that's all we're looking for. I'm asking a silly question. What does futures me? you place a bet now for the major outcome so who will win the Super Bowl oh like months away from now

yeah like who will win the Super Bowl and all the teams are available but it different odds because like we don't even know who's in the Super Bowl okay that's what I thought I assumed to admit that all right thank you much Terrence yeah so so to give you kind of a betting guideline for this Eagles are the favorite they're plus 650 get it or you could be possible low for a future bet because they have such a low chance of inning. And you could bet on the Cleveland Browns or the New York Jets at plus 20,000. Don't make those bets. Those are bad bets.

So I know. You could just super chat us to 10 bucks. I know Philadelphia won last year. Do you remember what their futures bet was at the beginning of the season by chance or around? I don't remember what it was. They were not in the top like four or five. They would have been high, but they were not. fingers.

Yeah. They, yeah, because they were still high, but they were coming off a bad year the year before. And there were some question marks around the team.

All right. And then they are arguably the best football team of my lifetime. There you go. Thank you much. Super chat from RS 40. What do you think

of Usman taking the Buckley fight? He doesn't want to fight in four years. What do you think, Chad? UFC Atlanta, backyard for you, my friend. You get the return of Kamara Usman against the guy who went from the worst callout in UFC history to turning it all around and just doing the thing right. I have to imagine this was not the first choice for Usman.

But given the other choices, this is probably the best. one, right? Like, all right, come on, you're not getting a title fight as much as you really try to leverage for that. Do you really want to fight Sean Brady? That doesn't seem like a thing that anybody should want to do at this juncture. So you're not going to get that. You're not going to get Bilal. You've got to fight somebody. Ian Gary's already kind of tied up. I guess you could try and wait and see the winner of Gary protests and maybe do something. But Buckley is beatable. I don't think he's going to do it. you, but, you know,

Kumar Usman is an all-time great fighter, so maybe you can do it. I think this fight makes a ton of sense. I think it's tough. And if I were Usman in Usman's corner, I would have tried to be like, hey, man, I think instead of this, we should be trying to just do legacy fights,

give up on the title hunt, because this fight only makes sense if you're Usman, if you are trying to get to the title again. And I think that that, you should just be a little. more self-aware that that's not happening for your career. And you should be fighting Robert Whitaker doing that sort

of thing. But it's an interesting fight. So, Godspeed to him. And credit to Joaquin Buckley, who is raiding the old folks home on his way to a title fight. I mean, this is an impre...

I don't mean this to mock Buckley at all. I have nothing but respect for this. This is a sort of path you would beg to carve out. I get to fight old wash for Sintay luke Stephen Thompson who well there's

who was the most recent one Colby Oh Colby that's right Colby Covington and now getting Usman like you're getting he is fighting all of the Pat like the previous generation of Welter weights and if he beats Usman he's probably

going to fight for the title next which is kind of wild but great career management credit to you bud yes very well done got a title shot pretty much. Basically. Yeah. And he became a UFC legend, an octagon legend per Bruce Buffer's announcement.

I feel like I'm taking crazy pills. And everybody else. I guess I don't want to get into it. But yeah. I feel like I am taking crazy pills is how they handled that. But I'm sure. Yeah, I'm sure we're going to get some sort of comment or super chat about it. But this is, this is, this is, this is, this is,

Kamar Usman, I'm with you, Jed. I think this is who's been saying, okay, I'm going to give this title thing to go. This is about as good of a matchup as I'm going to get. And also, he is being so left behind right now. Like him even mentioning like, I should be fighting for the belt if he ever does that, it is laughable at this point with how this division looks like right now.

He's so far back in the pecking order with how this division is played out since he's been on the sidelines. It's not even close. I mean, I don't even know where I would rank him right now. Like, if he was eligible to be ranked, I don't even know where I would put him. I don't know. Do you still have Gilbert Burns rank?

Because you probably have to put him above Gilbert, just because he did beat Gilbert. So I have Burns at 8, which is probably a little high. Yeah, but we have an update of these in a while. I mean, he's probably 8. Eight or nine. So, yeah, he has to find him. man like he cannot wait any longer he's got to get in there and do something because even if he beats buckley

he's still not getting a title shot he's still going to have to win another one probably i'm not certain about that i think he should have to fight another one he's a real big name if he wins and we're not doing the islam thing and bala's still champion or whatever uh i think Ballal would try, because Ballal already tried, kind of. Of course, Balaal's going to try. They might do it. They shouldn't. Wouldn't be a great look.

I wouldn't be stunned if it happened. They tried to do it before. They tried. And if on Balaal, that's the fight, I would have gone for that fight before the Schofcott won, too. And then eventually you realize, like, all right, it ain't happening. I'm just going to turn my attention to Shafcott. So, yeah, Uspin has to fight, man. He has to fight.

and a win is not enough they are like he's got to go out there and he's got to body wakene buckley in that main event he's got to do it so we'll see if he does very i think he's a little closer to the belt than um i just believe he's closer to the boat so ufc loves the idea of ex champs fighting for the title again because it's easy promotion and i just like this fight a lot i think it makes a lot of sense but uh we will see we will see yeah it's just it's just a totally different division than it was when he left. I agree.

This might make sense. I think it should not be doing this. Yeah. But maybe I'll be wrong. If he wins, then I'll look very foolish. If he loses, I'd be like,

that was dumb. He should have been fighting other dudes. If he loses, does he fight again? Is Robert Whitaker an easier fight though? You mentioned Robert Whitaker. That's why I don't know. I don't know that it's an easier fight,

but it's a legacy fight, you know. It's just like a, fun the wins and losses don't matter against Robert Whitaker it's just about doing it for funzies if Usman loses does he fight again i'll say yes but i'm not confident in that okay adds to the story all right uh you got super chat here from joe gary is good but he doesn't like getting hit MVP and cp showed this and the broadcast didn't say it does a power puncher like

Buckley run through him. So I don't know that he doesn't, well, no one likes getting hit in general, but to the point you're making, I don't know that this is all the way true. He doesn't have a great chin. I don't think he has a bad chin, right? Like I don't think that he is, you know, a wilting lily who will collapse under the first sign of pressure. But he, I think pretty clearly he does not have like a Max Holloway, do not.

really give a shit what you hit me with. I'm still hanging in here. And that is also a problem because like that is a huge advantage in fist fighting. And you got to, again, it's just another margin of error you have to play around if you're Ian Machado Gary. We have seen him get jawed. Basically every time he's gotten like tagged, not great. But that being said, I really liked how he fought in the fifth round once he got back to his feet when he was under pressure and getting hurt. He was trying to run away for a while and then recognize this is actually bad. Like me moving away is when Carlos Prattis is starting to get me. I just need to set down and fire back, get him off me and sort of change the dynamic of the exchanges here. And so I don't think

it will be prohibitive to him, but I do agree that he is not like, he is not bulletproof when it comes to durability. I would pick Ian Gary to be walking Buckley. And I think the Wonderboy fight, and I think the Wonderboy fight is kind of a prime example. If you can move and keep Buckley at range, you can do very well against him. And Wonderboy had a ton of success until he didn't. And I thought Wonderboy was two minutes away from winning at 3027 in that fight.

So I think Gary could do similar. probably a little bit better because you can move around a bit better than 42-year-old Stephen Thompson can at this point or 41-year-old Stephen Thompson could at that point last year. So I would pick Gary to win. But again, Buckley is coming on strong and the dude can whack. So if he gets, if he chins Gary could change things. But I would not say Buckley would run through him. Yeah, I don't think he'd run through him.

He could win. If he landed, he can get it done. I like Mike, like you Mike, I would pick Gary to win, but, you know, it's tense because again, again, this is the issue, right? I don't think Buckley is necessarily the exact one. My major concern for you and Machado Gary's career, he's going to have a lot of 25 minutes, man. And that is, like, if you are not highly durable, like, Barab is incredibly durable and has insane cardio. So, like, it works. All of the component parts work.

if you're not and like again he is not fragile I'm not saying that but if you're not like incredibly unkillable 25 minutes is a really long time against some of these dudes

who just take one it can be done you're walking a tightrope every time you fight though yeah all right what else we got here I don't think we talked about this yet

question of the boys what the hell is up with Dan Merger Goliata tonight was the dude drunk. Jeez, dude. Like, I feel like on all these post-fight shows, we're talking about refereeing and judges, mostly because the referees don't call anything.

And I think some of that was true again tonight. But I think most of us in the community have just come to accept that that is what the sport is going to be now. The referees are not going to step in and make a call. But Jesus Christ, man. Dan Bergliata, you fall for the clapper once. Okay. But to have it happen again?

like what is going on here Matchnell was getting ready to like choke out Jimmy Flick like he was looking real good and then taps him on the back like okay rounds over and then you see him looking over again twice

holy shit dude what the hell is that I will give one caveat here and because I was firmly on board the one slight caveat I will say is it's possible it's something else was a miss because in the main event and the commentary team even noted it were like that round

ended early there was still time on the clock when so there is maybe something was a foot and dan twice was cooked but like the timekeeper or something things were getting wires were getting crossed down there it was all just super weird and it just can't be allowed to happen like you can't I think the most likely explanation is that that was a different thing and that twice Dan just heard the clapper and was like, oh, the bell is over. But that seems so, so impossible to believe because it's not like Dan, this is Dan's first time. Dan's roughed a lot of fights. I can't possibly imagine that he is, it's so hard to believe that he just had a stroke and forgot what the clapper sounds like, right? So something is rotten in Denmark, multiple. Like something

is rotten in Denmark. I don't know what is happening here. It was. super weird, but it can't be allowed to stand. And this is the frustrating thing that it's, you know, a bigger issue. I don't know who's at fault. There's no accountability. And that's like, there's no accountability for referees. And so like if ultimately Dan is at fault, which feels like the most likely outcome, even if it seems insane, like you can't, you can't roll out a dude who butcher's it that bad twice. Like that's your job beyond anything. Yeah. Your job beyond every other thing as the referee is literally to start and stop the action and keep time moving appropriately.

And then it is to protect the fighters. Like that is almost the order of operations your job to start things, to end things all on time. If you're not even doing that part, you just can't be employed. And so if it's not Dan's fault, we need to know that. Something needs to be done. I don't know if anybody asked Dana at the post-fight presser. I hope that they would have truly baffling whatever the hell is going on tonight. All right.

And it is a good dude too. So I don't want to be a jerk. But yeah, tough night at the office. Sorry. Got super chat here. Oh, this is confirmation what you thought about round four, Jed. I guess. So I was like super certain.

The issue that I always, because I always want to be a little. Cage, I was live blogging, but I was watching it and I just saw the left hand and I saw Ian Machado Gary's knees like full drop and I was like, oh, he got tagged and nobody said anything. And then he didn't throw a punch for the restaurant. I was like, he definitely got tagged. Good. Glad to know that I'm not crazy.

That's all. Super chap from Derek the dad. It's probably James Krausses. Nicely done. Maybe that was who was in the crowd, shooting Anthony Smith, the bird. I had this fight going to one and a half. That would have been a tough bet for old James. Super chat from Stephen, Stephen Dawson.

I was listening to the fight on my way home. I heard an inadvertent horn during the Gary. fight that's why that round ended early yeah i could totally be the case i didn't hear it so i don't know yeah and one last super chat oh no more super chat's coming i say we've got a couple popped in yeah louis why do you believe that ian will still not admit he was in a closely contested fight is this him playing into the heel persona did you not say that i mean i didn't watch the press or anything but he didn't really in a post fight he was like i was following I was never hurt.

But that's pretty traditional fighter speak of like sort of downplaying any negative thing that happens to you. He gave protests a lot of props. It wasn't like my favorite post fight, but he was far from the worst. There were a couple pretty bad post fight efforts tonight. Randy Brown. Randy Browns was awful. I also.

I blame Felderner on that one. That's all. I don't because this is not a pop quiz. You know they are going to. going to ask you have a name. It's just like literally the most basic homework assignment is to have a name to say or an answer when they ask you for a name because you know they're going to. I actually thought Ming Yang Zhangs was the worst tonight.

I love it. I loved it. I loved it. He just didn't understand the assignment. No, he got it. He didn't because he's not, he's not going to actually go over as a heel. And so like you just kind of. upset the Kansas City crowd for like a minute and then go away.

I think the like, you don't know now you know thing. That's totally fine. But basically in his position, you just have to be the gracious Victor. And you know that and be like, hey, really glad, you know, great win for me. Anthony's a legend. Put him in the Hall of Fame. Glad I could share the Octagon with him. I hope everything's great for him.

Dana. Look, this is how this is how you. you get over not what's true or honest this is what you do with your job uh Dana give me any you know I've got a ranking now I'm ready to go uh Anthony it's your time to shine and you just got a you got to get in quick put Anthony Smith over say one message and then dip out because nobody's there to see you you have to understand that so I his was the worst one to me of the night I really Brown's is pretty bad I disagree about saying he He just, he has a billion fans

in the other side of the world. There's a billion fans. He wasn't talking to those 15,000 people in that arena. He was talking to, yes, he was. He specifically said, Kansas City, how do you feel now?

He was directly speaking. Whoa, he wasn't talking. He wasn't talking. The two times he spoke English, the first time was Kansas City. That is a direct speech to them. He wasn't there. He wasn't there to please them,

rather. he was not there to please them no he's not but so wait but your answer was dang shouldn't gave the most boring speech ever that we would not be talking about ever it was like great fight legend hall of famer you're not going to be talking about this at all either

like you just got to go over with class like hey man I won but it's not my night this is ultimate fighting this is so class here come on no one's talking about him at all anyways we're talking about Anthony style you got 50K UFC game 50K y'all I can't believe they gave him money

UFC they liked it I'm telling you they You think that's, you think that's why they gave 50K? Why they gave them 50K? Because they didn't want, because they're clearly insane. They've been butchering their bonuses all year. The strawweight lady who did an awesome submission. There were other submissions. They've been great submissions.

They've been pretty long. bonuses all year. Yeah. Yeah. My boy, my boy, don't. I get both sides. I get both sides. I get both sides.

The duelist, the dualist, everybody wanted his head the way he celebrated beating Shogun. That's the thing. But be half-mead. He danced. That guy danced for Shogun when he- But that's the thing, Casey. That's why I didn't like it.

If you're going to be a bear, be a grizzly. No, that was cool. The like holding Anthony Smith from jumping. He's like cool. But like if you're trying to get over with your heel energy, dive in, man. Go like dance. Be like, hey, get out of your old man.

The guy knows. Do that. You know, I put that old man. Damn. He knows 15 words in English. He said them all. It was great. A plus work.

A plus work from Mountain Tiger. We just have to agree to disagree on that one. Well, I mean, he's on your fantasy team and he got you a billion points up. Yeah. I forgot that. Let's go, baby. Let's go. Let's go.

In case he salted away the win this week. Oh. I just love that. I tried to get out of that. that fantasy league the morning of and just like come on man stay i'm like all right all right and now i'm all right and now i'm all like you're gonna host you're gonna host that ex-go dude like you're so excited about it you're so in thank you louis uh super chat uh oh we talk about the boxing today oh good uh double super tonight thanks for the late coverage guys how good was ben

you bank feels like boxing is having a major resurgence so i i actually caught the fight after it was over because I was doing like social stuff and I had the UFC and we're doing this show down the stretch and AK was telling me like this fight rules. And then I saw Brian Campbell saying that it was theater and it was like the best fight ever. So I did go back and rewatch it. It's fucking great. If you haven't seen it, it's a horrific fight. That's awesome. I haven't seen it.

I saw nothing but praise for all of it on social. So I'll go check it tomorrow. I was watching KSW and then doing other. wrapping up a project that is dropping on Monday for us now. Yes. Which is annoying because I did a lot of work today, so it would drop tomorrow. And then we've moved it to Monday. So it's going to be fun, tune and enjoy that.

And I'll check out the bin fight tomorrow. Yeah, dude, it rocks. It's Oscar Willis said it best because that was like my first thought, maybe like five rounds into it. Those two dudes are made for each other. Like it's just one of those things. They're just, they're sympathetic oh man. I mean, I mean, literally.

They're generationally bred to fight each other. From the walkouts, Ubank walking out with his dad, like everything was just, it was amazing. That's awesome. Good, good for boxing. Good for boxing. Not for boxing, but still good to be the second coolest thing that happened today. All right.

Let's get out of here. Yeah, let's get out. I got more question. Yeah, we'll get that. We're good. We're good. me find the music you can bring those questions to between the links this week or whatever other shows are doing i don't know you can you can tweet me those questions for the mailback column that i'll be

writing i think monday yes uh if you have matchmaking questions uh don't send them here because i ain't can see you so uh submit your matchmaking suggestions how you normally submit them i will matchmake tomorrow as we typically do we're pseudo life. And then guess what? We prepare for U.S. Dumont and we're all thrilled.

Oh, we're back. Oh, we're back. We're so back. We're so back. I mentioned Des Moines, Iowa. And, yeah, I mentioned Des Moines, and it all just falls apart. A great fight, though.

Corey Sanhagen versus Davis and Figurato. Very, very excited for that. Return to Jeremy Stevens. Pretty good card. And we'll talk about it interrupt you here and make a comment. I am like back. Thank you all.

A wonderful day of combat action. Good night, everybody. Bye. Don Davis, do the thing or the shirt burn. Do it. Do it. Or it will be the worst town hall of your life if you come back. That's a promise.

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