MMA Fighting - UFC Vegas 104 Post-Fight Show | Reaction to Roman Dolidze Getting Revenge on Marvin Vettori

Episode Date: March 16, 2025

Roman Dolidze got his revenge on Marvin Vettori, taking a unanimous decision victory in their main event rematch this past Saturday at UFC Vegas 104. It was a hard-fought battle that even saw Vettori hurt Dolidze in the third round, but “The Caucasian” overcame the moment to win four rounds and all three judges’ scorecards and earn a spot as a top-10 middleweight. Following Saturday’s return to the APEX, MMA Fighting’s Jed Meshew and José Youngs react to Dolidze’s impressive performance over Vettori, discuss if Dolidze is a serious title threat at 185 pounds and where he goes from here, chop it up about the numerous finishes that happened on the undercard, choose their favorite performance from the night, talk about the various prospects who showed out (and some who fell short), and much more. Follow Jed Meshew: @JedKMeshew Follow José Youngs: @JoseYoungs Subscribe: http://goo.gl/dYpsgH Check out our full video catalog: http://goo.gl/u8VvLi Visit our playlists: http://goo.gl/eFhsvM Like MMAF on Facebook: http://goo.gl/uhdg7Z Follow on Twitter: http://goo.gl/nOATUI Read More: http://www.mmafighting.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Do you hear the horns of blowing? They blow. Roman DeLieze. He gets his revenge. Taking unanimous decision victory over Marvin Vittori at UFC Vegas 104. Woo! The fights are over, frankly, a little earlier than I thought. I thought we'd be doing the show.

around 11. So credit to everybody else who got finishes since the main event didn't doing that. But now we're here to talk about it for the US Vegas 104 post show. And hello, everybody. My name is Jed Mishu. I'll be your host this evening because Mike Heck wisely decided to take this weekend off to go do some other things, Apple picking or what have you. So he missed the great rambunctiousness that was the Marvin Vittory Roman Deleads a rematch. And Frankly, a pretty decent little card. Meaningless. Utterly meaningless the rest of these fights.

But nine finishes, pretty good watch if you were there. And so we're here to talk all about it. And joining me today, two esteemed members of the MMA fighting team. You know him, you love him from his on-site reporting. He is the workhorse of MMAFighting.com. And I would argue the most handsome man in M.MA at this point in time, Mr. Jose Youngs. How we doing, Jose? This point, who would be?

in point in time as in like past president of future who would be passed I'll take the crown right now there was like a stretch there where Acomoto you know was certainly competing

no he's a handsome boy that's true he's not an ugly man but you know getting a little older you're you're aging like a fine wine Jose as they say yeah no he's a handsome boy

yeah I'll give it to Brett yeah he can have the crown he can have the crown but I took it just like Marvin Vittori just like Roman Delitz say took Marvin Tori's crown of good top 11 middleweight, whatever he's ranking is. I believe Marvin Vittori in the UFC rankings. Let me pull those up because I was looking at this earlier and are shocked by how high.

That's right. He is number eight, which means Roman DeLidezay will be moving to the number eight spot on Tuesday almost assuredly. And, you know, good on him. He avenged that one loss. Also joining us before we dive into this, of course, you know, who it is is the baddest producer in M.MA, baddestash in the game, Mr. 3024 himself, no sleeves, no mercy. E. Casey Liden.

Hi. Man, there are no sleeves at all. No mercy this evening. Let's do this. All right. Talk fights, gentlemen. Let's talk fights. We will come back to Casey later and at the end we'll obviously do questions.

And let's be real, we're not going to go for three hours tonight because this was USC Vegas 104. And as fun as it was, because of it was. it was a pretty decent card, Jose. I think we can all acknowledge that this is probably the last time any of us will ever speak about this card. And so let's dive into the main event because it was a main event that I had a lot of fun laughing about this week because Marvin Vittori famously was like,

I did not know I was fighting Roman DeLidezay. I thought I was fighting the other guy named Roman. And unfortunately, that didn't work out for him. It's his first fight back in almost two years, very similar to their first go-round. except for Roman Deleuze manages to sort of clear, set a clear distance from himself in this one. The extra 10 minutes did not help Vittori at all. Deleuze swept the final two rounds.

49-46s across all the scorecards. I guess let's just start here, Jose. How are you feeling about Roman Deleadze's performance and sort of do you rethink his abilities in the middleweight division based on getting this win back? It's an interesting question to present. I don't think so because I never really, I don't think so. That's my answer, I guess, because this fight happens.

You could have told me it didn't happen. I'd be like, yeah, they already fought. I also was at their first fight. Don't remember it. That was in London. I flew all the way to London, England, to watch that fight. Obviously not that fight specifically, but don't remember that fight whatsoever.

But I do remember when they were showing the highlights. I was like, oh, yeah. I think Rome, did Roman win this? Was it a controversy? And then I went back to look and all the tweets were like that fight. Roman probably won, but I don't care enough to really argue because that fight was kind of a meh, a nothing burger. So this felt like rounds like, what, four through eight rather than a whole new fight. It was just a continuation of their last fight, which is fine.

Roman elites, they won, did a lot of fouls, as Mike Heck says, you know, keep foul him because nothing's going to happen to you. this is god i felt probably gonna fight again at some point and have mercy on all of our we have to we have to right yeah the first fight was in london the second fight was in the apex so obviously they're going to rematch as the main event at ufc okloma city uh which is a i say that as a joke but then i think about i'm like that will probably happen at some point casey clip this clip this for his prophetic visions in 2020s I guess Roman Deleet keeps winning. His last fight was at middleweight.

Kevin Holland. Kevin Holland won. I was also at that fight. And then before that, it was the bump up to light heavyweight where he beat Anthony Smith. So I guess he's on a bit of a run since he lost a Nasradiqi Mavov.

And that was kind of a weird wonky fight too. And Nasredine Mavov, that lost his aides pretty well because he seems to be on a tear and probably within a win away from fighting for a title. And before that, was the Marvin Torre one.

So I guess he keeps winning in a division where we need new title contenders. As Dreykis said, he's pretty much beat all the contenders already or former champions, and now he needs fresh matchups. So winning is obviously the most important thing in any sport. So I guess he just continues to push himself up towards the title. But it was, I don't think he's within reaching. We're not going to be talking about Romans a lead to day, possibly fighting for a title in 2025. That's for sure.

No, that seems pretty unlikely. Though perhaps, you know, things can always happen. These get crazy because after the fight, he made a call-out. And there are other individuals for our website who do a wonderful show called on to the next one about, you know, matchmaking following events. We aren't on that show. Not something that we normally do. But let's kind of stretch outside our comfort zones because Roman Deleadze said, I deserve a top five guy. only two dudes make sense

Israel Adesio Robert Whitaker both former champions I don't know where is he's at I know that he says he still wants to compete but coming off his most recent loss I don't know what sort of his timeline is how do you feel about those callouts Jose do you think that sort of

makes sense for where Roman should go or is he going to have to settle for something a little further down the line he's going to have to set up for something further down the line because I think Israel out of signing is going to take some time off rightfully so he's kind of carried this division on its back for so long and then you just suffer that TKO loss to Nasorini Imovov.

Imov should be fighting Cabo Haleo for the number one contender. Hamza Shemaya is probably going to fight Jukas duplice sometime this summer for the middleweight championship. So obviously I want to see Robert Whitaker fight Sean Strickland because Sean Strickland called Robert Whitaker a can. Robert Whitaker deserves, you know, another former champion, two former champions fighting because neither of them have any short of claim to fight him for the title at any point in time within the next several fights. So they can fight each other. So Roman Deleese can just fight Jared Cananeer because they were supposed to fight in December 2023. But I believe Jared Canaer or Hurt is ACL or MCL or MNiscis or something.

So that fight didn't happen. So might as well rebook it because they're both coming off wins. And that matchup has already happened. And everyone above them, Roman or Jared is pretty much fought already. So there you have it, UFC. There is your main event for UFC. UFC Baltimore. There you go.

that can be your main event. I mean, that feels really like that's actually just an apex card. So let's go. Apex 112. That feels like the main event to it. And honestly, he should be happy if he gets that because there's a real world where Fluffy Hernandez jumps

to Jared Canaanie line in front of him. Pretty tough to make headway at middleweight for Roman Deleads A. But, you know, credit to him. On a good streak, we'll briefly acknowledge that he just cheated his ass off. and I say full credit to him because it's not cheating

if they don't do anything about it. And Herb Dean had a really special performance in there tonight. Stopping before the action of round two gives a hard warning. Michael Bisping then goes on a diatribe about it being a dumb rule. And immediately after that, Roman Deleadze,

books Marvon Vittoy right in the eyes. No penalty. Herb just says, hey man, remember when I just told you not to do that it was going to be a problem. This time I really mean it. And that's all it ever happened. And Roman Deleadze went on to have a low blow, another arguable eye poke, and good on him,

because that's what you should be doing until the referees do their job. So Roman Deleadze now a going, now a legitimate, legitimately in the title conversation, I'll say. Because for whatever your quibbles are about Marm Vittori, he's been a top 10 fighter for some time. Roman DeLizzi is there. Jose, a bunch of other stuff happened and frankly all of it was more. It's actually a pretty good card. I don't know if it's more interesting

because it's meaningless but it was all a lot cooler than the main event because the main event was not particularly fun to watch. Your co-main event, Chitty and Jokawani finishes Alizu Zaleski Dos Santos with a really nasty knee in a pretty fun fight prior to that. Chitty comes out kind of

who missed weight on this one? Did the Chitty miss this one? Chitty missed weight. So it gets, because the other one is not how this happened. But a couple of fighters missed weight. Chitty missed weight. Didn't matter.

Comes in, gets it done. Chitty and Jerkwani with the weight miss. Also had to do a catchway bout in his bout before this. But now on a three-fight win streak at 172.5 pounds, I guess. How did you feel about the co-main event? We don't need to spend too much time on it. but pretty good performance from Chitty despite the weight issues. Yeah, I always thought Chitty was just a supremely talented striker.

I know he's kind of up there in age, but he was one of those fighters that once the UFC signed him. He came through the Contender Series, correct? Yeah, if I remember. I think I was actually. I think that's correct. Well, I mean, also just everyone came through Contender Series at this point. No, I actually think I was at the fight that he won the contract, which is even crazy. It's just all blends together, guys.

Every apex and he was a middleweight, every middleweight that fight in the end. they made it go through the same series that's what i'm saying he felt it's a guy that like when he went through the contender series like he doesn't jacobi you're just kind of like you know he's gonna get it like he's really good he's better than almost yeah he's really good this i don't understand he should just be signed right out of the gate anyway um he's got the name because there's brother else have fought in the ufc i just i thought it was a no-brainer he's always been a very very fun striker and a very interesting interview kind of a charismatic cat um i'm glad he He's getting the shine.

I wish he would get to fight in front of crowds a lot more often because he is a very exciting individual or not all the way in Singapore. I think I'm happy he's finding success, especially this light in his career. He's finding new life at Welterweight. He called for top 15. I don't think, I mean, here's the problem. Here's the problem, which it's not a problem. The issue with Chitia Kowani is he's so fun to watch, but the 15th, ranked welterweight in the UFC ranking is Michael

Venom Page. Now, if you ask me to watch Chitty Angiagwani and Michael Vanem Page in the UFC in 2025, I'm going to be like, Belator closed. We don't need to see that anymore, but I'll still watch it. If you ask me if he wants to fight Vicente Lucke, who's 14, I'll watch that fight. Carl's

Prate's already has a fight. Michael Morales already has a fight. So he's not going to get a top 15. I think you should fight Punis Soriano. I think that's a fun little scrap. Soriano likes to... Soriano likes to thump. He's a Vegas boy for middleweight and he's like sick at welterweight yeah they're both just monsters of welterweight now so they're both like huge for this division i think that's just a fun fight a selfishly i just want to

see someone get thumped that's what i want to see very badly man i didn't even know i saw someone say i saw someone say Kevin holland i'm like you're just saying that because they're both long-lengthy black men from texas but i'm also pretty sure they trained or are friends so they're not going to fight yeah prune is a really good call i really i really i I had not thought about that. That's some A plus work. And I think the right answer, because he's just not getting a welterweight crack, particularly like having the weight issues.

There's no incentive to do that for it. But nonetheless, good performance. And, you know, ZDS is not like the world's greatest fighter. But if you look at his resume, it's pretty, he's a good fighter. And he is pretty clearly, if you beat him, you are a very good fighter. Because the guys who beat him, Randy Brown, very good fighter. Muslim Salikov, very good fighter. Renov Fokradinov.

No, that's a draw, but like very good fighter. So, you know, these are where we're at. I wouldn't hate Randy Brown fighting shitty either. That'd be a fun little scrap. That would be good because Randy Brown's coming off to Brian Battle law. Yeah, and I think Brian Battle is going to fight Obon Elliott, if I heard correct. Okay, that sounds like that's not official or anything. That's just like, this is what I heard from someone.

I'm like, is that true or are you just saying that? But it made me think about that fight. I'm like, I like that fight. So that is our co-main event. Like I said, we're not going to spend a lifetime on this. But a bunch of other things happen. Alexander Hernandez takes unanimous decision win over Kurt Hollabaugh in a very fun, really, really fun scrap.

I suspect that might win fight of the night as we get to bonuses coming on. Desmond Blackshear overcomes sort of a tough opening to submit Cody Gibson with a Camura. That's interesting because it was the second Camaro finish, back-to-back fights as Brinson Hovero submitted DR Nurgazai with a submission, a Camaro submission in the second round. Kevin Vallejos, my boy, looking exceptional against Troy Songwu's, or Songwu-Choi's he's supposed to do T-KO finish in the first round.

And your prelims, Waldor Cortezza Costa, saves us five minutes by knocking out Ryan's band just before the bell in the second round. Pretty nasty little K-O for WCA, who is usually a decision merchant, so good for him. Su Yong Yu takes unanimous decision win over A.J. Cunningham, where he ran shop for 15 minutes. Carlos Vera with one of the biggest upsets in UFC history, odds-wise, knocks out and then submits Josias Musasa with a rear naked choke in the first round. Sam Hughes takes a split decision and a fun little scrap with Stephanie Lucie. I scored that fight for Luciano, but not a robbery, just a competitive fight. Andre Lima, my other boy, submits Daniel Barras with a rear naked choke in the third

round of a fight he was putting work in. Probably could have been stopped between rounds, frankly. Priscilla Casuala, she going to be getting a bonus. I don't have bonuses in front of me yet. I will be astonished if she does not. As she floors Josian Nunez with a uppercut in the first round and opening the proceedings, my girl, Carly Judis, puts the mitts on UNICE Dubez for a head kick and then follow up punches in the 100 second mark of the first.

Jose, at some point, bonuses will drop and we'll play the bonus game. I guess we could play the bonus game right now, but also, what is the standout performance from the rest of this card? If we are talking about anything after this, what's it going to be? I'm not going to say Carlos Vera because that's like a no-brainer, because that was, A, like you'd say, one of the biggest underdogs betting wise in U.S.

history. But it wasn't like he wasn't a flash knockout. Like he choked a dude out in the first round. That's very difficult to do in mixed martial arts and he did it as such a massive underdog. So probably him in terms of like impressive, but like there are,

we talk about guys that are violent strikers or violent grounded pounds or just like just violent dudes overall. And it usually has to do with blooding, guts or someone getting knocked out. DeMond Blackshare is a very violent grappler. Like that dude, he gets on top of you or gets whatever he does. It's just looks so uncomfortable to watch.

Like you're just getting big brothered by a man and you have you in front of the entire world and there's nothing you can do about it. And all of his wins are like Kimora in the first round or like rear naked choke in the first round or getting a freaking twister in the UFC. And then I think his only losses are to Montel Jackson, Brad Catona, and Farad, one of the Boshrodrard brothers. I think it's Freed Bosharaturat, who are, and all three of those fighters, Bracketona, was Bratona?

No, Mario Bautista. Maybe it was Mario Bautista. Yeah, he definitely lost Mario Batista in Boston. I was there. He did lose to Mario Batista. Because I was there. Brad Katona beat Cota Gibson or the guy that he beat. So, silly me.

Montel Jackson has the biggest hands in the world, and Mike Heck has long been saying he deserved a shot in the top seven, top 10. So he's only losing to the best and the best. And when he's winning, it's incredibly violent grappling. And I love to watch it. He's a guy that I have circled like,

I don't care who he fights next. I'm going to pay attention. And I hope it's in front of a crowd because his grappling and submissions in just ground game overall is so fun to watch. It is so, it's like watching a high level striker just piece of dude up, except it's a grown man,

just biding another man. on the campus. Dude, he, and he was hitting some tricky shit that I just didn't understand. Like, he, he threw in like a, uh, dars grip, like anaconda grip. Yeah. While Cody Gibson was like back to the mat. I was like, how are you even doing? Like, I don't know what's going on right now.

And just using that to pull a reversal. I did not understand some of the shit he was doing. I can't imagine it's very, it's very fun to, like, roll with him. in camp. Like you probably just like, you're probably like like, who wants to roll with DeMond Blackshare? And I was like, ah, not really. And then you get throwing a blue belt and they just get eaten alive.

Like it just doesn't seem like an enjoyable experience. Can't be fun. I'm going to throw a shout out to, I have a couple of boys on this one. I am more convinced than I've ever been that Kevin Balejos is going to fight for a belt one day. Like that dude is, he's 23. and insanely talented already. Like, again, I said this in the pre-build to this. Of all the people we've seen fight John Silva,

that's the dude who gave him by far the time of his test. John Silva's fault like freaking hitters. So Sung Rue Troy just had no chance. But also, I've been super high on Andre Lima, and he just put the boot tips to Danny Barras. Like, that was a real tough fight for Danny Barras in there. So honestly, pretty fun little evening, right? won't speak too much about it.

I still do we have bonuses yet. Let me see if we have bonuses. I see no bonuses. So, Casey, we're done talking about this card. When the bonuses come, we can play the bonuses game. But get on in here. Do you know what his... Who's the guy you were just talking about?

I just completely... Andre Lima? Yeah, nope, one before that. Oh, Kevin Vallejos. Yes. Do you know what his gym... Jim's name is. You know that Jimmy Trains out of his name is?

When you say it, I will, but nothing off the top of my head. Yeah, it's brothers of life. Okay, I didn't actually know that at all. Brothers of Life MMA. That's their gym name. I'm just like, what the most Argentinian name for a gym of all time? Because everything they do is flowery and dramatic. It's going to be the next fighting nerd.

Just wait. Brothers of, brothers of life, Jim. Oh, man, he's so freaking fun, guys. I love that guy. You were correct. You were correct. And you hyped him up a lot. And I wasn't really familiar from him.

And he looked gosh darn good. And, um, dude, I loved him on contender series two years ago because the John Silva fight is legitimate like one of the best contender series fights I've ever seen. Yeah. And I was like, I really like this John Silva guy. And that dude's 22. And like, then he came back and just beat their shit. shit out of the dude's like, oh, that dude's good.

He's going to be good. He might be a little small at Featherweight. Like, he's not super undersized, but I mean, Choi was seven feet taller than him, but, you know, he's like 5'7 or whatever. Yeah, 5'7. If you're muscular, that's fine for Featherweight. And Choi's a tall cylinder featherweight. So I think he looks, he looked fine in there.

So he will never be the bigger man in a fight at featherweight. But I don't know if he needs to because dude's got saucy. mitts. Yeah. Very softly. Yeah. So guys, this is the part of the show where you ask questions and we answer them for a little bit.

And then we get out of here and we wrap up this evening and move on to a really good card in UFC London next week. So you know the deal, super chats get priority. Otherwise, we'll chat around for a bit. At some point, bonuses will come in. Before we get to the super chat, while we wait on bonuses, Jose, throw out what do you think the bonuses are going to happen. Let's play the bonus game right now and then we can get to that as we get

the answer. Priscilla Catua It's 100% gotta be. It's not a world. She's not getting one. If they give... It should be four for the bonus bonuses, I hope. Yeah, I was going to say, if they give a fight night, it'd probably be Hernandez, Hallibow, but I doubt it. So I would give

it to the two ladies that keep the card also Carly and Priscilla. probably Kevin Vallejos and honestly probably DeMond Blackshare just because Chitty missed weight he can't get it. Frentzen Havaro missed weight he can't get it. Probably those four, right? I think Cashewara is 100%. There's just a lock for Casuala.

There's just not a world. I think Carlos Vera is going to get it. This is the biggest underdog of the year and he knocked out. That's true. That's true. I hope he gets it. I hope he gets it. Oh, he deserves it.

He knocked out and submitted a dude. You should always get a bonus when you beat them both ways functionally. Big underdog. I would give it to Monblockshire because that's really cool. And I'd give it to Hibero too because I just didn't think that was going to happen. Because, like, you don't ever get it from there. And it was like, oh, I was like, that's not a real thing. And then suddenly, oh, no, he's actually going to tap him with this.

So I'd give it to those. Sorry, Chris, be Carly Judis, but you got to win finally in the Octagon. It's your first time winning in the Octagon because you lost. on Contender Series too, so take that as solace. And now, Casey, now we can go to the questions. And at some point, we will find out whether that's true. Oh, we got them. And correct, we are correct.

There are four performance bonuses. And they go to, wow, okay, mixed bag here. Of course, Priscilla Cashuera gets it. Andre Lima gets one for his submission win and beat down of Deni Barras. Carly Judeeis, who opened the show, does get one. for her head kick finish and Carlos Vera closed it out with one for his head kick into submission finish as well so fine nothing wrong with that but it's not sure demone so vera was the only submission that got it all the rest of our knockouts correct yeah because but ufc hate they

they really try the best not to give submissions bonuses so no no Lima got a submission lemma choked it oh okay never mind it's 50 50 so two to a piece so the two women at the start of the card and then the first three fights of the card and then four of the first five the Sam Hughes Stephanie Luciano was the breaker

otherwise four of the first five bouts gave us performance bonuses which can't be a thing that happens all that often yeah that's very rare that's very rare yeah I guess Balejos didn't get one

just because he was such a favorite I would assume almost certainly I don't think he needed to get one Yeah, that was cool, but he was a minus 600 favorite. That's what he's supposed to do. You just did it. All right.

All right. Let's go to the peeps. We'll go for a little bit. Congratulations. Everybody got 50K. I hope you never begged for money again. That'd be great. John Miller, Jed, Climb Drama, early round three to Leeds A.

For those of you don't know, I have a gambling gimmick called the climb. I'm trying to string together the 30 consecutive bets. I'm on bet 12. This week, it was the over two and a half. And apparently, Marvin Vitori and Roman DeLi tried to ruin that in the third round. I say apparently because a lot of people tweeted

and hit me up about this, like how worried were you? And my answer, my God's honest truth answer was not at all. It's Marvin Vittori. If Roman DeLi had hurt Votori, I would have been a little spooked. I was like, yeah,

Mara Votori's not going to finish this fight. It's fine. And he didn't. So it was terrific. Like I just had no concern that that was going to happen. I probably should have been more scared, but yeah you should have been scared Marvin Vittori wait now and you scored that round at 10 8 is that correct nothing else happened in that whole fight that was interesting okay okay just wait so you didn't actually

say the score of the fight what how did you score the main event oh I had it to draw yeah yeah I want that out there I want that out there yeah I gave the first in the third rounds of Vittori and I gave him a 108 I'm not willing to die eye on this hill by the way guys it does not matter to me whatsoever i thought delizzee won one rounds two four and five if you wanted to score round one for delizzee i don't think that's wrong either i i scored it for vittori scored the third for vittory and i thought that he you know did something substantive and truly damaging and so that's worth more than just one point to me did the better fighter though win the fight oh i have no issue

with Roman winning. If someone's going to win that fight, it should be Roman. Okay, because I know like round scores are kind of different. I guess, you know,

because you know, because are stupid, but I was just wondering. And also, sorry. Roman won that, like, more than comfortable than winning.

I also knew that, like, no one was going to do that, and that's fine. And, like, I think it 3-2 Roman is the probably, like, the correct score.

Yeah. But, like, if you want to give it 4-1, Roman, that's fine, too. I don't think there's a universe where Marvin wins that fight.

Yeah. And real quick, before we go off the main event, so I'm interested in your opinion on it. Is the Marvin Vittori era as a top 10 middleweight? Is that done? I don't know. Probably.

The thing is, he's still super young. He's 31. And, like, he has a superpower, which is really important in that he just can't be hurt.

Roman hit the shit out of him with a bunch of stuff. And Marvin was just like, that's fine. I'll keep. coming forward. And so I just think the division's getting better and he is clearly not improving whatsoever. And so that he's probably going to just slowly kind of drop down the rankings and just be himself. And that's, dude, Martin Vittori got to fight for a title once.

I don't think that that's something you should have expected from his career at any point in time. And he did it. Good on him. He probably is an overachiever. Oh, I've had a doubt. but i'm just kind of curious what people kind of where we see marvin vittory in the the grander scheme of things but uh he should fight he should fight brandon allen next don't hate that at all they fought once on a casino floor they should oh yeah yeah don't hate that at all they're both

coming off losses i think he's going to end up fighting the winner of bow nickel already are the winner okay i think he's got that's where he's gonna end up but doesn't hate don't i wouldn't I wouldn't hate the Brennan Allen matchup whatsoever. Yeah. Yeah, I see Vittori kind of being that top 10 kind of gatekeeper, you know. Yeah. If you want to eventually fight for a title, you got to beat Marmar Vittory. So, all right.

Yeah, he is going to move seamlessly into this part of his career to be the Jack Hermanson. And that makes sense. I think that that's what he's destined to be. All right. Cool. Thank you, Ms. Smith. Thanks, John.

That's another super chat. Oh, it's a super chat from another, from John talking about the big upsets this year. Marcellos, U.S. 311 plus 850 biggest. Barcellus, that big a dog? Yeah, he was a gigantic dog against Payton. I don't remember that, but let me. Oh, he was, because Payton was like minus 900 or something. Yeah, it's plus 7.10.

I mean, it'll depend. That number will fluctuated. but at close looking at 710. Yeah, that's because that is one of the top 10. So this is not as big as that, but we're still talking like a top 15 upset. Right. I know the Bantam weight upset though.

It's all right. The thing is we got a bunch of those last year across various weight class. We're just going to get more of them as the UFC keeps bringing in like hot shot prospects who are unproven. Because like that's what this was too. It's like, yeah, that guy's got like, Like, Jasa has potential, but he's also fought eight times. And sometimes you slip on a banana peel. That's just how it goes.

So we're going to get more of them. But it's still cool every time it happens. But this line, the Barcellos line is crazy because we kind of know how good Barcellus is. And he's always a tough out. Carlos Verre, he's, you know, nice guy. Wow, nice guy. You just got a nice guy.

Come on. No, but yes. Honey Barcellus is obviously. much more accomplished than call those things but Peyton Talbot had just all the juice in the world behind him and still is going to be really good just sometimes he's happened yeah they happen um and uh yeah all right uh thank you mr miller thanks john more super chats uh oh another from worship worship call like it is are the young prospects just bad no they're young prospects um some of them like won't work out because that's how prospects go.

But like, I don't know. Jose, it feels ridiculous to just be like, hey, all these super young, not even all of them, many of them won today. But like some of the young dudes lost, should we throw them all out as useless? No, because when one, you could have a prospect, you could have like seven prospects when impressive fights. And the second one of them loses, they're like, oh, prospects are terrible. Because if you look at the last few pay per views outside of the pay and tall of it

a lot of, there's a lot of new names, like literally last weekend. Maricio Rufi head kicked King Green. Ignacio Bahamundez choked out Jalen Turner. Like those are the definition of two prospects fighting the definition of two vets. One of them, Pay and Talbot loss. But if you watch Pay and Talbot's video, a bunch of Bannonwe said no to Payant Talbot. Henry Barcell was the only one that said yes. Payant Talbot was like, wasn't even the fight I wanted.

and after he goes, that dude is just a better wrestler than me. Now I just got to strap on the singlet and get better. So sometimes, and he said to his credit, Payne was like, I'm glad this happened now rather than later in my career. Sometimes you need to lose to learn. Winner learn. I think P.C. Carroll said that.

Yes. That's a Pizzie Carroll one. The classic, classic Irish, yeah, phrase. Winner learn. Payton also said he got wicked vertigo for like days. after that haunted fight. Because he was just on his head. He was just like being controlled on his head the entire fight.

That's why if you watch that fight, he can't stand up right away because he had wicked vertigo. He has to go to the hospital and everything. All right. Yeah, prospects just lose because that's how fighting works. It happens, dog. Not everyone. When you fight people, like, it's literally why we like to watch the sport

is because anything can happen in a fist fight. And sometimes that's, That's okay because I was watching one card and a certain prospect got knocked out by Martines. And then the guy wind up becoming Islam freaking Machachev, you know? Yeah, that's right. Islamchekov got sent to the shadow owned by a dude named A. John Martinez. Yeah. And he hasn't lost since.

Undefeated prospect, John Jones lost a vet and Matt Hamill. It happens. Yeah. Sometimes unless you're named to be, you lose. It's just what happens. Famously has never lost. Never lost. So change your name to Abee.

Otherwise, you know, give them some break. Most of these are young kids. And also a bunch of prospects showed out. Carly Judis, Andre Leva are sick. Kevin Vallejos. They're all like under 25 and sick prospects. They're not even like fully grown humans yet. Yeah.

They're literally still becoming bigger. People. They would need one of the three of us to go rent them a car. Yes. Actually, yes. That is true. Also, on the Andre Lima thing, I'm so excited about flyweight in like three years. There are so many great flyweight prospects right now.

Like, Josh Van, Ray Surrey, I know they just fought, but like they're both 23 and 22 or whatever. Taira. Lima's like 24. Tyra. Uh, next week's Lonnie Kavanaugh is like 25 fighting. Josh Fan and Tyre were scheduled to fight at one point, too, which is wild. Dude, there's so many incredibly talented flyweight's coming down the pipe right now. Like, flyweight is going to be, flyweight's going to be what Bannonweight is now in like three years.

People are just like, oh, everybody is amazing. It's like, yeah, it's awesome. Yeah, one through 15. They're like, yeah, they're all good. Okay. A couple more Snakes warship I like this one from the Calibrator

Calibrator Is Waldo finally cleared from the slander list? No What? No I'm super happy Knocked out Ryan Span

Jose Heavy weights They're bad How how nice was it For Waldo Cortez Acosta to finish Ryan Span Do you have any thoughts on salsa boy who is a top 15 heavyweight in the world.

No. He's not gone away heavyweight. Six and one inside the Octagon. The lone loss coming to Marcos Hossario Lima. Who just popped. I mean, talking about one of the 15 best heavyweights in the world. Yeah, yeah. Neat.

He can go fight his eve in an apex main event next. Well, that's probably a thing. That sounds all right. Or Taito Ivasa. Fuck. Why not, right? So he did call for either Derek Lewis to tie to Ivasa, which honestly probably deserves. I use the word deserve very loosely here.

But he is on like one of the better win streaks in the weight class. Yeah. And, you know, credit to him. He got to finish, which is not a thing that he does. It was pretty vicious too. It was nasty. He did the shit out of him. mostly that's credit to Ryan Span

because I've watched Waldo Cortez-A-Cost a fight and he doesn't do that. Ryan Span does lose in spectacular fashion though. So I'm going to say that that's more Ryan Span accomplishment than it is a WCA accomplishment. Did I miss the news? But why was Ryan Span at heavyweight? Was this just

something? Is this trying something now? Okay. Yeah, he didn't. Well, are we in agreement that, I mean, I know he lost, but even in it, he looked bad in that loss, right? Ryan Span at heavyweight. Ryan Span looks bad every loss. I know, but you know, I'm just saying. He also knows how to win really impressively, too. He is a boom or bust fighter in a way that I appreciate a lot. I really look forward to Ryan's

man fights because something is going to happen. Yes, like something, wow, the only kind of weird one was the Anthony Smith fight where like the rematch where it was odd and washed Anthony Smith. There's like edged one out over him. But like, yeah. mostly he's a getter-gat got dude so you know he's on a tough run i don't know if he'll get his walking papers i think not but no i don't think so it's not like he was undersized at heavy weight so let him try again he he just ran up against the top 15 guy top 15 i mean he he beat he beat oven saint prue in salt lake and oven saint prue has gone up and down between heavyweight and light heavyweight as well so he basically is is one and one at heavyweight

what I'm hearing from Jose is he thinks that what this sport needs is a cruiser weight division something between 205 and heavyweight for the guys like Ryan Span and Oven St. Peru. Why not? We could give John Jones another title. He can be the champion of that weight class too. Why not? All right. Thank you, Caterbrator.

Thanks, Calibrator. Mr. Signor Pepe, Jed won 11 and 12 on my parley. Vittori lost. I'm broken. That's brutal. Oh, it's brutal. If Votori could hit people with any amount of power, you would have won, then the climb would be dead. It's crazy because the Marv Vittori, Paulo Kostafi, is an underrated banger.

That fight is really fun. And for some reason, and then Marvin Mertory just got the shit kicked out of him by Jericho in there. And that fight was really fun to watch because he never went down. He just got the shit kicked out of him. Yeah, but like it was just impressive to see a human being basically get hit with a bat for 25 minutes. and keep walking forward. The Marmotory, when he's getting his ass beat,

it's fun when he's not, he's awful. You know, didn't he forget his cup going? Yeah. Oh my God. What a poll. I told,

I've never seen this before. He gets out there and they're like, you don't have a cup. And so he walks back behind a curtain to get the cup inserted. I've never seen this out. Tell you what, man.

Mara Mitorre continues to be an interesting man. Interesting. Yeah. It's a interesting. It's a good word. Also, he wanted that cup because he took a low blow that would have been real bad. As Roman was like, I didn't do anything. And the Reeve was like, you just punted him right down the, right down the bike.

Honestly, I'm trying to figure out like, okay, I can understand the mouthpiece. We guys forgetting the mouthpiece. I get that. You know, oh. You forget a cup. I have no idea, dude. Because you, you fill the cup. I mean, you're warming up.

You're rolling in the back. You're, I don't know. I don't get it. But he don't understand. Well, no. Absolutely ridiculous. But credit to him. Thanks, Mr. Signor Pepe.

I'm really sorry for you. That's unfortunate. Man, by the way, though, like, congratulations 11 for 12 is amazing. 11 or 12 is really good. Our staff, we did horribly that. We did our entire, out of 13 fights,

the best anyone of the staff did was seven correct. We all went to the TV. Hey, it was me. I got seven right. I was just looking at my list. Yeah, yeah, you got seven right. Yeah. We all either got seven or six.

We could have flipped a coin and we got the same. Yeah, it would have been just as good. One of those cards. Wasn't terrific. Yeah. But so 11 and 12, that's a good run. It's really a shame that Vittori ruined it. Vittori.

RS 40. Not about this card, but how will you remember the lightweight top five guys when they retire? Seems like they're levels above the next upcoming class. So this has been, Luke Thomas has been on this corner this past week after Gachy beat Fizziv again at 313 where he is I think correctly pointed out to like this sort of crop of the top lightweight dudes

that is at the end of its run is something really, really special because the Dustin Porreys, the Justin Gathe, Charles Olivares, they should have been moved on by now. Like the new breed should have come and removed them. and it's just not happening and that basically never happened I functionally echo almost everything

Luke has said in this but Jose kind of is this like is Luke right my right is this something like that's unprecedented or can we act like the future light weight right now is just what light heavy weight was in like the early 2000s when you had Rampage Chuck Tito Randy Coutor even Anderson Silva would pop up

Forrest Griffin was doing the damn thing like light heavyweight was at one point in time the best division in all of mMA and then they all retired or moved on to other promotions and you know it happened all of a sudden light weight became electric because you had the introduction of uh like edie alvers and michael channeler doing their things over at bellator the ufc absorbed the wc and they introduced anthony pedis and benson Henderson right around the time Frank Yedega and Gray Maynard were doing the damn thing. Clay Guido was still way up there. BJ Pan had just was still a huge name and yeah

he lost to Frank Yeager twice but he was still just an absolute monster in the cage. It happens like once these guys retire I don't think there will be as drastic a falloff because that light heavyweight is arguably the like the worst division of a men's weight class in terms of like top 15 talent like yeah the top is really a exciting. Alex Pereira Pryasca is a psychopath. Jamal Hill can knock a fool out when he wants to and Cleo Roundtree if he gets in the top five is fun, is also fun.

But it's just going to, like, what lightweight is, what light heavyweight became, light, lightweight will become and then Bannamweight will just become the premier division because, again, the top of the Bannamweight division is like those top five right there are going to be the same thing. It's just going to be an extremely fun division 10 years. now. It wouldn't have the same conversation. Probably know it's going to be welts away or flyaway, just how MMA is. But I

also don't think there's going to be as big of a drop-off because, like I said, you got Rufi, you got Ignacio Baja Baja Mondays. I mean, Uzmanor Madov could come in to the UFC and have all kinds of fun matchups. I don't know if his Eads is going to go to featherweight, but he's still fun. I know he's on a two-fight losing street, but Ben Waussanz, and he is still a really exciting fight. Joel Alvarez

is doing his thing. I think, who is it? Is it Lord of it Klein? is he's top little of a client Elvis Brenner like there's a lot of Paul Hughes still out there

Paul Hughes is like AJ Hughes out there it's not going to be as big of it like what light heavy like light heavy like light heavy

became awful like we can all agree it's like one of the worst divisions in MMA in terms of like top 15 talent the top five and even look at the

the Sydney card the two Australian guys Peter Quillan and um crude no Nolan, Tom Nolan, whatever is.

Tom Nolan, big Tom. Nolan. Those are like sub-25-year-old lightweights, too, that just had incredibly impressive wins. And they're from Australia. They're going to be set in the world on fire soon. Ilya just joined the lightweight division for as long as that's going to last. So is this Pentagon of violence at the top five of lightweight,

the most exciting top five ever? I will listen to that argument, and I will not argue against you. they're going to retire and we're just going to find like three years from now like rufei ignacio baha mondays could be a lightweight title fight and that fight would rule it just happens they're undefeat they're both so tall they're both so exciting they're both super dynamic it's got i think lightweight will be fine it won't be as severe of a drop of as light heavy way it was i hadn't thought about the light heavyweight comp i think it's really good because shogunahua was not shogun hua for like the last seven years of his career. We just went on this, we just went on this mad rent. We didn't even bring up Patty Pimlet.

Dan Henderson, sorry. Dan Hennett. We didn't even bring up Patty Pimlet who's like about to fight Michael Chandler. And like it's will be fine. Lightweight will be fine. It is a special time in terms of violence, but in terms of exciting fights, we'll be fine.

Yeah, I do think it is a special time just in terms of like, I don't think that this next crop will be able to replicate just the tenure. But I guess we'll also see, right? Like that's like that's what. that goes. What division could do that right now? None of them. Like if the top five retired or they're all of a sudden another, like flyweight, I think in a few years could be. Banim weight is very exciting, obviously. But outside of that, like if the top five at Welterweight all retired,

or middle weight or heavy weight, like, ah, it's, there's no weight class that could be to do this besides lightweight. Like the middle weight is like the best of just be like can, how long can like Izzy and Whitaker hold on terms of longevity yeah yeah like just hold their ground as top five dudes because this would be the spot where it's like Gachi and Porier like should have dropped off but they're just

not it's like okay I'll fight a bin Juan Juan de Niae and I'll whoop his ass but yeah man look Justin Gachi Charles Oliverer Dustin Porreate these are special special fighters and you should enjoy the hell out of them because you got to live in the time

of the four kings of fucking violence in the sport and it's pretty awesome who knows how hollowies gonna play in all this too we have no idea how that's gonna play out too that could you know pretty fun yeah dude hollow and deporia could just come in and wreck shit at lightweight for the next seven years or whatever arm is armin he's not even 30

yeah like we'll be fine we will be fine also light weight more than any other weight class like drew dober is not a top 15 lightweight in the rank he could like i'm not talking skill-wise because like there's grant dawson i know is the top of the ufc lightweight i would favor grand dorson but if drew dover went out there and knocked out grand dosson i wouldn't be like oh my god major ups are like drew dover is an awesome fighter and i'm never going to not watch a a drew dover fight joel alvers is not in the top of jean i'm never not going to watch a joel alvers

oh he's he's are these are fun fights oh no they dropped him for bahamondas after bahamondos b j l that was super like again bar i mean that's fine but he wasn't he wasn't He was at 15 for like a hot minute. Well, the lightweight division is in good hands. And everyone I just said is like a kook, like a character, like just kooky people. Yeah, the only thing I wonder is with this kind of new modern UFC, I have no doubt the talent will be there. They're just as good. But the popularity and the star power, something, that's different.

That's a, I don't know. Almost certainly won't be. Yeah, I can't really. Yeah. the problem is that's fine well it's not a problem i take the back it's absolutely not a problem because like everyone in that top five a lot of them are like like there's a lot of americans that are very popular but like anasubohama is is super popular like back in the latin america ben wasantini is super popular in france like if they could have big pay-per-views in these countries

and just make these guys superstars rather than having ben wazanini fight in Saudi in Abu Dhabi or wherever like it will be a fun time yeah it's gonna be fun lightweight it's gonna be in good hands but yeah good question R S40 thanks all right thank you R S40 all right what else we got here

oh this one's for this one's for Jose Jose to Jose I need some more comic book wrecks because I got a new book case to fill last time you recommended Daytripper in Berlin both great by the way day tripper in Berlin what else could you

read you should read I'm literally just looking at my shelf right now all right you should read blankets and habibi by Craig Thompson and then you'll cry those are good and I can I should read stereopops died David Mazicelli which is also tattooed on my body one of the greatest things I'll ever read dunk in the wonder dog is the greatest graphic novel I've ever read in my entire life the problem is there's never going to be a second volume so if you don't like cliffhangers don't read that the sculptor will mess you up for sure yep um 8 ball actually anything by Daniel Klaus

anything by the Hernandez Brothers specifically 11 Rockets I recently reread Alan Moore's Swamp Thing which is a masterpiece I reread his Miracle Man which is just absolutely brutal

and those are the ones I would recommend off the top of my head I actually I went to the comic the independent comic convention in New York City today and that was a lot of fun I spent way too much money on books that I didn't need but yeah those oh and footnotes in Gaza by Joe Sacco who is the greatest journalistic comic writer of all time add that to the near the top of list though I would do

those and if you want like series Fables is good Hellblazers is good Fables rocks the let me rephrase the first I want to say 35 volumes of Fables is very good and then it got just weird the first half like the first story arc of Fables is insane Blood of the Virgin was really good from 2023. Anything by Daniel Klaus, any of the Black Sads, anything by Adrian Tomey, anything by Nate Powell. Oh, top 10 by Alan Moore. That's a weird. You could pump those out in a weekend.

Those are a lot of fun. Again, I have way too much, way too many recommendations. I read Sculptor, Lonhose's recommendation list. Very good. I read Blankets in college. Good. Craig Thompson is just good. He has a new book coming out, Jinseng roots at the end of April.

Habibi also read that at your recommendation. That's good. I have all those tattoos on my body. Yeah. Those are mine. And yeah, Fables is like probably my favorite comic books here. I went to, I went to the at the comic convention today. I went to a panel of Jaime Hernandez, Charles Burns.

Oh, Charles Black Hole by Charles Burns. That's a known. Charles Burns and agent. It was, it was Charles Burns. Hyman Hernandez and Adrian Tomenade doing a panel. I'm like, this is so weird that like three of the four greatest independent comic writers are all sitting in front of me. The only one mission was Daniel Klaus, but it was like a trip to see all of them just

interacting with each other. It was very strange. Black hole is the most uncomfortable book I've ever read. It was just uncomfortable to look at the art of that book. But it's very important. Yeah, it was great. just like it made me physically uncomfortable too much. I was at this lecture and like Charles Burns and I'm just tangent on the comics right now.

Charles Burns was like discussing like the difference in like brushes he uses and why he doesn't use cross hatching for like shadowing. And I'm just like this is so interesting. My girlfriend is just next to me just, he goes out cold. It was very funny. I was like, am I a nerd? Am I a nerd? A lot.

Am I a nerd? What is it called again? Black hole. I bet you would like Black Hole a lot. That just feels like that would be right up your alley. Is that the one that made you feel uncomfortable reading? Yeah. And honestly, it was not that dissimilar to the feeling I had watching the substance,

which was a very good film that I was just deeply uncomfortable watching. There was today, let me put it this week. Let me put it this week, Casey. There was a whole part of the lecture where the moderator had Charles Burns explain his artistic choice and how he draws rotting flesh. I genuinely think you should read Black Hole, Casey. You really like it. That sounds great.

I read it in college. It's really, it's very good. Dung the one in a log, top the list for up to answer Joseph Hall's question. Well, thank you, Joseph Hall. If you can find it, it's out of print. All right. Thank you, Joseph. One more super chat.

I'm not sure what this is about, but I'll put it up here anyway. Oh, I saw this. one, yeah. Appreciate the hype except from you since Bryce Mitchell is your favorite featherweight. I'm assuming he's talking about you, Casey, as you drafted Bryce Mitchell to your fantasy team. I drafted him before I knew he was a Nazi. I just thought he was a flat earther. There's a big difference.

I don't want those dirty. I don't want those dirty fantasy points. Well, you may or may not get them. Oh, yeah. We'll see. Maybe he'll see some wins. But thanks Mr. Signore Pepe. I don't know.

Okay, so let's get you a couple of non-super chats and let's get the hell out of it. Also, not for nothing, but Senor Pepe is that meme frog, which is used as a symbol for the alt-right on Fortune. So that's very silly. Yeah. So I'll put this one out there. Because I disagree with it. Pops and Gromance. I think that's Popson Gromance.

MMA fighting was wrong about this card. A lot of finishes and not boring. I strongly disagree with you, Popson. I don't think we ever said that this card was boring. I believe my exact quotes and the quotes of Mike Heck and others were this card is bad on paper, which it was, that it could be fun, which it was, but it is meaningless, which it was.

Arguably two meaningful things happened. that's if we're counting Waldo Cortez Acosta being ranked fighter winning and the main event which nobody cares about like we we just will never talk about this card but if you had nothing else to do tonight you could just be the worst ways to spend six hours yeah I mean we're talking six hours of your life and we saw two if we're if we're being positive meaningful things you know so yeah we saw a couple Kim Morris there's worse things to do then watch people lock and mores on on a Saturday night. If you just have this on, if you're like, man, I'm going to clean my apartment tonight.

Yes. I'll throw flights on while I do other things and then I can just sort of keep up. That's rock solid stuff in that regard. But like, we don't have to pretend that we will ever speak about this card again after this show goes click. Actually, I guess that's a lie. We will probably talk about it on between the links because we sort of always do that. And then that will be the last time any human being talked about this card. And I will be on vacation.

Sure you will. Nice. I know, right. Sky River Rain. You're a terrible person, Sky River Rain. Oh, okay. Whatever. This is most recent comment.

You jerk. I'm not even going to, I'm not even going to put it on the screen. I'm not dignifying that. All right. And our last question, completely off topic because, you know, we've moved on from the card already. topic. Question for Jose. What's your favorite episode

of King of the Hill from David Sandine? I like the Bogle episode from season one. I really like when my favorite episode is when Bobby has to join the Christian youth group,

but it turns out to be like they're all into like, it's like one of those old those like new age ones so they're all into like rock and they skateboard and they throw Messiah Fest and he joins a metal,

heavy metal Christian band and that's when you have he's wearing the shirt that says Satan sucks and his dad's like you can't wear that shirt it's a bad word and he goes which one Satan or sucks and he goes well both and he goes

but why dad Satan does suck and then Dale comes in he goes yeah what is your sir saying Hank Satan rules and that Hank just looks absolutely like he doesn't know what to do because Satan does suck but he doesn't want his son it was a whole thing and then they had the they had the best line in the King of the Hill history.

Besides, that's my purse. I don't know you would just way up there too where, hey, he's like, don't you see what you're doing. You're not making God better. You're making rock and roll worse. Which is so funny.

That is a really good line. Which is so funny to me. So that is my favorite episode. I've watched that. Whatever I need to put on King of the Hill, I'd usually want to put on because it's so good. Have you seen my King of it, my Bobby Hill shirt?

You've seen it. You seen it. Yeah, I've seen it. Yeah. Yeah, that one's good. I don't know you. All right.

All right. Thank you. What does your shirt say, Dad? Say in rules. We are good. Oh, so, um, Oh, before we go,

Casey has a little thing to do because two of us are much loved by a great man and one of us is not. So, uh, maybe a couple months ago we had the wonderful hip-hop artist Action Bronson on BTL and he graciously sent me a gift box full of fun stuff so I'm going to open it right now for you do first up got hey oh look at them look at

them Baclavon new balances nice and they're new balances so you know they're comfortable shit. Count of what shit. Thank you, Action Bronson. That rules and hold on. I think I got

I don't know trying to try to pre-wip these. Ooh, some shorts action. There you go. And, man.

What else I got here? Oh. Oh. Wow. Oh, man. I'm excited to open my box now because I have not yet. I got it today.

I've not looked at anything. A jacket? A little hoodie? No hoodie. Sick. Leaf hoodie. Man. Awesome.

Yeah, so let's show that off. And yeah, thank you so much, Action Bronson. You rule. And I think your fan, Jose might want to. Yeah, man. Of everyone on this website, I'm the, I've listed more Action Bronson than probably anyone in the M. media and I say that with confidence. You are the only, I've told you this

to your face, and you probably don't remember. You're the only one that has ever gotten a good verse at a riffraff. Bird on a wire has been on my repeat since like 2011, 2012. I saw you play at the Markey Theater in Tempe.

You sat on a chair the entire time because you were still a little overweight at the time and you shoved two blunts in your teeth and then kept yelling, I'm a walrus. I remember that night vividly. probably do not. I have seen you. I have seen you live twice.

And even to cherry on top, we have the same birthday. I want some cool sneakers. Let's get it done. That's an incredible bit. I am a walrus. I love that. They were literally like two blunts right here.

Like you used to do chopsticks as a kid. I was, I wanted to say I was like 21, maybe even 20 years old. Yeah, burn on a wire. Peak riff wrap. Yeah. Man, A, B is just, there's some people you wonder how they get famous.

I don't. With Action Brons, like, I get it. He's supposed to be famous. I also really like, I also really like when people say like, oh, what's your favorite Action Bronson song? And I say, I hate everything. And they go, but don't you like him? I go, that's the name of the song. Terrific.

Thank you all for joining us on this wonderful excursion into Action Bronson. and comic books and I guess in fist fights. There are fights tonight? They were. They happened and now they're done and we may never speak of them again. But you know what we will speak of?

UFC London because that's where we are on the road to former World Toy Champion Leon Edwards taking on Sean Brady next Saturday. Y'all know the deal. We will have you locked in. Tune into on to the next one tomorrow. Mike and AK will have you with all the matchmaking. NMAFind.com's great website. It's got everything else you need.

Jose Youngs. Thank you for joining. Peace. Peace. E.K. Selight, and thank you for producing. All of you, thank you for tuning in. Love y'all. You're listening to the Vox Media Podcast Network.