MMA Fighting - UFC Vegas 111 Preview Show | What's At Stake In Gabriel Bonfim vs. Randy Brown Headliner?

Episode Date: November 7, 2025

The UFC returns to the APEX for the second straight week. Although there is a bit of a dark cloud hanging over the card stemming from this past weekend's fight-fixing allegations, Gabriel Bonfim and Randy Brown are set to compete in a pivotal welterweight main event. With the depth of the division, and the title on the line next weekend at UFC 322, what's at stake for Saturday's headliners? Ahead of this weekend's UFC Fight Night event, MMA Fighting's Mike Heck and Alexander K. Lee preview the card, the main event between Bonfim and Brown, and the stakes attached to the matchup. Additionally, they'll discuss the flyweight co-main event between Matt Schnell and Joseph Morales, other potential storylines on the docket for the event, low-key matchups that might be flying under the radar, plus, answer listener questions, and much more. Follow Mike Heck: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@m_heckjr⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow Alexander K. Lee: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@AlexanderKLee⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Subscribe:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ http://goo.gl/dYpsgH⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Check out our full video catalog: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://goo.gl/u8VvLi⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Visit our playlists:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ http://goo.gl/eFhsvM⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Like MMAF on Facebook: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://goo.gl/uhdg7Z⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow on Twitter: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://goo.gl/nOATUI⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Read More: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://www.mmafighting.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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The Downloaded 2. Ghosts in the Machine. Available now, only from Audible. oh yes let the drum sound let the beat blast because we are so back in the apex baby and there isn't a single dark cloud hanging over this building or this event at least that's the way we're going to look at it we're going to try to be positive today welcome to the ufc Vegas 11 preview show a card that i think will actually be pretty fun we have a main event that has some stakes two guys trying to break through maybe break a little bit of a glass ceiling in a very loaded welterweight division it's a start of a big month for the welterweight division this fight we get the title fight next month

we got Sean Brady Michael Morales next week and then we got Ian Gary Blahmohama coming up to the end of the month so big big month for the welterweight division so we're going to talk about Randy Brown versus Gabriel Bonfeme

we'll talk about another bond theme who already lost his battle with the scale and we have the perfect co-host to discuss that but first of all i am mike heck and joining me to discuss all the way in festivities all things ufc Vegas 111 and much more he is the co-host of this preview show is the co-host of on to the next one the co-matchmaker the prince of positivity gosh darn it there he is my best friend alexander kaley aka how we doing you got that somebody just missed weight by five pounds scowl on your face oh you hate to see it mike and it was so

early in the way in the way in four minutes yeah it was really weird my best friend uh yeah ishmael bonfeme five pounds over the lightweight limit officially 161 pounds and he was like the fourth or fifth person to weigh in it was so strange um i yes i have no explanation for it as i as always in situations you know guys i like to say i hope everything's okay with this mail bond theme you know it could be some sort of illness maybe the guy got sick but but uh you know there's no excuse generally there's no excuse for this sort of thing right i mean how do you miss by that much and it's the second time he's done it too mike i don't remember if you remember the the vince bachel incident from uh ufc sepollo i do remember that and viz bachel was like i ain't fighting this dude yeah get bent

vince bachel essentially said just like get out get out of here get bent and i'm like well i don't blame him and that was only three and a half pounds that was three and a half pounds so uh yeah Yeah, the fight's going on as a catch rate anyway, Taco Padilla and Ishmael Bondfim. I think I saw on the feed, I think it was Rubenstein who said, yeah, maximum 25% penalty. And I wonder if Ishmael Bonfem's team knows that

because, again, they were not close to making weight. You tell me five pounds, I say, yo, that's got to be 30, 35. Like, I mean, 30 is like the most we normally see, but I wish stuff like that would extend to like 40% or something. But only 25, maximum in, Nevada. That is it as far as it can go. So Chris Taco Padilla, you know, listen, he wants to fight. He obviously wants a shot to get his win money. He wants to, he's got a nice streak.

But, I mean, it sucks for him that he has to take the fight under these circumstances. I again, I hope everything's all right on the Bonfim side, but also, man, if this is just a weight miss just for, you know, no good reason. It's a really bad look for Ishmael Bonfim. And if he loses, very strong chance he gets cut. Yeah. And look what's happening. Like, the class. we mentioned that's hanging over the UFC like any weird thing that happens you know what the first thing people are going to say is right like that that that is the first thing that is going to be said all over the twitter sphere and the social media world and we'll talk about that we'll talk about the other bond theme as well but please i thought what else you got i thought what else you got i thought

when we got back to the apex my best friend that we would be safe the apex is supposed to be a safe space and we just had chaos chaos scandal three almost like literally almost three years to the day of the derrick midder shylin nerd and becca fight almost three years to the exact day we're back we're back at this again allegations alleged fight fixing all of that meanwhile dana white is firing off some of the hottest most ridiculous takes have ever seen. Apparently there's all sorts of articles being written about how powerful of a gambler he is, the Hollywood Reporter, more specifically. But that's another story for another day,

unless you guys want to talk about it later. A couple of things I've got to get off my chest, A.K. Please, Mike. One, a warning to the viewers. I told A.K. before we went live, he is stunned that I'm even speaking to you right now. I literally have not slept in like 36 plus hours. I did BTL. I finished my shift. I was getting ready to play some softball last night, showed up to the field. Team forfeited. But the plan was even after softball, there was a journey to be made. I got in the car a couple hours earlier than planned, packed up the pooch and drove to Massachusetts overnight, got to our apartment here in Massachusetts at 9.15 this morning. Just enough time for me to take a shower, hop on the computer, and start my shift. So if I'm a little zombieish,

Bear with me. Another thing I will say, I'll solo scream myself for this. Obviously, we talked about all of the fight-fixing allegation stuff, ad nauseum on BT. I think we spent the first 40 or so minutes of the program talking about it, and then it extended it a little bit further. I stand by 99% of the things that came out of my mouth. I think Jed and I covered it pretty fairly. We laid it out in a way where it's, we're very fair about it. There is one thing I said that was not true.

So I want to go ahead and put the accountability hand up in the air. I mentioned on BTL that Derek Minner was a part of the Jason House Stable with the Arridium Sports Agency. That was not true. That was incorrect. I got that one wrong. And I don't even know why I said that. So apologies to Arridium. That was brought to my attention.

And I always throw the accountability hand up when. when I'm wrong. So, and I was wrong there. So just wanted to go ahead and retract that. He was obviously part of the James Krause story because, you know, James was his coach, but not part of a room. So I wanted to get that out of the way and, uh, and just let people know that my bad and I'll do better. But AK, let's talk about this. Let's talk about UFC Vegas 111. Let's talk about the start of the sort of, I don't even say this is the start of the Welterway Grand Prix. for a title shot going on, because obviously the winner of this fight is not going to get a title shot.

But I don't know, A.K., like, this is such a weird main event because, like, it matters, right? It matters. We have one guy that just popped into the top 15 after, in my opinion, a decision that should not have gotten his way, taking on a guy who honestly should be on a five-fight win streak

heading into this fight. he has one of the funnest fights of the year one of the knockouts of the year in my opinion in his last fight in Randy Brown but at the end of the day like I don't know what these guys are fighting for outside of like the second half of their paycheck because look at this division right now

just look at what's happening we got JDM Islam we got Brady Morales we got Gary Bilal not to mention we got Kamara Uspen lingering and other names as well I feel like whoever wins this fight is going to have to win like five more right but like at least they get on the radar right but what are these guys fighting for okay it's so funny mike because this play i mean it wasn't even

supposed to be a main event this was uh on the rio card right wasn't this wasn't supposed to go down in rio and was literally moved just for the reason of like i think they looked ahead and they're like whoa we don't have anything for um november 8th apex card uh i guess they didn't they didn't feel like making matchnell and uh recent ultimate fighter winner joseph morales the main event which is a little offensive but fair um so yeah it's it's they're not even supposed to be in this position but because they are we have to give it this like excised amount of um uh coverage which is a fine which not taking any way from garbara bond theme like i said a good fighter righty brown been around forever a guy i think a lot of fans would love to see breakthrough exciting fighting style you know just

had a few decisions maybe not go his way um feels like a guy who should be right there in the top 10 i'm looking at the uh i was actually just looking at the ufc.com page now like before i get to this fight specifically how many ufc ranked fighters do you think are on this card ufc ranked fighters yeah not in our rank in our rankings i'll tell right now there's only two and neither of them are in the main event uh we do not have we do not have we do not have gara bonfrey or randy brown ranked uh because we have welter rates from other organizations in there So UFC ranked. How many do you think?

24 fighters, Mike, 24 fighters in total. I'm going to do this without even without looking at the card. I'll say three. Five. There's actually, no. There's five ranked fighters in this card. That's way higher than I thought it was going to be. Two of them are women's band to weights.

All right. Oh, yeah. Obviously, number 14, Gabriel Bond theme. He got ranked after, quote, unquote, beating Wonderboy. And then Madre Bruno Silva, Jacqueline and Cavalcanti, 10 and 11. and then we have straw weights tisha pennington and denisi gomes uh pennington 13 gomes 15 i forgot i forgot pennington gomes was even happening yes i think many have yeah we have pennington ranked and we have cavalcanti ranked i think that's it so we do not have any of the wealth that we do not have

either bonfeme or randy brown rank yeah it's a weird fight man it's a weird fight and it and it sucks because i like like bonfine i actually think bomb feme is a guy who could be a contender someday but I think as we've seen recently, all it takes is kind of like one bad performance to really win or lose, really kind of throw off people's perception of you because I think he's a great grappler.

He needed to use a lot of against Wonderboy. Again, I would argue he didn't, it wasn't enough to win the fight, but it doesn't matter. Goes down as a win. Three straight Ws. So I think this is a huge, like for Gabriel Bond fame,

excuse me, I think this is a huge fight because I think he needs to remind people sort of why he was sort of so hyped coming in, he was a nice run to his first year of sea fights again listen he he lost to the brazil killer nicholas dalby's no shame in that uh so there's there's still a case this guy can make now he's like you said like he's far from an actual title shot i mean we're talking this isn't even the kind of win that like if he if he ran through randy brown let's say he got some crazy first round

submission that like oh this will put him on a short list somewhere now he's still on a long long long list i mean if gabribon fiend's going to get there you're not talking about him fighting for a title until like 2027 like we're not even saying 2026 that there's some course of events where this could happen extremely unlikely um the same probably does go for randy brown as well it feels like because he's more veteran because we've seen him more because you know he has a fighting style i think the ufc likes that maybe he can sneak into that title picture conversation a little bit easier uh but the downside to be around the ufc for so long is the matchmakers and the fans kind of already have perceived you a certain way you know i think they view randy brown is like oh

this guy's a very good welterweight you can put them in there with anyone for a competitive fight but we expect him to well you know win two and lose one win three and lose one we're not we're not really looking at this guy as a as a title challenger so uh i think title talk i guess it's it's it's almost just just doesn't apply to this matchup so i mean what they're fighting for is maybe getting to a top 10 ranking which neither man has ever done especially randy brown randy brown feels like the talent's been there that that's really his goal i think right now i think look this is one of those cards that and we kind of touched on it last week we said last week is going to be a fun And it turned out it really wasn't that fun of a watch outside of a couple of things that happened, mostly the co-main and the main, but it would be forgotten about. We wouldn't even be talking about it come Monday. And obviously that wasn't true, but it has nothing to do with like, you know, actual fights and, you know, just regular fight storylines. There's just allegations and speculation and all sorts of stuff that, like, cannot be ignored. This card, aka, I, I, I, I, I, I,

Like, this might be a hot take, and this is me being positive. You know me. I have, I've said for a couple of weeks, I like this card better than last weeks. I think top to bottom, I think there's more potential for more fun here. But this will be the most throwaway, most forgotten card of 2025. Because the second this card is over, unless there's another weird scandal or something, we are lockstep full on full send to UFC 322 this will be so far behind us because we're going to be talking about UFC 322 it's just a weird time to have this card like I almost wish

this was like December 20th where it's like the last card of the year and then gives us something to go out by but this is just one of those things which is odd timing there's a lot of negative energy going on right now and then you have arguably the best pay-per-view of the year in the most anticipated fight of 2025, literally a week later. Mike, I can't believe I'm saying this. I think the UFC has too many cards. I might be the first one in the MMA sphere to admit.

Yeah, I think the UFC is too many cards. Listen, I know I'm being a little facetious here, but you guys have to know there was a time in my life, maybe like 10 years ago, where I kind of envisioned that this is where the UFC would go, of that it would become a point where they would have a card almost every week. Now, when I envisioned that, I envision it in a positive way. I had sort of hoped the talent level would continue to grow with the speed,

with which the UFC, with which with which MMA itself was growing. So I, like, I'm one of those people. I was really excited when they started doing, you know, 20-something cards a year, 30-something cards a year. I was like all in, all in. Like I had friends who definitely started getting phased out already then who already started feeling it was getting oversaturated, but for me I was all in. but but as you guys have all seen of course the talent level has not matched the level of which the business has grown right it's because the money you know we say the money hasn't gone up it's not going to attract those it's not going to attract top tier athletes it's not going to attract um you know a more diverse group of people that could potentially again help the sport grow so that's just the unfortunate truth and that's why we're ending up with cars like this guys where we're like we have to ask what are they fighting for i feel like we've had asked that about many uh UFC fight night main events this year that's unfortunate because it's the exact same thing is

last week. Like, I feel like this is. I know. I'm having deja vu. Like, I'm having huge deja vu. Um, but and it's not just last week. We've said it with other cars this year, right? And, and it's no fault of the athletes involved. Like we, you know, this is the fighters. Yeah, the fighters are taking event, have these opportunities and great for them.

But, you know, you can't tell, you can't force fans to care about something. So I would love to tell fans like, listen, Gabriel Bonfrey, what a great story he has. Randy Brown, what a great story he has. And they both have great stories. But if you're a fan and you say, well, I don't care, there's nothing I can say too, make you care. And I don't even blame the UFC. Like, I don't even think the only thing I blame

the UFC for is, again, like I said, oversaturating, having too many events. But not being able to sell certain fights. I mean, what can you do? It's just, this is the, the bed that they've made for themselves. So I'm like, I'm not entirely sure where I'm going with this ramble. I just, yeah, I feel like I had to vent a little bit because I hate to talk so negatively about cars and about the fighters and the cards. But I think this, like you said, this is sort of a feeling. And then with all the gambling stuff, the I poke stuff, all these controversies refereeing controversies judging controversies they just pile on pile on and it's just it's just hard to really get excited um about these sort of again weekly uh seemingly throw away events yeah i mean like

the ufc is those three letters are so powerful powerful right now but this is like this is like what like if we're talking i'm trying to find like a good comparison this is like pfl mena to pfl is what these cards are like it's this is UFC as Jed always quotes every so often this is UFC contractual obligation like we're just we're just chucking darts

at names on the board and then okay these two these people can fight each other because we have to do it like we have to fulfill this fight card and it's kind of a bummer like it's just it's just kind of a bummer like I get I get I want to say this very clearly and AK was with me

I think this is going to be an enjoyable watch. Like, I think if you watch from start to finish, like, yeah, it's at the apex, so, like, you're going to lose two points just because of, like, the vibes. It's bad. It's soulless. It's empty. It's just not the same as hearing a big crowd.

But it's just, I don't know. I want to be excited. I want to be. And, like, I'm excited for 322. I'm excited for guitar. Like, that's a damn good card. Like, that's big fights. big stakes across the board. Last week, good main event with two searching fighters, but

like literally fighting for nothing outside of like just extending their win streak. Because not like Steve Garcia even says it himself. Like he, he doesn't, he thinks if he wins like his next three or four fights in 2026, he's not getting a title shot. So how are we supposed to believe in him to fight for a belt in 2026? But he doesn't even believe it, which I respect the hell out of. That is a realistic view. He might be the only realistic fighter on the roster right now. And same with this Welter. same with this Welterway fight. Like, it's a good

win. Put you like a notch up a little bit. Like, Randy Brown will be ranked. But like, who's he going to fight? He's going to fight a dude outside the top 15 more than likely who's on like a four-fight win streak that nobody else wants to fight. That's kind of where we're at right now. But I do like this fight. I am

intrigued by it. I think Randy Brown is vastly underrated. And I think Gabriel Bonfibis is a good fighter. But here are the betting odds currently. AK. We do have betting odds here, courtesy of Fandule. Gabriel Bonfine, the favorite. Minus 184. We're approaching 2 to 1 status. The comeback on Randy Brown plus 148. What's you got?

I'm kind of like of the underdog here. Kind of like you're Randy Brown. I, you know, when I first thought about this matchup, I was thinking, okay, we could be headed towards another Splitty City. We could be, again, you know, a lot of grappling heavy stuff from Bonfee. Not that he can't strike, but he did what he had to do against wonder boy i think he knows you know in that situation against a stand of specialist like that wasn't going to go his way wasn't going to go his way if he tried to engage in a kickboxing battle with wonder boys so you know he did what he had to do he might mix up a little bit more with randy brown

but randy brown is also really dangerous on the feet and you know he's got those physical dimensions that are just like so tricky so tricky for uh for anyone to deal with so i think again we will see gabriel mixing the martial arts or say maybe not mixing the martial arts and again focusing on on wrestling, jiu-jitsu and such. But, but a difference between this and the Wonderboy fight is we are talking about five rounds. As far as I know, I'm just checking real quick. Gabriel Bonfim has never had to go five rounds before. He's been booked in fights that are four or five rounds, but he's never had to, he's never fought past the third.

That's a big deal, man. That's a big deal. Randy Brown, I guess he hasn't either, right? Not in the UFC, right? No, this is his first shift. Yeah, Randy Brown hasn't. I'm looking through his regional career, has not ever. But I don't know why I just have more belief in him in a longer matchup.

I think I just, maybe it's because that's never been part of the Randy Brown story. I've never seen him go to distance and go like, oh, man, Randy Brown was really gasped in that third round. Thank goodness that, like, you know, he managed to fight to the bell. Like, he's in pretty good shape and he's pretty good at conserving energy. He fights within himself, I guess is a very, like, vague way to put it. But I think you guys know what I mean. I could, like, I could see him getting out grappled early on, but conserving his energy, defending smartly, not, not, you know, not just trying to force.

scrambles that'll again drain his gas tank and then maybe pulling away in the third fourth and fifth round so i'm going to go with randy brown for the upset by uh decision i say unanimous i kind of like randy brown too i think he's even though even though bonfine like has like a more i don't even know if it's like meaningful win is is that is is a stretch but uh wonder boy is like a good name but there are very few who think he even he even won that fight so like he didn't get a ton of momentum and then like randy brown like i think that is one of the more forgotten fights of the year with dalby and it was so good like i went back and rewatch it is sick it's such a good fight

such a nasty knockout i think randy brown got hosed out of a double bonus it was an incredible performance and i think he's got a little bit more momentum right now so i will go Randy Brown as well. I don't think he gets a finish. I think he wins a decision. I think it's one of these fights where like even, and I talked to Randy and he basically said himself like, unless he hugs me

the entire fight, he's not going to beat me. And I kind of look at it that same way. If Bonfim can get takedowns and control him, I think it's his best chance to win. But if we're standing on the feet, I think Randy Brown is a really good chance to pull away here. So I think certainly

worth the squeeze. as far as going with the underdog. But as much as I think we'll enjoy this fight, we know that this is not even your main event. No. No, tell the folks at home what your main event is. Mike, were you asking me, was it you that asked me last week on?

No, who asked me if this was an actual co-made event? It was you, right? It was me. I don't know. We talked about this. Yes. So this is, guys, this is a co-main event. This is not just a penultimate bout.

This is not just a second-to-last bout. It's a co-made event because we have a champion in it, guys. ultimate fighter 33 champion uh ufc two timer joseph morales the amount of people who do not remember that joseph morales like fought for the ufc before is i don't know a number it's a lot of people i feel like every time i bring it up um some people were like oh he won his ufc debut at the tough finale i'm like guys he was in the ufc before he he won a he cashed a ufc $50,000 performance of the night bonus in his first run and then he fought like i think he fought like davis and figurado like he had some tough matchups and then got sent out now he's got to another veteran in the great match now who mike

is hanging in there man i mean we thought retired we thought this guy at some point is just kind of like you know suffering his strings of luck getting knocked out badly um matchtell's been around so long but he won his last fight against another guy who's kind of always has like one foot out the door you know beats jimmy flick um now he has like a tough but winnable battle with uh joseph morales but i love the joseph morales story i do think this is a guy who maybe the first time just wasn't quite you know wasn't quite ready for the bright lights also the level of competition was maybe just a little bit too high for him the guys that threw him in there with now he's matured uh he did some great work in the regional scene obviously just won the ultimate fighter um so yeah i i think this is a great fight i just think it'll be a great competitive fight too we always say the flyweight division like you can't even call under rate anymore i think people do know it's like one of the more reliable sources of entertainment on a ufc card these days so they got the right guys there in the culminate i can't imagine and who else they might have picked. Maybe Rick and Simone,

how many Barcellos, but that's not even on the main card. And that's about it. Maybe Taco and Ishmael Bonfine, if you want to do like a brother-brother thing. But I don't think the brothers want to do that, obviously. That's it. So, yeah, we got a nice co-made event.

Go flyweights. And I'm picking Joseph Morales to win. All right. What are the odds on that one? Wow. Morales. How big of a favorite do you think Joseph Barallis is right now? You stopped me just before I looked.

minus judging by your reaction judging by your reaction minus uh minus 350 oh minus 420 oh minus 420

come back on matchdell's plus 310 again I do a lot of people don't have a lot we feel like matchna Mike you know this better than one you saw you thought match now was easy points once upon a time when he was supposed to fight alessandro costa remember that

I'm literally going to spin a wheel. I'm literally going to put every UFC men's flyweight on a wheel and spin it before the next draft. Because every time I pick one, it is like literally the worst pick. Alessandro Costa, injured, doesn't fight the rest of the year. And then I temper off who's fighting a ranked dude, he's going to win, and then gets suspended for a year for a positive drug test. So my luck picking fly whites has been atrocious. Oh, boy. Really, really, really bad.

Rest of the main card, Muslim Salakov, Eurus Menich. I think it would be pretty fun. Age-appropriate, let's go. Age-appropriate matchmaking, Chris Medea, Ishmael Bonfim, at a catchweight. It's not a lightweight fight anymore. Boy, we could have a new middle-weighty, middle-weight champion. I like Marco Tullio a lot, but Christian Leroy-Duncan is, he is making a strong case to just get off the blocks and take that middle-weighty, middleweight title and make it his own. Why is this on the main card?

I don't know. Tuleo's a pretty good finisher. Okay. I always assume if they open up a main card, either for guys with name value or they think the fight went into to finish, which I guess is possible. But Christian Lee or Duncan,

a guy who I really like is a little like unpredictable. You do feel like you can maybe get an exciting finish at him, but sometimes he just gets involved in these, as you said, my kind of middleweighty, middleweight slogs. And it's not like they didn't have other options. like why why are they so insistent on it just because they're middleweights i know middleweights rule the apex but i don't know mike what happened here i don't know i mean he had a nasty finish in his last fight so sure i mean maybe you know spinning back elbowing ericanders who

speaking of one foot out the door yeah it's very public like that could have been his last fight so i don't know but i mean arman petrosion not the best fight of all time uh the andre pulli fight god that was one of the most middleweighty fights in the last decade like brend and allen like had nightmares that night watching that like oh my god i might not be the middle i mean he hasn't been the middleweighty middleweight champ for quite some time but uh he was the longest outside of christop jocco who is the goat of the middleweighting middleweight christop jocco felt like his title was was at stake here so that's a fight that could be that is the Mont, Ketland Vieira of this card, where it could be, it could be really good.

Like, it could be the fight of the night, but it could also be the biggest piece of poop on this entire card. I don't think there's an in-between. It's either going to be terrific or awful. No, Mike, we all knew Du-Mont Vieira was going to be bad. Come on. We all knew that was going to be bad. That's why I was on the prelim.

But I'm like, why not Emil Emers? Why not Ricky Simone, Honey? That fight's going to rock. Emers-Ail is going to be a great fight. I actually think, I know I just kind of slagged a women's mantleweight fight. I actually think Breno Silva, Calvo Conti, could be a good fight. Why didn't they go wacky? Put some debuting heavyweights on them.

Like, it's just a very strange choice. Because nothing against CLD or Marco Tullio. It's just a really strange choice, only compared to, like, what is on the prelims and what could have been that spots did. Strange. Why not the Jackson McVeigh, Zachary Reese catchweight fight? I don't know. That's a perfect opener for this one. Because that fight's going to be over.

in 90 seconds. I don't know. Okay. One way or the other, the fight's going to be over 90 seconds. So a perfect opener. Good for Leroy, Duncan, and Tulio, whatever. Like, Miles Johns, Daniel Marcos is going to be really fun.

Pennington Gomes, I don't think will be all that thrilling. But it'll be a technical fight between two ranked straw weights. That's how I think this goes. And Tisha is like, it's probably going to go to a splity. It's just how Tisha kind of rolls at this point. we have the well the rest of the main card we're kind of going down

from the main card featured prelim as we mentioned Hyder Emile Jamal Emmer's terrific fight love it Ricky Simone Hyoni Barcellus terrific fight Myra Buena Silva

Jacqueline Cavalcante really good fight like this is a good one for Jacqueline Cavalcante this is one to get her over the hump I think people look at her as a for real for real

she wins this fight I'm waiting for you to get to Hockett Jim Jim Minis yes Josh Hockett, Max Jimenez. That's a heavyweight fight. That's a heavyweight fight. They must be banking.

Like, Hokit, I should tell me, you guys, do you guys know who these guys are in the comments? You guys know who these guys are? Well, I think everybody knows who Josh Hockett is by now. He's a character, yes. One guy is 6 and 0, 6 and 1. Like, this is the state of the heavyweight division. It is so, what a strange. And again, I think, you know, you look at this, you say, well, both guys are,

are finishers, but I think you guys don't realize how bad the level of competition is that a lot of these guys are facing before they get to the UFC. Now, Hoke, it did fight for LFA and Belator. So I guess make of that what you will. He was very good for Belator.

Sure. He's one of those guys who were like, if Bellator, like, knew how to promote talent. Yeah. And this is before he got the pro wrestling gimmick that he is currently on right now. Yep. And I like Josh. Like, I've interviewed him several times and it was funny because before his LFA fight I did like a 30 minute interview

with Josh and I sent it over to Casey and he watched he goes why I really like this guy and then after his after that win at LFA he said a bunch of nonsense on the mic and he's like okay who's that guy because that's not the guy you interviewed the dude who followed the contender series is the same exact way he cuts a promo and it's super weird and of course he's a heavyweight that finishes fights and is good on the mic he should call it Derek Lewis pretty much immediately because that's what the UFC does you win one fight you become sort of a headline they throw you in a main event with Derek Lewis in your second fight they should absolutely do that I don't like he should call for it I don't like

his chances against Derek Lewis I feel like Derek Lewis will anyway but yeah there's there go guys this is your heavyweight you want a little taste of heavy weight you don't have to wait long it's it's not pretty early on the cart yeah uh for those wondering josh hoakett minus 420 favorites uh huge favorite probably gets to finish within the first seven minutes of this fight his wrestling is like him or not if you uh vibe with the the the mike skills or you don't uh josh is very very good he's a very athletic heavyweight, uh, who can wrestle his ass off. And if he gets you down, you're kind of in big trouble. So he's a guy who could actually make some waves. Hopefully people will kind of like veer toward more towards the actual fighting itself. Uh, yeah. And then we talked about

Pennington Gomes, Johns Marcos, Reese McVeigh will, we'll kick things off. Shout out to David Chachy. Doing it again. Doing it again. What? More. membership roulette you don't have to do that what a legend i think this second time in a week he's done this thank you absolute hero all right we do have some super chat so please uh if you want to guarantee your question gets up here uh check him in the super chat we appreciate it uh i could use a coffee so help out a brother uh dakota what do you think they do with tacopida if he wins four fight win streak at light wake is impressive although technically this would be not a lightweight win through no fault of his own AK, but still, I think we understand

what this is quietly flying under the radar. Chris Taco Padilla, every time I see Taco on a car to think of a pro pal, you Casey Leiden, that's his guy, training partner. So what do you do with him? I just don't know how far he goes with the win here with this division, but what say you well the problem with the like welterweight lightweight feather weight and so on like these are deep divisions pretty deep divisions it's really hard to string together like you can string to the four uh steve garcia it just got his first main event he's won like six straight fights or something right and even then we keep saying like oh that fight doesn't even move him within like uh sniffing distance of a title shot so that's it's just how it is if you're fighting it up

in 155 145 whatever it may be so yeah he's great man fun to watch uh This is probably, you know, the biggest name he's fought in the UFC so far, but it's not like Ishmael Bonfheim's a huge name. He's not like a top 20 guy. So sadly, like he doesn't move much. And that's okay. I think that's okay for Taco. I think Taco, like, is still kind of building his fan base.

I know he's a veteran, but like building his fan base in the UFC. You know, putting on exciting bites, good results. So just got to keep that going because I'm just looking at the previous guys he's beaten. Like they don't, they don't move the needle that much. Fair or not, they don't move the needle that much. But, yeah, I think Chris Bidea for sure is a guy that hopefully we see stick around the UFC for a long time. Because, yeah, very, very fun to watch. But, Mike, I hope you have your darts sharpened for.

I know exactly what I'm picking. Oh, you already know? If he wins, I know exactly what I'm picking. Okay. You're winning. In fact, you know what? I think whoever wins this fight, I think I know where I'm going to this. There is a really fun fight coming up in a couple of weeks, as a matter of fact, at UFC Qatar,

between Nerulo Aliev and Shemrock who's making his UFC debut I think if Chris wins he should fight the winner of that fight. Damn.

So I'll go with that. Shit, even if Bonfim wins, you can't, like, promote him up the ladder or you send him to welterweight, but if he's going to stick it lightweight, fight one of those two dudes. That's not a fun fight for anybody if we're being honest.

So, let me go there. A lot no preview guys. You want more. Make sure you tune under the show every week. And that is why, AK, and the rest of the world, that is why lightweight is the best division in the sport. Neural Aliev in my actual rankings, and I think this dude is really good.

I haven't ranked 47th right now. 47th. And I think he's nasty. Spencer, my man. Howdy, boys, conundrum. 1 to 10. How do you rate the UFC's year? Started rough, made a comeback with a paramount deal.

Ilya Poetan, other stars winning, cards delivering, White House hype, but now this scandal. Boy. I mean, we're heading into a really big time for them because we got 322, Qatar, week off, and then another pay-per-view. So we're going to get two pay-per-views in the next three cards after this one is over. And that's going to really like sort of, that's where we're going to base this entire. year on but if the year ended right now the UFC is like you know what we're calling off the rest of the year how would you grade the UFC's year overall and we're talking about look he includes the Paramount Dylan here so if we're just talking about business I mean it's always a good

year for the UFC pretty much a plus for a plus like 10 out of 10 however however Spencer is also right to mention the scandal the betting scandal this is serious stuff if we're talking about business boy this can hurt a business real bad so I will ding it to like a nine out of 10. If every year, if every recent year has been a 10 out of 10, depending how serious this thing is, it's like a 9 out of 10. Now, I've kind of been saying casually, like, I think some heads are going to roll, but I think it'll be insignificant players in the grand scheme of things, enough to like sort of put on a show to say like, yes, we're treating this seriously. And oh, you know, we've heard, you know, we're getting rid of the malcontents. We've cleared

up. And it'll be like a few people. Like, I just don't think it'll, I just don't see how there will ever be enough evidence unless a swath of athletes and managers and other backstage people come forward. I just don't see this having a long-term impact on the UFC. But again, if we're talking about this year, possibly early 2026, yes, the fact that this is a topic of conversation definitely sucks. If you're a shareholder, if you're a boardroom member, whatever's involved in these things, sorry, Endeavor and the UFC, yeah, you're not happy about it. You're not striking this off. You're not looking this going like, oh, wow, well, whatever. I don't care of this again. We see.

scandal. No, you, this is an action item. These people, this needs to be dealt with. So slight ding based on that. I don't know if it matters so much that, you know, Ilya and it became, you know, won the second title and put a, Poetan came back. Like, put promoting stars is such a small part of the UFC's business right now. It's sound, that's such a crappy thing to say. So I don't even factor that in. But you mentioned the Paramount deal. You can't argue with 7.7 Billy. I'll tell that right now. So 9 out of 10. Good job. I'll tell you what, man, even if like somehow the FBI comes back is like, yeah, there's a couple of people on staff like that might be allegedly involved in this.

Like you think you think Paramount's going to be like, you know what? No deal. Of course they're not going to do that. So it's not going to affect that part of the business in any way, shape, or form. And I said this on BTL yesterday and I'll reiterate it. I will guarantee you that Data White announces the first Paramount main event before Media Day for UFC. 322. I'm guessing on Monday, we're going to wake up. We're going to have a cup of coffee, some eggs and bakey. We're going to open our laptops. We're going to turn our phones on.

We're going to jump on Instagram. We're going to see a message from the UFC. The big boss is going live later on today. Stay tuned. And he's going to announce Ili Teporia, Patty Pimblit, or whatever they're going to do. And he's going to announce that card because, look, most of us here, we're still going to talk about this. We're going to continue to talk about it. And, but the fan base that they care about, which is pretty much not us, okay, the hardcores that are by, that are going to watch ESPN Plus, that are going to buy every pay-per-view, they're going to watch every single fight that they can throughout the entire course of the year, I think you all know by now the UFC is not promoting towards you whatsoever. They are promoting for the most part. The fans they want are the young, If Alex Pereira met me in a bar, I see Red, bro. Like, that's the dudes. That's the fan base they want.

They want the casual audience who will not care about this. They would, like, oh, dude, that dude, Ilya, who might be the best fighter in the world, is fighting that Irish dude, that English dude, Patty Pimblit. Like, that's what they'll be talking about. That's what they'll be telling their friends about. It'll be, hey, mark your calendars for January or whatever this card's going to happen, so we could bring five bucks so we could buy pizza and watch the UFC card

which is not to pay for you anymore that I mention it so save your five bucks unless you want to play some poker or something so yeah the UFC cannot do they cannot do any wrong they just can at the end of the day so

yeah Mike can you tell me again I hate to jump back here what did you rank what did you have Norello Alia in your rankings 47th 47th? I have him 46th in my rankings. We are such friends. How do we do that? Can we?

He's only fought. He's only had two UFC fights. So like, I wish I could rank him higher, but I just, there's just not enough sample size. Mike, do you hear the band? I think the band is here. Do you hear that? One, two, three, friends forever. I did not have this on my bingo card. I just want to do that. Mike, I just want to do that because I realized there's probably people who watch the preview show who don't watch otto and have no idea what the hell is happening right now so there we go that's really i kind of forced it but now you have to listen to odd no on sunday yeah just to not be as confused as to what's going on guys you listen to otno that's all just go but if you want to listen on to the next one know what it's really about go listen to the

post ufc paris edition that was the most electric onto the next one that was a good one and no one saw it coming nobody saw it coming uh got another super chat from nick davis main hypothetically, my neighbor is a UFC fighter and they tell me that they've been battling an injury and haven't been able to train hard the last few weeks. Can I get in trouble for betting heavy against them? I don't think you can. I think it would be an issue if you told people, maybe?

Yeah. This is a Jed Bishu question. I saw Jed in the chat early. I don't know if he's here, but I do feel like we should ask Jed. I think it's a matter of keeping it down low because guys that's why a lot of these like people are getting in trouble

not just in the UFC you guys saw the scandal with the NBA and stuff listen it happened with us so much this happened in Toronto it was a Toronto Raptor's role player Jonte Porter who got under huge okay thank you Jen

who got under a huge amount of trouble last year he was doing a lot of online betting I think that you know the whole Discord channel thing that's a lot of people do and I think the problem was that he somehow the information that he was going to you know underperform or i think it was actually even just like uh fan of get an get an injury during a game and like go out during halftime or something so that he wouldn't his his props um it's not that he it's obviously that he did it is bad

obviously that someone knows it was bad it somehow got out that more people found out about it so i think you're really in trouble if you started like spreading it and trying to get more people to make money and started this whole thing uh i guess jed's right i guess um uh yeah as long as as long as you're not necessarily directly involved with this person's what training camp management you'd be okay uh jed also says uh in this scenario you have done nothing wrong now the fighter can get in trouble with the oc but they're not in trouble illegally either unless you bet for them so uh hypothetically sir uh i would say go for it i guess right don't brag about it don't brag about it that's so i get like betting heavy i mean are we talking like a hundred dollars because that's that

be like, that's like a big bet for me. Like if you go and drop 10 million dollars on against this fighter, yeah, there's going to be, you know, there's going to be an issue there. Like if we get a a draft king's sportsbook tweet played on the broadcasts, one draft king's better just placed $10 million on Mickey Gall to beat whoever. Like, might get in trouble for that one. So, you know, small don't go too heavy and don't tell anybody because if you tell people that everyone's going to do it and then we're going to see the betting line go up 100 points which is going to be a flagged fight so yeah or just do what AK says just don't bet ever don't don't bet on MMA ever guys just not why just it's not it can't be that fun it's it's a little fun I don't I mean jed

has a blast and his show is great it's a great program no bet's barred check it out uh it should be a big one for ufc 322 all right let's get a couple of other questions yes guys send in your questions now let's see what we got i know joseph's always got something let's see if there's anything we haven't touched on yet we touched on that i'll throw the loki banger question out uh uh what is everybody sleeper for 19 13 Tisha Pennington versus 15 Denisi Gomes. Tisha has won two in a row. Denise's won four out of five.

Winner will get a top 10. It's not bad. I think Denise has a habit of drawing some people into some fun fights. So I could, if she knocks, if she can finish Tisha Panting, that'd be a huge, huge feather in, uh, in, in, uh, in Dinescy Gomes cap. Tisha Pankington has never been, hold on. Yes, never been finished. That's right. Uh, she's gone to a decision many, many, many, many 20 out of 22 pro fights, Mike, Tisha.

Pennington has gone to the cars i'm trying to whoa her two finishes she has two finishes uh juliana lima oh and uh sam hugh i was just gonna say it damn it okay oh i'm sorry i didn't know you were trying i had it yes there were two days yeah sam hues and there's somebody else i was thinking it's like one of the other but that was like sam hughes taking that fight on like two days notice and it was like why are we doing this if you bet the over on tisha pennington for the last like just 10 years you would like own part of the UFC right now you you would be doing amazingly well my goodness winner's not getting a top 10 i can i can tell you that most assuredly the winner's not getting a top 10 i have no idea i had to look at the strawberry top 10 i mean i don't think it's out of the i mean the

problem at she's fought like every single woman already yes and lost to most of them yeah but she's uh she's she's peaking now she's peeking at the at the right time i mean maybe the problem is like I think Alexia Tynara is like better than most of these women and I think like she's the one that I would like to see get a top 10

immediately like I would give her just gone drugs right now like if that somebody like that I would give her I'd give her that limit of test right now I think she is good enough so

you know you know what if Tisha wins that's who she's fighting she's gonna have to fight Tidara next and boy that could be a rough night for her this whole card is kind of made of sleeper and that's why it's a weird question i was like we kind of named like a bunch of fights we're like oh this fight could be good

this fight could be good this fight could be good i'm like yeah and but like none of these are fights that are jumping off the page at you of like oh my like your average fans like oh my gosh i cannot wait for rickie simone and how many barcelos but that could be an amazing fight those are two great band of weights so the whole the whole plane is made out of sleeper yeah i mean i'll go with jemal emers and hider amiel because like no one's talking about that fight but yeah it's an apex card so like literally the main event is on is on is is a low key beggar it is right if this is not another card it's not supposed to be the main event right yeah like if you if if randy brown versus gabriel bonfeme was on ufc 322

that's not even on that's not even espn fight like that's like the fight pass like that's the featured fight past prelim fight you know what i mean and it's a good fight like it's a great it just adds depth to like a card like that but yeah this will like i said this will be a fun watch we'll enjoy it and when it's over we're going to be like sweet we are five six seven days away from

UFC 32 and it's going to be spectacular guys did you hear Marcus Buchetchen is back time to write home yes fighting Kennedy and Chichuku and where else could a fight of this magnitude happen AK there's only one building

and one building only and it's not Madison Square Garden it's not T-Mobile Arena heck it's not even whatever theater they had that UFC that random UFC Las Vegas event headline by

Maraud Walsh William Piotr Jan oh no it is at the world's most famous apex final card of the year heavy weights getting after it

and I truly truly hope that is the first fight of the card so we can all watch it together just like we did with the last Marcus Buchetia fight because it was terrific justice for Budai

this is Bullcraft people who cares we should be talking about Octagon 81 all right December 28th guys I think you need a subscription to Octagon TV Octagon.tv or I think you can order single events I'm not sure but hey get a one month subscription to octagon dot TV

watch a paper review okay Martin Boudai is in the heavyweight main event challenging champion Will Flurry in Prague so Justice for Boudai guys this is bull crap why is he should he should He's still good for the UFC anyway. I'm glad, you know, good for Butchich.

I'm glad he's in the UFC. Boudai should also still be in the UFC if he wanted to be. This may, maybe he has found greener pastures. Forrest, uh, do you think Dana Kay is in books Jones versus Pereira for the White House? Absa to equivalently. All the lootlies, all the apses, unless John, like, gets in serious trouble somehow, uh, unless he, like, fails, like, super fails in practice. That's a big on less.

I honestly, I'll go, like, unless he is, like, imprisoned or, super fails a drug test that fight's going to happen at the white house i will be stunned if it doesn't at this point i'm of the opposite man i'll tell you something i'll say right now i don't think i don't think jones and mcgregor again on that card they might be planned for it i'm saying like kind of what you said the unless the unless is hanging in the air for me i i think stuff's gonna any anything could happen that can prevent those two guys to be on the card if i were a betting man if it were if it were uh had a choosing either or none i'm going none i i i just don't think it's going to happen so it's going to be a big card no matter what how they're going to load it i have no

idea they might have to rely on kail harrison got help us but um i i don't know i don't trust either those guys to show up i don't trust either those guys show up i mean the question is will dana cave and book that fight will there be will will dana go on instagram and announce that john jones is fighting alex perere at the white house not saying it's going to happen will that fight be announced will we see a poster from the UFC social media accounts with John Jones and Alex Pereira with the White House hologram, so to speak, behind the two of them? Will that fight be announced whether it happens or not? Will the UFC announce that fight is happening?

Oh, I'll do you one better, Mike. Oh. Oh, it'll get announced all right. You know who's going to announce it? President Donald Trump. Because I feel like he has been either one step ahead or way, way too far ahead of the UFC. Like I still I'm not sure

Like I know We don't even know When this frigging car is happening It's had eight different dates Already It's not even We're six months away Your president broke the news

You guys got to remember You gotta go back It wasn't Dana White Who broke this news It was the president Obviously very quickly confirmed Very quickly confirmed By Dana White that same evening

But I to this moment Still think like It wasn't official But then once President Trump said it Then Dana White's like Okay

I guess like You know Maybe they'd plan for us. Okay, well, I guess the planning just became practical. Now we are working towards it. And then he announces June 14th. Donald Trump announced June 14th. That's, when you guys see that June 14th, remember, that did not come from Donald Trump in the U.S. from Dana White in the UFC. That came from the president. The president said June 14th, my birthday, me, not you guys know my birthdays every day, Donald Trump's birthday. And that's when he said

the card's going to happen. Now we're hearing it might be earlier. So we don't know if that date was ever meant to be official. So I think if you guys hear about McGregor or hear about John Jones, it's going to be Donald Trump at a random appearance in, like, Ohio or something, and then him, you know, talking about groceries, and then suddenly he's going to start out, how about that U.C. White House show we are coming up, though. Can you believe it? John Jones, Alex Ferra? I can't believe it's really going to happen. And then, like, you and I, we're all going to be scrambling. Oh, Jesus, is it? Reach out to managers. So it'll be announced. Just won't be announced by Dana White. And then, again, I don't think it's actually going to happen. But it'll, your president's going to say so.

I mean, John is 100 million percent. Like, I think Trump is going to be like, John Jones is fighting on this card, whether you like it or not, Dana. And Dana's not going to be like, no, no way. Billion to one, President Trump. Absolutely not. He's going to be like, yes, sir. Absolutely. So I think they will announce that fight as a thing.

honestly it would not shock me if after ufc 322 dana's like at least teases it nah i don't think so i i he's gonna have he's gonna have the gsp bisbing flip around like after the tired woodley damien maya fight whereas like when did your mind change fifth f and round that because he was gonna do woodley versus gsp and then woodley laid that stinker against Maya. And then that night, data was like, yeah, we're doing Bisbing GSP, like before results and done. So it could be one of those things like, all right, maybe it's not a million to one anymore, but we don't make fights after the fight. So he's going to like plant a little seed or two, one of those type of things,

but we shall see. You see Vegas. You see Vegas. Oh, sorry, go ahead. I thought we were your UC Vegas one-leaving again. Okay, I'm sure. What do you think of data whites, maybe worst take of 2025. And there have been a lot. Oh gosh, I don't even know. I don't keep a catalog of these things. No, he dropped it. It is public today.

Oh, you're saying this one. Yes, I know what take you're talking about. I know what take you're talking about. The take I'm talking about is Kabar Usen's the greatest wealth rate of all time. That is the take. Like unequivocally, there's no discussion. It's Kabar Usman. Are you kidding me?

what this is the silliest take of all time and all this does aka is it proves by theory that if islam machochev wins next week we are one billion percent getting kamar ozman no matter what happens the rest of this month we're getting machochev usman next and it's going to make me so upset but this just further this further enhances my take that that's the fight that's going to happen if islam machochev wins so we need we need for the for the for the for the for the world of meritocracy and the next man up jdm needs to win next week otherwise we're getting islam jumping the line and now kamar usman jumping the line one and three in his last four fights silliness yeah i don't know i'll tell you guys uh keep on on you know keep on m a fight

this week because i got no clue where i'm going with this fight pick yeah well i have some idea but i definitely have not made my official prediction for the 32 made event i'm really and also what it means also what the uh i about the implication i know you're pretty confident ozman's going to be in play now but i wonder that man that white house thing really really two things two things obviously the uspn deal ending and then the uh and you know us wondering what they're going to do to kick off the paramount deal and then also what they're going to put on the white house so that first six months or could be five months we don't know exactly when the white house going to be so many wilds it's really hard to keep track of so again keep it out in the space guys i don't think islam oosman is a white house fight

I have no idea anymore I think that's a that's a pay-per-view like they go to like New Jersey with that fight or something they go to Newark for like a big paramount car we need Derek Lewis on there

you know who's going to be on at the UFC would be on there see if the UFC in the world just listened to me and just did Tom Asimel versus Derek Lewis right after Derek Lewis beat Talos and the Shera we would not be in this position right now we would all be we'd be in a much happier

place with the heavyweight division not that we'd be like not that it would be better or great but at least we'd have we're not like rebooking another fight we're not running it back a no contest there wouldn't be an eye poke it would just be the fight would be over in like 90 seconds either way and Derek Lewis wins it's a great moment he says something hilarious he's the man Tom beats Derek yeah we knew this is going to happen but at least you got to see Tom Aspinall fight and now look at the position we're in what a time what a time as I was saying for the UFC Vegas 11, Mike. Let's just enjoy the show.

You know, we're looking, Mike, we're looking to, thank you people for the questions, obviously. You know, we're answering questions here. We didn't bring these out people. The good people of the M.A. Fighten community brought up these questions, Mike. But let's focus on the now.

Let's live in the now. UFC Vegas 11, Bonfiem and Brown. Yeah. Excited. What's that? Oh. We know what that sound means. Okay.

Meets it's time to go. It's a good vibe. It's a good vibe. hopefully you guys have good vibes heading into UFC Vegas 111. Look no matter what the cards are, we're going to be here. Who else is giving you

preview shows? Fan Q&A's 30 minutes before the events, post shows afterwards. Every single card. Not just the big ones. The little ones. The apex ones. The ones in Kansas City.

The ones in Moncton. We're here for all of them. Every single one. Who else? is doing that who else is giving you that every single week uh so it doesn't matter what what the card looks like or what we say about it regardless we will be here for all of you so join me tomorrow 3 30 p.m eastern time we'll answer some more questions we'll have the post fight show afterwards a k and i will do some matchmaking on to the next one what a weekend it shall be and then we can

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