MMA Fighting - UFC Louisville Post-Fight Show: Reaction To Imavov's Controversial Finish, Reyes' Redemption

Episode Date: June 9, 2024

Nassourdine Imavov picked up the biggest win of his career in the main event of UFC Louisville against Jared Cannonier, but it was mired in controversy thanks to referee Jason Herzog stepped in to stop the bout in the fourth round. Where does Imavov go after a victory that will likely propel him into the top-five at 185 pounds? MMA Fighting's Mike Heck, Jed Meshew, and Jose Youngs react to Saturday's Fight Night event, Imavov's victory, Herzog's stoppage, and where both fighters go from the headliner. Additionally, they discuss Dominick Reyes getting his first win since 2019 with a first-round finish of Dustin Jacoby in the co-main event, Raul Rosas Jr. picking up a submission victory in the featured bout, the tough start to the card with the prelims, but the card picking up steam on the main card, and much more. Follow Mike Heck: @MikeHeck_JR Follow Jed Meshew: @JedKMeshew Follow José Youngs: @JoseYoungs Subscribe to MMA Fighting Check out our full video catalog Like MMA Fighting on Facebook Follow on Twitter Read More: http://www.mmafighting.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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They are live, and they sound. For Naserdine Imovov gets the fourth round. round TKO win over Jared Cannonier in the main event of UFC Louisville. But a bit of controversy. Referee Jason Herzog steps in, stops it, and very few people are happy about the stoppage. And we'll talk about that and much more here on the UFC Louisville Post Fight Show. We're live on the M.A. Fighting YouTube channel.

And thank you for joining us. After this event, I am Mike Eck and joining me, Mr. No Gray area, the hot take kid himself, the Baron of Boop, Jed Bishu, who I'm sure has quite the message on his whiteboard. There it is. Why don't you read that for the folks, Jed, who are listening on the pod network? Sean Strickland and Paris, what could go wrong? I didn't know what else look like. All we're going to do is talk about that stoppage.

So honestly, credit to you, Jason Herzog, because otherwise this would have been a light show. Now we can get 30 minutes on that stoppage. So content, baby. Let's go. Yes. I think there's something very cool to talk about from this card, and we'll discuss that a little bit later. But also joining us, Mr. Jose Young's,

live in New York City, got his Boston hat on, ready to go for game two. What's up, Jose? Happy Gaspi Day, everyone. Back in 1772, a bunch of drunkard Islanders lit a boat on fire who started the Revolutionary War today. It's also Gaspi Day. Because we burns the G-G-A-S-P-E G-A-S-P-E Gaspi.

I know you're in the South. Spelling is very difficult, but it's Gaspi. I mean, I was hearing Gatsby because you're from Boston so you can't enunciate for shit. Letter R's don't exist where I'm from. I'm also from Rhode Island. Yeah, it's true. It's all up there. We're all like one big place to use southerners.

It's New England. It is. Guys, I got to tell you, heading into the main card, we were on pace for one of just the worst cards at UFC history. This was bad, real bad. We had some moments. And then the main card comes around. Things ramp up very, very quickly. We get some cool finishes.

We get a knockout of the year contender. We get 19-year-old Raw Rojas Jr. doing his thing. We have a redemption story, which were absolutely. going to discuss a little bit later on. But right now, on the tip of everybody's tongue, on the top of everybody's mind right now, the controversial finish, Jed Michoud. Nasreda Deneimovoff gets the biggest win of his career. By Tuesday, he will likely be a top five middleweight in the UFC's rankings.

This was a weird stoppage, Jed. Watching it live, I was like, eh, not a great stoppage, watching the replay, and then watching clips on social media, the more I watch it, the worst the stoppage looks, and I know Jason Herzog is a tremendous referee. He may be the best in the business right now, but how do you react to this finish? About 15, 20 minutes after it went down in Louisville. It's a bad stoppage.

I think Jason Herzog is the best referee currently going in MMA. Kind of had a tough night, frankly, because we'll talk about it later, but sort of another one of these stoppages, I think he even realized that he probably was like too early on, but then it was like, whatever, we're already here. But this one, like, it's just a bad stoppage. And everybody has a bad night at the office, you know, sometimes just don't bring your A game.

But there were times when this stoppage would have been more palatable. Casey and I were talking about this offline. At multiple points, Jared Canadiere does, frankly, like, turn around and run away, which is an effective form of defense, but like one that is actually pretty aggressively prescribed against in the rulebook like you are not supposed to do that and so if he had jumped in there i'm like hey this guy is stumbling away we're going to call it i'd have a little more appetite for it but by the time he does stop it imov has not put enough weight on and so canineer is kind of getting his legs back he has just thrown a hook at the point that herzog steps in so it's just an objectively

bad stoppage and the thing about this stoppage is that it's kind of kind of one of the worst ones because, like, there are tears of stoppages, right? And this one is one that there's no satisfactory resolution to. Like, for other stoppages, we won't care because, you know, okay, this was a bad stoppage on a prelim fight between two people on four fight losing streaks or whatever. Like, that means something to them, but in the grand tapestry of MMA that doesn't mean as much. This is a main event fighter. This is a 40-year-old Jerry a canada year is on a winning streak and trying to get back to the title and he doesn't quite get rod because again, I don't ultimately think this changes the outcome of the fight. I had

Imovov up. I know the judges actually didn't, but I thought Imov was pretty well in his way, particularly if he didn't get the finish immediately, he was going to have taken such a lead in this fight that he probably gets the decision if it doesn't get a stoppage. So ultimately kind of doesn't change that. But Canadiere can feel robbed here. there will be no resolution because it's not a bad enough stoppage to warrant an immediate rematch or an overturning of this but it's a bad stoppage nonetheless and so it's it really threads the needle for like the most unsatisfying way that this could have ended particularly if you're jared can in the year so it's tough for him that sucks uh but also that was a dope

right hand from nostrini imov so that was pretty cool it was a really really good shot that started the whole thing off and I don't want to lose sight of that either. What did you think, Jose? I think the toughest part of the stoppage was, as Jed alluded to, Canadir was badly hurt. And if Herzog had stepped in maybe seven or eight seconds before he actually stopped it, I don't think it would have been as bad, but then Canaaner lands the right hook. He didn't just throw it.

He hits Imovov off with that right hook. Imovov returns with a couple of punches, but nothing that was too violent on his end. and then Herzog just steps in and stops it, and Canaanair seemed like he had his wits to him as he argued this stoppage. What did you think of it? Yeah, it was just, I think it's, I mean, you guys said everything that, I don't need to rehash anything you guys said.

Like, it just, if he had stopped at 30 seconds, like three, four seconds earlier, it probably would have been fine. If it had lasted three, four seconds longer, it would have been worse. It's just the timing of it wasn't optimal because now we have this controversy. because like Jed said, anytime this, the image of a fighter turning his back and sprinting away from his opponent after getting rocked is not ideal. And that's pretty much the beginning of the end. I was surprised that there were actually a couple of Jared's fellow fighters that agreed with the stoppage. Chris Curtis, O'Day Osborne.

I think Miles Johns, they all said, you know, what do you guys want? Do you want like you guys just bloodlust and everything like that? You want to see fighters just go to sleep. And I go, I understand, like, I understand protect fighters at all time, but Jared, I mean, even the broadcast said it. Jared's arms are going up to block and he threw that hook or whatever punch it was. So I've seen way worse and I've seen way better. This is just if there's like a scale one to ten, it's like leaning towards the bad. But it's not all the way bad.

It's not great, though. It's definitely not great. Yeah. Of all the officiating that happened tonight, including the. judges this is probably like the fourth worst thing that happened yeah that's a good point honestly what sound like some of the scorecards we saw but yeah big win for imovov jed doesn't change anything can they could try to battle it out with the kentucky commission or whoever is running the show down there nothing's going to happen this is going to stand as a fourth round tkao

win for nassadine imov and like i said at the beginning he's going to be a top five middleweight at the end of this so how big of a win is this i know canadaer has been out for a year year he's 40 guys fought for a belt but he's also been the name that is left out of all of these championship conversations we just sort of have forgotten about him for the past year how big of a win is this for nassadine imov i mean it's a huge win for him structurally because it will in the ufc's rankings he will i assume move up to number four because they are almost always you just bump in front of the dude you beat maybe that that'll change for Imov because I'm trying to think who...

Let me pull up and look at the rankings. No, it won't change, actually. He doesn't have any losses to anybody that would jump in front of him. So he'll just move to number four. He will be right behind Robert Whitaker as far as the U.S. is concerned numerically for middleweight title rankings. I mean, that's huge for him. Maybe he will have to fight back.

I know he called out Sean Strickland. That doesn't really seem likely, though I wouldn't say that it's a zero percent chance, but I don't think it is likely. So maybe he has to fight back and defend. But like if you're just a top five dude, you can get a title shot. Like that can just happen because somebody falls out and hey, you've got the highest number next to you.

And so we can put that on a poster. So this is, it's the biggest one of his career. It's unfortunate that it came in this fashion, particularly because Casey noted this offline, so I don't want to steal his thing. But, you know, also a very real. possibility he got denied the chance to get a bonus there because he's not going to get a knockout or performance bonus for that finish and maybe he would have gotten it like you know canon here

was still in a really bad way even if i think he was fighting back so still an unbelievable win for him and kind of launches him up to very like at worst he is in the conversation and at best he's one fight away from fighting for a belt so it's huge room Jose, obviously, Jed will be joining me on to the next one tomorrow, AK kind of put him in that spot. So we'll do some matchmaking here. National Teamovov calls out Sean Strickland. They have fought already.

Sean Strickland fought him of off on like a week's notice. They fought at 205 and Sean Strickland won that fight pretty handily. Call them off for Paris. Don't think Sean Strickland's going to Paris. No. Don't love the call, but I mean, it doesn't really change a whole lot because it's just a weird division right now, considering this is part of this sort of mini-ground-pre that's going on,

and it all kind of leans on June 22nd in Saudi Arabia, Hamzaa-Chimae versus Robert Whitaker is the big one here. Where does the Ivovah go from here? Who would you like to see him fight next? What does this win do for him in terms of who he could be in there with next? I mean, a win is a win in the Middle-Aid division. It's been the most active division in terms of main events this year, and I don't think that's changing anytime soon.

Who should he fight next? because the decision is so so murky that I'm not even comfortable giving him the loser of like because the winner of Whitaker and Hamzot could very well fight for the title next assuming Israel fights Drieca's Duplice in Perth or whatever that is in August and then Sean Strickland's sitting out for a title shot. Paulo Cost is coming off a loss. I think I think Jared Canyar should fight Paulo Costs. I've ever want to see that fight for a while.

That could just be all kinds of fun. or incredibly boring, and I'm here for either. Just going to be a wacky fight. I know Jack Hermanson called out Naserdin at one point, but I feel like Jack is a little further back in the rankings now, especially with Nasardine's big win. The Ickram fight would be a lot of fun, but Icrum is fighting a guy that is unranked.

I think if Icrum had been an Andre Munez, his original opponent, that would have been a very fun fight to watch, especially in the Paris card. Who else is there? Brennan Allen is floating around out there. Marvin Vittori is he's hurt right He was supposed to fight Brandon Allen And then Chris Curtis replaced him

You could do the Marvittory fight Because Jared beat Marvin so And Naserdin just beat Jared So you could do the you know Match those two up Delizade does he have a fight Just off the top of my head I can't think of anything off the time of head

I know I know he got a little banged up against Naserdine I guess he can't fight Deletzee He just fought you just beat him He just yeah he just beat him So I guess I would say Brennan Allen, Iqram, or who's the other guy said?

Or Jack Hermanson, something like that. It's like the victory is too murky. It's so undecisive to kind of warrants this number one contender fight against a Hamzot or a Whitaker or a Strickland. I think he's like one win away. Also, like what is, because I was talking with someone of this via text because they were asking me about Imavala. What is his signature?

What is his signature win, like his signature performance against a highly ranked guy? Because the Shabazzian fight seems to be the one that kind of put him on the map. But that win hasn't aged especially well. And then outside of that. That was it, though. Yeah. Before this one, yeah. Before him it was Shabazzian.

Now it's just the clip of the right hand that's really clean. And then they just cut away from it. Don't show the end of it. Right. Exactly. They act like that right hand knocked him out and it's done. Like did he with all Apollo Costas highlights. It just cuts to, someone just splices in Jared tumbling over from a Robert Whitaker head kick.

And he goes, yeah, that's what happened. And then Imovov going, ah. It just feels like Imovov needs an actual signature win that's not controversial or short notice. Because even the Roman deletes that had a lot of weird stuff, the Chris Curtis had a headbutt. It's just something weird always happens with Imov. And I think he needs one more big signature. inch or win before he can even discuss a number one contender fight for him. Support for this show comes from Volkswagen.

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have tweeted similar numbers. The attendance for this event. For this card, 19,578, 2.5 million dollar gate. It is the highest grossing sporting event in KFC Yum Center history. I don't think that's a surprise. But it is also now the highest grossing U.S. UFC fight night of all time. This is insane with this card. It's insane.

I don't think it's that big of a deal. Because if I make a ticket for 2.6. million dollars and one person buys it that's a 2.6 million dollar gate i just happened to sell one ticket like inflation with ticket sales doesn't doesn't do anything for me plus when's the last time we were looking at it we were looking at it before during the the pre-fight show there's probably a thousand tickets still available and they were at they started at 70 bucks 69 dollars you could have gone up to the door yeah they got into it a lot of you have say chance louisville is an underrated city and America. They got a lot of history.

It's just people never maybe it's a destination for people outside of the Kentucky Derby and the Muhammad Ali stuff, but I've never wanted to go to Louisville ever outside of the woman. It's just kind of like on the way to a bunch of stuff. Yeah. But it's like it's a good place to stop over if you're traveling. Yeah, like go see the Louisville slugger like

manufacturing. It's like the bourbon capital of that area. Muhammad Ali's grave site and museum is there. the Kentucky Derby stuff is there, which I still don't quite understand the appeal. But like, as I'm saying this, I'm like, is there, is Louisville fun? Like, I don't get it. I don't. It's never been on my radar. Look, they were, the crowd was lively tonight.

And you know that they're a good crowd when they pop for Jared Canonnierer before you even hit the arena. Like, they were losing their minds for Jared Canaanier. I honestly was like, does he have a connection to Louisville that I need to go see? Is he secretly from Louisville? Because what the hell is going on? But they're just USA, baby. Louisville just hates him. They loved Raul Roses Jr. in Louisville.

I mean, huge Roller Roses Jr. fans. Speaking of Raul Roses Jr., one of four performance of the night bonuses. Have you guys seen this yet? Have you seen the bonuses? No, but it can't be that. All right. Roses is one. All right.

Let's see. Let's see. I mean, what do you guys do? Carlis parade test out of one. Like, that was disgusting. I assume Dominic Reyes gets one because, you know, that was dope. I would assume, well, what are we even doing here?

I mean, oh, it's crazy. Brouff, Baroferr is for sure getting one. There's no world in which he's not getting one. And then the fourth should be Dominic Reyes because come gone. It's not. It's a guy whose name starts with an R and has four letters ends with any.

Yeah, Zachrese gets the other bonus. It's 22nd knockout of Julian Marquez. How do I guess it's 20 second, but like, come on. It's Dom Reyes, baby. Let's come on. Yes. Well, we're going to spend a lot of time. We're going to spend some time talking about Dominic Grace right now because how do you spell redemption, Jed?

R. E.Y. E.S. Dominic Reyes, first win in 1,965 days. UFC boss. An 18, a rare Friday night. card in Bean Town. Dominic Reyes stops Chris Widman in the first round in Wydenman's debut at 205

pounds. And boy, oh boy, Dominic Reyes coming off four losses in a row, three bad stoppage losses. And I think the M-May community is a collective. We're just like, man, like we're not rooting for Dominic Reyes to win, but it's just like, this guy like deserves to win a friggin fight.

You know, and it was just everything just kind of line up, beautifully, Jed goes in there. He looks sharp. He's hitting Dustin Jacoby. Jacoby's starting to land some shots. And then we see Reyes hit Jacobi with the big shot. Jacoby starts backing up. He's on wobbly legs. And I'm just like, oh my God, this might be happening. And then Jacobi falls down and gets back up and Reyes just land a bunch of shots. Referee steps in, stops the fight. And he does it. Dominic Reyes did it, Jed Beshu. Dominic Reyes did it. This is unbelievable. Almost 2,000 days between victories, Dominic Reyes, back in the win,

column your reaction. It was awesome, man. I talked about this on the preview show. I don't have like an emotional connection to Dominic Reyes. It's not like Dominic Reyes is one of my favorite fighters or anything like that. There are fighters that I love and that I'm connected to, and you probably know many of them pretty clear about kind of where my allegiances are. Reyes is not one of those dudes. And yet had, like, I probably wanted him to win this fight more than I've really wanted any person that I am a fan of to win a fight. Not because I like Dominic Reyes, but because he just needed it. Like I needed him to have a good thing happen to him because he beat John Jones.

People with eyeballs saw him beat John Jones and that was taken away from him. And then after that, when John leaves, he is supposed to be the guy. He's okay, you don't get it, but like with Johnny Hendricks versus George St. Pierre, he didn't get it, but you still get the belt afterwards because here's, we're going to get you there. But he couldn't do it. And so Johnny Hendricks gets to be a champion forever. And Dominic Reyes does not. And he's been on this big losing streak. And it has been heartbreaking to watch a man who should be forever known as the Buster Douglas of MMA or whatever go down this path.

And so I just wanted to win for him. because he needed it to happen. And you could see in his face in his post-flight interview, he couldn't really put thoughts together that well because it was just such a burden lifted from him to finally get back here. And so it was awesome. I was really, really happy for him.

I like Dustin Jacoby. I'm sorry he had to be the one. But I'm glad someone lost to Dominic Reyes and that his career was not, it will always be defined by the John Jones fight in some respects. But that that's not the last and final word on Dominic Graz. He gets to have a continuing career and legacy in this sport. And I think that's wonderful.

What did you think about it, Jose? Because Dominic Grace is a guy who, since the John Jones fight, has always seemed to come into fight weeks with a lot of pressure on him, always being asked about the John Jones thing, trying to relive that moment of the referees kind of getting, or the judges getting things wrong, could have been the champion, what could have been, all of that. And now the reflection,

on Dominic Reyes is something that he sort of echoed in his post-fight interview. He had fun. They grinded away. He enjoyed the experience. And whatever was supposed to happen was going to happen. He was happy and smiling. We haven't really seen that from Dominic Reyes since probably since the John Jones fight heading into the John Jones fight seems refreshed, seems back, and seems like he took a lot

of pressure off himself to just go in there and do the thing and just have fun. What did you make of Reyes' sort of approach heading into this fight? how he competed and everything he had to say in the aftermath. I actually think he seems in very high spirits for his loss to Ryan Span because that's when he went to train with Glover and Alex Pereira in Connecticut. And I remember after his media day because I was an MSG fight in New York, he was really happy. He was joking around and everyone was like,

oh, you know, Dom Reyes is having fun again. Looks like he's back. And, you know, Ryan Span came in a little overweight and Ryan Span was like real doing Ryan Span things and being like a little socially awkward and not wanted to talk to anyone and Dom Reyes is cracking jokes and people like oh maybe maybe this maybe the fun loving Dom Reyes is back and he'll put on the performance against Ryan Spann after training and Glover and Alex and then Dom Reyes got knocked dead so I don't put a whole lot of stakes into fighters mindsets going into the fight because it felt like the same thing we talked

with Dom Reyes this week was what we talked about Dom Reyes the last time I just think this was a perfect matchup for Dustin Jacoby. For Dustin Jacoby was a perfect matchup for Dominic Reyes. And I think it was beautiful matchmaking because this fight was never going to be boring. Both fighters get hit a lot. I said this fight card was going to be, was filled with matchups of guys that are, that get got and guys that are going to get you. And this was a perfect combination of that.

I thought someone was going to sleep. I didn't know who it was because I agree, he beat John Jones. and then he lost to Janbovich, and then he had one of the crazy performance ever against a year per Haska. Those are three former champions, former light heavyweight champions, who are some of the best fighters that division has ever seen. Dom Reyes just happened to be, you know,

the third or fifth best light heavyweight in the world at that time. And then Ryan Span, I don't care who you are. Ryan Span punches you between the eyes. Your senses aren't going to be there much longer. And like you said, Mike, Dustin Jacobi was having a lot of success. and then Dominic Reyes had that beautiful signature like counter left, the one that he landed against Chris Wyman, put him on wobbly legs,

land to the knee, knocked him out. Beautiful performance. I want to see where he goes from here. I want to see him fight Anthony Smith. Both guys have talked about that for a very long time. They're both finally coming off of wins after being on long losing streaks. That's the fight. I want them to headline a fight night, Dom Reyes, Anthony Smith.

I think that's the fight to make. Again, once someone's going to sleep, either by choke or by knockout, fun, fun, exciting fight. I just want to see where Dom goes from here. I'm tired of talking about Dom Reyes' back because I don't think he ever went away. He just fought really high-level competition. Yeah, spoiler. That's where I'm going on to the next one.

Dominic Gray's Christine Spitt. They had that weird beef for a while, remember? Yeah, which is weird. because Dominic Grace doesn't seem like a guy who has... Even Anthony Smith was like... I don't know... I remember talking about Anthony Smith. He's like, I don't understand where this started,

but like, I'll fight the dude if he gets a win. And now they're both have wins. So let's finally get it over. How about that? That was the first time Dustin Jacoby had been stopped in mixed martial arts fight via strikes in a little under a decade since 2014, King Moe at Bellator 123. was the last fighter to stop Dustin Jacoby via strikes in a mixed martial arts bout.

So, great win for Dominic Reyes. Last one on this. Is Joseph Jacobi lost four or five now? Something like that. I know he lost five. I think he had lost three or four coming into this. So yeah. Yeah, it is four of five.

I thought he beat Cleo Roundtree, if we're being honest. It is what it is. He lost to Merzikonov is really good. He beat Kennedy and Chuku, lost him in field, which I don't think that loss is going to age tremendously and then gets knocked up by Dominic Reyes. So yeah, it's a up and down thing this mixed martial arts is. And he's kind of a tough stretch for us. He's been incredibly active too.

He fights like two, three times a year. Yeah. So I don't think he's going anywhere. I would completely agree. And it's just a bar in wasteland. That's true. Yeah. That's true.

Good win for Walrocious Jr. Against Ricky Terseus. People really hated Ricky Terseos. F you, Ricky Chance going down. Ricky, you know, Rollo was going for the fist bump. Ricky says FU to him and then throws a kick at him. And then it looks like pretty Ricky was going to maybe submit Raul Roses Jr.

late in that first round. But Rollo battles through. Just kind of hosses him in round two, gets it done. Bruno Ferreira with the spinning elbow, definitely in contention, at least at this point for Kio of the year, Zach Reese with a 22nd boop, Jed, of Julian Marquez. Pune Soriano looked real good in his welterweight debut.

He beat the soul out of Miguel Baezza for 15 minutes, getting a couple of 30, 25s on the card. Ludwig Klein just keeps getting better and better. What a win over Tiago Moises. Carlos Projus is nasty. Gets the first finish of the night. We needed this one badly against good old Chuck Buffalo, that knee to the liver.

So nasty. Brad Cotonin did Brad Citona things. Montana de la Roast did Montana. tenta della rosa things dania marcos john castaneda good solid scrap marcos is really really good denisi goams gets the upset win over edward amora taylor taler lapilus looked real good dominates cody stamens and puja tomar gets the victory in her ufc debut against ryan amanda not a lot of people loved that scorecard i was one of the seven yeah it's tough tough there are a couple of those tonight, dueling 3027s.

But that was, I was like, oh boy, we could be in for one. We were doing some stuff out there tonight. We certainly were. We certainly were. So that's UFC Louisville. Let's bring in Casey. I'm sure the peeps have lots of things to say about the festivities that took place at the KFC.

The prelims were so bad. So bad. They were so bad. And I missed, I missed the entire Denisego visit Wardomorra because I watched Sarah Savannah Marshall in PFL and I came back and was like we're this is still terrible

what's happening come on somebody do something yeah it was tough some fun with stats here let me pull it up Eduardo Mora in the fight five of

26 takedown attempts I like it's sick to the game six It was crazy. She got outstruck 137 to 27. And then when they read the card, she was like, what? I lost?

How did I lose? Craziness. I mean, she only lost the splitty. Also, whoever booked Brad Katona immediately after Montana de la Rosa Andrea Lee, like, you got to do better than that, man. You know what's going to happen. You know what's going to happen. That was a 30-minute, Jess.

Oh, come on. I thought Taylor, I know it's a decision, but I thought Taylor, Taylor Lapilus looks really good. Actually, I was really impressed. I thought, I don't know, I thought, I don't know, I don't say he's a top 10 guy or anything like that, but I was just like, oh, this, I was just really impressed by him, me. Perfect game plan.

Perfect game plan, yeah. It might be, yeah. He's a perfectly quality fighter. Yeah. It's a dude who's going to hang around and fight on every Paris card forever. Yeah, I just, I like that. All right, let's see what we got here. With Amex Platinum, $400 in annual credits for travel and dining

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Product availability varies by region. See app for details. Age 45, Yumaa striking skills are underrated. He did to Jared what Izzy was supposed to do against him. loser of Hamzaa Whitaker makes sense next. Maybe. I don't think it happens, but maybe. I don't care for most of that.

Explain. Why? I mean, he's a, I don't think, I think he's a fine striker. I don't think people are under overrating. He's just, he's fine. That right hand is really nifty. And I liked hearing him say that, like, yeah, we saw that he would do these stepping jabs and to leave his, leave his arm a little out there.

And so the plan was to try and find this. counter of the top. I think that's great. It's good, it's good MMA way to study and take advantage of weaknesses, but like he's not the best, like he's not one of the five best strikers in this division probably. I mean, I guess Izzy was supposed to do that to Jared, but Jared didn't fight the same way against Izzy. And Izzy is never going to get outside of what he is, if you were just

going to let him win in third gear, he will live in third gear forever. And that was deeply frustrating. And I still paying him for it. But like he's just, that's just the realities we live in. And yeah, no to that fight.

I don't. Let's not do that fight. I mean, that's why I hate the stoppage so much. I don't even think it was that bad at stoppage. But the main thing, it's just kind of the momentum is gone from email. Even though it should be the biggest win of his career,

we're not talking about that at all. And that's the unfortunate thing about the stoppage. So, dang you, Jason Herzog. I tend to come down on the side of, uh, because we're like, wait, he has no highlight. Just really let him beat the hell out of people in there. Because like, in my perfect world, corners would be far more proactive in stopping fights. And so refs would really be a last resort and not like, okay, I'm going to insert myself here. It's odd to because I feel like, I'm like, Jose, what do you think?

In boxing, that's kind of a normal stoppage, I feel. Yes. Unless it's for the heavyweight championship of the world in Saudi Arabia. Yes. Tyson Fury was unconscious. And they let him fight through. But yeah, boxing has a lot of... Especially when promoters pick referees

because they know some referees will let fights go longer and some referees are quick on the draw. Like it gets a little kind of political there too, but yes, referees will... I've seen way worse. stoppages in boxing and have had no problem with them. A, because boxing has the standing eight count

which is just such a game changer. Because if that keeps happening, then you just got to stop the fight. All right. Thank you much. Got a super chat from our good friend, Terrence at Leverett. Terence.

You really feel bad for Canaaner. Speaking of which, we'll lead join. Q and Annanier. Q and Nair. Oh, tchay, Terrence, chishay. Speaking King, it's just there's a lot of grammatical issues here, so I'm just trying to figure it out. Speaking of which, will Lee join Kelly on the UFC roster tracker next week, positive vibes only.

Yeah, I mean, look, I said heading in that the fight with the most stakes to it on this entire card was Montana Dela Rosa versus Andrew Lee, because this was essentially. the pink slip fight on the card, in my opinion. And Andrea Lee has lost now five in a row. And she's not like this huge star or anything like that. She is a name and she's a veteran, but she's already fought like everybody up and coming at this point. So I kind of feel like the answer to this question, at least for me, is yes.

But who the hell knows at this point? Jed, do you agree? Five in a row and eight of ten. She has won two of her previous ten fights. You just don't need to be employed by the UFC at that number. Why is Andrew Lee like a name? Like why did she become? Like when she always gets these fights against people that are like prospects or like other veterans,

but like I can't think of a performance where she all of a sudden became like a Neil Magley type figure of the division. You should get to headline event sometime? I don't think she's ever made evented. no then I have no idea like I know she'd be Antonita Shevchenko and that was a great

that win and the Calvio win were like okay those were her last doing stuff yeah those were the last ones and I guess

those are only two finishes the UFC and I know she's had a lot of split decisions like the Lauren Murphy decision in Dallas was not great

or Houston I don't say like that was a I always put her into like the same category as like Courtney Casey or like Angela Hill where they get these big names and then they lose split decisions where a lot of people think they win. Does that make sense? Yeah. I thought she, I thought she beat Macy Bauer. So that I scored it for Andrea Lee.

So that was a tough one. Like think about where the division is now and like where Macy is now. They had scored that for Andrea. It's totally. I also thought Miranda Maverick. Macy Barber I thought Andrew Lee beat Lauren Murphy and then you know more than got a title fight after it

or maybe a number one contender fight after that Yeah so I think I think is why she's yeah she's been right there But just yeah She also had some semi-famous stuff happen outside of the cage Yeah that's true you know yeah that was very Up to profile Yeah, yep All right

But yeah five in a row It's not a good place to be It's pretty tough Gotta close out the trilogy though I had no Trilogy Trilogy It'll be

It'll add to the list of trilogy Fights where no fight was ever for a title So like Adrian is definitely going to be KFC Right Like that's 100% Where she's going next She'd go to karate combat

She has a karate battle Oh And I guess karate combat I forget that that's like They're going to be a player For the next like nine Like nine months Until they go back

Crosse or whatever She was like she is an amateur moitai and kickboxing champion. So her skills would most likely want to include. I was informed that the woman Savannah Marshall fought was a kickboxing world champion. And so I'm starting to not believe that as a statement. That statement has all the weight of high school wrestler to me at this juncture. Vigin's not telling me about them. They ain't real.

She could go to PFL. They need flyweight. They need women's flyweight. They're bad. No, they're doing fine. They've got boxers. They're doing fine. They get some. I mean, Dakota Chavez got to fight somebody competitive at some point.

Well, it's fine. Dakota's next fight, she will have a tough, she will have a very tough fight, her next fight. We'll see. They're still going to, the Thrander Lee in the tournament just at the top. Liz Carmuchel winner next fight but not make the playoffs. It's going to be one of those things. That will be the funniest thing. It's going to happen.

All right. Super chat from left lane, M.MA. Got the Mbuff pick right, so eight and six on picks. There you go. Congrats. I think all of us picked Eamov. I for sure picked Teammovoff.

I picked Jared Canaaner after his walkout. It was good walk. They both had good walkout. I liked both of their walkouts. They were fun. I was also 8 and 6 left lane. I didn't believe in Dom Reyes. I don't even pick fights.

I'm not part of the Tapology league. I was also 8 and 6. I mean, I got the last four correct. You can always join if you want to pick fights, Jose. We'd love to have you. Yeah. It's against my moral code. Hey, I got, and I got you move off fourth round K.O.

You're a sicko. Yeah, I know. me and herzog were like I did get Dominic Reyes first round K.L. So I was pretty pretty stoked about that one. I was confident in Reyes. I didn't I wait super impressive wind. How?

Because how can you be confident in this man? Because I don't think he sucks yet. I agree that he doesn't suck but like I had no confidence in him. I had confidence. I confidence. I believe him.

Also like a terrific win. I don't love how. like gunshot he was immediately. That doesn't bode well for future but it doesn't matter. He got the win tonight. That's what matters. That's what matters. Confidence that a sky has.

He just knocked out a glory kickboxer. He just knocked He just not. It sure did. Second strongest base in M.MA. Behind being a

hoss slash world's strongest man. Yes. God. That's clear like, That's the best thing that happened in the weekend, and it's not even false. Yeah. I got so many texts from people I haven't talked to in forever about that fight more than anything else,

the freaking Eddie Hall fight. Sheen and I were talking about this yesterday. Like a couple of times this year, I've just been working on a Friday and it's been dead. And then some insane MMA organization does something awesome. And we had to spend the rest of the day like watching a five on one fight for free on YouTube. or watch Eddie Hall power bomb a man

and then send him to the shadow realm. And then I didn't realize it until like 18 times later, they restart that fight. After they get the dead guy out of the cage, they start Eddie Hall versus the small man one-on-one, and then he obliterates him too. It's the best.

It was so much fun. Wait, so when you do a 2-1 match and you kill one of them. When one guy goes down, you still get to go one-on-one. Oh, man. The other guy's like, he just, that might suck for the other guy. Like, ugh. They're deeply funny.

And he just kind of like runs into him. He falls over and he just covers up and waits for the referee to stop it. Like, he very clearly is aware what's happening once it's one v-one. You guys should watch the press commerce, the pre-fight press conference after this. It's, it is great. I mean, I would now. I didn't know this was happening until like midday Friday. The press got,

because they were like two DJ twins or whatever. And Eddie Hall had like his big water bottle that he cares around with him. And he's like answering question. And one of the twins just stands that walks over and just takes his water bottle and starts drinking it. And he's like, I own your water bottle. And then I'm going to own you on set on Friday. And Eddie Hall is like so flumvick by what is transpiring.

He's like, what? Like, because like who does how they faced off. They faced off with one of the twins was sitting on the other one's shoulders so they could look at E. Hall in the eyes. And they openly slapped Eddie Hall in the face and that Eddie all just shoved him off the top of his brother. Oh my God. It's the best.

Oh, you're so unreal. If you guys haven't seen it, go to M-Fighton.com, great website clips, clips and input. It's hilarious. It's hilarious. freaking puds after and immediately in my top five fights. Like immediately in the top five fights I need to see. I love that. Do it in the stadium, KSW.

He boxed the mountain too. He did. That was like less fun because like the mountain kind of learned how to really box. And Eddie like learned out of sort of box. Yeah. And also the mountains like younger and clearly bigger and more athletic. But it was still fun. Six and nine.

Anyway. Jeremy, thank you. Who should cannonear fight next? I feel like he tells a lot of gas left in the tank. Looks great for 40. Also great to see Reyes get a win. I agree with that. Icramal Scarf is going to win decisively next week,

so that will be my choice. I like the proclos to fight. I like that. Both coming off of losses. He beats Strickland, Jared beat Sean. It's kind of like a little triangle. They both had their shots against Israel. They're both on the, like, the Jared's, I don't know how old Paulo is,

but they're both veterans of the game. They've just never been matched up. I like that fight. I like that. Do you put cannonear on the, I don't know, we want to call it, prospect kind of list where, like, if you want to be a top 10 middleweight, you got to be Jared Karenir, that type of list. I would.

I can't think of any names right now for some reason, but, like, you know, guys. he loses one in a lot problem because anytime you fought for a title and then he hasn't lost multiple in a row yet I think if you beats a palo or an ikram then he's right back there in contention but if he drops another one then he's going to fall into that gatekeeper status yeah yeah I was gonna say just I don't know I don't I kind of I was like I was just throw a guy like Zach Reese Zach Reese versus Cananier no that's that's way big but like Michelle Beheada or Kyle Barrello just sort of deserve or Michelle Pereer like right there.

Like, they deserve a kickup like that, but I just wouldn't do it because I feel bad that Kennedy got like a little bit screwed. Like if he had just lost clean, then I would throw him to Michelle Paharan and be like, whatever. That's your job now, man. But since like the way it went down, I'm, I'm okay with the cost of fight. Like, yeah, let these two dudes have it. It's fine.

Loser becomes big people. Yeah. Perey can fight Jackermanston in the meantime or whatever. Um, Akita's Jr. for super chat. Super chat. Super chat. All right. Great super chat.

Nice. Respect. Respect. Big if true. Big if true. Uh, I have to, I got a quality check these things. We're getting some weird ones.

So I don't want to throw everything. I can't throw all your. Some of these, hey guys, some of these super chats, even though you're paying for them, I'm not going to throw them on the screen just because you pay for him. Just want to say heads up to you guys. Oh, boy. Keep your language happy. Michael. Yeah.

I, like Jed, needed Dom to win for my soul. If Reyes gets Smith fight, how specifically will Smith then aggressively discredit Dom's skills? It's going to happen. It's going to happen. I don't know how he'll do it, but. When was that beef? I don't even remember that at all. It was back when I think it was after the Jan Blahovic loss.

Anthony Smith was winning and Dobb was losing, so they were kind of on different trajectories. And they had both lost to John, so people were kind of trying to matchmake them. And if I remember correctly, Anthony Smith said, I'm down to fight Dom. He just needs to get a win. And then Dom took that personally because fighters are sensitive,

bunch of individuals and they're like Anthony was even like I don't know where this why this is happening but like I'm down to fight I'm super done to fight because then he did they were both on the desk

for I think it was when John fought Cyril because they had a bunch of John's old opponents to do like a panel on like the SPN desk so it was like Rashad and Anthony Smith and Dom Rez and I can't maybe someone else I can't quite remember

but Anthony Smith after it was someone asked him like, was it weird being on the desk with Dom? And he was like a little bit because I just didn't know where we stood. I don't know if we were still beefing or not. But now it's the time to make it, make the fight. Yeah, agreed. Okay. Thank you much.

Or the loser of Olberg and Jamal Hill because I know Oldberg has been wanting to fight Dom. Dude, that's tough. Well, he got a much bigger fight, so Ludwig Klein versus the Mictabek-de-Beck Oralby would be sick. Yeah, I'd watch that. It is, it's just, that feels like, that feels like that's mean to Lovit. Like, this man's on an unbelievable streak right now, just beat like the guy who's like fringe top 15.

He's the guy to get into that. And then you're giving him the unranked monster is just a tough. Oral by is going to be like Akram where you at some point you're just going to have to give him a highly ranked guy because no one's going to want to like Tiago Moise. Because like Oral Ba is coming off winds over like Udo Smedich and Elvis Brenner who are both very good fighters. Very elite prospects. Those two again. Those two are going to be tough matchmaking. I do like Grant Dawson or I would do CDF for Klein.

Someone said in the chat. I saw someone said Jalen Turner because Jalen's lost three or four. Don't hate that. Jalen Turner's going to Welto-Wayette. Come on. I'm manifesting the Jalen Turner well-to-weight run here. Also, I routinely mistake Udoz Mettich and Lodovic Kline because I interviewed them days apart and they look exactly the same. And Jalen's already beaten Udoz Mett.

So he might as well fight Lodovic Kline because they're the same person. Very different type of fighters too. I just need Jailen's already. willing to go up to Walterway. Then I can believe in him again. Michael says light heavyweight could use cannon air. Agree. Do we agree with this?

Why heavyweight could move up to two of them? White heavyweight could use a bullet in the head. That division is god awful. It's so bad, man. And also, Canon Air honestly, like, I know he was a heavyweight. He is not, like, he was easily dwarfed by Imova. He is not big enough to be like heavy weight.

I don't think he should go. It's a little too small. Yeah. A little too small. Just hang out in the way, fight dudes. He's a disciplined guy too. So he walks, he doesn't walk around like super heavy. Like he's, he's one of those guys that's in shape all the time, ready to go.

Theron's thoughts on this UFC behind the scenes, they bullied Aljo hard. Is that a broku thing? I haven't either. I want to do it. They were promoting on the broadcast. It is very interesting because it shows a lot of the behind the steam stuff. It is also very like a lot of that has to be staged.

So much of that. Like just bad acting. It looks staged in the trailers. Yeah. If it's produced by the, deeply propaganda. Exactly. If it's produced by the UFC, it's not a documentary people.

Like just like embedded is not a documentary. It's not embedded. Everything's promotional. Are you telling me the bachelor's not a documentary? I don't believe you. Like the scene when Hunter and Dana are telling John Jones what his injury is and that he has to go. I'm like, how John went to the doctor? How are you getting this information first?

And then John can't act at all. So I'm like, oh, that's just this, this is bad. This is real mad. It's real, real bad. Was the Dana Ali thing from the doc? That part was interesting because Shafcott versus Usman. He's like, no, he wants to fight Wonderboy. Yeah, Habib was like, that was that part was interesting because Habib is not an actor, nor will he ever pretend to be an actor.

So he'll just tell you what he thinks. And the best part of that is he said. something about like, oh, veteran fighters that give up and coming guys their shot, deserve like more legacy or whatever his phrasing was because if they win, they're right back there. And if they lose, they lost to a monster. And then Ali starts to talk and Habib just like shuts him down immediately. He was like, stop talking.

And then continue on his funny. So Ali, Habib was funny in that. Outside of that, outside of that, it wasn't my. It was just a long embedded. Yeah. And you have to watch it on Roku. I don't know. Is that a streaming service?

Roku, is that a streaming service? I don't mean, it's, it's just a type of another, another thing. Well, no,

it's not like it. Roku's been around forever. No, I know, but I thought Roku's just like a box. I don't know. It was like, like,

like, I don't know. Yeah, they have their own channel on their box. It's a plug in or a channel, I think. I think they have just an app you can download now. Like if you have LGT.

TV as you get like the LG, like whatever. Oh, yeah. I saw those like, when you keep scrolling, there's all these other boxes. I'm like, what is that? Sorry, Grandpa, sorry we have to explain technology to you. You don't know when the internet made this noise. It's another freaking streaming service.

What? I'm asking, is they pay for it? Is it free? I don't know. They just say on Roku. It was like, okay, that doesn't mean anything to me. I do not have Roku

There are other ways to walk out I'm caught for Jed That's funny Back in my day Fighters still got paid the same Jeremy asks Tiago Moise is just not built for this Seems like you can't push it to the limit

When fights get tough I mean Have you seen who he's lost to? literally like benoit san dieh Islam demire is maculov benil der euse like top three to four lightways those are very good people like it's not about like there are levels and it's like championship level and then like rank six to ten he's fine like like but you know why fighters are incredibly sensitive because like thank you for your super chat jeremy but like imagine

guy's Tiago Moses, like, just years and years of practicing this dangerous, dangerous martial he gets to a point. He's fighting the best fighters in the freaking world. He's in one of the top 15 best fighters in the freaking world and arguably the best weight class in the world. And then people go like, yeah, are you built for this, bro? That's just wild. Like, dude has wins over, he has wins over Bobby Green, Michael Johnson, Alex Hernandez.

like dudes are really talented fight like it headlined against Islam yeah the Hernandez fight is a thing of beauty like it really is yeah it's a striking clinic man and that's that's like that string of victories right there

where he tapped Michael Johnson with like an Achilles like lock or something and then he fought Bobby Green in a war and then he pieced up Alex Hernandez on the feet like you know what we were talking about with Jericho and here like is that Jared's like role in life that's Salgo Moises

you're not top 15 and if you can't beat him he's just a high level much longer to his job he's what yeah he's like one of the 25 best dudes in the world that lightweight not good enough definitionally that means you're built for this not good but you know you gotta be top five or you're awful y'all don't I don't think any of guys I'm sure Jose I'm certain you haven't watch this um like you know they

did the they've done like the drive to survive stuff. Netflix has done those documentaries for basically everything. The golf one is called full swing. And the first season, there's a pro golfer called Joel Damon. I don't know if any of you know him, but like he's like that dude. And he had this amazing quote that I just wish MMA fans heard because they're like talking about Joel, you could be so much better than you are. And you're like so talented.

He's like, dude, somebody's got to be the 40th best guy in the world. Might as well be me. And like, it's the best quote because it's like, yes, someone does have to be that. Now, granted, when you're the 40th best pro golfer, you're making millions of dollars still. But, you know, Tiago Moises, that's not doing that, but still, like, somebody's got to be number 36 out there. And that's just Tiago Boisesis. This is one of my favorite quotes in a long time. It was like, Joel Damon, man of the people right there.

favorite card you've seen live in person mine was UFC 141 until I went to UFC 300 now my favorite sporting event and review show ever he boops you and you die favorite card you've seen live in person from Spencer jed I think I know the answer to your question so at this point I've actually seen a lot of cards live and in person but the very obvious answer is 236. That's the Dustin Poire-A-Max Holloway 2 and Israel versus Calvin Gastilm. So that was the number one and number two fight of the years that happened back to back. So going to be pretty tough to beat that card, honestly.

Best one for you, Jose? 249, UFC 249. Because it's a good one, there were. I don't know numbers all the time of my head. They were me, Tony Ferguson me,

John Morgan and Oscar Willis were the only reporters on planet earth that were inside that bubble so that was a

trip because that was the empty arena caught fight that was pre-Apec that is pretty fun shout out to the trailer card

which was weird as shit but also deeply fun yeah Ben Asker and got killed there was a it was a concert with fights happening

in the same venue but separate. It was weird as hell in deeply using. Honestly, UFC 202 and USC 196 were electric. The two Connor did Nate fights. Oh, those were electric. Yeah.

The first time Casey and I met was the UFC 1906. We can talk about the first Connor fight, yeah. Because it was because in particular, it was at MGM Grand. And we, yeah, 100%. MGM Grand just rules more fights. And actually, I'm super excited. I'm going to see Tank Martin at MGM Grand this Saturday. Yeah, that's quite fun.

Fuck, I miss that. Did you go to Kimbo Dada? Who do I know who was at Kimbo Dada? I was at Kimbo Dada. Yeah, that has to be number one. It as far as the as it was, yeah, it was the Sheenheen. I think Luke was there. Yeah, we sat press row and it was incredible.

People always say, it was the worst fight ever. No, it was a freaking best fight. This is literally a top five fight of all times. It was so good. It was so good. When people DM me asking for fights to watch, that's on my Rolodex of fights. It's my 100% in my top five fights of all time.

And it was the whole fight week too because I had the whole baby nuts thing. It was just, it was a great time. It's so good. That was a great time. Yeah. I forgot until we did the damn on that how quickly he goes to baby nuts. It was so good. He just says like, in a.

knock you his comment and then immediately like, no, you won't. Betchaemon nuts are bigger than you're like out of nowhere is the best. You fool. You fool. You fool. All right, be Kimbo. I love you so much. I love him.

Kimbo would be killing it in influencer boxing. Oh, my God. Yeah. Yeah. There's, we live in a world. Kimbo, Jake Paul would have been the first netto fight. No, Kimbo versus Mike Tyson in an influencer boxing match would shatter pay-per-view records. Absolutely decimate records.

Actually, that would be the first Netflix fight. Yeah, that would be it. Without question. I was talking about this as someone. Because when Fedor wanted to fight Kimbo, I was like, I mean, when Fedor wanted to fight Mike Tyson in boxing box, I'm like, that would be massive. What would be a bigger fight for like an MMA boxing crossover? And I, we determined that if Kimbo was alive, it would be.

that. Nothing would surpass that. I agree. Honestly, that probably would be the big. Make it happen. Make it happen. Someone figure out how to make it happen. Make it so. Take a couple more. Oh, but real quick. Yeah. Yeah. Actually, my favorite from beginning to end was in Japan, pre-pandemic, a rise in 20, the New Year's card. That was the final card that Minel Cop one.

Manel Cop won. He beat Cass card on the main event. tension had a great fight Soie Hammers versus Miyaka Hamasaki was this great fight Hamderle and the last fight that Yiri Prohaska had where he retired CB Dolloway

that night It was TB doll and shoes Yeah shoes And just seeing in Japan And the fact that And then it was a New Year's Eve And then I got to be part of the

When they count down to the new year In the ring It was just Yeah I'm like I'm done I was like this is just the greatest thing ever but yeah before I quit this sport I will see a new year's Eve card in Japan that seems like like one of the highlights that you could have in it oh yeah and all the fireworks yeah I hope I tell that to all the fans I meet um like

save up save up few thousand bucks make it out there make it out to japan one time to see a fight out there in japan's cool also now for nothing usually 1 4191 is a very good card Spencer. That was Lesnar Overim. Oh. And Nate Diaz, Cowboy and Johnny Hendricks flatlines John Fitch in about 10 seconds.

I'm pretty sure Alexander Guffs as soon was on that card. But I mean, yeah, UFC 300 is a pretty good card to have been in attendance. That's not a bad one to go to. That's not a lot of one. I saw some video where all the media was trash in it, so

I'm not sure if it was how good it was. That's true. I barely watched the end of the flights. I was doing interviews in the back. I guess I'm dripping. Just feel like he quits when things get tough. I was rooting for him, though. Back to me.

I mean, sometimes you do. Look, when things get tough, quitting is a perfectly reasonable answer. To be fair. If Benoit Santinique kicked me in the stomach, I would quit. Yes. firm agree everyone if I was fighting Islam

I would quit before I started fighting him imagine Derellus Jed what's harder Law degree or covering an apex card I mean there's honestly a lot of overlap in those two

just because like covering an apex card it's just a lot of stuff you don't want to do which is like a lot of law school So I'll default to law degree because it's longer than an apex card, but not by that much. It's also more expensive. It is that, but I can't, when I'm covering an apex card, I can't get hammered drunk. And I imbibed a lot during law school because everyone does because it's law school.

All right. Thank you much. Oh, man, Jeremy, Jeremy, got more. only pro-emeshire i was went to it was 281 and it was electric too expensive to go in the northeast these days 21 was a good one to go to was that that salt right card

no that was the that was izzie is he actually uh per hour one yeah yeah you're right you're right yeah is he perrera one yeah i mean any msg card's gonna be a pretty decent card to attend yeah

uh-huh oh yeah except dealing with those security. Chad's got a lot of good people doing stuff. Michael, I wish I'm going to be fighting to do a small run of the t-shirts, AK and Jed have that Mike himself still needs. I have one. Don't we all?

Don't we all wish that, Michael? Do you know where they went? You know where they all went? I've told the story a few times. They went to Habib Mabagamagamah. Yeah. The team took them all of them. Literally all of them.

They got their great shirts. Yeah. I tried to make a hat once. and lids wouldn't make it for them because the MMA fighting logo is like a trademarked or a copyright or whatever they don't even if you work for them they won't make it because they want you to start selling them illegally rude

I mean somebody on Etsy could make that though for sure yeah I mean look we have we have a lot of things that we could turn into shirts like the heck of a morning logo is a shirt by itself it's just so good I tried to make anything about fighting shirt, anything about fighting T-shirt, and I also couldn't do that because it's too similar to the Aki-to poster. Splitty City.

I mean, there's so many things. Dude, do you know, we could have sold so many boob shirts? Like, we could have sold so many boots shirts. If you could get me in the room with the people who have determined that we can't have merch for whatever reason, like so many boobs. We would have sold so many flyweight undershirts. because there's so much of this merch shit

don't get me started it's infuriating that we don't have merch yeah someday is 2024 every shout out shout to Jeremy

must have made some some coin with the with the baton tonight back at again by the way you do always great to have content to listen to during the work week we appreciate you Jeremy

we love all of you everybody Except across. Except cross. We appreciate cross as well. All right. We respect Cross. We don't love Cross.

True. Okay. Well, we're done. UFC Louisville is the thing of the past. Jed and I will do some matchmaking tomorrow. Something tells me it'll be the shortest on to the next one of all time. So if you got picks, send them to me. And then we'll read whatever we can.

on the program and then next week we get ready for who you thought this lineup you thought this line up tonight on paper was a doozy you just wait till ufc vegas 93 it that's your retire versus Alex Perez and all a bunch of other things legitimately one of the worst cards i've ever seen on paper but i will be in vain and it starts at 10 p.m. oh no it does not pretty sure the main card starts at 10 vm. Wow. I put a hell out of here.

I posted the photo, too. Where the hell is it? So it's going to head to head against, it's going to head against the boxing. Wow. Timmy Kawamba is in the featured bout of next week's car, by the line. Just giving you a little heads up there. But we'll be covering it and we'll be talking to all of you about it next week here

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