MMA Fighting - UFC Perth Post-Fight Show: Reaction To Carlos Ulberg's Brutal Knockout Of Dominick Reyes

Episode Date: September 28, 2025

Carlos Ulberg made a statement, and sent a message to Magomed Ankalaev and Alex Pereira in the process on Saturday night in the main event of UFC Perth. Is Ulberg next in line for a title fight after next weekend's pay-per-view card in Las Vegas? Following the UFC's latest Fight Night event, MMA Fighting's Mike Heck, Jed Meshew, and E. Casey Leydon react to Ulberg's brutal knockout win over Dominick Reyes, discuss if the win gets him the next championship fight at 205 pounds, and if this was the end of Reyes' title hopes for good. Additionally, they discuss the chaos of Neil Magny's comeback submission win over Jake Matthews, Jimmy Crute's unique submission, other moments from the event, and much more. Follow Mike Heck: ⁠⁠⁠⁠@m_heckjr⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow Jed Meshew: ⁠⁠⁠⁠@JedKMeshew⁠⁠⁠⁠ Subscribe:⁠⁠⁠⁠ http://goo.gl/dYpsgH⁠⁠⁠⁠ Check out our full video catalog: ⁠⁠⁠⁠http://goo.gl/u8VvLi⁠⁠⁠⁠ Visit our playlists:⁠⁠⁠⁠ http://goo.gl/eFhsvM⁠⁠⁠⁠ Like MMAF on Facebook: ⁠⁠⁠⁠http://goo.gl/uhdg7Z⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow on Twitter: ⁠⁠⁠⁠http://goo.gl/nOATUI⁠⁠⁠⁠ Read More: ⁠⁠⁠⁠http://www.mmafighting.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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You're listening to the Vox Media Podcast Network. Yes, ladies and gentlemen, the victory horns found just before 1 a.m. Eastern Time, the RAC arena was, I'm going to say it was rocking, but it was somewhat into what happened in Perth. I know they're local fighters, the Kiwi fighters, been very, very well tonight, but none more important than the main event. Carlos Olberg may have just punched this ticket to a title fight, knocking out Dominic Reyes, the fairy tale story, the comeback story of the Devastator, unfortunately comes to an end, but Carlos Olberg gets a vicious knockout in round one.

And according to him, after a conversation with Hunter Campbell, Carlos Olberg is on his way to Las Vegas. He will be Caged Side for the main event, the light heavyweight title next weekend. a UFC 320 between Alex Pereira as he challenges Maglamed and Goliath wore the light heavyweight belt. We put a cap on UFC Perth right here, right now. I am Mike Hack. Thank you for joining us on another post-fight show and joining me to react to the madness.

That was UFC Perth, the one and only Jen Mishu. How you doing, buddy? Did the dogs win? That's a no. They were losing. I didn't know how it ended. I'm sorry. I wasn't doing great.

I'm really not doing great now that you reminded me of that. I'm sorry. I didn't. I know it was 24 to 20. I had like eight minutes to play. That was the last day of my life. The dogs suck. Casey's leaving.

I don't even have like a John Cena, the final time t-shirt, which I looked into getting, but could not get one in time. So, but we are going live before 1 a.m., which is nice. I was already banking mentally like, sweet, I'm going to go to bed at three and then I'm going to wake up at five.

That'll be fun. Maybe now I'll get three hours of sleep this evening. Yes. Plus, the U.S. is just getting dusted in the Ryder Cup, which is never fun. Not a great showing from the boys today. Perhaps they stayed up and watched what Neil Magnet did tonight. And maybe they'll do something that's ever been done in Ryder Cup play and win 10 singles matches tomorrow. but that's not what we're here.

Pretty cool. I'm just going to let the audience know here. As Jed alluded to it is Casey's final show, his final night with us here at Emma Fighting. So Jed and I are going to touch on the main event. And then we're going to bring Casey and we're going to answer some questions. We're going to get the hell out of here. This is not going to be a long post-fight show.

But I want Casey to be a part of this as much as possible. But Jed, plan and simple, we watched what Carlos Oldberg did tonight. He came into this fight on an eight-fight win streak. After losing his debut, was just melted everybody, beats Volcanozumir in a forgettable fight, beats Janbovich in a competitive yet very forgettable fight. And it seemed like Dominic Reyes was the guy that was guaranteed a title shot if he won this fight because the UFC loves a good feel, good story.

Could Carlos Holberg get there? He needed a big moment, a big finish. And that's exactly what he did. So Jed, I ask you, is Carlos Holberg getting a title shot after what he did tonight? Yes, it might not be next, but his next fight is for the belt, which is the same line I used on the preview show for Don Marias, because we mostly talked about Don Marias because he was just a better story. But I think the same holds true. I think credit to Carlos Alberg, because he did the most he could do to assure himself of a title fight. Right.

Like, think about it. Heading into the Jan Blahovic fight, people really kind of thought that that might be a title eliminator or that if Allberg wins that. he's probably getting it. But that fight was such a snoozer because Janbovich is so difficult to compete against that it was like, well, there's no chance he's fighting for the belt after that. Not a problem this time around, right?

Like a first round knockout, the fight, I mean, I know a lot of strikes weren't thrown, but this fight was deeply uncompetitive. It was basically Olberg setting up Reyes the whole time. Reyes threw eight strikes before he got knocked out, and that's even being generous if we're being real here. Like he was never comfortable, Oberg controlled everything about it,

and then lowered the boom. That's as much as you can ask for a person. The issue he faces is there's a bit of a logjam. And I know that you mentioned it. He said he was going to go sit cage side for Alex Pereira versus Megamacolaev 2. He may well do that. And maybe he is probably the front runner right

this moment. But if Magamanankalaya beats Alex Pereira and Yuri Prajka beats Kulayal Roundtree, I kind of think that they'll still just go to the known quantity of Yuri Perhashka. Maybe not, but either way, Ulberg isn't fighting again until he's fighting for the belt. If somebody jumps over him, he'll be the guy who's weighing in as the backup fighter. He'll be waiting in the wings. And if not, it's the other way. He fights him, maybe Yerri. is the guy waiting in the wings or Khalil is the guy waiting in the wings or evit maybe Alex wins moves up to the heavyweight and it's allberg fighting yury for the undisputed vacant title or whatever his next fight though 100% no doubt about it is for

the title yeah i think of egg alive wins he's in no if Pereira wins he's got a very good chance if Pereira's going to stay at 205 because Pereira's already knocked out roundtree he's already knocked out Yuri twice. So that clears everything up. Either way, even if he goes up and vacates, he's fighting one of these guys. But yeah, I'm kind of with you. If Ancolaif wins,

Yuri probably gets it. And if not, if Cleo wins, there's some heat there. I mean, Cleo Roundtree went on a friggin rant on Rogan show. He does not like Bogum and Ankelai very much. So there's heat there already.

So I think the UFC loves Khalil too. Yeah, they absolutely do. And that fight's going to be. I think there's a world where he's not next, but his fight is 100% next. There's just no world in which he's fighting somebody else before he fights for the belt. By the way, for those wondering, Dominic Reyes, through a total of 11 strikes in the fight landed five.

Carl Sahlberg, I don't believe either of those numbers are correct. And Carl Sleberg landed 11 of 17 strikes. I watched that fight, Mike. I watched that fight very closely. I would like a UFC stats person to point out the five strikes, Domney Graz landed. Not even, there's not even a bit.

It's just like he may, his body may have touched Carlos Alberg. That's not any definition of a strike landing. Like he, he landed nothing. He landed zero things of consequence, of significance at all. He got,

he ate a few. Alberg didn't land that many, but he did land some, and then he killed him. A fight was, Don was never in that fight. A very weird performance from him. According to the stats, head strikes, Dominic Reyes landed zero. One of one to the body for four leg strikes. That's it. No head strikes.

Over five. Not real leg kicks, but okay, sure, whatever. His did connect with some part. portion of the tip of his foot connected with some portion of Carlos Holberg, I guess. Did you feel, because I felt literally in the first, and I know, especially with light heavy weights and heavy weights, when there's pivotal stakes like this one had that guys can be a little bit tentative. And I think, you know, you laid out perfectly. I think Dominic Cruz sort of set it up perfectly in the broadcast too. Carlos Sleberg is just baiting Dominic Cruz.

You're just waiting for him to come in and get impatient. and that's when he was going to capitalize. Were you surprised with how hesitant Reyes was in this fight? Because especially with the story and the feel good stuff, like, I was like, I kind of, I felt like 90 seconds into the fight that Reyes had was not going to win. It was one of those things where I just, I just was like, nope, this guy is not beating Carlos Holberg tonight.

Yeah, I immediately knew the fight was over. I talked about in the preview show. I thought this would happen later. I didn't think it would happen immediately because I'm you know Carlos Olberg is pretty good at controlling distance creating the fights he wants to fight in

and Dominic Reyes has never had like the best footwork or whatever like he's just been athletic it's like the straw that stirs a drink for Dominic Reyes he's an athlete and even that's sort of tapering off a little bit as he's gotten a little older

and so he never had like the best footwork work he just could move a little bit because he's quick and the fact that olberg immediately just took the space from him and just ate the space away from reyes made him instantly uncomfortable i thought reyes would be the guy trying to come forward a little more olberg would move away create distance and force dom to close through the distance and encounter him and then once he started doing that i thought dom would sort of recede into himself right and be like okay i can't can't find this guy. I don't want to walk into these shots anymore. But instead it was a little bit

the inverse, whereas Ulberg forced him back. Dom immediately got sort of off kilter by being on the back foot, couldn't find his way through the distance and ultimately resorted to really bad ideas to work through that distance and got paid, who got punished for it. Because you started to see it a little bit as the fight round up like Dom couldn't get his back off the fence because he doesn't have the footwork to do it. And even though Olberg wasn't hitting him that much or like pressuring him really, he was in his space. And so then the best thing Dom could do was apparently throw five leg kicks, which

again, I don't agree with. And he would start trying to come forward with a big strike, a big kick, a big knee. And Oldberg would just slide out of the way. And then you would see Dom not have anything. You'd be like, okay, shit, that didn't work. Now I have to reset and get out of here because I'm caught here. And then the last time, Alberg half step back. Instead of doing the full slide away, he just did a faint step back. Dom is in this no man's land and caught there. And he's caught there with Alberg on an angle at him. And Alberg is just like, gotcha bitch. Papa! That was the end of it.

I mean, this was, he got, he got taken to school here in a very serious way. And, you know, always there can be caveats. We don't know if Reyes was having an off day or whatever, but it looked like Dom was just thoroughly unprepared for the fight that was in front of him tonight. Does this put it into the Dominic Reyes fairy tale? Yeah, probably. But like, but that's okay, right? Because the fact that he got on a win streak is sort of all that mattered.

Like, you don't get Disney stories. They don't really happen. Like, Kurt Warner happens once in a, blue moon, right? Like, it's not a thing that happens where some dude who's out of the league randomly gets a call and then there he is and he's the MVP. Like Dom Reyes fighting back from the brink of legitimately like the end of his career and being stone cold, the biggest what if in the history of the sport, like the Lynn bias of MMA. What if Dom Cruz had gotten the decision he deserved over John Jones, right?

Like, and he still is that because that will never not be, right? Like, we can always wonder what would have happened, right? Like his life, the meaning that that would have been it, he'd not gotten sort of robbed from the judges that evening. But it is such a better thing that that wasn't the catalyst, you know, the catalyzing moment for a really sad collapse of a career, that he, got his legs under him in the end. And sure, he's probably not fighting for a belt, but 205 is absolute rancid.

So we can't say it's 100% that he's not. And he's already a winner in that he got back to this stage in the first place. So it's a little sad. It certainly would have been a great story. But, you know, it is what it is. I think he should continue to hold his head high for accomplishing what he has regardless. We have bonuses, Jed. Care to take away a guess at said bonuses?

I'm going to go ahead and throw Carlos Olberg is out there. I am going to go ahead and say Neil Magni is out there. I'm going to go ahead and say Jimmy Crute because that was cool. I could see him not getting one, but I'm going to throw him out there as well. Because this is not obviously, in case it wasn't apparent, there's not a fight of the night. that's just not a thing I'm trying to remember the parochic knockout

that feels like that happened six days ago he kind of it doesn't feel like how they're going to reward it but neither is the Roustin one really probably not but I'll say Tom Nolan because he's my boy and he blew up his knee in the fight Allberg

Nolan Crout Parachic No magna Are you kidding That's ridiculous No magni Dude magny is the guy

Who most deserves it He should have got two modus To that Jimmy Krook can get it over Magni because it's cool Like nobody does Like a It does like a

Camel Watch Yeah So like Wikipedia has it listed As a reverse can opener which I guess is like maybe not incorrect. William on Twitter of Open No Grappling, who I trust called it a seven-year-old choke. And I trust him with any grappling knowledge.

So like that is kind of what I'll default to. But it was honestly just like a cop joke. Yeah. It was just like choking somebody with a nightstick, only that nightstick was your forearm. Yeah, they called it. Someone called it the Steiner recline. For pro wrestler for wrestling fans.

That's the Scott Steiner submission, which is pretty good call. For him, he gets the bonus over anybody because he did something I've never seen done in the UFC Octagon. But like, Neil Magny, come on, bro. It was the second best, like second biggest and frankly the best fight on the card. Honestly, we'll talk about the controversy of round one. But like, incredible comeback for Neil Magny. How do you not reward that? Brandon Parenthick in a fight that was supposed to be on contender series,

clobber's a dude and doesn't even clobber him like one hit or quitter. He kind of just mashed on him for a little bit until he finally slept. Like Neil Magny got job. Agreed. Rest of the lineup in the Obring Casey and Jimmy Crute, submission win. Jack Jenkins gets a decision win over Ramon Tavares. We mentioned Neil Magnum. I'm sure we'll get questions about it.

Tom Nolan submits Charlie Campbell. That was probably the most fun fight of the entire card, all four minutes and eight seconds of it. Lightway, it's coming through. Proceeding that was Navajo Sterling, hit off a belato. That was a fight that happened. They had moments.

Cam Raustin destroys Antier Petroski, Jamie Malarky wins, Colby Thickness wins, although there are some annoyances that happen there. Colby Thickness, shout-out. to him crafty cheating by Colby thickness because he was losing almost as a direct result of it.

Yeah, kicked him square in the balls and that to me I think that was a very smart move because he knows the point wasn't going to get taken and in that situation, at point should have absolutely been taken. Michelle Montecue with a debut win over Luana Carolina.

And shout out to referee Steve Percival who did take a point because he is apparently not bad at his job. Yes. We mentioned Parachic and how about Alexia Tynara, the newest ranked strawway come Tuesday defeating Loma Lekbunmi, 3027s across the board. She just dominated that fight.

So that was an impressive performance. She's going to be someone to watch at 115 pounds. No doubt about it. She's fun. She's got an energy to her. She's very physical in there. She could strike. She can grapple.

She's going to be very fun to watch. She is just a new human being as opposed to the same 12 people that have been in the rankings of that way class for almost a decade. She's a new human being. That's great. Great for her. Way to be new. Way to be a human being. Way to not be McKinsey Dern or Mandalaymo or Jan Sheldon, Tatiana Sores.

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I want him to be here to answer the people's questions. No sleeves, no mercy. Mr. 107 himself. The man who a couple years ago would have opened. is a minus 275 favorite against Patty Kimballett. Casey, how do we feel about Carl Solberg's performance tonight? Fantastic. I was pretty confident that Oberg was going to win tonight.

I didn't think it'll be that quick. Actually, I think Jed kind of nailed it. He just, he had, he had Reyes figured out very quickly. Almost instantly. Yeah, yeah, I was like, and then, was it, Rayis kind of kept throwing that little high kick. Like he ate in, oh, where it was time again. Yeah, and he just stepped in and just got no coughing nose. It was that.

I'm sorry? Where's Ray's train? He trades down in Victorville, and they kind of a, Victorville is kind of a small city that you kind of drive past on the way to Vegas. Yeah. It's, it's, I guess this might be part of L.A. County. I'm not really sure, but it's way out of that. It's about San Bernardino County.

So it's just, thank, thank, thank you, Esther, then. So, yeah, he's with the team that kind of, like, got him to the dance. Yeah. And I think, I think Joe Stevenson is saying, I don't know if that's his coach or he's still. That sounds right. Out there. Yeah. That's exactly.

Sounds correct that Joe Stevenson's involved. Yeah. So, but Dominic Ray is like, I hate going this route, but like, is that, does he need a better camp? I hate saying it. I don't like, I don't like doing that kind of question. Oh, he did. He did that. No.

No. He was bouncing around with everybody. Oh, okay. So we went back home and there. Yeah. Yeah. And then he went back to the old team and he started winning again. So, okay.

He was like, maybe I was just doing too much. I was overthinking it. And I just went back home with my old team and started winning fights again. So. Yeah. I've never seen, not never, but I think he's just a limited fighter. But as you were talking, Casey, it was just like, oh, yeah. He, see, really, it was really just like, oh, city kickboxing.

is a very good team at building a game plan and like seeing particular things to take advantage of and they clearly said scouted domerius they just clearly had scouted what to do and he had no plan yeah it was they've taken away my A game it was crazy just like paul feldr was saying yeah and all the fighter meetings dominic where it's like i'm going to really mix it up like he's not going to know what's coming and that just wasn't true and i was like what does it make it up that look like I was wondering if Dom was going to shoot takedowns. Like that, I was really interested to see what that would look like. Because Dom's actually like a nasty grappler.

Would have been a smart move. I just, yeah, I just always feel bad for fighters like Reyes when like so much was on the line and it got knocked out like that, fly 20 hours. And you get knocked out before you even kind of break a sweat. It's just, it's a tough game. It's a tough game. It's a tough life. And it just- He had such a sick walkout song. I was like, damn.

I was like, it's going to happen. It's going to happen. He's going to go fight for the belt. Or he's going to fight John Jones at the White House. Like, we're talking about it. We talked about him so much. And I was just like, right the wrong. And now it's, now he's going to fight Navajo Sterling next.

Yeah, you'd just be that guy to build up other guys. They can't do another city kickboxing, dude. They can't just be like, hey, fight Navajo Sterling. and then fight the other one, Brando Parachic. They can't just be like, here are all the KB guys, fight them and lose. Oh, by the way, that's what happened.

The Carlos Silberg, Dominic Reyes fight, obviously was a big moment, but that was nowhere near the biggest moment in combat sports today, gentlemen. I don't know if you guys saw. Spotten Fight Night 2 went down in Brazil. I should. And, yeah, Vanderle Silva.

competed in his first fight since losing to Rampage Jackson. I think that was in 2018 in Bellator. So it was seven years. He fought a gentleman by the name of Asolino Fratis. In the main event, it was supposed to be an exhibition fight. And Fratis is a pro boxer. And Vandali Silver was like 50 pounds bigger than him. And they were going to go have an exhibition fight.

and Brentes was just kind of tagging Wandy around in the first round. It wasn't looking good. And Van der Leasbitt apparently listens to a lot of our shows. He's like, you know what? You know what? I'm just got cheating a whole bunch. Headbutts, got three points taken away, and then gets disqualified. And Frantzis celebrates the DQ.

He gets up, literally jumps on the freaking turnbuckus. I'm so glad you brought that up. It was the best part of the whole thing. It's so funny. Because, like, if you were tuning. in to the one semi illegal stream that was up on YouTube

just like a guy streaming it not associated with the event I'm pretty sure he wasn't like doing a broadcast wasn't like doing a replay of what happened it was just showing this dude in victory pose and Van de lae's unconscious

he'd be like oh Vandy got knocked out and that's not what happened but that guy was just like I am the champion and it ruled. Yes. And wait, that was before Vandaddena got knocked out. Oh, yeah. So DQ happens.

He celebrates. Referee calls it. He wins by DQ. He's like, yeah, I fucking did it. And then all hell breaks loose. The teams come together, including Fabricio Verdoom. He gets in there and a brawl start. A brawl starts.

Apparently Crazy Orsports too because Vandy got. They're chucking them. Yeah. They're chucking them. All of a sudden you see Van der Leis Silva just standing in the middle of the ring. And then all of a sudden you just see fistfly and Silva goes down in a heap. He is out cold on his back. I mean, just just slab.

It looked like it looked like when Rampage knocked him out in the UFC. He had that kind of boom just out. I mean, just flat. You were watching why, right, Jed? Like, what are you thinking if you're watching? It was. Well, the whole. thing was just chaotic and crazy

because you're just like what the fight had devolved into insanity because maybe they should have gotten DQ that was reasonable like he's losing and then it's just then he's just cheating and he hits a straight up left way headbutt which was sick honestly

bring headbutt to Nive and Mae guys it's the best standing headbut should absolutely be legal out to Hill I'll die on or exhibition boxing either way or bring it to one either way well just straight up left way headbut But then just like, he just started fighting through the referee.

Like the ref would be like, hey man, stop cheating. And he would just keep trying to like punch through the intervening referee. And so the ref is like, I'm going to take two points because you punched me a bunch too. Whatever. So it's absolute anarchy going on here. And I'm here for it. Like I was living it. And then all of a sudden the DQ happens and just.

It's like, what the shit is going on? And then the brawl happens. Like, oh, strike force, Memphis or whatever the hell. Nashville. Nashville, Nashville. Not Memphis, Nashville. Same state. Like, oh, this is Strike Force Nashville.

And I can't, I don't remember. In my head, it felt like Vandal had, like, started being involved. But then was, you know, he's in boxing gloves. So he's like kind of, it looked like he was maybe trying to just be like, hey, guys, like pull people off and intercede. And some dude out of nowhere in a tux just cracks him, man, like a clean hook to the jaw. And, you know, if you think too hard about it, it's very sad. But if you're just like, that was chaotic and wild, it's pretty fun.

So do that. Don't think about how earlier this year, Vandale wrote a very heartfelt email about how he needed money from the lawsuit settlement because he is suffering traumatic brain injury issues and he needs that money to improve the quality in his life. Don't think about that part because then it's really sad to think about him getting slabbed like he did. Because buddy, that one, that one's going to leave Mark. Yeah.

It was a straight up, you know, we never saw really the crazy horse thing. We saw bits and pieces. It was the crazy horse knockout. just 25 years later, however 30 years. It wasn't in Saitama. It wasn't at a random locker room in Saitama. It was in somewhere in Brazil, I'm not even sure where. Was we there?

No, he was not there. He was not there. Okay, in person. All right. Oh, my takeaway, when I watched that footage, I was like, yeah, it's not like footage. Like, we're seeing some secret, like, you know, security camp footage. Like, dude, if you're in a bra like that, Van der Leigh,

don't just stand there. hands down, put your hands up. You always head on a swivel, Van der Leigh, come on. You've been enough brawes. Head on a swivel. I'm now re-watching this to. So he's definitely, he's definitely involved early. Yep.

And then he backs out. Backs away. And now he just stands there, hands down. And then he, yeah, he just gets, I mean, he walks right into, I think that's a left hand. by a dude in the tucks I don't want to say it was a sucker punch either the guy was kind of right in front of him I yeah that's the

hips are square to the opponent so yeah yeah and then chill like everyone's like sad to do we do like the Twitter reacts and stuff so that was like my job to try to find tweets

and everything and most of it's just like shake your head I know Kyle Bahalio was pretty pissed off about it he translated that and we were on the bottom. Most of it was just like crazy.

Wow. And then frigged Shale's like, Wendy was knocked out cold by a man wearing a tuxedo, true story. And I was like, you son of a bitch. It's tough. Look, I mean, James Bond is knocked out many an individual. So no shame in that, Vandaleigh. James Bond is a tough cookie.

Floored by a man where it a cumberbund. That's lazy bed for you. It's true. If you just read that, that comment and said who wrote it and gave me three guesses. I first, before you, I hope,

I hope this is going to be officially in Wikipedia, as the Florida man wearing in Cumberbun. It should be. Yeah. That was, that was spot in fight night too. And if you want to get the results of the rest of the card, head to FAPFighting.com.

But golly. What a card it was. Man, there were some wild stuff happening. And, uh, we don't need to like, focus on it.

You all see the clip of the one dude fighting three little people at a time? Yes. I don't know what organization held that on, but man. Okay. It was a wild day in MMA. Those three, okay, those three little people, they did, they need to get together and make a plan because you can't go one at a time. They went one at a time.

What are you doing, little guys? And that first one, flew. The first one, he had to fly. They were not. It was not a tactical display from them. We had a guy like basically take a knee and tap. Oh, yeah, the guy who auto lost, that rocked two. It was a wild day in MMA, man.

It really was. The only won't. The walkie stuff happened. It's crazy. Wait until next week. Next week should be nuts. Usman Hughes to the PFL card. Then we got BKFC.

Usman Hughes is next week? It's Friday. It's Friday. What? I did. Yeah, DFL cards Friday. That one snuck up on me. All right.

You're welcome. We got PFC and UFC 3 on Saturday. It's going to be crazy. Crazy-ass week, for show. All right. Thank you for the information. Great website, guys, by the way. Great website.

Great website. We got some super chats before we get to the regular questions. Daniel. My first ever event, not bad. Ticket costs 75 bucks Australian. All right. That's the free market. for you. 75 is not an unreasonable amount of money to pay to go see a live event of any kind,

frankly. Yeah. There are tickets dropped to 50 from what I was told. Yeah. That's what they should cost. Yeah. 100%. Yeah, they got dropped. They got they got reduced big time because they weren't selling. Then they reduced the prices and they started selling. So I don't think there'll be any gate records coming out of this card. I cannot imagine so. But yes, for 75 bucks, I wouldn't be totally reasonable thing to do. So I didn't have like the TV cranked the whole time. Am I crazy to think it sounded dead in there? Like I didn't hear.

It was substantially more quiet than most road events. Yeah, it was why. It was pretty crazy. It never got. It never got big. Yeah. It never got big. Paris is not at all.

I don't. I mean, I never saw the crowd really to know like how many empty seats there were. My guess is that it just never got big because there were empty seats. And there was never like, what was there to get big about? So I think it just was a combination of factors. But yeah, it definitely, there was a point during the main card where I was like, it feels

really quiet. And I was like, is the commentary not on, but I was hearing Brendan Fitzgerald speak? And I was like, no, obviously the commentary is on. but somehow this just feels oddly silent for a card. Yeah. Yeah, it was just it was. Yep. I thought the broadcast trio tonight was great.

They're really. I thought they're really good. Belder makes everybody better. Cruz is really good tonight because he didn't have to deal with like anyone making fun of them or talking over him. He could just like be an analyst and talk about. I usually hate Cruz. I thought he was fine tonight. Yeah, he was really good.

I thought he just keeps everyone balanced, I feel. Yeah. He tells funny too. Like he's still funny and like adds a little personality, but he doesn't try to like step on Dom and all. And that's like what makes Dom better. Give him a lane and let him cook. But when he feels like another A personality,

he's trying to like steal the shine from him, he tries to fire back. But that didn't happen tonight. I thought he did a great job. Like I said, I think he, he nailed the main event. He like told us what to look for.

And that's exactly what happened. And that's exactly how the fight ended. So I thought he did great. Man, just it was a, the card I think did over delivered in a sense. I mean, not not exceedingly over delivered. But those it dropped those two fights that dropped out made the card much more. I don't know. Yeah.

It would have been it. Yeah. It could have been a bad. It would have lost another. If we give, we're straight 11. The main card being five fights was better, but even then it still felt like, like the Magni fight happened. I'm like, oh, I was like, oh, shit, there's only two more fights left. And then I was like, I saw Jack Jenkins walk out.

I was like, oh, shit, there's three fights left. I did one of those two. What do you laugh at over there? Oh, our dear friends over at submission radio, shout out Dennis, who is obviously boots on the ground, this taking place in his backyard. He's doing some tweeting from the post fight. And Dave Shaw said a couple of funny things. but the one that jumped out because we had just mentioned it.

Oh, no. Although ticket prices got slashed, Dave Shaw says UFC Perth is the highest gate in a UFC fight night card in Australia. So either Dave Shaw is just lying, which I think could absolutely be the case in this instance, or as Dennis points out and is subsequently in the tweet, ticket pricing increased since the last fight night card in Australia is pretty substantial. so certainly could be like it could be true. What was the last time there was a freaking fight night in Australia? Funny you should mention that.

Again, Dennis covers that. It was JDS versus Tui Vasa and Adelaide. What year? What was that? No, Mark Hunt was also on the card. So it had to be five years ago. I have to look it up. Adelaide, huh?

2018. So seven years ago. Seven years. Okay. All right. Yeah, because basically they go for pay-per-views. So seven years, a pretty big boost. I mean, shit, just the floor seats that they probably did mostly move.

So I could believe it. $152. The total gate was just over a million dollars. I could believe it. I am still a little bit skeptical given the price slash. But by the way, by the way. Jake Matthews fought on that card, UFC Fight Night Australia, submitted in the third round on that card as well by Anthony Rockwell-Mart. Wow.

Maybe you should avoid the fight nights in Australia. I would like you guys to know something really important. I'm looking at just a gigantic spider. So if that thing makes a move towards me, you're going to see me in a not flattering lion. he's on the four wall but he's going to be in my line of sight in perpetuity and if he's not

I'm going to freaking run but as long as he stays over there we're cool but if he shifts you might if I get up and make a quick move know why okay all right

it's not like an Australian huntsman spider whatever those drop but like I mean this thing is a full inch across of its body. So he's a big fella and I don't... Right. We're in an uneasy standoff right now.

You know what I'm saying. All right. Rest of the super chats. Calibrator. Maggi, the first fighter to go one in one in the same night. All right, let's touch on it. Let's hit it. Casey, what did you think of that?

Definitely not the first fighter to do that. By the way, fine. Great, great comment. What did you think of that whole situation? So if you missed it, Jake Matthews had a nasty gilly goose gang on Neil Magny. It looks like Magny's right arm was like going limp. So the referee like jumps in and is like,

okay, we're done here. And then as he does that, the horn sounds. And Neil Magny shoots up like he's Sean Michaels mounting a comeback. Just kicks up. He's like, hey, what are you talking about? I'm fine. here. I'm good. And Jake Matthews and his team are celebrating. Matthews getting ready to jump on the cage. He's like, what? I didn't win. And the referee's like, oh, he's good, all good. And then

the fight continues on. Jake wins round two. And then Neil Magny, Neil Magnees him around three and gets the finish. Your thoughts on this. Was this good? By the letter of the rule, Jake Matthew should have been the winner. But I think the referee made a whoopsie. and we're just going to let it go. And yeah, that's what happened. The referee messed up. Check the arm. Magny was not out.

Magny was in a spot. I think he broke it down pretty well. He felt that he was in a tight spot, no doubt. But he was not out. And he heard the 10 second timer. He counted in his head 10, no, 9, 8, or 1. And by 1, he's like, all right, I don't need a. This arm that was loose wasn't really doing anything.

There's nothing to grab. So it's like, all right, I'm just going to have it out here. And the referee took that as him. passing out. He wasn't passed out. He was just relaxed and a referee messed up. And if I'm Jake Matthews, you, there's, I don't know, you could appeal appeal. I don't think anyone's going to care because you got, you kind of lost and the referee was a mess up on the referee. But by the letter of the law, Matthews should have been the winner at 459 in the first round. Jed? I mean, I mostly agree. I don't actually.

actually think, I think I disagree with the final point. I think that by the letter of the law, what should have happened is the fight was stopped and the fight was errantly stopped. So it should have been a no contest at 4.509 in the first round because Magdie was obviously not unconscious. So it's like whenever, who was the one where the ref like did totally botch it and called this stuff? I just, I'm forgetting this.

I can't remember who it was because it's 2 a.m. or whatever. My brain doesn't work. But like he obviously just did it. And I don't really blame the ref because like I get it. It was a, it was an awkward situation basically. Like I think he probably would have been better about it. But because it was just like right at the buzzer, things just kind of got sped up in a strange situation. And like these happen.

And so I think that by the letter of the law probably should have been a no contest at $459 in the first round. But the spirit of the law is correct. And that's what happens. Like, okay, well, instead, we're just going to restart the bout. The first round was functionally over, right? And we'll move forward. And I don't, you know, if Jake Matthews wants to waste his time and money appealing, he is certainly within his rights. it will not work for him and I would strongly encourage him not to because the other fact of the matter is like that's not why he lost.

I do understand that it is hard to compete after you think you've won, right? You've had the emotional dump like that is real. But that's just sort of a tough break, right? Like that happens. You know, Anderson Silva arguably really thought he beat Michael Bisping. maybe he was putting on a show hard to really know what was in his mind but like that is a real thing

but you know you're professional fights not over you gotta get back in and do your job and he did mostly again do his job until the third round when Neil Magni was just like bro I've been fight I have the second most

fights in USC history or whatever the hell that number's at like been doing this a long time and we talked about it off air. And I maybe mentioned this before on the preview show. I did not bet this fight because there's just not a

chance in hell I'd bet Jake Matthews because this fight is exactly the kind of fight that Jake Matthews loses in exactly this fashion and it's exactly the kind of fight that Neil Magne wins in exactly this fashion. This was like the perfect meeting

point of Jake Matthews failings and Neil Magne's successes. And it looked like for most of the fight that, oh, actually Jake Matthews has turned a corner and he's going to get past this. Nope. Nope. No. That train was not late. It ran right on time. So Jake Matthews, you know, can maybe feel that he was a little unlucky, but I don't think he should feel hard done by, right? Like this is just a tough break that didn't optimize for him. But But he was still the author of his fate in this instance. I think the fact that actually I thought was even the more crazy part,

the fact that Magny got out of that mounted triangle in the second round, but you should be dead to right. See, the mounted triangle, like Magnetons arm's arm stuck in there. I thought he was going to get arm bar, just get pounded out. And somehow he got out of that without taking too much damage. So, man, like. That wasn't even the best, that wasn't even the best like survival of submission of the night. Josias Musasa had the best.

Like he is legit. He is legit in like full on RNC, like not even trying to defend it at all. And he's just sitting there like breathing through it. Like it is tight. Everyone's like this fights over. This fights over. He's just like, I'm good.

And then popped right up. He was around my chin around my neck. It was like, it was so wonky. It was like, well, I can still breathe. I was crazy. I was like, this dude does not have allardics. It'll be okay. It felt nothing.

I don't even know how that's possible. And then he goes and wins the second round. It was winning the third until he got kicked in the ding ding. Yeah. Actually, oh, I think maybe the fight we're trying to compare it to, trying to think of another fight like this,

Robbie Lolliver versus Ben Ascran. Great. That's not the one I'm thinking about. I think, I know, I don't think of a different, but I think this is a similar one. Yeah.

That made me think if this, if that, if the referee didn't, stop that fight or tell them to release it at 4.59, say it was happening at three minutes or whatever. Then the fight's over. You can't reset that. But the fact that it happened at the very end of the round made it kind of, all right, the referee kind of lucked into that in a sense that the round ended. So, well, by default, now we have to reset them anyway. But if it was at any other point in the round, you can't reset it. Yeah. The one I'm thinking of, I just thought of, it's Drew Dover,

or Leandro Silva. When the referee legitimately was like, Drew Dober is unconscious and Drew Dover was like, I'm super not unconscious, what are you talking about? And they in fact, it was so egregious that they overturned. One of the rare overturns, yeah. Yeah, because it was just like he was very obviously

like thumbs upping and awake. And there was like, he's out. We're done here. I do feel like if this did happen like a different time and the fight was over, I think it would eventually have been reversed to a no contest no matter what have happened. Yeah.

Oh, I do think if that, if it had been stop, stopped, we would have gotten no contest out of it because it should have been. Neil Magnet was not unconscious. He was not out, yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I think there's too much else to say. Yeah. He's a dog. He is a dog. No,

there is something to say, Casey, because you have a take that you submitted into Slime. on a conversation we were having yesterday on the preview show. And you need to get that take off your chest. No, Magny, future UFC Hall of Famer.

He did it. Tonight was the night. Just for these comebacks, these freaking comebacks. He's just, he is a UFC Hall of Famer. He is not an MMA Hall of Famer at all, but UFC,

the promotion, not a first ballot, not a second ballot. The third ballot, I don't know. Like he might get in when he's like, 55. Like he retires. He doesn't go in like six months, six months later. No, he'll go in like four or five years later. But I feel like with all these crazy comebacks, there's, he's kind of one of a kind. So I think three wins. He's three wins away from the most wins ever. He is number two all time. Oh yeah. Yeah. Tell me, I'm right to. Today, today he is a hot of him. He's tied for number five with most fights all time. He'll be, he's going to be Jim Miller.

I think he's going to do it. I mean, he very does legitimately, we're talking about this. He has a chance to pass Jim Miller. I don't know how much longer Jim is going to keep fighting, but Magny, man, he could stick around another four years and fight three times a year. That's the thing. He could stick around another four years and fight three times a year and add another 10 fights and take it over. If he does, my stance remains unchanged.

If he does move into the top spot, then you reward the guy, right? Like any guy who gets the most of fights or wins, that guy gets to go in the Hall of Fame. If he does it, he is the exact Hall of Fame gatekeeper. And that's where he remains for me right now. He remains the exact gatekeeper to the Hall of Fame. I'm a pat myself. Better crew than you, Magnet? You're in the Hall of Fame.

Where's through the New Magnet? Get out of here. I'm a pat myself on the back. I called that exact finish. You did. You did. It was impressive. On the Q&A, I go back for the receipt during the picks at the very end.

I said Neil Magny is going to lose until he wins in round three. In case he even said, it's going to be like a Mike Belot thing. I said, not quite, but kind of similar. But he's going to get him in the third round after losing the first two. And I nailed it. He just added 13 minutes of fight time. He's currently number five. But you add that 13 minutes up, and he's now just 10 minutes behind Jim Miller at number four in total fight time.

Perhaps he's the fairy tale ending. Yeah. I think he's never going to take most in total fight time. That's just not achievable for him. But still, top five, pretty good. I know it's not, there's no direct comparison, but like, is he the, no mangy like, I don't know, Cal Ripkin of the UFC? I'm trying to think of a... No, Jim Miller is the Cowrubkin?

Is Jim Miller still a Ripkin? Okay. Jim Miller's definitely a Cowrupkin. All right, no one's going to take that for him. He is some other like iron name. Magi's Craig Vigio. He loves Craig Vigio. He's perfect.

Like, Vizio just show up hurt. I'll play. Like, that's who Dale Bagby is. Like, wasn't the best, but still found his way into the Hall of Fame after, you know, just just, just, just, I don't know baseball enough. In my mind, Cal Ripkin was also like an all-star outside of, you know, outside of the thing. But like, who is a guy who was maybe an all-star once, but never really like an all-star kind of guy, but just played 20 years in the majors? Because that's Neil Magny.

Yeah. Maybe made one or two all-star teams, but played 20 years. You Shea Hillenbrand. And it was never. I always everyone know exactly what I'm talking about. Dude, I actually, here's exactly who he is. Casey, you don't watch football so you won't know this. Okay.

He's Frank Gore. He is Frank Gore. Frank Gore played like 18 seasons in the end. He did. I know I know him as a boxer. I don't know him as it. But Frank Gore played like legitimately. Frank Gore is like top five in all these incredible running back statistical categories.

I honest to God don't know if he ever made a Pro Bowl even but he was just a running back which is the hardest job to be like on your body a player for 15 years and he played 15 freaking seasons yeah he's Frank Gore that's pretty good I was thinking Corey Dylan but I think Frank Gore is actually a better a better nod that's good I have I know I know I know You know, Frank Gore, the boxer. Yeah, MVP boxer. He's a guy who's a guy who's on Darren Williams. Who's another boxer and didn't play any other sports.

That's funny. Frank Gore played from 2005 to 2020, which is insane as a running back. Wow. Insane. I'm pretty confident in all our, and our preview show, fan Q&A in this show. We've talked about no Magny more than anyone else. The other fighter. He's a star.

Got to get the two of what they want. Clearly. All right. Let's get through these super chats. For the record, Dave Shaw thinks that Jake Matthews might have a case to have that overturned. I disagree. But apparently Dave Shaw said that.

I think Dave Shaw is kind of great, right? Super chat from WWA. You'll be missed Casey to me. this is the MA fighting trio. Best of luck going forward. I appreciate that. Thank you. I forgot for a second with all the Craig Bigeo, Frank Gore.

We're just partying. Shane Hill and Brand talk that Casey was leaving us. Partying. We're never going to talk about Frank Gore again together like this. I know. Look, I don't know that there's another every day podcast that's giving you Frank Gore content like we are. Yeah.

You're just not going to find it anywhere else. He's a great website five-time pro bowler by the way Frank Gore apparently I did not realize that Good for you Frank Undefeated MVP boxer Frank Gore

He does a 2 and O Thank you very much 2 and 0 He did I thought he lost the Darren Williams But he also That was an exhibition that he lost That's true Which Frank Gore made an exhibition

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CBC's Uncover is available now on Spotify. Daniel said the crowd was dead 80% full. Yeah, it was, it sounded. It certainly sounded dead. Yeah, they did not mic up the crowd of it. That's for sure. Yeah. Another one from Daniel.

Shout out JDM to hundreds of photos with fans. That's awesome. Good for the champ. Dude, that's how you do it. You got to put that shoe leather down. That's how you build your start them. super chat from chase what's more likely

Reyes is really that good for the John fight or John truly wasn't motivated for that fight I think it's I would go as Jed likes say a little of column A, a little of column B. I mostly think it's the John thing but I also think that that's literally

the reason I say all the time that defending titles is what matters in the sport because it's hard to be motivated Like every, almost every champion who had a long title reign and then lost, mostly there's at least some piece or it was like, hey, man, I've been champ for six years, lost the edge or whatever. Shit, like, miracle. The famous miracle story is actually like all the professional Russian hockey players are like, we were kind of burnt out and this sort of sucked. And it was even kind of cool for those U.S. college kids to beat us. like we'd been doing this forever.

It's part of the game. And so I mostly would attribute it to like a failing on John's part. But I do think it would be remiss to be like, you just have to not recognize the end of John Jones's light heavyweight career was really bad. Like he kept winning barely. And Dominic Gray should have beaten him. I'll go to my deathbed thinking that Dominic Gray has won that fight cleanly

and was robbed by the judges of a very important historical landmark in the sport, which is tough. John. But please go, Casey. Oh, no, no. From my memory, I think most of us had it three to, Dom, with the first three rounds going to Reyes, which kind of goes into what we were saying about John not being motivated. John, like, after 15 minutes, like, oh, crap, I have to, like, fight. And then he winds up winning the last two rounds.

But he had already given up such a big lead. Didn't matter at that point. So I think that's, yeah, I'm sorry. I know. I will just say the one good thing about the judge is getting that wrong is it has now eternally let me put John Jones defenders in an impossible situation. Like, he's never lost. I actually did. There's a loss of his record.

That doesn't count. Okay. Well, Dom Reyes. Well, no, no, but that one doesn't count either. Okay. So you got one or the other man. Either we all know what we saw with our eyes and John did in fact. beat the deaf dude who's name

I can't remember right now. Matt, Matt Hamill. Yeah, it did in fact beat Matt Hamill but also definitely lost the Dom Reyes or he beat Dom Reyes and he lost to Matt Hamill because that's what's on the score sheets.

And so that gives me some happiness at least. John Anick, when you bring up the Dom Reyes fight to John Anick, John Anick will be like I actually think the Tiago Santos one was more of a robbery. I've rewatched the Tiago Santos ones enough to

I still think Tiago won that fight. I totally get Tiago not winning that fight. It is way sadder that John didn't win that fight, though, because Tiago did not have working knees. And John, I still just wasn't fighting a guy who could not move. Was getting hit a lot by a guy who could not move. Yeah. I think that is the most worst one for him,

even though I think he's better argument than winning it. Yeah, at night of the fight, I did score that fight for Santos, too. So I 100% scored for Santos, it's not a fight. Somebody in the chat said Gustafs, he didn't beat Gus. I don't know. I mean, I mean, he beat Gus. Yeah, he beat Gus. Yeah, it was a great fight.

For sure. Like, Gus was beating him, and then the spinning back elbow literally won him the fight and credit to him. Like, that's championship shit right there. Gus did not beat him. Gus just made him bleed. Who's better at their prime? Dominic Reyes or Gusisten?

Gusterson. No question in my mind. Just asking, just wondering. It's probably Gus. It's probably Gus. Yeah. Yeah. They never fought, correct?

They never fought, right? I'm not forgetting. No. No. They were kind of slightly kind of, they missed their kind of times. I think Dom was like more, overall skilled, I guess.

Like if you put like skill set by skill set, but I think Gus just fought better dudes. Gus has way better wins. Yeah, his resume is just sharper. But I think if like, I don't know, that actually would be like really like. Like Gus dummy Glover before Glover won the belt. Like,

Gus had a really bad end to his career, which I think was tough. I'm not entirely sure why it ended so badly, but like it did. But Gus, Gus had a very strange career because nobody took him seriously. The John Jones fight was a laugh. And then he almost beat John. And then it was like, oh, he's actually really good. And then his career ended it like shit.

Anthony Johnson murders him, but then he gets a title fight. And then comes this close to beating. He kind of gives D.C. one of his best fights ever, too. Don't forget the D.C. fight too. Yeah. Very almost, very, very. razor close loss of Daniel Cormier. Yeah.

He had some spectacular losses, both just in fights that he lost and just like, wow, he got blown up really bad. Yeah, I never really, I never really kind of put them together, but they had very similar, but very different kind of careers, you know, very... Honestly God, Dom Reyes is kind of the next generation

to Gustafson. Yeah, I guess so. Kind of the same dude. just one generation later. Thank you, Chase. I'm not sure what this is about. Why am I in timeout? Chad, up, kick, ref, stand up.

Chaz got put in timeout because he used a word that we don't use it here. Oh, okay. I put jazz in time out for five minutes. All right. The monique up kick ref stand up, though, I believe is a separate question, which is shout out to Steve Percival

for correctly taking a point. Um, tis, Tis Steve Percival for standing the fight up after you took the point for the illegal upkick instead of giving position back. Not really sure what you're doing there. Okay. Actually, I didn't watch the Carolina Fides. I wasn't sure.

Okay, cool. A couple more super chatties. The most blatant upkick you've ever seen. Like this woman is just full knees on top of her and catches one right to the dome piece. And Steve Percival, correct, it was like, that was. was pretty egregious. We're going to take a point. But then the fight restarted on the feet.

Didn't end up mattering. Monagieu hit like a low ankle pick a minute later, but it's still dumb. Just book Neil Magny's the curtain jerker for 400. Honestly, yeah. Sure. Put him on. Let him carry the Miller mantle. Yep.

And, uh, too. I just can't imagine Jim's going to actually make it. long. Hope he does. That'd be great. Oh, yeah. It's because we're at 320. 321. 3.21. We don't really know how numbered events are going to be coming next year. Is it going be once a month? Or is it going to be once a month? I think it'll be once a month probably, but we'll see. I think it's going to be similar. We might have like a two months that have like two. I think we're going to get 12 to 14 a year. Yeah. I think it's going to be the same.

That means we're still five years away from 400. That's a long. time for Jim. That's even a long time for Magni, though possible. We need our next. Who's going to be our next Jim Miller, Neil Magne? Kevin Holland. You know,

that's not a bad choice. Yeah, right now, Angela Hill is kind of the female. I mean, Angela Hill is 100% bad. Yeah, she's definitely the women's, Kevin Holland's going to have more fights than both of them. I think so.

Probably, unless he gets burnt out and just cashes. he fights like every two to three months like clockwork you looked really bad last time out though I'm hopeful they'll get that together my fight of the year and I don't regret it he remains my fight of the year it's the funniest fight of the year it's my final year I have not had more fun watching a fight than that fight

this year it's my fight of the year that route was incredible it is a spiritual successor to Kim Bodada and I love that fight so much All right. And we kind of already answered this, I think. Yeah, we did. All right, what else we got here before we get out of here?

Let's talk about me a little bit, I guess. Let's talk about Casey. Casey, talk about Casey. Thank you, A. Z. Ray videos. Love you, E. Casey. Thanks for the memories. I'll read these out. Carlos Casares, Casey's cutoff teas will be missed.

No, they're not. I'm going to start going sleeveless. Are you going to get rid that tan line? Are you going to go? No, no, no. We're going to rock the tan line. Okay, I'm proud of you. I got them too.

We got the golf team. Dude, it's so bad. Mike, have you ever got the hat tan? Like the little. Oh, my God. I have it right now. I have it literally right now. You have the little triangle,

a little kind of half circle on the back on your scalp. And I can never tell. Like when I look at my face, like you can't tell. Like I have like the sunglasses tan that happens. But I played golf with my kid the other day. And I went to the gym the other day. They're like,

wow, how did you do that? And I was like what? Because a perfectly round like white spot around your head. And the rest is like golden brown. And I'm like, that's the golf tan. So yeah.

All right. stage green damn is Casey actually leaving love this guy sorry I'm a son of a bitch I am a son of a bitch Andrew Kelly Casey I love you forever

the legend with the best hardcore punk presence in MMA that means a lot to me sir thank you that's everything right there that's everything that's everything to me Is there are there a lot of people fighting for that title or I don't think of a lot of other people

with a hardcore punk presence No one wants to challenge them I guess maybe that's it Maybe it's like yeah man We know our role Yeah Bronstadter a little bit He kind of

He buttons it Yeah I had no idea if Broncstetter got down like that Yeah he gets down like that a little bit I think he's kind of moved on He's like a family man now But Yeah

I'm family man and like hardcore Yeah I did one of like the sub radios the Sunday morning shows and Aaron was on with me and Aaron like shared his playlist was before UFC 319 of like what he's gonna listen to

on his way to Chicago and I was like blown away by his playlist and it was just all over the friggin place some punk stuff Wesley Willis was on there if you know Wesley Willis on there I was like Wesley freaking Willis

I was so proud that I got to share the same space with that man when I saw Wesley Willis on the playlist What do you think? He's like, he's thinking about McDonald's? What was it, Wesley? Yeah. I can't remember the details, but yeah, I know that name.

I know that name for sure. Wesley, Wesley Willis is just, if you've never heard a Wesley Willis song, go listen to it. It's freaking, I highly recommend the critically acclaimed hit, I Whooped Batman's Ass. And at the end of, your song. Yeah. And at the end of every song, it's like rock on Chicago. and then he does like a trademark line like Wheaties, Breakfast of Champions.

That's like he does that with every with everything. So yeah, he does a McDonald's song. He has songs about everything. It's just, it's on like a bullshit like 99 cent Cassio keyboard. Yeah, yeah, it's just so ridiculous.

But he's the late Great Westwoods. I'm just going to throw these up here. Can't read them all. Cody Ray. Thank you very much. Ray, Professor Genki, thank you so much. Firefly Fun House. Thank you.

Carlos Casares. Thank you so much. And Yafet. Oh, no. Thank you. Oh, no. Oh, no. I've lost the spider.

It was the West. No, I've lost him. I don't know where he is. What's that behind you, though? It could be anything. I'm not going to turn around. If I can't see it, it's not real. Yes, Wesley Willis'

McDonald's song It's called Rock and Roll McDonald's You're looking for something Rock and roll McDonald's Rock and roll McDonald's It's an outrageous It's so good And one last one before we get out of here

Because we got things to do Casey's surprised BTL appearance Is going to be electric It's going to happen It's going to happen I don't know We'll have to go We'll have to find it

You know We'll have to make it happen Yeah, yeah. I'm very busy. Very busy. You're a very busy man. You're eating a chiro, honey-nut churias and checks. Yeah.

As a combination. Delicious. Delicious. Delicious. As soon as I... Yeah, it's good. Yeah. That was a good Q&A.

Learned a lot about Casey doing things. Things I'd never known and happens to be on the last day. So any final words, Casey, before we sign off here. Man, this is... This is weird. This is weird. It's been 15 years from me fighting. Crap, man.

I don't know, man. Just thanks a lot, guys. Mike, Jed, everyone at the rest of our staff around the country. Man, I'm still going to be around. Just doing some different stuff. You'll find out soon. Oh, yeah, Gwee, yeah. I mentioned he's, yeah.

Gui. Thank you. I got a voice. Damn. Hey, it's Glee. I hate that guy. I didn't mention him for, I didn't mention him on reason for a reason.

This Mike picks up too much. No, dude, it's just, man, it's been, it's been a ride. And, but, uh, just, an opportunity came up and yeah just I don't know I really appreciate you all the I appreciate everyone really being just super just being like people online in the comments and not just you know you're a freaking idiot you can't be like I won and just actually kind of just talking to me like I'm a

person now and I appreciate that a lot and I know I've always loved my time in my fighting it's been I kind of just fell into this whole job, this whole MMA world. I don't know, I don't know how it happened. I just kind of, they just kept asking me back because I kept showing up. And 15 years later, here I am still talking about it. So, man, yeah, just you guys are great. Mike Judd, everyone's, you guys are freaking awesome. And I don't know, it feels weird.

It's weird. and I don't know I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna miss my time here but I would not I would not miss watching every single freaking fight night

I was together well I'll be I'll be a magnia of MMA media KCY line just always there just running up records Hall of Famer in my book first ballot right here

right here just just right there. Big speech coming, the gold jacket, the whole night. You're the man. I've learned a lot from you. And you will be missed, my man. You will be missed. Doing these shows, the intros, everything you brought to the table. Your vision, you and I shared a lot of good visionary things over the years. And lest you forget, the greatest moment in the history of the M.A. Fighting Slack Channel when Casey whooped that ass in the case. Fuck you, Fritz.

Fuck you. Hit the music. 30, 24. I got a question for you, Fritz. How do we like our martial arts? We like a mix. And for one last time, here we go. This just hits real different right now.

I don't know if I should dance. Is our music leaving with Casey? No. I still here, but. No. Oh, no. There are certain things. There are certain things out of respect that we will let Casey leave with.

But Beachcomer, Beach Coal is coming with us, maybe. Beach Comber's coming with us. They told me, corporate told me, the Emily fans, they don't want this song, but I was like, no, no, they want, they need this. They need this every time. Yeah, people said, we don't want Casey screaming at the beginning of the shows.

You know what I said, fuckus. Fuckus, I tell you. And the screams just got louder and louder and louder. And yeah, we'll try to match that energy moving forward. But the good news is while Casey's leaving, he's leaving out a very busy freaking week. KFC, PFL, and UFC 320 with ticks, absolute ass. Watch party is back next Saturday. It's going to be a fun week for Jed Bishu.

I am Mike Hacken for the final time. That is the legend. and me, Casey Lydden, appreciate you watching. We love you, Casey. We love you all. Good night, everybody. Love you, Casey. I love you, Casey.

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