MMA Fighting - UFC Vegas 114 Post-Fight Show | Reaction To Kevin Vallejos Destroying Josh Emmett, Best Card of the Year So Far

Episode Date: March 15, 2026

UFC Vegas 114 was a really fun card, and it was capped off by Kevin Vallejos running over Josh Emmett with ease in the main event. How far can Vallejos go in a loaded UFC featherweight division, and w...as Saturday's Fight Night card at the Meta APEX the best event of 2026 thus far? Following the event, MMA Fighting's Mike Heck and Jed Meshew react to Vallejos' spectacular performance over Emmett, what could be next for "El Chino," and weigh in on whether or not Emmett had his final UFC fight. Additionally, topics include Gillian Robertson's co-main event win over Amanda Lemos and if a title shot is next, the wild Marhan Rahiki vs. Harry Hardwick and Vitor Petrino vs. Steven Asplund fights, other standout performances from the event, and much more. Follow Mike Heck: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@m_heckjr⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow Jed Meshew: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@JedKMeshew⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Subscribe:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ http://goo.gl/dYpsgH⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Check out our full video catalog: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://goo.gl/u8VvLi⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Visit our playlists:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ http://goo.gl/eFhsvM⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Like MMAF on Facebook: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://goo.gl/uhdg7Z⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow on Twitter: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://goo.gl/nOATUI⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Read More: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://www.mmafighting.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:13 We have to learn how to pronounce this man's name after that incredible. performance just mows down Josh Emmett in a round he's a special special cat and I'm excited to be here following UFC Vegas 114 because I see it in the comments already I brought this up at our Slack channel and everyone seemed to agree UFC Vegas 114 an event that took place at the world's most famous apex and a card that led to one of the most Wacky preview shows of the history of MMA fighting may just be the card of the year so far. We've had three numbered events, a bunch of fight nights, a couple of APEC shows, and I think UFC Vegas 14114 is the best event of the year so far.
Starting point is 00:02:04 So the bar is not set that high, but boy, this is a really fun one to watch. I am Mike Heck, and joining me to react to this special event is a man who may have adopted a new child into the family. You can see the sign welcome. Family got one bigger tonight, Mike. Family just got bigger, Mike. But you, sir, you are incorrect. Because you erroneously stated
Starting point is 00:02:31 right at the very outset that the victory horn sounded for Kevin Mjeos and they do not. They sound for us, Mike. We finally had fun. Good fights top to bottom. Nose to tail. We had a good time.
Starting point is 00:02:45 14 still too many. But like, I'm pretty hyped to do this, which has not always been the case in the year 2026. And Kevin, I mean, my smallest adult son, he put a stamp on it. And I love that for us. I'm surprised to see that on the board. I thought he was already in the family, Jed. No, as I explained earlier to people off on, you know, like, it's not like adopting a dog. I can't walk in and just carry him home.
Starting point is 00:03:20 You've got a, this is adopting a family member. And I know dogs are part of the family, far be it for me to say otherwise. But you got to file paperwork. You got to make sure it's a good fit. You know, once upon a time, and I do still have a lot of love in my heart for him. But like, Jean Silva was a guy who could have had the application process. And the fit's just not right. It's not quite the right fit.
Starting point is 00:03:42 But Kevin, I mean, 2026 has been a great year for my family. Much like Carly Judice, who was officially formally adopted earlier this year, Kevin is officially formally adopted. I'm a little sad that AK has him on his fantasy team, but maybe AK foolishly will let him go, and I can bring the family all the way into the fold on my team. But Kevin, you are my smallest adult son, and I love you dearly. Let's bang. I don't know what to say to that, but I mean, so many home alone references can be made in the near future. And that's great. But let's just talk about it, Jed.
Starting point is 00:04:19 I think we both agreed this is the card of the year, but it was capped off by Kevin Vachejos, who just, I mean, I don't think anybody expected Josh Evin to win this fight. I think people expected him to hang around a little bit longer than he did. At least I did. But, I mean, he mowed Josh down, man. Like, this was, I knew this kid was talented. He is built like a brick S house.
Starting point is 00:04:43 He is huge for this division. He's only 24, so he's only going to get better. This is a special catch, Edmishu. Your thoughts on what we just saw moments ago with Kevin Fasje, host, of this first UFC main event. Dude, he keeps getting better is like the thing. And maybe, I say this all the time, because, like, you know, we talk about prospects a lot.
Starting point is 00:05:05 And, like, progress isn't linear. And so maybe he will hit a plateau at some point that can always happen. But, like, the thing that got me the most excited about Kevin was not his first, was not the second Continental Series that he won, which was great and awesome. It was the first Contender Series fight was Jean Silva because I was watching, I was like, both of these dudes are awesome,
Starting point is 00:05:25 and that guy's 21. So he's probably going to be really good. And like every time out, we've seen him get better. I think there is an argument to me, like, you know, we're riding high on the hog right now. Once we calm down, I think there probably is an argument to like,
Starting point is 00:05:44 okay, Josh Schmidt's 41. He is a little predictable, and that really matches up very well for a guy like Kevin. But just on paper, this is the best dude he's ever fought, right? Like, Josh Schmidt is substantially more accomplished than Giga Chikaze was. And, I mean, he throttled him. Like, even Giga had like moments or whatever before the boom got lowered. Like, Emmett was never in this fight from the jump. and again, maybe some of that's the Josh is a little more predictable.
Starting point is 00:06:17 Josh is a little older, but like I was doing the live blog and go read it. And I'm just like, it was astonishing how much pressure Kevin Villiers was putting on Josh Emmett without doing anything. Like when we think of, oh, he's cutting the cage and putting a guy under pressure, we think of like a much more in your face combative style. And Kevin was just kind of cut in the ring and his presence was like physically making him uncomfortable and when Emmett gets uncomfortable he lashes out and every time he did that Kevin just ducked and popped his ass until he finally did it and Kevin like Josh Schmidt was like
Starting point is 00:06:56 okay fine I'm gonna bite down and sit and throw more than a one explosive shot and literally the moment Josh Emmett committed to a combination he got jawed and the fight got stopped like he came forward was like I'm gonna throw three punches instead of one okay was like bet and put his ass down. Like it is this is a special young man and you never know how they will play out. He is 23.
Starting point is 00:07:25 Do you remember what you were like at 23, Mike? Anything could happen to a 23 year old that derails everything for years on end. But like he is as good a prospect as exists in the sport at this moment in time. And he's not really a prospect because he's a top 10 featherweight in the world. Like, I would have bet at the beginning of this week, Kevin Villiers wins a belt in his, in his UFC career.
Starting point is 00:07:48 I am more confident than I've ever been that at some point, maybe not even in the too distant future, this man is holding a UFC golden title around his waist. What's funny is I spoke to Kevin earlier this week and he told me, I'm not in any rush. Like, that's why I called a Cub Swanson. And like I just wanted to get some experience. This dude beat Charles Oliver. Like I'm going to get experience from fighting this guy, win or lose. They end up giving him Josh Emmett, which is obviously a step up.
Starting point is 00:08:16 And now he's going to be probably a top 10 guy come Tuesday. He is just only going to get tougher competition at this point. So this mentality of, you know, I got time. I don't want to be rushed. You bet your sweet took us that the UFC is going to rush him now. So I'm curious, Jen. He's probably getting a shot up there. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:36 So I'm curious, as you probably are looking at the rankings right now. I am. It's your Otno pick. Who is Kevin Vagetho's fighting next? I do. So when we talked about it on the preview show, I was like, I obviously knew about the Kevin thing and not wanting to get rushed too soon. And we talked about like, how does this look? And I was like, if he just wins consummally, that's perfect.
Starting point is 00:09:02 He doesn't have to win big. Then he went and won it. Literally, it probably as big as you. you can other than like a Jorge Mosvidal four second flying knee. And so it's just like, man, they're not, they're not going to temper their expectations right now, especially, and I think this is the most important part of all this. Featherweight's in transition. I know it doesn't, maybe doesn't feel like that to some people, but Alexander Volcanovsky is on his way out. Either he is going to lose the featherweight title in his next defense, or if he wins, he's leaving.
Starting point is 00:09:32 He's going to lightweight. He's basically said this. So, they need new people and they happen to have a crop of them right now. They hate Mobbster Evel and if he beats Lowell Murphy, they're just going to keep not letting him fight for the belt, probably. You know, Al Jardine Sterling's old and not like going to be the guy who shepherds this division forward, but you do have this other crop of emerging guys.
Starting point is 00:09:56 And, you know, Jean-Sovra is not that young. Still has plenty of great years ahead of him. But, like, if you're picking one of these emerging talents to come through, it's not Steve Garcia. It's not use as a law. He's Kevin Viejo. He's 24.
Starting point is 00:10:11 This is a guy who can shepherd this weight class for years to come and build it back up. And it kind of needs that right now because Ilya left it and it has felt weird since then. So they kind of need a stable hand and this is a guy who could do it. Now, what he can do and what he will do are very different things. It's obviously you have to fight the fights and win them. but he is as good a bet as any in this weight class or maybe frankly any weight class in the sport of being like a guy who you could reasonably hope could shepherd a weight class for a year or two and so i think they're going to give him something high up maybe not a de facto title eliminator
Starting point is 00:10:56 because of how things go but he's going to have the number 11 ranking on tuesday looking at the rankings Brian Ortega's 10, he's not in the way class So he's default the number 10 guy in the world at this point I don't think they're going to do Jean-Silva rematch Because I think they will look at that as a possibility to do for a belt Or with a little bit more stakes than it would have at this moment I think Kevin Vigeos He appears he called out Yaya Rodriguez
Starting point is 00:11:24 Maybe not on the broadcast but afterwards I don't think Yaiir will take that fight that fight would be awesome. I would love them to do that fight. But under the assumption that Yai'ar won't take that fight, I think Kevin will fight the winner of Diego Lopez and Steve Garcia at the White House. Oh, okay. That will be my pick.
Starting point is 00:11:46 I would personally love Yai'ir. I just do that. He doesn't ever fight. How do we have any confidence that he's going to fight? But there's no wrong way to eat this recess. The winner of Yusuf is the law, honored Allen. that would also be fine. Shit, the loser, that wouldn't even be that bad.
Starting point is 00:12:02 Like, there's nothing wrong you can do with them. But I do think they're going to give him an opportunity to advance very high up. And so you're looking at, you know, Diego Lopez, or the guys who beat those guys to take those numbers. Let me ask you this. It's kind of, I mean, because we don't know, right? There's the rumors that were on social media about Mobsar, right? Like, maybe he's not going to fight in London.
Starting point is 00:12:28 that he is denying but he is denying and i even said on the people's free fight show like if there is true to this they're going to announce it tonight during this broadcast like they're not going to wait on this they're going to say he's out we're looking for somebody else if there is an issue and he cannot fight next week if you're kevin vajos do you take this opportunity he took no damage in this fight he's already a hundred percent jump you just jump right on it fight back-to-back weeks in main events. I mean, if you can do it. Also, like, you straight up might have to be like, can we negotiate a weight?
Starting point is 00:13:06 Because I don't know if he can make the weight again. If he has to make the weight, then no. Because I think that, like, talk to fires, cutting the sick, like cutting weight twice and six days or whatever, he just wouldn't be worse shit. So no, like, if they won't accommodate the weight portion of things or whatever in that regard. but otherwise yes because I mean look at Lonnie Kavanaugh look at Josh Van
Starting point is 00:13:30 look at the several like shit look at Diego Lopez who just says yes to stuff like the way to get ahead in the UFC right now is to be amenable to however things break my guess is the UFC wouldn't even ask him but if they call him he you know unless they are going to demand he make 145 again which I just don't physically think he could do that
Starting point is 00:13:53 and still compete, then yeah, just say yes, man. There are some big featherweight matchups coming up, so he should at least. Also,
Starting point is 00:14:02 having to do that and fly to England like now, like, hey man, you need to get on the red eye to London, and while you're there, don't need a celebratory victory
Starting point is 00:14:11 because you got to get down to one four, six again. That'd be pretty tough. Yeah, I don't think that's possible, but, you know,
Starting point is 00:14:18 it's a pretty tough ask. I mean, there's so many options here. I mean, if something happens to the Aljo Zalalal fight, he should definitely hop in there. We got Arnold Allen fighting Melki Costa. If something happens there, he should hop in there. But the other issue is something you said earlier about Yair.
Starting point is 00:14:35 Because I think Yai'er is the fight. I think that's absolutely the fight you do. I don't know how Yai'er can just sit back and be like, no, I'm not fighting this dude. I'm not fighting this dude. I'm only fighting for the belt. Like you're just not. He keeps doing it though. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:47 And he's not getting anything. Yeah. And he's not getting anything. So I don't know if he's going to have much of a choice here. before the UFC just says, all right, dude, if you're not going to fight, like, we're just done here. Because it's not like he's a super big star that they have to hold on to at this point. So, yeah, yeah, here is the way to go, but there are so many fun options. He needs to stay ready in case something goes down.
Starting point is 00:15:09 But, man, Ken Vjahos, this dude is something else. As far as Josh Emmett goes, was this his last fight in the UFC? Maybe not. They like him. He's always been a say yes guy. Um, they can try and continue to build names off him. I hope it is. Um, I especially after this performance, it was, again, don't know how much to ascribe to Kevin.
Starting point is 00:15:35 We're giving him a lot right now, but as I said earlier, cooler heads prevail. Maybe we'll be like, Josh actually look pretty bad there. And I think that that's a reasonable explanation that, that he's not going to be his best. He's 41 years old. Like, that's old to be fighting. I would like to see him in BKFC before that gets sad. you know, and I had not considered this at all until AK mentioned on the previous yesterday. I was like, you know, I know he just resigned a new contract, so it is entirely
Starting point is 00:16:04 possible the UFC keeps him around. But I think this would be a situation where it probably is better. He's lost now five of his past six. Now, the one win was as emphatic a win as has ever has happened in the sport. But five of six, even if it's all to top competition, like that's a really bad run. And so I think given how many competitive years left are on the odometer form, I do think it would just be better if they were like, hey man, let's call Feldman.
Starting point is 00:16:35 We won't cut you, but what if you talk to Feldman and just sort of see what kind of a deal is out there? And then if you want, go for it or we can book you again. Because I think you could do some fun things with them and BKFC for a year or two. So I hope it's the last,
Starting point is 00:16:50 time we see him. I'm not, I'm not certain. I'd say it's 50-50 for me whether he fights in the Octagon again. Yeah, it's just I mean, he's just got to keep fighting these dudes. Like, that's, that's where he goes. He's been, now he's been finished twice in a row. That's the
Starting point is 00:17:08 first time that's ever happened. He's been finished in three or four of these losses. Like, it's, again, all to very, very good dudes, but it's not like they're going to let him fight a scrub off contender series next maybe just walk away go to bkfc make some money have some fun in the swan song of your career that'd be cool yeah i think if he was just like yeah can i go somewhere else they'd be
Starting point is 00:17:33 like cool i think they would love him if he asked yeah calvin kater's still on the roster as far as i know and he's lost what six in a row yeah i mean helvin's a guy i'd be a little more interested in not fighting at all whereas josh i'm not like oh don't fight you hang them up but this was was the start of a don't fight hang him up. Dude, the cough and nail was brutal. Because, like, yeah, he got dropped and he ate a bunch of shots. But, like, I think because we all knew it was coming, like, just the way it had gone, when Kevin's throwing the knees, you're like, all right, Herb, you can stop this,
Starting point is 00:18:06 and Herb's talking. But then he hits him with, like, a shovel hook sort of thing, just like right through the blocking window that just plopped him. Like, that's a tough one. when Josh stood up and threw that punch like the dude in Friday the 13th part 8 was throwing when he got tired before Jason not to a dumpster like that's that's what it looked like I'm like as soon as he threw that and like fell over and then stood up and fell into the cage I'm like Herb get in there and stop this fight and he was like nope her I'm not I'm not that upset with it I do think
Starting point is 00:18:43 I do think Herb could have stopped it a little basically the first time I I heard him say, Protect yourself, which was pretty late. Maybe he said it before then. I was like, you probably could just stop this one. I don't,
Starting point is 00:18:59 we all know what's about to happen and saying protect yourself is just delaying the, oh, there he goes. That's it. So waiting on bonuses. I would assume. Dude,
Starting point is 00:19:10 that is, I don't have a clue what they're going to do because I thought for sure that the big heavies were going to get a fight of the night. And I can't. to imagine that that's going to happen over the Rehiki Hardwick fight now. And then I was like, maybe they just do
Starting point is 00:19:24 two fight of the nights because like both of those fights were quite fun. But like, Virginia is getting a, he's getting a performance for sure. And like, Sousa probably gets one. I mean, he sent Belagiochi into
Starting point is 00:19:40 the shadow realm. Yeah, that was. And like, frankly, being Mosquito's performance was better than Manuel Sous. Like, she beat the brakes off. of Moncie, but like that's, you know, they're probably not going to give her one for that now. So my guess is they just do fight of the night and then the two obvious bonuses for performance. But I'd love this to be a night where they're like, hey, we've had some bad runs out here. A lot of great fights, a lot of great performances.
Starting point is 00:20:06 Let's give everybody, let's give more love than we normally do. Yeah, I mean, D1 Kutalaba with the sub in the first round. I mean, that was pretty nasty. Look at, look at him go. A plus fight IQ. you. Elijah Smith with a nice strangle submission. Like a lot of good performance.
Starting point is 00:20:23 It's just a really fun car. Oh, dude. I forgot Elijah Smith murdered a man tonight. That was awesome. Yeah. It was just a fun card. Like, it's great to come on these shows.
Starting point is 00:20:33 I wish we were on 30 minutes earlier, but it is what it is. 14 is too many, but I'm not, I'm not going to be talking about that. Because everything tonight was really fun. Like, what was the worst fight tonight?
Starting point is 00:20:44 Mike Comain? Yeah. Oh, yeah. And that's fair. And that wasn't even like awful. It was, it had the least amount of damage. But like there were some cool things going on. But like if that's your worst fight of the night man, you've had a good evening.
Starting point is 00:21:02 I think just based on some of the things that I've been seeing on social media, I think some people would say the oral by Chris Curtis fight was bad because that fight was also bad. That's actually totally fair. That might be because people also were. That's the exact style of fight that people are even more mad about. so I could see that. Yeah. And that wasn't a great fight, but like...
Starting point is 00:21:21 Yeah, it was just a mauling. Just to see a... Again, if that's your worst fight, pretty good night. Yeah, not bad. I mean, they're not all going to be heaters, but yeah, 12 out of 14, pretty damn good, man. Also, Orwell, like, almost set a record. So that's at least interesting. I mean, he shattered the Welterway record.
Starting point is 00:21:38 I think Colby had the record at 12. He's third all time. Yeah, third all time behind Barab and Habib, and he missed... And also the Habib one. The Habib one's kind of garbage Though I guess a lot of Oral buys were also probably More Matt returns than takedowns
Starting point is 00:21:55 But that's quibbling for no reason Let's talk about the co-main event Julian Robertson versus Amanda Lamosh She won Jillian won had a tough first round I was deeply not convinced she was going to win that fight After the first round I was I mean I was the same
Starting point is 00:22:12 But Amanda Lamosh Just continues to be One of the most frustrating fighters to watch because you saw like after that first round you saw paths to victory and even at the end of the second round you saw paths to victory if you just like throw hard shots in bunches like jillian wilts a little bit she is not a great striker but she just sits back and like let's robertson walk her down and then once she puts her hands on her she just goes to the ground man like it's just so frustrating to watch but jillian bounced back had a tough first round
Starting point is 00:22:44 wins rounds two and three gets on the mic and said I have this record. I have this record. Give me that damn belt to solidify myself as that person. I ask you, Jen Mashu, if you are McKenzie Dern right now, do you open the door for Jillian Robertson? I think you do, because I think she would rinse Jillian. I think that's a really tough fight for her.
Starting point is 00:23:08 But there's no way this performance makes the UFC think, eh, you know what? John Whaley, you wait. Let's give Gillian Robertson the shot. They definitely don't think that. I mean, Dern probably wants McKin once to face Zhang Wei Lee. She's a champion and champions want the best. And she's ready to take that challenge.
Starting point is 00:23:30 But if the UFC offers are Jeline Robertson, which based on how things go, they might do, who knows now, she should take that fight. It would be one of the better fights for her. It's not every matchup where McKinsey Dern is better at all phases of the game. I believe she is a better wrestler, well, maybe not a better offensive wrestler, but she's much more athletic, much more physically impressive,
Starting point is 00:23:57 obviously a better grappler. And I think she's even a better striker than Julianne Robertson, so, like, lines up very well for her to win that fight. So if they do it, great. But, I mean, I do want to give some love to Jillian Robertson, who I thought was cooked after the first five minutes, because I forgot who, not who Amanda Limos is, basically.
Starting point is 00:24:20 And I fell prey to the Amanda Limos trap, which is, man, she is athletic and very talented and should actually be extremely good and is just kind of not. Like, she's not bad. She fought for a title, though that was as much about timing. It's not like she was on like a 12 fight win streak to get there. But like you see all of the potential that exists in her, but you also see how she probably doesn't like have it between the ears all the way and when things start going downhill for her can kind of continue
Starting point is 00:24:56 because listen to her corner between the second and third rounds they're like look we know she's just going to tackle you don't kick move and punch and you will win and then she gets tackled like it is by like again not even the greatest takedowns um robertson was robertson looked re as slow as she's ever looked in there tonight and was still just kind of gritting her way to get willing her way to the spots and limo she couldn't really like all her resistance was in the first round and then it just sort of fell away so i mean that is a testament to jillian
Starting point is 00:25:35 robertson because i was genuinely like oh she's she lost the first round by a lot wide margin and this is not going to get better. And then it did. So credit to her man can't probably the best Canadian fighter in the world. It's very possible. I think she's definitely going to have to fight again after this. It's just she this just was not. I mean, if she just steamroll, if she steamrolled Lemos and tapped her like in a round or two, you have a case where she could like sit back and wait for something to happen at least because they're going to go at Zhang anyways. Like there's, they're going to go with that fight. There's no way Gillian was jumping the queue there.
Starting point is 00:26:15 But at least like she, she had a case to sit back and get the winner. She don't have it now. Like this is a good win, but this is not, this is not the type of win that's like, yep, no doubt about it.
Starting point is 00:26:26 Dana White would go to a press conference to be like, yeah, she's getting the winner of that fight. So, I mean, just to give away a not no pick, Tatiana Suarez is fighting Lupi Godinez.
Starting point is 00:26:35 She's going to fight the winner of that fight. And then if she wins that fight, then she'll get a title shot. Like, that's just what it is and she honestly she better hope that Lupi Godineas wins that fight because she's gonna have a rough one
Starting point is 00:26:49 with Tatiana Suarez I think Tatiana might be a real bad fight for her and that could be a tough watch and also just a horrible fight to watch it'd be like three strikes land of that entire fight wouldn't be great that'd be rough Jose Delgado gets the splitie over
Starting point is 00:27:04 Andre Fili did you agree with that decision uh yeah but I mean, that was like the third round was a bit swinging because I thought they were 19s heading in. And I think I, I, this is the worst analysis. Pride rules, I think Delgado did more. And so I'm not upset about it. But if you scored that for Philly, I got a single problem with that one either. Yeah, it was very close. I thought just kind of watching it just kind of watching it live, I thought Philly might have done enough. close. It was close. I didn't think it was
Starting point is 00:27:43 like a very, very competitive fight. I didn't think it was totally egregious. I think there were other decisions that probably there's one like actively bad decision on this card. This one like I know robbery that that is to me
Starting point is 00:27:59 one of the definitional like could go either way I will not be upset whoever gets their hand raised. Trying to see if we get bonuses anywhere. Don't see him yet. We'll let you know as soon as they come. Apparently Heidi Andrell told Kevin Vios he's getting $100,000 performance bonus. It is, you know, backstage. That's what the chat has said, but I haven't seen an official anywhere on it, on what the
Starting point is 00:28:21 others might be. Yeah, I know there's people who, those people who are there that I'm trying to, like, look at their Twitters to see if. Oh, I got it. Oh, we got them. What are the bonuses? 100K performance for Vajajos and Manuel Sosa and Fire the Night, Rehiki Hardwick. And then 25 bonuses, 25K for the other finishers.
Starting point is 00:28:42 as is the new standard. So what we thought, kind of the chalk answers. Tough night for Elijah Smith, who killed a man. But, you know, tough night for me and be a mosquito who genuinely, I mean, Vrgeos had the most impressive performance of Saturday. The second most impressive was unequivocally be a mosquito, who looked like she should have been a minus 2 billion favorite of Osirondon, but also she was a minus 700 favorite.
Starting point is 00:29:11 So, you know. So, well, she looked every bit of it. Yeah. Give, I mean, she beat the brakes off that woman. B is fun, man. She is real fun. Also just like, give her a big step up. Real, real tough beat for, uh, freaking Aspland and Petrino who went hammering tongs for
Starting point is 00:29:31 freaking 15. Yeah. You couldn't just throw an extra fire of the night on them. That would, I mean, maybe they got a one of those backdoor deals, Jed. I mean, I hope so. But that. They should be like, do you see, do you see Aspline's face after that thing, man? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:47 He got jacked up. He was, that was just, I laughed a lot during that fight. That was just a lot of fun. That fight was when I was like, oh, we're going to have fun tonight, man. Like that, because other stuff had been happening that was good. Like, I'm a big Elijah Smith guy. I think he's got a world of potential. That was dope.
Starting point is 00:30:08 The Eric Anders, Brad Tavares fight was like sneaky fun, which I did. I thought that fight might suck and so for that fight to be like really fun I was like wow this is good be a head slaughtered a woman you know like there was some good stuff happening but when that fight went heavyweight in the best way
Starting point is 00:30:26 instead of being like because that could have been real heavy weighty heavy weight we could have got Ty Talusin real quick yeah like after four minutes they were both gas to shit but that's not what happened you know you've got Stephen Aspline pretending to moon him he dropped Petrino like
Starting point is 00:30:41 twice. The optics are great because you've got an ex fat dude who's still like super flabby versus this man just carved out of wood, but they're both equally as gassed and just swing in wild haymakers and cracking each other. I was like that is the peak of bad heavyweight fighting. Like that's that's what you hope for. Oh, it was so fun. Uh, we mentioned Rihiki Hardwick. That fight on the people's free fight show, that fight went exactly the way I thought it was going to go. Like word for word, how I predicted it, that Hardwick would have some moments in the first round and then where he was just going to beat the brakes off of him. And then he was just going to tough it out to the point where it's like,
Starting point is 00:31:23 he had some moments in the second round because he's so damn tough. Yeah. He would be like in his face and then get smacked with the like, like right when I forget who the referee was, was like thinking about getting in, Hardwick would just fire one from the hip and clock him. And be like, all right, I guess we're still fighting. He was just getting tuned the F up And then he just like Couldn't throw hands anymore
Starting point is 00:31:48 Because he's getting ripped to the body So as like he's getting punched to the body He somehow sneaks his right foot up And like kicks bar one in their face Kick him That fight was super fun That's like Second or third on fight of the year rankings right now probably
Starting point is 00:32:06 Yeah good for Hardwick man I mean not good that he broke his job But dude went in there and battled. This is not a great stylistic matchup for him, but he went in there and battled and lost and now is a broken jaw. So there you go. We mentioned Iwan Kuchelaba, beats Omar C, submits him in the first round. I assume the decision you would like to discuss that you didn't like was the flyweight fight. Charles Johnson. I don't really feel compelled to discuss it, but I don't think that that was the correct decision. I thought Bruno one, too. Yeah. I'm not
Starting point is 00:32:40 first two rounds. Sure, it's an outright robbery in like the most egregious of fashions, but I was surprised by the outcome. I thought Charles Johnson a very strong finish to the fight, but I thought he needed a finish to the fight and did not get that. And so A.K. gets some points from old Charles Johnson, which maybe he doesn't deserve, but good for Charles Johnson, who kind of been screwed a little bit earlier this year and now gets at least some modicum of you got kind of skirt in this fight too if we're being on.
Starting point is 00:33:17 Well, kicked the balls twice. That's actually totally, totally fair because the second one happened immediately upon a restart and I was just like, Keith, you got to take a, we just saw this last week, you got to take a point, my guy. And then Michael Bisbing said something that just drove me crazy. He's like, oh, you can't take a point here. He didn't, he obviously didn't mean to do it.
Starting point is 00:33:38 What are you talking about? This is the second one in like 10 seconds, dude. Like, stop saying that. Like, we got to start taking points. Ah, you can't take a point. Yes, you can. Yes, you can. This is a sport.
Starting point is 00:33:48 Happens once. All right, accidents happen. But what happens immediately again? Take a point. Once you get to two, take a frigging point. Dude, when it's that close, like you just, the optics is not doing it. It was literally immediately on restars. The first strike thrown on restarts like, man,
Starting point is 00:34:07 buddy you gotta just you gotta take this i also unrelated to anything me and shee and a shoddy are currently texting each other about mackenzie durn um dominating jangui lee and jilliann if you want to know what my saturday nights looking like now boys so for the so i i'm glad you mentioned shaheen uh while i was covering raf six for our r a five excuse me uh i got to meet shehine al shoddy for the first time did you in person yeah that's terrific hose and i wrapped up the press conference We wouldn't grab a bite to eat and Shaheen met us out. He is a large man. Like he is very tall.
Starting point is 00:34:43 He's like 6-2 or something, I think. Yeah, he's a big man. So it was great to be. And fairly broad as well, you know. He texted me earlier this week because I was covering Hype Brazil. We were covering Hype Brazil. And he saw the tweets and was like, man, I'm having the best time. I was like, me too.
Starting point is 00:35:00 This is the best. It's so fun. What a week we've had, Mike. So much fun this week. This has been a great week. We had the rousey presser. We had the press conference and the brawl that turned in both fighters being put on shoulders and like shaking hands after it. It was the weirdest week ever.
Starting point is 00:35:19 But we had a great time. We mentioned Vitor Petrino, Stephen Aspen, what a great fight that was. We mentioned McDibeck Oralby's 19 takedowns in his win over Chris Curtis, which. Dude, you remember when Chris Curtis had a 100% takedown defense like three years ago? Man, that just stopped happening. interesting is we so hard to take down and then that was when i was like because a k said that yesterday and i was like that used to be true it's not really true anymore and i was really confident in or by in this one as a result of that uh but like it was just sure it still was jarring to see him
Starting point is 00:35:54 be taking down like 20 times like dude that your whole thing was that people couldn't take you down yeah uh mentioned a lot of smith good win min well so is a great win eric anders rat tovarez nasty kale yeah that was slept them that was that was nasty uh the photo after him just standing over the lifeless body is just man what a photo uh you mentioned anders tovars ended up being a non middleweighty fight ended up being really good and they find one of eric his career yeah eric uh announces retirement and happy trails to your boy we met er ganders could also go to bkfc i'd be okay with that yeah sure he just you just He just wings big shots.
Starting point is 00:36:40 That's fine. Eric's pretty, like, stout business guy. Like, I know he's opening a bunch of gyms and stuff. So I think he's, I think he's doing okay. I don't think he fights again. I don't think he needs to fight again. And, you know, what a way to go out. You have a fun fight with, with Brad, and you get a win.
Starting point is 00:36:56 That is a good, solid way to end your career. Yeah, that's perfect. Most people don't get anything remotely that good. Yeah. You beat Chris Wyman. You beat Brett Tavarres. You beat these long-tenured guys and you have fun fight to end it. And give the gloves.
Starting point is 00:37:07 and give the gloves to your coach. I thought that was a cool moment. So happy trails to Araganders, be a mosquito great win, Hatcher Soza, great win. And Pierre Rodriguez snaps the win streak of Sampage. AK told us to believe.
Starting point is 00:37:21 I would also say that was like a forgettable fight. If like that's probably third on the fights that I would be like if ranking of poorness. That wasn't bad, but just not deeply unnecessary to run that rematch. And I learned nothing new or it wasn't that interesting. All right. Time to go to the peeps.
Starting point is 00:37:39 You do have some super chats. Keep throwing them in. And you are, you are just guaranteed here. You're just guaranteed. You know what? We're going to skip the line here because Peter Byers drop it up. 20 spot on us.
Starting point is 00:37:50 For the Goat Post Fight Show, got to say, I do miss the 2 a.m. Post-Espan Apex show debates of New York Cricket Jed PS best event of the year. Yeah, those are fun. I mean,
Starting point is 00:38:01 Rick was wrong about a lot of things. And I had to correct him at three in the morning because that was apparently my job. Yeah, we were nice and grumpy. Look, it's not even midnight, and we had great fights. Yeah. This is, this is pure M.A. This is what we love.
Starting point is 00:38:19 Yeah. Then you throw Casey in the mix, and he was, he was chiming in on stuff. I mean, those are two-hour post shows. Those led to meetings of like guys. Casey would be like, I think B. Miskita probably beats Kayla Harrison, and Pierre Rodriguez should probably get a title fight. Gillian Robertson, number one ranked pound for pound fighter in the world, men or women.
Starting point is 00:38:43 That's where we're at with Casey right now. Casey's the best. Nick's got a couple. We'll start here. Unpopular opinion, maybe, but the small crowd apex feels like my ideal fight watch experience. Small crowd, hear the contact. I don't know, maybe it's just me. I think it would be good to go to now.
Starting point is 00:39:03 Right? like I've done I mean I've been to a ton of MMA I think and I tell this all the time on shows I think everybody should go to a big UFC event if it comes near them just for the experience I think it's a good one to have I would not I would basically rarely go to UFC's in Atlanta if I wasn't working them right like maybe if the fights are super good
Starting point is 00:39:25 but that's not my vibe at this stage of my life like smoker shows regional promotions I encourage everybody who find regional MMA near you because those are super fun. They're very accessible. They're usually either in like a very small arena or like a big bar. And those are great.
Starting point is 00:39:45 I think the apex, when they're doing another expansion on it, they're trying to get to like a thousand-ish sheets or whatever. With memory serves, it could be wrong, but something like that. I think that ultimate goal is really good. Mike, I don't know if you ever went to an event there,
Starting point is 00:40:02 but whatever they call it, the Hard Rock Arena in Vegas, like the Hard Rock Casino has like an event space. I can't remember what they call it. Like they call it the Pearl at the Palm or whatever. Hard Rock Casino has one in Vegas. I saw a WEC there. And that was like the exact perfect venue size.
Starting point is 00:40:22 This was probably a couple of thousand people. There were balconies. So if you're up on the balcony, you're just looking into the cage. Not like a huge amount of people. It was super fun. and I think the apex going to it can be that. The problem is that just never conveys across TV.
Starting point is 00:40:41 And that will always be the issue when we're watching APEC shows from home. Yeah, because they... The joint at the hard rock. That's right, Lazy Co thank you. The ticket prices are outrageous to go to those cards. Like they should just be like 20 bucks to get in like type of deal. I mean, you're saving so much money on production costs and all that stuff anyways. they'll spend money on the food and the drinks and all that stuff.
Starting point is 00:41:06 So yeah, make your money there, man. But yeah, it's definitely, there's definitely a different vibe. The boxing events in there suck. Like, it just, it just feels so empty and soulless. But at least the crowd did seem loud tonight. They seemed very into stuff and that made a difference. I, it absolutely, the expansion already has made a difference. It still is a little empty.
Starting point is 00:41:31 It still feels a little less because it's 300, 400, 400 people, whatever it is. Just a little bit more. And we'll be cooking with something that's, I still won't be as good as being an arena full of like thousands of people, but will be good. Like it will be solid. Yeah. Like the event they did with Marab Yon won. Like that was at like a small casino arena that fit like, I don't know, 1,500 people.
Starting point is 00:41:57 Like that was perfect. Just extra energy. We like that. Nick also has Featherway made it clear how dog water heavyweight and light heavyweight are tonight. You bite your tongue. Heavyweight is so back after tonight. I mean, they're both very bad divisions, yes. But tonight's not the night to notice that they're bad.
Starting point is 00:42:15 Tonight, they gave us great efforts. They did. They did. And then we'll see Gable at the White House and it'll be all good. I love that you were going to speak this into existence. It's got to happen. You have adopted the Connor McGregor's secret of, I will just keep saying it.
Starting point is 00:42:31 And in the same way that I will continue to correctly declare the McKinsey Derno B. January Lee, you are doing this with cable at the White House, and I respect it. I need it. Spencer, Kevin Jahos, the newest Michoud since Ned Kashu. That's true, but he's not a Mushu. He's a cashew, so not the same. Cashew, yes. Mazel Tov rank these featherweights on most likely to win gold.
Starting point is 00:42:55 Jajos, Costa, John Silva, featherweights on fire. Vosges, John Silva Costa. Yeah. Yeah. Could be Jean Silva over Vigeos just because I think he's going to get the title shot first, and thus he might get it first. But I think if they rematch,
Starting point is 00:43:13 I'll have a level of confidence in Vosos to get it done. I mean, maybe I'm just under-aiding Malki, though, because, like, he slaughtered Dan Ike, and his very, very, seems to just have it all rolling right now. But, um, I mean, that's what I mean when I say featherweight is in like this really great spot of transition. You got a lot of new blood coming into this way class and it's going to be fun for the next couple of years.
Starting point is 00:43:40 Yeah. It's just got it's going to be very tough to like get a big boost up that those rankings unless you're a guy like Kevin right now who's just on fire and the UFC promoted him perfectly and put him on everybody's radar and John Silver's just such a maniac like those two dudes will get up there quick. I feel like Costa is going to be one of those guys, as talented as he is, and as good as he's looked, he's going to have to just kind of pick off everybody in the division before he gets a shot. And he could very well do that.
Starting point is 00:44:09 But I think if he gets a title shot, it probably won't be for a little while. Yeah, I mean, that's the thing. You kind of just have to consider that part of it too, because like Kevin just headlined a card. Melke has not a headlined a card, right? He's about to. Oh, because he's getting on Allen now. That's right. I forgot that.
Starting point is 00:44:33 Yeah, I mean, they're all right in the mix then. Yeah, featherweights. I mean, just big fights. Like, this division's moving. Thank you, Jed, for joining main card Bennett. I did. I popped on when we were in the early section of the card. I tend to throw up Long Island-Luix watch along,
Starting point is 00:44:50 at least to just check in for a bit. And Gaff wasn't there. So I hopped in and we watched the Coast of Tavar. or the not coast of Tavares, got Melky on the mind, the Tavares' and chapped it up with the boys, had fun. There's another one. Hikek is here. So Hikek and Ned Cash, you are going to battle it out for supremacy.
Starting point is 00:45:12 Will we see more of Larry Legkick in the future? Yeah. I called him the UK Jason House because it was just like Jason House. There's a lot overlapping there. It's very, very funny. It's very, very funny. And yeah, that was, he should have like he going to fight in six months because his jaws got snapped up. But yeah, for sure.
Starting point is 00:45:35 Yeah, he'll be back. They'll give him another shot. If you lose like that, you can lose as many times as you want as far as I'm concerned. Spencer, another one. Boys felt like we needed that one. Really appreciate you both. Some of my favorite content I watched, so many great performances tonight. Best performance besides Vajos, you, you commented on it.
Starting point is 00:45:52 And I think we're on the same page here. I mean, I think it just is Bia. if you want too great on a curve, right, and dock her points for being a monstrous favorite. But, like, even her being a monstrous favorite or a monster of Rendon, like, I don't think people expected her to come and put hands on Rendon.
Starting point is 00:46:09 Like, they just thought she'd tackle and tap her, and, like, ultimately she did after dropping her on the mitts and just beating the brakes off the woman. So, like, in a vacuum is Bia. In context, I mean, there are a lot of really good ones I might favor
Starting point is 00:46:27 and Mick Debex was very impressive but I guess in if you're weight waiting level of opposition, etc. and expectations, I'll go Elijah Smith because that fight was fairly closely lined Elijah was like a minus 200 something
Starting point is 00:46:45 betting favorite and that he had real moments of struggle with uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, Suyung Yu, sorry. And then he just, just ended him. So I guess I'd give that second best.
Starting point is 00:47:02 But, you know, like Sosa killed the dude. Kutalava showed a good fight IQ. A lot of really good performances, man. Yeah, Stephen Aspen and a loss was still like the star, one of the stars of the event. Mm-hmm. It's a good time. Jed, tell me you had the Sosa Sousa Parlay today.
Starting point is 00:47:20 I said this on Maincar Minute because I was, I'd know because I was stupid. it. I said I was going to do it and then I forgot to do it. And I didn't remember it until Sozo was fighting. And also I kind of thought Sozo was fighting later, but he was the second fight of the evening. So I just botched it and didn't put the bed in, which is great. Like the gimmick probably would have cashed, but I'm dumb. Let's go to some other questions. I saw one from Joseph earlier that I wanted to pull up. Where is it? We stored something earlier, but I don't remember what I did it.
Starting point is 00:47:56 that was the started one the one i just pulled up oh yeah yeah that's right that was the one i started so he asked he asked um bisbing was apparently on the broadcast after the fight that he was he gave vizzeo as a bunch of crap for not calling anybody out um which normally i would also be that however nine times out of ten i agree not this time yeah i i i i i i I asked him about this because the clip that was all over the socials was, you know, you called out Cub Swanson and he got lit up for it. And then they gave him Josh Emmett. And then I asked him at the end of the interview, one of the things you guys didn't see,
Starting point is 00:48:40 I was like, are you, do you have a call out in mind? And his answer was, uh, or the question was, will you have a call out after you win? And he said, no, because if I call somebody out, they're just going to give me something higher than I want anyways, because I'm not in any way. rush. I was like, so just call up the champion and then you can't go any higher than that. He goes, he goes, well, no, my luck, I'll call out Volcanowski and then they'll make me fight a lightweight. They'll make me go to lightweight and fight somebody up there. And I was like, that is a terrific answer. So that's fine. Like, again, he's in such a position right now that like,
Starting point is 00:49:14 even if he calls people out, like, he's going to have a hard time getting people to say yes right now. He kind of has to wait and see how this all plays out. And normally I'd be like, yeah, you got to make a call out. But, you know, if he goes to the postway presser and calls out your year like that's that's perfect problem is most of the other dudes ahead of him were booked and it doesn't really make a difference i'm with you nine times out of 10 you should have a name you should try and take some ownership of your career you know because this is the very one of the very few opportunities you have if it was going to call someone call out yeah year because she's just not booked and that fight makes sense in that record um but like i said i'm not even sure that that would really work that
Starting point is 00:49:53 well. So I was fine with him using that to basically just broadly put himself over and reconnect himself and like ground himself with Argentina. Because like that's that's a big thing for him too, right? Like you got to find out the things that make you special both as a fighter and promotionally. And, you know, he doesn't speak English. So his market is like limited, right?
Starting point is 00:50:16 As how the UFC works. Who fuck else is fighting out of Argentina, right? Like he can get. It is not a small nation. That is a nation that is avidly supported of its athletes. So, yeah, fly the flag, both physically and metaphorically. So I was fine with it. Because this is also just never going to be a strength of his game.
Starting point is 00:50:39 That's not what he does, and that's okay. Neo Valley Tudor, watch the Lakers game instead. Good choice. I don't know how the Lakers game was, so I can't definitively say no, but that's a regular season game. that was somewhat meaningless, I assume, and this was quite a good fight night. It was really good.
Starting point is 00:50:59 It was the best card of the year. It was the best card of the air so far. Yes, Elsie agrees. Card of the air so far, but bar is low, but yes, definitely. Yep, I think it's pretty clear cut, man. Well, the biggest issue with the card and some, some might call it a positive,
Starting point is 00:51:20 there was like a 10-minute stretch where we didn't have audio, because Paramount is terrific. So I do love that Paramount has every week had some snafu go with its broadcasts. We're feeling so good about it after 325. We really were because 325 was a bad card, but at least like all the issues people had with 324, like they fixed and like made an effort to do better.
Starting point is 00:51:47 And it's since then, it's just all falling apart. It was like I was like the thing, I think Damon put someone was like, did audio fall out? And I was like, yeah, because my audio fell out. And I was like, maybe it's mine. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:52:05 I was just waiting. But then, like I said, I was watching main car minutes live stream. And everybody there was like audio, like, yep, nobody has audio. And it didn't get solved for a while, which is like, it wasn't like a 20 second thing. It was like a full round and a half. Yeah, I saw that. I was watching BKFC at the time because Gizum Samani. just annihilated a fool after getting dropped pretty quick in that fight,
Starting point is 00:52:31 which is pretty wild fight if you guys want to go back and check that one out. But yeah, it's, I missed all that, but it didn't seem like a lot of people are very upset about it either. And we'll kind of leave it at that. It's just, boy, that's tough.
Starting point is 00:52:44 We had blackouts during a freaking BMF title fight. Like, we're just having all sorts of trouble. Thank God that fight sucked. Because, like, people would have been way more upset if that's, had been a good fight that had a block out in the middle of it. I thought Aspen had a case to win that fight.
Starting point is 00:53:03 Did anyone else think so? Probably not. No. If you really want to be generous with it, he did drop him a couple of times. He won the first round. He definitely won the first round. He won the first round.
Starting point is 00:53:16 He definitely lost the second round. Yeah, like you'd have to give him the third. And you can, but that's tough. That's being very generous, I think. Yeah. He was getting hit a lot in that round. Yeah. That's the thing is he got hit a lot. He walked right into a lot of shots.
Starting point is 00:53:37 Yeah. He was, it was like he was like, all right, now I'm going to punch, but instead he got punched like four times. And it's like, okay,
Starting point is 00:53:44 maybe I should rethink this strategy. And then, yeah, man, I don't know. It was fun, though. Man,
Starting point is 00:53:51 we had some fun. We did. Joseph, can we get Mike and Jett's thoughts in the fact we have an afternoon anime card next week? Yeah, it's the,
Starting point is 00:53:57 London card. So yes, we are early. Prelims at one, main card at four on the East Coast standard time. Perfect. I love early M.MA. I love it. I love it too. It'll be great. I'll get my lifted in the morning, get lunch going and
Starting point is 00:54:13 lock in. Let's go. Love that. Let's go. Very, very excited. How is that card? Oh, bad. Got it. It's not great. I love the main event. I love the main event a lot. I think it's ludicrous that they put Luke Riley in the commain, but okay
Starting point is 00:54:32 MVP San Patterson is an MVP fight, so it'll range from weird to bad. There's no real in between there. Baranuski-Austin Lane's probably going to be some dumb fun. Eos is just going to clobber them. Probably. Delizzee, CLD is fun. That's a good fight. It's the second best fight on this card.
Starting point is 00:54:56 Nathan Woodlose and Kita is good. Good. Mason Jones, Louis Southern. And that's going to be heavy weighty. Southern and Parachic. Oh. Concertit.
Starting point is 00:55:06 Nothing I'm in love with on this one. Yeah, it's going to be. And we'll see how the crowd is because usually like the, the folks that make it fun are the ones that can't spend $250, $350, $500 for. Yeah, they've priced out the dope people in England now, which sucks.
Starting point is 00:55:27 Yeah. It just sucks. Yeah. But that main event is as high levels, mixed martial lets to get. It should be a title eliminator. I don't think it is, but it should be.
Starting point is 00:55:39 So I will be very excited for that main event, if nothing else, even though it's also a mob star. So, like, maybe it won't be the most exciting outcome. Oh, no, man. He's been some good ones. He has been.
Starting point is 00:55:53 He also has been in forgettable fights. He contained, we contain multitudes, Mike. Yes. The Lopez fight was. was really good. The Arnold Island fight was really good. The Aljo fight was really good. But yet, Dana still didn't know who either of those guys were. I think the slander on Mopsar is ridiculous, but I won't say that he's pitched nothing but heaters in his career either.
Starting point is 00:56:13 Oh, yeah. Like the Danny Gay fight was nothing to write home about. He just tackled him a bunch. But yeah, because Dana White doesn't know who fights on his roster, he got painted with the boring brush because Dana got that fight confused with Mark Andre Barrio and Chris Curry. Do you know my actual honest to God, like dream thing that I, if I could set up something with an MMA person, like that they just had to say yes because their publicist said yes, it would be doing a blind name that fighter with Dana White. Oh my God. But not even like, here's a fighter name him.
Starting point is 00:56:50 It would be like a usual suspect's lineup of here are 12 dudes, which one of them is Mavsorev and see if he can do it. it. You mentioned the London card. I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm not like overly excited for CLD and Delizze. I am odd, fun fight. I am oddly fascinated by it because this is the first time Roman DeLidez is getting in a fist fight since Anthony Hernandez took his soul.
Starting point is 00:57:20 Yeah, he's going to die. See what he's been murdering people lately. He's going to kill him. I'm, I'm just curious if he, like, what he does in there. Like, I just, after losing a fight like that, like, it's really tough to, like, I, honestly, like, I don't even, I don't even know what I would, like, if they asked me to interview him, like, I don't even know what I'm going to say to the man. Like, how does he, how do you wrap your head around that? I just, I would literally ask him that, like, how do you recover from that sort of a dominant loss? It's pretty important to know about next week, CLD, writing back to back performances of the night.
Starting point is 00:57:59 he has a chance to go three for three, which is always cool when people do that. I think I did actually give him, I think he was second team all violence last year, and middleweight, because he is also on spinning KO back to back, spinning back elbow into a spinning back fist. So now we're going for a spinning back kick KO from CLD on Saturday. Let's do the trifect, the spinning trifecta, and somewhere, somewhere out there, Nick Diaz will pop up out of his bed and go,
Starting point is 00:58:33 we throw in spinach shit now, and the world will be right. And the world will certainly be right. It's also a big week for our fantasy team. I got, especially for me, I need this. Last time I had multiple,
Starting point is 00:58:43 multiple fighters. You are in a lot of trouble right now, frankly, so yes, you do. You have a bad weekend. You're probably cooked. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:51 Like, it was not a good, the Mexico car was not good for me, but I won every other fight. Like, those are my first losses. So if I can get, if I can get two wins here, if Ewo wins, he's getting a bonus. So that'll be huge. I don't know if Mozar will.
Starting point is 00:59:06 I think Mozar if he just, I think Mozar's going to be the Roe Murphy. I don't think, I don't think there's any chance he could get a bonus a matter what he does at this point. So Damon, respectively, has three fighters who lost and is still second. Well, he'll be third in points after tonight because AK is going to jump up with a pretty big swath of points today. I think you got like 350 or something. But what have we learned about
Starting point is 00:59:31 Mike Hacks fantasy teams from last year? Half your dudes won't fight. Half my dudes won't fight. I'm most of you're fighting. I was down and out last year. Kayla, maybe Macy Barber and Gable aren't fighting for you. Is she booked?
Starting point is 00:59:49 Is she booked? I don't know. She's fighting Alexegrasso. She's got a clobber. Well, she might win that. That's right. And yeah. Kayla and Gable Yeah I know those are the only ones not fighting Yeah I had half my team didn't fight
Starting point is 01:00:02 But I was I was dead in the water And then lo and behold Waldo Cortez Acosta comes from the ashes Like a Phoenix rising And wins it for me And then pure I'm just caps it I'm so upset Freaking Shavcott Fatima Klein
Starting point is 01:00:19 And Maraub are not going to fight I'm gonna keep Fatima again I'm gonna be so upset about it though. I'm so curious you're going to keep after this. I have to keep Carl G.D., she's my daughter.
Starting point is 01:00:30 Are you going to keep both of them again? You're just going to keep riding Fatima and in Carly every time? Yeah. I might up it to three keepers so I just keep my women
Starting point is 01:00:42 and make the rest of you fucking live in the goddamn trenches while I have been mosquito Carlitia Gita Carta. I wonder if we should do free agents next season too. I've been trying to thinking about a way to do it that could be done.
Starting point is 01:00:58 Mainly I've been thinking about it as Jose keeps like being like, I forgot I had a fantasy team. Like, yeah, you don't do anything after you drafted. So it's pretty easy to forget you have one and your team hasn't done great. So fair, but there's a way to do it. We'll think about a way to add it. Fatima hits that she has something coming yesterday. I think she does.
Starting point is 01:01:21 However, it's unclear if that thing's going to come. in this season. I don't think it, yeah, it might be, it might be happening in, in season two of 26, but we'll see. Let's see. I'll find one more. Actually, I'll do two more. Will Ms. Robertson fight for the title in 2026? No. No, I don't think so. I don't think so either. Dern and. I wouldn't bet my life on it. It's, it is possible, but I say no. Dern and Zhang aren't on the book yet, which means they're not fighting until the summer. And That'll probably be the only time either of those women fight this year. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:58 So unless one of them gets injured or something and Gillian steps in as the functional backup, which I think she's in that role right now, like, because she's just on the best run. But other than that, I don't think she's fighting for the ball this year. Why is the Valentina fighting yet? Genuinely, a really good question. I thought when we talked about it before the announcements, like I thought that she would be fighting at, Newark. So I'm I'm unclear.
Starting point is 01:02:31 Yeah, she'll be a summer one too. Because that's the thing. My guess is she's going to fight IFW now. IFW will be Val. I'll be both, you know, Val, it'll be Marabion 3 and maybe Connor McGregor fights. You know, I don't know how much you think. Connor versus Kamar Usman, you know, it's out there. I mean, Kamar has a better chance of getting that.
Starting point is 01:02:56 fight than he does Islamakachev right now. At least that's, I would prefer that booking. I mean, yes, would certainly prefer that booking. For sure. All right. I don't want to go through the entire roster of like when are people fighting. Honestly, I will say about Valentina. There is, I think there is a world where the UFC is like, hey, hang tight.
Starting point is 01:03:21 We might need you for something else. You know, that's possible. If they can't be booking. Depending on the Kayla timeline. Maybe they just do. Honestly, maybe that is the answer of like why. Why not? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:35 I think maybe they're just like, hey, hang tight. If we get a good update on Kayla, we know when she could definitely fight. Like, then we'll book you and Natty Ice. But if not, like, we may need to give you the hot tag and come up and do something here at 135 for us. I have a comment for us to end on, Mike. I'm going to throw it up. I'm still trying to wrap my head around the fact that, Vos hasn't even been pro for five years yet.
Starting point is 01:04:03 Well, yeah, he's 24. He's like mathematically limited to being a pro for five years at this point. He made, he made his professional debut, Mike, in September of 2021. That is very recently. That is extremely recent. I mean, not quite at the at the volume of one Joshua Van. It's not the Josh van, but like, it's pretty, he's got a bunch of fights. That is, that is, 19th fight.
Starting point is 01:04:37 COVID was over when he made his bringing in a debut. He's 18 and 1 now, right? Yeah. That's a lot of fights. And again, the one is the Jean Silva fight that was he lost, but was really competitive. Dude, super talented. I can't wait to see what the next 10 years are like for him. He's very fun.
Starting point is 01:05:00 All right. Boom. They're playing us off. A lot of people are asking for matchmaking suggestions, and don't you worry. There's a show for that? There just happens to be a show. Really? That's a really good idea to have a show for that.
Starting point is 01:05:16 Yeah, the only one, I think. I mean, maybe there's others out there, but, you know, do we have an emoid for that show? We need one. We do. We have no pics. We need, oh, we do. We have an auto emote.
Starting point is 01:05:27 Do we have a Otno Point emote? No, but that's a good idea. I'll write that on the list. Write it on the list. We got lots of emotes coming your way, lots of fun coming your way. Next week, UFC London,
Starting point is 01:05:41 and then it's Seattle and R.F. Going down the same week, so there's a lot of them there. That's a big week. That's a big week. And then back at the World's Most Famous Apex, I got to tell you, that that Boycano Duncan card looks, I don't think we're going to have
Starting point is 01:05:57 jump it on the April 4th post-vite show with the same vigor and energy. That's a tough thing. I agree with your assessment on that one. But we'll be heading to Miami show thereafter, and that should be a lot of fun. Thank you, everybody.
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