MMA Fighting - UFC Mexico Post Show: Arman Tsarukyan Starts A Brawl At RAF 6, Lone’er Kavanagh Scores Upset Of The Year

Episode Date: March 1, 2026

Arman Tsarukyan did it again. On Saturday night at RAF 6, Tsarukyan wrestled influencer Georgio Poullas in a bout that quickly turned chaotic. Tsarukyan and Poullas got extremely physical during the wrestling match, with the referee repeatedly being forced to intervene as the bout blurred the lines between wrestling and Powerslap. Then, immediately after Tsarukyan won the match, he tackled Poullas and punched him, leading to a massive brawl in the arena. It was another instance of Tsarukyan letting his temper get the best of him, and will it once again lead to the UFC benching him in the lightweight title picture? Not only was Tsarukyan’s outburst wild, it also overshadowed the UFC Mexico event, where Lone’er Kavanagh stepped in on short notice to handle Brandon Moreno in the main event, delivering the best performance of his career as he beat up the former two-time champion over 25 minutes. Fresh off a vicious KO loss, Kavanagh rebounded as well as possible, and is now a real player in the flyweight title picture. Following RAF 6 and UFC Mexico, MMA Fighting's Alexander K. Lee and Jed Meshew react to both events, Arman’s big outburst, Kavanagh’s sensational showing, whether Moreno still has title aspirations, King Green turning back the clock, and more. Follow Jed Meshew: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@JedKMeshew⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow Alexander K. Lee: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@AlexanderKLee⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Subscribe:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ http://goo.gl/dYpsgH⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Check out our full video catalog: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://goo.gl/u8VvLi⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Visit our playlists:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ http://goo.gl/eFhsvM⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Like MMAF on Facebook: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://goo.gl/uhdg7Z⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow on Twitter: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://goo.gl/nOATUI⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Read More: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://www.mmafighting.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Hey, everybody. I am Jedd Rishu. I am not your host, but I am your producer, and A.K. Lee is your host. I'm going to unmute him so he can talk. Why can't I unmute you? I keep double clicking it. Oh, okay. Also, I was messing around with it because I think I can just override your unmute.

You can also unmute mute yourself, but the hope is that you, you won't do that. I didn't have it. I unmuted, then you muted. Oh, so we were just. And then I went to unmute again anyway. It was the door. hilarious.

The most chaotic thing that happened tonight, Jed. That was like the most. Yes, definitely the most chaotic thing. We're going to spend the next 30 minutes breaking down what just happened there because that was crazy, us not being able to figure out the microphone. What's up before? Yes, this is ostensibly the UFC Mexico, uh, Kavanaugh versus Moreno post show. But I was, uh, if you guys were in the chat with me for the last.

like 15 minutes. I wanted to give you guys an update sort of why there was a delay. You know, we had a real American freestyle coverage going down, our own Jose Young's and Mike Hecker down there. And just the event, you know, happening the same time as the UFC was like kind of messing up our timing for the post show. Then as Jets so eloquently

put it, Armans Rukian lost his damn mind. Or did another usual Armand's Trukihan thing, depending how you view his outside of the UFC and in the UFC antics. At our in the co-main event of RFC in Tempe, Arizona.

Serbian was wrestling, I'm sorry, I got to remember this guys, George Poulos, Georgio Pulas, excuse me, Georgio, Georgeo, Georgeo. George O Pulas. The man of the I can never be taken down. And if you take me down, he has to give you $1,000? Yes, that is the gimmick, which honestly, it's like a, it's a fun social media gimmick, right?

Solid. Totally makes sense. So, now, Jed, you're going to have to break down exactly what the hell happened because I was only aware of what happened. You're actually covering watch the event, but I don't say, guys, it ended after the fight in a brawl with Armand just knocking pull us over landing a few punches going to full ground and pound on them and then in a knee what and a knee and what like 50 people rushing the stage and just starting a brawl not even necessarily involving uh georgio or or uh our armants just

punching random people it's pretty it's pretty crazy you can guys find the footage everywhere but especially amyfling dot com guys all of our socials uh we got people we got feet on the ground we had two people on site which honestly paid off major and of course guys we want to talk about Lonnie Kavanaugh, beating Brandon right now. We'll get to that in just a second. Jed, what the hell happened? Why did Armand do this? How did it build up to this?

Dude, so the real reason our post show was going to be late was not so we could talk about this. It was that I was covering RAF tonight. And at the time when we were planning this out, I thought RAF was going to finish like at the same time because it started much later, but RIFs moved quickly. Ended up just not being the case. And so I was like, all, we're going to have to bump it like 20,

minutes, 30 minutes. And then it was like, well, actually this really worked out because Armand Srukiy and went crazy. Or went Armin. It was right at the start of this match. Like, if you watched any of the, nobody did. But if you had watched the RIF presser yesterday, like Armin and Georgia really sold this match up pretty well, they had been on like kind of bantery friendly terms placing wagers. And, you know, Armand tried to offer him money so they wouldn't have to cut weight.

and doing all this stuff. But basically as soon as they got in there, Giorgio, I want to, he didn't do anything like expressly awful, but he did a lot of like grimy stuff. Like he was very physical.

He was very, like he was very sloppy with the hands. And so almost immediately, Armin just stands up and complains to the ref. And like, I would say that Georgia was over the line in sort of the traditionally allowed wrestling. bend. And the

ref was just like, whatever go. And so Armand just slapped his ass, like, in the first minute of it. Like, just hauled off and cuffed him. And that, of course, got a stoppage. And it only just went downhill from there. They kept being stops. They kept, you know, being like, hey, break it up and chippiness.

At the end of the second period, they had had a good little bout of actual wrestling. And Armand tried to, like, slap hands as they walked to their cornermen. and Poulis no sold him and so that Armand just like tried to slap him again but kind of whiffed. It was all terrible. But it seemed like at the end it was going to be fine

because Armine got the takedown. Like that was the whole thing. You can't take this due down. Armine gets to take down. Armine's going to win on points, 5, 3 or 6, 4. I actually don't know how it officially ended because there were a couple of points in dispute.

But Armand's going to win. The final whistle blows. He gets up. up and he's almost on top of it anyway and he gets up and then he thinks about it for like I you can see for like a half second and then he goes ah and you shoves the shit out of pull this and I thought that was going to be the end of it and then in real time it is slowly unfolding I'm like oh no buddy because I thought he was just going to shove him down but he shoved him down and then you see him come up and like oh oh yeah you're just going to punch this dude and I don't know if it landed clean

couldn't really see with him blocking it out. He throws a straight punch before, like, the ref sort of immediately gets in there. Pullis tries to wrestle up on him, and Armand throws another knee, which I think did connect. And by this time, the match just swarm.

It is chaos for, like, five minutes. A pretty big brawl breaks out from other people. I don't know who they were, like people in the stands or invested in it, because, like, so many people had gathered around, Armin and Poulis, like that had kind of, wasn't allowed to carry on.

Total anarchy, R.E.F. The commentary team was denouncing it immediately. And they didn't give, I think rightly so. Like, they didn't come back and do a, Armand Surukian wins and talk to Armand Sarukian. They just moved on to the main event between Henry Sehudo and Uriah Fabor. So another really bad look for Armand Sarucan, AK. I feel like I've defended Armand on some occasions.

I don't know why I've done it. I think probably because I want to see him, like, I think he's a great fighter, and I want to see him fight, you know, I want to see him fight for the title. I want to see him fight for whoever has the belt and want to see him fight. I want to see him get that Islam fight back. Like I've tried to rationalize some of the Armand-sur-Ruoyan experience. I've been amused by his grappling side quests. I've been saying that's a great idea to stay busy if the EFC's not going to give him what he wants.

I think he does a great job with social media. Like we, you know, we need that in this business, right? We need fighters who are able to promote themselves and become stars and deliver in the cage. He's a great fighter. But man, these incidences have added up, and it's just impossible not to like kind of see what supposedly, you know, the UFC sees when they're making decisions about Armands career. Because it's like, oh, why isn't this guy fighting for the belt?

And Dana White has, you know, somewhat alluded to and somewhat straight up said, yeah, this got, look, the headbutt of Dan Hooker. And then there's other things that have us, you know, not really wanting to commit to putting him into these huge spots. and then you see something like this and obviously it affects Armin. I don't know how it's going to affect the relationship with the UFC.

I don't know how it's going to affect how the UFC views Real American Freestyle. Not to blame. It's not Real American Freestyle's fault. But I saw a lot of the reactions on social media with people saying, man, it's the UFC going to be like, hey, we don't want our guys doing this stuff anymore.

I know they've already announced, apparently, you know, Henry Suhuto was in the main event. Apparently he's going to welcome Marab Daweshaw to Really to Real American Freestyle, which is super cool. But in the future, That graphic came out quick. Kind of like they knew that was happening. Boom.

Already, man. So let's say they, you know, there's no issue with that. That gets resolved. Because I know R.EF announced stuff quick because that's happening. That's in April? April or May? I don't remember when the film. I can't remember.

Because they said when Mara was. Yeah. Yeah, I don't remember when that is. It'll be in the next three months. They don't, they don't push these things too far ahead, which is smart. Which is why they've gotten so much momentum. But Jed, do you think there's any chance to UFC kind of, if not puts a hard ban, like kind of tells managers and tells fighters, like,

I don't know this environment is working for us right now and working for our fighters. No, because honestly, it's, I mean, this one's on Armin. And I don't think they're going to punish Armin either. Because, like, I don't, I truthfully just don't think they punished Armin for the Dan Hooker thing. I think the punishment Armin is facing is not because of his actions. It's because Patty Pimbleau is more famous than he is. And they wanted Patty to fight for a belt and not him. And so that's just what happened.

if Armand was more famous and popular than he would have gotten it. So I don't think there's going to be any repercussions. You know, maybe Dana will like throw an offhand comment if someone asks him about it. But I doubt it will carry forward. It'll be like, yeah, you know,

he's a bit of a crazy guy. Now you can see why we, you know, have some concerns about him or whatever. And, you know, like this is the first time this has ever happened at RIF. This is not like a thing that happens in it. you know, it did happen specifically because that guy, like, Georgia O'Poulos was being words that I can't say on our stream.

Let's put it that way. But like at the same time, Armand, we live in a society. You can't assault people. That's not how that's, like, that's just not how this works. And while I think Georgia O'Poulos was going over the line of what is allowed in a contact sport, Armand undisputably went over the line in what's allowed in society. Like they were no longer competing.

He just hit the dude. You can't do that. Like I'm sorry. That's just not how things work. I think that though, like ultimately, I don't think that guy got like seriously hurt. And so this will just be one of those things that we all kind of like, man, that's a bad look.

And nothing like no legal action comes from it or anything. And that'll be fine. But, you know, Armin's been riding real high. Like he is maybe the most popular fighter, like, of the last few months. And I don't know how this is, I don't know if this is going to turf it. I don't know if this is just going to give him more credibility for the fan base. But it doesn't feel like it's a good thing that you have become synonymous with losing your temper.

Like, nobody likes the guy who's a loose cannon. And he's, you know, this is the Charlie. day always sunny thing like no we don't want loose cannon here you know and he is really leaning into that in in a tough way i think uh by the way debaughes freely and so hoodo april eighteenth april 18 so there you go right right around the corner uh we're just six six weeks away about six weeks away um yeah quick stuff there well i'm i'm sorry i can't i'm not sure if you if you made a statement about this uh is r a f done with arman do you think there maybe oh i didn't i didn't i didn't i think they probably will be, but maybe not, right?

Like, I don't think he's going to be in the next couple because you, at least give it a little bit of breathing room from this thing. But, you know, like, I suspect that if, if they have a matchup that feels intriguing for him, they might bring him back and then they can talk about it in the same way that, you know, the UFC was like, the Connor Bus incident is the worst thing that's ever happened. And then suddenly it's in promo packages. Like, I think that. they may they may take a breather right they may not go right to it but i bet he'll do it again

before too terribly long he'll you mean he'll he'll wrestle for raf again not not assault for one i mean hopefully that he won't assaults i was going to ask what's your what's what's what's going to happen first jay what i'm an assault this is his third assault i think right because there was the dude in the crowd that he punched i forgot um then he had buddy dan hooker and unless I'm missing one and all three of those are just not like those are not the behaviors of a grown man and that's just it

like that that is the behavior of somebody who has let their emotions get the better of them and are not to be condoned but I also don't think that we need to like clutch our pearls so if the guy gotten hurt be a way different story but I don't think he did so it's just like yeah bad look man and let's be a good

be honest, a guy like Pulis is, you're right, the fact they didn't get hurt, he kind of loves, probably extremely happy. He's got, he's an influencer guy, right? He's like an influencer guy. To the best of my understanding, that's his primary source of income. He is going to milk this footage as much as he can for the, for the foreseeable future, as he should. He's the guy involved in the incident. He's the guy who signed up to be put in this dangerous situation. And yeah, wow. I want to be clear. Armand shouldn't have done this for a number of reasons. the biggest being we live in a society, act like an adult.

The second is, this is exactly what Poulis wanted, right? Like, this is, and credit to Ben Ascran, who was actually a joy to have as, like, they brought him in into the Dean Thomas role of, ah,

let's go to Ben Ascran between periods and have him say something. And he was just doing whatever he wanted to, who would just say whatever he wanted and ripping on this Poulis guy, but he kind of nailed it earlier. He was like, Poulis isn't actually very good wrestler

you know, like he was not, look at his record, he wasn't a very good collegiate wrestler. He probably can't beat Armand straight up. He's just trying to cheese out a win by getting him angry and getting him to DQ himself. And yeah, like, that's, that's right. Like, he is, he is an influencer. His currency is attention. And this is, this gave him all the attention he wanted. So for that reason, Armand shouldn't have done it as well.

But, yeah, man, it was, the brawl's pretty wild. like a lot of people got involved very quickly. Yes. And just started randomly attacking other people from what I could see. Again, I'm not there. I'm just going from the various. We are our footage. Of course,

a lot of other angles of it. I just saw some people like just randomly going. Again, maybe they. I don't know why that like there's one really bad like swing in action happening in the crowd. I don't know what that one was about. But like, you know,

once a bunch of people rush the stage, chaos ensues. All bets are off, I guess. So yes, your two most talk about fires of the night. are really, Armand Sarikian and Georgia Foolist, if you want to classify him as a fighter,

I think we knew there was a chance, like, you know, like you said, Jed, we were planning for this to be a UFC-Mexico show. We knew we'd have to mention R.EF, of course. You got some big names on there. I mean, you had So you had Sohudo and Uriah Fabor at the top, you know. So we figured we'd discuss it. I don't know if we knew we'd be discussing it from this angle and to this extent. No.

Especially after the result we got at Mexico. I, early on, I was just like, oh, we're going to talk about this, because I genuinely thought Armand was going to get DQed. I didn't think that it would happen like this, but he slapped him like 15 seconds into the match. Like he and like a full blown slap. I was like, dude,

if you're going to slap a dude 15 seconds into the match, this thing ain't going to finish. Armand slapped him. Armand slapped him. Yeah. I mean, Pulist was doing like a lot of like cuffing hand, like head fighting.

Armand just like power slap popped him. Like it was, there's no view you could be. be like, oh, that's just aggressive wrestling. He slapped his ass. So I thought a good thing, but, you know, instead we got this. And RIF, look at them go, man. It is off to, man, RF is off to a hot start, man.

They're a hot start. Like in general, and in 2026, boy, I mean, they are, like we said, they got another event, April 18th, guys, that is not far away. They're welcoming Maraud Walsh, Phile. This is correct, Dave Stenine. What of the five fingers did the face? Never anything nice. It's a glass.

It was genuinely really funny because Poulos did not see it coming. It was like, what the fuck? Dude, what just happened? And listen, nobody got hurt so we can laugh about it. Thank goodness. I hope nobody got, I guess we'll get an extended injury report at some point. But I hope known in the audience. Some dude may have broken his sternum earlier in the evening, but that was wild.

So, like, we should, the thing is, we should really be talking about Lonnie Kavanaugh. If we knew how this fight would turn out, I mean, we would say, oh, yeah. It's kind of a fun night of fights at Mexico, by the way. It wasn't that at all. I actually quite enjoyed UFC Mexico. Definitely did not the slog through the prelims that UFC Houston was. I think right from the get-go, we got off to a nice start. So, but let's start with the minute of a minute.

We definitely give flowers the prelives later. The UFC certainly did. You guys will discuss the bonuses in a moment as well. And some people who you wouldn't expect got some fat six-figure bonuses, probably life-changing money for some of these fighters. But yes, Lonnie Kavanaugh, guys, defeats Brandon Moreno via unanim. decision, I think, fairly convincing. 49, 46, 248, 47 scorecards.

I stay convincing because I personally could not find three rounds for Brandon Moreno in that fight. It was grimy. It was gritty at times. At times, Lonnie really, really got to show off just what an incredible talent he is. His striking look unbelievable. His execution of his team's game plan was on point.

And sure enough, he has now beaten a fighter who I believe entered the fight number five in the UFC's ranking. me check real quick. I think he might have been number six. Number six, number six, the OCS rankings, number seven in our rankings.

So just outside the top five. And Lonnie Kavanaugh not ranked at all. I think people were telling me he was ranked and for some reason got dropped out ahead of he was he was ranked coming into this like on Sunday. He was, I think, 15. Yes.

He just in his spot now. Yeah, they did a random ranking shake up. Great. Like I don't know what happened, but he just suddenly was unranked. Yeah. So weird.

And I think, I think this is the first time Morenoe fought an unranked opponent. I could be right. I know he fought Ryan Benoid a long time ago, but I think back then Benoit was ranked. I mean, Flywood was pretty thin, but I could be wrong. So it's either Benoit or it's Lonnie

Kavana. Either way, the point is Brandon Marino rarely fights anyone without a number next to their name, and certainly rarely loses to them, which is what happened pretty convincingly. Jed, there's a lot to tackle here. What's your big takeaway? What's your big takeaway after the

bit. My big takeaway is that my boy, my boy's here. I was, we talked about it in the preview show a little bit, despite our technical difficulties, as big on Lonnie Kavanaugh coming off contender series. He had not performed in a way that I had expected. His wins in the UFC were good, but not like dominant wins. And he was looking very good against Charles Johnson before he got slept. But as I said, like this was a huge opportunity, really big,

risk in the fact that like this is a tough fight to win but you know this is the Josh van stepping in on a two weeks notice or whatever to to fight Brandon or a ball like he's coming off a loss and now suddenly he can be in the top of this division and i wouldn't say it was a perfect performance um and there could be reasons for that right okay but go ahead jett why would you why would you say that well because i thought he was going to throw the fight away Because he very clearly, I thought he very clearly won the first round. And that was the round. That round is how I looked at it.

I picked him to win. I picked him to get knockout in third round. It was actually not that far off of that. And I thought that he had a style that could be difficult for Brandon Moreno to deal with. But my concerns were as this fight goes on, he was preparing to fight Bruno Silva for three rounds in Vegas. And now he's going at altitude five rounds, former two-time champion. and the early rounds he looked really good. And around the third round, he really fell off.

And I think you could still give the third round to him, but that's the first round you could make a very, like a good, solid case to give to Brandon Moreno. And then the fourth round, he was just held against the fence almost the entire round. And the part that frustrated me is he landed a low kick that had Brandon Moreno, like visibly limping and bouncing and trying to get. and he simply did nothing after that.

And maybe it was just that he was a little tired. He was trying to conserve energy. He let Brandon Mrain off the hook in the second round when I think if he had gone for it, he was getting that finish. But he ultimately stayed patient. And then it got to the point where I thought he was being a little too patient. And, you know, hostile environment. The three of those rounds were close-ish.

I scored it three, three-two plus a 10-8 round for Lonnie Kavanaugh. But we were talking in the slack and I was like, I wouldn't at all be surprised if they gave this to Moreno. I think it would have been pretty close to a robbery, but ultimately that wasn't the case at all, a clean, sweet for him. And that's good. I think they got it right.

But I felt that he really, the scorecards are closer than that, like that fight was. Pride rules, this is a runaway win for Lonnie Kavanaugh. I could find two rounds for Moreno. I just I scored at 4-946 I actually gave four rounds to Kavanaugh

but yeah I could I could see I three three for Moreno maybe four I don't know if I yeah maybe three four and five are the rounds you have like you have to get Moreno yeah four is the one where I think it's tougher because just very clearly the the damage was done by by far but but for a minute of that fight were brandon Moreno holding him against the fence and so

and again as a judge I know it's easy to be influenced by that. But for me, when I see someone holding someone against the fence, I'm immediately not clocking that as relevant damage. And that's how the rules certainly now are really enforced, too. If nothing else had happened in the round, absolutely Moreno could have taken those. But again, like you said, there was the light kicks. There was like there was just enough, I think, in some of those rounds for me to say, yeah, I'm leaning towards Kavanaugh here.

But two at most could not see three from Moreno. If it had gone the other way, I probably would have done the first robbery review in a while. And I don't know if I would have landed firmly on robbery. but I think this is a fight when people look back on it. It's going to age really well for Kavanaugh. I know, Jed, you would have seen the finish possibly. And I think it's going to age really badly for Brandon. And I don't want to take away from a Kavanaugh did.

Like, you know, the more we criticize Brandon Mraino's performance than the more we're saying, you know, we're not giving Kavanaugh's flowers. Because I will say this about Kavanaugh not going for the finish. Yes, I think we want to see that. And I think as he gets older, he'll get better, of course, reading those situations, just instinctually. But Brandon Mrado, I think you guys are watching, he was doing a lot of wild stuff.

Just just no setup, wild right hand, wild, like he was doing a lot of wild stuff. And I think if you're calvin on his team, your thought is the only way we're getting caught by something like that is if we are over-aggressive, over-extend. So they probably could have been more confident in their boy to just like, yeah, just go for it and end it. But I understand, like, they felt like,

listen, we're winning this round, we're winning this round, we're won that round. They thought he was four-up after around. very concerning part i thought his cornering heading into the fifth was straight up bad yeah didn't love that didn't love them saying that but i i do think they were probably the fights on short notice not full preparation i think they had to be a little bit cautious and so that's why it just because you just don't want to risk that him came getting caught by that shot because marino does have some power and could have rocked him especially after what happened with the charles johnson fight right you know only a three

round fight but that was another fight Lonnie looks great just gets caught and gets taken out so um i i don't want to fully criticize the young man but yes he will grow from this jet i think he'll only get better after this fight i totally understand not pressing the issue in the round the second round i think he should have but i'm also sitting on the couch and i've got hindsight but like i that one i can understand because okay if i go for it and i don't get it and now this is round two at altitude a fight i'm really not prepared for that if i blow my gas tank i'm gonna lose i could totally understand that round four was the one that really frustrated me

because I it was possible that at the end of that round he was going to be two two heading into the fifth and I was a round where like he had Moreno limping and he simply just didn't follow it up which is a very frustrating thing to watch and then you go back in his corner saying you're up for nothing just and they clearly

and it appears that they were correct I haven't looked at the official scorecards to know what rounds went where but it seemed like they were All three of the first rounds were unanimous for Cabin. Okay. So then they were right then brought big picture in their corner. But they were like, you're up four rounds. Like the big piece of advice was Brandon Mariners getting tired, which I'm not entirely sure was true.

And keep your right hand right here. Don't get caught like you can do against Charles Johnson. It was very clear that that was at the fore of their mind. And ultimately, that was right. But I would have liked them to have a little. more urgency and be like, dude, just go hammer his leg five times and he's going to fall over and die. Because I think that's like it wouldn't have taken that many more,

I don't think. But ultimately, this is nitpicking for the best win of his career by far. And, you know, it's early. But, AK, this could be one of those transformative Josh Van beat Brenner-Royvall. And suddenly he's the flyweight champion. Like Lonnie Kavanaugh just lost to Charles Johnson. And I got to tell you, he's,

probably one fight away from fighting for the belt now. Van famously unranked going into 2025, at least in our rankings, and the UFC, I'm pretty sure as well, unranked. Because I think he had also had a recent loss to Charles Johnson, which he kind of barred him from, you know, making substantial move up the charts. And, yeah, ended the year with the UFC gold around his waist. Could Lonnie Kavanaugh follow the same path? Obviously, guys, we kind of know what this means for Lonnie, like we said.

He'll have an impressive number next to his name on Tuesday when the U.S. rankings are updated. We're going to shake up our rankings too. I'm very curious to see, like, does he just take Moreno's spot in another six or seven? Or are we dropping Moreno down, you know, considerably and then putting Lonnie in front of there. So I think Lonnie firmly in the top 10. A little mix, I think is how far in the top. And, you know, Jed's a pretty ambitious rank.

I don't know, Jed, you're going to go crazy and just throw Lonnie in the top. I have to put Charles Johnson above him. Like, I can't put him as Thomas Johnson. I mean, it's not MMA. He's not in my math. He just beat, like Charles Johnson knocked him out. He has to go above. Hold on, but hold on.

No, no, listen, this is going to send us down a dark path, though, because Charles Johnson lost to Alex Perez. Yeah, I don't know, man. And you can't put Alex Perez back in, like, the top seven? I can't. I don't know what I'm going to do. It's going to be weird because, like, it's, I don't know how to justify.

Charles Johnson knocked him cold like four months ago. I know, but I think this has to be a case of what have you done for me lately. And that's so unfair to Charles Johnson because you're right. He, as far as we know from recent data, is better than Lonnie Kavanaugh. He beat up in a fight. That's the best way to gauge these things. That's the only way to know these things for sure. And it happened.

I'm glad we're doing a shake up this week because I am curious. I'll tell you right now. I'm going straight up broken MMA math and just who won recently. Like I'm sorry, Charles Johnson totally getting screwed. Maybe I'll bump him up and like put him in my rankings. But I'm not going to be in my rankings. But then again, Alex, Prez is very confusing.

That's probably fine to put Perez in the rankings. So maybe it's not as clear what's happening to Kavanaugh, as I just said. I think I am more likely to lower Brandon Moreno than I am. Lonnie's going to move up. He can't not move up. But I think Moreno is going to take a pretty big drop in my rankings. I'm interested. We're doing guys, look for that on the next Monday, Tuesday.

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Gane a fight in front of his people. That's all you want to do. This is great for your legacy, you know, constantly fighting in your home country. Losing in your home country, not always great for the legacy. So is this it? Is this it? Is his path to a title? Is it over?

Yeah, I think it's gone. A third time. I think it's gone. And on the one hand, like I, when we originally met Brandon Marino on the Ultimate Fighter, I did not have big, big views for him.

I believe he was like, they were seated. I think he was 15th or 16th or 16. Yeah. And didn't look great. And then once he got in the UFC, he was how long wheels. And,

you know, I don't think most people didn't think he was going to win the belt. and then he won it twice and like has really overachieve the expectations for him in a pretty substantial way and that it to me is something we should always celebrate uh i do have serious concerns that the mileage is catching up to him this is due has been fighting like 15 years professionally a lot of it at the very highest level that just adds up i know he's not that old i think he's like 32 33 but again it's just a lifetime of a battle it kind of chips away at you

and we're starting to see cracks in the armor he got buzzed pretty bad by Lonnie Cabinol in the second round he got finished by Tetra retired last time out I think his title aspirations are done but he's still a super popular guy super fun guy we can

have fights with him he can move up to Bannamweight and maybe have some fun scraps there like there's plenty to do with Brandon Marino we don't have to you know just like write him off entirely if he wanted to

walk away. I think that'd be awesome. I would love it if fighters walked away a little sooner. But if you want to stick around for a bit and still fight at 125, fight up at 135, it'd be great. Like, I think he's a future Hall of Famer. And that's, that's pretty sick, man. That's pretty cool to be All of Famer. A lot of mileage on this guy. We mentioned it before. 15 years as a pro. UFC debut October 2016. That was the first run. And really, he was only out of the year. Yeah, for like one fight. So it's essentially been almost 10 years, well over nine years at very, very high level

competition. So I hope Brandon's okay. That was a very tough fight. Like, I mean, his whole body is going to be aching in the morning. That was a very tough fight. And I think you're right. You know, we can lament him, you know, being out of the title picture at least at 125 for now.

But he's done so much. And there's so many, there's still fun fights ahead. It doesn't have to be, he doesn't have to be a gatekeeper. I think I want to say there's veterans in this division that he still hasn't fought, maybe though he has fought everyone um but yeah the big things to a brand of marina for everything he's done we don't need to eulogize him yet he could fight for another five years right he could fight for another five years right he still is really young in that regard in real world years yeah but yeah i mean there's other stuff for him to do in this weight class that would be fun or there's we could

have some fun at 135 like that's all that's fine and he will always have a home in the promotion because they go to mexico and they do noche that those are two fights a year that the UFC would be absolutely thrilled to have him be a part of in some fashion. Jed, I'm going to skip over the Komenade event here for a second because I think we need to get to one of the more compelling stories. Also, the co-main event, the result is sort of part of a bigger narrative I'm going to address in the moment. Let's talk about the featured lightweight bout, Jed.

I don't know if you heard about this fight. I don't know if you're looking forward to it, if you had any investment in it, Jedd. Daniel Zell Huber, you're familiar? Never heard of him. He fought King Green. uh down zelver very talented young fighter again gained a fight in his uh his native mexico he's not that he's not he's he's not a very talented young fighter oh why okay well listen he uh not only lost to king green as a pretty um sizable favorite i'm trying to see the odds here down zelle here

minus 400 depending where you look guys hovering around was 400 is a favorite uh if you watch the show people no bet's barred a jed host that he looks at he looks at thing called the climb. And Zal Heber was part of this, part of this climb. Again. Again. The problem is, I blame all of you.

If you are watching this right now, you're to blame. Because on Thursday's BTL, or Wednesday's BTL, we did BTL Wednesday this week because Mike's in wherever this RIF is, Arizona. And I was like, do we believe in second chances? Are we a family?

The MMA fighting family, which you are all part of. Do we believe in second chances? And the overwhelming sense was, yeah, we do believe in second chances. Let's let Daniel Zell Huber get a second chance. And AK, this was exactly a second chance. Here's an old guy,

almost on his way out the door, that Daniel Zell Huber is a huge favorite over, and on paper should just hit one time in the face, and that should be the end of it. And so I said, yep, let's, you know what? Because while Daniel Zell Huber killed a climb, previously the best climb by the way yes uh that climb would also have died the very next fight with kevin holland so they both kind of killed the climb you didn't hold it was a joint effort you didn't

solely blame him for what happened there it was frustrating in the moment but you were like by the end of the night you were like well look look he had my left hand and kevin haunt had my right hand to throw me off the mountain wasn't a solo effort so we're going to give him a chance we believe in redemption stories. And I knew the other two climb bets. We had a little bit of stress. We can be honest. The Rodriguez fight was a little stressful for a period.

The Damiena Pino's fight was deeply not stressful. And within 30 seconds of this fight, I knew it was over. Like I was mentally resound like, oh, because as soon as Bobby Green started being Bobby Green and just like talking and moving and doing the 52 blocks thing. You could just see Daniel Zellhuber's whole brain implode. I don't know what to do.

And I don't know how you don't expect that. It's Bobby Green. That's what he's going to do when you were fist fighting him. And he immediately was just like, I don't, I don't know, I'm not going to throw punches anymore. I'm going to pressure you to the cage. I'm just going to stand there. And he got cooked for it.

This is a kid with plenty of talent and does not seem to have it between the years. I knew you were in trouble went twice. Zell Huber, he started up round one and right, not round three, I don't think, round one and round two by rushing across the cage, no glove tap, and like,

and then look like, oh, he's going to just pounce on King Green and doing absolutely nothing. Got right in his face and then just stood there and looked at him. Like ran up to him and just kind of stood there. And I'm like,

if you're going to do, like, don't go 80% of the way. You got to throw a flying knee. You got to throw a bright hook. Like, at least make a statement. I had no idea what that meant.

rushing across no glove tap and then no attack and then as soon as bobby green started doing stuff it it broke his brain and zell you even said like in the michael after the michael johnson like michael johnson was talking trash to him in the pre-five buildup and it kind of messed with him and it's just like buddy if you can't handle that you can't handle this game if like you you have to have it between the years in the sport to compete like you have to you have to have to have that level, you have to have to just be able to block it out and be crazy at times. Like, much less just not wilt because somebody is talking to you. I knew almost instantaneously it was over and I was just hoping against hope that he might

like land a random piece of offense. But frankly, full credit to King Green. Like that was, absolutely. This is a dude who I've buried several times. And I was really confident and we were burying him this time. because like the Lance Gibson win was not great. And he's just like, yeah, man, he's out. Finds new life.

Look at him go. The guy has fought over 50 times. I mean, he is the definition of an M.A. lifer. He just finds away, man. He keeps finding away. Yeah, so full credit to him. Not an easy guy to fight. You're right.

You feel like Zellupy and his team should have been more prepared for this because it really looked like they had no clue who King Green was, what his whole deal is. it was really strange to watch. So Jed, will you in the future, I think most importantly, take my advice when I say, please, not with everything, you definitely know more about gambling than I do. Second chances have to be earned. And Dennis L. He was not.

He doesn't get any more. No, I hope not. But I mean, for other people, he seems like a sweet young boy. I just don't know what he did to regain your trust in the time of between. I literally just asked the people. and they were like, yeah, we believe in second chances. Why did they tell? Why did they do this?

I don't know. Why did you? I thought it would work. You and I had a private. You did. The people as a collective were on the side of the angels. And that's not the side to be on, apparently. And look, I paid $100 to learn who my enemies are.

And that is valuable information, AK. And now I know who one of my enemies is. And his name is Dan himself. This is such a Han in Tokyo. drift moment where uh when sean destroys his car why did you let me why'd you let me drive your car learn the character of you is man some people that's more important can't put a price on that can't can't can't put a price on it i can't it's a 100 dollars is the price i put on learning who my enemies are um as you said you this wasn't this actually was a pretty enjoyable card and i will say

that's fun well booked like honestly well booked by the matchmakers for what i think were their intentions, you know, not to dip too much and do pro wrestling parlance here, guys, but I think whoever they were trying to get over outside of again, whoever we just mentioned, I don't want to talk about the fight anymore. They did pretty well. Like I would think, so Damien, a lot of the heavy favorites one. So Damien Pina is obviously a guy they think has a lot of promise, takes out West Schultz, no problem.

Francis Marshall, they put him up with a guy who's like 38 years old and hasn't fought in over two years, unsurprisingly. Francis Marshall runs through him. I think Regina Taryn and I'm not sure they knew what to explain. expect, but she did a great job in her short notice debut and won a fight of the night bonus, by the way. So congrats to Regina Taron and Ernesto Karat Saidi. Very deserved. I think that was a fun of the night.

It was a really fun fight. 100 grand for both women. That was great. Javier Reyes runs to an old Douglas Silva to Androj, Christian Cunas against Chris Moutinio. Eileen Perez, a women's band to make contender, keeps rising. Ryan Ganger runs to MEDNA in longer than I expected, actually. I said 30 seconds. It took him 41.

And then Santiago Luna, Imola Rodriguez, Edgar Chiras, all picking up wins for the home team, as it were. So they booked this really, really, really well. If it was to promote, again, fighters, either they like or just fighters who have any from Mexico, they nailed it. They nailed it. And, of course, the main event. But I don't know. Again, even then, if you're the UFC, yeah, maybe a little bad feeling for the supporters of Brandon Marino that were there tonight. But in the long run, damn, man, another player in the flyweight division.

So big, big props to that. Jed, do you think any of these results? Like, what do you feel was the most meaningful outside of sort of the fights we've already discussed? I mean, the most meaningful is the co-made, certainly. Oh, I forgot we didn't. We haven't discussed the co-man. And that is certainly the most meaningful. Go ahead.

I do want to echo your sentiment. We talked about this in a preview show. I thought that this might be a fun card. There were some dull moments, but I also think those were moments we could have anticipated, right? Like I don't think anybody thought Eileen Perez, Mesa Cheson was going to be super fun. And it wasn't. But it was meaningful. And so that matters.

We kind of know that Chris Mutino is super tough and that he was probably just kind of get whaled on by Kenonez for a while. But like the rest of these, we got a lot of people running roughshod. And that was sort of how this was set up. And that can be enjoyable. I have found the Paramount pacing to be worse. so that has made it a little worse for me overall. But yeah, if we're talking meaning A.K., we knew this would happen,

so this is not a surprising thing. We could have had this conversation. We could have had it on Tuesday. And it would have been the same conversation that we're going to have right now because everybody knew how David Martinez versus Malin Chido Vera would go. And it went almost exactly how we all thought it would go. I will say, I do think Cheeto maybe looked like a hair more active in the opening two rounds, but he still wasn't active.

He still convincingly lost the first two rounds, primarily because David Mordinas did stuff, and he did not do stuff, because that is the Cheeto Vera story. Until the third round. At least we got third round Cheeto, which we hadn't seen in his last fight. And in the third round, he, I think he won. on all three scorecards. He certainly wanted on my scorecard. He looked, Martinez had slowed down considerably.

So some of this is he came alive as Martinez was no longer as nimble and kind of hard to be hit. I'm sure that's a part of it. But Cheeto just, like, showed more initiative. And when he does, he still looks very dangerous. The problem is Dave Martinez is actually super tough. He ate like a pretty clean head kick and was just like, that's fine. so the Cheeto game plan doesn't work. Like I don't know,

AK, like maybe Cheeto needs to do the thing like, was it Donald Seroni? I mean, Donald Seroni was also a notoriously slow starter. And like for that like peak period of his career, uh, their,

their solve was, we're just going to fight for seven minutes backstage before we walk out. And they just did like live fire in the locker room. That's not bad. So then he was in the, middle of a fight when he started fighting. Maybe Chino just needs to do that, man. I don't know what the solution is.

I don't think he's going anywhere. We talked about this before the show. I have some people saying, you know, it'll be what, four straight losses? Four, five straight losses now? Where are we now? I think that this is five. Five out of six.

Five of six. Five of six. He's not going anywhere. Again, he's a company man. He loves him. But yeah, what can they do to like, you know, still make good use of him other than just trotting him out there to get beat up by guys. I'm not sure. I'm not entirely sure yet. But yeah, this was a very predictable

result. Good for Dave Martinez. He'll, he already has a number next to his name. Now I think in the USC's rankings, he'll probably jump into the top 10. You don't be anybody in the in the rankings currently or is all, all, are all his wins just old old dudes? I think they're all old dudes. They're all old dudes. Pager Munoz Cruz. Rob Font. That was some time ago, Rob Fond. Oh, he still is ranked. So, okay, there's that. But is an old breaks off, prop font. Yeah, it was a no country for old men night guys. We had, you know, Marlon Vera, Brandon, if you want to come.

Hey, hey, King Green. King Green was the one who defied it. Jen, I was trying not to bring that up for you. And I learned who my friends are. And Helviceko had not fought in two years. Jose Medina, God bless his heart for making it to the UFC somehow. I think for his own health, it's probably good that we don't see him again. Douglas Salvador Dandra has told you guys he's 40 years old.

Eric Silva is almost 40. So, yeah, if you were an older fighter on this night, it wasn't a good time. But just to quickly answer my own question, I was really impressed by Rahina Tarreen. I think that's how it is. Hell yeah. Who, yeah, doesn't jump down a moment. She was a talked about prospect before like this week, guys. I think people would just.

She's like famous. Yeah. She got a call up from the WWE. Like she was on their radar, not a call up for stage. Not a call up. A tryout with their, you know, the developmental side of things. And a lot of people do. That's not like a super special thing.

Every so and so many months, they invite like 20, 30 athletes, influencers, models, bodybuilders, whatever, various people from sports and entertainment to like have a tryout. So she was just one of those people. I don't know how far she got in that, but it doesn't matter. Like you said, Jed, clearly there's something about her that is on people's radar that sees some sort of star potential, some real sports entertainment potential. And she showed up really well. Again, very nice debut. She won extra 100K. And I know Jed, you're not against this anytime soon.

I still think her and Carly Judis will be a great fight someday. I mean, I think that would be a fun fight. I think I think probably would chew her up right now. I mean, you have to say that. Do you want to take a guess at how many Instagram followers Regina Turin has? 21 years old and made her UFC debut. I'm going to be conservative here. I'm going to say it's got to be less than a million.

That's correct. Okay. 21-year-old UFC fighter. Okay, I'm going to generously, I vote generously 400,000. Close. 315. For a 21 year old making her UFC debut,

whose real fame is that she fought in Combate, which I know is the most successful in a promotion in the world. Shout out. Camel McLaren, I'm not talking shit. Please don't DM me about talking shit. Like, this is pretty good for a person who's, you know, fighting gungombate. There have been fighters who have been in the UFC for like 10 years who are not cracking

50,000. Dude, I will bet you almost anything you want that Ernest Scarecate Katie has like less followers than I do. And I would say a fraction of the followers that Rahina Toreen has. So, yeah, good for her. Again, how good is she? I don't know, guys. It's way too early.

She's 8 in 0 now. She's scrappy. She's scrappy. I think she doesn't have like a super high ceiling because she's not like. like a great athlete. But the problem is that actually might just not matter because who are the great athletes in women's MMA right now? Like that's,

it's still Shevchenko who's been fighting for 25 years and is a miracle of modern science. Yeah. Yeah. It's, it's an interesting division as far as like what kind of future does it have. I don't know the immediate future for it. Like I said, we love Carly Judis.

We love some of the other fighters. But it's unclear necessarily what the path is for some of these young prospects. But I'll add Reina Toreen to that list. I think she looked great. And again, overall, I think a really fun night at Adena CDMX. I was going to show up my Spanish alphabet, but I realize I don't know it, so I didn't do it. Okay, I don't have that one off my head. Oh, sorry, I forgot to mention the two performance of the night bonuses, guys.

I'm all Rodriguez. And thankfully, I love when they give performance bonuses to decisions to got people who won by decision, Lonnie Kavanaugh. Usually, of course, it's only finishes, and they had a lot of finishes to choose from. But I think when you beat a former, well, I don't want to say, if you beat a two-time UFC champion and do so, I think in pretty good, impressive fashion, you deserve a performance bonus. So good for Lonnie. He's getting 100K. Imunarrega's getting 100K. We said, Rahina and Ernesta are getting 100K and then 25K to all the finishers.

But, yeah, I'm sure if you're King Green, you're feeling some type of way. I think I probably actually would have given it to King Green for a performance bonus. I would have, too, instead of. Like, I wouldn't give it to Ryan Gander. You don't get a performance bonus for killing Jose Funky Corridor. Or Damien Pina. I'm sorry. Sorry, David Pina.

The problem with Damiena is he never stood a chance to get it because West Schultz looked stone terrified the moment the fight started. I don't blame him. So you can't win a performance bonus when the performance is you took your shirt off and that dude didn't want me part of what was happening. Because that is what that fight was. I don't call that's how I felt about a few fighters that trotted out today. Like they some people got, some people got sacrificed tonight.

Okay, well, yeah. Some people got sacrificed today. Dude, West Schultz, I felt bad for him. I don't remember who the ref was. But like pretty clearly after the first knockdown, it was like, you could just stop this. It doesn't need to be stopped, but he doesn't want to be doing this.

And they were like, oh, stand up, do it again. Stand up, do it again. We had some adventures in fishing today. What was the, what was the Herb Dean moment of the night today? Oh, the Herb Dean, no. Oh, I don't know who the ref was for the Perez Jason. Poor Zell Cooper. Oh, yeah, so we had two.

Zell Huber probably took some extra punishment. He didn't need to take, like, even King Green. King Green literally stopped the fight himself. He stopped the fight himself, and he was just like standing there. He took a couple extra shots. Herb get in there. Just progazics, get in there. And then, yes, I think Perez may see Chesson.

That was wild. Not the most exciting fight, but I think Presley seemed to be in pretty good position at one point and certainly working to do damage, working to improve position. And referee, sorry, guys, we should, let's call this guy. You have his name? Let's call him out fully.

Yeah, of course we have this name. It's the internet. Of course we have this name. Referee, Raul Prata, says, reset. Get out on up. From like top half with like an advancing position, it was a tough one.

When the commentary team is being like, I don't know what he's doing. and they start making fun of him, you know something bad has gone on. Yeah, pretty. So there we go, guys. That was one of the other Nair's night.

Fortunately, again, didn't really, nothing was changed. I think there was a few score cars are a little shaky, but overall, no real robberies, no real fishy finishes,

and we can all be happy for that perfect weigh-ins on Friday, guys, no even near misses. Like, we had a Phil Roe last week. Maybe the UFC's turning a corner jet ahead of one of its more, like, highly anticipated cards,

if only for the main event, UFC 326. Certainly not a deep card. And it's only for the main part. It's certainly not a deep card. Well, Jed, you and I will talk about that more, actually, a little bit. We should say by the end of this weekend, because I'll let people know you're getting more, Jed and AK.

Apparently. Or Jed and AK, you guys. They asked the pre-fight Q&A, and I was like, no, I haven't been asked about it. Jed, do not worry. You will not have to really produce anything. This will not be live. So, guys, we'll get the normal post-fight night podcast. Jed will be my co-host on onto the next one.

So you can hear more of this, more of that. We'll give you our proper match of picks. That's kind of why we haven't been like spitting them out now. Also, there's not like, I don't have them right now. I'm going to say, they're not super obvious. Not a lot of the main part way. I straight up, do not know what I'm doing. Yeah, that's fine.

That's, that's good. That saves the suspense for tomorrow. But Jed, I hope you don't mind. I think I'm going to hop off and do some writing for M-Afighting.com. I understand that. If you want to feel some questions before. Well, congratulations, Jed. Well, done.

Your team today. I will field some questions while you're up, but also, A.K., before you leave. Not only did I go 100% on my team. Oh, boy. Your best friend, the villainist, Mike Heck, oh, and two on his team. Is that right? It is. I was keeping track, but I will.

The Daniel Zohuber pick that I chastised him for when he made it. Oh. So at least I'm right about that, which actually is what Mike said. It was like, look, if he loses, you get to be right about me. I was like, oh, okay. And also he had Brandon Moreno. 25 points for Brandon for being in a main event. He does, but I think Brandon Marino would have been Nassuam-Bayev.

So this is a very tough outcome from Mike Heck. All right. I see a few. I see a few. You got some super chats. You got some super chats. Go ahead. You know, Jed, let me hang around for one.

Why don't you hang around for some super chats? Let's get to him. We'll do some Q&As, aka leave when he needs to. And I'll stay and go for a little bit with you, boys. Because I like to talk with y'all. It's fun. First up from Nick VCC. Zell Huber was, for me, same as Jalen Turner.

I must have missed the fights where the hype came from, and I never got what the hope for them was. The, what was it, Rebovitz? Yeah, he said it's a fun fights. That fight was amazing. You know, you saw that fight and you're like, man, like this kid has got it. He's got that dog in him, Jed. You saw that fight.

That was arguably the best fight of that year. Someone, someone delivers something like that. I think there's a honestly, there's a little bit of a Mason Jones, Mike Davis vibe, right? Remember when that fight happened? We're like, both these guys are going to be like contenders someday. Like, it's incredible. And sometimes it just doesn't work out that way. And Danzel was considerably younger as well.

So, yeah, I remember why there was hype. But that hype made me permanently gone. The hype was that he came into the UFC at like 21, big physical specimen. Looks good getting off the bus. has tools and traits but can't and has at times put it together right like he blew the doors off

Christian Christos which is Jaggos but still like he's he's shown flashes and you know maybe he'll get it together he is still only 26 but I won't be along for the ride

so Jalen Turner I will say had substantially more to get behind. Oh for sure Janet Turner's highlight reel is more substantial Jalen Turner was beating the souls out of dudes and then just sort of collapsed because he definitely was not like all all mentally focused on the game but like Jalen Turner yeah he he deserved to have real hype behind him

dan is el huber we got excited because he's young and big and uh didn't work out there's a question specifically for me i should probably address that before i before i did uh here we go from k0 3 000 a k what is your connection to trinidad and tobago i remember you traveled there a while while back. My father is Trini. Oh, I wish I had some cool Trinney like greeting to make, but I'm so not not in touch enough with the culture. Yeah, obviously, you know, versus beautiful place to travel. I went in my wife and it was wonderful. But we went because we have great friends from there. Shoutouts to my very, very, very good friends. Yes, Johnny and Vishal, who we've hosted here when they've come

to Canada. They've hosted us. We've found there. So much love to you guys. I'm sure they have no interest in sports or MMA. So there's zero chance. How do you have great friends from from Trinidad and Tobago. She knows them from something. I'm married into this beautiful friendship. You married into the friendship. Yeah, yeah, but these guys are great. They're like brothers to me.

I guess I'm like brothers to me. So, yeah, I love the people of Trinidad and Tobago. Beautiful place. Definitely go visit. And yeah, shout out of some of my home boys. I miss you guys. I'll see these guys again soon. But, uh, that's it.

But, yeah, Jed, I will also, I'll miss everyone here. I miss everyone here. I miss everyone here. I miss everyone here, as always. Uh, very lively chat today. So I do think, wow, I'm looking at, I'm looking at our viewership numbers now very solid usually a little bit higher than usual i think because of for for a card like this yes at this time and i feel like armin the card like this yes juice the numbers a little bit so

plus people just like to hang out and chat fights on a saturday night technically a sunday morning and we will do that just just not with you apparently yes you you keep doing your thing armin you keep doing anything all right guys uh you'll hear more from jed and i uh before the end of the week on on to the next one jed enjoy enjoy the stream all right boys i'm taking over i'm the captain now technically I've been the captain the whole time. At Medcan, we know that life's greatest moments are built on a foundation of good health, from the big milestones to the quiet winds.

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Visit Medcan.com slash moments to get started. We'll go for until I feel like stopping. Probably another like 10, 15 or so. Because at some point, I've got to do some post work and then go to bed and wake up. Do on to the next one. For more boy, Spencer. Shout out, Spencer. Howdy, boys, fun night.

Got to give you credit, Jed. You called how good flyway would be a while ago. Rank Lonnie, Van and Tyrone, who has the best UFC career. Yeah. I mean, it wasn't really hard to call. call because there were just a ton of super young dudes who were all hot shit awesome where it was like yeah Josh fans 23 and amazing tatsura tire was 24 and amazing uh I was super high on Lonnie Kavanaugh there are like still other dudes coming up too there's like yeah it's just so this is a

weight class that's probably going to be extremely good in the next three to five years so watch out for it as far as ranking careers I think think the smart money would be to pick Van since he's already like already the champ right and that helps and I do believe he's the youngest of the group so like that's probably the smartest but I think Tyra is going to beat Van I could be wrong like I'm I'm not betting the house on it I'm not climb with that one I've been super high on tattooed Tyra the loss to Brandon Revolve feels like it was a learning a development loss for him. And I think he might put together like a real rain here at Flyweight.

So I'll go, I'll go Tyra Van Lonnie. But there's no wrong way to eat that Reese's voice. Like that's, they are super talented. All three of them. Hopefully we'll get several matchups with all of them, right? Like that's the dream. That's what you want to have happen in situations like this. So thanks, Spencer.

and from Poetition Artem's match and brawl was more fun than UFC It's certainly something that we're going to talk about a lot A lot more than the UFC card I think we will look back on this and be like yeah man That's the night Lonnie Kavanaugh arrived But I all of the things people will be talking about The next couple of days will be Armands Brawl

Or the fight announcements that got announced over the week. That's just sort of the nature of the game. So, yeah. His wrestling match was deeply not fun, though. Like, I covering it, I did not have fun watching that. It was like watching a train wreck. So tough scenes. Does the real Mike say, yo?

Not to my knowledge. He's never, he's never said that. Is Signor Heck in the chat? Why are people saying, Olas, in your heck? Mike's in the house? dope. I don't know where Mike is, but, um, I mean, I do know where Mike is. He's in Arizona. Spencer, I think Tyra beats Van wrestling still pretty unproven. I thought pants would submit him. I do. Um, I do think he's, like I said, I think he's going to, but van has been very scrambling.

And so if he can just keep the feet, he's definitely better on the feet than Tyra. The tire's getting, getting improving there. It's a great matchup, man. Like, I'm really, really looking forward to it. Not the one I expected. I kind of feel like cop maybe got a little bit screwed, but I'm looking forward to it. David Sandine, payment in advance to not do any penis jokes for the next week. Buddy, you're just going to have to lock in and have some fun with that. We won't do it because, I mean, I will.

I'm doing on to the next one next tomorrow morning, so technically this morning. So we will. But then it'll be off until the next Damien Pino's thing. but I told you all coming off contingency series, that dude's just also like he's a table goatea one year later. He has been fighting for like four years. And real raw needs a lot of work with a good camp,

a specimen. Big, big things might be happening for that dude. So stay on, boys. I think he's going to be great. Harmon, yes, we are doing one in the morning. I didn't realize I was doing it. I told on the pre-fight Q&A, I was like, I'm not doing that. No one's asked me.

And then AK asked me like two hours ago. So yeah, I'm doing it. I don't know. I do not know what I'm picking. I got no clue how to do these. I'm not going to read that one. I'm just going to put that up. Can you tell UFC come back to Pennsylvania?

It feels like forever. When was the last time the UFC was in Pennsylvania? We have the technology to look this up. they were in Philadelphia. In 2019, is that really the last time they were in Pennsylvania? Man, that's nuts.

2019 is a long time. RIF's going to Philly next month. I think next month. So you can do that, but yeah, that's a long time. They should go back. They will.

They don't call them site fees anymore. They changed it to something that's surely a consulting company who's like, site fees sounds terrible. So it's like, branding opportunities or something silly. But yeah, you're just going to wait until Philly or somebody pays them a boatload of money to show up.

Because that's how that goes. Oh, yeah, this officially got announced. The rumors have been circulating for a while. It seemed like this was going to happen. We confirmed it, I'm pretty sure, but also the UC announced it. JDM versus protests. When? What event is that happening at, though?

Let me, I think this is happening at the Australia card. Yeah, the U.S.C's return to Perth on May 2nd, which according to, excuse me, according to reports, is going to be local time Australia. So it's going to be like four in the morning for us or something like that, which is good. I think they should do that when they go abroad and we can wake up if we need to. So early prediction for JDM protests, I kind of think I like that. protest in that fight, man. Hard to be confident. Jadium, very good as a striker.

Process just has more tools. Jadium's really about the boxing. And we saw that the leg kicks hurt Jadium pretty severely, very early from Islam. Protis has a lot more tools. I don't think Jadium's going to go to wrestling. Jadiam's still young.

He can still like kind of make these big leaps or his protest is sort of a baked cake. But I'm going to lean, I bet Pradis opens as the betting favor and I'm going to lean him to get the win here. But it's a great fight. I don't think there is any, there's no wrong way to do these matchups. It does make me wonder what's happening to Michael Morales though, because it seems based on Michael Morales is tweeting that he is not getting the next title fight that's not set in stone. Maybe, maybe he does.

It feels like we're heading towards the Imachado Gary versus Isamakachev. And so who does Morales get? Do they try and do Usman versus Morales? I don't know how you sell Usman on that fight because that's a tough fight for him. But I'll be very interested to see where Michael Morales goes because it feels like he's not going to a title fight. And I thought him versus protest would have made sense, but JDM's still in the mix. So yeah. Yeah, Harmon, I think that fight would make sense.

I just did not certain Usman wants to take it. And frankly, I don't blame him. Like, that's a tough. I guess if they tell you, you get to fight for the belt with a win, sure. But yeah. This is it, lazy. Financial incentive package. That's correct.

Because that sounds better than site fees. Got to keep our branding solid. From our boy, Joey. Eileen Press won six in a row, which is insane. In a division that stuck while we're waiting for Amanda and Kayla to play out. Thoughts on Eileen wanting women's flyweight Tracy Cortez. super weird callout and I should be better at this

because this is my job like I work in the space right I very rarely am up to date on like the beefs that are happening between fighters and so I don't know why she wants this

if they like have some genuine issues with each other for one reason or another but looking at the rankings right now Tracy Cortez is not ranked oh no She is ranked number eight at flyweight.

Obviously, Eileen Perez is a ban on weight. So it's a real weird one. But maybe she gets it because I don't know what else they're doing. The UFC is actively not trying to support this weight class. And on the one hand, it's hard to blame them, right? Because, like, that fight wasn't super fun. But like you said, Eileen Perez is on a six-fight winning street. Like, I know we're waiting for Kayla and Amanda.

I don't think a human being alive thinks Eileen Perez is going to of either one of them trouble. But like, at some point, someone has to fight for the belt other than the same three people. And this is how it happens. Fighters put together win streaks and they get there. And you do better by promoting them. And they're bearing them in the undercard. And you're never going to get them any traction in this way.

And that usually seems okay with it. So it is what it is. He did not win. He lost a unanimous decision. that's it she's definitely not exciting man um but she's winning fights and like six six foot win streak is a long win streak uh she let me pull her up i'm gonna pre ought know this because i should actually has she fought jocelyn edwards i can't remember who the hell's fought anybody at this point jocelyn edwards also just want to fight and is on a super huge win streak

uh she has one of her wins is over jocelyn edwards so like i don't know what we do here man um what would make sense is Rocky Pennington, I guess, because, but I, who cares, whatever. They don't care. They're going to bury it in the middle of a prelim on an apex card. I think calling out Pena is a fool's errand. I just don't think Julianne Pena should actually fight Eileen Perez. I don't think she's going to try and fight anyone. I think she's just going to hold on and wait.

And that's okay. like it's real weird it's very very weird with what's going on here and the woman's been a white division I do love whiteboards and we have one up arm and suuque and he needs an anger management coach uh Spencer talked about this a little than pre-fight Q&A um but we didn't do like a reacts to the 327 announcements we sort of planned it but Dana took forever to announce them and so by the time they announced and I thought we were getting more because we just got the 327 announcements. We didn't get 328.

I think the Erie Ulberg fight is quite fun. It's Yeri. I will watch Yeri fight anybody. He is my large adult son. And I think he's probably going to be call this Oldberg, but it's a very competitive fight. It's a great matchup. The real thing to talk about that fight, though,

is not about the fight, but what that fight means because Alex Pereira is vacating his title. But they didn't announce. what's happening next. I thought that we would get both. I thought we'd get Alex's vacating and here's what's happening. And as far as I can tell, this is not based on inside info. This is just looking at the lay of the land.

There are only two options and one option seems much more likely than the other. One option is the UFC has decided to get off a tie horse and they're going to book Alex versus John and they're going to put it at the White House. I think that's what they should do. I think that would feel like a big mega event fight for the White House. I don't think they're going to do that. They seem, the U.S.

just straight up seems not to be interested in the John Jones business anymore. And hard to blame him, but it just feels like, I hope I'm wrong, maybe I will be. It doesn't seem like that. So it seems like what is about to happen is that Alex Pereira is going to move up to heavyweight

and fight zero gone. I'm guessing for the vacant heavyweight title, that they are going to, by hook or by crook, convinced Tom Aspinall to leave that belt behind because they don't want to have Pereira fighting for an interim heavyweight belt when he's going,

when he's attempting to become the first three-weight world champion, having it with an interim belt would feel weird. So they're just going to be like, Tom, you're out indefinitely, we're going to take it from you. And honestly, I even understand that argument. It sounds, it rings hollow because of what they let John do for the last four years, basically. but in the micro sense, in the self-contained sense,

it does make sense your heavyweight champion cannot fight. You take the belt from him. He challenges for it when he comes back. So that's my best guess. And that's probably 328. Maybe it's the White House, but I think it's much more likely that's our 328 main event. But they are holding to announce that for now

because I think they're still trying to dot some T's and cross some eyes for the White House and if some last minute White House plans fall through, then they're going to want to be able to pivot however they need to. Let's get a few more in here. Since Moreno seems on the back half his career, who do you think is the best chance to replace him as the next face of Mexico for the UFC? That's a really good question, dude. That's a really good question.

In a bit of a transition period, right? Like, it was Moreno and Alexa Grasso, and they both appear to be in a sort of a very similar spot, right? And I mean, God love all the fighters. David Martinez, he's not going to carry Mexico on his shoulders. So I don't know. I honestly don't know who's like the next standard bearer. But they just have enough talent that maybe they don't need a guy to carry it on his shoulders. They can perhaps survive just with volume for now. Because like the issue with Canada, when Canada lost GSP, they're also like just weren't that many Canadian fighters still aren't. You know, so they've been looking for Mike Malat to be the guy to lift it up.

If you just had like a lot more Canadian fighters, maybe that could carry it. Mexico does have like just more dudes. So, but I don't know who's going to be like the next person that can do it. You know, maybe it is Santiago Luna, right? Like 21 years old kid looked like a million dollars. super good pedigree. He'll need some time to get there, but great prospect,

so maybe it's somebody like him. If you look at the whiteboard, AZ, it does seem that he is not great at regulating his emotions. Arman Surukin could do better than he does. Yeah, I mean, that's just sort of always been his style. He is a little wonky. And he kind of makes it work.

But yeah, like once your athleticism starts to drop off a little bit, sort of technical oddities become bigger problems, especially against a technician like Lonnie Kavanaugh. He took advantage of it a lot. So, yeah, I mean, Moreno having a wonky style, wonky styles don't tend to age that well, right?

Like, very few, like the point about fundamentals is they work and that they are the bedrock for a long-term career. Bernie Mrendo's had a very long career, but he is a little bit eccentric in how he fights. and that can be a style that is tricky. Yeah, shout out to the Twitch, yeah,

year isn't 55 years old. Yeah, you just doesn't fight. Just doesn't fight, man. It'd be dope if he would fight Diego Lopez. That fight seems to make sense.

But yeah. Oh, that's a good point. Like, maybe it's wrong. They're trying to position Rolla Roses Jr. as the face of Mexican M.A.

Maybe it'll work. I don't know. We'll see. Oh. What I, would I rather be a defense attorney for John, Connor, or Armin? I would not be a defense attorney for Connor McGregor, and you can just go read, and that's why I wouldn't.

I also would not choose to represent John. Armin has thus far not done anything that I would be like, I don't want to defend you. And also, Armin is extremely wealthy. so I mean I know Connor is richer than all of them but I wouldn't choose to defend Connor I wouldn't have any issues defending Armand he could do a lot better than me as an attorney but um like yeah you know

he's he's wrong it's not right to hit people don't hit people you learn that in kindergarten he obviously didn't don't hit people it's bad but you know that's substantially better than some of the other things that other people have been accused of in the sport Um, let's get a couple more and then we'll scratch out of here. I mean, I don't know that he seems like a great guy, but, um, John and Connor are, I mean, the foremost like MMA, maybe not the foremost because his sport produced a lot of really terrible people, people much worse than anything Connor or John has been accused of frankly. but yeah, it's, you know, part of the reason I firmly believe that everybody deserves a defense attorney, but I'm not going to be the defense attorney for people that I wouldn't agree with things.

Lazy. Best pizza topping is pet baroni. I mean, the classic is the best, but my hot take is all pizza is good pizza. So you can put basically anything on a pizza, and I don't think it's going to be bad. Spencer Ruehmer is very very easy to meet David Martin who has a better career between Dave Martinez and Kevin Vigalos

is Vigios he's awesome and I like David Martinez I had they were on the same contender series season I had Dave Martinez ranked very highly coming off that season as sort of as a four star functional prospect I had Kevin Vezos is a five star the only concern

with Valleos is his size he just might not be a true featherweight, but he is all gas, no brakes. And I do think we saw today some of the problems and the problems that I saw on David Martinez. He's not a huge finisher. I think he's destined to be like a perennial top 10 guy, like a Dan Ege, really tough out.

We'll give anybody a good scrap. We'll beat a lot of dudes. Probably doesn't have enough offense to sort of be like a true title challenger. Um, but like a guy that everyone's gonna know like, that's a hell of a fighter. Max Job can pineapple on pizza is totally fine. I think it's actually quite good. It's not like what I won every time, but it's totally fine. Uh, all right.

We're going to end on this one because it feels appropriate to no, not not the pizza talk. Sorry. Stop it. Um, why to keep not getting the one I want, which is this one. Johnson knocked him out cold, but I'm, pretty sure Kavanaugh would beat him in a rematch. I would pick Lonnie Kavanaugh to win a rematch with Charles Johnson. I would have picked it out before this because he was winning that fight and he had a

moment, right? And that is full credit to Charles Johnson. If somebody is going to slip up and you can take advantage of it, that's credit to you. And that's what happened. But I watched that fight very clearly Lonnie Kavanaugh is winning and he had a lapse. And laps has happened. And maybe if they fought again, it would be the exact. same outcome. Maybe Charles Johnson just would take advantage. But I think on the balance,

if they fought 10 times, Lonnie wins more of them. But that's why, like, that's genuinely why I love this sport, because the margins are so small. Because, you know, if this was in the NBA and baseball, you know, a little bit less in some, the variance is removed a lot because you have a seven game series, you know, that can, okay, probably the best guy is going to win the overall series. You know, in something like football, it's one game, anything can happen. And that's the same for fights. Like, you know, we see all the time that guys who win the first fight don't win a trilogy,

anything can happen. And every fight is meaningful because of that. Some are more meaningful than others, but that is one of the big appeals to this sport for me as a is that you can have a guy like Charles Johnson who, you know, he's just never going to fight for a belt. But it's a very good fighter and he can beat a dude who may end up, you know,

becoming champion one day. And it's not a fluke. It's just if you roll the dice 10 times, not every one of them is going to come up your way. So I do think he'd win a rematch, but maybe we'll see it. Maybe at some point they will just run it back because what else they got?

So, Um, all right, boys, we are going to get out of here as soon as I figure out to do media to get out of here. Tomorrow morning, me and AK doing on to the next one. Uh, that'll be on the pod network now on the YouTube, obviously, or the Twitch, shout up Twitchers, uh, onto the next one. I personally will be on morning combat with Luke Thomas, uh, and Chuck Mendenhall on Monday. So check that out as we preview UFC 326.

326 is the number for Max Oliver Charlesville there and of course we will have full coverage in a main fighting all week for UFC 326 the great Jose Youngs will as always be on event location we'll have a between the links next week we will have a preview show pre-fight Q&A that should be Mike shouldn't be me me and Mike will have a watch party again

so make sure you come and join us for that and broadly just hang around also by next week I hope to have some of the emotes up and loaded for the members, channel members, as I'm trying to build that out. Nobody told me I could. I just decided I was going to. And so look out for that. Thank you all for tuning in. I mean, it's two in the morning here on the East Coast and you're hanging out with me.

And I will never take that for granted. So see you all very soon. I'm going to queue up. What exit music do we want to get out to? Oh, I got it. Perfect, going to queue up it out, and I'm out of here. Love y'all. Love y'all.

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