MMA Fighting - UFC Macau Post-Fight Show: Reaction To Song Yadong Delivering Star Performance In China

Episode Date: May 30, 2026

Song Yadong is back, and in a big way. On Saturday morning, Song scored the biggest win of his MMA career, submitting two-time flyweight champion Deiveson Figueiredo in the main event of UFC Macau. W...ith the win, Song keeps himself in the thick of the title chase at 135 pounds. But where does Song go from here, and is this the end of the road for “Figgy Smalls”? Following UFC Macau, MMA Fighting’s Alexander K. Lee and Jed Meshew react to the Fight Night card, and Song’s big win, plus what might be next for Figueiredo. Additionally, the team discusses the fall of Zhang Mingyang, Sergei Pavlovich and Kai Asakura reactivating their destroyer modes, another bizarre Alex Perez moment, highlights from the prelims, and much more. Follow Jed Meshew: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@JedKMeshew⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow Alexander K. Lee: @AlexanderKLee Subscribe:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ http://goo.gl/dYpsgH⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Check out our full video catalog: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://goo.gl/u8VvLi⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Visit our playlists:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ http://goo.gl/eFhsvM⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Like MMAF on Facebook: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://goo.gl/uhdg7Z⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow on Twitter: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://goo.gl/nOATUI⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Read More: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://www.mmafighting.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:02:10 we can talk about more than just EOSC Macau if you all want to, because we will be two of at the end. Before we get to that, and we introduce the man to I don't know which side of the screen I come through on your end. The man to my right on my screen, and mostly the end to the north of all of us, the king
Starting point is 00:02:27 in the north, Alexander Claylee, AK, you were bright and early to watch the Fitzpike, how we feel it about UFC Macau as we put a bow on things. Not a bad show. I'm feeling it now. I was kind of cruising through the show. I thought it was decent. I thought, you know, perfect mixture of like plenty of finishes on the prelims, mostly meaningful main card action,
Starting point is 00:02:53 even a little bit of shenanigans, a little bit of shenanigans in our first fight. Of course, Alex Prez was involved because it's Alex Prez and the man just cannot have a normal life. So, but overall, yeah, I think this was a fine effort. The only disappointing thing, of course, is that, unfortunately, for the Macau crowd, not a great night for Chinese, fighters, they were actually 0 and 5 with the one no contest heading into the main event. Fortunately, Song Yadong sent everyone home happy, Jed, with a surprising submission of Davidson Figaro, just the second UFC submission of Song Yadong's career. And just the second time Figgi has been tapped the other time, of course, by Brandon Moreno
Starting point is 00:03:34 in a title fight. Not bad company for Song Yadong to be in. I know when we talk about Figu being a champion, of course, talking about in a different weight class but still not a bad feather in song's cap and now he can claim wins over henry sehudo and we talked about a lot about that on the preview show it was kind of unsatisfying because of the eye poke that end of the fight prematurely even if he thought that that fight was was going song's way would have been nice if he could have got at least gone the distance or even got a finish and he also holds a win over marlon mud ice from some time ago you guys remember that former
Starting point is 00:04:04 world series of fighting champion one time uh vacant title challenger mother mud ice so songs got himself a nice resume, Chad. He's got himself a nice resume. He definitely needed to win tonight, definitely needed to impress. Mission accomplished. Yeah, man. As you said, his first submission win in forever since his UFC debut when he submitted Baharat Kandar, which we all remember lovingly. Also with a guillotine choke, AK, let's do this. Let's just dive right into things. The card was fairly fun. I have not caught all of it. So certainly as we get to the prelims,
Starting point is 00:04:46 I'm going to lean heavily on you to sort of talk me through the big, important things that happened. Saw some highlights on the great MMA fighting.com. But we are already in the middle of it. Let's just dive in. Song Yonong gets it done over Davis to Vigaredo in the second round with the guillotine choke. Bit of a strange opening round, though, AK Song.
Starting point is 00:05:06 Let me actually see if we've got UFC stats up on this right now, because neither fighter did a whole lot in that opening stanza. Looking at the numbers right now, nine significant strikes landed for Song Yadong, six for Davidson Figaro, really, really tepid start to the evening. And I, as a person with a climb bet writing on Song Yadong at that point, was getting a bit nervous.
Starting point is 00:05:32 Things opened up in the second, though, AK. So what is, you know, you talked about Song needing this, and I think that's very true, but what's your biggest takeaway from the fight in general, the performances that we saw tonight? Overall, I think, I don't know if the matchmaking worked out as the UFC thought it would. I think that's the first thing I would say.
Starting point is 00:05:54 I think there's a couple of results they were kind of hoping we'd go the other way. But yeah, you know, we kind of complimented this card as we have a lot of recent UFC cards for being a decent mixture of squash matches, solid names in the main event. And then, yeah, listen, some up-and-comers and people who fighters uh sorry excuse me fans and even us in the media might not be super familiar with but are certainly being given a platform to perform and uh we got
Starting point is 00:06:21 some of that like i think uh if we're going if we really want to break down the card a little bit i i know it feels like it i mean feels like it was like six hours ago now i thought we got really good showings from like rogera i thought raceda had a nice win over louis gruella i mean expected but still a nice win. Luis Felipe Diaz closed out the prelims nicely. So this is just talking about the prelims. I think we've got some really good stuff. And a nice vintage performance, too, of course,
Starting point is 00:06:45 from the ageless Angela Hill. We've said that that was a great matchmaking with Jean-Gingdon. We'll get to all that. I want to talk about the main event. That's the shit that matters. Okay. Oh, I'm sorry. We'll talk about the prelims early.
Starting point is 00:06:57 Yeah, like what, coming into this song atong fight, we talked about on the preview show, like, hey, what does this mean? Because we don't, you know, it is, somewhat a meaningless fight, right? Like, the winner is not immediately moving on to a title fight. They are both coming off losses. Like, it was a bit of a like, it's a fun fight and nobody mistake that, but where are we going with this? Coming out of this fight, did you take any lessons away from Song Yadong? Like, obviously this is a great win for him and, you know, the resume improves. But did this change your estimation of Song Yadong, the fighter?
Starting point is 00:07:35 I mean, in a way, yes, but in a positive way. We agree, like you said, tepid, I think it was the right word to describe some of the action heading into, you know, before we finally got to the finish. It just seemed like both guys were a little tentative. Maybe like they were both feeling the pressure of the moment. I think there was a fear that, you know, both fighters were aware, like, boy, of what a loss means to them. Figgie who ended up losing now four or five, pretty much permanently removed from any title
Starting point is 00:08:01 conversation, whether at 135 or 125, like, and no surprise there. The man's nearing 40 years old, right? I know he says he wants to fight for several more years. I'm not sure after Saturday's events. And as for Song, I think if we look at some of our best fighters, if we talk about some of our great, like, truly elite fighters in the last like two decades, you're going to have like some ugly performances there. And you're going to have some fights that are unappealing until, you know,
Starting point is 00:08:30 until the fighter finds that right moment to strike. So I could see people. being discouraged by the fact that, you know, the round one was so bad. But I think there was some element of game planning here that worked that showed that song can follow a game plan, especially against. Again, it's still a pretty dangerous opponent. I know he was a huge favorite, but we talked about how versatile he can be and how his grappling could have made the difference.
Starting point is 00:08:55 So I think seeing a tactical, a more tactical strategic song, not that he was some berserker before, but I think showing that he can win kind of an ugly fight like that. this is encouraging. Again, he's only 28 years old. I want to say the best still ahead for him. Maybe this is sort of the approach he needs to take going forward. Because he looked, if we go to the Shawton-Malley fight, he looked pretty clearly, like he wasn't,
Starting point is 00:09:22 it wasn't like a whooping, but he looked pretty clearly like there was a tear break, you know, between where Shaan Amali stands and where the Song-a-Dongs are. I'm not saying that this win closed that gap, but I'm saying going forward, maybe this more cerebral approach, maybe we're, you know, this higher in cage IQ,
Starting point is 00:09:40 maybe we'll pay off in the long run. I'm being very optimistic here. You know, again, I'm sure people were just not pleased at all with how dull the fight was before the finish. But he got the win. Most importantly, he got the win, right? Most importantly, he got the win. It was definitely a very curious start to the proceedings.
Starting point is 00:09:55 But I also think you're right. It does seem like this was some level of a game plan. If you heard your eye favor in between rounds and the corner, he's like, stay patient. you're doing great it seems like and maybe we'll find out in post fight or whatever that they wanted to certainly not come out guns blazing against the guy like david and figurado maybe take this a little longer and in the second round he just confidence grew a little bit more started throwing throwing some more buzzed figgy at one point in time and then ultimately figgy takes the
Starting point is 00:10:26 shot guillotine classic team alpha male finish uh you know bob's your uncle there songy dong gets it done On the other side of the ball here, it's very tough for Davidson Figurato. He has lost a lot lately. The former two-time flyweight champion is one and four in his past five. Where does he go from here? He's 38 years old. There was much made during the broadcast that he says he wants to fight till he's 42.
Starting point is 00:10:54 Is that reasonable? Or are we going to continue to see Figgy Smalls in the cage? Or is this maybe a, hey, we should reconsider what's going on? I mean, if he's willing to take a significant step back in competition, sure. Davidson Figurato could hang around for a long time. I'm trying to look. We'll do a quick game here. How far back do you have to go in the rankings to find someone who you feel like he could confidently beat?
Starting point is 00:11:14 Like, I feel like no one in the top 10 right now, like, even if you want to pick fighters that we've kind of maligned, like, Amarabatista, Amman's a hobby. I would comfortably pick them to beat Figgy. So if we go a little bit lower, let me see who he was already fought before I accidentally like name someone that he's beaten. he's fought a lot of dudes he's fought a lot of dudes but mostly top 15 dudes so like Marcus McGee um
Starting point is 00:11:41 Farid Bashra I know he's booked I would pick free to beat Figy at this point even like the recent really I was to say my rankings a lot update here I said I had a Daniel Marcos on here was just released and frankly I would pick him also to beat
Starting point is 00:11:56 Figy of the stage of his career so we know Figgy's skills but he's 38 I'm sorry I can't harp on it enough guys but like this is when you kind of start to lose the ability to pull the trigger no matter how experienced you are how skills you are how great you look in the gym when it comes time to actually step into the octagon you know you've you've probably lost a loss a step or two and at flyweight bansom weight whatever weight class is going to be in going forward presumably bant to weight even if he decides to go up to 1.45 which would be insane it's the ability the physical abilities
Starting point is 00:12:26 just aren't quite there anymore i mean i see him get submitted by sonya dong was pretty is discouraging, if I'm being honest. Congrats to song, but very discouraging on the, on the Davidson Figurator end. So he can hang around if he wants, but he'll be hanging around the middle of the pack, not in the top of Dean. Yeah, I don't know what to make of it. That was, you know, I assume that that was a deep, deep and hard choke, but he tapped so quickly. The shot even felt like it wasn't like the most committed takedown attempt.
Starting point is 00:12:57 It just, this was the most listless I've seen Davis and Figurato look, because, well, I was a bit critical of Song Yodong in the opening frame, not doing much. I mean, Figgi wasn't doing anything either. And that is certainly a little more of his normal style. Like, he is not a hive output fighter. But he didn't do much. He got cracked and then he got tapped. Like, there's no, in my mind, there's nothing to hang your hat on if you're Davis Bigaredo here.
Starting point is 00:13:23 There is no, you know, silver lining to this dark cloud. And that's pretty tough position for him to be in as, as things move forward, AKA, I should probably just have asked this off air, but I'll do it here. Will there be it on to the next one tomorrow? I know Mike Heck is traveling, so I don't really know how that's going to shake out,
Starting point is 00:13:42 but is that coming? Because if I'm, or is it going to be a solo version? What's up? Should I ask you on air if you're going to be available to be a guest host? I don't know. I don't know if you are.
Starting point is 00:13:52 If we can do it in the afternoon, I'm available, but I cannot do it in the morning. I think I'll go solo. Okay. I think, because I think I will have to go early, So I do want to do an on to the next one. Yes. So let me say there will be one.
Starting point is 00:14:06 Yes, because I'll be around. I believe I'm supposed to be on again in the morning. That's going to be fun. So yes, on to the next one this week. Well, then I won't ask you for where these gentlemen go specifically, but I will just say, I think as far as Song Adon goes, this was an important win, right? We talked all about that. I don't think it's going to get him a title fight next.
Starting point is 00:14:27 But he could be in the Umar and Omar and Armagamato of sweepstakes. now that is i think that's very much a possibility uh maybe maybe if a man's a hobby beats uh shone o'mar gets slotted into the next title fight you know after the marab and peyote ryan trilogy so maybe it's it's one either or there but they still seem very interested in giving him a push a k and so that will be my official on to the next one selection umar no magamadov versus uh song yadong Okay, let us move to the co-main event of the evening where you mentioned earlier, China had a very, very rough night until Song-get-on got it done. And arguably the worst part of the whole evening for the grand nation of China and the city of Macau,
Starting point is 00:15:18 Zhang Ming-Yang. He got dusted up pretty fiercely by Alonzo Minifield. First round knockout loss for the Mountain Tiger. That makes it two losses in a row. the two ranked opponents he has faced have put him down i guess maybe anthony smith was ranked at the time he fought him but a very very tough loss for uh jeng ming yang and a k you see the header below or i guess the footer below jangming jang is he good was he just fraud checks right there is that what alonzo mennefield did to the nation of of china on saturday they fraud checked the great light heavyweight
Starting point is 00:15:56 hope? It's a weird thing to say because he kind of, I don't know if people feel like he got fraud check in the Johnny Walker fight. I know that didn't go as poorly as this one. I know he performed a little bit better. That was his past August in Shanghai. And I guess because it was one loss and because Johnny Walker's, you know, kind of been a top 10, top 12-ish guy for the longest time. It wasn't viewed as poorly. And the thought was, you know, let's get him back in there with someone, you know, that win just recalibrated their expectations for him. Let's put in there with someone like, oh, I don't know, Alonzo Minifield, again in China, and it should be a favorable outcome.
Starting point is 00:16:35 Instead, probably more, I shouldn't say probably, way more discouraging than that Johnny Walker loss. He just looked like he didn't have any sort of game plan whatsoever. And when, you know, when plan A, whatever that, if there was a plan, when that didn't work, I mean, he just kind of just kept coming forward and eating punches and the defense wasn't there. The clinch work was okay. Again, when we're talking about, you know, one of the always often overlooked things of like the best of the best fighters in the UFC, we would talk about clinch work, right?
Starting point is 00:17:08 Clinchwork, it's not the most exciting thing. I know fans sometimes find it boring. It is essential to being a good fighter, certainly to be a top 10 fighter, certainly to possibly being a champion. And Zhang is so far away from that conversation. I don't know if he was fraud check today because, that might have already happened. But if that train got derailed by Johnny Walker, it got nowhere close to being back on track tonight.
Starting point is 00:17:31 So really disappointing stuff from Zhang Ming Yang. Not an old light heavyweight, under 30, plenty of time to recover. But the matchmakers are going to have to be really smart about who they put him up against next. And his team is going to have to be really smart with what they take away from this and how they help him to adapt because, yeah,
Starting point is 00:17:50 did not look close to being a top of Dean guy right now. Yeah, when we talked to the preview show, I was like, I think he's, he's supposed to just blow up Bologna Field. The odds weren't like massive. It was like, yeah, we just saw Volcanoz Demir walk Menafield down and kill him. And even at moments, you know, Zhang cracked him one there, I think with an elbow inside and then couldn't follow up or just chose not to before Minifield. Who credit to Minifield, I also don't want to make this totally about Zhang Ming Yan being not very good. which I think is probably the big takeaway. But this was the most engaged I'd seen Mendefield in a while.
Starting point is 00:18:29 You know, this is a three-fight win streak for him now, which is always good, never something to sneeze at. Each one of them has been defending against the guy the UFC was seeing if maybe they could move into the top 15. Three out of four. Three out of four. Oh, I forgot that I forgot, Volcombe was, yeah. Three out of four. Again, his last three against guys that were kind of coming up to take.
Starting point is 00:18:48 Yeah, his third defeat or third victory over kind of an up-and-comer. right and the most engaged he looked in that in in this little run here he was throwing hard he talked about in the post fight that he was coming out here to bang not trying like do anything and it it ultimately ended up working aka i don't think we just have too much to say about minifield he is an old war horse but he's not making a run here you mentioned that jang is still young and relative to the light heavyweight division he is to me it looks like he has too many holes to make up for right he he doesn't frankly have the greatest cardio showed a pretty okay chin like he got cracked it several times before he finally went down um but i personally i'm off i'm off
Starting point is 00:19:37 the mountain tiger train you know he's on my fantasy team and i don't blame him i wasn't winning anyway but you know i i don't i don't see it happening for him are you ready to throw the baby out with the bathwater not at all not and by the i understand you to support You want your guys to at least show some heart, you know, your fantasy team members to not just like, don't just mail it in even the season's over. He did. He got cracked a lot and kept fighting.
Starting point is 00:20:02 Okay. There was like I, I don't think like he didn't, he didn't beg out of that fight in any regard, right? Like he ate a lot of shots. Yeah. I do wonder about his cardio. It feels like he breathes very,
Starting point is 00:20:13 very heavy almost immediately in all his fights. So that's like a concern. But I'm just, I don't think the talent is there. He's had a lot of fights. and he's never won a fight that's gone out of the first round. Like there are a lot of problems, I think, inherent in his style. He can still be a fun dude, but I don't take him as a serious contender at this stage.
Starting point is 00:20:34 But I don't know if that's me being, you know, too quick on the draw here. Man, him being 27, I just, I do feel like now I still have to give him a chance. Like 27 is really young, especially like we said for a light heavyweight. That's like 24 or 23 in any other, you know, a lighter division. I think the Anthony Smith win kind of screwed him up or screwed up their expectations of him because that's what that fight was supposed to do. They were giving him Anthony Smith a name to push Zhang Ming Yang, right? This is Anthony Smith, a former UFC title challenger.
Starting point is 00:21:04 Wow, he put him away inside of a round. That's crazy. Even John Jones couldn't finish this guy. How good is Zhang Mingyang? And of course, it's a very faulty way of thinking. And then you throw him in there with Johnny Walker, you don't know with Alonzo, it doesn't go his way. So kind of what I said for Figgie, go to.
Starting point is 00:21:19 like triple for Zhang. It's a bit tougher as far as having to dial back the level of competition. It's a bit tougher because light heavy way is not that deep. I don't know how far back you can go. But I think you have to go back to the range who was fighting before. The Ozzy Diaz's, the Bredison Hibaros. I'm just trying to see who's on the roster now. You give him like Bruno Lopez.
Starting point is 00:21:38 You give them, I don't feel like, man, this is really low. You give them the Tuko, the Tukotokos is, gosh, I don't know. We're talking. We're talking Tuko Tocos versus how this man has fallen. We're talking Tucco's for him. But I think it's fair, right? Like he can be fun, you know, when he's just blowing people up. But, you know, I don't mean this as disrespectful as it is.
Starting point is 00:22:07 If you're losing to Alonzo Menefield and Johnny Walker at this stage of their careers, I'm out. You know, I'm just out is where we're at. He's not. supposed to be I feel like we know now he's not supposed to be this level. Anthony Smith was I don't know if Anthony Smith was ranked at the time. I'm assuming he was still hanging on to like the 14th to 15 spot or something. Like this is we criticize the rankings for many reasons. And it's like this is one other reason. It kind of screws them up because I think he got a number next to his name after
Starting point is 00:22:35 Anthony Smith wins. So they're like, oh, he has a number next to his name. He has to fight people, other people with numbers next to their name. It's like, no man, this guy's skills are clearly not there yet. But that doesn't mean like there's not a lot of raw talent. So I won't rule it out. Jeddell, I hope this is a redemption story. I'm not saying he necessarily fights for a title, but can he actually establish himself as a real top 10 guy in the future? Yeah, he's only 27, but we got to go. If he...
Starting point is 00:22:58 I love your optimism. Just the Prince of Positivity in full force right now. If he is matched up with anyone in the top 20, which is probably going to probably drop him out of that after this fight. If he's matched with anyone in the top 20 in his next fight, someone screwed up. Yeah, like you got to let the man just get a confidence win under his belt.
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Starting point is 00:25:01 Okay. Speaking of confidence wins and fighters who aren't very good, though not in the same other ends of the fight, Big Surge is back, baby, feature fight of the evening. And Sergei Pavlovich just mows down Talison Tashara. Altasher's training with Poetan was for not as Big Surge just cracked him with the right hand and then poured shots on until the referee stepped in. Sergei Pavlovich's first finish in quite some time. He is on a three-fight win streak, AK, you know, still a top five heavyweight,
Starting point is 00:25:42 still look like his old self. Granted, maybe you can draw conclusions about how he looks and the level of competition he's facing. But it was fun, certainly fun, A.K., and, you know, how are you feeling about Sergey Pavlovich in the heavyweight division coming off of this performance? Man, that was a good time. I picked Talas, and just for fun.
Starting point is 00:26:04 I just wanted to see some fresh blood. But my second favorite option would have been Sergey doing vintage Sergey things and just running through someone as he used to do. And it's not like he's changed at all. Listen, he's just fighting better guys. I mean, Waldo's kind of a weird guy to fight. Jerry Sr. Roastrick, pretty tough to finish. Volkov, obviously, he lost that fight.
Starting point is 00:26:22 Just, you know, Volkov's just a better fighter than him. So, yeah, we hadn't gotten to see a classic Sergey Pavlovich first round knockout in a long time. But apparently, Talzin-Desh-Sherr, not quite up to the level of those other names I just mentioned, and very susceptible to a Pavlovich flurry. And that was fun to see because he is, like, considerably better than the other fighters DeSherr's fought outside of, like, Derek Lewis, which, again, did not go well for Talos and DeSher. So this is probably what should have been expected. I'm glad.
Starting point is 00:26:49 Sergey's got a great smile. I love that he called for the title fight after. I don't think he should get it, but also like the heavyweight title picture is pretty messed up. And if it's not like Tom Aspinall coming back soon, which we assume he will, yeah, he could kind of slide in there and fight Alex Panetta or Ciddle gone, I guess. Really, nothing's off the table.
Starting point is 00:27:09 So I doubt it. I'd be very surprised with Pallivitch fights for a title next. But who cares? He just got another knockout. 16 knockouts in his career jet all in the first round. When he finishes, he finishes quickly. But unlike Zhang Ming Yang, he also has won decisions. So that's an important, important thing there.
Starting point is 00:27:28 I also do want to slide to defend him in his initial callout. He said, Dana, give me a title fight or a contender bout. Like he recognized that he's not like a lock to get a title fight, but like, He doesn't want to do this is I think the point he was trying to get across of, I'm not trying to fight Talosin to Chera. Well, like the number 15 ranked dude. And then Bisping being a terrific professional was like, so you'd like to fight for the belt next.
Starting point is 00:28:00 Yes, because every fighter would like to fight for the belt next, Michael Bisping. That's how fighting works. Erks. So, no, I don't think there's too much to take away from Big Surge. But it was just very nice to see him do the thing. he got famous for in the first place. On the Talosin share side of things, a.K., you were very positive about Zhang Mingyang.
Starting point is 00:28:22 Tell us an even younger, 26, and in a heavyweight division, where 26 is basically 12. His losses have been quite tough, right? Like, he has two losses. They are to Derek Lewis, there's Sergey Pavvich, in a combined minute and 10 seconds or something like that. Feeling different about him,
Starting point is 00:28:42 comparatively to Zhang Ming Yang, as far as like a possible future in this division, higher or lower. Give me sort of a gauge here. Not really. So still young enough that you're not going to write him off, but I mean, the thing is you can't ignore. So we're not just talking about the Pavlovich and Derek Lewis lost this year.
Starting point is 00:29:05 We're talking about the Tewa Vosso fight as well. And I know he won the Tui Vasa fight. Man, that fight really hurt both guys. I feel like. It was just a, it was just, kind of a stinky fight um you're bad three bad fights or a kind of a stinky fight there's three bombs in a row the size is so cool uh i do feel like he's a guy who has that like has that death touch like i do think he can like make a mess of some of you know the mid range of heavyway and maybe that's
Starting point is 00:29:34 where he goes maybe he maybe he's like waldo maybe after a loss to sergey uh his suddenly he's suddenly going to you know find a different a different note and just like turned things around i don't know but I will say if I had to choose between who is more likely to like stabs themselves as a top 10 guy like comfortably stabs themselves between Zhang and to Shera I'm definitely leaning Zhang and I think to share could hang around for a while I think like he could he could maybe like log you know double-digit UFC appearances maybe to think where he ends up getting a release sometime and then you know gets a few wins and regional scene comes back that would probably be best I would love that for Talas and DeShera I do think that would help him go back to LFA go
Starting point is 00:30:14 takes some fights in Brazil or something. Just like go, go again, build that confidence. Everything build that skill set. Have that time to really just work on yourself in between fights without worrying about like, oh, this fight is so important. This fight is, it's do or die or I'm out of the USC. It's do or die or I'm never going to fight for a title. He needs to, I think, just get back in a situation where he can just fight just to learn and win.
Starting point is 00:30:35 And we'll see. And come back to the UFC when he's like 15 and 2. And then we can meet him all over again. That'd be fun. Okay, I don't think it's going to happen. but if I if I could magic wand an Otno pick
Starting point is 00:30:49 give me Talosin Tocera versus Zhang Ming Yang dudes who just want to fight in the first round and that's it You're bumping Zhang up to heavyweight Yeah just just do it Let's just how why not
Starting point is 00:31:00 Who cares? I don't eat Arbys He's not a particularly I think not Zang's not a huge life He's not But that's who care Like that fight will be over
Starting point is 00:31:10 In three minutes And that will be fine Or we can do Johnny Walker who's moved up, but he's books. So that would, I can't be doing that. But yeah. Yeah. I don't have a lot of hope for Talasin to share, but heavyweight is quite terrible.
Starting point is 00:31:22 So you never know. He's young. Maybe he can piece it together, but I do think he needs a lot of development. You know who doesn't need development? You know who just needed to be in the right weight class? Alexander K. Lee. Cossaker, nice to finally meet you. He runs through Cameron Smotherman in a minute and 50.
Starting point is 00:31:43 seconds. This is the dude that people were like, yeah, it's sick that he's getting an immediate title fight. He was gas in Risen. A.K., I mean, we all knew Kai had this in him, but how fun was it to see him finally deliver what we know he can do? Yeah, I think it's what a lot of is expected when we heard he was going up to Bantamweight when he got Cameron Smotherman. Cameron Smotherman, like, listen, an exciting guy. I don't think he's like done in the UFC, though it'll be tough because he is one and three now um yeah maybe he needs to go back the regional route again this could be this could be it but uh i like cameron's motherman very unfortunate what happened last time with the uh collapse on the scale so i think he already wasn't in the best graces with the ufc and the matchmakers
Starting point is 00:32:29 and maybe that's kind of why he got thrown to kai uh kai back at 135 this is the division that man he was just a star in in rising it feels like so long ago now but when he was in rising guys he was beating Kyoji, Manel Kopp, Juan Archeletta, like really good names. I know Manel and Kioji both got their W's back eventually, but there was a run there where Kai looked like, oh, crap, this is like a top five flyweight slash banto wait in the world. Legitimately was knocking these guys off. So, yeah, and I don't think any of us were too surprised when like making a proper cut down to 125 didn't work out great for him.
Starting point is 00:33:08 He's kind of a tweener Jed. I don't know if he's big enough to like competing as the best band-in-weights, but I don't care. I don't care. If the UFC can keep finding match-ups like this, like Smotherman, maybe some guys in the fringe of the top 15. You're going to get more Kaisker highlights. So this was fun. And I'm glad he got one of the bonuses. I'm not sure you saw all the bonuses, Jeff.
Starting point is 00:33:27 But he got. I did not. That is where I was going to take us next is I know we have bonuses. I do briefly want to say, I don't think this makes sense at all. But power of the pen, give me Kaisa-Ker of. versus Davis and Figurato. They're two, two flantom weights,
Starting point is 00:33:44 you know, two little tweeters. Flantam weights. I'm coining that one. So I would like that. But let's talk about the bonuses because now that Kaius Akhaa is down, we have now, we've covered the three fights that had bonuses.
Starting point is 00:33:59 As Song Yudong gets one, Kaius Akira gets one, both performance bonuses. And Alonzo Minifield and Zhang Mingyang, their four-minute fight gets a performance bonus. it was a very fun four minutes or a fight of the night not a performance bonus it was a very fun four minutes not entirely sure that they should have done this feels like maybe we should have just gone with the old four performance bonus thing but a k any issues with these before we talk about the rest of the best of the
Starting point is 00:34:28 rest from the undercard um man i can't believe uh cody hadden didn't get one after his impassion a plea for a hundred thousand dollars so he can pay his bills that was a bad idea that was a real bad he probably wasn't getting it anyway i do think they're they're just going to stick with the main card performances which fair enough again sonya dong listen becoming just a second guy to submit biggie awesome in the main event sure got to give bonus him up i guess kai we all agreed the most exciting knockout of the night got a bonus him up and uh fight of the night i mean i feel like i would have just given alonzo the performance right and then one other yeah and then hey done, you know, Ray Saruya or whatever.
Starting point is 00:35:08 Yeah. The fight was fun. I'm not here to say. No, no. It was a one minute or a one round fight. And also like, it was fun, but there were portions of it where they were just holding. It was, it was very stop-start. All right, we're clinched.
Starting point is 00:35:22 Okay. Bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang. Clinch. Bang, bang, bang, bang, bang. It feels like they could have spread the love around a little more. But at no point in that fight, like during that short fight, Did I feel like I was watching the fight of the night? Let me put it that way.
Starting point is 00:35:36 Yeah. It was competitive, but I wasn't like, oh, this is a barn burner. I was like, oh, okay. Yeah, this is not going to go on the 10 best fights of the year. Yeah, Zhang should feel very happy. He's getting an extra 100K for what happened there. Get paid, though, man. You know, certainly don't turn that money away.
Starting point is 00:35:52 No, no, no. Lanzuminafeil and Zhang Ming-yang. Oh, Lanzal deserves it. A.K., uh, let's talk about the rest of the card. I'm briefly going to run down the result. Oh, you know, what you know, Cody Haddon more? Or do you want to get to that when we get to Haddon? We'll talk about it when we get there.
Starting point is 00:36:05 I just want to run down the results, and then you can tell me what stands out from the undercard here as. Jake Matthews picks up a very wide unanimous decision over Carlston Harris. It's got a 3025 on one judge's scorecard, not something you see every day. Alex Perez and Sumadair G goes to a no contest after a groin kick from Sumadairji renders Alex Perez awful and, you know, retching into a bucket in the middle of the octagon for five minutes. Did you see you?
Starting point is 00:36:40 You know, I didn't get to look into the bucket. I am not Michael Bisping, who just affirmed that he didn't, or the referee who I don't remember who was refereeing, not like one of the usual suspects, who was like, it's just spit, it's not vomit, which, okay, Yeah, I think it was referee. I think he was referee Mark Craig. I think he was saying that to Goddard.
Starting point is 00:37:02 I think he was consulting Goddard. Yeah, it's a, I mean, let's pause and talk about this because honestly, this probably deserves something to speak about. How did you feel about the handling of this situation? Because it is a glancing low blow that, you know, had an outsized effect. Some people are out here claiming he was, he quit. I don't buy that at all. In general, fighters don't quit.
Starting point is 00:37:26 And also, like, as was explained on the broadcast and Alex Perez communicated to the referee, he got pinched as the classiest way I'll say it. Shout out to Michael Bisping, who didn't understand what was happening. And was like, what does that mean? And Brendan Fitzgerald was like, I don't know how to say this in a way that's fit for public consumption. So I tend to believe that this was valid, but how did you feel about the handling of the whole situation? They went to full time. The crowd was booing all while Perez is just retching into a bucket. How do you feel, A.K.?
Starting point is 00:38:08 It was awkward. Can we note this is the second puke bucket appearance of the Paramount Era? Yeah, I mean, Paramount Era is bringing them out. It needs a sponsor. Was there a Paramount symbol on it? Like, it should be the Paramount Pute Bucket, right? The Paramount Puk Pail. Now that's a...
Starting point is 00:38:24 The Paramount Pugh Pell. For all you alliteration fans out there. So I'm going to call the Triple Pee, the Paramount Pug Pail anytime. Again, two is already more than I think I've ever seen in the UFC. I just don't recall them. I've never... I genuinely don't think I ever remember a fighter retching into a bucket in the middle of... Yes.
Starting point is 00:38:41 I mean, Kevin Holland, when he got like his eye jacked up was like... He wasn't retching, but he was like really in a bad way. I can't remember somebody. I'm sure it's happened and I just can't recall it, but very, very wild times. Someone tweeted, I don't know if this is true, that Alex Perez was in Cody Garbrandt's corner for that fight.
Starting point is 00:39:02 Oh, yeah, okay. Well, I mean, some reliable people. He was in Cody Graham's corner for the Zhao Long fight, UFC 326, when Cody was also struck in the groin multiple times. I think Cody was like twice or something, right? Very definitely, definitely, he definitely puked. He definitely puked, did not just spit into a bucket. He definitely puked.
Starting point is 00:39:20 They didn't show on in the, air, but we have multiple sources saying that he vomited. And then, but that's a situation that's handled quite differently, Chad. Cody was allowed to continue and won the fight. He, yeah, but he won the fight because they deducted points. They deducted points, correct. They should not have, the fight should not have continued. If memory serves, it felt like he didn't really want to, but they were just like you're doing it.
Starting point is 00:39:44 But I could be wrong on that. Yeah, like my, I have a new official policy, AK, and it's if the. Paramount Pute Pit comes out, the fight is stopped and we're not going to, because it looked like they were going to try and make Alex Perez fight again, which was just like, the man is retching in the center of the cage for four minutes. Like, if that happens, I would have loved to see if they did deduct points, you know, like if the referee took points because he very obviously should have. In that instance, ultimately, not what happened.
Starting point is 00:40:17 We go to a no contest. You know, tough scenes. Because Sumidary was looking pretty good early in that fight. Still a lot of fight to go, right? We were not quite to the halfway mark. But just a, you know, a bit of nonsense to mix in with the rest of a card with a lot of finishes on it. Shout out to shout out, sorry, to It Factory, May, who's suggesting the howlerhead puke bucket. Like, you really got a proper sponsor on there, you know?
Starting point is 00:40:42 I mean, there you go. That's now we're also, I mean, that's brand alignment because if you've ever, if you've ever smelled howler head you would like to find a bucket immediately afterwards so um the prelims aka i'm going to run through these results and then you know we'll talk about whatever whatever jumps out to you uh louis daz tkos uh ys uh ysacac lea very good performance i did catch this one uh Jose and rique takes a split decision over ding man i did not see all of this fight uh you know i'm curious to see how you scored it because there was some dissension amongst people on the old interwebs.
Starting point is 00:41:20 My boy, Cody had and gets it done. TKO's Erii Lang begs for a bonus that he does not get because he is broke. That is unfortunate for him. Ray Saruya back. I got to talk about Cody for a second because, man, just I know it's, I don't know if it's troll accounts or bought accounts, but the same people who are just like responding to like, obviously that's criticizing Cody having to beg and then people saying, well, he hasn't fought in two years.
Starting point is 00:41:46 Of course he doesn't have a lot of money. And I'm like, he fought today. He fought today. Our point is, I say our collective point is that, like, if once that UFC check comes in, you should be good for at least the next little while. Yes. If Cody had like during the past two years said, oh my gosh, I can't believe I'm broke, even though I'm a UFC fighter, then I'd be like, okay, that's a bit strange.
Starting point is 00:42:08 You know, you're injured. You can't fight. What's the UFC supposed to do? Then I would understand that in case. This man fought and won today. So he knows what his paycheck's going to be at the end of the day. Once he, this weekend is over. he knows what he's getting paid and still felt that he had to beg for an extra 100K.
Starting point is 00:42:22 That's bad, guys. That's bad. I don't, and I understand, yes, he's probably had a drain over the last years. That's probably increased the urgency. But if you're a UFC fighter, I just don't see a world where you should fight and win and then be begging for money. I don't know what Cody Haddon's finances are, but it's a real bad look for him and for the UFC, mostly for the UFC. So again, for anyone out there saying, oh, he should have fought more. Fine, I agree.
Starting point is 00:42:46 He should have fought more. but also he just fought. He should be getting paid properly to the point that he's not begging on national television. It's crazy. You know, you say that, A.K., but what do you, what are you expecting? What do you want?
Starting point is 00:42:59 Do you want the UFC to just pay people 200 grand, and they might not even be good? How else are we going to know if they're worth paying if we don't let them fight? Like, what do you think we're going to scout fighters beforehand? Yeah, this is a testing. This is not, you know, this is a testing ground. for prospects, right?
Starting point is 00:43:18 When you put someone on a UFC car. This is not like established people, you know. I don't know what you're talking about. And we're making people pay money to, you know, for tickets to watch these unproven talents, you know, it's great. So you're gonna bankrupt the company. Do you want this company to be poor? Is that what you want?
Starting point is 00:43:35 I don't understand what you're asking for here. It's tough for Cody Haddon, but he is a sick prospect. I hope he finds someone to give him some money so he can continue to be a good fighter. and he doesn't have to quit to go sell insurance or whatever it is that he would do outside of the fighting world. Another good prospect, Ray Surria, back in the win column in a major way, kind of runs over. Luis Garouli submits him in the first round with the face crank. Again, I think he deserved a performance bonus, but alas, Angela Hill, doing the thing.
Starting point is 00:44:08 Just can fight number 30? I don't know what win this is. I think it's like 20. just turns back Zhang Jingyang 30-27s across the board I didn't see one punch of this fight AK but Angela Hill
Starting point is 00:44:25 shout out to you the new one champion I think they call it flyweight Yes no they're straw weight They do call it straw weight It's their 125 but without weight cutting division Angela Hill finally gets a title And it's the one championship title
Starting point is 00:44:41 And then opening the proceedings Rodrigo Vera the prospect, nukes Zukangji, and Jacqueline Amaran submits Loma, Luke Boon me with an arm bar also in the first round. A.K., we talked about the Cody Haddon Fight. What else stood out to you from these early prelims? Anything of note? Shout out to Rodriguez-Vara, first of all, my Peruvian brother, that was awesome. This is a guy who, like, you know, his record's obviously a little puffy looking.
Starting point is 00:45:06 You know, he's a 21-1 or something. But he's got skills. He's obviously got skills. And Zhu Kang Jay is not like a world beater. So this is, you know, this just established, you know, Dana White can now pay him more money. He passed his tryout. He passed his live UFC trial.
Starting point is 00:45:21 Hopefully we'll pay him more money. He won't, but he probably should. So yeah, interesting guy at 145. I'm not someone I'm saying is going to be like top 20, but I'd like to see him hanging around for the next little bit. See what he does against the mid tier of the 135, 145 division, excuse me. And yeah, maybe he's even better than I think.
Starting point is 00:45:38 And a big shout to Angela Hill. And just a classy performance against Jean. Zhang Jingnan. Jean just couldn't really pull the trigger. And it's not, and it's to the credit of Angela Hill. Angela Hill is just so experienced, such a good striker, didn't even really give Zhang much of an opportunity to mix the martial arts. I think Angela went in for some takedowns here and there.
Starting point is 00:45:58 So, yeah, good performance. 3027 is absolutely the right score. Zhang, I don't know what her future is in the UFC. Again, she's just come in a really late time. This is clearly near the end of her career, far from the middle of it. But we'll see. We'll see if she gets a good matchups. Angela Hill, yeah, it just keeps cranking away.
Starting point is 00:46:13 People can talk about, oh, the record, but just look at who she's fought. It's nothing but tough opponents. And she deserved to get this big win. And frankly, as we said in the previous show, this should have been on the main card instead of Jake Matthews and Carlson Harris. It is 16 wins, I believe, for Angela Hill
Starting point is 00:46:27 at the stage of proceedings. Maybe that's 17 now. Are you talking about UFC wins or career? UFC wins. She has 14 UFC wins, 13 technically at 115 because there's like a catchweight scheduled catch weight bout in there
Starting point is 00:46:44 so technically 13 in the division and 19 in her career Oh okay okay yeah yeah yeah but 14 UFC wins 14 wins Less than 500 then that's unfortunate But there you go It is what it is
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Starting point is 00:48:19 AK, I think we've effectively talked about this card, and so now we do the thing. We turn it over to the viewers. Please. Y'all ask us questions. We will go for a little bit here. We're not going to stay too terribly long. AK has been up since 3.30.
Starting point is 00:48:35 I don't even know if we went to bed. I have things to do. I'm technically off right now. so I would like to get out of here because I have things to do but we always love chatting with y'all as always super chats get priority we've got a few of those so let's hop right into them now I mean a stalwart of the of the program our friend Spencer rudemeyer five dollar donation thank you fun card boys some great performances
Starting point is 00:49:00 but mountain dew finally fading and headed to bed most memorable all-nighter the mighty AK and booper have ever pulled first off there's a total savage move to have mountain dew in the morning is that is that's full blown degen spencer like that is i'm not a big coffee guy so i get not wanting to do coffee but like get a celsius or a mountain dew is that's aggressive so uh you should go to bed and your body probably needs it eat some leafy greens because that is a tough one uh i also didn't pull the all-nighter. A.K. did. I woke up. I wasn't, I did not set an alarm. I woke up at six. And so I was like,
Starting point is 00:49:49 all right, and I turned the fights on and joined in for the time being. But we do appreciate the love, Spencer. It was a good card, AK, right? Like, I had a lot of fun watching this. Decent, decent, for sure. Yeah, I like a solid like seven out of ten. I give this, if you, if you watch from bottom to top, seven out of ten, I think very enjoyable card. It's seven first round finishes which shout out to who maybe Bronstetter had the stat where that is either the record
Starting point is 00:50:17 or ties the record for most first round finishes in a UFC card pacing was pretty good there was a big gap between the prelims and the main card that was kind of a tough hang for me but otherwise like we were moving through this you know like I had a good time watching this event so yeah we uh
Starting point is 00:50:34 thank you for your support Spencer also thanks Dave 10. Again. Memberships from the boy, Dave, Dave. Dave, you're the legend, Dave. You're the legend, man. Shout out, Dave, if you got one of those.
Starting point is 00:50:46 We love that. Enjoy the emotes, boys. And then we go to our friend, Cosmo Kramer 28, also with the $5 donation. Thanks for all the great coverage this week, guys. Whose stock rose the most from this card? Maybe pick one from the main and one from the prelims. I think this is a very good question, A.K.
Starting point is 00:51:05 And I'm just kind of looking back over this. I think from the main card, the person who stock rose the most, I think, is Kaysakura. That's going to be my pick. And it's not even really that it's stock rose, but like for a lot of UFC fans, they'd heard that he was good. They'd never seen it. Now we finally got to see like what some of this hype is about and, you know, where we can get behind him. So would you agree with that from the main card? Definitely, definitely.
Starting point is 00:51:37 We need to see Kai at 135. having the UFC and boy we got it and it was beautiful it was super fun man i think we can have a lot of fun with him in this weight class uh and i i hope he sticks around doesn't get it a fool foolish idea to drop back and we just we cook with some banger matchups there from the undercard though aka this one undercard had more you know a couple of couple of good prospects on it all getting good wins who are you feeling from the undercard the most has your attention now for me to has to be one of the two bantam weights and uh i'll lean hadden i'll lean hadn't again as much as we talked about the post fight and like you know how sad that is to see um skill wise uh from
Starting point is 00:52:17 and from what i can see on social media besides to talking with a post fight promo everyone was really thrilled that just about about how he looked it's just been a shame you know for various reasons has not been able to compete the past past couple years so he's lost some time but he made up for in a big way uh e rici lang not an easy out i know haddam was favorite but erich lang as a veteran i think pretty tough to put away and hadan just you know looks like that classic modern m-ma fighter uh classic modern bantam weight just has all the physical tools and uh you know just needs to get a lot more experience like he's only fought i think this was his 10th pro fight um that's not a lot so i think his stock went up uh not too high hopefully i hope they keep
Starting point is 00:52:54 them you know sort of in the range that they've been matchmaking him but um yeah i see this guy being a player like a top 20 guy for sure almost uh maybe by the end of 2027 we can talk about it depending who uh who managed to get the octagon with i think had's the right call And largely because Ritchie Lang is just a much better fighter than You know No real disrespect to Gruley But he just won a fight like two weeks ago
Starting point is 00:53:18 But before that he was out of three Like I I'm super high on both men I mean Raceri is super young He's basically to Tzu Retirea Right Like he has to learn how to do the other parts of his game
Starting point is 00:53:31 He's 24 or whatever Like I think both men have very high ceilings And Raceru is lost as to Josh fan. Okay. That's that's perfectly fine to lose to Josh fan by decision at this stage of your career. So I think both of them are very high. I did not see the Rodrigo Verify. I'm going to check that out sometime later today, I think, because I was interested. He is also a young guy with a very gaudy record. And he apparently mowed down Kangji Zoo, but I don't, you know, I don't have like a super high opinion of Zhu. So let's see what that looks like. But I think the undercard, you could, you know,
Starting point is 00:54:07 we talked that there were some prospects and they all delivered in a big way. So that is worth it. I do want to shout out. Hold on. Let me find the comment. I just had it pulled up from a follow-up. Just so the people of the world understand. Spencer was supposed to go to bed, but we fired him up too much.
Starting point is 00:54:29 So that's why he went to the Mountain Dew. He was partying through it. He was working through things. So not just firing. down Mountain Dew at 6 in the morning because he wanted to. So, oh, thank you. Yo, thanks for the gifted. That's right, Hank Hill.
Starting point is 00:54:46 Send thanks. Send thanks to the man. Dave to the legend, Dave Sandy. One coming in right now. Canadian. Oh, is that what that awful currency is? Canadian. Z.A. dollar.
Starting point is 00:55:01 What's like 12 cents American? Correct. Actually, I think your dollar is pretty close to us at this. stage. El Gato de Santiago, 1399 Canadian, for being here early for us and for your flooded home cleanup. Yes. Thank you, Ogato. My home is clean now, but the dehumidifier is, I think I've pulled five gallons out of the dehumidifier over the last four, three days. It has been, it's been an event. But most of my, all my furniture is fine. So, but we, we do appreciate the sport.
Starting point is 00:55:37 Fire any other questions you got in here, guys. We'll take a couple more before we get out of here. The chat is less is mostly just hanging out, which I kind of love. Yeah, yeah. I'm trying to think of anyone else. Shout out. I know we mentioned Jack and Amory's shout out. Let's go to left lane because I do want to talk about raceria a little bit more.
Starting point is 00:55:56 What's the Ruea's ceiling, AK, like I said, racerie is 20. I'm going to look this up. He is 23 years old. He is soon to turn 24 next month. He is, what is he, 11 and one now, the one lost being to Josh Van in his most recent. By decision, still obviously a very limited fighter, minimal real striking skills, but super good wrestling. I think he was an accomplished amateur wrestler if memory serves.
Starting point is 00:56:25 And has transitioned pretty effectively into MMA and in this flyway division. What do you see is like, is Race Re a possible title challenger in the future? Damn. That, man. It feels too early to say. It feels too early to say because we have seen a lot of guys with good wrestling. Just never quite round out the striking. And that's okay if you're like an elite elite elite wrestler.
Starting point is 00:56:47 And he's very good. I don't know if he's elite. I don't know if he's on Tira level. Like I think Tira, and I'm not thinking about like a street wrestling match. I'm not like M.M.A wrestling. I make Rappling. I think Tira, when we saw him around the same age,
Starting point is 00:57:03 we kind of said, wow, like that is so advanced for his age. can see why there's so much hype and I just don't know if I put Ray on that tier yet but so I I'm if I had to like flip me a true or false he will fight for USC tell someday I'm going to lean towards false jennon I'm lean towards false only because bantamwait is so deep um if there were another division I may you know and he had a similar skill set I might change an age I might change my mind I just don't know if I see the path there yet so I'll I'll say false I like him a lot I think he'd be top 10 um but uh title contention no clue yet just I can't picture yet. I'm going to say true because I'm a dreamer, okay, I am daring to dream. And he's still
Starting point is 00:57:46 so young and like he's a baseline positive athlete with a natural skill set. So I'm going to choose to believe that he can fight for a belt one day. Maybe not win it, but I think of him in that sort of vein. A follow up from Spencer. Spencer, I was trying to help you, man. I was I was trying to make the world a large false. I actually fired down a two liter of mountain dew all night and was saying you guys are natural reinforcements to the dew to keep me going. Look, I'm glad for you to do the do. That's a lot.
Starting point is 00:58:20 And I hope your body is, I hope your kidneys can process that amount of mountain dew in one evening because it's a lot, it's a lot, Spencer. But thank you for the follow-up donation. I pulled a couple of questions here, A, K, very briefly, you're off tonight because you're...
Starting point is 00:58:38 Do you have any interest in watching the boxing and or other combat sports events from our friend Dave Sandine? There are a couple of boxing events. Dimitri Bivel is fighting a mandatory against a dude who's name. I already can't remember.
Starting point is 00:58:52 I heard, I heard. Yes, I'm sorry. I forgot that was today. Yes. He's going to murder him. Everybody have talked to in boxing is like, we're doing it because he has to, but like, it should be better we have.
Starting point is 00:59:02 It should be Benavides. It is what it is, but that's on Holly Home rematching Han. Their fight ended, you know, weirdly, so they're running that back. That is, I believe, the MVP card, Dave is mentioning there. Amanda Serrano is also competing on that event. And then there is a BKFC. It's going down a few hours. Darren Till makes BKFC debut.
Starting point is 00:59:27 And then, of course, there's REF tonight as well. You are off and you got to work in the morning. Are you going to be consuming any of these? is just a fan of combat sports this weekend. Only through the great website and mayfighting.com. Great website. Look, join AK. If you can't watch, you got something else going on this Saturday night,
Starting point is 00:59:45 or you just want to watch, quite frankly, Spurs, Spurs Thunder Game 7. Like, I totally get that. That would be a reasonable thing, too. Keep it locked in Mayfine.com, great website. We'll have you covered for you, AK, as an autno man. Perez Sumadirji rematch, no contest. you know, it ended weirdly, but is that a fight that we feel got to run it back?
Starting point is 01:00:08 Or do you just say, eh, we can move on to other things and it's no big deal? Yeah, let's just move on. Especially for Sumiderji, it's just like, God bless Alex Perez, man. His career is so weird. And he's always is missing out on fights. He's missed weight a couple of times. Something's always up. So if I'm Sumiderji, I'm just like, you know what?
Starting point is 01:00:27 Let's just get out of this guy's gravitational pull. Let's get out of his orbit and let's move on. Yeah, yeah. Fair enough. And, uh, okay, I think we're going to end right here on this one to more friend, Masters of the Universe Classic. Jed and A.K. Did tonight's fight with Pavlovich make you feel like he could be a contender again for a
Starting point is 01:00:44 title? I think it has to, to be honest, or I think it has to be honest in the conversation, at least, anyway. A.K., we talked a little bit about Pav, big surge, getting the dub. Not young man, but it's still heavyweight. I think, I think we can both agree. He probably fights for a belt. again, just given the nature of this weight class.
Starting point is 01:01:06 But do you think he wins a title in the UFC? Yeah, because I was going to say that the answer to the question is obviously, yes, because the UFC is going to fight for it. It's the division's bad. I don't he win. I'm trying to think who he would, who I would, okay, I don't think he'd be favored against like any one. He wouldn't be favored against Aspinall, obviously here.
Starting point is 01:01:25 I smoked by him already. He would not be favored against gone. He lost a Volkov. I think he could be Poeton. I'm not saying that. he maybe even be favored but if Poetan beats or gone which is possible and then maybe Aspinall does get his release
Starting point is 01:01:41 you know or whatever I know that that's not going to happen please don't yell at me chat but like somehow if if Poeton beats Aspinall and gone and is putting together a run I mean be Poetan like I think that's doable he does have the ability to beat anybody just by heading them even if maybe it's you know less likely against a lot of dudes,
Starting point is 01:02:03 but I don't know if I would pick him to do it. I was totally off it, and then I realized, you know what? He has like a world where Sergey Pavlovich is one half of like a vacant heavyweight title fight. And he is... Taitoivas and Derek Lewis
Starting point is 01:02:18 were both pretty close to... Oh, man. Gitting belt. Like 2027 and to 27, Sergey Polovich. Like, you know, we do our predictions at the beginning of every year. Like, oh, who will be the champs at the end of the year?
Starting point is 01:02:28 I mean, honestly, this December, January, I might just throw Sergey Pavlovich out there. Screw it. That's some fun. It's good. I just, I don't know. I don't know. Terrific. I lied. We have one more because the Super Chat came in. From Lovsided, thank you for the $2.Jed. His favor popped up in your mentions yet. He has it. And, you know, if he wants to do his dance, he certainly can.
Starting point is 01:02:51 Song Yodong won with a classic team alpha male maneuver. So that's, you know, talk your ish, man. but because I was prepared if that fight had continued along the path that did in the first round I was prepared to be like hey what's going on and also just for the record everything I said about
Starting point is 01:03:11 team alpha male and favor several other notable MMA personalities said this week too so like I don't know why favor has issue with me but I'm not wrong as I'm going to say there
Starting point is 01:03:27 but talk your shit man you you earned it this weekend so i will never be i will never change my energy you you get to do your victory lap your eye favor if you would like to take it fair enough uh okay that is going to be it for us if i was better at this this is when i would play the this music right there uh AK you said tomorrow there will be on to the next one you run in a solo ship so that means we're going to say goodbye to you but for the rest of you keep a lock and then the fightin.com this evening for all the aforementioned fights, BKFC coverage, REF coverage. You might even have a little boxing coverage.
Starting point is 01:04:05 I'm not sure if we will or not. But if something big happens, we definitely will. Otherwise, on to the next one with AK tomorrow. And then we are back to the world's most famous apex for Belaw Muhammad versus Gabriel Baum-Fem, UFC Vegas 118. There's some highlights on this card. I wouldn't call it. I mean, it's an apex card, AK, but there are some highlights.
Starting point is 01:04:28 We will have all of that covered as we prepare for the long road to freedom. The road to freedom, AK, you don't know anything about freedom. No. We've had freedom 250 times, and we are celebrating it here in just a couple of weeks as we build to the UFC Whitehouse Park. Until then, thank you for tuning and keep it locked in and find out.com. Great website. Love y'all. Bye.
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