MMA Fighting - UFC Seattle Post Show: Is Joe Pyfer A Serious Contender After Stopping Israel Adesanya?

Episode Date: March 29, 2026

Joe Pyfer has arrived. On Saturday, Pyfer scored the biggest win of his MMA career, stopping former two-time middleweight champion Israel Adesanya in the main event of UFC Seattle. The win not only launches Pyfer into the UFC’s Top 10, but it also raises serious questions about the fighting future for one of this generation’s greatest champions. Following UFC Seattle, MMA Fighting’s Jed Meshew and Alexander K. Lee react to Pyfer’s big win over Adesanya, and what the future holds for “The Last Stylebender.” Additionally, Meshew and Lee discuss whether UFC Seattle was the event of the year thus far, Alexa Grasso’s sensational finish, what the future holds for Maycee Barber, Michael Chiesa’s retirement, a plethora of other finishes and wild outcomes from the undercard, and more. Follow Jed Meshew: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@JedKMeshew⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow Alexander K. Lee: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@AlexanderKLee⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Subscribe:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ http://goo.gl/dYpsgH⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Check out our full video catalog: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://goo.gl/u8VvLi⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Visit our playlists:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ http://goo.gl/eFhsvM⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Like MMAF on Facebook: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://goo.gl/uhdg7Z⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow on Twitter: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://goo.gl/nOATUI⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Read More: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://www.mmafighting.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Look at us go Fights have happened And I Have I think successfully pulled This without too much issue Honestly pretty surprised about it But please let me know if you're seeing this on the YouTube Because I think you have

And if you're hearing it What you are hearing Ladies and gentlemen Are the horns The horns of victory And they sound for B. Joe Piper who finishes Israel

in the second round of UFC CACA. A lot to talk about. And this event is also an R-AF, which we'll touch on a little bit. And currently, TFL Pittsburgh is still going down at whatever it is that exists in Pittsburgh.

So we'll keep you updated as that goes. But you've got a lot of it. lot to get to and joining me. He's going to do most of the talking since I'm also on the ones and twos. The King in the North. Some say he's no longer the Prince of Positivity based on some recent comments he's made. I think he's going to be pretty, pretty positive tonight. Because that is a hell of a show we just had, A.K. Lee, AK. Oh, hi, everybody. How are we doing, buddy? Sorry, I was just checking my bets. Came out behind on a couple of things here. The Michael Keza, K. No regrets, by the way. A super fun wager to me. The super fun.

were fun. I mean, even if we didn't have much fun with it. Yeah. And I think we all agreed, you know, throw whatever, whatever your units are, they're like a very meeker unit on that guys, whatever your unit measurement. I threw 20 bucks on it and I'm okay with it. It was worth the 20. And I picked Grasso, but I picked Grasso on points. That was foolish. I should have just picked Grasso because she delivered one of the most insane friggin' finishes we've ever seen in UOC history. Oh, my Lord, that was terrifying. Wild stuff. Like that was the death of the climb, but if the climb's going to die, I'm okay with that being the way that the climb dies.

But we will get to all of that. And like I said, we will get to the RAF stuff. I have on this screen right here, we're about to get the co-main event at PFL Pittsburgh. So I've got that up. Something major happens there. We'll obviously talk about it.

But the, maybe not the biggest story, but the story we're going to start out with this evening, AK, is I think maybe just the story I'm feeling the most, and I certainly saw this out there. But tell me, A.K. Is this the event of the year?

Is UFC Seattle the MMA event of the year? Well, let me first say, I have not done a great job of keeping track of other events outside the UFC. So I'm a little hesitant to say that. But, I mean, we're mostly a UFC audience here. Let's be honest, that's what we're here to talk about. So if we're focusing primarily on the largest MMA promotion in the world, then, yeah, I think it was. I mean, the closest was the UFC Vegas 114. Emmett Vallejo's card.

Excuse me. We had not too long ago. Thank you. Not too long ago. And that card was almost great because it, like, exceeded expectations. So, no, I mean, for sure, you could still, if that is your pick for best UFC card of the year, I don't regret you at all. That was a super fun show.

But this one had more stakes. I think also it had, frankly, the possibility for it not to be a fun card to watch. I think I like the names involved and for the most part I like the matchups, but I would not have expected so many finishes. I think I don't know if anyone's following me on topology. If you look at my picks page, I think I only predicted like five or six finishes. Instead, hat tip to Michael Carroll, who tweeted we had the first six finish main card in many years. Sorry, I should have had that stat up ahead of me.

He said since UFC Santos versus Hill August 2022, 150 UFC events ago. It's the last time we had a six-flight main card and none of the flights went to distance. So amazing there. So it's obviously cleared the amount of finishes I predicted. That's a lot. And we had, like, there were storylines and they all kind of paid off in a meaningful way. I'm sure as we go to car. I'm sure I'm missing something.

But every storyline we kind of discussed pre-fight, every storyline you guys heard about in the lead of the fights that the fighters themselves were talking about. There was a resolution. We did not get anything. I mean, some of these are TBC, kind of to be continued. But for the most part, stories progressed. We got, most importantly, we got super fun fights. Yeah, I think this has to be the best card of the early UFC calendar.

But I'm open to arguments otherwise, of course. I'm not open to arguments. I think it very clearly was. I thought last week's was the best card they had, and we've topped it. Also, just for the sake of... Wait, London? Was, or on paper last week was good.

We still had some fun. The main event was the main event. But yes, on paper I thought that was the best card. And then it still was a pretty good card. There was just some wonkiness. To be fair, this card also has some wonkiness attached to it.

But I think this blows anything else we've seen out of the water. I also do want to give, you know, PFL their love. Impakasanga and I just face planet Dalton Rasta. So not like when you when you hear face plant It's not like a like the best one But it's a face plant

And it's a pretty pretty solid knockout for Impa So there's that going on a PFL If you've got questions, you can put them in the chat We'll get to all your questions at the end But first I have questions I have questions for you, AK I've asked you one Was this the event of the year?

I think we've established it was Thus far plenty of time 327 looks promising. Let's just say that. But the thing we will be talking, I think the most about from this event is pretty obviously Joe Pfeiffer. Joe Pfeiffer gets it done against Israel, Adisina, in the second round. Was not an easy victory.

Really looked like he was struggling it in phases there. I haven't checked the scorecards. I don't know if they're out. I suspect he lost that first round. And he was well on his way to losing maybe majorly in the second round. around before turning things around with, well, we'll talk about how, but, okay, initial reactions to Joe Pfeiffer doing the thing. He got, he got this big opportunity and now he has done it come Tuesday.

He will be a top 10 fighter, maybe even like top six in the UFC. I don't think he'll make it that high up in our rankings, but you never know. What's your initial reaction to what Joe Piper accomplished on Saturday night? All credit to him. All credit to him. Praise. No, it's not B, Joe Piper anymore, guys. It's praise B, Joe Piper.

This is the new, the man has turned his life 360 degrees. That's a great gimmick. Praise. Joe, if you're out there, I don't know if he told him that, but you should tell him that. That's a great gimmick. A blasphemous thing to do, though? I think it's a blasphemous thing to do that. Oh, it could be.

You would actually be way better to respond to that. I'm not served in that, but I think that's a great gimmick. Yeah, yeah. So I'm running with it. So praise B, Joe Piper. Yeah, he's turned his life doing 60 degrees. ending up in the same place apparently but he's different right we talked about this in the preview show he's different um give him a lot of the credit like i said i know we're gonna kind of dive

into some tactical errors that izzie may have made by the guys i probably just my eye being red i think i rubbed it at the exact wrong time with some sort of foody substance so my eye is fine it's just uh should not i should not have touched it don't touch your eyes kids they tell you that all the time um ignacio bahamonde has got near you yeah yeah everything just turned red that's what happened look at the cage but we're going to get give Piper's flowers for us because he did the most important thing in a fight like this when you're supposed to step up and you're facing someone who you are like he himself has said I think is the great like is the greatest middleweight of all time but he did not uh treat as he with respect in

the cage let me put it that way that's what I mean to say he came out the way Joe Piper is supposed to do we don't think that Joe is like a five round fighter yet like he still has some development to do but I think we view him as a one to two round fighter and if he doesn't really get it done there like he's not going to be really impressive as the fight goes on. He was immediately coming forward. He was eating punches. Like, I mean, he was eating leg kicks. That's probably bad.

Just got to work on that. He was being aggressive. Just going in for takedown. Some of them was telegraphed, but essentially saying, I'm going to fight my fight. If I eat some characters, great. If I don't get you taken down initially, that's fine. Izzy has great take down defense. But he did not defer, I do not think, from his team's game plan, which is get in Izzy's face,

try to take him down and throw bombs. You're not fighting from range. You're not doing a little tactical Muay Thai battle with Izzy. You're throwing bombs. That's what you do. Sometimes you're going to whiff. It's going to cost you some energy. But when you land, he's going to feel it.

And he's going to notice. And maybe you even goad him into fighting your fight, which I think is what we saw in the second round. I think we can all agree a little uncharacteristic from the last stylebender because some of those wild exchanges of the end jet may have led to his downfall. Is that fair? Oh, yeah, man. That basically leads me to sort of the next question,

because I, like you, I think that there are reasons to credit Joe Piper for this performance. We talked in the preview show. We talked a little bit about this on BTO. The thing I didn't want to see happen in this fight was Piper just lamping Izzy immediately, which honestly, at stages it looked like it could happen. He was getting pretty close early, but that's always been his E's style. He's just out of range counter.

What I did want to see is, oh, he just lands it because I feel like we didn't learn anything. And I'll be honest, A.K., I don't know how you feel about this. I don't think I learned that much, but I did learn some. Again, I do want to give Joe Piper credit here because this was not the exact same Joe Piper who fought Jackermanston or whatever. I think he lost that first round.

Again, I haven't checked the judge's scorecards. I'd be pretty surprised if he did. but the judge has surprised me tonight sometimes. So or Bruce Buffer, but we'll get to that. In the second round, though, when things started to get bad for him, I thought there was a moment where he might turtle right after the eye poke. And you never know, because fighters always react a little differently, but his reaction to the eye poke felt overly frustrated for a thing that's fairly common in a fistfight, right?

And I was like, oh, maybe this is, he's not having a good night out there. and maybe this is where things go wrong. And instead, he kind of as you were saying, stopped engaging with Izzy on so much the terms that Izzy wanted to. He started forcing more of a little bit of a brawl. In my view of it, I think that he got a little bit lucky because it felt like Izzy was just willing to meet him there because Izzy started having a lot of success in that phase.

And I think tactically, Izzy felt like, oh, I'm me. I used to do this forever. I can do this and win. And he's not that way anymore. And so ultimately he got got up, but you have to credit Pfeiffer for changing the energy. He shifted the dynamic of a fight that was going poorly for him. And I don't necessarily think that's something we've always seen him do or be capable of doing in fight. So I do want to give him some credit, but I just want to put this back up for you, AK. How much of that do you wait as a pro Pfeiffer maneuver versus is how much of this is he was really looking good and then decided to engage in a probably ill-advised brawl yeah you know it's maybe 6040 i always want to give the winner a little

more credit barring some like very obvious circumstances where the loser just like dropped an egg um i'll go 6040 because you you do have to acknowledge that the way the way this fight was going you feel like this this just was not a fight izzie would have lost in his prime um and i know that's not fair to joe pifer you fight people when you fight them um i still think this is a a meaningful win for Joe Piper. But like when we talk about a fighter declining, we're not just necessarily talking about their chin. That's number one, of course.

But, you know, you've got to go with the the Anderson Silva comparisons, of course, where yes, the guy had a great chin in his prime, but also his ability to like slip, punch his knock it caught clean, right? There was, if you look at a lot of like some of the older Anderson Silva fights, there's shots that definitely like touch his chin, but they're almost so glancing just because of his positioning, his ability to control range, the head movement,

you know, a lot of guys can't get away with sort of the lean back. Izzy could do that in his prime. He tried to get away with it a few times tonight at a varying degrees of success. Like I think there were some lean backs where they looked good, but Piper's kind of got more contact that you have to imagine Izzy and his team would have liked. So we're talking about the chin, losing chin, losing reflexes.

And from the mental aspect, losing the ability to adapt because I think you're all kind of talking about it where why did he change? Why did he suddenly think it was okay to brawl? And I think, again, when you're a little bit sharper, again, close to your prime, you're able to sort of refocus much easier as opposed to entering maybe a fight or flight mode, like entering this binary mode of do I run away or do I have to engage? Because I think there's an in-between there that Izzy and his prime could find.

And I don't think he can find that anymore. So it was fighter flight. He chose fight and against a younger guy who hits harder. It's just not going to go well for you. And so he gets hurt and it gets taken down, gives up position, and just really has no chance of getting up after that with the way Piper was coming at him. So yeah, 60-40, we do have to acknowledge

four straight losses now for Easy Man. And he's just... Three by finish. I said it in the predictions, I think we've been saying it a lot. He's in that territory of, wow, he's doing great until he's not. And once you hit that range, I cannot think of any fighters who came back from that.

Maybe I'm forgetting, but who came back from that before when we started saying that every fight? You can make an argument, And D'Olofsky did it a couple of times. One of one. Genuinely a very unique career. Two, heavyweight, a different dynamic.

But also legitimately, the reason And Jarlavski pulled that off is he fundamentally changed his style. And to me, that's sort of the big thing here is I think the moment Izzy got hurt, I knew the fight was over. It took a while. But as soon as you could see that, oh, he's buzzed, he's backs against. the canvas like I he didn't what tools does he have at that point because he's his recovery is not as good as it used to be and his instincts are going to be to engage in a fight that is only going to pro like be worse for him as we saw like he he would back up and he didn't just try and retreat and get a moment to breathe he backed up covered up and then tried to fire shots back and

then that's it all just sort of he was just engaging in a fight that he's ill equipped at this stage of his career. To me, that's sort of the story of most MMA careers, a vast majority of them, like you pointed out, AK, fighters are the last people to know when they're done. It feels like that's true in many sports in general, but maybe in other sports it is easier to reckon with shifting your style to accommodate a game so you can prolong. LeBron James, currently getting a ton of praise for being willing to be the third option for the Lakers.

You know, a lot more ego tied into fighting sports, and I think we see this more often than them, but this is a very common thing where, yeah, Izzy did really well and that he did really well against Nasardine Imovov, and he did really well against Trichist suplase, but he has not reckoned with, okay, he can only see the parts that are doing well and he can't come to terms with the fact that it's not a fluke that he is losing after doing well. this is a symptom of how things exist for him now. And if he wants to keep fighting, he should consider changing things up. But how do you change up something that made you be a two-time world champion and a kickboxing great?

You know, that's a hard thing. So he's in a tough place, AK, and that leads me to the million-dollar question. He did not retire in the cage. I don't think anybody anticipated it. But is it time for Israel-A.Sahna to retire, AK, what say you? Well, Jed, we get to play a very, very sad little game here. Would you indulge me in a little game? I mean, I suppose I could indulge you.

It's related to this question. Okay, so I haven't updated my own rankings yet. I had, this is UFC only, not other promotions. I had Izzy at five still behind Sean Strickland and Imovov, Duplice, Shemayev. I had Pfe, really, outside the top of Dean. So obviously, I'll drop, you know, Izzy down a bit, probably, you know, and jump Joe above him. my question is Jed Okay, let's see.

How low do we have to go to find a reasonable win for Izzy? So let me just throw some random things there. I'm probably going right outside the top of D&R. Right outside of the top of D&R right. Let's go outside of the top of you. This is probably a bad example. Okay, let's say someone close to my top 20,

Sharibullin. So is the question, can he win or would he win? Would he? Would he? Like be favored and you would be comfortable betting him to win. I don't think he would, which is the sad state of a favor. but I don't think he would.

He could, but I don't think he would. Junyang Park, the Iron Turtle. Izzy probably beats Jun Young Park. Okay. Oh, so I didn't have to go that low. So Juniang Park is like my 26th ranked somewhere. He probably beats Johnny Young Park. Okay, that's it.

So the problem with Sherylubbillard is like the issue with Izzy is, and you saw it early in this fight, like, yester Piper had success would take like with kind of. He got a take down at the very end of the first round when the round was functionally over. And he got the takedown that preceded the end when it. Izzy was jawed. Like, DDP got takedowns on Izzy when he heard Izzy. Like Izzy is very good at maintaining a range that makes it hard to shoot on him.

The way you are going to beat Izzy is you jaw him. And he's more liable to get jawed these days. And I don't think Iron Turtle is one to do it. Sure, bullet, I am not sold on as like a real contender, but he's got, he probably could land something there.

So, so, So again, so that has me thinking that maybe he should. So you still think he can beat a top 30 middleweight in the UFC? That's where I have like Iron Turtle, Michael Olegsaychuk. Middleweight ain't lightweight, man. Once you get outside of the top like 15. Would you favor him over Jacob Malkoon?

Probably. Even the graph. Probably, but like, yeah, it still would. It's not that good. So I think from that perspective then, from that perspective, he shouldn't retire. The only thing is, I guess if we're being realistic, he probably doesn't want to fight the Iron Turtles and the Jacob Malcoons of the world. It doesn't feel like that's going to get him.

Do you think that's unlikely motivated to return? Like, hey, is he you want to fight again in three months or you want to fight in the summer? Why don't you fight Jacob Malcun? Okay. So I guess we have to take that into account his desires as well. Because I just don't know. Pahedda. Yes.

I have him in that range as well. I think he's booked. I have number 27 in my ranking, my UFC rankings. So yes, that would be another good choice. So if you people want to see that, those kind of matchups, then Yeah, then he should not retire. But if you kind of think this man is not meant to be fighting outside of the top 20, he is not meant to be fighting in just like, you know, lower main card bouts that don't have any stakes.

Though I guess any fight he's in, they'd probably still at least make Maine or co-main, depending on the event. Then in that case, yeah, you probably do want to see Izzy retire. So this is a tough friend. I saw someone mention Chuck Ledell in the comments. There is very much a parallel in my mind of Chuck Waddell. Yeah, not a perfect comparison, but I remember when Chuck was fading and going down. I was like, yeah, but if you put Chuck in there with the number 26, 27 light headway, he'd still kill them. But then I had to remember, why would Chuck do that?

Like, that's right. It doesn't make sense for his career. Why would he do that? So that's kind of where Izzy is now. So should he retire? If it were up to me, of course I would say yes. Of course I think he should retire. He turns 37 in July.

He's been fighting for very, very, very long time. he's made a lot of money yes i think he's 116th pro fight long time do i think he will no no no you and i both said he wasn't he definitely wasn't going to retire on fight night and it sounds like he has no plans of announcing retirement this year at all i think either of these could i mean i don't think torres finney's the next one but a couple of people have done this out i think bow nick was very much a possibility johnny ebblin just stone brawling uh with brian battle immediately takes him down i don't I don't think that fight's going to last so long.

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Like Glover Tashara is not around to do that with or whatever. And he fought everybody at middleweight. Like what, what he wouldn't fight Kamar Usman, which is like kind of one that you could maybe have done in this sort of like, oh, legendary thing. Could I talk you into a Dustin Jacoby? I'm sorry. Uh, either you spas or. I did. What the hell did you just say?

Could I talk you into a Dustin Jacoby? No. I don't need that glory kickboxing fight in my life. Well, like, that's it. There just aren't that many MMA fights that I'm interested in seeing him in at this stage. I don't care about watching him fight. Bo Nicol, though that may well be a thing we get. Tune into on to the next one tomorrow morning with you and me

to see who we think he gets. But I would have at least some passing interest in watching is doing this and you do the extracurricular run you know have a BKFC fight maybe box Jake Paul like that sort of thing like the retirement tour

of combat sports like that would be kind of fun have him go to karate combat for one I'd have show them up an RIF you know we could have some fun with them outside of the UFC and I just think that I just struggle to think what would tickle my fancy

in the UFC so do you have any interest in seeing him do the Jake Paul BKFC karate combat sort of loop. I should, but I don't know why. It just feels so weird to me. It feels weird to me to say, oh, I don't see him fighting outside the O.C. When, like, he made his bones as a kickboxer once in a part time. Like, obviously, he wasn't worldwide famous, but he was a known entity in the kickboxing world, a successful kickboxer before coming to EOC.

But I don't know. I don't know why I feel like the Octagon should be the end of the road. Like, it doesn't make sense because you're right. could follow the Anderson Silva playbook. Like I know the guys have been getting compared their entire careers. And if he did the same thing and went into boxing and fought Jake Paul, it'd just be more comparisons. But I don't know. I'm not curious.

I'm not curious. I didn't. Well, that's not sure. I thought it was funny. You have no curiosity. Got it. You don't.

I think I can't. I can't do it. I can't get there. You don't believe in questioning things or being curious about the world. I'm not a curious. No. I'm not a curious cat. I'm not a curious cat.

Not when it comes to Izzy. I don't know. This is a recency bias. I mean, tonight was pretty sobering. Tonight was pretty tough. And we said it before. And Joe Piper's the worst dude who's going to beat him if he beats him. And he beat him in a way that was disappointing.

It's like that felt like a winnable one for Izzy and didn't do it. So tough scenes for him. Oh, whoa. People are saying RDR? RDR is going up to light heavy and Izzy doesn't want to. I would honestly like that, I mean, I'll watch RDR fight a mailman. I don't care. I would love see them at, I would have, like, that would be one of the ones that I'd be kind of interested in, frankly.

And if they could, if the UFC could be like RDR, maybe don't go up. Oh, Johnny Eblen's about to choke out Brian Battle, I believe. But by the way, that recommendation was from Max Rapkin, who also recommended Izzy versus Dylan dance. Oh, Johnny Eblen did in fact choke out Brian Battles in their first round. PFL, she is over. I can turn this off. That's good. Good for Johnny Eblen get back on the winning track.

This would never happen, but he's the only other fight outside of RDR that I would be genuinely interested in. What if we just got Habib in there, you know, just a Habib versus Izzy? I'd have some fun with that. It obviously won't occur, but I'd like that. I'd like that a lot. Okay, we have another very important thing to talk about. Do we? I mean, we have like seven pretty good things to talk about, but.

If we don't remember this as the night Joe Pfeiffer arrived in the top 10, what we are going to remember this is as the night that I think Macy Barbara might have died. Because Alexa Grasso ruined that woman. She also ruined the climb and she's taken the soul out from it. But to lose it in this way, buddy, I am okay with that AK because Alexa Grasso, one of the more violent finishes you will ever see in MMA, women's or men's and certainly in the UFC women's divisions. Alexa Grasso hits the sub-knockout, the Keo mission,

whatever you want to call it, floors Macy Barber in the first round. She is out. Grasso immediately jumps on the back and locks in the choke that she got Valentina Shubchenko with. I forget who the referee was. Was it Mitchell maybe? pulls are off. It is officially ruled a knockout. And I do think that's right that we can talk about that.

So, A.K. Mike Beltram. It was Mike Beltram. Yes. We can talk about the official ruling. It is officially a knockout. So if you had a Grasso sub ticket, I am sorry for your loss.

That is a tough beat. Though I think it's a fair one. A.K. Alexa Grasso is back. Oh. Maybe she was never gone. I don't know. I don't know. Maybe she was never gone.

First up, let me say I criticize these guys so often. Okay. Is this me or is you? I don't know. I see nothing wrong. You're getting real choppy. I don't know if this is me. Let me close my, you know, I'm going to do.

Chat, let me know if this is AK or me because I think it's okay. It's by me because I'm going to close my tweet deck. I think I've got too much going on here. I got a lot going on. I got, I mean, we all have. Oh, it's just me. Okay, apparently. Oh, what?

Apparently you're good than AK. Live, live, live free. All right, cool, guys. I was blaming myself. A little self-loathing going on there. All right, I'm just going to keep cooking then, Jed. Hopefully I can fix that on your end. First off, I criticize these guys so much.

Let me just say, I actually thought Herb Dean and Mike Beltran both did a great job with their stoppages today. I thought, at least the, sorry, the top two fights. I can't remember which other fights they officiated. Maybe the Piper beat down went on a little too long, but he was giving Izzy a lot of chances to defend himself. probably again maybe could have stopped it a second or two earlier but i'm not blasting her for that i don't think this was one of his like really fast up so herb great job there mike beltrott he tried to get in there

really fast i mean as soon as um as soon as uh barbara got turned around by that by that punch he was trying to get in there it's just grasso immediately went into murder mode and apparently tried to end uh macy barber's life uh so he got in there pretty quick he got in there pretty i don't think Mike Beltran could have stopped that fight any sooner. I thought first, let me say first also we have a poll. I put up a poll jet. What was the most memorable UFC Seattle moment? Piper takes out in Dissania.

Grasso sends Barbara to Shadow Realm. Kaysa retires. Buffer announces wrong winner. Pretty firm. 74%. Grasso sends Barbara to Shadow Realm. I think that is what people are going to take away from this. So I saw that comment on the screen.

Well done. Sorry for the podcast. was lazy bed saying poor Brian couldn't battle through adversity. Well done. I thought for a second with the barber stoppage that that like Grasso had like broken her neck. Like 1980s action movie style. I thought she hit it with one of those. Because she was.

It was uncomfortable, man. Like she was down for a long time. And the camera team. I also think they screwed that up from a production standpoint. Yeah. What do you think? I think they just, I think because they didn't know like we, it was obviously was a scary moment

and my read on this and I could be wrong I do want to be clear because Cormier's was saying like oh she's up now and the video feed is really not what was going on there? My assumption is that the video feed was a loop of the finish because they didn't want to put a live camera

on this woman who was not moving and so this was the like hey here's the immediately after and they held it until she got up to her feet well because otherwise I don't know Daniel Cormier is bad on commentary or was bad tonight in commentary. He's not blind. Like he wouldn't look at a woman clearly on the ground and be like,

she's up now. It's fine. But you saw the you got that feed as well, right? Yes. I think the video feed that was sent out was us doing a slow mo of her just staying there while they tried to figure it out. Because that's the only thing that makes sense to me. Because she was down for a very long time. But I don't think Daniel Cormier would have lied about her being up.

That doesn't make sense to me. So that was so confusing. And I did criticize him on social media. If I'm wrong, I take it back. But because in Canada, I don't know if you got a different feed. So I was watching, we have a sports net up here in Canada. And like, it was focused on Barber down the whole time and her like staring blankly into the camera. You guys got that as well.

Yeah. Yeah. So I don't, I don't know. I'm a little confused as to what, I thought he thought that she was up, meaning he thought like she was awake. Because just her eyes were up. Maybe that's it too. I don't know. I just thought, you're right.

I don't know if I should be so hard on Daniel, but I was a little disgusted because I was just like, Daniel, like, you don't really know what condition she's in. You need to just, there's times where you can be silent. And Dan Corme and Dominicruz know. Talk about something else. Daniel Cormey and Dominicruz know more about fighting than I will ever know. I totally respect that. What they do not know more about, not just than me, but I mean, actual like veteran TV personality is, is broadcasting. Like this is when I criticize when we criticize their broadcasting and stuff like this,

there's a reason people go to school for stuff like this is you're taught how to handle these moments. And I think he thinks his job is, oh, I need to keep talking all the time. And that's not necessarily the case. You need to maybe be quiet. And also when you have information, then you can share that information. So if he was seeing something different than what we saw, I, you know, I softened my criticism. But I think he really needed to sort of back away from this moment for a little bit. This was super scary.

And him saying, like, oh, she's fine. And, like, we can't move on. Like, no, man, we can't move on. This was really scary, I think, for anyone watching. Even if you're a veteran fight fan, like, you don't want to see this. Thank goodness she did eventually get up on her own power. And hopefully she's okay. We know she's had some sort of mystery health problems.

I don't want to think it was related to that at all. I think she was just really, really badly rocked. I've seen people saying they thought she was paralyzed. Like, yes, I mean, it was really scary. She had her by the neck. She knocked her out. This was a limp. body that Alexa Grasso had had by the neck.

And I'm not criticizing Grasso. She's just trying to end the fight. But it was a really scary moment. And a great, and let me just say again, of course, a great moment for Grasso. I mean, she is back, man. She is back. She had the right opponent, I think. And I thought she was going to win a comfortable decision.

Did not see her just one-shotting Macy Barber. Yeah, it was crazy. I will say I generally like Fitzgerald. I think he's pretty good. My one criticism of him is that he, does not take the reins as much as I think he should. Anick is much better about not. And maybe it's just like a comfortability thing with a guy like, you know,

Daniel Cormey and Dominic Cruz Hall of Famers. Anick is much more likely to steer particularly awkward or dangerous conversations in the appropriate ways. And Fitzgerald will kind of just let D.C. talk himself into something bad. So it is totally possible that that just was the live. feed and Cormier just was not doing his best work there. I was just trying, I don't know, but the whole thing was weird, but mostly the whole thing was sick because Alexa Grasso is going to be, I mean, frontrunner for, it's weird because I would

like to call that submission of the year front runner right now, but it's not. You need to explain to you by the way that, and I'm with you on this now because I was a little confused them on. I thought the choke had something to do with the finish, but you're pretty confident like she was out from the point. I am because I because I'm my initial reaction was how do you call it a chaos when he intercedes and she is in a clear and deep choke. If you go back and watch it and it didn't even take me long to watch it like there is who did you say the ref was beltrane? Beltrane. So there's a moment where when when Macy gets floored and basically spun around and draws you know, she gets the full 180 spin and.

Grasso puts the right hand, which low key, unbelievably good shot from Grasso on like a body in motion to just draw perfectly in the spot. And then just latches onto the back. Deltran's kind of like in a moving position. And so now he's got Barber's back to him. So he can't see her eyes. And so he doesn't, she knows she's dropped, but maybe she's there. You know, we've seen that happen all the time. So he, as he is spinning out into space to try and get a view there.

that's when Grasso jumps on it. And there's maybe like a half tick where he could have reacted faster, but like he's a human being. You know, it just is where it is. Yeah. And he recognizes, oh,

she's out and he stops. And she's not out because she was getting choked out. She's out because she was unconscious. And he could not intercede or determine beforehand that that was the case. So I do think, Keo is correct. It's just like a weird situation. And like,

straight up credit to Alexa Grasso. man, outside of the best left hand of her career. Right. Like, that's what that was. And a great follow-up right hand. My biggest takeaway from this is that don't let Alex Ograsso have your back because she is the meanest person in the world if she has your back, just the worst. She's crushing dreams.

She's crushing Jed Mishu's dreams when she sees a fighter. I wouldn't even mad, man. I was just, she is. She is actively hurting my life with her rear naked jokes. but dude those were like she she is so I think there is a fair criticism to levy against Grasso for like a broad lack of a killer instinct but like I think to me that has been one of the defining features

of this sort of slip slide that she was on before this is like she wouldn't really turn it up enough and just get mean in there that was not the problem She was ruining people. That was one of the meanest things I've ever seen. Not even fighting in life. Like I've seen a lot of meat cruelty. That was one of the meanest things I've ever seen.

I think that is on knockout of the year watch. Just because it's very unique too, like it's a very unique and cool one. So that definitely is going to get. It's on the short list. I put it there. We'll talk about where Alexa Grasso goes from here on to the next one in the morning. I don't think it's to a title shot. Shout out to Natalia Silva,

who basically immediately after this happened, got to posting. Like, the happiest trash talk you've ever seen. I don't know if you saw the tweet. She just looks like very happy. And she's like, oh, so I shouldn't talk shit. I'm next. I'm just like jovially celebrating that Macy Barber almost died.

But the other question on this co-meat event, AK is very obviously the other side of the ball here. And it is, where does Macy Barber go from here? Seven fight, Windstreet comes to a halt in dramatic, emphatic fashion. Still young, but this was the set up fight to get her over. And it did not go correct in any respect. So what's next from Macy Barber? Look, I think her ceiling's pretty clear.

I just think Alexa Graz is a way more skilled fighter. I think if she fought Natalia Silva, it would have been, I don't know, a knockout, but I think it would have been a pretty clear win from Natalia Silva. So, you know, I think you can comfortably place Macy outside of a pretty firm, like top four top four I would say Menon Natalia Silva Shepchenko and

Grasso and it's a big gap it's those four and then it's a pretty sizeable gap and that's okay and if you're Macy I actually think she can hang around long enough I hate to invoke this but McKenzie Dernstile and maybe somewhere down the road just kind of outlast some of these people ahead of her

because Menon's not not super young Valentina's not super young obviously Alex Grasso not old but you know she's up there in fight here She's 32. Natalia Silva is a sticking point. I mean, she could be around for like another decade. We don't know. But again, could Macy fight for a title someday?

Yeah, she can have to hang around. Like what happened to her tonight is I think why we also love her so much. Because one thing I was saying is people worried that Grasso was going to just have a fight where she does nothing. That really is not an option with Macy Barber. She's always coming forward. She's always looking to finish. I know she has a lot of decisions. But again, if you watch her fights, she really is genuinely always looking to finish.

Just because she can't doesn't mean she's not trying to. there's a lot of activity, a lot of aggression, a lot of coming forward. And that's kind of what cost her tonight. So she's going to have a place in the OC. I think they really like her. Fingers crossed, just her health is straightened out, and we can see her fight at least twice a year. I would love that because I think she's really entertaining and one of the more entertaining fighters in this division. So hopefully maybe takes the rest of the year off after this knockout, I will say.

If we don't see her until 2027, I'll certainly be happy about that. But she has a lot of time. So where does she go? I think she can still fight someone else in the top 10. I'd have to take a look. And yeah, she'll be hovering around there for a long time. I think she actually, health permitting, will have a very nice, successful career with the UFC

and maybe even sneak in a title shot somewhere still. Yeah, I would say she probably still will fight for a belt at some point. I don't know that she'll win it, but I was never really certain she would win a belt anyway. She should take a long time off. That's just a very scary knockout. You should not play around with those things. Again, young enough to continue to build and grow.

but no doubt that is a really, really devastating loss for her and her dreams. And be interested to see how she bounces back. AK, I'm excited for on to the next one. I think, I don't even know if we'll get to call to friends forever. I think I know where to go with Grasso. But AK, you know where we don't need to go anywhere? You don't need AI agents, which may sound weird coming from service now, the leader in AI agents. The truth is, AI agents need you.

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He also crushes our dreams, not even in his fun away, frankly, as Alexe Grasso did. Didn't even pretend to punch Nico Price, not once. And he could have. I meant to look this up, so I'm going to pull this right now. I'm going to go to UFC stats. I want to see if... Did he even throw a strike? Did he throw a strike?

Zero significant strikes landed in the final bout of his career. If you followed, I don't regret my choice to bet the KO and neither should you, so I won't be apologizing. But it is quite funny that Michael Kesa probably heard the rumors and was like, I'm not even going to throw a punch. I'm just going to choke this dude out. He basically instantaneously defeats Nico Price, goes out on top, gets the video package. Poor Nico Price is sitting there, or not poor, really, kind of your own fault. buddy is sitting there, drops the gloves, doesn't get a speech or anything. So, okay, talk to me about the Kiesa retirement, the double retirement, really.

Yeah. I mean, just perfection, perfectly booked. I think he could have done the same to Carlson Harris. That was like the original opponent before he was replaced by Nico Price on like a week's notice. It probably would have been similar, maybe not as fast. But I think he could have done the same way. So he would have the same moment.

Eosey did a great job here, man. I mean, Keiza has been one of their guys, like just from. from a front-facing standpoint. Speaks well, great interviews, good analyst, Ultimate Fighter of Royalty, you know, won season 15. The only live Ultimate Fighter they ever did, so he has that little feather in his cap. I don't remember if he got to top 10 as a lightweight.

He did beat Benile once. Maybe even then put him in the top 10. Anyway, flirting with the top 10 in two divisions, always nice to see, where to fight anyone, some exciting fights in there, a few fights of the nights. Has not a bonus. I was a say, do you get any bonus recently? But yeah, company man.

Perfect timing. You know, they like going to Seattle. You got the man from Washington himself, Mike Kesa. So it just couldn't have been booked better. It was a feel-good moment. They had the video package and everything. He's right in that hall of very good, right? You know, not a guy who should be put in there with, I don't know.

Another Washington night, Demetrius Johnson, for example. I would not put them anywhere close in the same tier. But I hope we, you know, this is just for a guy of Kesa's level, this is his Hall of Fame moment. It's out. It's forever. It's on taste. He can always look back at UFC Seattle in 2026 and have this moment. I'll always have that tribute video.

I'll always have this win. So that was nice. And as for Nico, man, that was so weird. Did you catch when they said in like they did the little Nico, they were showing him backstage before the fight, and they revealed there that he was going to retire? You didn't catch that. Oh, Jed, you're muted.

You're muted, I think. Did not catch that. Apparently he had said something earlier in the week about it as well. I had no idea. I had no idea. I thought he didn't say anything earlier in the week. I can't remember. I think it was Heidi.

I think it was Heidi. I think it was doing the little backstage info package. And they were just showing Nico warming up, you know. And that's where I hired for the first time. Oh, Nico also planning to hang up his gloves tonight. And I'm like, this is maybe the worst retirement announcement I've ever heard. Why would he do this? Doing it in a fight where he's definitely going to lose in someone else's hometown,

in a fight that has been billed as Keyes' retirement bout for months. Months this has been billed. And the week of, you take this on short notice, you say, yeah, I'm going to retire too. Listen, man, it sucks that he didn't get some time after. But really him and his people who signed up for this, you have no one to blame but yourselves. This was a very strange choice. So I hope Nico, like, I kind of want him to retire after his last fight. So it sounds weird to say that I hope he fights again.

But if he is trying to get that moment, then, yeah, I guess I hope he fights again. Yeah. Yeah, I just, you had to know this is common, which is, and like, look, you want to retire when you want to retire. This wants to be your exit, okay? But like, you can't really be surprised. This is being set up for this thing. And it would be weird to give Kees all of this and then go to you for any amount of time, right? You know, it just, it's, it's just not.

they when they do the Oscars the big awards go last the last one of the evening is not best short documentary you know that's and that that's where you are Nico and I'm sorry but like frankly you're not even really that so you know like it is just tough it's it feels a little tough but I think that probably could have seen this coming

good on Kiyasa happy exit another very happy moment Demetrius Johnson inducted into the Hall of Fame. I'll be honest, this one called me off guard. I thought DJ would go in eventually because they're not that much bad blood, but he's been a little outspoken against the UFC, and there's not like a rush to put him in, but sitting there cage out with his family,

Izzy in the main event, popped down, said, hey, shouted out to him. Alex Pereo took photos with him. Obviously, one of the most deserved entries of all time, unquestionably. But, okay, nice to see DJ. kind of weird, just sort of like out of nowhere feels like, but nice to see DJ in the Hall of Fame. Yeah, I don't know why we didn't see this coming though.

Like it does feel like it does feel like the right time, right? I mean, their retirement from one was what two years ago now. So he's kind of just been floating out there, fancy free, doing some solid podcasting during interviews, probably still doing a lot of gaming. Yeah, so why wouldn't he attend EOC Seattle to do this? Always had a good relationship, you know, part of the loan trade we ever saw in history. And there was never any real bad blood. Like just from a competitive standpoint, there was occasional shots of like,

oh, well, here's opportunities I didn't get there. And this is why I love one championship and blah, blah, blah. But I don't recall Dana ever, like, throwing him under the bus. I don't remember if he did one of those like, well, Demetrius didn't want to fight the best competition things. I don't think that happens. So, again, maybe there's- Yeah, it did.

It happened when he was still on the while. When he was in the U.C. Yeah, it was, I was saying strictly after. It feels like things got warmer. DJ doesn't want to fight TJ Dillishaw, So we're going to burn the division to the ground. I meant after he was no longer part of the OSCE's plans, Dana seemed pretty appreciative of what his contribution is in the company.

So yeah, this was always going to happen. Why not now? And well deserving. And I think you and me both agree part of any, for now, part of any discussion of the top five pound for proud of all time. I feel like DJ has to be in there. I think he's not your top five. It's a little undeniable.

It's not a top five. There's no reason to respect to your opinion. Wow. So, yeah, all-time great. Arguably the greatest fighters ever lived. Absolutely deserves it. Happy for him. Let's, I mean, we've got some comments about some of these preset stuff that I had built.

Did you have any thoughts on the bonuses, Jen? So good point. The bonuses. Let me pull them up because I, to speak Musa of Ignacio Bahamondes get Fight of the Night. performances go to Joe Pfeiffer and Alexa Grasso. Grasso very obviously deserves one. I think the Joe Piper bonus is the classic UFC given a bonus to the guy in the main event who finishes.

That's a big win. It's a big win. That's not as good as Larry and Douglas is like much more of a highlight real finish. Terrence McKinney finished a dude in four seconds. Casey O'Neill. Casey O'Neill blew up a lady. but the one to talk about is one of the last two points I have really in a tear. It's the Tifik Messiah of Ignacio Bahamanda's fight.

Mainly I just want to talk about this because we're going to get to questions in a moment and there are already questions pulled about some of the other stuff to talk about on the prelims. But, okay, this fight left me feeling really weird. It just left me feeling really weird. Tofique Messiah wins a unanimous decision, 29, 28. 29, 28, and 30, sorry, 29, 28, 29, 27 and 3027. So splits around, um, look like he was going to get finished in the second round, but treated, just straight up egregiously, unapologetically, double fence grab to not get

taken down in a sequence that we'll never know. You don't know what would have happened. If he had gotten taken down, maybe he survives. If he gets taken down, maybe Bahamondis puts the final nails in. it absolutely tangibly affects the fight. The ref does nothing. Pretty short time after that, Maasaya ends up on top,

slashes Bahamonday's open with, I think an elbow was what delivered the cut, but went to work for the remainder of the second round. Turn that round in my scorecard, officially a 10-8, even though I hate it. And functionally sort of won the fight there. Also threw a headbutt once he was on top. So a lot of,

Tom foolery from Tofique Maasiev and in my opinion I think there's a good argument that it directly resulted in him winning a fight instead of losing a fight and so this one feels a little weird A.K., how are you feeling about the prelim main event? Well,

let me tell us something. Ignacio owes Tevique Mesaev some things because I don't think he gets that $100,000 fight of the night bonus. Not a chance. If that cheating doesn't have I don't know what Bahamanda's contract is at. Let's say, you know, that cheating may have cost him like a 40k win bonus, maybe 50K

if we're being generous. I'm not sure I can confidently say that Bahamanda's more than that. I think it probably led to him not getting finished, which directly cost Bahamana's 25 finished bonus dollar. It did contested true. Okay, so 25 plus his win. Plus whatever his win bonuses. I don't know what that is.

I still think that's less than 100 grand. I still think. In total, it is less than a hundred grand, I guess. I think he came out of head financially. I think he came out ahead financially. Well, no, he's going to have a nasty cut that he has to deal with for some time. How many the UFC will pay for that? But that's not great.

But also the memories, you can't put a price on memories, Jed. You can't put a price on a good time. And we all had a good time. And, you know, his reputation now, you know, he has a fight of the night. He wouldn't have got a performance, like I said, it would have been Grasso and it would have been Joe Piper for the, you know, being the main event finisher guy. So I'm trying to look at this on the bright side because it does suck.

But no criticism of Messiah guys. We always say referee, yo, who was it? Who was the referee on that one? I'll find it right now. This was one Mr. Bobby, the wonderfully named Bobby Wombacher. Great name. Maybe not the best. Silent loser.

It's my show and I'm, I do whatever the hell I want. That was referring. For the podcast, those, for a comment that was made. Anyway, but yeah, not the greatest. A cool name, Bobby Wanbacher, not the greatest officiating moment right there. Yeah. Cheat. Always cheat.

Always cheat. Never going to get punished for it. Also, he may have tried to bite him. I didn't see that, but I saw that around a lot. And somebody threw in the comments, too. And, Tafik, Mersai sort of has that rep anyway. Yeah, tough, tough one in that regard. the fight was quite fun

if you can set that aside but Bahamond has got to feel a little bit hard done by in that one so tough scenes you know the rest of the card we didn't talk about some other stuff in the main card so let me just run down some results

and we'll just fire into questions for the remainder of the show I did briefly mention Larry and Douglas knocked out Julian Arrosso quite a good performance from the debutante another debutante who also had a good performance usually Belgariwi defeats Mansoor Abdul Malik.

Another maybe not the best fight IQ performance from Abdul Malik there. Terrence McKinney does a Terrence McKinney thing. He runs right over Kyle Nelson in 24 seconds. Amazing. And once again, does not get a performance. Still doesn't get a bonus. At least 25.

Which is incredible bit. Insane. It's such a good bit and they're making, they're like joking about it on the broadcast. How does he not have a bonus? Got and get one tonight. All of his wins are first round finishes in the UFC. Eight.

Eight wins the EBC all first round finishes. No official. No one of the first time getting that 25K bonus. Lance Gibson finished Chase Hooper. A little bit of controversy there. I don't think so. I think it's a good stop. I think the stoppage is fine.

Oh, yeah. Maybe a touch early, but nothing to cry about. But the Seattle fans certainly did cry about it. I told them found out that our good Canadian boy, Lance, was also born. Also was born right around. Oh, this guy's okay. Oh, it's fun. Yay. I love the NBA fans are the best. Tauroo Fortune loses and then beats Marcine Tibera, which we have a question about that.

So we'll talk about that in the moment by decision in the heavy-weightiest fight of all time. And the only bet I succeeded on tonight. I did quite poorly in the betting end of things. Casey O'Neill back in a big way, knocks out Gabriela Fernandez. Navo Sterling gets his first finish in the U.C. stopping Bruno Lopez. Ricky Simone fights to a draw with Adrian Yanez in a fight that we will also talk about in just a moment and alexia tynara defeats bruno brazil in the opener of the evening a k we've been going almost an hour we have we have and honestly there's still a bunch of

specific fights to speak about not even to mention we've got some r if that we could get involved in i think we got to run through some of these super chats we we do and i'm also getting yelled at so we're going to pop as did i did you okay um i disagree with that but i'm not in charge of that There's things to do. Things to do. I'm going to. We discussed this. Yeah.

Yes. I'm just going through. Oh, we got to talk with this. So we do have to talk about Bruce Buffer made the biggest faux pa arguably of his entire career. Marcine Tyborrow was announced as the winner. So much so that Tyro Fortune left the KJK was walking back. It was very sad. The crowd booed.

He just thought he lost. He just thought he lost. I didn't do enough. So did I. I mean, I didn't think he should have lost. but it was real weird. He was like, damn, I guess I don't know how I lost that first round, but I guess I didn't do enough.

Yeah. And then the camera just lingered on Marlene Taiburo, who looked real curious until it finally became clear that Buffer just straight up read the score. Wrong? I had five bucks on Taibura and I was like excited and I was like, that can't be right. How could you?

I was like, how could he have won the first round? There's no criteria under which you won the first round. Yeah. So wild times there. Sorry. But, you know, it all came out in the wash, deeply funny. A lot of weird things happened

that evening. We do have a super chat from Ace Booky. Izzy can't seem to stay locked in really strange. You could have easily won that fight. Yeah. That's just part of getting old, I think. AC's almost 37, and he's at almost 120 pro fights. He only got so many in you, unfortunately.

Unfortunately, a double gift here from our man, Orthon Kohamon. I apologize if I screwed that up at all. Thank you for that. And then for this one, the Bahamondays DQ win Nico's retirement ignored Yeah

DQ win That was a UD my friend You may have a decision I mean he arguably He couldn't really get DQ'd win But it was just a real weird situation Tough scenes for Bahamond days From our buddy Garrett

My wife loves Grasso Heaps Barber She was pumped on that Best card of the year Grasso finish of the year We don't do a finish of the year award Because we bifurcate them but like I said, I think she might be the frontrunner

for knockout of the year right now. Yeah, she might need her own category. It was such a strange. If she doesn't, she's definitely going to get in the like odds and ends year end of awards thing that we do for just like weirdest thing of the year. That is the visual of the year. That and that and Cody Garbrandt puking into a bucket, which we actually didn't get to see on camera.

So we did not get to see that on camera. We only have beautiful pictures from camera gentleman's name. But yeah, that was the on camera moment of the year. I'm not just going to take a while to shake that up. Shout out lazy bed for a gifted sub. Shout out Enigma Master. The best. For five gifted subs.

Way to go, boys. From this man who's a name I just won't say, medjshu.com, decent website. How long has the UFC sat on PV's part of the DJ Hall of Fame announcement? So that was the funniest part of the Hall of Fame announcement is it's pretty clear that they pulled videos, that they've had this in the can for a long time. That was like 24-year-old page. Van Zand. That was a long time. I had to think, and Henry Sehudo as well, it was very young Henry Sehudo.

I had to think those are part of a previous video. I imagine people, you guys are hardcore. You must have seen previous videos, but they had to use this footage just like talking, like DJ hype packages or something. It must have just been that, yeah. That was really fun. Yeah, that was, it was just like why you, I think in Slack, like, why is Paige Van Zand?

And he was like, this is old. She hasn't been fighter in a long time. Not necessarily. That's true. I mean, close out our super chats from Chase. Izzy versus Dom Reyes. I mean, if we're going to do it, they're worse. I think Dom's booked.

This should be, they should do that in, obviously, in Australia or New Zealand. And again, they should do just like with Nico Price. Dom should be like, I'm retiring too. Like retiring about it. And Tom's like, wait, no, what about me? I beat John Jones. Well, winner and loser leaves town match. Everybody just leaves town.

I like that. I do before we get out of here I mean one shout out to Casey O'Neill because Casey that was a terrific comeback we do gotta talk about the Simone Yanyas fight right like that was nuts I was not scoring closely unfortunately

so I don't know if I can join in the outrage but pretty vocal from the anime community that something went wrong there especially with the way it ended with Yanya's really being seconds away from a finish from a finish And apparently he needed it. And frankly, if it had been waved off, I'm sure Ricky wouldn't have been happy about it. I don't know if fans would have complained that much if that got stopped at that time.

I think everybody would have been okay because I think everybody thought he's winning the fight anyway. And then it would have come out that that was actually hugely substantive. Not one judge didn't score the third round of 10-8, which I think is like genuinely indefensible. If you want to be very, very generous, maybe you can give Ricky two. I don't think that there's, I think that fight is close to a 30, 26 for Yanyes, than it is a 28, 28. Genuinely floored. There was one of the few times where I like absolutely did not see the outcome coming.

So tough, tough night for Eugene and Yanis, who I thought put on a very, very good performance. And a really fun fight. We had some good stuff going. Yeah. So that would have just made it a draw, a unanimous draw, right? If they'd give them a 10. Yeah. It just doesn't change it.

You know, it wouldn't have changed anything, but like, you should, you should know how to score. And yes, by every definition of the scoring, that's a 108. Yeah. So, yeah. Also from Ortho, from Orthoan co-Hamon, again, I want to work with MMAF or fights. Just, soon to be rebranded, just fights. If PFL doesn't beat you to it. If you all doesn't.

They, look, PFL take my ideas. Put Johnny Ebblin in fights. That'd be doing a lot better. I think we can get out of here. here let me pull let me figure out how to do the media assets and as we do i will note arm and sarovic and successfully took down georgio polis and mostly if you all haven't checked out raf let me encourage you to check out raf because i think it's a good program i've i've really enjoyed it um so if you have any passing interest in wrestling i'd say do that uh you can go watch the

replay of pfl or ron and you can follow along with the rest of our coverage right here on our YouTube channel over at MVayFunding.com. A.K. It's a great website. You and me, buddy, tomorrow. On to the next one. And then we're on to the next one is bad. It's UFC Vegas something

terrible. Remember, frankly? We'll talk about it. We'll see. We're going to talk about it tomorrow. We're going to talk about it. So, okay. In the meantime, thank you for joining us this evening. Hope you enjoyed the fights. You won't deal with my nonsense.

Because we should have real experience instead of me. Well, I get, my name. Yeah, happy. Happy birthday, I can. We're listening to the Vox Media Podcast Network. Getting ready for a game means being ready for anything. Like packing a spare stick. I like to be prepared.

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