MMA Fighting - UFC Vegas 121 Post-Fight Show | Reaction To Scary Ending In Raul Rosas Jr. vs. Raoni Barcelos Main Event

Episode Date: September 27, 2026

Raul Rosas Jr. picked up the win in his first UFC main event despite being down 3-1 on all of the judges' scorecards heading into the final round against Raoni Barcelos. Then, Rosas lands a takedown i...n the fifth round, and all of a sudden, Barcelos was out cold and not moving to put a big of a frightening cap on one of the best UFC fights of the year. Following Saturday's UFC Vegas 121 card, MMA Fighting's Mike Heck and Jed Meshew react to the UFC's return to the Meta APEX, Rosas getting the win, the scary ending to the fight, and updates on Barcelos' condition following the main event. Additionally, they'll discuss the lackluster co-main event grudge match between Ailin Perez and Norma Dumont, the scoring of the fight for Perez, Luis Hernandez's breakout performance, other standout moments, the crowning of two new TUF champions — including one by disqualification — and more. Download the SB Nation app here ⤵️ 📱 iOS: ⁠⁠⁠https://apps.apple.com/us/app/sb-nation/id6789240983⁠⁠⁠ 📱 Android: ⁠⁠⁠https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.sbnation.app⁠⁠⁠ Follow Mike Heck: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@m_heckjr⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow Jed Meshew: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@JedKMeshew⁠ Subscribe:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ http://goo.gl/dYpsgH⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Check out our full video catalog: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://goo.gl/u8VvLi⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Visit our playlists:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ http://goo.gl/eFhsvM⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Like MMAF on Facebook: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://goo.gl/uhdg7Z⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow on Twitter: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://goo.gl/nOATUI⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Read More: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://www.mmafighting.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:03:07 Hello, everybody. Welcome to the post show. Those are the victory horns. And, uh, I don't know. I feel victory horns feel a little different right now. I can't, I can't lie to you. They do sound for Raul Roses Jr. But what a scary ending to UFC Vegas 121.
Starting point is 00:03:32 Hyoni Barselaus and Raul Roses Jr. are having themselves an absolute heater out there. they are just beating the brakes off of one another. Hione Barcellos pulling away was up three rounds to one on all three of the judges scorecards. One judge scored it round four correctly, which was a 10-8 round. So it was 39, 37, 39, 37, 39-36. Maral Roses Jr. goes a little crazy, knows he needs a finish. And he goes for a takedown.
Starting point is 00:04:07 It's a pretty basic takedown, and Hione Barcelos is just out. He can't move. Eyes are closed. No one knows what happened. And Rale Roes Jr., to his credit, did not inflict any more punishment. And the fight was stopped. Raul Roses celebrates his win. And Hione Barsallos is stretchered out of the meta-Apex.
Starting point is 00:04:30 No update yet. But once we hear it, we'll let you know about it. But welcome to the post-fight show. I am Mike Hack and joining me to react to a super weird night at the apex is Mr. No Gray Gray himself Jed Mishu Jed. How you doing? Normally we're a little bit more jolly, but honestly, like it's, uh, we're talking a little bit before we kick things off.
Starting point is 00:04:53 Pretty scary way to end this event, was it not? Yeah, man. I, you said it, but like when the horns came on, I was like, man, those are a little happier than I probably feel right now. Um, this is the most concerned. I've been since Bryce Mitchell and Josh Emmett, uh, people who watched our show then, um, I think we're live streaming that one. Uh, I was like genuinely concerned about Bryce, um, Bryce Mitchell's health.
Starting point is 00:05:20 He ultimately ended up being okay. We like that. But, uh, we are all hoping for the best here. I don't, I mean, I think we probably will end up doing some speculation, not anything too rampant, but sort of natural for us to try and. figure out what happened. Neither of us are medical professionals. I hope for the best.
Starting point is 00:05:43 I have real concern that we just witnessed the first catastrophic incident in UFC history. Yeah, it's, it was just tough. Seeing him, like,
Starting point is 00:05:55 just down like that, I was like, oh, maybe he just gassed out. It just, maybe that's the only person who thought that. Several people have seen thought it.
Starting point is 00:06:03 That was my initial thought. But then, like, when they came back from break and they weren't even showing Barcelos I was like oh that's not good because that's usually a very bad sign they were just showing Roses Jr. in the corner
Starting point is 00:06:17 it was that was the thing it's not just that they weren't showing him but you're right that is always a key uh Rall Roses Jr. went from being like a happy winner to like very clearly shaken in the corner and you know Felder and who crews are
Starting point is 00:06:33 on the call and they're just like yeah this is really bad like they're not they're like they're not they shouldn't they should not sugarcoat this but like when we come back from break and suddenly raw rosas junior is just like squatting and looking at what's happening
Starting point is 00:06:48 the commentary team is like this is I think one of them is like this is terrifying like it is a good call to not show that like they did not it is a very good choice not to they did not need to show that we got to see we saw him stretchered out at the very end of it but yeah man uh the only things that i think happen i'm i really hope i'm wrong like i very much hope that i missed like a clash of heads on that takedown that he just was knocked really badly
Starting point is 00:07:18 unconscious and that still is awful but that's sort of part and partial to this sport but the things that jump out to me as the most probable are extremely bad and uh i am just really hoping for how many Barcellus because that would be awful man like I've that would be really really terrible for him yeah man he fought so good too like it's such a great fight and a great fight um spectacular man I mean what a fight I mean incredible fight spectacular stuff from both ends barcelos that fourth round was unbelievable I had so many questions about Raul Roos Jr. heading into this fight I was just like, man, even if he wins, like, it could be super boring because he has not been the most thrilling guy to watch in the last several fights. But man, he came out of fire in tonight and Barcelos was more than happy to oblige.
Starting point is 00:08:14 And those two just beat the shit out of each other for 20 minutes. More so Barcellos kind of putting it on Roll Roosier Jr. Who just had no quitting him, man. There were a couple times where I was like, yep, he's probably just going to say I'm done and tap here. but no, dude kept fighting. He showed a lot, man. Like, I wasn't, I didn't look at him as like, oh, yeah, this dude's definitely fighting for the belt someday.
Starting point is 00:08:36 But I was just like, you know what? Dude gets it. He understands the assignment now. He knows he's got to be a little bit more fun. Striking got much better. Got gusto. And you know what? Despite that fourth round, he came out in round five, ready to go.
Starting point is 00:08:50 And what, I mean, spectacular stuff, man. It was just an incredible fight. Your reaction, I know we're still waiting on. on news and everything, but what did you learn from young El Nina Problema, I believe is his nickname? Would you learn about 21-year-old Rao Roos Jr. tonight? He does have that dog at him, right? And because I was doing a lot of the blog on this, and I thought at the end of the first round, I was like, he's slowing down a little bit, and then that second round, Barsallis wins.
Starting point is 00:09:20 And on the judge's scorecards, Barcellus ends up winning the next three, right? He's up three-one heading into the final. and I really thought as that fight kept going I'd be like, because there would be moments when you would see Rosas would start to fade like when he would recede into himself when his output would just dive off a cliff and you're like, okay, he's fought at such a high pace
Starting point is 00:09:40 and we're over like the crash is here and then he just kept kind of fighting through it and then to start that fifth round he came out like a like he, I think I wrote in the live blog that he was fighting like first round Terrence McKinney at the start of the fifth round like he was I don't know if he knew that he needed to finish or what. But he came out very aggressive.
Starting point is 00:10:01 And right before what happened happened, I was typing, man, Barcelos might be fading here. Like he seems to be wilting under this like assault that Rosas has pulled out of nowhere. And of course, the ending happened. Again, everything we say here is just going to be prefaced and ended with,
Starting point is 00:10:20 I hope, how many Barcellus is okay. But like if you set that aside to just talk, about the Rao Rosas, who did nothing wrong. And I think as people pointed out, Saul, like, I think he got one shot in before he realized, oh, that dude's not there. And so he just stepped off, like, great for him to not make what is probably a bad situation worse. And it's not his fault what happened, right? Like, this was a fist fight. He did. His job is a very dangerous sport. And you have to be impressed by, I thought a striking looked better in general. It's still not,
Starting point is 00:10:51 like good, but it is improved. And mostly like he just, he found the, the gear he needed to, to pull a win out of, out of a loss here. And, you know, if it ends up how he being okay, then we can all be like, who,
Starting point is 00:11:07 okay, great and feel just really good about the tremendous comeback that Rao Roses Jr. just authored. There are reports that Barcellus is conscious now, but again, like, while I like, somewhat.
Starting point is 00:11:22 Who are you seeing that report from? Because I'm also talking to you. Anybody reputable making that? You don't have to throw a name out. Leo. Okay. But Leo's also gotten some things wrong over the years too. So, I mean, I know he's the tweet from 19 minutes ago,
Starting point is 00:11:40 Hione conscious, thank God madness, I've never seen anything like it. But that's the only thing I'm seeing. I see something from AG fight that I'm not 100%. on everything that I'm seeing is not saying that he's okay they're saying that he is being taken for tests and stuff I think the post show which you may hear my background if you do I'm sorry
Starting point is 00:12:02 but I have it up for very obvious reasons at the start of the UFC post show they announced hey we're not going to speculate and then at some point during the show they announced that both he and Rosas were going to the hospital and they were getting scans on head and neck so we'll see how it is
Starting point is 00:12:20 Yeah. So as of now, there are some reports, but Brons that are saying it as well. Let me just check real quick. I will certainly trust Aaron Moore here. Yeah. Oh, this is true. Marcellus was transferred to hospital. He's conscious. That's a translation from that's from AG fight. And that's, that's Evie, who I will absolutely trust.
Starting point is 00:12:46 No disrespect to Leo. Leo has gotten some stuff wrong. Evie has a really good relationship with the team, plus she's literally there. So I will take her word here. So hopefully good news. And I'm waiting hopefully for the broadcast to come in. It is obviously better news that he's conscious than that he's not. So that's great.
Starting point is 00:13:08 That does not absolve my biggest issues and concerns that I have here. But that is like, you know, one step of positivity is good enough, you know, for right now. what does rosa gain from this because it's such a weird ending and he was losing and like yeah i mean who knows who knows what would have happened if the fight didn't end like that maybe rosa would have got some ground and pound maybe would have got a submission who knows but the way that the fight ended i mean you give rosa's credit and and you tip the cap for him not quitting and not giving up and continuing to fight but does he get a whole lot from this like he wants a top seven guy is he going to get it or like what what does he gain from this it's it's just such a weird sort of
Starting point is 00:13:53 unprecedented situation something like this it it i mean that's right because i think i mean obviously the conversation will just be different if what happened didn't happen but like let's say how he just got knocked out and he was up and moving right now we'd have a lot more excitement in her voice and we're like yeah i you give robert's junior top seven opponent you know beating how many how he's a top 10 top 12 guy but to do it in that way that was a super exciting fight like that's going to win fight of the night uh is a great comeback again he was down 3-1 on the judge's score cards like if you can separate the the bad from the other parts of it you just have to look at them be like give that man an opportunity right like they've been pushing him
Starting point is 00:14:38 anyway they want to i don't know what the opportunity is right like i don't not sure who at bannon way to have to think about it that's what on to the next one is for Mike. But I think he still gets that because it's not, none of this is his fault. It's just, it's not a thing we're excited to talk about tonight because of the giant, terrible elephant sitting in the corner of the room. But as things unfold and again, hopefully honey's okay, then people can be like, yeah, man, that was the best performance. He's the best performances of his career, certainly of Rob Rousse's career. And, you know, you should reward that with an opportunity. And so I think he will get that.
Starting point is 00:15:17 We shall see what happens. And yeah, man, we are, we are waiting word. So, uh, we're all overrish junior gets the win. Uh, oh, they're back here. What can you say? Are we just talking about rollererous junior here on the broadcasts? It doesn't seem like that's a medical update. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:39 Oh, I see someone like kind of running across the camera. So maybe someone's going to tell Brendan about this, but, um, You want to go to the co-main event, Jed? People will be mad mad. Sure, that's a co-main event. Yes. Eileen Perez gets the unanimous decision win over Norma Dumont in a fight that happened, Jed. That was certainly a fight that happened, added to the long list of grudge matches that did not deliver in any way.
Starting point is 00:16:12 This is probably the – this is definitely the worst fight on the entire card. And Eileen Perez gets the win. I scored it for Norma. But at the same token, Norma didn't like, she didn't clinch it by any stretch. Like she was winning the third round. She was more than happy to just talk a bunch of shit the second half of the third round while inflicting, I mean, zero damage in the end of that third round. It was very, very close. It was up in the air.
Starting point is 00:16:46 people are saying this is the biggest robbery of the year, which is absolutely not true. You have to care about a robbery for it to be the biggest one of the year. Yeah. And Dean Thomas even said it too, he's like, even when she was landing stuff, like she wasn't turning it over. Like there's nothing happening. It was just like a subparb fight between two people who hated each other. And it was just kind of a matter of like who, what did you favor more in the third round?
Starting point is 00:17:11 Like, I saw some people argue on Twitter. It's like, well, she landed double the significant strikes. like total in the fight. This ain't pride rules. It scored round by round, bro. And Norma did not blow the doors off her in round three in a fight that was clearly one-one. So I don't think this is a robbery.
Starting point is 00:17:26 I did feel like Norma did slightly more and kind of thought she won, but certainly not surprised Eileen Perez won. And yeah, your thoughts, where do we go from here? Did Amanda Nunes or Kayla Harrison lose an ounce of sleep? or will they lose an ounce of sleep tonight? They sure did not. Yeah, man, I don't... There's really one thing I want to talk about this fight,
Starting point is 00:17:56 and I'll pitch that question to you at the end of this. But, like, really, it's pretty straightforward of, like, I thought Dumont won. I'm not going to pretend like I care. It felt like, again, robbery just has to be something you care about, you know? Like, if you take 10 cents for me, it's not a technically it's robbery but like do i care you take a hundred grand for me to care uh so this was just a terrible fight uh that sucked and it's always very very silly when a fight sucks
Starting point is 00:18:26 and there's so much beef before and that beef remains after and then the fight still sucks mike i would like your take on this because that fight was so bad that afterwards paul felder gets into the ring and through the translator uh says to aline perise Hey, so why didn't you do anything? Like, you guys talked to all this trash, and then you didn't really fight that hard, and then you tried to fight afterwards. What was that about? I'm paraphrasing, that's basically what he said.
Starting point is 00:18:56 And I have thoughts on that. But what are your thoughts on what old Paul Felder did right there? It's pretty funny. Like, I mean, just watching it for the outside, it's like, oh, Paul chose violence with this post-fight interview. and I kind of liked Eileen's response through the great Fabia. She's like, what are you talking about? I didn't do anything. I dominated her for every second of the fight, like, just completely, like, turning it against him.
Starting point is 00:19:25 But the question Paul asked is like, hey, you guys seem to want to get into a fight and there was all this energy. She's like, why didn't you do any of that during the 15 minutes where the fight actually mattered? It was quite funny. But this is also the reason why Paul is the best at this. he's one of the best in the color of commentary spot in general. But he, to sit there at any event that he is a part of,
Starting point is 00:19:50 and we have to watch either DC or Michael Bisbing do post-fight interviews, while Paul Felder is sitting at the desk not doing post-fight interviews, drives me insane because Paul has the balls to ask questions like that. While the other guys certainly will not do that. And that's why I love Paul in that spot. Was it, yeah, was it like a weird sort of, out-of-the-box question that you typically don't get on these broadcasts? Sure, but it was a fair question.
Starting point is 00:20:17 It was a question that everybody at home was watching too. Like, oh, these two still want to fight. Why didn't they beat the shit out of each other during those 15 minutes? So I get why some people didn't like it. I thought it was quite funny. But that's just me. Your thoughts? I thought it was a little unprofessional.
Starting point is 00:20:34 I'm not going to lie to you. It's similar to my thoughts on the robbery. I'm not willing to get up in a bunch about it I'm not like this is terrible where you need to be but that's not his job like he is an employee of the UFC and a mouthpiece for the promotion
Starting point is 00:20:53 and your job is not to run down fighters and while I that's like a fair question I want to be super clear like that's a fair question I don't think that's a fair question from a promotional person in a promotional instance that's a question to be asked backstage by the journalists in question.
Starting point is 00:21:12 But like, I liken it to if you, you know, you're at your job. And then Paul from human resources just comes up to you and it's like, hey, that was a pretty shitty presentation you gave this week. It's not your boss. Like that's not Dana White or Hunter Campbell being like, that's bad. Explain yourself. That's just a guy who works for the company that employs you and is actually supposed to work in a capacity to help you and benefit you.
Starting point is 00:21:39 Like that is really like the primary job of the promoters is to get these fighters over. And for him to sort of throw you under the bus, like, because like what's your answer going to be that's good there? Again, I think it's a fair question to ask. I don't think he's the person who should ask it. I'm not going to get like, again, on a thing. But that did stand out to me because I think Felder is so very good at this. I think he's by far the best in cage interviewer.
Starting point is 00:22:06 And this is just not something I sort of expect to come from him. I would expect him to have the sort of like professionalism to be like, that fight sucked. As he said in the booth, I think that's like semi fair, like fair, right? But to get up there and be like, hey,
Starting point is 00:22:20 at least to phrase it in a better way, because it was a very leading way to phrase it too. It wasn't like, hey, what happened out there? Like, what's good? Like, could you not? It was just like,
Starting point is 00:22:29 you guys said you were going to do something and you didn't explain yourselves, please? Like you were going to the principal's office. And he's not the principal. I didn't love it. But it's the only thing I, like, had any thoughts about on that fight because that fight was ass. Yeah, she, because we were talking about it on the preview show yesterday,
Starting point is 00:22:48 I was like, oh, yeah, Eileen has a better shot of getting a title shot here than, and Norma, and let me be super clear. She certainly still does. But, yeah, I don't think, I think Jocelyn Edwards just had a great night, too. I think she had a pretty, I think she had a pretty good night. Yeah, man. kind of the no brainer now. Well, Valentina, but that's a separate thing.
Starting point is 00:23:13 Yeah, I don't, because that's the other thing too where like they had done, we talked about in the preview show, Mike, like they had done such a good job of promoting this fight of going from early prelims to co-mean event after the fallout happened, of getting people interested. Like, Norma Dumont got people interested by like saying awful things about her and throwing things at her. And they're like,
Starting point is 00:23:36 people were kind of like, okay, I don't, there was like a general sense of women's ban and weight hadn't been all that fun lately, but maybe this could be something. And then to put on that fight is really bad because, yeah, if Eileen had done more to get and got the win, that had been an exciting fight, people would be more interested in what we're doing, but they killed it all. Yeah, they signed off on the post show. Brandon Fitzgerald did not look very happy, but no update. No update from anybody.
Starting point is 00:24:11 I genuinely do not believe we're going to get an update until either the wee hours of this morning or tomorrow morning. I had no real expectation we'd get one on the broadcast, just hoping. And this is, again, very pessimistic and fully speculative. We want to be unbelievably clear about that. But you usually get quick updates when things are okay, right? It's like, hey, checked in the back, got a concussion, okay. I did not have an expectation that this would have a quick resolution. I am just hoping it has a good one.
Starting point is 00:24:45 Yes. So if we hear anything, I've reached out to the UFC. I've reached out to multiple members of the UFC staff. Just let me know if there is any update at all. And once we get that, we will let you know, let you know what that update is. So, but the good news is if you are, Hione Barcellos, you're getting $100,000.
Starting point is 00:25:06 Because clearly, without question, that was the fight of the night, the main event. Other bonuses go to in the least shocking, other least shocking result. Luis Hernandez, the star of the event in a lot of people's eyes. Even when he called for it, they still gave two people asked for bonus money, and they gave two of them bonuses anyway.
Starting point is 00:25:28 Yeah. And Yasvin Hadeghie, who just beat the holy hell out of poor Vanessa Demopoulos. So they canceled the presser, really? Wow. Oh, I mean, that makes sense to me because I don't know. I don't know if Dana was going to was, Dana wasn't there because he was at Zufu, right? No, she's at Zufa having the worst press conference of his career. Howony and Roses both went to the hospital.
Starting point is 00:25:52 Oh, Rosas do. They said on the broadcast, he went also to get checked out the hospital. So they're going to do a presser for Eileen Perez After Paul Felder just called her shit On live TV basically How about a Lisa Edna's presser? What the hell, man? So honestly, I'll take back everything I said against Feltner Because apparently the media doesn't get to talk to Eileen Perez
Starting point is 00:26:14 So it's good that someone asked to that question, I suppose. See? See, how they're doing the Lord's work? How about that? Yeah, like they're because they already spoke to Luis Hernandez Hernandez. So the presser would just be Perez a solo Perez presser and Sharma or whoever else is there to be the I mean you would prefer that right
Starting point is 00:26:33 but like they don't have the answer like whoever it is if Josh or whoever it shows up back there to answer questions they're like I don't have an update on how we don't know and then like okay we're going to ask six more ways and you should like I still don't know rest of the results
Starting point is 00:26:50 well we should talk about this and give it some credence well shout out to Tina Black the ultimate fighter strawweight champion she just ran Melissa Amaya the F over she um she had no chance in this fight absolutely no chances fight uh Brady highstand rear naked choke against Rini Nakamura uh didn't see that one coming that was sick good stuff for Brady he stand uh had awful vienna got a win Christian Edwards has a UFC win totally I have another update, Mike. This is from Arrow, Arrow, Hawani of Uncrowned M.A.
Starting point is 00:27:29 Or whatever, uncrowned combat at Yahoo Sports, Air Hawanee. How many Barcellus is conscious, I'm told. He is able to speak and move his fingers and toes. Do not love that. I mean, good that he can move them, but that's not like he can move his legs. He can wiggle his fingers and toes. I guess that probably suggests that if there is paralysis, which was my big fear from this,
Starting point is 00:27:54 that it is perhaps temporary, but that is scary as shit, man. Scary as shit. Yeah. I mean, so pretty much exactly what we got from, from Evie. So that's good.
Starting point is 00:28:08 He can move his fingers and toes, too. That's so important update. Yeah. Still, I mean, we still know, like the actual problem. Yeah. I think we'll get that in the morning.
Starting point is 00:28:18 That's my guess. Yeah. So that's good. He is, he is, and now he's out of the woods, at least in some way. And yeah, and it's just one of those things we're going to be thinking about for a little bit. And perhaps we can get another update as we continue on here.
Starting point is 00:28:38 I would like to make an announcement very quickly. Sure. I want to, to the chat, you know that I'm pretty quick with the wrench. If you make a crass or unkind comment in this moment, you are getting a full ban. There's not a timeout. I'm going to fucking boot you. So keep your shit on. Okay.
Starting point is 00:28:58 There you go. Take that. Somebody said something extremely awful and about Barcellos? Correct. Oh, yeah. Fuck them. Goodbye. So.
Starting point is 00:29:10 Goodbye. Have some level of empathy and compassion for people. And if you don't, you can get the fuck out of here and that's fine too. Yeah. Don't be a dick. Christian Edwards. Yep. Mention him.
Starting point is 00:29:20 The man who got big tuned. How about it? Elvis Brenner. That was a sick knockout of Josiah Rale, Montel Jackson. Another one of those bannam weights where, you know, when you actually can do, when you actually do stuff in fights, he's really good. He hits really hard. When he actually does stuff, he does really good things. Aletangeli gets a spitty over John Castaneda. I mentioned Yasmin Hadeghi, 62 seconds.
Starting point is 00:29:47 Just obliterates Vanessa Demopoulos, who I think they should still keep her on the roster man. She's perfect in this role. Just get out there. She's fun. She's got a good following on social and she gets Scott real good. So that's you need a spot for those for those fighters. I'll give
Starting point is 00:30:06 her one more. That's three in a row. And this one, she just got cooked. So that's like bad. I mean, yeah, he's good. But like I'll give her one more. I don't think net like it were in a got to get rid of her moment, you know, but
Starting point is 00:30:21 she is on she's 38 right is that right that make that number up she's up there let me let me double check she's definitely in her mid to late 30 she is 38 she just turned 38 I'll give her one more but yeah that's nope we can't can't keep doing it you got to show me show me something well I mean we we we have the perfect matchup up up onto the next one exclusive on to the next one exclusive on to the next I don't I have no idea where you're going here she is going to be the octagon debut opponent of the newest ultimate fighter Tina Black that's just mean
Starting point is 00:31:04 that's what's going to happen look I'm not saying you're wrong I'm correct I'm right absolutely it may be mean you may be right I may be crazy but yeah this might be a lunatic you're looking for pretty much but that's what's going to happen so that is my pick 14 of black but let's talk about the other one i was going to call you a k uh elimbach ackckcklebeck i believe is how you pronounce
Starting point is 00:31:34 his name took on mohammed ali awesomely in the other ultimate fighter fight the bantamate fight and mohammed ali was getting a lot of attention jed you saw it during the the preview show you shot in other spots and uh aclebeck was looking pretty good he was getting takedowns. It was kind of looking at this, like, how is this dude going to win? Because he is outsized by like seven inches and probably 35 pounds right now.
Starting point is 00:32:01 And it's, and then we saw what happened. Holy shit. One of them, truly maybe the most crazy illegal knee I've ever seen. And they got a raise. They actually decued him. They decued him.
Starting point is 00:32:18 So Acklebeck is the ultimate. fighter champion by disqualification, Jed. It's got to be a first time. I wish we had AK to confirm, but I think that's correct. Also, as the chat is noting, Ariel Helwani of uncrowned combat from Yahoo Sports has tweeted again. We can't confirm this, but it's Ariel. I trust his information is good in this respect. He's out of the CT scan, I'm told, no results, but he's able to speak and able to move
Starting point is 00:32:43 his body. So if somebody, and then we're going to veer pure interoperable. pure speculation for just a moment. Somebody who I showed the clip to who is a medical professional suggested to me that there could have been, it could have been something they, I don't, I'm not a medical professional. I don't know that. The terms or whatever.
Starting point is 00:33:08 But a temporary paralysis because of some like spinal contusions or something. And if that's the case and he's, it's temporary, that's terrific. So the fact that he's, able to move or allegedly seemingly more like in a better way again thoughts up man
Starting point is 00:33:27 really want this to not be a very tragic thing that we watched 100% thoughts on the way the that tough fight ended jed and I'm actually getting it right no no contest a straight up DQ yep he is sorry more reports are coming in but they're all saying
Starting point is 00:33:48 roughly the same thing so it's not big deal great. I didn't know if they were going to do it honestly because they never do. And this is one of those things where like some people were a bit of a way where it's like, that should be legal. And I firmly agree. I'm all the way on board. It should be legal, but it's not. And so if it's not legal, you can't do that. It was a weird situation, like the way it happened. My biggest concern was how long it took them to call the fight off. because like after he got like after they got separated he just laid there like staring with a thousand yard stare i was like that dude can't fight again like he can't we can't get a five minute break and go
Starting point is 00:34:27 back he's done done they finally did and that's good and i i will also like i just want to note this shout out to him he did not like celebrate that when he was he looked honestly he looked concussed to me again not a doctor but like he didn't totally look like he was like all the way aware of what was going on and they handed in the trophy and he just like gave it to some guy in his corner and stood there and was weird and like it did not this wasn't a an aljo didn't do this either so maybe it'll come out afterwards where aljo's like partying in the thing which again i actually defended at the time and still think it's pretty good but like he didn't seem i don't think this was a put on which some people suggested i think he had knead in the head really hard a dude was
Starting point is 00:35:12 super not conscious for like a hot minute or he might have been conscious but he was not there. And it sucks for a tournament to end that way, but don't, but that knee was just so legal. Like, it was, Mike, I don't know if you had a chance to see the Dante Moore incident earlier tonight. It was slightly more legal than that, but it wasn't much more like illegal. You know, have you seen the Dante Moore hit from earlier tonight? It was crazy, dude. It was insanely bad. This was not that bad. But it wasn't super far away from that bad either. Yeah, it was, it was some crazy stuff.
Starting point is 00:35:55 Yeah, and the whole like, oh, he flopped. I didn't see that much of it, but I just saw, I saw some of it. I saw a lot of it. Oh, did you? Okay. I saw a lot of it. I was like, damn, dude, that was pretty flush, bro. It was pretty flush.
Starting point is 00:36:09 Even people I respect was like, yeah, some suspected, some, some sussy stuff going on. I saw the one person that I know you're. talking about. Yeah. I was a bad take. That was a bad take. A little surprise. Like he was still holding his leg.
Starting point is 00:36:21 I was like, yeah, man, how many times have we seen fully like out of it? Fighters try to wrestle the referee. You know, like he was holding the leg because the leg was there and he is in survival mode. He was very concussed.
Starting point is 00:36:39 Yeah. That was pretty wild stuff. All right. We're going to go to the peeps in just a moment. And, uh, I'm just trying to get, I'm trying to get.
Starting point is 00:36:48 I'm trying to get some, I'm trying to confirm some of the reputation. Jintricks, I know, because I know we've got a lot of people coming in, um, like they, they aren't here for the whole thing.
Starting point is 00:36:57 The latest update we have from a couple of different sources at this point is that he has had a CT scan. He, how many barceles is conscious and is able to have some, some movement, the extent to which is a little unclear, but it seems that he is moving again and he has had scans at the local Vegas hospital and is waiting for,
Starting point is 00:37:17 a result, but he's conscious and moving, which are two very good things. Yes, 100%. Let's go. Lopsided, I'm uncomfortable watching Josiah Harel fight. That's a bad knockout, man. I was, I'm not shocked because the Yasmy Ergu was very cool, but I kind of felt like Ellsbruner maybe did deserve the performance of the night bonus there. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:43 the year iiardee one felt a little bit i mean i i also share this like jersai herrell thing but it just felt a little i don't know like a it was a bigger upset it was sort of much faster a face plant like it was a tougher one i think maybe i would have given that one over over ergui yeah what did you think of the what do you think of harrell man
Starting point is 00:38:07 are you concerned about watching him fight this is like this is just real bad knockouts in a row look one one is a thing that happens like anybody can get caught two is not necessary like two is a streak but it's not necessarily like all right we're just done here but it's that is two tough ones you know it's two two really bad looks um so if a third one happens we should pull the plug would be but i i'm at that stage or the first one i won't even think about it it happens in the sport the second one my ears are perked up i am now looking at this with you know i'm i'm i'm herb dean i'm in the hokey pokeying of do i jump in do i jump out
Starting point is 00:38:55 we're still going to let it go but keeping a close eye on it because that's the two bad ones very bad i was wondering what he would look like at lightweight and uh yeah his wrestling's really good his striking is okay but his striking defense especially this level is very scary man very scary uh Ryan prayers for Dante Moore and Hione in prayers indeed prayers indeed hopefully we can uh I mean I think Dante Moore's fine I mean fine is very relative term there he very clearly showed fencing he got super concussed like super duper concussed but that I assume that in a couple of weeks he'll be back to playing football but yeah that was awful
Starting point is 00:39:37 lazy bed time for her harold to call it a career You know what? He's a little young. The UFC if he can. Yeah, I mean, the fact that he's even made it to the UFC after everything this dude's gone through is, is just a huge.
Starting point is 00:39:54 There's not a lot of moral victories in MMA, Jed, but him fighting in the UFC fight is a moral victory. And him getting two fights in the UFC is a moral victory. Like, yeah. I mean, you try giving him one more, but wouldn't hate if he just went on to coaching or something like that. at this point, like dude's at brain surgery. I don't,
Starting point is 00:40:15 the last thing you want to see is him just continuously getting knocked out, uh, after having moya moya. Just pretty, pretty scary stuff. So yeah, we'll see what happens with him. And we'll go.
Starting point is 00:40:31 Uh, do you think Dana will make an update tonight? Probably not. Most likely not Dana. It's not going to come from Dana. Yeah. I don't think it's going to come from Dana. What did you think he was,
Starting point is 00:40:41 boy, did he have a tough he had a tough day today he uh he shows up at the super boxing press conference sits down he's like this is the fight of the night right we're still doing the fight of night performance the night thing with sufa boxing which apparently uh did not sell out wherever they were at um the main event was real bad i honestly couldn't tell you who was fighting this is where everybody was was saying and then dana shows it was like i wonder where you guys are asked me about. And of course, all the questions are about the Tyson Fury Anthony Joshua fight and all the bullshit and all the stuff Max Kellerman was saying and all the stuff that
Starting point is 00:41:21 Mike Oppenger was tweeting out verbatim copy paste from Daddy Turkey. And Dana was just very defensive about stuff. A lot of the same Eddie Hearn is full of shit. No one's more full of shit than Eddie is. And normally, I will say this, because we've talked about this, Jedd, many of post-fight shows coming out of the UK scene, especially with the UFC. Boy, the media rounds are real tough in there. Those pressers are brutal for the most part, especially with the questions that are being asked and all of that. Shout out to a couple of them in there today, because they were pressing Dana, and it was really good. And they weren't even like super duper deep follow-up questions.
Starting point is 00:42:07 They were just following. They're not even pressing, and they're just asking them, like, very reasonable questions. and Dana, Dana doesn't have those asses anymore, so he doesn't, he doesn't have, like, he doesn't know how to respond. Because the whole thing is like, it's also very silly to me. I think that this is very straightforward. When you, you can have a different opinion, right? If people want to do a different way, but it's very clear that whether you agree with
Starting point is 00:42:31 Eddie Hearn morally or not, whether you agree with Eddie Hearn and Anthony Joshua's insistence that Dana not be involved, per all. the information out there, that is in the contract. That whether you like that or not, they agreed to do this fight under these terms where Dana was not involved. And then somebody's like, okay, well, we want Dana involved. Well, then why did we do this contract? Because we're not going to do that.
Starting point is 00:43:02 And I have yet to have a single individual explained to me what Dana is bringing. Dana has been asked that many times and he won't answer it. And that's like, this just wouldn't be a big deal if somebody could answer like a very basic question. What are you contributing? Like that and that's it. And if you can give me like, here's what I'm doing. And at least when this fight was in MSG, it was a bad answer to be like, I booked the venue. Well, literally anybody can book MSG if you have the money in the capital, right?
Starting point is 00:43:30 Like that at least was something, but now it's in Cardiff. Like what are you, what would you say you do here? And somebody asked him that and he was like, you know what I do. And they're like, no, I don't. I'm asking you. Please tell me. He's like, oh, are you just, you're just going to, bro, like, tell us what you do. Like, no.
Starting point is 00:43:48 What I love. Yeah, that is part of it. The question that he asked, which I thought was perfect, because this is, this is the, this was the one question I would have asked him. Hey, if the fight was rested upon whether you are involved or not, would you step away in order for this fight to happen? And Dana's answer was, that's not up to me. And the answer that set Dana off was,
Starting point is 00:44:12 well, who is it? And the follow-up was, well, who is it up to? And he was like, well, who do you think it's up to? And he goes, Turkey. And he's like, oh, you'd give me leading questions. This is your first day in fucking boxing? Would you come across the fucking street? Your fucking cell phone in your hand and do this?
Starting point is 00:44:28 And you have no idea what folks going on in the sport. This is your first time watching boxing? It's just like, that was a very fair question. I loved the question. Like, if I had one question to ask data, that was the exact question. I would have asked him. If the fight was literally hanging in the balance based on your participation in it, whether you're part of it or not, would you step away in order for this
Starting point is 00:44:49 fight to happen? There's a great question. That's the only question I would have asked him. And his answer was, that's not up to me. And he goes, well, then who was it up to? I'm involved in the fight. Okay, well, what do you do here? I'm a people person. I have people's skills. It's like, okay, but like, tell us what you do. And that's the thing. And I've been getting in this fight all week and I'm really tired of it. But like I just nobody's told me anything that makes sense to me. If the answer is just, I'm Turkey like Turkey and I are business partners and friends.
Starting point is 00:45:22 And I want this for my ego. And Turkey's like, yeah, whatever. I get what I want because I'm Turkey, right? Like when does Turkey knock out in a thing he's ever wanted his whole life? If that's just the answer, okay. And like, I'm not disputing that Turkey Al-a-Shee. has the right to pull his money from this promotion if they don't if if he wants something and they are not willing to do that yes he is willing to in the exact same way that anthony
Starting point is 00:45:51 Joshua and Eddie Hearn are are totally within their rights to be like yeah no I'd like to enforce the contract we all agreed to and if you're going to change the terms I'm out like that's every like that those are acceptable things and then to side with the again like why are you siding with Turkey. Like, tell me why what Dana is doing. If you, if somebody can get on there and be like, what he's going to do is he's going to promote this fight by doing X, Y, and Z.
Starting point is 00:46:17 Be like, okay, then he's adding value. Sure, that makes sense. But if it's just Turkey has a business relationship with Zufa boxing and he wants to put his name on it to add cachet to Zufa boxing, no, why would Eddie, why would Eddie Hearn and AJ and Matrum want to do that?
Starting point is 00:46:33 Tyson Fury doesn't care because Tyson Fury is purely interested in the bottom line and also kind of just wants to piss off Anthony Joshua. But like why this is all fine. These are people who have different wants and it's not working. But it is very strange for like everybody to side not with the guy who's been very upfront. Like go look at any of these interviews and every time Eddie Hearn will tell you exactly why he wants what he wants. Now that could be a lie.
Starting point is 00:47:02 He's a promoter's lie all the time. but he is answering direct questions. Hey, why don't you want Dana White involved? What's he doing? Like, what is his involvement in the sport? Hey, Dana, what is your job? I'm involved in the fight. Like, okay, but that's like, what is your job?
Starting point is 00:47:17 Like, they tell you who they are, man. If one guy can answer questions and the other doesn't, to me, that says something. This fight isn't going to happen. Like, I just, I think it's over. And we're going to keep spinning our wheels forever because we got into the world's worst ego contest. I truly hope. Now I just don't want to happen just because it's the funniest outcome. It's the funny outcome.
Starting point is 00:47:42 Or AJ or AJ just fight somebody else and on Netflix. And that's fine too. Like this whole thing, like the whole thing is just so stupid. Like if you, we're here for the fans. Like it was just like, hey, Dana, can you just like, like, dude, you can like promote in the back end? But can you just like stay home? And then we can make the fight. Like, how fucking hard is that?
Starting point is 00:48:04 I don't understand why he, like, I'm with you. Like, I don't understand why he has to be part of it. For, like, for this fight to move forward. Like, if it's just him, if he's the one obstacle that's getting everybody that will get everybody on board, like, get him the fuck out of there. I don't understand. I don't understand. The whole thing's going to be a disaster anyways, Jed, because it's going to be a ring magazine production. it's going to be on, yes, it's going to be on Netflix,
Starting point is 00:48:35 but it's going to be a ring production. We're going to see Coppinger on the screen, looking like the dude from scanners all night. And then we're going to have 14 hours between fights. It's just going to be a shit show. Dude, think about this. What are we doing? Because, like, this is the thing that I thought
Starting point is 00:48:51 when Dana started talking today, the thing I was watching it, I was just like, you shouldn't be involved anyway. Like, if we said everything else aside and just started from here and called here, ground zero. Like everybody should be like, hey, Dana, don't sit this one out.
Starting point is 00:49:08 Because like, if you're involved, like, you have subsumed the conversation around these two athletes. The conversation is not Fury and Joshua boxing. It is the pissing contest between these two entities. Like, that's, Eddie Hearn was right. When he was like, I think me versus Dana a box match to be the biggest fight boxing you make right now. Yeah, probably is.
Starting point is 00:49:27 Like, and that's by continuing this on and having this very stupid fight. fight, like you have taken all of the focus away from the athletes. And so if you do, if somehow he ends up getting involved, then like, what do you think, Dana, what do you think those pressers at that event will be? You know, you wouldn't. I know there's conflicting reports, but like it seems to me, in my opinion, that they basically didn't really let Oscar de La Jolla show up to the Ryan Garcia fight, despite him being the ostensible promoter of this bout.
Starting point is 00:50:00 like they functionally blacklisted him because you didn't really want to do with the like, hey, me and Oscar are going to be on a stage promoting the same fight. Like, that's going to be a thousand times worse if this happens. Just for once in your life, walk away. Be like, hey, a thing happened without me. That's okay. I'm focused on Zufa boxing, you know,
Starting point is 00:50:22 because that's not, this isn't Zufa boxing. There aren't any Zufo Boxing fighters involved in this event. Dude, the card is the day before UFC 335. Focus on UFC 335. Put your promotional energy towards a UFC card for the first time this year. Do that. Do that. Like leave PowerSlapp alone for a week.
Starting point is 00:50:43 Leave boxing alone for a week. You're fine. Put your promotional push. Get excited and get fans excited about a UFC event for the first time in a long time. Do it. Please. Mike, you said earlier that if you had one question asked Dana, it would have been that one talking about.
Starting point is 00:51:00 the question that reporter asked me talking about. And this is why you're better than I am. Just a better person, certainly a better media member. Better at everything, really. Because at this point, if I had,
Starting point is 00:51:14 at this point, if I had one question that I could ask Dana, I'd get the microphone and I'd be all sweet. Like, Dana, hey, thanks for doing this. It's so great.
Starting point is 00:51:23 I only have one question and I'll get out of here. You talk to these other people. So, remember when you said that the UFC is better than boxing because you make the fights that people want and you didn't do that in the UFC and now you've come to boxing and you've actively sabotaged the fight that people wanted do you have a comment on that because it's just like he he entered boxing his whole thing is like I make the fights and people like buddy you miss the fights we want all the time
Starting point is 00:51:54 Like, people came into last year wanting two fights, and they didn't get either of them. All anybody started to talk about last year, and frankly, for like a good chunk of this year, was, we really want to see John Jones, why Tom Aspin, or really want to see the Lidipaterpichita's a mock, Jeff. Neither of those happen. And now you're in boxing for nine months, and you turf a fight that had been in the process for a decade and was finally over the line. Like you are not Come on man Just walk away and give us this one
Starting point is 00:52:27 What was the question The question was Do you remember That day does it do What was the question anymore Now he literally has He has an AI Little AI computer in front of him
Starting point is 00:52:42 And while the question is done He waits for it to like Load up what the question was And then he attempts to answer it And it's just Oh it's so brutal man Like there's just, it's no effort at all. It's such a, ah, it's so crazy.
Starting point is 00:52:58 It's crazy. Can somebody please, like, can somebody please come along and challenge them? It's not going to happen anytime soon, but can someone truly just come along and challenge him? I have another update, Mike. This is again from Leo Gamars, uh, who says that Davy Ramos, who is part of Hone's team, posted a video on his Instagram, uh, saying the fighters undergoing CT scans we knew. telling fans stay calm, everything is okay.
Starting point is 00:53:25 So it's not like a huge update on things that have happened, but a member of his team seems to think that they're in good shape. Okay. So again, hopefully. Let's see.
Starting point is 00:53:43 Okay, so he did put out a video, but yeah, we'll have to get that. I said, isn't it in Portuguese? Yes. So there you go. Ironically, that was a great day and impression. Yeah, I mean, like it. It's just the greatest hits, man, over and over again. What was the question? Oh, there's
Starting point is 00:53:58 always one fucking stupid question at every press conference. Congratulations. You're the one. Like, it's crazy, dude. Like, it's, it's unbelievable, man. It's unbelievable. Do we have anything else? Do we have any more super chats? Do we have anything else? There's definitely at least a super chat or two in there. Yeah, I think we got everything in the super chat department. I'm going to scroll up. I missed that we got one of those. Yeah. Yeah, let's see what The Dante Moore one, I didn't realize we'd done that. I just thought you were saying it. Press conference canceled.
Starting point is 00:54:29 Yes, the press conference was canceled because there was nobody to do the press conference. Hione certainly wasn't coming. Rawleros Jr. was sent to the hospital. And unless you wanted 30 minutes of Eileen Perez, and it doesn't seem like a single soul wanted that, there was no press conference. So listen, if you want to go watch a funny press conference, go watch the zoo for boxing one and watch Dana just fall apart up on that desk while people just asked him normal questions. That's the thing.
Starting point is 00:55:01 I just don't know why you have to be mad about it too. You could just be like, yeah, you're nice question. He fucking showed up, Jed, and was like, gee, I wonder what you guys are going to ask me about. Yeah. You knew it was all coming. Dude. Like, what's the problem? I would really love to see what his chat GPT answers are because I feel like he just goes
Starting point is 00:55:21 with it, you know? He reads them. Like he reads the, he reads them verbatim. Yeah, until he's like, there's not enough anger in this. And I got to be more mad about it.
Starting point is 00:55:30 And then he starts going. It's freaking crazy, dude. Before we get out of here, Mike, because I think we're going to get out of here in a moment. What else? Did you watch BKFC tonight? I watched the main event.
Starting point is 00:55:45 Okay. So did I. Well, I like half watched it. I had at one point had five screens up tonight. It was a lot. How do we feel? We old Romero, 50-year-old, we all Romero.
Starting point is 00:55:56 I feel like that was a bigger robbery, honestly, than any of the other stuff in the UFC. I completely agree. Completely agree. I scored it. My heart scored at 4946 for Romero. A small part of my brain scored at 4945 for Romero because there was a knockdown. He didn't get any fucking credit for. I was told you that happened after the bell, but I'm not certain.
Starting point is 00:56:24 I'm not certain either, but if it was regardless, at worst, it was 48, 47 Romero. I had, like, when they were lining them up, I was like, there's no world, Darren to won the fight. And then, like, two seconds for the night. I was like, oh, this is in the UK. He might get some home cooking. And then it was three 4946s. I was like, what the fuck? fight were they watching that's crazy that is crazy and it just go look like i know we talk about like
Starting point is 00:56:57 yeah it's run by round but yeah yoel won at least three rounds maybe four and yowel didn't even look like he was in a fist fight and darin till looked like half of his face was falling off of his body so like if i thought it was pretty clear yowl won uh my biggest takeaway was Darren Till's a fine fighter a fine boxer Mike Perry he needs to stay the F away from him
Starting point is 00:57:24 don't fight Mike and BKFC dude you find a way to box him with gloves on or get in an MMA fight with him do not bare-knuckle box him because he's going to do bad things Darren Till yeah my big takeaway is that Y'all Romero is
Starting point is 00:57:40 I think he's just the best athlete who's ever fought in MMA it's great dude It's insane that he is 50. And like, I retweeted something from a person I've never seen before who was like, my hot take is that Yo Romero is in fact totally natural. His body just naturally produces trend. I was like, honestly, I kind of buy it. Like, I don't, it's insane that he is still like him and Suhudo.
Starting point is 00:58:05 Sohudo's 40 years old. It looked good at boxing. I mean, you know, it's miss fits. It's been bought like a guy who has done real boxing and looked very good. Like just insane athleticism. And the fact that Yoel also like doesn't wear damage ever, like he just doesn't look like he gets cut or beat up. Insane.
Starting point is 00:58:24 Just truly ludicrous. What a guy. What a guy. Yeah. Lockedwell. Mike, I have a question. I'm not trying to be big fan of you guys.
Starting point is 00:58:33 Do you find R. F entertaining. As an M.A. fan of you, it does nothing for me. And as a fan of you, I like you covering MMA. Fair question.
Starting point is 00:58:41 I like it. I like it. Now, is every event like an absolute heater? No, it's not. Miami, the most recent one, there were some cool moments like Mugsy getting the pin last second was pretty badass, what he was about to get tecked. Was that the most recent one?
Starting point is 00:59:00 That was, was that two ago? Two weeks ago. Yeah, it was like two weeks ago against Tarzan. Some competitive matchups, but like it was kind of a slow-moving night. And then, you know, Hamzaa Burns is actually quite fun. because it burns got a take down on them and then colby and blal is exactly what i thought colby and blal would be so like there's some squash matches some events are way more exciting than others it's way to
Starting point is 00:59:26 me i honestly have never watched aria no that's not so true i watched the moscow card live as was happening shadow vpn world and that like it moves quickly even on the broadcast end but like in the arena, like it moves 10 times faster. So like it doesn't seem as slow because there's always stuff happening. Like match ends, they come on and they fire the crowd up and they do a bunch of shit or they like interview a wrestler or something and then it's like on to the next thing. So like, yeah, I like it. I like it. Is it heater after heater every single time? No, but no combat sport is. And yeah, I like to, I like just being there for the weeks, man. Like, Hamzaa Chimayev, like R.A. F. Hamzot is adult.
Starting point is 01:00:07 delight. The dude is delightful. He's smiling. He's having a good time. Uh, he says, hello to everybody. Like, he's just a different cat out there. Armand's the same way. Like, you see these, you just see a different side of these guys and gals, uh, especially the ones who have been around the UFC machine for so long and seem so miserable half the times during those fight weeks. They show up at RAF and they're just like, they're different people. They're just happy and you just kind of get to see that different side of them. So, Yeah, it's, it is what it is, man. Vegas will be fun.
Starting point is 01:00:42 You get Hamzat and Armin on that card and we get some special stuff being, being worked out as it relates to the, to the Vegas stuff. So stay tuned for that. I still think the product is good. The bloom is a little off the rose for me. It is still, I still like that it's short, you know, it's three, two, three hours or whatever it is. the pacing moves very quickly
Starting point is 01:01:08 as they just get wrestlers and go they're in the position now where I want a little bit more from them it's a lot of squash matches and it's a fine line because elite level wrestling ends up being like super defensive
Starting point is 01:01:26 and not a lot of points are scored so you have to navigate that because that's not fun for anybody either but you know like they're just there's starting starting to be a little too much of like, why is this happening? We know it's like, why is Jordan Burroughs wrestling, like, not real wrestlers?
Starting point is 01:01:44 Why is he guys, John Brady? Yeah, like, that's like, sure. And credit to Sean Brady in the buildup to that. Because, like, I respected his talk at the pressors immensely where he was just like, yeah, I'm not going to win. He just owned it. He's like, that's the greatest wrestler, like American wrestler maybe of all time, certainly in the conversation.
Starting point is 01:02:03 I'm not going to win. But what if I'm not going to win? But what if I even look like kind of okay for a minute? That'd be cool. Like, and it's just a good experience. Like, I do respect that,
Starting point is 01:02:12 but it's like, okay, we got a, I think we've gone a little too far into like, Mugsy versus thing, that's fine because those, it's a little more like a misfits. These are both not real wrestler,
Starting point is 01:02:24 but kind of wrestlers. But when we're doing like Olympic champions and stuff, like when Kennedy Blades, just like, yeah, let me wrestle some UFC fires. Like, I don't need to see you.
Starting point is 01:02:34 Like, if it's Sarah McMannan, who at least has a wrestling background maybe, but I don't need to see you, like, throw Alexa Grasso on her head or whatever that's going to be. That's very silly. So they're doing,
Starting point is 01:02:44 they've turned a little too much in some ways, but it's still, it is still a tightly run product, which I appreciate. And not everything's going to be bangers all the time. You're going to have peaks and valleys. And so I'm sure it'll come back around. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:59 I thought Moscow's very good. It's more, like, for every, you know kind of a tough one to watch or a defensive one you get kyle schneider versus uh ritziback which was like the most electric thing i've seen live combat really good and like in such a long time came out of nowhere and it was like unbelievable comeback stuff so like yeah dude they're they're a year in they're just over a year in so let's see if they can keep this going i think the formula's
Starting point is 01:03:27 there maybe just throw a couple more spices in there mix that shit up what i need to see from them and i I don't know if everyone wants this. At one point, I forget who it was. I guess it was one of their heavyweights. So, like, maybe it was Wyatt Hendrickson or whatever. But, like, Tristan Worf's. They were doing a show in Tampa and Tristan Worf's was there, like, a sitting thing. He was like, I want to wrestle you.
Starting point is 01:03:53 And I was like, look, I know Wyatt Hendricks. He's like, I know White Henderson will win. But Tristan Worf is also 360 and Wyatt Hendrickson is 260. And he's an unbelievable athlete. and I'm kind of at least interested in something like, if you're going to be giving me Jordan Burroughs with Sean Brady, which is a non-competitive nonsense match, give me Jordan Burroughs versus Tristan Worf,
Starting point is 01:04:17 which is like, how good of a wrestler are you? Can you just move a 400-pound man? I want to see that, you know? Because like, that's, you can't do, like, people do it, and there's a big part of Freak Show and May. We've talked about it before on this show and others. That's great, and I love that.
Starting point is 01:04:34 has a special place in my heart, but there is always the downside that like freak show MMA is really fun until something terrible happens. And like, as how many Barsela has showed us tonight, MMA is like, there are real consequences that can happen in that sport.
Starting point is 01:04:47 And so you do need to treat it with some level of like respect. Wrestling's wrestling, bro. Like you can kind of do what if we had like, I would do a series. If I'm RF, feel free to take this by the way. I want you to do this. If you can credit me,
Starting point is 01:05:04 at some point have chale be like the great jedd mashu who i person love and respect came up with this one we thought was great take who's like take henry sahuto honestly you take henry sehudo former flyweight champion former bannamweight champion i forgot what he wrestled marab at i don't remember what they wrestled at you take henry sehudo and you do in january you go all right henry you're going to wrestle marab or whoever it is somebody of comparable size it was like 150 pounds i think Yeah, okay. Sure, you do that at 150 pounds against Marab. Then you beat Marab now, Henry, former Olympic champion.
Starting point is 01:05:43 We're going to level you up. Are you just beat Marab, eh, at 150 pounds? Let's go up to 160 and get him a 160 guy. Then you go to 170 and you just have him month over month climb the ladder and be like, can Henry Suhudo, Olympic gold medalist beat Sean Strickland in pure wrestling, you know, or whatever dumb shit you want to do? and like that would just be like a very interesting silly gimmick that I would be I love this God that's a great idea
Starting point is 01:06:10 because you can wait like you can do that in this because no one will be like oh like it would honestly be kind of funny to watch like Tristan Wirth just pancake Henry Sudoh and a sprawl you know and like that would be funny be like okay look you can be a world class wrestler there is some limit to weight ratios here maybe uh maybe Henry Suhuda can welcome Ray Lewis to the organization. How about that? Maybe that's what we end up to. We got to start small.
Starting point is 01:06:41 We get to start the linebackers before we get to Tristan. So like, yeah, if you could. If honestly, if you could do it like, all right, let's get to every, we're going to have Henry over the course of a year wrestle every defensive player for the bucks. Like some gimmick like that. It would just be sick. It would be very stupid. And I would like it.
Starting point is 01:07:00 I would love it a lot. So if you boys are. listening or Mike next time you're at a show be like hey jet has this idea it might need some workshopping right like I'm not saying we found it immediately but let's have some fun because that would be very fun to me that would like that is significantly better and more entertaining and more valuable than Jordan borough's wrestling Sean Brady it's like yeah he's going to instateck him got it didn't didn't you have raf and our uh fantasy promotion I did oh see this is technically this is your call this is me yeah it's great this is your call all right
Starting point is 01:07:35 All right, that's it. We have, again, no, no updates on the Hione Barcel situation. Outside of what we heard and Dobby Ramos, we've seen this multiple. So, hey, guys, Hione is fine. Everything is all right. Everyone can stay calm. He just went to do the tomography now, but everything is fine. We are here waiting from everyone stay calm. Or everyone can stay calm. Thanks. Good. There you go. I mean, we will see more, but hopefully you get some more tomorrow. Maybe we get like a social media post from Hione or something like that and get more of an update.
Starting point is 01:08:17 But he's gone to guess his coaches will let us know because they'll probably have an answer before morning. So it might be like two in the morning, but. But good. I'm glad it seems to be okay. Yeah. Onsen next on tomorrow. He didn't leave one of the scariest moments of my career. Yeah, very scary. Could have been a lot worse. Looked really bad. But yeah, hopefully we have an update. We'll talk more about it tomorrow.
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