MMA Fighting - UFC St. Louis Post-Fight Show | Reaction To Derrick Lewis' Big KO, Buckley's Win & McGregor Callout

Episode Date: May 12, 2024

Derrick Lewis showed his knockout power, grappling chops, and after knocking out Rodrigo Nascimento, showed his backside to the St. Louis crowd to end Saturday's UFC St. Louis card with the fans on their feet. Following the promotion's latest Fight Night event, MMA Fighting's Mike Heck, Jed Meshew, and Eric Jackman react to the card, Lewis' big knockout of Nascimento and where he goes in this heavyweight division. Additionally, they discuss Joaquin Buckley's impressive co-main event win over Nursulton Ruziboev and his callout of Conor McGregor, Robelis Despaigne getting his first loss in lopsided fashion, bonus winners, and much more. Follow Mike Heck: @MikeHeck_JR Follow Jed Meshew: @JedKMeshew Follow Eric Jackman: @NewYorkRic Subscribe to MMA Fighting Check out our full video catalog Like MMA Fighting on Facebook Follow on Twitter Read More: http://www.mmafighting.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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and got to show one quarter of the arena, his hind parts after a win over Rodrigo Nassimento. I mean, it just perfectly capped off a fun, sort of weird, interesting fight card for the Ultimate Fighting Championship as we welcome you to the UFC St. Louis post-fight show here at Mnambayfighton.com. I am Mike Heck. Jed Mishu is here, Mr. Nogray area himself. Hello, Jed. Hello, Mike. Sorry, I'm also multitasking and letting the brilliance of Joaquin Buckley wash over me as I just bow to his genius. Oh, I would say there's a very, very good chance. I'd say it's like minus 900 that that will be our largest segment in terms of time today, but we'll get to that in a moment.

What are talking about? Mythical Derek Lewis, baby. Yeah, I mean, we'll talk about Derek Lewis, of course. But then we're going to get to Joaquin Buckley, I'm sure. He was a big show stealer on this card. And joining us to talk about that and much more New York Rick back on the post-fight show. And it's always a true pleasure when that happens. How are we doing, sir?

Blessed to be here on the back end of a great Derek Lewis performance and just a banger from Joachian Buckley and great use of his mic time. So I'm excited to be here and talk about that with you, boys. Crazy. Okay. I'm popping over to a caffeinated beverage right now because we're going to get into this in a little bit. So I want to warm it up. Let's talk about Derek Lewis first because he just goes out and does everything he needs to do.

Derek Lewis has put himself in a position where opponents really don't matter. Rankings don't matter. Title runs don't matter. People just love him. They love him showing up to Media Day on Wednesday. They just want to hear the man speak. Maybe even throw out a first pitch for their hometown baseball team before. going and watching him compete inside the Octagon.

And he knocks out Rodrigo Nassimento in the third round. I don't think a lot of people were too surprised by that. And then he has the big celebration. Good post-fight speech with Michael Bisbing. He's probably going to get a couple of free alcoholic beverage out of Mr. Bisbing as well. So Jed, I'll begin with you. What do we grade Derek Lewis tonight?

Derek Lewis is beyond things like great. He exists in his own stratosphere. It doesn't matter. And he knows that as well. He's already kind of said, I fight for the money now, not really caring about the title such that he ever did, but he does want to, you know, be better. He's fighting for himself in these ways. And we don't need to give him a score because who cares? Honestly, who cares?

He did the thing. He did exactly what we wanted him to do, what this card was functionally built around the idea that he would do of, hey, Derek Lewis, just come in, knock some dude out. take your pants off do something zany say some cool stuff on the mic have everybody leave here happy we finally bring an event back to st louis the first time in forever

let's send people out on a high note and he did that there were parts when it looked like maybe he wouldn't do it but he ultimately comes through does it mythical third round derrick lewis shines again just one of the great mythical fighters of the sport and it was awesome so props to you Derek Lewis.

Like, that was way to go. New York, there's just some fighters that you just have a good time when they come on and they do their thing. And Derek Lewis just seems like one of those guys. There's just most, pretty much anybody who watched that event, no matter how they felt about the rest of the card, if you went to the main event and got through that third round,

watched Derek Lewis knockout Rodrigo Nassimento and like see the celebration, everything that happened after the fact, you had a smile on your face. You felt pretty good about things. So Derek Lewis gets it done. Your reaction. Yeah, just Derek Lewis. It was just a very Derek Lewis performance.

Like first two rounds, randomly shooting for takedowns, kind of a bit of a slog, sloppy. And then he finds the off button as he is want to do and takes off his pants and moons the crowd and gets on the mic and says some outlandish stuff. And everybody goes home happy. So this is the Derek Lewis experience. And he executed it to perfection tonight.

It was good stuff. Quote from the post-fight speech you can find on our social channel. Couldn't let no taxi cab driver from Brazil beat me. This is my first time ever hearing of that guy. It was a great line. Terrific. This is my first time ever hearing of that guy is literally what he says coming in and out of every single fight. And it's not a gimmick.

He truly doesn't know who anybody, any of these people are. He's like Matt calls him. Makes sense. Yeah, but what's he going to do differently if he has heard of the guy, right? Derek Lewis' fighting style is not adapted by any opponent based on a game plan. Like, does he have to hear of these guys? Does he have to do research? It's kind of just show up and swing the things like he does.

So, yeah, today was Greco Roman Derek. N-C-A-A-Darick. As he said before, he's the best blue belt in Texas. So let's not denigrate his grappling because he's, he's, He's quite proficient. The shorts came off. I would agree. The shorts come off.

And then this, I don't remember him doing this before, but Rodrigo Nassimento is on the ground, referee standing over him. And after he moves the shorts, he fans Rodrigo Nassimento with the dirty shorts, which I thought was very funny as well. I can't lie. It's very gentlemanly. There were a few extras. He's, he's elevating the balls was hot shorts off game now.

Now there's the fanning of the opponent. Now there's the throwing the cup has been done before, but now there's a level of now tossing into the media. And then the mooning the crowd, like he is just continuing to escalate what started with the balls are hot. And I'm all for it. Like it seems like people are having a good time with it. I certainly enjoyed it.

So shout out to him and to the gentleman who caught the cup and celebrated like, you know, he won a Super Bowl. Shout out to him as well. I mean, I talk about like how the rankings and stuff don't matter with Derek because you just see him on a poster. You're like, oh, I mean, this is going to be fun.

You know, Derek Lewis is fighting, but and it's just weird to do a matchmaking show and have to matchmaking for Derek Lewis, just knowing that none of that matters. But to me, I just, we have to see the Charzino fight. That's just the way we have to do it. I don't think it's any secret where I'm going with this. What would you like to see, New York, Rick?

Does it even matter who it is? No, it doesn't matter. Name a heavyweight. Taito Ivasa, anybody who's going to stand and throw hands with Derek Lewis, let's do it. It doesn't matter if he's fought them before. It doesn't matter if they're highly, rank, doesn't matter if they're lowly ranked, doesn't matter if they're unranked. If you will stand

and trade with Derek Lewis, I will watch you fight and I will watch Derek fight you. So name them and I'm in. Jed, what would you like to see? I mean, who's not down for the Giusea fight at this point, particularly with Robelis taking the L? There's no other fight that makes sense for either man. Just finally pull the trigger on it. But it honestly, by the same token, doesn't matter. Like, just don't give him a guy named Sergey, and it's fine. As long as you're not trying to do what the coward Rodrigo Nassimento tried to do with the takedowns. That's not what we're here for when Derek Lewis is involved. We're here for the nonsense and give me someone who will, you know, engage in the nonsense with him. Feed the coward Waldo Cortez-A-Costa to Derek Lewis.

He's just going to say after that absolutely shameful performance from him, which I'm sure we'll talk about. I'm sure we're going. Oh, yeah, there's a very real chance we're going to talk about that. So Derek Lewis gets in the wind calm. But let's go to why everybody's here, because people have been hitting me up for the last hour or so being like, when is the post-fight show happening? When are you guys going to talk about this? People were like legit thinking of Jed and I as Joachim Buckley had a microphone being held in his face by Michael Biswick. They're waiting for our reaction to everything that transpires. So let me set the table beautifully. UFC Atlantic City happens, not all that long ago. And Joachim Buckley goes out and just beats the hell out of Ascenti Lucke, gets the biggest

win of his career. He's now going to be a rank guy in a pretty deep division and gets on the microphone, doesn't call it a name, says, I'm calling out Anheiser Bush. But basically just like as a promo, I want to fight in St. Louis. this is what I want to do. Shows up at UFC 300 during the press conference, ill-timed in a lot of people's eyes, yells at Dana during the presser.

I want to be the main event of UFC St. Louis. Derek Lewis doesn't want to be the main event. Let's just do this. And Dana was just like, no, bye-bye. We're wrapping up this press conference. He ends up getting on this card, and he gets to fight near Sultan Ruudzibayev, guy with a nine-fight winning streak,

tall, dangerous guy who's looked really, really good as of late. and Joaquin is sort of a make or break moment for him he needs to go out and deliver performance goes out win some rounds wins the third round looked like he was just gonna there's points where he could have finished the fight Keith Peterson was just taking in all the violence tonight didn't want to stop any fights

I don't know if he was getting paid by the minute or whatnot but walking Bucket gets a big win St. Louis crowd is screaming his name everything's coming up Buckley here every single thing is coming up Buckley It's an A plus night for him. And then he's asked the big question. He's asked the big question.

What do you want next? Because he knows Michael Bisbing's going to ask him. And there were lots of names there. Ian Gary, Colby, Shafcott, MVP. The list goes on and on and on and on. And Joaquin Buckley says, there's only one name to call out. It's a big, mighty name. It's Connor McGregor.

And the collective groans amongst the MMA community has been incredible. credible, myself included, but you can even hear it in the St. Louis crowd when he said Connor McGregor's name. They were screaming, yelling, and jumping, and everyone was having a great time. And then he said Connor's name. And it was like, it was like a balloon deflating in that building, even though they're still like, yeah, we love you, Joaqu, you could just feel the energy levels leave. So Jed, I will begin with you here. We're waiting for this moment. Could could Joaquin deliver in this pivotal spot? Because if he lost this fight, it would have been real bad for him.

But winning and doing the thing on the microphone, it almost evened out a lot of the bad plays he was doing. I didn't even mention his M.A.R appearance, which was also not great. It would have canceled a lot of this stuff out. He was all looking good. And then he says Connor's name and then goes on. And by the way, let me also just say this before I let you react to this. Everything before that point was excellent from Joaquin Buckley.

about his grandmother, the ALS. Everything was fantastic up until the Connor call up. But Jed, he says Connor's name. What is your reaction to this? Well, it was a tough beat for me because I was in our Slack being like, oh, look at Joaquin Buckley. He's doing okay on the microphone. The grandmother ALS stuff was like, that was perfect.

Hey, if you're from St. Louis stand up, it's not just me that brought this here. Y'all brought this here. We did this. Like, all of that was good. And then it's like watching someone go through, you know, the rings and they hit the iron cross and they hit all the cool things. And then the dismount, they just face plant dead on. Like, okay, well, you score two and you no longer get to win a medal. Like, it was just, you can't do that.

And there are some people who are trying to defend this because I don't, I genuinely don't know why. It's, we just talk about all the time, Mike, like, you have so very few opportunities to exercise any level. of controller agency over your career and you just spent the biggest moment of your career to this point. Maybe this win is not maybe as meaningful as the Lucke one because that gets you obviously a ranking, but this is in your hometown.

The crowd popped for him. I was a little surprised at how over he was. I know this is in St. Louis, but still, like, he was very over there in a way that I kind of didn't anticipate and they are with him for all of this. And like you said, they can't even support it because it's just stupid. It's never like you know, you know that that fight is never going to happen.

And this is not a situation where it's, well, it can never happen if I don't call for it. No, it can just never happen. There is a zero percent chance. And so instead of taking the time to dictate your future in the welterweight division, which you didn't do for this one, you just called for this wake like this fight. and all we did was talk about how this is a very limited upside fight for you. Yes, you are getting to fight in St. Louis. You're fighting a tough dude who no one knows about,

which is like the exact opposite of what you want to do. Now you've done the same thing. You've given the UFC no real reason to get behind you in a meaningful way. You've exercised no control over where your career is going. And one of the few times you have an opportunity to do that. If he had gotten out there and been like, hey, UFC's coming to Perth. there's an Aussie dude out there who's like a top six or whatever he's ranked and i would like to get in there with jackdilla madalena he's not quite in the moot he can't quite get into a title fight right now i want to make there let me come to perth i'll fight jackdela you know what's happening he's fighting jackdela in perth that's what's going to happen for him now who the hell knows he might have to fight some other unnamed uzbek dude and just like keep running the risk of getting gassed up by somebody it's so bad and it's so bad and it's so infuriating to watch this dude get the ball to the five-yard line and then just punt it into

the end zone for a turnover. New York Creek, so we were talking a little bit before this. New York Creek doesn't agree necessarily with what we're saying. He's on a completely, he's looking this through a different lens. So New York, please. Not even a little. Why was this an amazing callout from walking Buckley? No, please, please.

don't put those words in my mouth. It was not an amazing call out by any means. Let me preface this by saying like, I think Joaquin Buckley's like a little bit goofy. Like I don't think I'm going too far out of bounds to say that he's just a little bit goofy. He does stuff that's just a little bit random and doesn't really like hit for me. It doesn't do it for me personally. But,

but this idea that like the only time you can convert any cash, any cash a into getting what you want is when you have that microphone. after the fight is kind of just not real and not accurate. Like the conversion rate on that is not high enough for me to believe that like, yeah, you really've got this one opportunity when you hop on the mic. And if you say that magic name that really works for everybody, you're going to get it. I've just not seen that to be true. It's just not actually true.

Literally tonight, Bryce Mitchell got a fight booked functionally with Sean Woodson. Literally tonight that happened. That fight is booked now on Twitter. Is that fight booked? Is that fight going to happen? No, but like acting as if this doesn't ever. happened with literally an hour before. That's the problem.

You're reacting to the, yeah, I accepted your fight on Twitter. And then if it doesn't happen, it doesn't happen. Moikano's been calling for Patty for a lifetime every time he gets a microphone. If he gets Patty, yeah, great. That's successful. If he doesn't, then we're not going to go back and do an accounting of all the times that he called for him and didn't get him. You're just going to go, well, he wasted the mic time.

The reality is those conversions are not like super high. Like there's just not a reality. Also, secondarily, like, that's not the end of, that's not the end of his conversation with the UFC. Like it does it's not he has the mic and calls somebody and then all of a sudden like there's no negotiation going on behind the scenes. He can't or his manager can't call for Jack Della Madalena and get that fight to the point where he went onto a microphone at the biggest event of USC 300 at the press conference and demanded he gets the headlining spot and didn't get it. He doesn't have that kind of power. He doesn't have that kind of cachet where he can call his shot. like that. And if he asked for XYZ opponent, there's really no guarantee that if he hops on the

mic, he gets it. So alternatively, knowing that you're Joaquin Buckley and not Connor McGregor and not somebody like Nate Diaz who can kind of dictate your future in that way, getting the most attention on what you're doing isn't a bad strategy. Now, again, let me preface this. I think it's goofy. It doesn't work for me. I'm not interested in it. But there are enough people talking about Joaquin Buckley and what he said and creating graphics for it and spreading the word, that a ho-hum call out of some seventh-ranked guy isn't necessarily the best thing if he's not guaranteed to get that seventh-ranked guy. You will never be able to convince me that this idea that like the magic microphone for guys like Joaquin Buckley is going to guarantee that he gets that fight.

It's just not true. It is not true. Will maybe that seventh-rank guy tweet him and be like, yeah, it's on, sign the deal? Sure. Does that mean they're ultimately going to fight? No, it doesn't. And it's just not a real thing. That's the thing though, Rick. I've never in any place that I say, yes, you do this and you are guaranteed to do this. But it is exercising some agency as opposed to whatever the UFC is going to give you. You're absolutely right. He doesn't guarantee him shit. Oh, this is my time, baby. If you're right, it doesn't guarantee him shit. But being the 85th dude to call out Connor doesn't guarantee him anything other than a night of us saying that and everyone would be like, what a douche.

Like, that was lame of him to be the inth dude who does that. And yes, we are talking about it. But as I made the point to someone else we were talking privately, we'd be talking about if he shit his pants. I don't think it's a good idea to go out there and take a dump in the middle of the cage just because we'd be talking about it. Like, it's such a ridiculous platform to be on him. Well, we're talking about it more than they would.

It's literally what Derek Lewis does. It's an ideal. It's literally what, like, Derek Lewis's old gimmick that we're all enjoying. at the moment is to do that. Like is to do exactly what he does that. Like is to do exactly what he does. He's not shitting himself. He's taking his pants off.

I agree. If he wants to take his pants off, awesome. But don't check yourself. So walking Buckley took his pants off instead. Then then we're going to celebrate. That is a substantially better post-fight effort. It's just silly. It's just silly.

It's a bit of the post-fight callout is just like way overblown. He could, you're, you're like, why could he not go to Dana White or the matchmakers and say, you know, I actually do want JDM. Hey, serious moment here for a second. Get me JDM. He can. So why does he have to capitalize on that mic moment to get the tweet from JDM?

Because it is better to get the tweet. It is better to get any amount of public energy behind a fight. More people will talk about the Connor. I missed you. What did you say? More people will talk about the random Connor McGregor call out. More people will give attention to that. It will be the umpteenth one.

It will be the millionth one. It will continue to drive more attention than a ho-humed call. out of some ranked guy that you can do behind the scenes. There's nothing precluding it. He can call out JDM. He can go to this post-fight press conference right now and be like, hey, you know, that was for the show. I was sitting there with the mic and it was hot and the crowd's in front of me.

Calmer moment. I want JDM, like realistically. Or somebody asked him in a post-pipe press conference. You're not going to get Connor McGregor. Who do you actually want? Who's a realistic opponent for you? JDM, give them to me. And everything's fine.

And we move on. It's not, it's not some like silver bullet, magic, magic bullet, rather, that like, you call somebody out in the post fight and all of a sudden your fortune is set. It's fine. Ken, no one has ever said that it guarantees. But the idea that it does not at all play a factor is objectively incorrect. It does. Objectively, we have seen people do this successfully.

Allah Mohammed still hasn't gotten a title shot. Still has not gotten a title shot. So what does that prove? He has made. What does Balala have to do with it? an awful callouts after every one of his fights every single one he has made an awful call So doesn't this prove my point? No, she hasn't called on Leon, which has actually been bad.

What I'm saying? No, no, no, no, no, he's called for all those fights. It proves my point. No, no, no, no, your point is no. Your point is, no, your point was it means nothing. Doesn't move you forwards, doesn't move you backwards. No, that's not my point. My point is, no, no, no, no, you're misunderstanding. My point is, if it's ultimately not some kind of essential guarantee, if it is ultimately

not something that you're guaranteed to get, get the most attention. Do what will get you the most attention, period. That is the move. If you can behind the scenes or even again at the post-fight press conference or elsewhere, then say, actually, look, obviously I know I'm not going to get Connor McGregor. That was for TV. Get me JDM. Fine.

It's the same thing. It's fine. It doesn't need to be in that full. him in that moment at that exact thing. To your point, Balal's calling for people and not getting them. Exactly. It doesn't convert.

He's fighting backwards. That's the thing. He calls out Usman or Colby and then he fights Sean Brady. And yes, he wins that fight. But still, like, that's what he was getting. He was getting Jeff Neal and getting Vicente Lucke. What he deserved better. But he wouldn't call up the right person to get him.

Okay. So you have to call out the exact right person that the U.S. If he called out Hamzaa Chama, if he called out Hamzaa Chama, Chimaeif after either of those wins over Jeff Dealer Vizente Leuke, he would have gotten Hamzat Shama. One thousand to death. But it can't be Kamaru because Kamaru who fought Hamzat, that's not the same. Who is the champion?

It just doesn't make sense. Who is the champion? He called for a tight shot after being like the 11th right. Dude. You are. I think you're being intentionally obtuse about this, Rick. I'm not. I think you are vastly overestimating this idea of like nailing this one person in a

misinterpreting what we're saying. No, you're misinterpreting what we're saying. I don't, maybe I'm misinterpret what you're saying. I'm saying just because you call out a guy doesn't necessarily mean that you get it. Look at what JDM did after he beat Gilbert Burns. Did he call Connor McGregor to get attention? No. He called the fucking Hamza or Shafcott Rockmanoff.

And we, everybody around the MMA community praised him unanimously. There's not one person who was like, oh, this is bad use of the microphone. We were like, damn, this guy's again. He might not get this fight, but he could. And if he does, like, I want to watch it. What he built up just for that callout was fantastic. He became, even after Sean O'Malley put on the performance that he put on, even after MVP made his debut, even after Dustin Freakin Porier went out there and busted

up Benoit Santadie, still one of the top storylines coming out of UFC 299 was JDM's comeback whenever Gilbert Burns. But not only that, the fact. that he called out the fucking out. Yeah, I don't agree with that. I don't remember having that kind of show. It didn't have that kind of post-like jacked. It just did. Yes, it did. Yes, it did. It absolutely did. Nobody remembers this. Absolutely did. When? I think we just aren't going to agree on this because fundamentally part of what you were

saying, Rick, I think, if I'm wrong, feel free to correct, is it just like Max's attention is the best. Whereas again, I just disagree fundamentally with that. I understand that. I understand that as like a premise of marketing, but like, I don't know, I think bad attention is bad attention. My question for you, and I'm genuinely interested in this, so I referenced it before,

Sean Woodson calls out Bryce Mitchell. Now, that fight may not end up getting booked. However, do it in the other side. If Sean Woodson goes out there and calls out Connor McGregor, maybe we talk about a little more because Connor is the biggest star in the sport and that's a thing that happens. Yeah.

For me, I am more interested in him calling out Bryce Mitchell and Bryce Mitchell responding because now I am thinking about a fight with him that I would not have thought about previously and then I probably like I'm not going to spend a ton of time because Bryce Mitchell or Sean Woodson. But that is, that's a thing that we may get in actuality and I am now thinking as opposed to my two reactions to the call out of McGregor are that's stupid. And if you are in a prime position, that's real stupid. I wish you did better. like because we made to we are talking about it now because there's not like frankly a whole ton of stuff to talk about tonight but like the conversation ends in the next three hours no one will talk about this ever again and so whereas like next week i might think oh shon what's in the show no you will get to look you won't you won't you won't think about Sean Woodson and Bryce Mitchell Mitchell Mitchell I will think about exactly the same amount of times I will think about about Connor McGregor versus that's right walking that's right that's right so so because

you'll think about them exactly equal, which is not much at all, then that makes the point, yes? Like, it's not that significant. It doesn't really- That's the thing. I think that makes the point for me. Because if they are equal, one of these has at least in some way potentially manifested a real thing for fighter X down the line, whereas the other has no chance of doing that. And that's my point. Again, I'm not saying that it is you only have to, and this will absolutely, I'm saying that you have limited time and this is a way to make something happen.

It is not a guarantee, but you have done nothing by calling Connor except for us mocking you for the evening, which again, per marketing, maybe that has some value. I just disagree that that is meaningful good value. Let me simplify my point because I feel like it's getting a little bit confused. A fighter, the caliber and standing in the company of Joaquin Buckley isn't calling his shot, period. Like, that's just not how it works. And so ultimately, this idea that it's going to advance you like a little. little bit closer, I just don't agree with it. I just don't think it happens.

Like, that fight will potentially be proposed to him. Maybe it won't, maybe it will, but I don't think it will hinge upon that call out. When you're getting to the upper echelon, when you are getting to the level of the Connor McGregors or Michael Chandler's, those level of fighters, then the use of the mic time, I think, is more important. I would still say that it is overestimated to a high degree by many people in the MMA space, but more significant. I just don't see enough of a huge return that I would rather personally, I would rather have the attention.

I would rather at least even if it's fleeting, even if it's for that night, even if it's for everybody to say, this is goofy. Again, I will restate my position. I think it is extremely goofy and it is not for me. But I think that is a better strategy wholesale. That's it. Like, Joaquin Buckley is not in position to really call the shock. I get it. I just think we were just fundamentally opposite here and we're never going to agree.

Oh, yeah. We're not even going to mean the middle here. It's just not happening. And that's fine. And, you know, at the end of the day, wouldn't have mattered anyway because Derek Lewis stole all his shine anyways with what he did post-fight. So it doesn't matter if he made the perfect call.

If he called MVP in Manchester and MVP tweeted him back, I could have one million percent see that happening. And I actually think that's what he should have done. I said he should have done that after the Lucke win. But it didn't matter. Why can he fight MVP though? He can still fight MVP and he can still fight JDM. It could happen.

it could. It could. And it's not going to not because he didn't call him out in the post fight. Right. But I think the percentages drop a little bit is what I'm trying to say. Because it looks bad when you, when the lights are on you brightest and you use your moment to do something. And then you do interviews after and you're like, nah, I made a mistake. I actually want this.

You need to hit it on that spot. I honestly need to hit it if I've ever seen a crowd like react mid-in-end-in-a-old. interview negatively to a guy that was so bad. Like that's an impressive feat to be like, oh, hell yeah. Stand up St. Louis. And then they're like, oh. His. Like his own crowd kind of turned out.

Yeah. Oh, it was so bad. I'll never, I'll never forget that sound. That was like the ground ball back to Keith Folk in the World Series, whether Red sucks or brother the world series. That's like Keith Folk instead of underhitting the ball to the first to the first basement, he throws the ball into the crowd. And the card was going on a big run.

It was just freaking. It was just so funny to hear it. I'm like, all right. Here's your chance. Like, it's all right there for you, O'Kee. Come on, man. Do the thing. Do it.

Please. And he called Connor and I was like, oh, my God. And just the sound of that crowd just spoke. It just spoke. It was hilarious. We have bonuses, guys. We have bonuses. Fucking,

because you shouldn't get lost in the sauce. These are the easiest bonuses of all time, no? Easiest bonuses in the world. Just don't want to get lost in the sauce. Well done, Joaquin Buckley, like, for the fight. There were parts of it that I didn't love, but like you took on a, we talked about it beforehand. This is a tough opponent, not a huge name, a lot of risk, minimal reward. And you came out as well as you could from the fight part of it.

Like you did have a good job on a quick turnaround in the co-main event of your hometown. Sure, you made the crowd kind of grown, but overall, still well done. And you deserve your praise for that. completely agree it was uh it was an a plus night for him up until he said Connor and then called Connor's ancestors hose and then uh yeah that's kind of how that all went but what are the bonus not into that part of it either but that's a whole separate thing yeah it wasn't great boarding for flight 246 to Toronto is delayed 50 minutes oh what sounds like ojo time play ojo great idea feel the fun with all the latest slots in live casino games and with no

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good ones here. Is there a fight of the night? Is there not a fight in the night? That's a question as well. There's a fight of the night. There sure is. Yeah, it's Waters, right? And yeah, waters golf is for sure fighting the night. Yep. And only two of these finishes. What was the other crazy knockout? Oh, Alberg and Rebovich. James McKinney is still laying against the cage. Revovich and Olavich and Olives. and the waters and golf fight. Correct. Correct.

What? Riebevich did not get a bonus. What? You're kidding. I swear to all that is holy. Unless they're making a new graphic. Carlos Olberg gets a bonus. The 39-year-old gentleman himself, Carlos Diego Ferreira.

I'm with that. I was about to say that sucks for CDF. because, like, he deserves some action, but clearly he was not going to win a performance bonus. Still shouldn't have gotten it. I mean, I really, most of the time, I really cut, like, I'm not very, like, up and down about bonuses. Like, I'm kind of like, okay, like, you know,

it could have gone to here, got to here. Rebovich not getting a bonus is, like, stupid. It's the dumbest thing that happened tonight. That's one of the, that is going to be, that is going to be in the knockout of the year conversation at the end of the year. He slums against the cage. He's the best knockout of the year of tonight.

Yeah. Terrence McKin. That's crazy. He had Terrence McKinty talking while he was unconscious to himself. Yeah. Like that was scary. So hopefully it's like a back to our brothers. Just in the land of forever slumped to the cage.

I can't believe that. I thought. I didn't even look. I was like, yeah, 100% Allberg and Rebovich got it. And then 100% water's golf. Like, I didn't have to consider this. And then I was like, oh, that's extra CDF, good performance, but not the kind that gets bonuses. Wow.

Yep. That's crazy. Yeah. Truly just an error. Truly, just an unforced error. That's just an unforced error. That's a real bad mistake right there. Dude, I feel bad for Rivavich's coaches and ever like, he was doing the money sign after.

Everyone was like, yeah, you got a 30 second K.O. Twitter was like, that just. pay him. He's going to obviously going to get it. And they didn't deal. I mean, even Chase Hooper didn't it like get up. But Chase still can freaking incredible. He dropped a 10-7 in most people's eyes and then gets the weird finish, but he looked great too. And it was just like, yeah, he's not going to get a bonus. He's, well, it's also just like he's not going to get it. 30 second knockouts. Yes, these two COs were like obvious, like the most obvious in a decently long time to be like, yeah, pay these guys.

What the what is happening here? Anyway, I We're drawing on about it, but like yeah, that's crazy that's crazy stuff Yeah Yes, Carlos Holberg 12 second knockout dude is a savage Shout out to Alonso Menafield for just running right into fists Because that's essentially what he did And I don't know why guys just continue

You to go into these fights and I'm like hey, I'm just going to run at him And that'll get him And then he just knocks them out in a minute like every single time dude's got the death touch right now he's looked real good it's gonna be real interesting i want to see him in bogdan fight i think that's just fun as hell and someone's going to sleep real quick uh mentioned diego fahada what a performance against batush rebechke rebechke coming in on this nice streak was was

rebechke the biggest favorite on the card jenn yeah he was the biggest favorite on the card in cdiaf just kind of thing in case i missed someone but i'm pretty sure so rebechki was like minus 500 hadley was a pretty big one though but I don't remember exactly how big Hadley. I can look that up. Yeah.

Sean Woodson beats Alex Kastris. I don't, let me just say this. I'm going, if there's one fight on this card, I'm going back to rewatch, it's Sean Woodson versus Alex Kacaris because I just don't see a world where Alex Kassaris didn't win the third round. Like, I just don't see it.

I just don't see it. And I thought Kassaris won two. Like, I think if there was a question to be had on one of those rounds going to Sean Woodson, it would have been okay maybe I could see you giving round two to Sean Woodson like maybe I could see it round three I just I didn't I didn't see it all three judges all three of them scored round three for Sean I actually think I actually think three was the close round for me I had I had Caceres two and three like I had Caceres winning two and three but if one was a toss up I would have said

three because I think two he kind of like completely changed the momentum took it over and did way better work and Woodson kind of looked a little bit lost in the sauce. The third, I think Woodson was like, the volume was lower, but he was landing some pretty clean, pretty decent shots. I just thought Casares was a little bit better there. So I think third was the toss up for me, but I had him winning, I had Casares winning two and three. So I was surprised to hear 3027 Woodson, truly.

Like, I thought he had to win one of those rounds. Although I will say, like, it was kind of like not like, neither guy put their impression on that fight in some major way. You could walk away with some crazy cards for that. So I'm not surprised that we did because if you leave it to judges of MMA, like they will find ways to do that. But I had Casares 2 and 3. So I was a little bit shocked by 3027.

Yeah. I had Casas 2 and 3, but I was not paying attention to the third round that closely. So I'll go back. I'll go back and rewatch that way. Just so you know, but two thirds of the media had Caceres winning and the rest had Woodson winning. So you guys are pretty much right on. Yeah, we're in the majority here. Yeah.

Yeah. I think one meeting man I heard at 3027 and he should probably just not do this anymore. Well, you got it with the judges. Maybe he's the local boxing judge who scored at 3027 for Sean, which we found out. But yeah, good win for Sean calls out Bryce Mitchell. Bryce Mitchell responds before the interview is even over. I mean, respond is really good. It's already made.

Bryce Mitchell is one of six fighters watching tonight, apparently. Not a lot of fighters are paying them to do. You know who you can always count on Hanato Moikano. He watches every single card. He made up a storm. Yeah, money, Morcano. You can count on him. Watching Hanata Moikano watch along with Chase Hooper's fight was one of my favorite things

the entire night. It was great. What wasn't great was, I mean, we should definitely talk about this. Chase Hooper looked tremendous. Esteban Rivich, K.O. the ER contender, for sure. Tab of the Reach he defeats Tisha Pennington. Shark Nato!

Shark Nato comes through. I thought, I thought Penhurt is on site. If I ever see Fitzgerald, it's on site. I don't care that you're like seven inches taller than me. You are the origin of the Shark Nato. You have

coined it for this fight. I feel like I did. I mean, I can't say that definitively, but I've been big up in the Shark Nato plan. And Fitsy, Fidze came with it. I mean, we know he watches, because everyone watches the Hymai Fighting Podcast Network

and YouTube channel. It's the best thing. It's been on a few times. He's been on a few times. But, I mean, use the gimmick well. And then Laura Sanko was just blown away the whole time. I still can't believe he came up with that. Even Bisbig.

They just kept talking about the Shark Beto. I thought it was great. I didn't realize that it came from inside. I didn't realize that it came from inside our own organization. Oh, yeah. Oh, I mean, that was really like 35 minutes of BTL. talking about it. Oh, yeah.

We were thinking we had people chime me with different sort of disaster animal combos. Gator quake. Okay, you know what? Now I'm more like riled up. I do think we need to have a word with Brendan. Like I think we need to like press this.

What did you dare claim? Gator quake. Lazy bed. If Brent and Cheryl said gator quake on the broadcast, is Gator quake an actual like B movie one? Is that an actual? No, that's going to be honest. I'm writing Gator quake.

And Orcanami. Orkanami. We're going to have a lot of fun with this. It was the best. And when Fitsy dropped it, I was like, he knows. Fitsy listens to No best bar and watches BTL. No doubt about it. Trey Waters, Billy Gough,

a tremendous fight. Shout out to New England's own Billy Gough. That's every Billy Gough fight, by the way. Like literally every Billy Gough fight is that. So always a game. I love that. So I'll watch 10 more of those. Thank you.

Oh, yeah. He's fun. Yeah. Charles Johnson gets a win over Jay Cadley at home. Veronica Hardy continues on. She gets another victory. St. Louis 3 and O tonight. The St. Louis Parley.

Oh, wow, yeah. I didn't even think of that. Yeah, that's right. Man, I thought Woodson lost, but I mean, yeah, that's solid work by the St. Louis folks out there. They stood up represented. They sure did. Well, let's talk about one other fight that got a lot of attention. It was the main card opener.

for this card. Heavy weights. A lot of people had their eye on this one. It was rebellus to Spain, Cuba's own, who just doesn't fight for more than 18 seconds. He fought for like 18 combined seconds and his three prior fights. Go need to say fights for 19 seconds.

Long night at the office for him. Tonight he fights Waldo Cortez Acosta. And this is the, I feel like, this isn't a victory lap, but I feel vindicated because this, This fight came up on onto the next one, and I was like, don't do that. Please do not book this, because this is not going to be fun.

And people are like, oh, I think you're crazy. Like, you're still going to get them out of there? No, this is why you stay away from these kinds of fights. You stay away from the risk that rebellus might actually be tackled in his second UFC fight. You let this man go out there and you let him, as Jed likes to say, you let him be the big booper. You let him boop. And then we move on to the next one. And then eventually we know he's going to get tackled in a fight and lose.

but let's at least have some fun until we get there. Waldo Cortez-A-Cost of fights. The perfect game-planned fight just kind of waits for Rebellis to swing as hard as he can and hit real hard, takes him down. We realized a rebellious to Spain after UFC 299, he's like, you guys think I'm a great striker. Wait till you see me grappling.

I'm really good at that too. Turns out not too good on the ground. Waldo just kind of like top position. It had very little trouble doing so. and just not what we expected here. So New York, Rick, rebellious and Spain. Yeah. Yes.

Why does every striker say that? Why does every striker feel that need to be like, I'm an amazing striker, but wait till you see, like when Israel and Asanaa and Alex Pereira are like, my ground game, wait till you see my sneaky, underrated ground game. That's never, who cares? That's BG black belt, Alex Pereira.

Thank you very much. I don't want to see it. I don't care. It's probably not any good. as we've seen from you just mentioning that disband is like saying that, I don't give a shit. Don't show me your black belt. I want to see you strike.

That's what I'm watching for. Why does every striker do this? I'm one of the best strikers who's ever walked this effing planet. I'm amazing. But man, you should really see my bluebell BJJ. No thanks. Nope,

don't care. Don't need it. Save it. Keep it at home. Anyway, that's just like I hate that. I hate that so much when they always talk about this shit. Yeah, Ian Gary, too, said he goes, oh, I'm telling you right now, I might be the best grab a pound for pound of the world.

And you guys just don't know it. Don't believe it. It's just everywhere. Don't want to see it. What a gimmick. What a gimmick. But yes, New York, we watched 15 minutes of this fight. Didn't think we'd get past 15 seconds to some degree.

Well, we got the whole thing here. Do you, did you get your money's worth it? If so, how much money did you get? Thankfully, I wasn't investing. much in this. Yeah, I wasn't paying too much to watch this. I have three thoughts coming off this. Number one, don't hate Cortez-A-Costa's game plan. I find it hard to argue with the idea of like, this is my path to victory. I should take it. I know a lot of fans don't love this, but I blame that more on booking than the game plan, right? Like, if that's your, if you're, if you are facing this

opponent, that should be what you do, right? You should make it a grindy kind of take down fight. He has no take down defense as we've clearly seen and just be there. So that's number one. Number two, if you're going to do that though and he looks as hapless on the ground as he does, Cortez Acosta like, man, you probably should have finished that fight. Like that's not a good sign for you on the rest of your UFC career. Like that dude was drowning and you couldn't take him out of there. Not great. Like you should be able to smoke him once you have it on the mat. So not good there. And then third, like, to spawn, like, it's time to get in camp with Derek Lewis and learn just get up. Like, you need to be in the lab learning the big man strength based moves to just get off your ass when you're in that position and doing nothing else.

Because like clearly the grappling's not going to be there. It's too, you're too long in the tooth and you're too young in the MMA game. He probably should be on the regional scene and not fighting like UFC level opponents at this point in his career. So he's probably in a bad spot just in general. like it's not going to get any easier and it's probably going to go pretty much like this from now on. But you need some moves that get you off the bottom ASAP and who better than Derek Lewis? Like he has proven time and time again that he's able to do that. So figure out what kind of things he's doing, what kind of technical things he's doing and using his size to be able to do

and replicate that and add that to your arsenal and then hope that most people stand up with you. And if they don't use that. But those were my three thoughts immediately. I mean, anything you want to add to that, Jen? I mean, it's just so I agree with so much that New Yorker just said there. I agree with almost all of it. And by I agree with all of it. My three thoughts were, one, shout out Josh Parisian.

You understood the assignment. Obviously, Waldo Cortezzo Costa did not understand the assignment. Two, we shouldn't be surprised, right? This dude started fighting two years ago. He's a he's been a Taekwondo fighter his whole life and he's literally started in a like less than two years ago. It's not stunning that this happened, but like my view and I think most people is like, well, I don't, I don't think, well, the Cortezzo has ever shot a takedown in the UFC.

He's a former boxer slash baseball player or whatever. So it's like, yeah, he's just going to stand with him. And I was like, maybe he's just really durable. But then he fought very smartly. And third, I hate it and think it was lame because it's not the outcome I wanted. Objectively, a very smart game plan. And also just like kind of impressive in the totality of the gameplay. Because the game plan wasn't just, I will tackle him and then he will no longer hit me and I will win.

Like on the feet, he was doing a lot of things to force Robillus to get into clinching position. You know, he was drawing him in, fading against the fence, kind of covering up very aware, of what Robles were trying to hit him with and trying to get to his spots in a pretty educated way. Super disappointing he couldn't finish this, but it's not really disappointing because Walter Cortezicoast is not very good at fighting. He's like a fine heavyweight. He's just not, he's not a top 15 kind of talent, but it was a bummer that he did not understand the assignment at all and thought he was there to win when he was supposed to make us all happy about the big booper. Dana White just spoke to the media. It was asked about this. It went great, apparently.

Yeah, I mean, I don't want to talk about some of the bullshit that I'm seeing on social media, but Dana White was that. David Martin tweets us out, Dana White on Waldo Cortez-A Costa versus rebellus to Spain. Quote, if I was giving out a bonus on shittiest fight of the night, end quote, dot, dot, dot, end quote. That's what Dana White had to say about that fight. So never a good thing when Dana throws that out there. Just ask Moves-Zer of Lov, how that works. So not go well. Give WCA to Derek Lewis.

Yeah. Try that. Try that nonsense to get Derek Lewis. See how that goes. Just get up, baby. He's up. He will just get up and then he will find me you. Yep.

Yeah. Dude, the Derek Lewis flying me. Go ahead. Finish the thought, Jess. Then he will tell you after he's finished knocking you out that he's never heard. of you before. And fan your lifeless body with his shorts. I can lose that Dominican dude.

I never heard of that before. The Derek Lewis flying knee is like sneaky, one of the like cheat moves. Like he closes distance. He's up there high. You'd think it would be like a fade or like take your head off. Like like a throwback to that. But he somehow finds a way to kind of get in on people with it and it's pretty impressive.

Because he's incredibly athletic. You really. is. He's a monster. He's a monster. All right. Let's bring in Casey. Let's take some questions, some thoughts. I'm sure Waldo Cortez-A-Cost's performance is going to come up quite a bit. Guys, you will be happy to know that Dana White has confirmed John Jones-Dipe still happening apparently likely in New York. Those Dana's comments. Like, yeah, it's likely going to happen in New York. So we're still just waiting, waiting until November. More time to build a The anticipation, baby.

Yes. The biggest fight of the year. I can't wait till Steve A gets hurt in October and we wait until next November. No, but if. Honestly, I hope that happens and this just becomes a thing. Like at the end of Jimmy Kimmel when he's like, and sorry to Matt Damon, he just cut for time. She's like, and sorry to Steve A and John, we got cut for time.

Next time we come to Madison Square Garden. I will say this. I think if it falls apart again, I do think. they will ultimately do some of the fights we want. That's what I think will happen. So I wouldn't be mad about a like a falling apart. No, it's not a guarantee. It's definitely not.

We're going to get Connor versus Buckley. Are you saying we're going to get Connoversus? No. The fights we've all been craving, Casey. Connor versus Buckley, baby. See, callouts work. Apologize. No, but I, if Steve in September is just like, yeah, I can't get there.

I don't think it's out of the question that they're just like, yeah, New York, John versus Tom, New York, John versus whoever. I could see it. Alex, hey, Alex, it's time. Step up. Yeah. I wouldn't, I wouldn't count it out. So I don't know, maybe. Well, I didn't realize Alex was the fight we cared about because it's not the fight I care about it at all. It's safe. It's not second. It's second for me. One is Tom. Sure. I truly don't. Fair enough. Fair enough. John, Alex. That's fair. Fair. Fair. Fair. I won't debate that. I like it. All right. We got some super chats first.

To do, too. By the way, Danae asked about walking Buckley actually getting Connor McGregor for a fight one word answer.

No. Just throw that up. That's awesome. No explanation. No. Next question. People are talking. People are talking, baby.

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Who's going to have the testicular fortitude to remove him from their rankings? Hashtag CcBG, which I know is at all. Well, there are two things here. We have to. Yeah. That is our rules. So we have to. And two, he has been progressively dropping in my heavy wave rankings.

and he is not in my pound for pound rankings at all. So yeah, you got to fight more than once this decade. So the answer is Jed. Jed is the brave soul. I mean, we will all remove him because we will physically have to. But yeah, in September he's gone out of the rankings. If Henry was a better division, I would have cut him. He should.

Why should he be in the rankings? Like if you're not fighting, get out of the rankings. That's fine. Nobody should be like clinging to this idea. Like John Jones has to be ranked. No, he's not fighting. That's fine. And when he comes back and then wins again, you put him back in.

That's fine. I didn't realize it was 18 months though. Jesus, that is so long. So by the time they actually. Yeah. So say if they do book this fight in October, we'll just say that means we'll have the heavyweight title fight in the UFC between, or whatever, never, between two unranked heavyweights. Sure will.

Yeah. I mean, for us, the UFC still has steepe in their rankings. That is not a joke. Really? is still firmly entrenched in the USC's heavyweight rankings. I think he's three, but I have them right up. I'm sorry, he's five. Stipe is number five.

Stepe has not want to fight in four years and has not competed in three. I mean, UFC heavyweight is a raceland, so, so I get it. He has it fought in three years. They cut Tatiana Suarez from the rankings. He has it fought in three years. And the last time you thought That's so shameless Blown up

Like It is shameless That is so shameful That is so shameful They pulled Lauren Murphy after like being out for six months after her Just got in-drage fight for They pulled Leon just because they didn't like his ass They pulled Leon because of the Hamzot fight

That They pulled Leon because he turned out a fight And they were mad Yeah Nate they had the contract dispute And then they pulled him too There's been all kinds of shit like that Steve at 5 is maybe the most shit I've ever seen

It's bad That's really bad You should be higher There's a You know what's so funny about the Dana White No to To the idea of the kind of regret The other thing related to this was

Buckley on the mic being like Dana blah blah Put me in the main event Next question or like thanks for coming out folks Like he just ended it He's just giving Buckley like no time He's just not He just does not have time for any of fucking shit

Yeah, you got the Coma. He's over. I know, but he's like, Derek Lewis doesn't want to fight here, put me in the name. Yeah, Dicketts did not sell for this card. They sold a little bit more during fight week, but Buckley, they positioned Buckley in a good, in a good light heading in. Maybe Dana's just threading the needle between our two positions of, I hate this and think it's stupid. And I'm not going to even talk about it. So it's just the worst outcome for you.

He's just finding that lane of perfect harmony between us, Rick. Just, yeah, one word, one word answers are bad. One word answer, Dana are bad. No. Next question. Man, it didn't take long for us to get out of that like happy UFC 300 Dana. You guys remember that when he was like, biving, talking all about it.

Now we're getting no. No. We have a nine, 99 super chat. Oh boy. Let's know it. This gentleman. Is this?

No, no. You have a new friend. Is it cross? Mr. Sten, your Pepe, spent $10 to tell you that.

I'm sure that that's how he wants you to pronounce his name as well. So there we go. Thanks for her writing. All right. I appreciate you letting me know. Max, 20 Bing rips later

and I'm still watching Jed. You weren't. here for the people's pre-fight. Max, I am proud of you, assuming that that's legal where you live. And you just keep on trucking, bud. I bet you had a more enjoyable viewing experience than I did for large swaths of this card. But this wasn't a bad card, and there certainly were some great highlights. Yeah.

I did drag in the middle section, though. It's talking about lazy. My favorite fight of the night. LazyBet was Rubech is Rubech's stunned by a B Where is his epipen? Yeah man CDFs

CDFs CDFs A thunker That post fight photo is a Tawfang That's what I was going to say If LazyBed If you haven't gone to his

Instagram Go find his Instagram It looks like something Out of a demonic possession movie He's crying blood His like it's gnarly stuff So go find his Instagram If we pull that up

I'll get it Where'd you do that on the Dropped it into fight week maybe Is it in a fight week? Yeah I dropped it into fight week At 10 39 East Coast That was a sick fight

Diego Veria is a monster man Yeah 39 years young And just the toughest division I mean Oh man He just doesn't get to be a lightweight contender Holy smooth

folks, man. It's real bad, boys. Wow. CDF is a real, real dude still. It's a real, real dude still. You know what I respect, though?

He posted this. He was like, yeah, yeah, I respect that. He's like, I got my, let's be real clear, Rick. He didn't post shit because he can't see Instagram to post it. Someone on his team posted this photo.

They're like, you look horrible. We're going to post this. Sign on on it. But you see an Instagram post, he puts the emoji like this guy. Hmm, whatever. Rough day at the office. You need a better team around you. They did you dirty putting this one up.

I like, I like it. I like it. I like it. Yeah, I like it. CVF. Still got it. Still got it. That was an awesome performance.

Shout out then. Michael Harris. Connor buys out Matt Brown's contract for a fight with Mike Perry. What does he mean? What do you mean? He's still on your UFC contract, right? What does he mean? Yeah.

Matt? No, yeah, because he. Oh, yeah, I see what he says. Yeah. Because he gets him out of the UFC deal to do, got it. I don't even think he has to do that. I think the UFC would just let Matt Brown go fight and be KFC. Yeah.

They let him do it. They have a good relationship with Feldman. I think that they, wouldn't have any issues with him, like, hey, I'd like to go do this. I agree with that. Could be wrong. And that would be a sick fight.

So, yeah, I'm all for that. I also think that that is potentially possible still happening, though some of the stuff we've heard maybe, maybe it's less likely than I would have thought like a week ago. Yeah. I hope the money's right and I kind of want to see it. I would love to see it. I would love to see it.

But if Matt Brown is ready to move on in his life, Happy trails, sir. Happy trails. Because you have to be ready for this. You've got to be ready for it. Because you can't just do it for the money. Because there has to be something else if you want to get in there and fight. I don't know.

God Duffy did it. He got out of there. If you want to win, if you want to go in there and win. I got Mike with that one. Matt. Matt's like, Oh my God, that's so funny. What a delivery.

Matt seems like the right type of psycho for it. I'll say that. Matt seems like he's local. He seems like he'd be willing to scrap in that setting. Also, shouts to the UFC. I did not expect them to do a Matt Brown, like, baby tribute. That was nice to them. Like, good, good work.

I enjoyed that. Yeah. And the Art Jimerson thing really good. Yeah, they did a good job. They did a good job. One point. I ran into Art Jimerson a few years ago at a local vegetarian restaurant. And I was like, sorry, Jimerson.

And I took a photo of him and he gave me a little postcard of the photo of him in the cage wearing his one glove. That's amazing. Nice guy too. Super nice guy. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Yeah.

All right. I would love to see Matt Brown BKFC. I actually think he won't, I don't think he'll have the same success that Mike Perry has, but I think he'd be like pretty damn close. I think he's got that potential. Is it true Dana said no more apex events? Where did you say that?

Post-flight, that's not what he said. I'm sure he didn't. It's not what he said. He said that he's been saying, and obviously doing this, so I haven't watched closely, said that he's been saying for a while, they've got to get out of the apex more.

It's basically echoing what the TKO call said where they need to spend less time at the apex, they're not going to not do anymore. But it does sound like they're going to do less of it, honestly, mostly because they can get site fees by going places. So yeah. By the way, which is good. Just like earlier this week, earlier this week, TKO chief financial officer, Andrew Schleimer said the following about APEC shows.

Yeah, Dana functionally echoes this statement. Those apex events do carry the lowest cost structure for us to hold them on our home turf in Las Vegas. I don't think we found the perfect mix yet, meaning mix of apex and shows on the road. But rest assured, we're looking at the numbers and working to do so. So I don't think their apex shows are going anywhere, but I do think they're trying to find a better balance between like how often they're leaving the apex and the apex. So I wouldn't take it like out of there. You do one apex show, one fight night show, and one paper view. you a month and during the summer months you sprinkle in you do every fight you do that 12 week

period where you instead of doing three times a month you just do one every week and you add in a couple extra fight nights and a couple extra apex shows and that gets you to 40 events in the year and you're good it's not that hard this is the simplest thing in the goddamn world and it shouldn't be that difficult to get to where you need to be i was shocked how hot that crowd was during the buckley fight i was like i did i just yeah i was when he was when he was was he manning those takedowns? They were going nuts. Yeah, that was something.

He brought some people. That was very live. Yeah. What were those chairs when Costa was doing the takedowns or whatever? They were booing him. Watcher. Yeah. You didn't have the possible.

All right. Some more super chats. RS 750s. CDF versus Zell Huber, Buckley versus Sean Brady. I kind of feel like Buckley's going to get the Sean Brady fight. I kind of feel like this is a man. to CDF. He just did prospect D and now you're going to make him do it again against a bigger one.

It is kind of a good lane for him though, you know? I mean, it is his lane, but just, yeah, he's been that lane for a while. Makes me feel bad. Well, I mean, they could do, they could throw them in there with Mick DeBecke Oral Buy too. That'd be pretty fun. That's kind of like where I would put Oral Buy. It's the same kind of concept though, right? It's like, Zelliebors is getting the top of this.

Yeah, Zellieuvers 20. 24? Yeah, 24, 25. Because he debuted and was like 23. I was a year and a half ago. He's a really big problem, man. Buckley versus Sean Brady. I like that.

I don't know if that's what my own no pick's going to be, but there's a very good chance that's going to be Sean Brady. Wait, I want to ask you a question real quick about Buckley's. Actually, we focus so much on the cost. out, but on his actual performance, was, is he a legit top 10 guy? Was that Lucay victory? Was that, was that like, oh, man, Buckley is like he's going to be a guy. Okay.

Lucke, Lucay was a shell of a fighter in that fight. Like, that was one of the worst performances I've seen this year. He didn't look like he belonged in a cage. So I was really looking forward to that fight because I believe that Joaquin Buckley has looked really good at 170 to that point and has like some. skills that are going to be interesting for people. He's just also such like a physical specimen and such a good athlete so that I was really looking forward to the measuring stick that the Luque fight was going to be.

And that was just an absolute nothing. I learned nothing from that fight. I was so curious about this fight because I just didn't know who Buckley was and I'm kind of in the same spot after 15 minutes. It kind of annoys me. But yeah, I think we're all kind of the same boat, right? His opponent tonight was extremely flawed. And, like, he exploited those flaws.

And it really didn't, like, teach me much. So I kind of still don't know. Like, I thought the Lucke fight was the one I was going to find out. I would definitely find out something about him against Sean Brady, like I did about Balal Mohammed. So that's, that, I think, makes sense, a lot of sense as a fight. But I do believe, like, at 170s, these look good. And Sean Brady, their Sultan Rubeyev, teammates. Oh, teammates.

Perfect. Love it. Gracie, Philly, dude. So Sean can get one back for the. for his teammate. So I kind of do like that fight. But like, yeah, that was like one of the things

I thought about after that fight was like, did we learn anything more about walking Buckley? I mean, I think that's why they were like some. Yeah. I thought we wanted to because there was a matchup.

This was just getting him on St. Louis. But there are things that can happen that five was like we were gone. Oh, okay. That Luke fight wasn't a fluke. That wasn't Luke having a bad night. That was Buckley.

Because I think I, I, he should. hard against the guy who we also don't like we still don't really know who survive is. So when you have two unknowns. I learned more about him. I learned more about him. I learned more about that dude got a chin on his ass.

God damn. Yeah. He got a chin, but like just kind of kind of, uh, what's the word skish? Like just a little bit freaky, just a little bit like weird and it just doesn't, the package doesn't come all together just yet. Um, some interesting moments, but like, yeah, like the ceiling, the ceiling is is there for him at the moment. I think he is clearly much better served at middleweight than well-to-

Yeah, I was going to say he seemed massive and problematic. Stay-in-middle-weight. He did. Like, he had a lot of white ideas. Yeah. He had a lot of good ideas. He just was fighting in molasses compared to Buckley, and it was a real trouble for him. Yeah.

All right. Oh, what was the official call on the whole the up kicks to the back? Because they stood him up and he stopped. He stopped as if it was a penalty. But it did not look like it was, but it's also like a real fairy in the neighborhood. It's almost a penalty. It's like, it's about as close as being a very clear, ridiculous penalty as possible. And so he stopped it.

And I don't think he, I think Keith Peterson thought he hit him in the head. It felt to your point like he stopped it on intent, right? You are, you are kicking way too close to his head. We're going to kick him in the head. So I'm going to stop it here. And he just did not kick him in the head. You're pretty clearly kicking and don't care if it hits him in the head. Exactly.

Like you are firing this gun into a crowd and sure you haven't hit anyone yet, but you were going to hit someone. That was it. This behavior is not acceptable. That was 100%. And I don't agree with that. Which was the wild as shit too. Yeah, I don't think you should have.

Yeah. I don't think. And just choose what do you wanted to do. Do you want to stay down here or do you want to stand it up? Well, that I get. If you're stopping. If you're stopping it, I'm okay with him giving him that option. That makes sense to me.

I'm okay with Buckley getting the choice there. And he took the choice that I wouldn't have taken. So, you know, credit to him. I would have put him right back down there. Oh, I was just saying, I think it's the wildest shit that Ruzabaya was like, I'm just going to kick this too. Like, oh, yeah. After he, like, flagrily not caring whether he fell.

It's insane. He's like, two four of them, not just one. It was awesome. Buckley, after Buckley got kicked, like, oh, it was a silly fight. He's just sitting there. Buckley's just getting kicked and he's just looking at the referee like this. And then Rootsabobb just looks right at him and then does it again. He just tries to hit him right in the face.

And then they're like, okay, okay. It was just hilarious. Buckley going for a triangle? It's the funny you should have seen. That third round was a day. I thought there was a real chance. Buckley was going to turf that win by rolling into a triangle. It's like, oh my God.

And then I still, like I got to go rewatch it and figure out. There's a by I've like tried to go like on the back. Like he wasn't a barambolo because he wasn't coming through the legs. He was like coming over the back like a like a squirrel jump in wrestling. It was the weirdest shit I've ever seen. That fight was so silly. It was very fun. A few more super chat before we get out of here.

Just because he sucks doesn't mean I don't like you, Jeff. I mean, that's respect right there. I hate you, but I respect you. And that's okay. I was not mad when you said I sucked. I said, okay, thanks for letting me know. Yeah. We ain't got no beef.

I only got beef with Cross. Because Cross is an idiot and has bad taste. Cross was in the comments and he did agree of everything Mr. Jackman was saying earlier in the... I love Cross. Cross sounds like a smart man. He sounds like a well educated. You don't know Cross like I don't know Cross. Yeah, I feel like that just solidifies our win of Cross.

We're on Eric's team right now. This reminds me, where's that coward to Killers Jr? He should be in here. But shout out to Cross, who's an absolute legend. Cross is a legend. None of the same reasons. There he is. There he is.

Casey, well done. Well done of the time. Wall and Rick are the worst human beings in the world. In the world. world in the world you indirectly compliment me and put me in the best company bala Muhammad a sound human and a rightful contender to the welterweight throne uh coming to manchester near you soon uh shout out to uh bala Muhammad and and to Akila's junior yeah only 199 though come on all right yeah you don't love me as i mean this this guy gave 20 bucks sign your pepe to to shit on jed

what what's up with this 199 garbage although i will say a killers junior usually comes like multiple bullets in the chamber. So right back in. He's been firing a lot, you know. Yeah. Yeah. All right. A couple more super chats.

Dustin, Parker Porter versus Parker Porter confirmed a UFC 303. No, no. I mean, don't. Porter Parker versus Porter Parker. Ah, yeah. That's not even the right way to mess up his name. It's a meaner way to mess up his name. That we do a lot by accident.

Yeah. It's Paco Porta, baby. Parker Porter and Porker Paquipata Say there is There's honestly been There has never been a UFC release

That has garnered more longevity In hopes of a comeback Than Paco Porter He's mentioned on every show Like literally every show What's he doing? Once he coming back Who should he fight

Should the UFC bring him back To fight Alex Pereer at UFC 301 Like all these different questions Because Perrin won't have to fight Heavyweight Would that be the the best redemption run since like

Brandon Moreno if he came back it'd be awesome yeah I feel like Brandon's like I'm still weird for Will Brooks yeah oh man Will Brooks I tried I started on that yeah I did I did try a lot on social media I was like come on Will

get in there I had this redemption season I just don't get why you had the redemption season you had the redemption season the ultimate fighters the pros trying to get back in against the rookies trying to make their debuts and Will Brooks Will Brooks didn't get on the show

it was insane He was a no-brainer He was a coach No-brainer Yeah I know I know All right lazy bed KS Williams Co-main event next week

At the World's Most Famous Apex Yes Next week is The tough is he fighting Wellington Who's Sherman Carlston Harrison Harris Carson Harris Yep that's it is

Who's the main event next week? Barbosa and who? Maniom it's fine. Ron Murphy. That's fine. That's fine. I did. It makes sense.

It's just not a spice. There's Pinheiro, Angela Hill, which is a ranked fight, and that's, I don't know your opinions on Vanessa Demopolis, Emily Dakota. But that's a fight. And then it's, I like Dakota. Yeah, that's actually fun. I dig that. All right. I'm in.

Say, Paxie. Uh, it's, it's really apixie. Chase. What's up, Chase? Uh, Adrian Yana is back as well, uh, competing on that card against Phoenicia, Salvador. Oh, you know what? This all sounds pretty decent to me. Tembo Garimbo.

And yes, Tom Nolan, Jed's favorite contender series fighter. Look, he's making me so mad if he loses this contem fight. I am, I was killing it. I am perfect on my top prospect off contender series list right now. But for Tom Nolan. And then even, yes, the one-time Apex headliner himself is back in the world's most famous warehouse. Abu Smaga made off is back against poorly albums. No way.

Oh, wow. Back in the apex, baby, where he belongs. The scene of the crime. All right. I have a seven fart score here, Jed. Might have a seven-fired score here, Jed. main event. I personally think of Connor isn't completely

coked out. He should spark Mike in two because he's the dumbest fighter on the roster. Wow. Nice. Look, I, yeah, this speaks to you.

Everyone is aware my feelings on Michael Chandler and how he sucks and I hate him. Objectively, not the dumbest fighter on the roster. And I would say not even like particularly dumb. It's not why I dislike him. We've seen a lot, a lot dumber things recently from fighters.

Okay. can I say though? Would you consider that he's probably a better fighter than he shows because he's decided when he got into the UFC that he wants to get into wars more than win fights?

Would you say that that's dumb? Because there is probably an element of dumbness to that. But other than that, like I agree with this. Technically, he's not a very dumb fighter. But it served him well, right? He's got a counter fight now. I think he's, the only reason

I don't hate him more is because of what he has done in the UFC. Like he is just fun now at least. So it's hard to be a hater when he's objectively very fun. Yeah, he's been very fun. I mean, our boy, uh, Armand Roast. Fight of the year in a bunch of great fights. He said, I can't be it.

Yeah, Armine, that Armin roast or he said you could have lost four like fight of the, the year or fight of the night bonuses and lose, uh, in, in the time since you fought caught that, that was a, that was a real dagger. But also true, because Michael Chandler really. does put on great fights. I think Connor's going to win. I mean, look, famous last words, it could potentially be stupid. He could show up and just have, there's a real, there's a real high chance. There's a real high chance that Connor McGregor shows up, has two minutes of gas, throws the kitchen sink at him, and then it's just absolutely cooked. And Michael Chandler's cardio takes him into

the second round and then he just destroys Connor. Real chance that happens. I would say that the odds are probably going to look that way and most people are going to be betting that way. But if he's even like a decent version of himself. I just think he's going to have some tools that he's going to be able to use against Michael Chandler. And I would, I would think that that will be enough. But man,

like betting on, I hope a good version of Connor shows up is real rough to do in 2024. But if he does, I favor Connor. I favor Connor in that fight. Do you favor the, you know what? We have so much time to talk about this.

Yeah. I'm not even going to. Yeah. I think in the primes I would eat like you pick both of the other primes I would easily pick Connor I think it would be a very very good fight for him I I don't know man I'm probably gonna pick Chandler all right you guys remember when Wyman came back from shattering his leg and was like visibly petrified about getting touched in the leg pretty tough to come back from that like maybe can and it's not like he can't Michael Chandler sucks it's easy to be people who suck

but I don't know I'll probably pick Michael Chandler and hate myself for it all right there's such weird lives about that fight because like I'm obviously they're going to push it and it's like fun and exciting and looking at the calendar

we're like six weeks away from it happening but I'm also at the point like I'm at the point where like I've accepted that it's probably going to happen but I just can't fully get there until we get the fight week yeah I just I need to see them both in a media day in a press conference like I need

you know what I mean like I need to see that first and then I'll be like all right we're good we're good I just I believe this one's happening you know me I'm always anti it happens until it happens but whenever Connor assigned a contract he showed up and Michael Chandler I think as long as his legs are still attached to his body will show up for this fight so I it's going to happen I think Michael Chandler will show up with no legs because he knows what this represents for his career I don't I don't think he has to be alive I'm not sure that Bernie's his ass into the listen. There are any legs to fight?

You actually do need legs to fight, Casey. It's pretty close. That is not true. There are sanctioned fights. Zion Clark literally no legs. He has a victory in mixed martial arts. I agree. Was that in the UFC?

Remember when the UFC wouldn't sign, what's the one-arm fighter's name? Nick Newell. Nick Newell, who was like, exactly a fighter and they were like, no, we're not doing this. Was it a favorite against Justin Gitchie? No one of the favorite things about MMA is that they've Nick Newell in against Justin H.

I was just thinking about that. The same thing that's ever happened. Okay, Jed, you might remember this. Was he not a favorite? I don't remember if he was a favorite or not, but I just remember everyone who knew anything was like, he's going to die. Yeah, it was a weird one.

That was a real weird one. Objectively, it's fine. Like, he kind of deserves it. He's going to die. He was a huge underdog. He was a big dog. That would make more sense. A three 10.

That would make more sense. Yeah, yeah. Okay. I mean, been plus 3,000 if we're being honest, but yeah, I mean, that was an insane thing. He did better than James Vic. Yeah. Or whatever.

He's a talented fighter. He's a talented fighter. He is a talented. He is just hilarious. Hey, here's one of the other dudes in the sport. Go get him, Tiger. Yeah, it was just a weird one where like they had no stars at WSOF and they were trying to like make things happen.

And this was just not a thing you needed to make happen. He'd, he'd want to watch a fighter. Get it. He was a very good fighter. Yeah. It was just, I think about that all the time. And you're just like, yeah, you guys put a one-arm fighter and it gets Justin fucking one-hand fight.

He had one hand. It was. He had an arm. That was an incorrect. I was incorrect. There, you were correct. It was less about Newell and it was just like a misunderstanding of like what Justin Gaci was.

What? I think that's more true. I used to do. I used to do public relations at the time for WS. I think I came on at WSOF too. And when I saw Marlon Marais and when I saw Justin Gachie, I was like, yep, like these guys have outgrown this promotion from Fight 1. Like they are absolute killers that could be in a UFC octagon and smoke people right now. And turns out that was right.

But like, they fought for a minute with WSOF. And it was just tough. They were trying to. They had the best deal in the sport. Justin Gichi made so much money to beat the shit out of people who could never beat him. But he still made it fun because he would let Louis Palomino hit him a bunch. With a contract. And for both of them with contracts negotiated by their manager who was also working at the promotion.

Nice, nice little gravy train going. The best deal in the sport for like three years. That really was just like a misunderstanding of Justin Gagey. Like this is not a real. This is not. It was so insane. Quick follow up from Chase. Nothing would be funnier than Chandler pulling out.

He ain't. Nope. He ain't. There's zero. Chandler's coming. Genuinely, like, out of high, no hyperbole, what do you think it would take to get Michael Chandler to pull out of this fight?

Not be able to physically walk. Yeah, the doctor. I agree. I actually think that is the line as well. Yeah, he has a staff infection. He tries to hide it and then the doctor and see it. He will mask. That's not pulling out.

That's him getting pulled. Slight difference. Well, all right, well. But also doctors let people fight with staff all the time. Well, that's what I'm saying. I'm just, I'm just saying it's going to be something weird.

If he blew out his knee tomorrow, he is absolutely fighting. He's fighting. He's fighting. You can fake it. You can fake it. You can fake it. But wouldn't it be amazing?

At the way ends, at the way ends, they bring the backup fighter and outcomes, Joaquin Buckley. Amazing is the word I kept for, but it would be objectively Farming? They should

I got to tell you. Dude, imagine Buckley is a backup fighter. Buckley's the backup fighter. Just imagine that. The timing on some of these Buckley Connor jokes you've had tonight or you must say.

Casey, just, that's beautiful. Thank you for that. If that happens, I'll rescind everything I've ever said. I'll say, Ben.

You know what? If Joaquin Buckley, if Joaquin Buckley said called to be the backup fighter for that, I actually don't know if I'd be as a, upset. Somebody interesting did, right?

Didn't somebody interesting just see Charles Olvera? Oh, Charles. Oh, God. Please, that'd be amazing if Charles got in line up for that. Oh, man. He said, but he said under one condition that if it's Connor, I get to get to be in my deal. And the O.C. Probably like asking for that.

Yeah. I didn't know. Charles is just hitable enough for like I could see how Connor could win. he would not win but I could see how he could win Real quick Because casual fan wants to put it out there See I didn't even pay attention to the freaking Celtics Tell me they won they won they won they won

Thank freaking Christ Oh Jaystap scored 33 points All right at least he showed up with a pair of testicles tonight So that's good because he's looked awful and no balls But he shot 11 for 28 11 for 25 to get there. He's kind of not good. All right.

And our last two super chats before we get out. Gents, thanks for all the content. My man, Elder. Thanks for being with us, bro. And our last one from our good friend, Mr. Signore Pepe. Dad. I mean, oh, that's what I'm talking about. Thank you.

We didn't get, I thought you're only worth. And you're only worth it. I know I'm only worth half. Yeah, yeah. A quarter of dead. $4.99. I'm only worth a quarter of Jed, but I do thank you for including me after you had spent, hey, wait a minute.

After you had spent $20 bucks on Jed. So thank you for including me. You are way more of a respectable person than that coward, Akilas Jr., who would only spend $2 this time. I mean, what is that? Get out of here. Get a job. Come on.

Yeah, come on. Mike eats coffee. What are we doing here? Yeah, I know. You're pretty, I have, I have coffee for the month for the month now. Thank you. You guys are the best. We're going to say, Chad?

It's so funny that people actually make it. It's the best. Casey, you clearly understand the reference. Rick, I know you don't. I thought that more people would be deeply interneted to be like, you got to talk about Chase Hooper and the Mr. Hands reference. And he didn't. And I don't know if that should make me feel old or what.

Or if I should just be proud of how quality our chat is that they don't know it. So I'm very like original internet meme ebombs like I was all over these things. I don't know this one. I can't believe you missed that one. I didn't know this one. Maybe. Maybe per your wreck. If you were ebombs that don't.

Yeah. Don't you're good. Also, super don't do it on a work computer. I will not. Incognito mode. Incognito mode. Yeah. I will not.

If you were, if you were proto internet ebombs world. Yeah. cracked and that sort of thing then i'm fairly certain you actually do know it oh okay maybe i maybe i'm forgetting the name because i do remember that you know bw lp a lot of the like famous one you know talking about oh yeah um so yeah i just missed this or maybe i didn't yeah maybe i didn't yeah maybe i didn't if you know about lp and the spain and not you probably know mr hans you just don't remember okay uh but did i didn't think 24 year old chase hooper was going to come with that one for Maybe it's having a revival on TikTok right now or something.

Probably not on TikTok. Probably not. We don't need that. We don't need that part of our lives. But shout out to Chase Super, the best you've ever looked. Yeah. Dude, it's becoming a man. He's definitely becoming a man, baby.

Grown man Chase Hooper is a big, big problem. Thank you all very much. Much appreciated. AK and I do some matchmaking tomorrow next week, back at the World's Well's Famous Apex. Then we get a weekend off. And then it's 50302. can Dustin Poria get it done.

So a lot to look forward to. So, A.K. and I will see you tomorrow. Appreciate you guys watching. And shout out to all the moms out there. Happy Mother's Day tomorrow. Shout out. You all can't do this shit without any of you. So have a good night, everybody.

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