MMA Fighting - UFC Qatar Post-Fight Show | Reaction To Arman Tsarukyan Destroying Dan Hooker, Calling Out Ilia Topuria

Episode Date: November 22, 2025

Arman Tsarukyan sent a message to lightweight champion Ilia Topuria in the main event of UFC Qatar, and then sent another in his post-fight interview. After dispatching Dan Hooker in dominant fashion, is Tsarukyan the guy that faces Topuria in his first title defense? Following Saturday's UFC Fight Night event in Doha, MMA Fighting's Mike Heck and Jed Meshew react to the eventful card, Tsarukyan's incredible performance against Hooker, and if he should be next for Topuria over Paddy Pimblett. Additionally, they discuss Ian Machado Garry's decision win over Belal Muhammad in the co-main event and what the victory does in the Islam Makhachev conversation, the standout, bonus-winning performances from Waldo Cortes-Acosta and Kyoji Horiguchi, and much more. Follow Mike Heck: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@m_heckjr⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow Jed Meshew: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@JedKMeshew⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Subscribe:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ http://goo.gl/dYpsgH⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Check out our full video catalog: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://goo.gl/u8VvLi⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Visit our playlists:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ http://goo.gl/eFhsvM⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Like MMAF on Facebook: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://goo.gl/uhdg7Z⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow on Twitter: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://goo.gl/nOATUI⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Read More: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://www.mmafighting.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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gets a submission in round two, Dan Hooker wearing the damage in a big way. And Armin wants a title shot, but he is not the only one who wants. wants a title shot. A victory drums also sound for Ian Machado Gary, who defeats Bala Muhammad in the co-main event. We'll discuss those two fights. We'll discuss everything that happened at UFC Guitar from a news and notes standpoint. But I'm Mike Heck, great to be here with all of you. And joining me to give his thoughts, his takes, his reactions to all things UFC guitar. He is the hot take kid, Mr. Nograer himself from M.AFighting.com. Jed Bishu who has the message on the board loud and clear and I'm sure we'll talk a lot about that.

Jed, how are you, sir? I'm good. I wasn't technically working for most of the fights, but I got on after I missed the first two and then joined in, which was, I think, brilliantly timed on my part, frankly. And the fights were good this morning. I'm covering boxing right now. So if I get distracted at various points, that'll be why. though the big boxing matches won't happen

till well after this post show is done but look I gave you C guitar seven fights above replacement coming in I feel like that's we got that right like there were highs there were lows there was meaningful stuff happening there were frustrating things happening both for good and poor reasons

I felt like I was taking crazy pills at various points in the evening I mean the full range of emotions Mike, it was a very good card. And for all the East Coasters, it's 4 o'clock. So like, you guys have your Saturday. I don't. I got boxing to deal with.

But the rest of you, once we wrap this up, you have a wonderful evening with your families and friends. Like, this is as good as we can ask for. Yeah, it was a, it was a very good card. I enjoyed it. We had it all. It had a main event with heavy stakes that ended in a big way. It was emphatic.

We had a cold main event with very big stakes. We had a lot of ranked dudes. We had some weird matchups. We had Kiyoji Horaguchi doing the damn thing. We'll talk about that as well. And we had some good moments on the prelims. Luke Riley, you know, maybe he had some octagon jitters early on, but he lived up to a lot of the hype.

We had some last minute heroics. And we had some heavyweighty heavyweight fights. It was everything we could have asked for. Plus, Waldo Cortez Acosta might just be the hero to us all after what he did. He's a hero to you. He ain't the hero of me. um great performance from him but uh if you'd have given me 10 guesses in the fantasy league who was going to be MVP wCA would not have been the call um and you know frankly he was

maybe maybe he lobbied for another fight i don't think they're actually going to give it to him oh they should i mean it would be kind of fun to do but the problem is like if i think they would give it to him if he wasn't number six in the world because then like yeah you can just throw him against anybody but they're not going to throw him against you know like random guy uh and so i don't think he'll end up getting it uh but you know i think we haven't got bonuses yet at least not to my knowledge i think you're looking at another 250 coming in from that mic and that should put you in second place after this evening and you were the closest person literally last week when i did an update i was like you were the you were the guy who was most likely to just be

dead in the water and suddenly you're in the mix again it's great crazy god if i can get like atyba goatee to like sneak on a card before the end of the year and then you get wca on that december 13th card we are so live to win this whole entire you took the wrong to poria brother is the problem if you took the other teporea brother you'd be in great shape right now the problem is like now when we do our next draft and i have to keep two people i have no clue who i'm going to keep like it is i have an embarrassment of riches honestly Everybody has that, though. Like, that's why it'll be fun.

Toporia, Kayla, Moves-Zar. It's a very competitive season. Everybody is still very much, everybody has people left to go and still can win, which is pretty crazy. Yes. Well, let's talk about what we saw in the main event, Ed.

Armand Serrubian goes in there and just kind of mops the floor with Dan Hooker. He closes a minus 750 betting favorite, according to Fan Duel. He looked great in the first round. He had Dan in big trouble. Dan's face looked worse for wear Sitting on the stool but still a smile in his face and and that's what's great about a guy like Dan Hooker He doesn't have an F to give he'll go out there and just and and just fight

Doesn't matter if he's gonna lose he'll just go in there and have a good time and It probably wasn't a good time honestly because he just got kind of dummied in there by arm and serukia Which happens to most guys that he fights But look man I understand that there's a heavy presence for Patty Pimblit and everyone understands like that's a big fight to make it if you're going over to Paramount you want to start the splash you want to get Ili in there you want to get Patty in there you want to do all these things but come on man like arm is ready to go in January like you got to give him the title shot after this performance he did exactly what

he needed to do he didn't even break a sweat he got caught to gilly and had some sick transitions out of two of them and then went on got the finish and Dan hooker at a tap like just give this man a friggin title shot what are we doing here uh so while i agree with you in spirit let me make the argument um because i think there's actually a really good argument not to do it and it's not an argument that people are going to love i recognize that and i do want to be very clear it's on the board the fight that should happen the best fight at lightweight is illi tabori versus armen's ruchin i've said this before and people got very upset with me and I get why.

This is not a take that I have because it's Ilya. It's a take that I've had across multiple weight classes for multiple years. It's hard for me to be like, oh, you're definitely the best lightweight in the world when you don't beat the best guy, right? Like you did, Ilya did not beat the lightweight champion and he didn't beat the number one contender.

So he, like there is to me an asterisk on his lightweight title win. The way to get rid of it is to beat the number one guy that's Armand Sarukin. right like that that is the way to clear it same with bulk beating deigo lopez i you you came back and won the belts you aren't didn't beat the top guy remaining in the weight class uh frankly john jones beating serial gone same thing like he needs to have that fight i think that that fight now is so sellable it's such an obvious fight to make because i don't think anyone's leaving this event being like yeah they shouldn't do that the only person

leaving right now saying that is Ilya Tuporio because he should not try to fight Armand Suruki and if he can avoid it I frankly suspect he will announce they will announce the Patty fight very soon because whatever the hold up is it's going to magically go away

and I think that that's okay Mike because hear me out yes Armand absolutely no question about it deserves that title fight over Patty I don't want to see Armand turn around on you know seven weeks notice that I'm not into that.

I want these two dudes at the peak of their powers. And Ilya fighting Patty doesn't remove that, especially when you factor in that, like, I know that it is not known. But there is at least an idea that Armand, the reason Armin had issues and was forced out of 311 was at least associated with the weight cut because of the timeline that it happened.

I don't want to see him turn around in seven weeks to force that issue. I would rather see those two dudes fight next summer And Ilya fight Patty in January He's probably going to be Patty I think everybody believes he will be It will be the same fight We've said from the jump A big massive fight that gets Ilya over

To elevate his stardom And then you match up the two best guys In the weight class You build to it As opposed to let's just make this happen now Because we want to fit the timelines I never really liked Like fights that are just feel forced

Because of the timeline issue I want Armand Suruk and Ilya to get a media run to have a three month built you know that's how i would like it to go down so if i had the power of the pen i'd still book patty in january but not because he deserves it but because i think the timing just works better so my my thought behind even just booking this fight between sirruki and hooker was okay i think the ufc is going to wait and see what happens because it's clear they're not like big fans of arm of armand especially after the headbut yesterday like he did not do himself any favors there of course he goes in there and performs

the way he did so it's great um in their eyes maybe they're looking at it as boy arm armes are really tough fight for ilia but if we throw them in there on like seven weeks notice and we kind of give him the hey take it or leave it when the phone rings you got to say yes wouldn't shock me if the UFC tried to play that card. And that was kind of like my thought process in all of this. I absolutely agree with you. Yeah. So, I mean, and I think Armand knows that too.

I think he knows that too, that he's just got to be ready if they call. Because if they call him, like, if he's talking to Hunter Campbell right now and Hunter's like, look, man, if you want the title fight, you got to do it in January. Like, do you want it or not? If not, we're giving it to Patty. If he says no, like he's. He's in so much trouble. He's definitely you have to fight again, if not twice. And Dane is just going to do that whole thing of, you know, he said no.

We gave him a title shot and he said no. So I'm concerned about that. So none of what you said is wrong. We're really clear. And maybe that's what happens. I don't know, right? Like, we saw Drickas Dupus C do this, right? Where he was like, I'm not going to turn around and fight Izzy on seven weeks.

I'm not doing that. I'm the number one contender. I just beat this dude. I'm clearly it. I'm not doing that. And there was an idea that he was going to get punished and he didn't really.

Sean Strickland got the title fight because he said no. And then DDP got to fight Sean Strickland. Like, Armin is less liked than DDP was, but they weren't huge fans of it either. I think Armin just so clearly is the dude. If you're a fan,

I'm not saying that it won't happen. If that is how it breaks down, that will suck. Because if you're a fan of, fighting, you shouldn't want to see Armin Suruki and make a seven-week turnout to fight Ilya. You shouldn't want that. You should want these two dudes to come and peak of their powers because, frankly, I think there's a really good chance Armin can beat him. And like, I just, I want to see them fight at their best, not, well, we're, we are slaves to the timeline

here. And so put, you know, tell Armin, hey man, you're next. You, you're not next next next, but you're next we you can if you want weigh in as the backup fighter for ilia versus patty those two dudes fight it is functionally the hey we're hey marab sorry man uh we're gonna let shana malley fight chito vera thing you do that he can weigh in as the backup if he wants to and you know can physically make the weight he gets to sick cage side there's no ifs ands and butts about it you've got two obvious fights to make make them sucks to be just ingechy any chance you had has died that's just you're cook now uh if you retire i'll understand i'll be sad about it i hope you don't and you fight bin wasandini that would rock uh but you're the loser of the evening for

sure i want to see a lia tepuri and armin suruki in fight if i have to see them fight you know potentially compromised armin okay i would just it would be way cooler if there was a little bit of justice in this sport and they got to fight, you know, full bars. What if they just said, you know what? Because again, we don't have a fight announced for January yet. We don't know what that main event's going to be. So if they haven't locked anything down, what if they just went to Armin in like March?

Someone actually just put this in the in the comments too. I got no, if that's what they do, no issues at all. I have just been so certain that the first thing they were going to do in Paramount was ilia because one of the biggest stars and ili patty makes all the sense but if that's not what happens and they say if that's not what happens then there's no excuse for it not to be armin next if it's february if it's march whenever it is if they're not going to have them fight in january um and then that would rock like that would be great and you you know january you have to call alex perera that's just the you got to go to that well because hamzah can't do it nobody

else really can do it. You could hope Mara beats Peter Yan and is it still a crazy person and just wants to fight the next month, but that's fine too. If that's how they want to go, I'd have no issues because I absolutely want to. I want to see Ilya fight Patty because I think I'll learn some stuff. I strongly anticipate I'll win that fight, but I just, I feel like I would get to learn a few things. I want to see Ilya fight Armin because I believe Armin has the most credible claim to

being the best lightweight on Earth right now. And Ilya, you know, is the featherweight champion who just knocked out a former lightweight champion. Like I those two dudes need to fist fight. If that happens in March, terrific. I'm super on board. That is, it's in my top. Like, I have there five fights that are the five fights I want to see the most. That is absolutely one of them.

Yep. I'm in there. That replaces Armand versus Islam, or Islam, which we can't get now. Unfortunately, the rematch after what happened in January and Islam obviously moving up. I'll tell you, my other. concern. My other concern is Ilya goes out there and rinses Patty and he's just like, I'm done. I want to fight

Islam. I'll drop the belt and move up to 170. I don't think they'll let him. You don't think so? No. Because if the because everyone knows what the paddy fight is nobody on God's earth other than Patty Pimble will be like that is like that's legit. Everyone be like

yeah, Armand's the number one guy. This is a fine win but no, I don't think they'll let him. And they shouldn't like No. I am so sorry. Let it go. Everyone alive. Let it go. Ilya Tuporio versus Islamakchev's not happening. It shouldn't happen. At lightweight, it was at least kind of interesting, even if I always thought Islam was going to win that fight comprehensively. It's not interesting whatsoever at Welterweight. Let it go. Sometimes the things you want aren't meant to be. And that dream can happen if Ilya puts together a legitimate lightweight title run. But he hasn't. He doesn't get to do the featherweight thing where he defends once. and then moves. Nope. You got dudes.

He is not allowed to move up until he beats Armin Sarukin. If he beats Armin, he still shouldn't be able to do it, but at least maybe you could sell that. But if he waxes Patty, they're going to be like, no. Snow, sit down. You're 5'7. You're not a well-to-wait. Really tough die for Justin Gaci, as you said.

A horrible life from him. It could not have gone worse for him. Dan Hooker-win would have changed some things, but even at least Hooker would have been like, yeah, I'll just fight for the B. MF belt. I don't need to get in the way of the actual world title. Not his thing. He'd rather fight for the BMF belt anyways. But now Arma just goes in there and just did what he did today. So Gachi is in big trouble. And we'll see if he gets back in there. We'll see what the UFC does with this division. This is for me to you, Justin Gichi. I understand. If you retire, that's okay, buddy. Like I get it. You had a great career and I won't be sad that you're not taking any more damage. Just fight him Lassandini. Just fight him. That's the thing. That's the thing. That's the thing. just do that give do one just do one for the people just that one fight for the people he did one for the people he gave us the the max holloway fight that we all wanted for a decade yeah i know

and then now he'd do it again like you just do it again do it for the people again and if you be bin was underneath i think they'll let you fight for the title again so just do it it would be the best i need that i need that fight i need that fight in my veins and i don't think it's going to happen And I'm sad that that's not going to happen. Yeah, pretty, just a great performance. He just beat the hell out of Dan Hooker. And we'll see what happens with Arm and Sarukin. I loved his post-fight interview.

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And this was sort of the exclamation point, the capping stone, the cherry on top of the Who Did It Best Sunday at 170 pounds or Saturday, excuse me, and we had everything that happened at UFC 322 with Carlos Pratchez and then Michael Morales just steamrolling Sean Brady, but it all came down to this one. Ian Machado Gary versus Bilal Muhammad.

If Ian Machado Gary beats Bilal Muhammad, who just lost the belt, was ranked number one. If he did so in a big way, could he jump everybody? Could he get his Lamachachev? And he goes in there and sweeps two of the cards, 29, 20, and the other, M.A fighting's official score of that fight was 30, 27 for Ian Machado, Gary.

And I'm confident with that score. It was closer. It wasn't like a 3027 where Ian just outclassed him the entire time. It was a competitive fight, but Ian just had bigger moments. So I thought he won all three rounds. And then he gets on the mic. And I'll talk about what he had to say when we do the mic check. but Jed, I was on the Slack.

I was following along as I was live blogging. I could see the notifications Slack pop up. You weren't loving what was happening. And then Ian Machado Gary got a microphone in his hand and it didn't seem like you liked more of it. So Jed waxed poetically on the future, Ian Machado, Gary, what he accomplished tonight. He sucked so hard, man. When people originally came out and hated Ian Machado, Gary, I didn't. because they hated him for very stupid reason.

Like, hating him because of his marital situation is very stupid. And so I just didn't truck with that. I was like, I don't know, he's pretty good at fighting. And honestly, actually seems fairly adult about a lot of these things. I don't have any issues with that. But he, I don't know how people like him. He sucks. He's a perfectly solid fighter.

We knew how that fight was going. One, I actually, if I got to score justly and appropriately, I think my official actual scorecard would have been 29, 28, Gary there should have had two points taken away from him so it actually should have been 2027 Ballal in my humble opinion but like that fight was just

fine like that's a good solid win that he cheated aggressively in which is dope we gotta talk about that second I poke because that was wild Mike dude the thing that bothers me the most with fighters like the most with fighters

and people listen to our content will almost certainly know this just don't lie to me man like don't don't lie to me the thing I respect about Armand Sarukian like he's got his own issues

I'm not saying I love Armand Sarukin or whatever but like when people are like yeah Armand you're an entitled rich boy is like yep sure am oh no like I I F with that you know whereas Ian talks the whole world of shit

if this guy's He thinks he's Canelo hands If he stands with me for five minutes I'm knocking him out I promise you Ian how come you didn't finish him Well he was looking for a way out and I could He kept walking forward the whole fight He did not run away from you

You could knock him out because you don't try to knock people out man Like just at least be honest about it And then the like that promo in a vacuum is decent Right I'm not I'm not insane Because he's hitting on some points that are interesting. The problem is it all rings hollow when he's the guy delivering it. Oh, you know, Balal couldn't take me down.

You won't either. Yeah, Bal couldn't take Jack down. How'd that go for him? Are we talking about Jack Delamatta Alana, the wealth away? No, that didn't truck for shit. I'm the best Waltway in the world. There's a dude sitting 15 feet behind you who beat you less than a year ago. Like, it's, dude, like you can't.

If Armand Surukian had made that, like, that call out, okay, because that's the performance that does it. Like, all right, he just trucked this dude. But like a win that no one will remember or ever think about again, that was like safety first to the utmost. It's just like when everybody else, to your point, Mike, everybody else is doing cooler shit. Everybody else is doing cooler shit than you right now. And it's not like maybe you can make the argument if you are undefined, defeated and have beaten everybody and you're like okay I just deserve it because I've beaten everybody but you didn't you lost to a guy who's done a lot cooler shit than you have like

I need him to just be different be a different person because he is I don't I honest to God don't believe in the history of the sport there has been a bigger gulf between how good somebody thinks they are at talking and how bad they actually are like people say belal i think belal knows that he's not good at talking but that he just keeps doing it eymichael gary clearly thinks that he's the best fighter of all time despite clear evidence that he is not and that he's unbelievable on the mic despite clear evidence that he's not like i do dude he is soared up my list of people i dislike in the sport very good fighter i will never say he's not very good

he is fifth in line for the title as far as i'm concerned right now Fifth. Wow. I mean, I just, I pulled the number out, but Shavkat and Morales, a billion percent above him. I don't think there's a credible argument that they're not above him, frankly. I mean, he should be above Carlos Protest in any reasonable circumstance. So I guess he's above protest. He definitely is behind Usman.

He shouldn't be. Like, I'm not crazy enough to say that he shouldn't be, but he's behind Usman. And like, shit, I'd rather see Sean Brady. Islam, then that dude fight Islam. That dude's just, oh, he's just, when was the last time you had, like, fun? That fight wasn't bad. Not here to say it was awful. But, like, for as much as he

talks to consistently just deliver a poor experience, you'd think at some point he'd just shut the fuck up. It's like, it is genuinely the Sean Strickland gimmick of, I'm going to fight to the death, I'm going to kill this man, here comes the jabs, and for, for Ian, it's

the, you know, stepping kicks to the knee or whatever, like, cool, like, you're winning fights. Stop lying to me about what you're going to do and how good you are until you do it. So, you think Ian Garrish should get the title fight? Not remotely. I know that people don't agree with this,

that this is a mounting hot, I don't think it's a hot take, it's a warm take. I think Shavcott's getting it. I think that Today was a great day for Shafcott. I think it was a great day for Shafkat. I think it was a great day for Shafkat. And I think it was a pretty good day for Usman, too, which. Yeah.

There's no bad days for Usman. He just sort of exists permanently in the mix. Yeah. I was wondering. I was wondering what he was going to say after the Gary fight. He just did a couple of like yawning, yawning sleeping emojis. Didn't have much to say.

You know what? Let's just do this, Jed. Let's just do it. Yeah. It's mic check time, ladies of gentlemen. Let's just get right into it. Let us grade the post-fight interviews for some of these fighters. We'll start with, we'll start with Armin Suruki and Jed. And I want to give you an opportunity to chime in here as well, because he goes in there, does the thing. He did headbutton Dan Hooker at the way in yesterday. And I thought it was. was kind of surprising, honestly, that him and Dan Hooker touched gloves when Mark Goddard

gave the final instructions, but they did. And then he puts over Dan Hooker in a big way as a tough guy, as the only guy in the division who would take a fight against him. And then he calls for the title fight. And rightfully so. And he does that. And he said he'll do it in January, which, you know, we kind of discussed that. And I'm fine with that. Like, he's just like, all right, no excuses. If they want me to do it in January, I'll fight this dude in January. liked everything he had to say put over the people that were in the crowd that supported him his family and friends

by one knock on on poor Armand Saruki and was calling for the face off with Ilya Tuporia because Ilya wasn't in the damn building his brother fought on the frigging prelimbs he's probably out celebrating in Doha with him so there's just no chance I was in the building there's no chance that face off

was going to happen so I will give it a B because everything was good it was a little slip up with the calling for the face off but might as well just shoot your shot but it could have been higher if he if he didn't do that the Machado Gary one Jed

and I'll bring you on for this one I'm sorry John Anick is sometimes John Anick really just he has takes we're talking straight meritocracy based on what Ian Machado Gary has done he should be next for the welterweight champ is Lamakachev

we shall see certainly took care of business tonight no he lost there is an undefeated guy who beat him like this is it this is not an opinion thing like the argument of meritocracy one dude beat the other and hasn't lost since beating him yes ian has since one fights did he beat any guys who beat the guy who beat him nope then no this is pecking order it's not hard you can say because for whatever other reason you can't say it's meritocracy that that's just not true the statement can be he's fighting and

Chavcott hasn't fought in a year. That's a stupid reason because the year's not that long. Like that that's a dumb reason. A year is not a long time to be like, oh, he can't even fought. No. And also, again, good solid wins. He didn't, if he had blown them out, like if he had nuked ball and nuked protest, okay. He won competent, very like rock solid, good decision wins.

Meritocracy ain't the word. That's just not right. it's other reasons it ain't merit merit is shavkat what are we doing it's it's hard to disagree with with that take if we're talking about like strictly merit uh shavkat had lost okay he hasn't he has not lost to anybody and he beat the guy who's there like this i don't i don't get it i do not get it uh as far as i actually liked the end's performance i mean again this wasn't he didn't blow the doors off bala but strictly from like a game plan standpoint i i liked what he did i love the the oblique kicks the kicks of the leg uh i loved a lot of that

stuff there's such a weapon early in that fight belal again much like the jdm much like the jdm fight he waited way too long to try to grapple in this fight and by the time he made the decision to grapple his leg was already chewed up and he couldn't get in down anyways so i've done the performance was fine. It's not easy to look good against Bala Muhammad. It just isn't. And Ian, I thought won all three rounds, although it was pretty competitive. And I'll talk his post-fight interview, the Islam stuff, I actually liked it. Like, it was good. He didn't stumble. I thought he hit all the points. And it was, it was solid. He needs to trim like 10 to 15 seconds off of like every sentence he says. And I think it's going to help him in the long run. What really,

really downgrades this grade to a C for me, for me and Gary, was the backhanded compliment. Because Ian, like, he gets the mic and he puts over Balal as being this, like, super tough guy. There's a reason why this guy was the champion of the world. There's a reason why this guy hasn't been finished in nine years. There's a reason why he's the number one ranked fighter in the UFC. And then he says, he was looking for excuses to get out of there, but he's just a tough guy. What do you? Why? Like, the backhanded compliment was just like, you ruined. everything with that. And from there, like, even with the promo at the end, like, it, it soiled it for me.

It soiled it for me with the backhanded compliment. I did not like it. So it's a sea. It's a he's bad at talking. He didn't, he was looking for reasons to get out of you. He, look, I do not believe that being the fighter advancing is proof that you're winning the fight. If you're looking for reasons to get out of there, you're not constantly pressing forward. Balal, you can say a lot of critiques of Balah Muhammad, he was never, he's never looking for a way out of a fight. No. Like that's, he got poked in the eye twice and just kept fighting, right? Like this, it's just a nonsense thing.

Like, my issue with the image out of Gary is some of the lies that he says are at least lies that you understand, right? Like they're promotional lies or maybe he believes them. But like half of it, he doesn't believe. And he's just saying it because he thinks he's supposed to. He never in his life believed he was finishing Belaw and thought. minutes because nobody does that hasn't happened and he's not the guy to do that but he said it because he's he just says things because he's supposed to say things or whatever and it's it god

it sucks like be i don't believe this is who he actually is and so that makes it worse that like this feels like a put on just be yourself and if this is you be somebody else man like i don't know you are who he is terrible he is like a really nice guy like he is he is he is like that where he's confident he is like a really nice guy in person like he really is it's a lot of that same attitude and everything but he's very very respectful and nice but that's that's who he like and that feels right like that feels like his talk should not be if ball stands to me i'm gonna kill him when we know it's gonna have like yeah man like he's supposed to he very clearly should be the dude that's a former

world champion i think i'm better than him i'm gonna be all the way better than him on saturday day night and maybe you know if if it happens i'll get him out of there but like i am you know i got nothing bad to say about belal mohammed he's a champion for a reason i haven't been there i'd like to be there that would feel honest as opposed to everything he does which just feels disingenuous and like that that's just one of the worst things to me people can feel that when you aren't like a genuine person and he's super does not once he gets a mic in front of him Yeah. So see for him. And then I'll, I'll finish up quickly with a pair of A pluses. And they go to my boy, my fantasy MVP, Waldo Cortez Acosta. What a great promo from him after winning the fight.

Calls out Aspedal says I want to fight in December. I'm coming for you. But I didn't call for, I'm not calling for the fight right now. I'm coming for you. And then puts the eye patch on. And it puts it on Bisming. Like everything about that was so great. It was just unbelievable. First thing. he says like, I want to fight again in December. Hero, absolute hero. I love the hospital stuff. I love the iPad stuff. Waldo is getting over, Jed. And he's doing it in a way that not many heavyweights can do because the only way you can really get over in the sport now is by fighting a lot. And he's doing it. He wants a sixth fight this year. And I think he should get it. Just keep that momentum going with him. And believe me, go back to when I talked about him fighting rebellious to

Spain. I didn't think I would be ever in this position with Salsa Boy, but he has turned me in such a big way this year. Outstanding stuff, A-plus from Waldo Cortez-A-Costa, and I'm actually going to give it A-plus-plus to Kiyoji freaking Horaguchi, who was the MVP

of this entire event. It was so great. It was so great. What a performance, gets the submission. He beat the living hell out of Tagir Ullumbeckoff. What a performance and then he goes where is pantosia he's my teammate but it doesn't matter i will beat your ass and i was like yeah this is unbelievable this is dana white's dream come true he's got two

guys who are at the top of their division that trade together both say they will fight each other and then kiosi goes out there two it's not what it's not that they train at ATT like they're like friends they they yeah they're buds and their both just like yeah it's fine we'll fight each other, and I believe him. This is the promo of the year, Mike. Everything about it rock. A plus plus from Keoguchi. The performance in the Octagon should give him a title fight.

The promo afterwards, they should just get, Pantos should just give him the title. Like, Horkuchi should be the champion. No, but like what timing? Two weeks before Pantosia's about to fight Josh Van, I'm telling you right now, if Pants goes out there and wins, and I think he will beat Josh Fans,

uh, Josh Van, bring Kioji in there. let's do a little face off that'd be incredible stuff having like do a little debate back and forth like it would be incredible stuff tremendous promo from keoggi or Gucci jed what is what is this uh one i shout out arm and surukin i thought he cut a good promo right great performance good promo waldo corteza costa all the way with you on that one um if they i think maybe the greatest take that we've ever come up with on any of our programs this whole year has been proven of like the way you become a star is you just fight a lot because look at the

vibes around Waldo, Waldo Cortez Acosta of all people and Shafka Rakhmanov, like the people in the sport have memory of goldfish. And so like if you're just not fighting every three months, they forget you exist. WCA has done the thing. Great on him to get over in the fashion he's done. Uh, Kyo or Grucci cut the promo of the year. And Mike, I'm going to one up you. Oh. You don't bring him in for. the face off at you know i goodness gracious we hope pants beats josh fan because that would be sick here's what you do mike keoggi corners pantosia into in two weeks

keoggi is not just their cage side he is in the corner he's the he's that fourth cornerman that doesn't do anything he's just there he's in the corner he's hanging out they go and win and then he pants cuts his own promo on his corner man the same way keoggi just did keoges promo of rock because he was smiling the whole time it's like it conveyed the appropriate energy of i don't hate this dude i'm not lying that this is bad blood like you're my teammate and friend i'll still beat your ass though in the same way that you mike and i and everybody at home has threatened to beat one of their own friend's ass before it doesn't have to be a serious thing he did it and so he comes he's the cornerman he's holding the spit bucket or whatever and then pants

beats van and he cuts his own promo on him and it would be a top 12 moment in the history of the sport it would be the best thing in the world to see a fighter caught his own corner man god is so good man that's so good you could pro wrestling the crap out of this just had pantosia be like i'm going to corner one of these guys i just don't know who yet and then he makes the decision right before the fight it would be pretty sick oh my god he he wears like a like a trench coat and then he pulls the trench coat off and he's wearing the colors of of one of the two fighters it ends up being pantosia van is shook pantosia is shook and then gucci the guch could just pick up the pieces man i'm so excited he's back man it's so great can you just see like

this is alexandah who had one of the most like heartfelt like genuinely emotional post fight speeches of all time talking about i'm a champion now are you proud of me dad can you finally like acknowledge me as your son like that was an incredible moment and then can't you see him you know he taps out josh van uh daniel cormier or jo rogan i guess it would be joe rogan comes up to him and it's like pantosia that's your fifth or sixth i don't remember what title defense number is on now i think i think this would be five that's your fifth successful title defense what you know how are you still doing this what do you want do you want your opportunity to go fight Mara Dvaloshealy

and he just puts his arm around Joe Rogan he's like Joe there's a traitor in my midst Joe and he just points it oh gee it would be the best it'd be so good okay you know who else apparently doesn't like

IMA Chatt of Gary Shavkat I saw that they got to Hamsat Shabaev Oh is it Chimayev? Oh I thought Shavka pushed him was it Homsat Oh that's much that made more sense because I was like I don't know why Shavkat would push him um because I don't there's not beef there but that's funny yeah I'm like he was talking Hamza like gave him a little pat

because he was walking away Ian takes a sip of a drink he turns back around starts talking to Hamzat you can see Hamzat's facial expression change in a don't get any closer to me and then Ian keeps talking to him just trying to be nice and then Hamzad booked that fight just shoves him one hand I would like to see Hamzot kill him that was a like push to the chest shoved him off camera type thing and then Ian's all mad and all right so go check that out uh it's on ima eimichita gary's uh instagram so you can go check out that moment between him and humzaa shama if so uh corikuchi's the man uh what what a what a night for him just did everything correctly and you know what jed what's the other what's the other lesson

we keep we keep preaching on these post shows don't ask for bonuses yes because we have bonuses and notice that none of the fighters who asked for bonuses got a bonus arm and got a bonus keoggi got a bonus waldo got a bonus chalk up those points baby and luke riley got a bonus now he may have asked for a bonus and i just didn't understand what he was saying that accent is pretty spectacular uh i've never heard a more a more scouser accent like i've got a pretty good here at this point and I was genuinely struggling to understand some of the stuff who Crowley was saying. But nasty

performance gets a bonus in his great comeback man, great comeback. Yeah, I kind of feel like who all got him sorry I wasn't paying attention. Sarukian Waldo Cortez Acosta Kioji Horaguchi and Luke Riley. Are you kidding? Yep.

Come on, bro. Asu Olamabayev pulls a Hail Mary flying guillotine out and doesn't get a bonus on that? Yes, for one, didn't I don't think so. I don't feel like the hat man would have asked. Maybe he did. I was too busy just in the depths of a fight with the whole internet about correctly identifying that submission.

Yeah. Ishmael Nardiev, like absolutely, I mean, really nuked a guy with one punch. He absolutely asked for 50. Oh, he definitely. I don't remember. Maybe Al Mabayev did. Okay. But like, you got a bonus that out, man.

Yakiyev had a 33 second submission, didn't get a bonus. He doesn't deserve a bonus. bonus he should he shouldn't get a bonus for that that was a murder mctabak or i also did not ask for a bonus and he may have just ended jacker mansonson's career and also did not get a lot of finishes tonight man or today it was yeah it was a good night i can't believe volken osnabir vulcan os to be here just goes out there and obliterates alonzo menafield in less than 90 seconds that was a brutal knockout no boys i kind of feel like vulcan's going to be the most forgotten guy of this entire of this entire card despite having the performance that he had i don't know man i

genuinely think we are going to forget all about that ian machado gary performance very quickly yeah we'll keep talking about him yeah i mean vulcan is also just a forgettable man but that was dope it was great performance he he did it quickly which is all we asked for um shout out to michael bisping who was just like in full-on robot mode like I have things I'm going to say the power of Vulcan Ozedemir dude he didn't knock him out because he threw like the scariest punch of all time

he threw a 50 piece it was not a power shot that did it Vulcan lamped him up with a Tekken combo like it was dope and even afterwards Volk was like yeah I wasn't trying to hit him hard I was trying to hit him a lot I was like yeah man that was done and then he said I'm on my way back to a title

I didn't get one that's that's wild man oh you mean with the quote unquote standing guillotine. It's not a standing guillotine. I can't. I can't. I can't. I don't know if you did the social post and it was intentionally trolled me. I was so upset. I was so upset. A.K. was like, are you okay? I was like, no, I'm not. I don't. Look, that's a flying guillotine. It's just so clear, which is much cooler than a standing guillotine. John Gooden said standing guillotine and I, that's fine. He's in the moment of doing stuff. But then like everybody just went with it. It's not. His feet are not on the floor. It's not a standing guillotine. In fact, it's like the one time in history that flying is the appropriate word. Because flying just means jumping. Like a flying arm bar means you jumped into the arm bar, but you never finish it in the air.

You fall to the ground. You finish the arm bar. He jumped the guillotine and was in the air when the guy tapped. It is a flying guillotine. Call it its right name. It's the stupidest thing to be bothered about, but he was driving me insane. like we're not ones who go out and like clip farm or look for reels but i think we have like 10 reels that we can pull from this post by which already we haven't gone to the people yet it's a

it's a standing it's not a standing guillotine terrific post show standing guillotine is a very different thing and i just i was so john jones john jones joan machete is like the example i used composo like immediate was like here's one that happened 10 hours ago whatever it's like yes because when you say standing guillotine there's an image in your head and it's not you don't jump a standing guillotine because you jump the guillotine so your feet are not on the floor it's very stupid it's very stupid thing to be bothered by i know that and i couldn't i was it was one of those you ever have those moments you're like why do i care why this isn't meaningful and i couldn't i couldn't stop i couldn't stop being upset about it i love it nothing quite makes

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There's not a single fight. I want to see him in at this point after watching that fight. I just kind of felt bad for him. Got hit behind the ear. Wasn't like a full-on shot from Oralbae, who's essentially like a 55er, who is like just doesn't want to cut the 55 anymore. Because even they were on the broadcast, they were like, hey, he looks like Michael Morales in there.

At 170 pounds. I'm like, that's, that's a stretch. That's definitely a stretch. I think they were talking about, I think that the point, because I remember hearing that. I think what they were trying to say was, I think Michael Morales is actually bigger than Jackermancy. I think that's where Felder got to. I think that's where they were trying to go.

Yeah. And it's like, yeah, that's probably true. But it was a weird thing. That chaos was really bad, but like very predictable, but also bad in, like, like the way he collapsed when he got like because the behind the year shot though like that's supposed to be like an equilibrium shot you're like world gets turned he fell like a dim like a demolished building like he just went on top of himself uh very predictable cutting to welterweight he's not going to help your chin uh yeah it i would like it of jackermanston didn't

compete anymore my favorite line from the broadcast was from paul felder like right when the main event started or like right before it Because like I said earlier, Hooker and Sirukian touch gloves. And Paul Felder goes, he goes, I liked Dan. We didn't touch gloves. He goes, he had butted him yesterday and he got a glove touch. I thought that was very humorous from Paul. He was very good at this.

That's a pretty good line. Paul's very good at this. I enjoy him on the broadcast. He makes everybody better. Yeah. I never think, I never once think that Paul Felder is saying or doing. doing something stupid, which is rare because like, it's hard to speak for eight hours. Like it just is.

You're going to like we, we screw up things all the time. I got, I'm willing to give you grace that, but like very rarely do I think that was a dumb thing from Paul Felder. And he's basically the only person I can say that about. Uh, we shout it out my boy, Waldo Cortez Acosta, what an absolute hero. Get him on December 13. 250 points. He is now tied for MVP officially. Uh, Kio Gior Gucci.

what a legend Luke Riley great performance I almost you fight was so fun I almost went perfect on our MMA fighting staff picks

the only one I missed nice was Nicholas Dalby I got that one wrong but we also we also got except for Guy Guy always believes in

Nicholas Dalby well he's watched he's watched Nicholas Dolby beat all of his countrymen so I get it uh Saigid Izaga Makayev

I screwed that up so bad I will eventually learn his name uh isaq mayev is like myev yeah where we got this is this is the piece of corner advice that was translated that i've never heard before uh why don't you have any power that is a i got probably the funniest thing that's ever happened on the dog it's like a translating market chef wasn't he i i don't know man but it's just like why aren't you why can't you hurt him why are like because also because that's

translated like it's not zero percent that he wasn't like why are you punching like a little bitch like it's possible that that's what he said or something akin to that why don't that's certainly what it felt like we're like why don't you have any power like why are you why are you hitting like a pansy it's just like wild great comeback win for a sule mavyev incredible i can't believe he can't believe he's no rude uh yakyaev gets he 33 second submission he was one of the bigger favorites on the card uh ishmael nardiev nasty knockout and rule aliev uh spoils the ufc debut for shem rock denzel freeman won a heavyway fight that's certainly a fight but jed i wanted to want to give you a second

to uh wax poetically about alexandra tporia who fought bexat almakan that was a fight We were both very much looking forward to watching. I missed it. I'm going to go back and watch it. No, you haven't seen it. I've not seen it. I was driving back. It was probably the best actual fight on the card.

Oh, okay. Both sides fight on the card. I believe I was the only one. Other performances were better, but I believe I was the only one in our staff picks who picked Toporia. That was my spot. I was like, I think Toporia can't actually win this fight just because he's a pain in the ass to fight. He's just a nuisance who just keeps moving forward and he can't get hurt. So he just can kind of just make you.

suffer and apparently that's what happened here today jed uh great win against a really good fighter huh um yeah so very quickly i do want to say on the heavyweight opener um i haven't seen that fight but i have an good authority that was terrible that fight is awesome because shout out to both men who very clearly should have been fighting on contender series and dana white would have come up and been like i'm not giving either of you a contract and in fact i hate both of you personally and don't want to ever see you again. And instead, they're in the UFC for whatever reason. I truly don't understand why that fight was booked.

Tuporio Bexat was banging. I very, very clearly believe it's 29, 28. A lot of people at 30, 27, Tuporio, which I straight don't get. It doesn't matter. This was the first time I've ever watched Alexander Tepurio fought him and like, oh, he's actually good. Like, he is a good fighter.

He is like on the brother. on the other brother scale we don't know exactly where he's going to settle in but he's less dan miller now and like much more in the like towards the sergio pedis side of things it's like being a good fighter um because i think like is a nebulous term i think bexat's probably more talented but tuperia had a really solid game plan executed it well could not be deterred from fighting right Like, I thought Beckshot was cleanly tuning him up in the first round and people disagree. I think those people are wrong. Because Beckshot was doing like a bunch of really cool stuff.

Every time he hit him, Tuporia was like getting moved by it, some really nasty leg kicks that because of the timing of them basically sat Tuporia down at various points. He was hitting this really dope switch knee to the front side as like a counter when Tupori would step in. He'd do a lot of really cool things. and Tuporya never got dissuaded. He never got discouraged and he just kind of kept putting pressure in his face even when he would get hit and he would feel it.

You would see him sort of shake it off. He would just continue sort of doing it. And that wore down Bexat. Like as the fight went on, Bexat started throwing less because when he was throwing, he wasn't backing Tupri off of him. And so he was getting discouraged

and it didn't matter what he did. Taporia was not. and so in the second round he really started to take over the second round was certainly it's a pretty round more competitive than the third round which was pretty close to one-way traffic

for the bulk of that round and he just like that is that is a really impressive performance against a guy who is probably like a little bit better better being a very objective like subjective word there and who had a lot of success early

and you just sort of stuck to your principal, stuck to your game plan. Made a couple of small adjustments. He's not remotely as good as his brother. And at some point, we should probably have a conversation about what I believe is a very stupid idea that they don't fight at the same times. Because that's just not a, I don't think that's reasonable. But this was the first time I was really impressed with him because I like Bexat. I don't think Baxat's going to fight for the belt.

But I think Bac Sots, you know, like a top 30th dude and talented. And Tampura put on a really, really great performance. And that fight was very, very fun. I encourage you to watch it. And for those you haven't seen it, I think it was great. It was a really fun fight. Yeah, Alexander, I think, you know, from my interviews with him, I think he understands that, like, Tupori is the guy.

Like, he's, he thinks his brother's the best fighter on planet Earth right now. Yeah. And he doesn't think he's the best fighter on planet. I think his brother is. So he wants to do everything he can to help his brother achieve that. So if that means, like, Ilya has a fight, I'm not booking one. I'm going to focus all my attention. on my brother and then when he's done then if an opportunity arises he doesn't have another

fight coming up then i'll fight so it's more on him making that choice as opposed to like i think that's a silly choice um because one i don't to i don't know to what extent like you're focusing all your energies on your brother is like super necessary for your brother's success but two like if you if you want to do that then just do it and don't don't fight because like the idea that they will never training camp at the same time means that either you're going to like you're going to entirely subsume to ilia which means you are only fighting in like the rarest of circumstances because ilia should be fighting twice a year as the champion of the world and so you're having to really fit into narrow windows or you know i feels like there is the other side of it too where

ilia is not going to do it if his brother's got something and so then that's dumb because ilia should fight twice and so you look if that means you have to shortchange your own camp okay I guess that's the decision you made but it seems very I don't want us to not get Iliate Tupori fights because Alexander

Tupri is fighting that's stupid yeah I don't think it's really like that I think it's more of the other way around you won't get Alexander fights because Ili is fighting it's more of the other way I mean that's fine that still just seems like you could just fight too man I don't

no other people do this so like it doesn't well i mean Alexander's not just like a he's he's basically like ilia's coach like he's this guy so he he he acts is like not like then just coach i don't yeah it just it seems very very weird to me man i mean that's why he took like so many like so many years off from fighting yeah or like get another coach there are lots of those like i don't know all i'm saying is i never saw islam mochachev and habib nor bring him out of be like oh he's got a camp can't do like no it's dumb it's a dumb thing you should fight or don't i it seems dumb to me but

you know they're adults they can do whatever they want all right uh shout out to taro welcome to the community as a new member of the youtube uh spencer super chat by the way we're going to questions now super chatters gets to the front of the line we'll go for another like 10 or 10 or minutes or so uh spencer howdy boys and cali so loved waking up to fights was impressed speaking of alexander uh alexandra's grappling slash power i get future top 15 but not title contender vibes thoughts uh go for a second i have to do a boxing thing oh okay yeah you you lead off okay i mean i don't know i mean the toporias have this this just crazy energy man it just seems like everything comes up to poria these days so yeah i mean like i don't look at him as a guy that's

like oh if anybody can beat marab it's him uh i definitely don't have those vibes but i could see him getting a ranking at some point i just don't know if he's going to be active enough to really make a move so so what was the question now that i'm back uh spencer gets future top 15 but not title contender vibes from alexander to poria uh probably not i mean i will confidently say no if they're going to continue to do this dumb ass thing where he doesn't fight when his brother fights he's He's 29. He's two fights this year, though, which is... Yeah, he's 29.

That's just, nope, just probably not. He's, you know, that's not like old, but if you're at most fighting twice a year and most likely fighting once a year because of the cadence of the thing, like, you're not getting there in any reasonable timeline. Also in, like, a really good weight class. But again, this was the first performance I watched. I was like, oh, I should care about him now. I did not care about him before.

he was just the brother of one of the best fighters in the world, which is cool. But now it's like, oh, he's independent of that, a fighter of merit. And I thought this was a great performance. I would like to see him, you know what I'd like to see for him? I'd like to see him fight three times next year because that's what you would anticipate of a guy in his position. A guy with some promise, certainly some ability and a name that could get pushed. You'd like to see him have a very active year to get over. obviously that's not going to happen if ilia is going to fight two or three times next year so

yeah that that appears to be the decision he's made and if he's happy with it he's an adult and he gets to make those choices i don't get to live his life for him according to our good friend oscar willis who is in katar uh this is what he tweeted not that long ago hamzat says i and gary came up and jokingly punched him in the back and that's why he snapped quote you know this guy trying to be Connor, but never going to be Connor. That is Oscar's report from one Hamzaa Shama. Yeah, that sounds about right.

Yes. Uh, what else we got? What else we got? Of, of the people to joke around with, I feel like Hamzaa Jamaa would be fairly low on that list. I'll be like, I should joke with Hamzot. He'll, he'll laugh this off and not respond in an outsized fashion. Joseph had a bunch of questions. We touched on almost all of these. Uh, but we'll hit this one since I don't think we're going to a lot of Alex Perez questions.

Alex Perez actually got into a fist fight today, Jed, and he's now lost five of six. Pink slip for Mr. Perez, you think? We talked about this on the preview show, and AK had a take that I really agree with. If his contract is up, he will not get re-signed. I don't think they will cut him, right? Like, I think that if, you know, he has extended past his contract,

yep, that's it. they're not going to re-sign him and that's why it was like one i was so impressed with the comeback from alma yov and two is so heartbreaking because alex prez like he was doing it he might have been fighting for his job or sort of fighting for his job and for 10 minutes look great like looked was like oh look that's why the dude is a top 10 ranked guy still despite the fact that he's won once in the past six years or whatever he still got this game in him uh he's just lost a really really elite guys And maybe he still has Osama Vyves is obviously a top ranked sort of dude and talented. But it was a pretty tough one.

Like that, that feels, again, kind of silly, given who he's lost to, sort of feels like the end of Alex Prez's career in some ways. But an incredible comeback, man. Like, that's why I was like, I would, I would have bonus the hell at Osu. Lazy bed. Paul also dropped a quote, his urine will be a different color tomorrow. after a body kick i mean just just he's so good mix it up a little bit his dry sense of humor is like is just so wanted on these broadcasts he's so good i really like paul i think it's a perfect world for him mike you're recording ought no today or tomorrow probably tomorrow i traveled back

i traveled today i hate travel days of the worst uh came right back to work haven't slept a lot this week so i'm probably going to take advantage of that but i think we'll record tomorrow because i have to work tomorrow morning so uh what else we go uh jed seems stressed today favorite finish of the night if you had to go back and rewatch a finish again what are you picking i'm not stressed in the fact like i actually had a really good morning like i enjoyed the fights today uh there were just like a couple of things that were grind that grinded my gears ground my gears i'm not honestly not sure the correct phrase there um and one of them is i'm machado gary and the other was the everybody calling that a standing guillotine

which again totally stupid I recognize that's a me issue the Imichato Gary I blame him he sucks the guillotine thing that's a me problem that I couldn't let go of my favorite finish of the night let's go pull up the card and look I don't think we really talked about it

because of the other stuff going on I will say Waldo Gretace Acosta is never going to win a belt he is probably going to to be a ranked heavyweight for like a decade um because he's got a really good chin i don't feel like people don't talk about that part of his game um because he's not like a great counter striker and that he can hit pole counters and stuff like he just sort of lets guys wade in and swing at him because he can take the shot and then he can find the window to land

his own counter like he did against gasea basically gazi got out over his skis and he dropped him and then the finishing punch was in the counter Gazev was already on functional skates and backing up and he just put it on him. So that was pretty impressive. I do think you know, the best one is the

Amabaya comeback. Like that's the best finish. But if I was going to watch one back again, it would just be the Kioji because that fight rocked. Kioji looked like he was fighting a dude at featherweight. Tegy Lubekhov was gigantic.

against him and keoggi fought brilliantly he you know never really got into tie-ups save for once or twice when olymbekov would get the get a connection and start a sequence on him he was stuff in the head he was working over's and unders and getting wizers to his feet to the fence up by the second round uh oolumbekov looked like he wanted out of there and in the third round he functionally knocked him out before tapping him like he he jawed his ass multiple times yeah uh like if i'm watching any of these fights back it will be the main event because armand did some really cool stuff in that fight too frankly um that was like wildly impressive it's not dan was not without offense um you know he tried a couple power guillotine and stuff and armand hit some

frankly pretty dope escapes from some like because there were moments where i was like man armand that is he's started to defend that way too late and it was like actually no never mind he was fine um he had a gator roll into dan hooker's guard he was not in guard from a guillotine attempt he was in the overtop half set and dan is starting to edge up and what like really go for go for the trap involvement and get that end and he gator rolls into dan's guard and then gator rolls again and just spins all the way in dance guard out of this power guillotine it was like i don't know if i've ever seen that happen it was sick and then went into side control

and then immediately moved in the thing and just started beating the hell out of them so like I'll probably watch the main event a couple of times because what Armand did was just was so good and it's the best I've ever seen Armand Seru can look I left that fight being like oh I think Armma would actually beat Ilya and I'll watch Keog

because that was dope in WCA hero absolute hero. RS 40 will Oralby fight for the belt one day at Walter Waite no I won't say I won't like I mean

fighting for the belt is such a high bar he's still quite young which is pretty helpful for him I think he's 27 28 I know he's not 30 I do think what the idea of him going back to lightweight

is very silly don't do that and look he's talented dude you know who do you lose to in the UFC he's got one Rebechki and that fight was good. I mean, it's a Matushabeschi fight. They're always good.

That was one of the best fights of the year. Yeah, that was like a really good fight. So I would not write this dude off. I think Walter Waite's a great spot for him. I believe he will be a top 15 guy for sure. Give him a little time this weight class. It's hard to ever predict someone's going to fight for a belt unless they're like Michael Morales. You know, I'm just like, yeah, the dude's at least fighting for a belt. But I think it's possible. The upper range for him is to fight for a belt. certainly the talent is is definitely there like the the foundation is there he's i don't know like he is you know everyone says you know kevin lee was like the biggest tweener in like the ufc if they had

a 165 pound division like kevin lee would have been a world champion which obviously is not true but i understood the logic like oral by might actually be like the quintessential lightweight walterweight tweeter because i think he does well in both he can make 155 he he's done it a bunch of times but i mean he's also like in contract two now so like there's no real sense of urgency to make lightweight and like clobber himself to get down to that way when you're not making a ton of money so um yeah i think you could do fine at welterweight i think you do fine i mean but why even like put yourself through this right now with oosman there like you might never get a title shot up as long as

as Kamara Usman's in that division, so. Do you want to know a really fun thing that I just confirmed that I thought was true, but I wanted to make sure. What? Tonight, the first time Keoggi Horaguchi has won a performance bonus. Oh. He didn't because he didn't win one in his first stint in the UFC. Look at that.

He's getting a bonus and a title shot after this performance tonight. What a time to be alive. Honestly, I'm a little sad because part of me was like if pants wins, just do pants versus marab you don't do that now you do pants keog and then if pants wins you do pants versus marob i don't know who marob's going to fight then there ain't nobody after yon come on pewter pull it off baby it'd be dope if you pulled that off uh people are asking uh who is king green fighting on TBD per the broadcast tvd i we heard some rumblings about some stuff but it wasn't like set so nothing to really report

court here. I believe the rumor and innuendo was, I think frontman O'Brien tweeted to study he's spending Jai Herbert, but you would think if that fight was happening, there would not be a TBD on that screen three weeks before the event. So the dreaded TBD awaits and we'll see. Look, King Green is fighting, he's fighting somebody

because that dude don't care, he'll fight. Yo, King Green, why don't you just put on like 80 pounds and go fight a wall, though? Armand, go fight him. Armand, go fight him. Hey, look. You know, Islamakachev beat him and I think one. Was that the fight that got him the title fight?

It sounds like that might be right. You were supposed to fight Benny, I believe. And then Green stepped in. I think that's correct. I'm not 100%, but that sounds right. Yeah, do it. I'm looking it up right now. It is, in fact, correct.

Oh, well, there you go. Now you get, I mean, it worked for Islam. Maybe it'll work for him. So, uh, someone asked about Yaroslav Amosov. So fighting December 13th seems like he's going to fight. Nothing to really like report here. Um, I think you guys have probably seen rumors and stuff on social media. I would say there's smoke to that fire, but that's all I can really say right now.

Um, I think we're good. We got boxing, a whole bunch of other stuff. there's some boxing happening you know we're on to Thanksgiving that's exciting very excited yeah very excited like as we as the music plays

I you can leave the music playing we don't have to touch along but just I am all the way on board now I think Armans Rukin beats Elliott Tuporio do you can her yes i was picking armin to beat islam too but i would pick armin to beat everybody i think everyone knows the gimmick by now but i truly believe armin i truly believe armin can be i don't even know i asked i i was pretty confident that islam was beating arman um i thought the fight should

have happened certainly but i was like i think that this is i think it's just going to look like the first fight only like a little bit longer because it's five rounds but it'll you know competitive but clear uh i was always incredibly confident that islam would be i know that people were not i did not show that view uh i i i don't know like i i'm i would pick arman right now but man it's a really good fight i hope we get to see it i do too and maybe we will maybe we'll get a big announcement next week but if it happens stick with us at me fighting you i'm telling you they're announcing patty next week now whatever the contract is you'd be like hey man my brother's done fighting i don't need that extra money i was talking about

Patty Pimblen, January is totally fine. Totally fine. Well, whatever happens, we'll let you know at M.Afiting.com. It's a great website. You have a great rest of your weekend. Love y'all. Shopcott for the weltoid strap, boys. Michael Morales.

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