MMA Fighting - UFC Paris Post-Fight Show: Reaction to Renato Moicano’s Brutal Beatdown of Benoit Saint Denis

Episode Date: September 29, 2024

Renato Moicano was “Money” after all. On Saturday at Accor arena, Moicano delivered a brutal beatdown to Benoit Saint Denis in the main event of UFC Paris, scoring a second-round doctor stoppage a...fter Saint Denis was rendered unable to see in one eye. Following Saturday’s event from the French capitol, MMA Fighting’s Jed Meshew and José Youngs react to Moicano’s big win and where Saint Denis goes from here. Additionally, the MMA Fighting team reacts to Nassourdine Imavov’s big win over Brendan Allen in the co-main event, and what that means for both men’s title aspirations, as well as highlight reel performances from Bryan Battle, Morgan Charriere, Fares Ziam, and Chris Duncan. Follow Jed Meshew: @JedKMeshew Follow Jose Youngs: @JoseYoungs Subscribe to MMA Fighting Check out our full video catalog Like MMA Fighting on Facebook Follow on Twitter Read More: http://www.mmafighting.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:21 just beats the tar out of Binwa Sondini for a second round TKO stoppage. Izzy, can you hear my audio place? I can hear my audio. I can hear your audio. Oh, no, I had the YouTube pulled up because I was making a tweet. That makes sense.
Starting point is 00:01:42 Hey guys, I'm Jedmishu in Mayfighton.com. It's great to have you. We love you being here. And let's talk about UFC Paris because 14 fights happened. Eh, we didn't get into how the card kind of felt overall, but that main event was something special. And here to talk about it with me, the same man who was here to preview things with me,
Starting point is 00:02:01 the wonderful, the inimitable, Jose Young's. That's up dog. That's all I got. That's all you got. Nice rainy day in New York. Is it still raining up there for you? Oh, well, it does look,
Starting point is 00:02:20 it does look very dark where you are, but also joining us on the ones and twos. E. Casey Lydden. Oh, the sleeves have come off. It must have warmed up in Southern California at this point. Perhaps it warmed up, Casey, because of the absolute shit kicking that was delivered by Anato Moikano
Starting point is 00:02:41 to Ben Mwasaandini in the main event. And we're going to jump right into it. If you guys don't know, this is how we do things. We're going to break down this card, talk about our feelings. And at the end, we'll do a little, you know, Q&A about it. We won't go that long today because we got other things to do. And that's just the name of the game. But we have to spend at least the first little bit talking about that performance.
Starting point is 00:03:02 Because, Jose, let's start here. Second round TKO, a doctor stoppage. Binwasandini's right eye is completely closed. He could not answer the questions when the, the doc was asking him how many fingers. Left eye wasn't much better, frankly, and left with no choice but to end it. Did you, we talked about this fight a lot in the preview.
Starting point is 00:03:24 Did you think this kind of performance out of Moycano was possible? Because I sure as hell didn't. I mean, it was definitely possible just based off what we saw against Jalen Turner because like the last time, the last Moikano win, because like we were talking about, you incorrectly thought that Moikano had a lot more knockouts than he did. And then it was, you know, we learned that Moikano had one knockout win in his entire career.
Starting point is 00:03:48 And that was the Jailentura fight in his last fight. Now he has two because like we talked about, and not to Moikano is a guy that has always had very good ground impound. I had very good boxing. But normally when he hurts you, he snatches up a neck. He snatches up an arm. Like he goes through the kill. He doesn't try to, you know, power through you. He'll choke you out or snap a limb.
Starting point is 00:04:10 But Benoit and Benoit Santini, I feel. like if the referee had let him fight or the doctor had determined he could fight, I have a feeling that that's probably how the fight would have played out. I think Benoit probably would have gotten taken down again just because he couldn't see out of his eye and O'Conno probably would have snatched up a neck or something just because, you know, when you can't, it's one thing to have a guy trying to punch you and you can't see, but at least you have space to see, you could kind of move, like, kind of see out of your other eye. If a guy is on top of you and blood is pouring into your eye,
Starting point is 00:04:42 that's a whole other ball game because you're basically trying to swim blind down there and then that's how you get choked out. So if he had gotten out, I have a feeling Moikano probably would have gotten the submission win. I don't think it would have been a TKO win because he would have gone for some sort of choke. But goddamn, Moikano. And like, if you go back and watch the fight, Moichano got that takedown right out of the game. Beautiful entry, took him down and just started raining down elbows. So I'm pretty confident when I say if these two guys fought 10 times, I think it's pretty,
Starting point is 00:05:12 I think it's still pretty 50-50. I just think Moikano had that. It's similar to when Max fought Justin Gachie. Max Holloway broke Justin Gage's nose so early into the fight that it absolutely played a factor. Now, I'm not saying Justin Gachi would have won that fight at USC 300 if he didn't break his nose, but it absolutely played a factor. And if you get your face gashed open and your eye closed within like 90 seconds into the fight, it's only going to get worse as the fight plays out.
Starting point is 00:05:41 So if that was the game plan by Moe Conno, take him down and just kind of wreck his face a bunch, then picture perfect game plan because Benoit was trying to fight. God bless that man. That man is tough as nails. He was trying to fight with one eye. And when they did the close up, whereas I was closed and he had two different lacerations going like across his eyelid. And they were both about two, three inches. I was like, God damn, that looks absolutely heinous.
Starting point is 00:06:07 And Benoit kept trying to fight. God bless him. But I think it was, I think we all agree. that was the right call. He could not even. The doctor was asking how many fingers he was holding up and he's like, I can't see it. I was like, well, that's the fight.
Starting point is 00:06:18 Just stop it right there. Mark Goddard don't need to talk to the doctor. Just wave it off right there. I respected him trying to guess. Just try and spike it too. I don't know. No. I can't see.
Starting point is 00:06:30 Sorry. Yeah, never has there been a more obvious the fight should be stopped than that one. Somebody on Twitter, I have no idea who it was, but in the aftermath, It looked like he had three eye holes in one eyelid. It was absolutely gnarly.
Starting point is 00:06:48 And yeah, I mean, you nailed it. Moikano kind of catches slash Perry is a kick from BSD, gets that first entry and just is immediately beating the tar out of him. And a way that I, you know, I just didn't think could happen in such dominant performance. And then after that, you know, he take BSD credit to him because, certainly want to give that man a shout out for fighting through that halacious beating and then winning the second round on all the judge's scorecards justifiably like moikano basically took it off and as i was doing the live blog hose i was like i kind of think
Starting point is 00:07:25 he might be taking this off because he is correctly assessed that this fight can't he can't lose it now unless he gets hit like that was a 10-7 on our official scorecards because i was doing live blog. And more to the point, like, if you just, as I was watching that second round unfold, it was like, he can't, there's no way he can see in there. Like, Moikano doesn't have to time will end this fight because at some point the doctor will have to be like, this is ridiculous. It was a really impressive one round thrashing that then took an additional five minutes to get to the end of it. And afterwards, Moikano has become very popular in part because of his post-fighting. He is a very lively man.
Starting point is 00:08:09 He gave BST a lot of credit. He said a bunch of other stuff that we're not going to dive into because, you know, we don't have to. We don't need to. But the stuff that we should dive into and that's kind of relevant to our discourse here is he called for easy fights, you know, part of the money persona. I want easy fights.
Starting point is 00:08:26 Patty Pimbled's an easy fight. Dan Harker's an easy fight. Don't come at me with BS fights. Don't come at me with hard fights with some difficult guy. I just fought an athlete that everybody is really supportive of right now. And so give me the easy money fights. He is calling for, you know, Patty Pimbley's calling for Dan Hooker. Do you think that he's going to get either one of those?
Starting point is 00:08:50 Like, where, after a performance like this, where, where's Moikano going? I think the patty fight would make sense. It's an easy fight. It's a sellable fight. Both guys are coming off stoppage wins. Let's not forget, Patty Pimlet obviously submitted King Green. So I think it would make sense meritocracy-wise. I think it would make sense because both guys want it.
Starting point is 00:09:08 It would most certainly sell. Both of these guys are very popular on the mic and in the Octagon. And I think more importantly, like, Patty's a guy that a lot of people call him out, and he doesn't call a lot of people out, but he's been pretty vocal saying he wants to fight Moichano, he even offered to do a season of the ultimate fighter. That would be very strange, and I cannot even imagine when Hanata Moikano would use his mic time on.
Starting point is 00:09:34 a nationally syndicated program for us. But, I mean, I'm about it. I like that fight. I think the Dan Hooker fight would be a more fun fight. It would most certainly be more violent. But I think Dan Hooker's looking more up because, like, we talked about, what he talked about at Media Day is, you know, Mattaj Gamrod, in hindsight, that was an awesome scrap against Dan Hooker.
Starting point is 00:09:55 But in hindsight, people were like, why is Dan Hooker taking this fight? He should be looking for these, like, really entertaining high-level fights. not a guy that's a high, heavy wrestler and good grappling. And we'll try to take him down and remove him from the stuff that makes him exciting. Den Hooker said, well, you know what I want? I want that big old number next to him because if I win, then all these guys in the top five will have to fight me because I'll be on a three, four-fight win streak. So I don't think Den Hooker will even entertain the Moikano fight.
Starting point is 00:10:25 So I guess it's Patty because, or I mean, Benile's out there floating around. I know Viziv has called. them out. Who else is there? Fizzis there. Benil's there. I don't think King Green should be fighting anytime soon. Pretty much it for him.
Starting point is 00:10:44 Yeah. So I mean the patty, just do the paddy fight. Both guys want it. I don't think there's any bad blood, but I think it's one of those fights that will sell. Fight definitely would sell. I mean, they don't really do this anymore. You could very easily main event an English pay-per-view with that. They won't because it's not how they do business, but I think you could for sure do that.
Starting point is 00:11:06 If everything we think is going to happen happens at MSG and John and Stipey retire, and then they have to do this London pay-per-view next year with Tom Aspinall in the main event. And Otto Myconno, Patty Pimlet sounds like a banger. Trigger Co-Man. Terrific Co-Mane. The one small problem, I see what that is. If I am anywhere remotely near Patty Pimble, I'd be like, don't fight that dude. Who not fight that dude after that?
Starting point is 00:11:33 Holy, I mean, that is, in like a perfect world, it wouldn't be bad. I do think Patty's going to end up being next. But I actually love that he also called out Dan Hooker to give himself options. Dan Hooker certainly wouldn't want that fight based on the things he has said. But Dan Hooker's not going to get the fight he wants at this point, it seems unlikely. I mean, Islam is functionally set to defend against Armand. Charles is now fighting Michael Chandler. I guess maybe Hooker could get a fight with either one of those dudes after that.
Starting point is 00:12:04 But if Michael Chandler wins, Michael Chandler can rematch him. And if Charles wins, Charles probably is not. Maybe you would have to. And then, you know, certainly early stages. But there's a bit of smoke. We talked about the potential of a Porre Geichy 3. So the guys above him in the UFC rankings, he still may have to fight back. And if the option is fighting back against Binele-Derry,
Starting point is 00:12:30 Ush or Money Moikano. I think he should want the Money Moikano fight, but we'll see how it all plays out. I'm honestly, I'm very interested because Lightweight is always sick. Let's go to the other side of the table here, though, Jose, because Benoit Sandini, this was a guy who a year ago, this guy was the limit. We were extremely pumped about his prospects as an incredible action fighter. He's getting this big opportunity against Dustin Poirier, and if he can convert, then he's a bona fide star going to be fighting for a title very, very soon.
Starting point is 00:13:01 Now he's lost two in a row. Two bad ones. I mean, the Poirier knockout was very tough, and this was brutal in a whole different kind of a way. Where does he go from here? What does the future look like for BSD? What would you like the future to look like for him? I want to see the Fizzee fight.
Starting point is 00:13:18 I think that fight would make a lot of sense. Fizzi is coming off back-to-back losses. He got injured. Benoit Santinis coming off back-to-back losses. You know, he just got his face gashed open. and Fiziv lost to he's lost to Gamra and he's lost to Gaiti. Ben-Wa-Santhini has lost to Pori and now he's lost to Moikano, two guys that are kind of always preannily in the top 10, top five.
Starting point is 00:13:39 And I think they just, both guys need a reset, but I don't think either guy wants to fight out of the rankings. And I think it's a good test for both fighters. Also, who's going to say no? Even if he was coming, even if he won, who's going to say no to Fiziv versus Benoit Santany? Because what was not mentioned, And we have not mentioned his Benoit, yeah, he lost by Dr. Stubbs because his eye decided to quit on him and he had a bunch of lacerations on his face.
Starting point is 00:14:04 He won the second round. Like his eye was closing shut and he still won the second round. And Fizib had his eye closed against Justin Gaitjean. He's still fighting back harder than ever. So I think that fight rules. I think that would be a really fun main event for a fight night down the road or if either guy wants a five-round fight, they want a three-round fight. He's back into competition. Then I'm all for it.
Starting point is 00:14:23 But again, I think Benoit and Fizier would be a. bang our own fight. I mean, who, like you said, who would not watch that fight? No wrong way to eat the races when it comes to BSD. I would like to see him take some time. Just see had a rough, a rough 2024, so maybe just recalibrate,
Starting point is 00:14:40 come back, you know, next summer after you've had a little bit of time off. But, I mean, I think that's enough on the main event. We knew coming in that the stakes here were relatively low, just because you're not, neither guy winning is really close to a title fight. still an incredible performance very very fun fight but the stakes were certainly higher in the comane nassarine emelov is a unanimous decision win over brendan allen this was a top 10
Starting point is 00:15:08 middleweight matchup i think imov is even number five in the ufc middleweight rankings i'm not looking at them right now and he gets a you know professional middleweighty win afterwards calls for you know his shot at the title he's on a serious unbeaten streak and has now got wins over Brendan Allen and Jared Canaan who were top 10 guys in the last one out. So let's start there. Let's start with Imovob's wishes. Great Imov's performance.
Starting point is 00:15:36 How do you think he looked in there? And what are the chances he gets what he wants out of this? I think he looked good in the sense that Brennan clearly came out there with the game plan in the first round and was implementing it very well. And then Nasda DiMovov went back to his corner, listened to his coaches, and then just like, you know, readjusted the game plan.
Starting point is 00:15:54 and went out there and dictated the fight. It was not by any means the most exciting fight. It was, as you said, a very middleweighty three-round fight. Brennan's been fighting inside a tiny octagon for a long time. This is a big octagon in Paris. Nasredin Imov has been fighting a big octagon served it because of these main event fights he's had. Now I'm not saying that played the biggest factor. But I think it was very clearly two, three him.
Starting point is 00:16:19 Brennan Allen looks really good in the first round because he had his game plan. but once the game plan went out the window and he can no longer control the fight with his jiu-jitsu or hunt for those submissions, like just thinking of was just a step ahead of him. Now, is Brendan Allen the top 10 middleweight very clearly? I just don't think he got, I just, if someone takes away his best stuff, I don't know if he has an avenue to go out there and just knock fools out anymore because like Chris, he beat Chris Curtis in very recently, but Chris Curtis took that fight on like a week's notice and tore his handstring and, you know, there's some people out there that thought Chris Curtis
Starting point is 00:16:52 was about to win before he got hurt. So Brent Allen is very good. I don't know where he goes. Actually, I do know where he goes. He has to fight Mara Vittorian next. That's a no-brainer. Like we said, they got in a fist fight on a casino floor. Might as well run it back inside of the USC Octagon.
Starting point is 00:17:08 In terms of Nasardine, he's certainly not going to leapfrog anyone in the middleweight division because I just looked at the rankings. He was four. The people above him are Whitaker, Izzy, and Strickland. I don't think he's leapfrogging any of those people, so he's probably just going to stay at four. Calaburhalio is five. So I think his options are either Calbuhalio, the loser of
Starting point is 00:17:29 Whitaker and Hamzot, or if there's a world that Izzy comes back and takes a fight against Nasradi and Imovat, which I don't think is going to happen. That would also make sense, meritocracy-wise. But, I mean, four or five, Calaburio and Naser de Imavon makes sense like that. But if he wants a title shot,
Starting point is 00:17:46 I think the loser of Hamzaa and Whitaker would most certainly do him more favors in terms of the eyes of the public, because Gabbollah looked really good against Canaanere, but Whitaker and Hamzaa kind of transcends that. Like, they're good and they're popular, and they're scary, and they have a name.
Starting point is 00:18:03 And you can headline stuff with them. So any of those guys. But I personally would like to invite the loser of Hamzat and Whitaker. Yeah, you make a really good point about, frankly, the loser of that fight, just being a more popular fighter than Kyle Barado. You know, middleweight's real weird. We were talking about in the preview show.
Starting point is 00:18:24 There was no world in which a win would get him a title shot. And I think everyone acknowledges that, except for perhaps himself. And even he, if he's being honest, you're probably like, yeah, I know I'm not, I'm not in line because of the sort of backlog of contenders here. And the truth is, I don't know, this was not, this was a perfectly fine performance from him in my eyes. I was really impressed by Brendan Allen's first round. And to your point, you just kind of ran out of ideas in there. When Wemov made an adjustment, Allen did not have a plan B that was even remotely.
Starting point is 00:18:55 And he just kept going to increasingly worse plan A because he was getting more tired. This is certainly going to have to go back and do something. And I frankly don't, you kind of mix it up in whichever one you get. But at this point, I'm not even sure he gets it. Kyle Boralio, given his recent performance and kind of the energy, maybe he's the one who gets the loser of the Hamzat-Wittaker, fight and so i don't know it will be fascinating to see how even of of kind of where his future
Starting point is 00:19:25 goes because he's had a i just had a really good start like run in his career right now he's still young man still getting better um very popular in france would be fascinated to see that similarly what is happening to brendan allen now because this is a guy who this think he was in a seven fight on win streak heading into this talking all sorts of greasiness to steal your phrase about deserving to be the main event and that this is nonsense. And then there was some controversy about the French commission is corrupt. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:59 And that's true. That's crazy. And then he had gas for about six minutes and then just kind of feebly lost this fight down the stretch. What do you make of Allen's performance? You know, if you have anything to add to what we've already said mostly what are we doing with him now? because this was a very, very weird performance from him in my eyes. Well, like I said, I think he has to fight Marvin. I think he should absolutely fight Marvin Tori next.
Starting point is 00:20:25 Like, they hate each other. They fought outside an octagon and might as well fight inside an octagon. In terms of, like, Brennan Allen is very, very good at one thing. And I will say this about Brennan Allen, because I don't want him to think that I'm just like shitting all over. every time I see him fight, he looks slightly better and better on the feet every time he goes out there. Like, before I, like, seven, eight fights ago, I think he was an incredibly high-level jiu-jitsu guy, who if the fights sat on the feet, he would kind of be a fish out of water.
Starting point is 00:20:54 But every time this, every time, every fight, he looks slightly better and slightly better and slightly better. Now, I'm not saying he's like this big, fantastic glory kickboxing that's going to go win these kickboxing moitai titles by any means. but he's getting better as an MMA striker. You know, he's training down there and kill Cliff, obviously. If you got Henry Hoof holding pads through, you're going to get good at kicking and punching. And even Imov said, you know, he got hit with one kick, and he's like, God damn. Like, I didn't expect him to be like that heavy of a kicker. So Brennan, I don't know if he'll ever fight for the title, but I think he has the ability
Starting point is 00:21:32 is to crack into the top five, top four because he's so good at one very specific thing. and he's getting better at kind of the rest of the MMA part. And I think if he took the approach that like, you know, decade, like a decade ago, Damien Maia was very good at Jiu-Jitsu. But if you couldn't, if he couldn't get it to the ground, it's kind of a fish out of water. I know he went through that phase where he started to box a bunch,
Starting point is 00:21:55 and then who was it, Paul Tiago, like, knocked him out, knocked him dead at one point, I think. But then he went and trained with a bunch of D-1 wrestlers and just learned how to wrestle, offensively wrestle and take the fight down and use specific transitions that could get him into a better position. If Brent Allen kind of just puts his nose down
Starting point is 00:22:15 and just learns how to do a double-leg, like a blast double-leg take-down or a single-leg and just get into this wrestling mindset, the jih Tjitsu is already there. You add some wrestling there, Brett Allen's going to be a problem, for sure. You know what's better than the one big thing? Two big things.
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Starting point is 00:22:49 slash iPhone 17 Pro on select plans. Conditions and exclusions apply. Yeah, and he's still young. He's still 28. He's a kid, too. Like, his interviews are always like, he needs like, he's one of those guys that has no filter, like, for better or worse, but like, his interviews are entertaining.
Starting point is 00:23:11 And, like, he got, he has guys that have his, like, anytime you're, like, Robbie Lawler went to Paris to watch that fight. Like, doesn't poor he's always gone in his fights. Like, these are big names that I will vouch for Brennan Allen. Brent Allen is still an incredibly high level fighter. He's going to be around for a bit. That was one of the things I liked about this fight. These are two guys who are below 30. So, like, you know, there's a whole new crop of middleweight's coming in, but they're still, they've still got. four or five years right in the thick of things so and i want to add i think if if say hamzot loses to whittaker or even if even if wittaker loses i think imov versus the loser of that and the main event of that of a next fight night in saudi or abdabi makes a lot of sense especially if it's
Starting point is 00:23:55 hamzaa because he's not fighting in america anytime soon imov is from dougastan too like yes he's he lives in france and he speaks french but he is dougastani um i think that would make lot of sense to for that i think imbao versus one of those two in either saudi or abodabi great man i think that honestly makes a ton of sense mike hacker hope you're listening uh for a note tomorrow let's uh pop through the rest of these results i'm waiting for bonuses i think we could probably take a guess where they're going to be but uh pop through the rest of the results and then while after i run these down i'm going to ask you i'm going to steal mike heck's bit of give me three other stars on the evening.
Starting point is 00:24:35 So in the feature fight, William Gowmi takes a split decision, a touch of controversy, but I would say not a robbery. Roger Anderson, Brito. Brian Battle looked very, very good in an absolute rock fight with Kevin Juset.
Starting point is 00:24:48 I suspect you'll be awarding that fight some honors soon. Morgan Shariye knocks out Gabriel Miranda, a vicious left hook, I think it was, off a spinning back fist from Miranda. For SZM, knocks out Nafra in
Starting point is 00:25:03 a legitimate knockout of the year contender might make some lists very very uh just gnarly knee and then your prelims ion kutalaba beats even urslin and that had a bit of fun as uh bruce buffer's pronunciation of i won got ivan urslin to believe he had won the fight but uh the split decision for kutalaba shouldn't have been a splity omar c beats uh daum jung just unanimous decision Ludovic Klein takes a UD over Roosevelt Roberts. Taylor Lappalus takes the UD over Vince Morales. Eileen Perez gets an arm triangle choke in the first round against Darius Lesnikova and then twerks in her submitted face.
Starting point is 00:25:45 Daniel Bareth defeats Victor Altamarano unanimous decision. Jacqueline Cavalcanti beats up Noroconoly gets a split decision that, again, probably shouldn't have been a splitty. And Chris Duncan gets a technical guillotine submission over Balagiochi in a very weird fight to start the main card or just a weird finish, not a weird fight, a very unique situation there. But, Jose, back to you.
Starting point is 00:26:10 Who are your three non-markey stars of the evening? Fraziom for sure. Because that was... We see a lot of knee, like knockouts by a knee, not as many as we used to. But they're usually flying these or people going in for takedowns or up against the fence like that.
Starting point is 00:26:30 very rarely are you kind of in that 50-50 position against the fence where both of you are shoulder your shoulders are touching and very rarely is a fighter standing straight up Matt Fervola was not bending over he was not being forced down he was straight up and just framed his ass up and threw that knee baby and basically lifted his knee six feet in the air and put it on Matt Vervola's temple and turned him off off like off. I don't think Matt Favola, and I love Matt Favola.
Starting point is 00:27:03 He's a very nice man, very well done tattoos, because people ask me that. But he was out, and I don't think he knew where he was when he woke up. So no-brainer, no-brainer. Like, give that man $100,000,
Starting point is 00:27:16 because that's one in the month. He's a thousand percent getting a month. He will probably be in the top five for knockouts of the year at the end of the year. I think Max just kind of locked that up right out of the gate. There's not a world in which Max Holloway doesn't walk away with that.
Starting point is 00:27:30 award. Yes. I mean, I mean, Eddie Hall was doing, knocked out two people in one fight. Look, I will have Eddie Hall in my top five,
Starting point is 00:27:40 100%. He power bombed and then killed a man. It was awesome. But like, you see, because you know, you're in the industry. People just get caught in the moment.
Starting point is 00:27:48 And there was a lot of, oh my God, is that the knockout of the year? And then a lot of people have been like, guys, you see 300 happen this year. Yeah. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:55 Like a week before that too. So. That's it. But I, all right. We're good. Farazian will undoubtedly get votes. Where he'll end up on that is to be determined.
Starting point is 00:28:06 Brian Battle versus Kevin. I always said Juset, but people kept saying Kevin Jusay. I don't know how to pronounce it. Apologize if I've been pronouncing it wrong. But Kevin Juset, I'll just stick with it until someone confirms I have been pronouncing it wrong. I marked that fight when we did BTL, and I marked that fight on the preview show. That was a fight I was very much looking forward to. and that delivered up until it didn't happen because Kevin Ducet is a very high-level martial artist
Starting point is 00:28:34 and Brian Battles a very high-level martial artist on the up and up with their career. But like halfway through the first round, I put it out there, I'm like, this is not a martial arts contest anymore. They're just getting in a fist fight. Like there's no technique. Like there's every MMA fight in the UFC. There is technique. They're looking for openings.
Starting point is 00:28:53 But this is just, we're just going to punch each other until someone either turns off or the referee stops this. And that's exactly what happened. Brian Battle has looked better and better every time he goes out there. He is a massive welterweight. Both of these cats are big old welterweight. So I'm curious if they can keep up the activity because it seems like rough cut for Brian Battle just optically. He's never told me that. He's never said that. He's never made a known. He looks miserable on the scale. It doesn't look fun. Now weight cutting is not fun inherently. If anyone says it is, they're very clearly lying. Brian Battle optically looks miserable,
Starting point is 00:29:28 whatever he weighs in. But he looked awesome. I thought this was an awesome fight. That this could have, this could win. Do you think this is fight of the night? I think it probably is fight of the night. That was a doubt.
Starting point is 00:29:41 If they do a fight of the night, I think Brian Battle could go home with two. I think he could go. That's exactly right. If they do the four bonus thing, if not, I think this is fight of the night because it was really hammering tall. there were some other good things happening as well you know like shari and miranda was pretty
Starting point is 00:29:58 decent at in spots true true um marion shari morgan shari obviously looks awesome turned off gable and miranda with a punch bound i just think brian battles and t ko and for and zyams kha was very clearly optically cooler iileen can't get a bonus right because she missed weight so but i mean anytime you choke a human being unconscious like chris duncan dude. I think you should be on the short list. I think the only thing going against him is he was the first fight of the entire night. And normally they prioritize main card fights for bonuses. But I think he deserves one because he choked a human being unconscious with his arms. Super unconscious. I think you're right. I think we won't get a fight of the night. I think it will be four performances. And, you know, be one of those where like, I think Canato McConnell absolutely deserves one. But that's not usually how they reward.
Starting point is 00:30:53 performance despite it was the best performance on the whole damn card it's usually a highlight finish or whatever but i think there's that and the chris duncan one that was the very first five of the evening if you haven't watched it we've got the clip up it in we find dot com go check it out it's really weird because kate were actually live on air when it happened i got i think i got the bonuses oh do you oh okay i believe so but i'm trying like if these are i don't know if someone's just putting these out I was like, these guys should get the bonus, or they are. But apparently we have four performance bonuses. And it's Chris Duncan, Frazier, Brian Bauer, so pretty much what we said.
Starting point is 00:31:33 Exactly what we were saying, because I'm fully on board with you. The Chris Dungan thing, Casey and I were watching it live. We were doing the people's pre-fight Q&A. And the fight just happened so quickly because they had 14 had to get to him. I'm just like, oh, he's under the chin, but he seems like he's fighting it off. And, oh, it can't be. Chris Duncan has given up on the choke. It's fine.
Starting point is 00:31:52 And then moments later, the fight is over because apparently Balagiochi actually was just passed out for a while. And then Chris Duncan had to alert the referee after he was punching. He was like, I'm punching an unconscious man. Hey, this guy's asleep. It was very weird finish. And I'm fully supportive of that getting a bonus. So those are your performance of the evening. Anything else that jumps out of you that we haven't touched on that you feel gives a shout before we throw it to the peeps?
Starting point is 00:32:21 I mean, the main card was leagues better than the prelim card. I know he talked about like, oh, this is a pretty good prelim card. Didn't really, outside of Chris Duncan, Eileen Perez, it was not a whole lot to write home about like, you know, everyone, like the, the commentary kept saying Ewan Kuchalaba looked better than ever. I'm like, hmm, it's just not true. That was a, he looked, he won. I mean, Eileen Perez beat a woman that in a way she should have. if Eileen Perez just needs to get her weight cutting down and maybe it's because it was a long trip
Starting point is 00:32:54 and you know anytime you travel that far to to weigh in it's always going to be rough. But Eileen Perez is her first UFC stoppage. It was an impressive stoppage. And then she's wearing a chain that says goat on it. And she's basically doing a halo celebration over her opponent. I mean, if you could get it literally in her, literally in her face. He rolls up and sits up and is getting twerked this close to the face.
Starting point is 00:33:25 Literally. It was very disrespectful. So disrespectful. And, I mean, she called out Kayla Harrison after her lassoid. So, like, who does that? It's like when Jack Dela Malle is like, I want to fight Shafton. I'm like, you're just wired differently, I guess, because who wants to sign up for that? So if she gets her weight cutting down, I don't think she's ever had problems in the UFC
Starting point is 00:33:47 or even pre-UFC ever before. So I'm going to chalk this up to as like a momentary lapse in judgment or whatever it was. But like, hey, Aileen Perez is people going to be circling her fights now. That's for sure. I mean, she has something there. If she can put together some real wins and, you know, not have issues in the scale. She's being unique enough that that's going to sort of cut through the noise. I also do want to shout out Brian Battles post-fight speech where he just declared war on all of France, basically.
Starting point is 00:34:19 a stark contrast to Moikano who came in and was like, I am going to be the villain. And then he leads off his speech by being like, France is actually awesome. I've had a wonderful time here. But the French Revolution is bad. And then he went down that weird rabbit hole we don't need to discuss. Ryan Battle was just like...
Starting point is 00:34:36 He used words that I'm confident that you didn't watch Pedro Martinez press conferences growing up. He did not. And I'm confident you don't really watch the MLB network presently. Pedro Martinez is the most eloquent The Pedro Martinez Most eloquent non He's most eloquent speaker
Starting point is 00:34:56 Of the English language Whose first language is not English And this interview with Moycano Was like right there Like he's using words I'm like I don't use those words And I have been speaking English my entire life And like I don't know anyone that use those words
Starting point is 00:35:11 Like kudos to you man Like very strange I don't quite understand what you were screaming but like vocabulary-wise and verbiage, well done. He's reading the dictionary. The only other thing, when we touched on it briefly, because it's just not, Morgan Charié gets his first stoppage in the UFC
Starting point is 00:35:31 and it was a very nasty knockout, but, you know, no disrespect to Gabriel Miranda. It's not that meaningful, but the poppy guy from the crowd, this is a dude who can be a star if he can put together some wins for them. Certainly already is a star, frankly. in France, but certainly had some pop. And that was a nasty finish, well deserving of the bonus. And yeah, nothing else that honestly, like, I was really impressed by Cavalcanti's performance.
Starting point is 00:35:59 I thought she's kind of beat the crap out of Norcornaud, but that's, what are we? We're not here to talk about that. We're here to talk to you, people. You're the wonderful viewers of the MMA fighting YouTube network and web page and all those things. Casey, hop on in here. Let's answer some questions. and then we've got other work to do. And frankly, the University of Georgia Bulldogs
Starting point is 00:36:20 are playing a football game in the not too distant future that I would like to be able to at least watch while I'm working. Okay. First question. Where did we go? Casey Carpenter. Who's winning tonight, Jed, and how much of the state won't get to watch?
Starting point is 00:36:40 Best wish is everyone struggling with no power. I am absolutely terrified. We're playing Bama. at Bama in 30 some odd minutes. I'm less terrified because it kind of is meaningless. And a lot of the state is screwed. I am fortunately, obviously fine in a lot of this area. But Helen or Helene, I honestly do not know.
Starting point is 00:37:00 I've only read the name. I've never heard it pronounce. Really turfed up a lot of North Georgia and Tennessee. Like, I'm just horrible flash floods in a lot of places. So a shout out to you and your family, if you were affected, but I am fortunately okay. The weather is beautiful now. All right.
Starting point is 00:37:22 Let's talk about this. I like this question. Robert Thomas, is BSD not good, overhyped, or just struggling? I think that this is a fair question to raise now, though I don't think the answer is probably any of them. But Jose, you know, maybe a combination of some spots, but Jose, what do you think is where does BSD fall in this? range of options. He is certainly not, not good. Benoit's
Starting point is 00:37:51 and he's a very good mixed martial arts fighter. Um, hyped, of the three struggling, not good or hyped, I think height, over hyped would be the better phrase, but I don't even think, I even think that's a little harsh. Because losing to Dustin Porrier is not, like, you lost to Dustin Porreier, who's one of the greatest lightweights ever in a fight that he fought with staff infection on his face. And he even said, like, it would have been disrespectful to pull out and it was disrespectful to go in there.
Starting point is 00:38:26 So, like, who's to say if you was 100% how that fight would have played out? I still would. They were just a Porre. I said that. Casey and Jed, you all can't, can go back in our Slack channel. And I was pretty much the only one being like, I don't understand why y'all are picking against us and Portia. I don't get it.
Starting point is 00:38:40 I don't know. Yeah, I'm not a BSD guy. I'm big of an overhikes. I normally don't listen to what Casey has to say when he takes fights, but if you go through our Slack channel, there's like four or five slacks of people that'll be like, oh, it's going to be like, it's going to be sad just for you. I'm like, it's not.
Starting point is 00:38:59 Like it's just fucking poor. He's going to knock him dead. Anyway, like I said, too, Benoit won the second round against Hanata Moikano. And then the referee stops in the fight. And yeah, Casey's going to say his thing in a second, but like he got his face gashed open 90 seconds into it. and then won the second fight, and then he couldn't see. I don't think overhyped.
Starting point is 00:39:19 I don't think that's fair. I think this is a good test, and Moikano is just the more veteran fighter and has been in more big fights, and Moe Conno is probably just better than Benoit Santany right now. Like, Benoit's not a top five lightweight. Maybe he's not a top 10 lightweight, but I would say he's a top 15, top 20 lightweight, for sure. I would say at this moment in time,
Starting point is 00:39:42 and, you know, we can change our opinions. overhyped is probably the answer. Because his wins are good, but his wins are, you know, he beat Matt Favola, who also just got Nerf. And all the fights he was winning, he was beating guys that he should have beaten in ways he should have beat in them. Exactly. And he has come up against, undeniably, the two best fighters he has fought now, he has
Starting point is 00:40:07 lost to them definitively. And so, again, this is also a dude who's still really young. I think he started MMA like five years ago or something. And clearly has a ton of promise and talent. But I say it all the time, Jose, I know you're on board with this island. Lightweight is an impossible weight class. And basically anybody in the top 30 on a good night can beat anybody else in the top 30. And he's a guy who probably more often than not is the top 15.
Starting point is 00:40:36 But if you told me his next fight was, you know, against Thrasiam and he lost. It wouldn't stun me. But you think on the long, you know, the long bend of time, he will prove himself to be an extremely good fighter, who we just got really excited about because he looked incredibly awesome. We're like, fight for a title, let's go. He's probably not going to do that for a while, but plenty of time. And he's, he's sub 30 years old, so he's got a little bit of time.
Starting point is 00:41:06 Yeah, you guys are talking about matching me up with Fiziv next. Is that what you're saying? I just think that's a giant mistake for BSD. If I'm Fiziv, yeah, I sign up for that fight immediately. I think that's why when Dustin Poyer kind of saw that opportunity for BSD, while the hype that was on around him, considering what his actual resume is, Dustin Poyer saw something, you know. And for Zee, he should absolutely take that fight if it's offered.
Starting point is 00:41:30 If I'm BSD, I fight way back at the line. Some got someone in top 30, you know, around there. Maybe do two or three of those fights. Do not touch anyone near the top 20 for at least two fights. So I don't think I this is a this is a softball answer because I'm Ludovic Klein Klein's on I was going to say Ludovic Klein earlier yeah Klein wants his crack at a top 15 guy I think that would be reasonable there again it's lightweight man I don't care just pick two names out of a hat and go it's fine they're honest honestly if I'm BSD let's do this this let's go
Starting point is 00:42:06 the boxing route you fight Roosevelt Roberts don't fight Klein you just fight a guy no fight a guy I think only they're going to do that. Well, bite egg, just fight someone. Like, you need W's, you know, and you don't need tough bites right now. It's freaking good. God, lightweight. I'm just looking at lightweight right now. It's like,
Starting point is 00:42:27 Mirr-Tubek Oralbi is like not even remotely close to rank. He's like, that dude's a frigging monster. Good question, though. And I think it's a question that will be talked about a lot in the aftermath. By Drew Dolby. he's in like outside of the top 25 right now maybe that's just a he's just a lower that's the correct answer actually Jose has found it fight you dover yeah we yeah we I said Fiziv I was just like yeesh you know it was like yeah it's a fun fight for us
Starting point is 00:42:56 violent wise is is is Fiziv equivalent like is he good like he's lost the two guys in the top 10 as well like it or is Fiziv just you know getting these awesome mat like he just because he beat the fuck out of Moecono by head kicking him in front of nobody and Fight Island or he was getting the right matchups and that led to this. Like, it's the same thing. Like, like,
Starting point is 00:43:17 like, it's like, I would say, Ziv is way better than Dober. Yeah. I don't. I'm not talking about Dover. I'm like,
Starting point is 00:43:22 that's, Piziv is leagues better than Dover? I'm like, is Benoit and Fizive just the same things that started at two different times because Fiziv had a lot of matchups and a lot of exciting performances
Starting point is 00:43:33 and got thrown in with the sharks and lost two in a row. That's just the same thing that Benoit Sananis. Who did Fizzi, he lost a competitive fight against Gathe and he lost the camera. Gammot and the Gammot.
Starting point is 00:43:45 The camera, the end, yeah. I think it's how we do. I think it's how he's lost. BSD, I think you're doing too bad. We also don't, like, but it's,
Starting point is 00:43:53 it's very comparable because Mujiv blew his knee out and Moikhan and Benoit Sanzanis, I close. And they clearly lost a Gachi and they clearly lost to Porre. Like, I'm fine with... I do you think Ziziv has better wins, though?
Starting point is 00:44:09 For sure. But I also, because he started the UFC. He's had more time in the UFC. Like he, like, the biggest demonstration in those two is Fiziv did climb his way up and Benoit just went from for Volta to Port. That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:44:20 They just, they shock on them right to the town. If they did that to Fiziv, he would have lost too. Like, that's crazy. But the hype was there. I mean, like, the last three years, they're comparable. Black Friday is here at IKEA and the clock is taking on savings you won't want to miss. Join IKEA family for free today
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Starting point is 00:45:33 i guess what i'm talking about is he overhyped that's where that's what i mean i don't think he's a bad fighter i just believe i guess for me when i when i hear overhyped i think that's like because i think like darren till is the definite overhyped from benoit could be overhyped i just think I want to see him in a couple more fights but I'm going to label him a bust. I'm super not willing to label him a bust. No, no, I didn't. I was never going that route either.
Starting point is 00:45:58 Not saying he did and we're all thing. Let's move on. Because I want to get some other questions before we. Oh, got a super chat. Everett Price, considering his turn to full heel in the 14 second knockout in Charlotte, should Pooh Bear have changed his name to the nature boy? Woo!
Starting point is 00:46:17 I don't know if I wooed right or not, but, That's the woo you're getting. So, Jose, uh, kind of where, where are we at with old poo bear now? I mean,
Starting point is 00:46:28 you, you waxed poetic about this fight, but let's, let's talk a little bit about where Brian Battle is in. Because as you noted, when you talked about the fight, he's looking a lot better every time out. He is building something,
Starting point is 00:46:41 you know, the people are starting to know him as he cuts promos, gets a little more chatty in this way. What's, how are we feeling about, you know, his prospects in the welterweight division and making a real run here? I don't, I wouldn't slot him into the top 15 just yet, but I would very, I would put him in the
Starting point is 00:47:00 top 25, top 20. And if he wins another one, like he did, like if he goes out there and just kind pulls out a 3027 or 29, 28 decision that people aren't right at home about me, I put him just out maybe outside the top 15. I don't have the top 15 up in front of me right now. the problem with the well-the-way division until relatively recently it was like the top 10 was pretty stagnant no one was fighting each other so like there just wasn't a whole ton of movement
Starting point is 00:47:26 but Brian Battle is a very exciting fighter will he ever be champion? Don't know about that but if you take guys like him and Carlos Prattes and Chaos Williams is still out there and Nicholas
Starting point is 00:47:42 Dalby and not why he lost her or not obviously. Max Griffin, like there's a lot of names from like 16 to 25 that I would be very interested in seeing Jake Matthews like it would be a lot of exciting fights
Starting point is 00:47:56 I'd like to see him throw down in that right yeah I think that's totally fine. I love the comment of everyone, sorry Germain everyone keeps saying the lightweight division is so stacked but all the top have already lost to the champ so basically gatekeepers I'm not sure you understand
Starting point is 00:48:14 what that term means I mean the same thing happens. There's a champ There's a reason he's a champ. The same thing. Charles Oliver beat everyone on the top five until Islam showed up. Like there's always... This division's bad. Why would it be a good division if one guy is just better than everybody else?
Starting point is 00:48:31 Maybe it says more about that guy than it does about the strength of the division. Think about that one. Muddle on it. Okay, so let's fire a couple more here. We don't know there 10 minutes or so. Then we'll put in a... This is a quick one. because it's super chat.
Starting point is 00:48:49 Fahim, bigger start middleweight. Hamzat or Adasanya? Not really relevant to this evening, but I think it's undeniably Israel, Addisina. But Jose, you are more plugged into things like social media metrics, etc. So correct me if I'm wrong.
Starting point is 00:49:05 My reaction is, is he by a mile? I think it's not by a mile because I think people are just more intrigued by Hamzot, but all the comments are like he's not going to fight. I think pulling out of the Whittaker fight did some big damage in terms of the interest surrounding him. Israel is very clearly more, you know,
Starting point is 00:49:28 what's engaging and charismatic, but Hamzat just has, as the kids say, an aura about him just because there's a lot of questions surrounding him. Now, if he goes out there and beats Robert Whitaker, like some people think he is, then this is a very interesting question. But presently right now, Now, September 28th, 2024, it's Israel.
Starting point is 00:49:49 If he beats Whitaker and or becomes champ, I think he will surpass. And there was certainly a moment in time where he was the hottest name in the sport by a mile. But it's just his last couple of years have been really weird and I think taking a bit of the shine off him. And so, yeah, Izzy's, you know, the second greatest middleweight of all time and a top 20-ish fighter of all time. I'm going to default to him at least for the time being. Yeah. Yeah. Is he by a mile to me?
Starting point is 00:50:19 So if we're going by social media networks, it's not, it's not by a mile. I would bet that Hamzaat's very high there, but I'm not. Again, you know the answers to that more than I do. Chase, question for Jed. What's your dream outcome for Madison Square Garden? Me personally, mine is whatever results in a steep rematch. Imagine the outrage if we get John versus Steep A2. I do not believe there is a world in which we get John.
Starting point is 00:50:45 versus Steepay 2 Chase. I do not think any outcome other than a draw gets us there. And if a draw happens, then just burn the whole thing down. We don't deserve anything. Or no contest. John Jones does like to help people in the face. I guess no contest and draw operating the same in that regard. Fairpoint, Jose.
Starting point is 00:51:04 My dream outcome for MSG is pretty clearly that Steepa knocks John out because I think it'll be the funniest thing that's ever happened in the sport. And some funny shits happened in the sport. and I may never stop laughing. If you guys were there for the whatever, Jose, you're good at numbers, whatever the pay-per-view was that Sean Strickland became middleweight champion.
Starting point is 00:51:24 I don't know the number. 293, sure. That was the funniest thing that had happened in years in this sport. And our post show was me and Mike and maybe Shaheen and maybe somebody else there, maybe AK, and we were all just cracking up,
Starting point is 00:51:40 like, cackling hysterically the whole show long because Sean Stry's, could beat the soul out of easy. Like he beat him literally into not wanting to fight anymore. It was so ludicrous and hilarious that we couldn't stop. If Steepa waits three years and then Coles John, who is transparently just trying to fight the easiest fight he can for the most money, it'll be the funniest thing's ever happened.
Starting point is 00:52:05 So I'm desperately hopeful that that is what happens. Don't think it will. But if I could make one outcome happen in a fight. in history, it is no longer changing the Jose Aldo 13 seconds with Connor. It is now 100% steepa knocking out, John. All right. Two more comments before we get out of here. Beastman, Jose Jed, mustache.
Starting point is 00:52:35 How hard do you think it's going to be for Brendan Allen to build towards a title shot again, considering he's not necessarily a draw? So we touched on this a little bit, Jose, but But kind of obviously still a young man. What is the path for Brendan Allen to get back into title conversation? He just got to win. He just got to do what he was doing. The middleweight division, like we said,
Starting point is 00:52:55 like we're trying to match to make people ranked four and five. Like the after the, we don't, like the champion doesn't even have to fight books. Like Strickland DDP is not booked. Tom's out Whitaker is pretty much the only one in the top five that is booked right now. That's obviously because even if I just fought and Cabalio just fought. you just got to win and he's got to win over, he's got to pick up wins over guys that have either fought for the title or were
Starting point is 00:53:18 champion. That's Marvin the story. Fought for the title. It's beaten a lot of guys. You just got to keep winning. And just keep your name in that top seven, top eight mix. Yeah, I think that that's true. He had to win whatever seven to get here. It'll be less hard.
Starting point is 00:53:35 The road will not be as far because once you do get to that sort of level in the division, comes with some perks. You no longer have to win eight to move up to finally get those opportunities. But I suspect Brennan's going to have to fight backwards now at least once or twice, maybe defend his spot against the winner of Fluffy Hernandez versus Michelle Pereira, which is coming up later this year.
Starting point is 00:53:56 And he gets a couple of wins, you know, two, three wins, let the division shake out a little more. He will get an opportunity against a guy above him and then start the climb again. So, yeah, it's that. He's a young dude. to Jose's earlier point, to keep developing the skills. He can kickbox,
Starting point is 00:54:15 so he can strike. And honestly, I felt in this fight, he would have been far better served instead of shooting hapless takedowns to just commit to getting into a fist fight down the stretch with the Mavov because he was having some success
Starting point is 00:54:29 when he would do that. But he's clearly not all the way comfortable there yet. And so keep developing those skills, keep adding to the toolbox, and keep winning fights. Yeah, I thought coming into tonight, at the top two fights, Alan had the most to lose tonight. And I think this was a very bad loss for him. Just, and I actually agreed a lot with what Bisbing or Felt or we're saying on the broadcast, where you said right now that Brennan just needs to get more confident and believe in his hands.
Starting point is 00:55:00 Because I thought even involved coming into the fight had a big advantage standing. And he did, but not as big as I thought it was going to be. And, yeah, and if Alan just mixed it up better, mixed the martial arts better, rather than just wrestle. Because that first round, I mean, I think he used a lot of energy just to do no damage. And I think even if I felt that, it's like, oh, you're using a lot of energy, hold me down. And, okay, you got this round. But he took no damage, made no significant submission attempt. And going to imovovar it paid off.
Starting point is 00:55:35 And I thought Alan kind of He has the skills To beat him above He has the skills to be a top five fighter But I think mentally or something It's just not there And tonight was a very bad loss for him I feel
Starting point is 00:55:48 I'm with you I think he I didn't think of it in these terms But I think you're nail on the head He had the most to lose tonight And he lost it So But he's still got plenty of time
Starting point is 00:55:59 To rebuild himself So it's all is not lost But it's tough performance But it is a long road back It is a long road back It is a long road back form. And real quick, just to put a nice comment here. Hi, French Frog here.
Starting point is 00:56:13 I love that show personally. Can't wait to hear what you thought about it, guys. Broadly speaking, I enjoyed the show. I love early cards for us. Obviously, it's not even 7.30, and the fights are over. I don't have to work until 2 in the morning, kind of digest this. So that's always nice. The prelims were up and down.
Starting point is 00:56:34 They started off okay, and then the middle section got bad there in probably predictable ways, if we're being real. But then we were talking about it in the works slack. We really hope that this pacing picks up that the main car is better. And then immediately, Ziam delivers that K.O. Sharii delivers a knockout. They're like things picked up with the main card, which is really where all the style points were invested in this anyway. So rock solid B of a card for me over. all. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:05 And the French crowd is just amazing. They're undeniably the best crowd in the sport. 14. 14 fights is always going to be a slog at some point. I've never seen a 14 fight card go. That was awesome. I've never seen a 14. 14 fight cards are always going to be a slog.
Starting point is 00:57:20 And hopefully for us as fans, we got the good fights at the very top. So yeah. And credit to the crowd who never really faltered, they were always live. They were always up for it. Casey, I did see someone. ask about the Go Me Brito fight. And since we didn't talk about it, if you find that,
Starting point is 00:57:40 you pull it up. I just want to ask Jose feature fight. We did briefly touch on it. Joe Anderson Brito loses a splitie to William Gomi. Many people online I saw thought Brito deserved to win this fight. I don't think it was a robbery. I thought I personally
Starting point is 00:57:56 thought Gomi deserved to win the fight. How did you score this fight? Do you think it was a robbery? Are you like me as a close fight didn't go his way. It was a close fight. I scored it for Brito, but I was like, that could go,
Starting point is 00:58:09 that fight ended and I go, that was a fight. It wasn't, it wasn't like, I'm not going to be thinking about this fight for a long time. It's not a fight I'm going to walk right home about. But I scored it for Brito, but it is not a robbery,
Starting point is 00:58:23 that fight. Someone was winning 29, 28. I just didn't know him. I even think in the middle of the fight, Paul Felder was like, I forgot to be scoring this. Who's winning the fight right now?
Starting point is 00:58:35 Yeah, they actually said that. There you go, oh, yeah, I was just watching. I wasn't like, I don't like, I didn't like, I didn't like Brito's ceremonial weighing shenanigans, though. So I'll say that. That's all I got about this fight. But according to MMA decisions, about 75% of media members had Brito winning. Like, I had Brito winning.
Starting point is 00:58:55 Really? Yeah, only, yeah, something about 75%. And with the fans, 85%. 5% of fans had Brito winning also. Most people think the two judges that scored it for Gomi or Gomi won, scored the first round. And then everyone had 910 or 109 for Brito in the second. The first round was the swing around. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:23 Two judges had it for Gomi. And yeah, Gomi. Is it Gomi? Gomi. Okay. Go me. I yeah I thought GoMey won the first round
Starting point is 00:59:35 but that was around I was the least focused on as I was doing I agree and so like I couldn't at the end of it I was like I think
Starting point is 00:59:42 Go-Me has won this but maybe I'll go back but like you said not like the most my big thought on that is just man I really like joining some Brito and this was a bummer for me
Starting point is 00:59:54 actually I was going to ask you that you were very high in Brito coming into this was this just a bad fight for him was this just a bad night or do you still because you thought you thought he was a kind of a contender yeah and i and i knew gomi is good because he has been good like i think he outperformed my expectation certainly and i don't think rito fought like all the way smart at times and certainly faded a little down
Starting point is 01:00:18 the stretch um but mostly this was a oh i maybe i had a couple of like i maybe need to elevate my estimation not a like in in the co-main event i think less of brendan allen after that fight i don't i think the exact same of Nasardine Imov, and Britta now has gone down in my estimation. In this fight, I'm just, I think more of GoMe, the Jacqueline Cavalcanti, I think more of her after the Crono fight. There are a couple of years that just raised up,
Starting point is 01:00:44 and to me, this was GoMe stepping his game up more than Brito really faltering. Yeah, I didn't like Brito kind of his, doing his Linna Garcia kind of impression tonight. I thought that, is that normal of him, or is this something that he was kind of extra-aggressive tonight? Mostly hits people a little more, but like, yeah. But normally when he hits people, they die.
Starting point is 01:01:05 And Gomi was not getting hit as much and also wasn't dying. And so he didn't really have an awesome beat. If you go back and watch between rounds when they put, when they were having the coaches translated, is that Gomi's like, because he, even the commentary talked about it. Like everyone from that camp,
Starting point is 01:01:24 like Cyril Ghan, even vaugh for a bit. And like, they kind of outpoint you. and they just win an MMA fight. And then after the first round, they're like, we've got to stop doing that. Like, Brito's coming out here, guns blazing. We got to figure something out.
Starting point is 01:01:38 Yeah. And I thought that was, Gomi made adjustments and won the fight. So, good corner, I guess. They got their fighter to, they basically like, don't do the game plan. Do something else. Here's what you do. You can't do this point fighting thing where you stay away. Because the other thing about it, too, is, and I know Bisping was up and down.
Starting point is 01:01:59 I thought there were some moments early where I actually liked what he and Felder were doing in the booth. I thought his commentary got progressively awful as the evening went on. And in this fight particularly jumped out of me. He's like, Brito's still out there, just slinging him, and slowed down a bit. He very clearly has not there in the third round.
Starting point is 01:02:16 Like, because now Gomee can just weed him around by the nose and Brito can't cut the cage anymore because he is tired because he's been a hook in him the whole time. So like, I thought, I thought Jose just nailed it. Comey made a great adjustment and I thought that that won in the fight. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:35 Stood 10 toes when he needed to. Kept to get a great fight. That's why I feel better about him. Anything else was that in for us. That sounds like it's it. Yeah, that's it. I love that. It's 733 here on the East Coast.
Starting point is 01:02:49 So if you're on the East Coast, you'll have dinner, spend time with your family, maybe watch football or whatever else is you want to do. Then just rise in later tonight. Casey, I know you're very pumped about that. baseball is almost wrapping up Jose baseball season is over but they're still battling to make the wild card
Starting point is 01:03:09 other than that other than that evenifighting.com it's a great website and we've got all your post-fight coverage this will be up there we'll have the news from the winners and etc and tune in for that on to the next one still be coming at you tomorrow on the podcast network from Mike and AK
Starting point is 01:03:26 and until then drug Uc 307 boys Jose's going to be flying out to Salt Lake City soon I would imagine I didn't actually talk to him with us but it's got to be happening in the near future and uh Alex Perez he's going to be booping a dude it's going to be real fun let's enjoy it
Starting point is 01:03:44 thanks for tuning in love y'all bye

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