MMA Fighting - UFC London Post-Fight Show | Reaction to Sean Brady’s Dominant Finish of Leon Edwards

Episode Date: March 23, 2025

Sean Brady just sent a message to the welterweight division. On Saturday night, Brady dominated former welterweight champion Leon Edwards in the main event of UFC London, becoming the first person to finish “Rocky” when he tapped Edwards with a mounted guillotine choke in the fourth round. Following Saturday’s event, MMA Fighting’s Jed Meshew and E. Casey Leydon react to Brady’s sensational performance, whether he leap-frogged Shavkat Rakhmonov in the 170-pound contender line, where Edwards goes from here, Carlos Ulberg’s forgettable win over Jan Blachowicz in the co-main event, Kevin Holland looking great back at welterweight against Gunnar Nelson, Molly McCann’s retirement from MMA, some questionable decisions on the undercard, and much more. Follow Jed Meshew: @JedKMeshew Follow E. Casey Leydon: @ekc Subscribe: http://goo.gl/dYpsgH Check out our full video catalog: http://goo.gl/u8VvLi Visit our playlists: http://goo.gl/eFhsvM Like MMAF on Facebook: http://goo.gl/uhdg7Z Follow on Twitter: http://goo.gl/nOATUI Read More: http://www.mmafighting.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Enjoy a Coca-Cola for a pause that refreshes. You're listening to the Vox Media Podcast Network. Yeah! Woo! The victory horn! Do you hear the horns is sounding? Bek. Kee, Casey Blimeon?

Bap-Brah! They sound. Those horns, they're tooting for Sean Brady, who put a stamp on the evening, submitting Leon Edwards. I'm sorry, the first man in history to finish Leon Edwards, submitting him after a total one-sided ass whoopin, guillotine choked from the mount in round four. Hey, everybody, I'm Jim Mishu. See it right there. I'm a writer for Mnickfind.com, but you know that because you were on the UFC London Post Show by Mbefighting.com. Fights just went down mere moments ago. And so we're here to talk about them for however long that ends up being Sean Brady.

We're going to talk mostly about Sean Brady, I think, tonight. We're joining me for this little event other than you, you find selves at home tuning in. The wonderful best producer in the game, baddest mustache in the game, no sleeves, no mercy, Mr. 3024. Casey Latton. Oh. Oh, and with the 90s sitcom TV turn, just A plus stuff.

Casey, you see London in the books right now, post-fight pressers, I'm sure kicking off, and it hasn't already. So things will be coming in. We'll get bonuses as we're doing this. Also, I believe the dirty boxing event

is finally kicking off somewhere on YouTube. We have a lot of coverage of that happening of Mnayfiting.com, but that's for other folks, because for us, we're talking London right now. And Casey, told you what happened in the main event. You asked a question in our internal slack, and that's where I want to start. Is this show more a celebration of the one-sided beatdown Sean Brady just delivered or going to be more of a tear down of Leon Edwards, who frankly did not look good whatsoever tonight? I'm going to stay positive because I like to be a positive person.

And I'm going to give all my praise to Sean Brady. He was just, he showed up tonight. He is, he is the man right now. He is the number one contender behind Shopcott. He did it. And despite being so short and small. So small. That was the funniest thing.

Like just, because I, I, I fell over. over laughing as I was watching that because like I think the fighters are crazy all the time that was like the most obviously insane one I've been here in all week that I'm too small for well you're the favorite not a single person has said that outside of you being the betting favorite nobody has looked at Sean Brady and been like the lats on that man definitely a 155 or like nobody has ever said that like you are just finding the most like the dimest bulbs on Twitter who say something stupid for you to be like to like really internalize that for that to be the first thing the first thing you say after the really biggest victory of your career like

just that was that was the best like all fighters are just stone lunatics I like we were in opposite sides of the country in that same moment we both like oh my god he did it it was it's the most ridiculous thing nobody in human history has ever been like that guy's too small to be a well too he like yeah you're short. Like, nobody's ever said this. When we're a long conversation about Sean Brady the possible lightweight.

Absolutely outlandish. It's the best. And for that to be the start was just the best. That didn't come at the end after he'd run out of things to say. That was what was weighing on his mind all fight week. Ah, they think I'm too small.

I'll show them, GER. He sure wasn't too small. He beat the shit out of Leon Edwards tonight. Yeah. I was just back back to, back to Sean Brady. Just just hyper impressed by him.

I love his grappling style. His hands look great tonight. I thought he, did I have him winning the first round? Yeah, I had him winning the first round. Even the first round was, you know,

whatever, but it was a little bit filling out round, but I thought Sean was good in that first round. And then, yeah, and then Sean Brady just took over. And I ended up scoring the first three rounds, 10-9, 10-8, and a 10-8.

So just pure domination. of Sean Brady and amazing performance and he did something yeah that no one's ever done to Leon Edwards and that's incredibly impressive incredible. I have the same scores. I you know the first round it was at least competitive. I think Sean Brady just did a lot more than Leon. Leon never got comfortable in there and Brady set the tone right from the outset opening bell he came right across through them hands made Leon have to respect that he would strike if he needed to then got that really fun a little foot sweep at the end of the round and as soon as he out on top realized,

okay, once I'm here, I am going to run this blast double like right out of the start. Funniest thing I thought of this fight, Bilal Muhammad tweeted it, but like, so I cannot and forgive me, it was either the heavy hands boys or Jack Slack or maybe even Luke Thomas.

I actually think it was Luke. And like some pre-fight stuff was noting that like against Belaw Muhammad, Leon kept giving up the same takedown where Balal would just get his head on the outside of of the hip and Leon didn't wouldn't be down blocking with his right hand and then just go for a ride and like that's just all Sean Brady did. Sean Brady just did the exact same takedowns Ballal did. He clearly studied, prepped, was very prepared for what he wanted to do

and Leon either just forgot all the stuff he learned to defend the thing that worked or was like no, I'm good. Sean Brady won't tackle me the same way Ballal did and got I mean just run out of cage, Casey. Earlier this week, Casey, I said a loaded comment about Leon not having that dog in him. And I, you know, I'm happy to walk that back a little bit just because tensions are high when you say a phrase like that about a former champion. We don't need to dive too much into it. But can we both agree that Sean Brady broke Leon Edwards mentally in this fight? Because to me, it is unequivocal. he jet like that tap came both from obviously technical brilliance on Sean Brady's part but Leon Edwards was done fighting he won it out of the cage yeah I mean that's gonna happen after two back to back 108 rounds I mean and and in you're Leon Edwards you're on top of the world you've never been finished in a fight yeah you've had you've had losses you've had tough fights but the way he was getting just just hands out on the ground like it was you know a white Not I want to say a white belt, but a blue belt going against your professor.

You know what I mean? Like you're just like, I just got to survive. Yeah. Maybe in purple. See you're surviving. Like I don't want to totally trash him because there is going to be a part of this where I lay into Leon for sure. Like credit to him. He didn't just like totally surrender.

But and like he kept defending himself. But it was all like it was to your to carry your analogy the I I can't stop the first three. things happening in the sequence, but I can, you know, block the neck from the choke for as long as I can. Like, he had nothing to offer Sean Brady on the ground. And it seemed very evident to me, very early, that this fight was just, like, that this was over. Because you had Leon in his corner sitting there in his corner being like, hey, man, like, let's take it to him. Let's pick things up in there. And Leon just never responding in any meaningful way as far as I could see. When you know, your statement you mentioned, and I don't want to, I was like, dude, this guy's a former champ.

You know, he's one of the best, but he's still one of the best waltrow weights in the world. But in that, I think the third round when he shot in for. That was, oh my God. That was, that was when the fight was. That to me, that is kind of what you, what I think was when you say he got broken. And since that, I need to lose this fight somehow. Like, I can't, like, he already decided he's going to lose the fight. So you start doing dumb things.

I'm going to shoot in and a horrible shot. Desperation. Yeah, it didn't make sense at the time. It wasn't like he was getting beat up on the feet and it's like, oh, I got to do something to change it up. He just kind of did it. And it didn't make sense at the time. It makes worse sense even looking back on it when I'm thinking about it. And yeah, that was a broken fighter in there.

And but I want to give, I want to, I'm going to stay positive. I'm going to give all credit to Sean Brady for putting that on Leon Edwards. So, but you don't break to nothing, right? you know like you got to there has to be a force applied to break that was i was doing the live blog for this fight when leon took that shot uh that was when i think specifically i wrote like this fight is over it's just a matter of how it finishes will leon survive to the final bell or is he going to get finished because that was just inexplicably bad and like because you could convince yourself okay first round competitive probably lost but like i wouldn't blown out in the first round

second round absolutely got blown out but we're back on the feet here like if i can just find a way to get a rhythm here he had stuffed some takedowns already in that same round like he had not given up like just falling over the first time sean brady touched him but then for whatever reason was like i will shoot and that immediately led to the bad place like just instantaneously sean brady hit a snapdown front headlock series rolls him over we're back into the danger zone Like, at best, it's a boneheaded fight IQ error. I think the much more likely answer is what is, you know, what you're getting at. Like he's broken.

He knew that he had lost and now we're just throwing stuff at the wall, maybe something desperately sticks. That's a tough place to be when you're Leon Edwards, who is a former champion with, you know, two wins over the consensus, best welterweight of this generation, certainly. never really got his dues and proper and now I would say is really unlikely to get back into the title picture

but Casey what do you think we talked about this a little bit before Leon is still a champion still young enough his last two performances have been really really lacking is this sort of the end of the road for a high level competitive Leon Edwards

do you think he can find a way to get back on the horse make some adjustments and find a second wind here are we now in the back nine of Leon Edwards career? We're in the back nine. I think so too, man. We're on the back night. Yeah, I'm not going to say he's going to, who's a, like a hit him,

and burrow type of fall off. I'm talking of like a champion. Well, that is. Tony? Yeah. Tony. That's a big falloff to you, I guess. I'm not predicting that, but I predict kind of,

Leon's going to kind of go back to kind of where he was before he was champion, And kind of, we always thought he was good. And he kind of became great. But I think he'll kind of be back to being good. And, you know, a top 10 guy. And I would be shocked if he makes his way back to a title shot after what we saw tonight. And it was kind of like I said, it was kind of how he lost, like shooting in that third round. It's things like that.

It was almost kind of reminiscent of to me, like little things. like Izzy in that fifth round when like Izzy was just contended losing just when like just when these champions are like all right you know and that's fighting it's tough I'm not trying I'm not trying to take anything away from Leon Edwards it's just this is the life cycle of a champion or any high level price fighter is just how it goes sometimes it's a human reaction because that's how I would react in a similar circumstance like oh I'm just going to lose so okay Like I will like I have been defeated.

I can make my peace with that. That's just not really the mentality you see of championship fighters because they're all delusional and think that they that people were calling them small. Despite having freaking lats that stretch the width of the entire island of England. Like it is like they just are all delusional when you lose that to be rational. Like yeah, I lost. Like I'm okay. Is that like I'll just. lived to fight another day.

I think it's gone. I was more open to the idea that Leon could find a way back prior to this fight. That was such a one-sided display. It's kind of how he lost. The way it happened, I'll be really surprised. Honestly, I'll be kind of surprised if Leon even has that many fights left. He just didn't seem like he really wanted to be in the cage much. Still a young man, he could have many years left in his career.

But credit to him, he won the belt. and I think that he may be a career casey where we look back and say, good for him, because it was not a certainty that Leon Edwards is going to win the belt. But for that head kick, Leon Edwards would be remembered forever

as a good but not great fighter. But one of the greatest knockouts in the history of the sport, the most unlikely comebacks ever, mean that he forever gets to be a champion. And then he won the third fight with Camaro, so credit to him for that. But really, really, really,

tough performance from Leon today. In part, Sean Brady looked unbelievable. And it is hard for me to know how much to put on Leon versus how much to put on Sean Brady. In general, I always want to give the credit to the person who does the thing. And I am more than happy to do that because Sean Brady looked sensational, Casey.

You know, his striking is never going to knock your socks off, but he was more than willing to get in there and throw. Had some success on the feet against Leon, frankly. just a physical hoss when they got into the clinches. He was using, like, every time they were in the clinch, he was digging that super deep underhook with his left arm, just getting like all the way like shoulder into shoulder deep with that thing,

just cranking Leon around. Leon had good head position and still just like Brady was just muscling him around in there. And the floor work was sublime. Leon never, Leon was never past like level four of defense, like the oh shit level of defense. defense. He was never even into the happy spots of defending on the floor. So, Casey,

had a bit of a chat with another one of our esteemed co-workers in our Slack following this. I think this co-worker is insane, but I've even seen a couple of people pose such a question in the chat. So I will ask this to you, is this performance from Sean Brady enough

for him to leapfrog Shavkat Rakmanov for the number one contender? I know in the post fight, he said I'm looking forward to be number one ranked. Leon is number one. I am fairly certain that on Tuesday, Shafcott will now move to number one in the UFC rankings

and Sean will move to number two, but it is possible that he just takes number one spot. Do you think he's taking the physical number one contender spot, though? Will he jump over Shavcott for the next crack at the Walterway belt? No. Shopcott won. He deserves it. He's earned it.

I still think Sean Brady is great. great performance, but he still doesn't, quote, move the needle enough to, I think, surpass Shopcott. If there was like, if Sean Brady was, I don't know, had a type, had a Patty Pimlet type of following or something from Philadelphia or anything, I don't know, maybe he could just from a prize fighting money perspective in the UFC, but in terms of just, you know, who deserves it more shopcott still deserves it. Sean Brady has earned his spot to be the number one contender after that fight though. Now timing wise maybe maybe shopcott versus Sean Brady might happen.

I don't want to see that. I don't like number one contenders knocking each other out, but that'll be cool fight obviously. But that's my stance as well. I rather each get their own their own shot. That is my stance as well because our co-worker, our unnamed co-worker was like they should do shopcott versus Sean Brady. My response is. no, Sean Brady can wait. I don't think Sean Brady needs to fight again. I think he's got a title fight set away now. But Chavkat, Shavkat had a title fight in December,

and he lost that fight because Ballal withdrew due to injury. Totally valid injury. If you look at the photos of Ballal's foot, that man could not have fought. There's not a world in which the doctor would have cleared him. But the only reason Shavkat, you know, ends up getting where this thing ends up is, hey, man, we need you to stick around.

Will you fight Ian Machado Gary on short notice? He says, like he chooses to stay and compete. He doesn't wait for his title fight. Wins the fight. And then in the course of that fight, injures his knee and is now out for a while recovery. I don't think he should be punished for that. I think he has done enough. Seeing some comments and some comments relayed from other sources,

his last two performances have been the most amazing, you know, beating Stephen Wonderboy Thompson. That doesn't rate that highly anymore. And barely beating Ian Machado Gary. I don't know, man, 190, he finished 18 of the dudes he fought, and then he still beat a top, I think a top five, welterweight, certainly a top seven welterweight. He beat a really good fighter. That is a completely different stylistic matchup on two weeks notice.

Like, he's done enough. Sean Brady absolutely deserves to, you know, fight for the belt in his next fight. I will say there is absolutely a world where Sean Brady is now, hey something happens to Jack Della before 315 the next couple of weeks Sean Brady's the guy getting the tap on the shoulder at this point because Chavcott's still hurt so to me this is very obvious Sean Brady sits out he serves as the backup fighter for the eventual Chavcott versus the winner of Jack Della JDM but

I wouldn't be that upset with it because this was a hell of a performance from Sean Brady Casey the last question I will have regarding Sean Brady and we can move on to other business, unfortunately, the coming event. Does it play into your effect, like into your factoring at all, that Shum Brady's already fought Belaw, Muhammad, and that was also a one-sided ass kicking. And it wasn't that long ago, a while ago, but not that long ago. Hmm. No, it shouldn't.

And, I mean, obviously, I think if, you're talking about the next fight or you're talking about if Belaw beats. I'm saying like if B'all beats Jack Della and they're like, hey, Sean Brady, do you, you want to get the next title fight instead of Shavcott? Like, if it's between Shavkaat and Sean Brady, is any part of you wanting the Shafkot because we've already seen Sean Brady lose? To what extent does their first fight color your interest in seeing another one? It colors in the sense that you're going to favor Blah, but what Sean Brady did tonight. Like if Sean Brady had kind of eeked out a, you know, a lackluster decision victory over Leon Edwards, I think we'll be talking different.

But what Sean Brady did tonight and just steamrolled Leon Edwards and did something that Belaw couldn't do. And just ended in the fight, but not in that, not in the crazy amount of domination Brady had. I think that kind of levels it out in terms of like excitement for that rematch. So I Yeah, I'm with you Honestly like I'd be happy to watch the rematch I think Brady looks improved And one fight is never indicative of how a matchup

Will always go But I am certainly in favor of a new matchup Because if the fight goes the same It will feel like a waste Casey before we move on to other fights on the card The co-main event again sadly We do have bonuses Let's play the bonus game Casey

Who do you think of the four people walking away with 50K today. Performance, clearly, Mr. Brady. Sure is. Nailed that one. Another performance to UFC debutante. How do you say her name? Alexia Thainara.

Thinara? Did she get one? I think that's correct. And yes, she did in fact get one. I'll be really impressed if you pull the last two out. Oh, so it's four performances. There's no fight of the night? It is four performances.

Okay. One of them is super tricky. Ooh. They gave it to Sean Abannon, right? They did, in fact, give one to Sean Abandon, not the tricky one. I hate that, but good for her. And the other performance will go to, ooh, a tricky one. Geez, how many fights that?

Oh, yeah, you're right. Kevin Holland. Four finishes. Kevin Holland is, in fact, the last one. Chris Duncan, who begged for 50 grand and got a finish and was a massive underdog and tap Jordan Vucinich did not get a performance. Kevin Holland, who in his own post fight,

was like, I'm not even sure I won. It could have gone either way. I thought he won. I had a 3026 form or whatever. But they gave Kevin Holland a performance as well, which very rare you see someone go to a decision and get a performance bonus. But they love them some big mouth.

So never beg for a bonus, Chris Duncan. Never beg for a bonus. Honestly, that is probably why you did not get one. Because when you beg for a bonus fighters, all that does is remind the fans how broke fighters are. And the UFC does not want that. Do not beg for money. It just doesn't work. I'm telling you.

I want you guys to get paid, but don't do it that way. If you hadn't, you just would have gotten it because there were only four bonuses. And you would have gone, there were only four finishes. You would have just gotten it. And also good performance, like deserved a bonus as far as that goes. But tough scenes for Chris Duncan. Shout out Chris Duncan for getting that W. we'll talk about him in a little bit.

Co-main event, Casey, we're not going to spend too much time on this because this fight was ass. Jan Blyhovic versus Carlos Olberg. Olberg wins a unanimous decision, 29-28s across the board in one of the most boring fights I've ever seen. I guess we should ask the question. How did you score it? I scored it for Jan Blyovic. Don't think it's a robbery. Don't frankly care who won, but I did score it for Jan Bolovic.

I'm pretty sure I scored it for Oberg But I was a little biased He is on my fantasy team So points for me Win's a win Win's a win But I did I did I did score I think two rounds

Probably yeah two and three I think I scored two and three For Oberg I think that's fine Three is the is the swing round So far as that exists For this fight But we kind of call this fight

I'm kind of proud of ourselves We miss a lot but we call We kind of call this fight We nailed this one In our pre-show So if you beat Yon, you would not look impressive. And I predicted Oberg-Cardust would win. But, and he would win a 29, 28.

And he would win in a way, he would not get a title shot. And most likely. No notes. It's exactly perfect. Like nobody beats Yon good. It just doesn't like Tiago Santos killed him 18 years ago or whatever the hell that was. And Glover tackled him and tapped him. But like, that's it.

Everybody else just like, Alex Pereira barely eeks out of way over him. You know, like it just doesn't happen. And Carlos Olberg did not remotely have the tools to make this like exciting or interesting. I don't think any scorecard you hand for that fight is bad. There's anything you want to put up totally okay with me. Carlos Olberg then in his post-fight, Casey, after truly the worst fight on the card. And there were bad fights on this card. Like this card was not awesome for parts of it.

But truly the worst fight on the card, Carlos Slebert gets there. It's like, what do you want next? Michael Biss being asked him on a seven, eight fight win streak, longest in the way class, title shot. That's it. It's the only thing I want.

Buddy, read the room. That is not happening for you. So, Casey, who do we think Carlos Sulber is getting next? Because it's not a title fight, not after that. Unfortunately, probably not. Are we at Yeri? Is it Yeri?

Is it Yeri time? I think it's probably Yeri time, honestly. Yeah. Maybe not just because, like, if something happens to Alex, Yeri is a fresh opponent from Agamud. And that is something that I think that they would absolutely do. But if not, the only other option is the winner of the Jamal Hill real roundtree flight that's happening in Kansas City next month.

That would be an exciting fight. The winner of that versus. Oldberg, that's a very fun matchup. Yeah. It's a fun matchup too. Yeah. I would like, yeah, that sounds good. But yeah, very unlikely he'll get a title shot from this.

Barring, boring multiple people having injuries, he's knocking it. At the minimum, Pereira and Yer are ahead of him in the line right now. Yeah, there's just people in front of him. Yeah. Like when Pereira beat beyond at 205, he did get a title shot. He did get a title shot right after that. But he did that incredible resume coming into that. And it's just timing was a former.

He's a former champion. Yeah. The timing is just like. And light, heavy weight is terrible. Yeah. So it's like, yeah,

it made sense. It was fine. I don't think I'm not going to, I'm not going to criticize though calling for the title shot. I mean, he kind of did it half hard. He kind of just said it to say it. Because what's he going to say?

I'm not ready for that title, Dana. Give me a really tough fight instead. I think your answer should probably just be like, hey, obviously not my best. Yere's cage side. Let me fight him. I'll do better. But like it is what it is.

He got the win. That's the most important thing we say it all the time. Gets those two paychecks. He keeps moving up. He'll be up the rankings now. It'll be a top five light heavy. But really underwhelming performance. A fight that I suspect will never talk about again.

It was really, really bad if you didn't see it. But overall, though, the the UFC run by Carlos Holberg. Have you been surprised by this, impressed by this, considering when his coming out party was getting knocked out, you know? So I've been impressed by it because his coming out party was so bad, right?

Like he came in, had a little of a background from a good camp, and then Kennedy and Zuchuku kills him. The issue is I've always been a believer in Kennedy and Zichuku to my detriment. Like he's one of those dudes. I'm like, he should be good. He's not,

but he should be. And so I give him a little more creditor. for losing that very early in his career to a guy like that. I mean, undeniably, he's put together a really good run, Simon pressed by. If you start to dig a little deeper and look at some of the opponents, like not the most sterling thing, but it's 205. Basically, this is everybody's resume at 205. There aren't that many good fighters in the weight class.

And he has consistently got his hand raised, which is really hard to do for eight fights in a row in any division in this sport. and you know his last two wins ranked guys Volcanoos Dimeer Jan Belhovic actually Minifield might still be ranked so I guess that might be last three I don't know if Minifield still ranked let me go see if that's Lonson Minifield still ranked that's three ranked wins in a row for Carlos Oldberg actually

so a win is a win not exciting didn't make himself a single new fan tonight but he got the W that's what matters speaking of getting the W Kevin Holland we already mentioned picks up a unanimous decision win over Gunner Nelson also gets a performance bonus for his win. 29-28s across the board, as I mentioned, Kevin Holland said,

eh, could have gone either way. I don't agree. I thought Kevin Holland arguably won all three rounds. I thought he definitely won two of the rounds. How impressed were you with Holland's performance? Because Gunnar-N-Elson was the betting favorite, a stylistically advantageous matchup. And while Gunn-Elson certainly had his moments,

Kevin Holland really, I think, pretty clearly won this fight. Yeah, I mean, obviously the entire fight, change in that last 10 seconds of round one up until then it was a very competitive fight i thought i thought gunner nelson was looking great not great but he didn't look like he was away from the cage for two years rather when i say he looked he was looking good in that first four minutes and 50 seconds then he got hit of a big one uh the fight couldn't if i could have been stopped i think um right at the bell he made it through he came back um and yeah uh and he looked just never kind of fully recovered although he did win the third there was the third round that

Gunner looked kind of... I didn't look at the judge's scorecards. I assume he won the third round. Yeah, he won the third, which I was surprised. That was the one where he got an arm triangle that was really deep and a good effort. But yeah, you couldn't get it then. No, Kevin Holland, this is who Kevin Holland is. He's a elite welterweight and he is a good middleweight.

But he is an elite Walter weight and hopefully he stays a welterweight and Gunner Nelson just didn't have enough tools tonight. and Kevin Holland's good. I mean, yeah. Honestly, yeah. This was just confirmation of, yeah, Kevin Holland should just be a welterweight. He's a really, really good welterweight. I was frankly impressed with what Gunny still has to offer,

despite long layoff getting up there in years. This game hasn't really changed much, but he's still really competitive against a guy that I think is a top 20, top 15 welterweight in Kevin Holland. And honestly, my biggest takeaway, I think, from this, fight Casey. I think we underestimate Kevin Holland as a grappler because he's a bad grappler.

His own words, I'm not very good when they outweigh me by 40 pounds. But against dudes my size, I can grapple. Gunner Nelson is a terrific grappler. Kevin Holland had a ton of success on the floor with Gunny. And I think we do underestimate his ability to fight in a weight class that just

suits him versus one that doesn't. Yeah. We have eyes. We see it. We can just see Kevin Holland just looks better in 170. He's just more athletic. His body comparison to his opponent looks more realistic. He's not just trying to survive underneath these giant dudes. Yeah.

Stay at 170, Mr. Holland, and you should have... I know I think he takes his 85 fights because there's no significant weight cut so he can no fight every other month. Obviously, Walter White, you know, bigger weight cut. just his lifestyle is affected more because, you know, obviously you have to diet for like two or three months. Got to work. So I get why he does it because, you know, he's very upfront about. I just want to get paid.

So good on him. But, yeah, I love seeing him at 170. It's fun. Exciting. His words. I was going to say his words after to Michael Bisping. Look, if it's a 185 fight, I could do it next week. If it's a 170 fight, I think he said July.

He just needs the time because he has to make a real weight cut to 170. So honestly, I hope it's 170. I don't know that Kevin Holland has a title run in him. He definitely doesn't if he keeps bouncing back and forth. I'd like to see him commit to one weight class and just push it as far as he can go. And if he pushes as far as he can go and can't get there, then Donald Seroni. Take weight, take fights, however, you know, do do that thing. But I think he goes it to himself and I would like to see just how far he can run things up.

at 170. So terrific performance from him. I don't want to do too much onto the next. I know that's heck. That's heck's thing. But like, is Kevin Holland and Leon Edwards a real? Could that be a fun matchup?

You know, really big jump up for Kevin Holland, but I don't think the UFC would be opposed to it. Yeah, obviously a big jump up, but Leon Edwards needs that kind of, he needs to take a big jump down. If it, to me,

if he wants to rebuild himself. Yeah. Depends what the UFC wants to do. actually with Leon to me. But I just, I was just thinking of my head. I was like, that's the fact I kind of everybody thought of. And I was like, well, I don't know. I've never thought about that.

That wouldn't be the worst matchup, right? Leon has to feel some level of he can win that, but Kevin can certainly win that. Yeah, man, it wouldn't be bad. That would not be a bad call at all. That is interesting. Yeah. The timing kind of works out, right? Just starting out there.

I mean, timing certainly would work out. Could be. I'm going to guess we're going to get something more like Jeff Neal or something. I don't know. I think he's probably going to get a rank guy, but we'll see. It also kind of matters. Kevin Holland will fight anybody. He just wants to get paid.

And sometimes that is to your detriment as a fighter. A couple of other notes here for this card. Alexia Thinara, as we mentioned, got a bonus. Submits Molly McCann with a green naked choke, the final fight of Mali Meatball Molly McCann's career. We were incorrect in the pre-fight preview. where I was like, I don't think she's going to retire even if she loses. Molly takes off the gloves, gives a very nice speech, says, you know, I'm not competitive anymore.

I don't want to, I need to stop doing this. Farewell to Molly McCann. You were certainly fun. Back-to-back spinning elbow chaos is a pretty cool little tidbit. Chris Duncan, we mentioned, gets the submission winner of Jordan Vucinich, but does not get the bonus, the only finisher on the card to not get one. Nick upset, big underdog, like a plus 300 some odd underdog, and just beat Vucinich up, like knocked him, dropped him in the first round and then finishes him in the second round. Chris Duncan Parley lives forever, baby.

Nathaniel Wood, really nice performance against Morgan Chagherier, 3027s across the board for Wood, who has just lost one fight since bumping up to 145, the Muhammad Nymov fight. otherwise five fights since moving to this weight class. Really great performance from Nathaniel Wood. Your boy, Casey, Chris Taco Padilla, takes a split decision win over Jai Herbert in the pre-lim main event, 2928 split down the middle. My boy, Lonnie Kavanaugh, overcomes a tough first round to pick up a unanimous decision win over Felipe Dos Santos, 28, 29, 29, 28s across the board. Marcine Tibera, Casey, still holding the gates.

Gatekeeper is not a bad term because keeping the gates is an important job and he does it well. Pushes back Mick Parkin with the unanimous decision win 2928s across the board. Though certainly some people not liking those scorecards, I can't tell you that I care enough about them. Christian Leroy Duncan takes the unanimous decision win over Andre Puliayev, good for CLD, and the Chris Duncan Parley 2-0 now. Twice they have fallen the same card. Twice both men have got it done. Sean Abandon submits Puget Tomar,

survives a head kick, and then Tomar just throws herself into an arm bar in a really bad effort. Gets a bonus for Sean Abandon. Callan Lockren, I think I'm pronouncing his name wrong, but I don't know how to pronounce it. So, Callan Lockran, it is, takes a split decision over Nathan Fletcher,

which we are going to talk about at some point because I hated that scorecard. Not a robbery. Not here to tell you that was a robbery whatsoever, I just hate it. And Cowie Fernandez with a just lights out performance against Gurm Kutata Ladez, I believe the biggest underdog on the card, though maybe Chris Duncan was a bigger favorite against Bulaev.

Kutata Ladez just gets whooped up on for 15 minutes from Fernandez. That was shocking. Really, really good performance. That one threw me off. I was not prepared for that. I love, I like watching Guram fight. And I was like, whoa, all right. He is getting whipped up by this gentleman.

know very little about he 92% of people fans had um guram uh picking as a winner coming into this fight he percentage wise he was the biggest favorite not betting wise but just straight picks so yeah big upset let me see how big of an upset was plus 300 so not like one of the biggest of the year have been a couple really big ones but uh you know look cowie lost his debut against mark Keese in a competitive fight and has since looked really good and looked sensational tonight. I mean, just beat the crap out of Grom. Really tuned him up on the feet. Had him hurt multiple times, dropped him with leg kicks a couple of times.

Really great performance. So that's all. We've done the bonuses. So, Casey, anything stand out from the rest of the card that you want to give a little extra shine to before we go to the peeps? I'm looking at MMA decisions and you are correct. looks like Nathan Fletcher might have got robbed

I don't think he got robbed I do not I want to be really clear I do not think this is robbery Rob is the wrong word but yeah nine out of ten journalists nine out of ten journalists did have Fletcher winning that fight yeah I just hate the scorecard I think that it is a defensible scorecard

I think you can score that fight for Lockerine based on the way MMA is judged and played pretty clearly watching that fight. Nathan Fletcher is the better fighter. He did more damage, had more ideas, but Callan Lachran sort of marrobed him. His words in his post fight were, I was just going to rob this dude. He just came forward and held the hips a bunch. He did not do a lot of damage, did not do a lot of anything with it, but he had enough activity, and Fletcher didn't, like,

really set himself apart, and Fletcher was always on the back foot. So I think you can score that fight credibly, 29, 28, Lachron, not how I scored it. And I, I did. I didn't, dislike that the MMA incentivizes that sort of thing. Because Nathan Fletcher was doing some really cool stuff. He clearly won the second round in a big way, particularly compared to the other two rounds. So not a robbery. I just don't like it,

if that makes sense. Fair enough. Fair enough. What did the M.M.A decision say about the Park and Tibera fight? I don't want to pull that up right now. It was kind of one that's 50-50. Pretty split. Okay.

Yeah. There were a lot of fights that were 50-50. My boy, Taco, but it was about 50-50 split. with him and Herbert. That fight honestly can go out either way. I think I scored that fight for Taco, but the visual is tough because he ended busted up. You ended up,

but when he was busted up, he also seriously wobbled Herbert. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, wow. I'm seeing a lot. There are people I know and respect on him made decisions with dueling 3027s in the Padilla Herbert fight.

Oh, wow. Which sometimes you get something like this, but it's rarely with people that I physically know. And I'm like, I, you don't have awful opinions about everything. And that is interesting. That's a straight. That is a straight. That is a straight.

That is a straight. That is a straight. Straight. Split. All score cards and all score possible. Yeah. Everything we can do here. Yeah.

I might have to go rewatch that and kind of get. It wasn't, it wasn't, honestly, it wasn't a great fight. Just both men kind of, uh, it was kind of a stalemate first two rounds. Third round was kind of fun, but it was fun. was fun first two round not as much yeah just one of those things you know both both guys are exciting fighters is just you know you know just one of those nights just they didn't just wasn't there but uh yeah i think i scored it uh for for um for your boy but i'm not i don't feel massively confident about it either so hey hey but my boy three and o uc three no baby that's all the at at the

in the best division in the sport so he's doing more importantly the villain alexander Kay Lee and his disrespect shall not stand. Oh, God, shall not stand, Casey. Stay in Canada with your Tesla and when we decide

you'll become our 51st state. That's right. We and you can have opinions. But until then, you cannot not about Taco Padilla, baby. Let's go. That's UFC London, ladies and gentlemen. So let's go to the peeps, Casey.

You know, I don't know who's putting stuff down there. But if you guys got questions, Chop them into the queue. We'll get to them. I answer the good ones. Super chats, get priority, pay to play. It's shame. It's how the world works. We'll try to answer some non-super chats as well, because I always like to do that. And we'll go until the questions get bad. So there you are, Tanvir hopping in. Thank you, Tanvir. It's crazy how spot on B'all's prediction was. Do we now finally stop underestimating seeing how good Brady is?

I certainly think we address this, Casey, about we're trying to give Brady more credit than we're taking away from Leon, though I think that there's part of the ladder there as well. I do just want to say, Casey, shout out to Ball. I thought he had a terrific night tweeting about this main event. He had some freaking bangers today. Before the fight happened, he's, I'm paraphrasing slightly, does Leon know what time it is? Then as the fight's going on, he's like, Sean Brady copied my homework. like pretty solid social media night from Bilal Mahabhad in my opinion

yeah yeah you're the champ good job champ you killed it on Twitter tonight good job it's great and yeah man like I also do think part of this is I don't think I'm not necessarily sure how much people are underestimating Sean Brady because I think everybody believes that he is good it was a favorite it's possible he is you know like the best the second best guy and Leon just or I'm sorry Bilal just turfed him. I don't think that's the case, but we won't know yet until Sean Brady fights a couple more top five guys.

Yeah. But right now, if you would tell me, if you would tell me Sean Brady is going to be UFC champion in a year and a half from now, I'll be like, okay. I mean, I have to see it, but it's nothing crazy, you know? Yeah. It's not outside the realm. Yeah. Honestly, if you told me that, I'd be like, so Jack Della beats Ballal and Sean fights Jack Della.

Because like he could, I have no trouble seeing Sean Brady beating Jack Della. Perhaps it's just the hangover from the first fight. I still have a bit of trouble seeing Sean Brady be Pallol. That fight was not particularly competitive their first go around.

So, but it's been a little bit. Maybe he's better. We'll see. Yeah. Thank you, Timver. Super chat from RS40. RS 40. honestly after watching this fight there are guys who are unranked that give leon problems i think

sean is the number one contender or fight shavkat next i'm just here to tell you all he is not the number one contender whether you think he is or not i think that it is almost a zero percent chance that he has jumped shavkot in the rankings now it is possible that he fights chavkot because the ufc needs fights and the timeline doesn't work out great for shavkis from Brady to not fight anyone. Outside of, hey, Jack Della got hurt, I will be stunned to see Sean Brady get the next crack at the winner of the Jack Della ball fight. Seems impossible to believe that to me.

Thank you, RS40. And one more super chat from RS40 to. RS40. Also, Thinaro fight for a belt one day. What do you think? It's a really good question, Casey. This week has been really funny because I know Thinar from Contender Series, where I did a prospect breakdown on her, obviously.

And I liked her. I just didn't know what to make of her because she clearly has some skills, got some personality, young can develop. Straw weight's not a particularly great division. I mean, it's a good division, but like it's the same people. So new blood is very welcome. We're kind of waiting for that new generation. Yeah, we're waiting for it.

Really want a new generation. I still don't really know what to make of her because Molly McCann had such. a clear defined weakness and she exploited that. But it's fun this week because AK did a deep dive into her as he was doing his predictions and was like, I want to see how good this person is and is very much on board with the Alexia Thinar bandwagon. And you could convince me she fights for a belt, but I also don't think that that's a certainty if that makes sense.

No, she just looks like she's a quality UFC level straw weight. That's what I saw tonight. And good personality too. We watch a lot of fights, and a lot of times we're like, who is this person fighting? And we look it up, we look up their page. We're like, oh, I've watched them fight six times before or something like that. I've seen her fight once. I will remember her.

So in that sense, she's doing a great job. I don't know how high she goes, but she deserves her spot. Dude, I'm trying to remember who it was. I think I even, yeah. Was it Songwu or whatever? like last week I was like in Slack I was like guys I'm doing my prep work and I did not like I've never seen this guy fight before and apparently I've seen him fight 10 times this is like 11th fight in UFC it's like I could had no idea it is yeah she is the fact that she has personality will help her she has a very good ground game we've been able to see that and there's just not a lot of new blood at 115 so like might be an open pathway in the next few years is people start to kind of leave the weight class. But I also, she was super unproven.

And I didn't learn a lot from the Molly McCann fight other than, yeah, she's a good grappler. Molly McCann retired. So it's tough to take too much away from that. But it is nice to see somebody that I'm at least interested in at this weight class. And I don't know if there's a right answer for this, but did Molly McCann make the right decision? I think I'm on the record. Retiring is always the right to see. decision, you do not make enough money and you suffer a lot of trauma as a professional

fighter, I would recommend every professional fighter retire because they can probably make money doing something else and not jeopardize their long-term health. Molly McCann certainly, if she wanted to keep fighting, I think that that would be fine. But if she is feeling that way, I am one of the few things me and Dana White agree on. If you're thinking about retirement, just retire. You can't half-ass this game. So if you're even thinking about it, hang them up. Agreed.

Agreed. Thank you, RS 40. Thank you, RS 40. Let's get out. I'm going to put this one up there from Sledo. I don't like it. I know what you're talking about. I don't like it Slito, but we're going to put it up there.

I also just don't even think it's right. I know what he's trying to get at, but. So we don't even read it. I was just choosing not to read it. Yeah. Appreciate it. Yeah. Yeah.

You know, I don't think, I think Leon Edwards is a very good striker. He's not a flashier, exciting one and didn't have anything to offer Sean Brady in the way of meaningful offense. But you're, you know, we're allowed to differ our opinions there. All right. And a super chat, a last super chat before we hit the, um, the regular questions. John Ma, Leon said Sean is small, which was concerning. Oh, if Leon said it, that's very funny. Then I, that makes a little more sense for Sean Brady to be like, that be the thing on his mind.

And like, Sean Brady is short. He's not small. I wouldn't be shocked if Sean Brady outweighed Leon. He's a thick boy. He said, what do you say? I'm over 190 or 190 something? I mean, gain like 25 pounds or something. He's a thick boy.

Yeah Slito In response to you Jokes are usually funny And they are also If you're going to send a joke In the written word You should really make it clear

Like that at best was just like A mid joke At best And like Didn't translate that well through text So try again next time buddy Wasn't holding against you We didn't bash you on it

Yeah Just saying eh Wasn't for us Yeah Can't win them off Yeah That Thank you Jama

I did not realize Leon, like, called them small. That does make a little more sense. I still think it's kind of insane, but it does make more sense for him to be a little more miffed if that was like specific trash talk from his opponent. Yeah, not good trash talk. Maybe Sean Brady shouldn't say, I heard people say he should be like,

Leon ain't saying shit about me being too small now. Like, that feels like a specific issue, not a people are saying broad issue. Thank you. Jama. All right. Question from Germain. Also, a sick K.O. at dirty boxing.

That just popped up. Germain, who in the top 10 could Leon beat? Well, I have seen him physically beat Kamar Usman twice, and I think I would probably still pick him to beat Kamar Usman, though wouldn't shock me if Usman beat him. Like, Usman was well on his way to beating him in their second fight. and was at least competitive in the third fight. They're certainly not great.

I think Leon could be Jack Della. I think I was really interested in that fight when it was originally books. How crazy Leon's career path if it's Jack Della tonight and Leon say wins. It's just some... But that's the sport. That is the sport.

That is the sport. I would pick Ian Machado Gary to beat Leon Edwards, but I could also see Leon winning that fight. At this point, I think I would have to favor walking Buckley pretty considerably over Leon because he used to tackle him. And he's also a big thick boy who can just hold you down. He could be Gilbert.

Gilbert's washed, man. I got a ton of respect for what Gilbert's been able to accomplish. He's been doing this forever, though. Leon could definitely beat Gilbert. We saw him beat Colby. I'm just going through the U.C. top 10. And he could beat Jeff Neal. So a lot of the top 10 he could beat.

I also think any of those people could beat him based on his last two performances. But Casey, how do you feel about that? I pretty much agree with what you said. The Buckley one interests me, though. I know if Buckley gets Leon down, he can probably, he's got enough skills to hold him down enough strength. I wonder if he can't actually do it, though, the actual takedown. I'm kind of curious. But the Buckley is the most interesting one to me.

Yeah, I like the Buckley one. I'm really going to be interested in how the UFC treats Leon. Now is Leon that kind of you got to beat Leon if you want to contend for the belt or are they going to put Leon against their one contenders for Leon to get his way back to the bell? I'm more curious about how the UFC is going to look at Leon Edwards. It's really interesting because they have two. two of them now. They have Leon and Camaro who are both champion, like elder statesmen. What do you do with them? Because they're not just going to take any fight, but like they also

are going to have to fight back at this point. I was like they're holding such high rankings now. I suspect that they will be ranked like three and four in the UFC rankings come Tuesday. But maybe even higher than that is possible. So I, it's weird because it's very like very rarely do have two fighters like this. We're like, I don't know. They're both not really close to fighting for a belt right now

and they got a, and they're old and not looking great in their last fights. I think Usman is close to fighting for a belt because one win, at least below something new. But yeah, I don't know what you do with Leon.

I guess Ian Machado Gary maybe. Yeah. That's, uh, yeah, yeah, a bit of a weird spot for Leon Edwards and where he's going to go right now in his career.

really interested to see because a couple of doorways but like he's also not like oh he can try the shift up to middleweight and make a run there it's not really big enough to be a middleweight so yeah i want to do that right uh honestly you know what they'll never do and i'm fine with them not doing i wouldn't hate to see like an isom versus leon fight like that'd be just i'd just be interested in that that would be fun i know you mean yeah they'll never do it and i'm not saying they should or it's a girl but like that would just be an interesting fight to me so but we'll see uh super chat

thanks germain yeah thank you jime sorry thank you jermaine uh super chat just came in we kind of talked about this before but you know w w jett vindicated leon does not have that dog in him he does the dog's just like a chihuahua right like there's some there's some spunk there but it's not it's not like he's not going to dig deep and go out on his shield he's going to shoot a takedown in the third round of a fight he was getting dominated on that's going to age so poorly for him man please submit me please admit me yeah that was that was tough that was the moment where i was like i don't feel this bad for what i said about leon earlier this week after that it was really tough yeah it kind of when i started talking it out loud

it kind of i kind of even felt worse for yeah my position on leon's like god dang i i don't i don't want to I don't want to crap on dudes like that. But like, dude, he's champ forever. Champ forever. He gets to say it. And his career could have easily been not like just one of the saddest cautionary tales of good but not great held out. Like prior to the head kick, it was all a disaster for him of like Jorge won't fight him. The Nate like Tom Foolery getting booted from the rankings because he wouldn't fight.

And then a week later is like fine, I'll fight or whatever. all of like not necessarily doing anything wrong but just bad break after bad break after bad break not particularly being an interesting personality on the mic or whatever and then like 20 minutes of just getting sat on by Kamarro's like well so ends the tale of Leon Edwards and then one of the three greatest knockouts in the history of the sport and forever he forever gets to hold that and defended the belt multiple times and defended it yeah it was that was that It wasn't a fluke. It wasn't a fluke.

He defended it. Yeah. So, legitimate Walterweight champion of the world. He defended his belt. Like, you can't ever say he wasn't. So credit to him,

man. Multiple times. Is, guy, we mentioned Masvidal. I completely forgot about him. Is that back on the table? I thought that was back on the table like last year after he lost.

I thought that would be the perfect comeback fight. Dana seems really not interested in resigning Horri Mosvital, which I don't blame him for. after this fight, I'm like, we should really do that. That's what I mean. It makes it more sense now. Yeah. And it did a year ago.

That's why I kind of, because I kind of forgot about it. But when you mentioned it's like, oh, crap, it does kind of make sense. Yeah. Honestly, I think that would be terrific. It doesn't knock out. It doesn't knock out any number one contenders. It's just a it's honestly a stupid fight that. Leon can win that fight.

Yeah. And it's a stupid fight. And honestly, I'm interested in it. Stupid. I'm interested for no real. There's no real stakes in the division, obviously, but I just kind of want to see it. I think that would be terrific. I think that that is the fight I would book.

If I was on onto the next one tomorrow, that's the fight I do it. I think we figured it out. All right. Thank you, W. Thanks, W. Oh, sorry. Be quiet here, Peter. What we got here?

A few more than we'll get out of here. We'll go in for a little over an hour. Oh, we know way to talk about your boy. My boy, Lonnie Kavanaugh is five the night in my opinion. I would not have had any issue with them being like, hey, Kevin Holland, you're not getting a bonus. And hey, Sean Abandon, you're not getting a bonus because credit to Sean Abandon. She ate the head kick. Pudra just gave her that on bar.

So like, I mean, I'm happy she got her money, but I hate people getting performance bonuses for getting their ass kicked and coming back. Just don't get your ass kicked. It would be better. It would be better. winners is what you're saying i don't like people who get captured that is the official status in case you like i prefer winners uh yeah i would have no issue if they had made that fight and i if i was really fun man um and look i i said it in the uh in the buildup i said it on no bet's barred i ended up putting a fair amount of money on lani cavana he was not my climb

bet this week which i would have been i know somebody who has followed the climb my buddy billy ward who's on No Bet's part occasionally, has followed in the footsteps to do the climb because he also recognized how stupidly fun it is. He did have Lonnie Kavanaugh as his climb bet, and we were talking. He was like, I was stressful as hell, dude. That's a risky one. That's why I didn't do it because, like, these young things can happen. I told him, it was like, I wouldn't do it, but whatever.

And he was like, man, that first round was super stressful. And then the third round, when Desontists was just cheating. Like, that was really not fun. I was like, yeah, man, it wasn't. What do you got to dove? That's what matters. I think Felipe de Santos is like a pretty, he's not like an amazing flyway prospect. He's certainly not nearly the tier of a bunch of these other dudes that we've talked about this week.

Josh Van, Andre Lima, Lonnie Kavanaugh, Ray Saruya, to retire. Like, those guys are world-beater level. Like, those are A plus level. But this dude who's still like 24 and talented. Like you saw it in the cage tonight against a fellow talented thing, a fellow talented prospect like a guy who has ability will probably stick around the UFC

for a good chunk of time Lonnie had a really bad start and he did the thing that you wanted Leon to do or that I wanted Leon to do. First round was bad, went back, his corner was like, hey, you can't just not do anything.

Like you have to try and attack, you have to try and hurt this guy. Immediately came out, put pressure on, started attacking, opened up offense, made it a fight. And Dosanto sort of rose to the occasion as best he could and made it a scrap. So I really like the performance from both of them.

I think that this is a sort of prospect fight you want from a guy like Connie Kavanaugh to have to overcome some adversity, to have to sort of sharpen different tools in his bag, showed the full gamut, still looks incredibly athletic, explosive, talented. I am just as high on Lonnie Kavanaugh as I was coming into this matchup. Yeah, yeah, I like him a lot. I'm glad you kind of bragged about it. him a bit because he wasn't he wasn't really on my radar but um super exciting fighter i don't yeah i don't seem fighting for a title but he could but regardless he's an exciting fighter and um yeah a good

a fantastic addition to the flyweight division yeah like i think in like talking like the super like the sub 25 flyweight he's below i think he's 25 or 24 um like he is below the josh fan Tatsu Retairos, obviously, and Muhammad Mahayevs. But, like, right on par with Andre Lima as sort of a prospect. Zane Simon, I think, is actually the first guy who told me about him. He does, like, a prospect thing on his substack and picked up Lonnie Kavanaugh, and I was reading it. And then so when he fought in Contender Series, I was pretty keyed into him. And yeah, I think he's really good fighter.

And still young. Yeah. And credit to the UFC matchmakers in the fight order, because the fact that they put that flyweight fight right after Tibera Parkin. So those flyweights were like moving like so fast it felt like they were just like light speed

compared to that fight right before. It was a change of dynamic for sure. It threw me off like, whoa. It was just like, wow. Thank you, Masters. All right, we got some Leon haters. So I'm going to put this one up there. Okay.

Let him cook. Yeah. Jacob Waddell, Leon's an embarrassment to the UK fight scene. That seems harsh. He's been fraud checked twice now, also harsh. And that kick on Usman is in question. He doesn't want to be in there. He doesn't want to fight.

He's literally out. I think that this might be a little harsh, Jacob. I think he is how many UK champs are there? There are three British UFC champions in history, and he is the second one of them. I would say based on the level of fighter he was at the time he won the belt

he is much better than Bisping was historically he's not as good a fighter as Bisping but when Bisping won the belt Bisping was well past his prime at that point Bisping obviously a more historically important fighter and Tommy Aspinall I believe is going to be a more historically important fighter than Leon.

I don't think I'm missing it. I think those are the three British UK champs I don't think there's any others if I am wrong somebody please correct me i don't think you can call it fraud checked if you're losing to the current champion and arguably the number one contender i would say that fraud check isn't appropriate there i do i don't think the kick is in question i think that the kick is lucky but a lot of lucky things happen in fights so you know you can't knock him for it he tried to throw it he threw it

it landed and he won. The rest of this, yeah, like, I kind of agree. He didn't really want to be in there. But I wouldn't want to be in there fighting Sean Brady either, frankly. It doesn't seem like a lot of fun, Casey. Yeah. Guy so short. Yeah, geez, you can't see him.

So short and so muscular. This was me picking Leon, like, as soon as the fights started, I was like, I forgot that this year I said I was going to test out a new theory of picking just whoever is fighting and has the bigger lats. they're going to win the fight. This would have been a great fight for that. Like a great fight for that. Thank you, Jacob.

No, thank you, Jacob. You're very mean today. Take a nap. It's okay, Jacob. It's okay. I'm sorry that he's disappointing you and the UK fight fans who didn't want to be disappointed. Speaking of UK. Speaking of UK fight fans.

Masters, Jedd Mustache, now that Leon lost and other UK fighters are on to bigger things, is that a problem for UK fight nights? Who would headline? Yes and no, Casey. I think we talked about this a little in the preview show or BTL. I don't remember which of those we were discussing it in. That this fight night feels worse because it is, you know, like they're just like a lot of the big British fighters are doing stuff.

Tom Aspinall, who headlined a fight night the last time they were in London, he ain't ever fighting on a fight night again. Patty Pimblen is the co-main event at the pay-per-view next week. Like big names with Molly now even retiring, you're losing that bit of juice. So I think the UK definitely need some people to step up here in the next little bit to keep providing some local fan interest to these cards beyond just the UFC coming to town. Yeah. I mean, isn't this kind of a good problem? You know, your UK fighters are so good.

They now they're only on paper views and not, I don't know. I don't think it's a problem. I think it's just something that just is just evolution. It just changes the dynamic. And the thing is, we know that they're willing to do pay-per-views there. And Tom Aspinall, if Tom Aspinall isn't fighting John Jones in Las Vegas, he's probably fighting whoever it is in London. You know, like that's out of pay-per-view, which is fine. So I think that there is some, like, you're probably going to get, just those fight nights may happen,

but they just won't be the same that they were. There'll still be European-based fighters. Nathaniel Wood will show up because he's on every one of these cards or whatever. But Marcyne Tibero will be there, assuming he's still employed by the UFC. But yeah, it would be nice for some, for the next big star to break through, like to come up to give them a little bit of extra pop. Yeah. And UK fans, support your regional scenes, you know, that's what I say. Go, go pay some money.

Go watch your cage warriors or whatever local promotions you got out there. And before we get out of here. Thank you, Masters. I think I saw a couple, I say, I think I saw a couple super chats coming and then we can get out of here. Yeah, two more super chats and we'll get out of here. Leon shooting reminds me, it's from Luis Matarazzo. Leon shooting reminds me of fifth round Gutierrez, Iminari role on song, just broken. Except for an Eminar role is at least cool, right?

Like, it's never going to work, but it's at least fun. Like, you're trying something cool. Not like, oh, he's pressuring me. I'm going to duck my head and do it. a guillotine. Yeah. Which is not cool. Dude, it would have been cool if Leon Edwards went for an M&Rae roll.

Unarri roll? Honestly, like, if he goes through an umanari role, I probably am still like, that was desperate and silly, but at least it was fun and desperate. Yeah. Not enough fighters tried to emanari roll. I forgot the fight. Didn't it like Roy McDonald do that in a high level fight too? 100% he emanari rolled somebody.

Who the hell was it? Oh, my God. Was it robbing? He wasn't getting dominated like that like that, but he just kind of. did one, like mid-fight, like, whoa, it didn't work, but maybe it was a Robbie fight. I don't remember if it was a Robbie fight. I think more people should do it. When I used to grapple a lot, I would pull em in our rolls all the time because they're very silly and incredibly fun.

And there's, they're fun because there's about a half second, maybe a second where you're just kind of upside down. You're just upside down. The world, like all of a sudden, the world's different. And then obviously, the reality comes crashing in. You're like, oh, God, my neck. Your opponent's face like, what the hell is this guy doing? Yeah, what do you do? Oh, shit, he's on my leg.

What the hell? Look at him go. It was Stephen Thompson. Rory did that to Stephen Thompson. Is that what it was? That is who it was. I see a couple other people, or no, it was just Dave Sandine repeating it. Stephen Thompson, 100% right.

That was the best. Thank you, Lewis, for making me, at least bring back these memories of Roy McDonald's Menario Roll. Dave is correct. An Iminari role is cool the first time. When you just spam it a bunch, it's not cool, but it is still really fun when somebody just fires out an Iminari role. Shout out to Aminari, legend of the game.

Oh, my personal note, one of my training partners recently went to Japan and he got to roll with Eminari and he said it was amazing. I'm 100% confident that that is the case. I'm like really sure that Mazakatsu, Eminari is just like a cool dude. just like this is a cool dude just good hanging if he's not nobody tell me

nobody tell me if he's not I don't need that information my life oh great grappler he hates puppies I don't get it now yeah he's like nope I don't need to know it

I don't need to la la la dude when you are like when you're you know a moderately successful MMA fighter and grappler but you get a move named after you that's Pete that means you're an A plus guy

in my book you've done it And our last comment before we get out of here, a bit of positivity. Yeah, we love positivity. Alexander Hurst, Leon done us proud. He's done enough. Union Jack. I think that's what that's called.

But I know that those flags have different. But shout out. Shout out Alexander Hurt. Leon has done enough. All you can ask for a champion or for a fighter is to bring home a title for you. And Leon did it and defended it. if, you know, he never fights with the belt again, nothing wrong with that. He probably goes in the Hall of Fame.

Great career. He's going to go in the Hall of Fame. Not probably. He might not be a first ballot guy, but he's going to get himself in there. And that's it for UFC London, ladies and gentlemen. Thanks for sticking around for the post show. Thanks for sticking with us all week long. If you've been doing that, and certainly if you've been following the coverage,

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