MMA Fighting - UFC Vegas 14: RDA vs. Felder Post-Fight Show

Episode Date: November 15, 2020

With UFC Vegas 14 in the books, MMA Fighting’s Mike Heck, Jose Youngs, Alexander K. Lee and E. Casey Leydon break down the top storylines from Saturday night’s event at the UFC APEX, including Rafael dos Anjos’ successful return to the lightweight division against Paul Felder in the main event.  Follow Mike Heck: @MikeHeck_JR Follow José Youngs: @JoseYoungs Follow Alexander K. Lee: @AlexanderKLee Follow E. Casey Leydon: @ekc Subscribe: http://goo.gl/dYpsgH Check out our full video catalog: http://goo.gl/u8VvLi Visit our playlists: http://goo.gl/eFhsvM Like MMAF on Facebook: http://goo.gl/uhdg7Z Follow on Twitter: http://goo.gl/nOATUI Read More: http://www.mmafighting.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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So thank you for joining us as we welcome you to the MMA-Fiting UFC Vegas 14 post-fight show. I am Mike Heck. No fancy Fador sweater tonight, but happy to be joined by the rest of the horse. Horstman, Jose Youngs is here, E. Casey Leiden is here. A.K. Lee will be joining us, but he's not here quite yet, but they're a coward. Coward. Show your face, AK. Where are you, Candy Lee? I don't know what's funnier, that image or the image of Shorty Torres's empty chair during between the lengths. Just amazing stuff. But we promised yesterday during the shortened pre-fight show, preview show, that,

we would make it up to you. So we're going to answer a lot of questions tonight, but we're going to talk about the main event first. Let's talk about Jafel de Sanjos. He got me all sorts of fired up with his walkout song, walking out to Kumete from the movie Bloodsport A-plus entrance song, taking on Paul Felder, who replaced Islam Makachev on just five days notice. The fight was grueling. It was fun. Both guys brought it. RDA was super impressive when the action went to the cage walls. And in the end, former champ gets back in the wind column with a split decision, which is just ridiculous. I'm sorry, I love Paul Feldar,

but to score that fight for him is just absolutely ridiculous. But Jose, thoughts on that main event? RDA's returned to 155 and a very successful one at that. It looked like Hafeo de Sanyos had been in a full fight camp, and Paul Feldar had not walked into an MMA gym in what, four months, four weeks, whatever he said. So Paul Feldor looked great offensively, especially in the early rounds.

Like he looked real crisp, quick and everything. But that just goes to show you that he's been doing kickboxing, Miota so long that it's not hard for him to just get off the couch and get in the fight. But his defense just wasn't there. Like he was getting hit a lot. He was getting tagged a lot with the end of RDA's strikes, and he couldn't stop the takedown. And he was holding his own on the ground,

but his timing just wasn't there defensively. Offensively, it looks like he had had a missed a beat, but I just don't think the timing was there to try to avoid any damage coming his way. But it is what it is. He took the fight on five days notice, so don't hold it against him. it's pretty much I thought RDA might get a finish at some point in the later rounds

especially if you took him down with one of those arm triangles, arm chokes that he's put so many fighters away with but Paul Felder held him off, survived, lost, should be an unanimous decision. I had it, 5-0 RDA. I can see the argument for 4-1-Felder, but there's no way in the world

Paul Felder won three of those rounds. I think even Paul Feldor looked surprised when they read the scorecard. So yeah, RDA-5-0 on my score. cards. Yeah, it was it was just one of those fights. Like Felder has moments. It looked like maybe the first and second round were we're kind of close, but then RDA just kind of took over with his, just that grueling, you know, game plan that he always brings to the table. He looked fantastic tonight. Casey, you were on the preview show yesterday and you predicted that this

main event would be, quote, a five-round snoozer. You could not have watched this fight tonight and thought, oh, man, this fight sucks. Like the fight was, the fight was great, was it not? But all cutting aside, what did you think of it now that it's over? I said a five-round snoozer in a sense that it's going to be a, I thought it was going be a dominant win, much like, I thought it was going to be RDA versus Anthony Pedest-type performance, which I feel it pretty much was. I mean, no, it wasn't a snoozer. It was definitely fighting a night.

It was actually more exciting than I thought it was going to be, but I felt if RDA wanted just to 100% used out wrestling, it could have been a snoozer. but I think RDA wanted, I think he wanted an action fight and he got one, but I think he also is a very smart fighter and he realized, oh, if I'm, if I do this all stand-up, yeah, I may beat Mr. Felder, but I think if I use my wrestling, use my, all that training I used to train for Islam, it was just, it was just a smart, smart move by Mr. Dosanjos. And look who we have here. Hold on, hold on. We have a, we have someone calling in right now. Who is this? it's my best friend hey buddy oh I thought I didn't think you'd have it set up I thought I had to go to the

what's going on everybody yeah welcome to to live post fight show oh exciting okay well back back what I was saying um was quite no um it wasn't a snooze fest

but um it I think Jose actually said it was it looked like RDA on a full camp versus a very, very good striker with no camp, who was training for a triathlon. A.K., welcome, welcome, and you were looking at this fight. I believe it was almost like a similar comparison to like the Robert Whitaker versus Jared Kennedy fight.

Like there seemed to be sort of like a, you felt there's like kind of like a blatant disrespect towards RDA. But this is one of those like, don't you know who I am type? performances from hafiel de sages like you said on this here channel that rdaa heading into this fight despite not being in this division over the last four years was a top five lightweight in the world do you feel vindicated right now after tonight uh of course i do you guys all casey me he laughed at me when i said he was still top five i said i'd put him above daniel hooker i said that's that's for me is like the kind of top five top six and i said i put i put rda up there uh yeah he

He looked great. I think Casey is right as well. Yeah, it's, I mean, it's literally what he described. It was a trained, very highly trained, well-prepared fighter versus a guy who just admitted post-fight that Nepal Feltar said that he hadn't been in an MA gym in four months. And frankly, he didn't look that. I think he didn't look that bad. If you heard Bissing on commentary, he was definitely being up his boy a lot. But yeah, there was a lot of truth in that. He actually did, he did look strong at moments tonight, especially in the stand of course. Grappling was a whole other story. This is something we discussed on Pre-Fight show. right where it's when you're facing someone like RDA, it's not just about being in shape. It's his skill set is so diverse that if you're not drilling a lot of the things that he's strong at, not just the wrestling, but RDA kept catching with that straight left hand. I mean,

that's something that again, you would catch, you would pick up on a training and you would drill not getting caught by that, little things like that. And you only have 25 minutes to adapt. And I thought I felt that did a great job for what it was. But that grappling of RDA is on a whole other level. So yeah,

I stand by it. I think he'll see a number back next to his name again this week. and the rankings come out, and I think it'll be number five. Jose Paul Felder had a great speech during his post-fight interview. He basically called out the fighters who missed weight, saying that, you know, I haven't been in an MA gym in four months. I still got on the scale. It sucked, but I got to 156.

I did my job, and then I went in there and fought five rounds. But the more importantly than anything, he said that I'm not going anywhere. I'm still going to fight. Are you surprised by this? Because it seemed like a lot of people felt this is going to be the swan song, win or lose for Paul Feldor, and it seems that that is not the case. Well, I think I said it on the preview show. If he did lose, I think it would be a matter of how he would lose would determine if he

sticks around or not. If I said, if he goes five round and it's a close fight, or if he looks any sort of competitive and doesn't get finished, he'll probably come back just because he is the type of competitor that he is. But the fact, if he had just gone out there and what happened to Chaos Williams' opponent happened to Paul Felder, you probably wouldn't be fighting again just because it was like a litmus test

for himself to see if he could hang in there. He lasted all five rounds. No, it doesn't surprise me that he wants to come back. He was super fired up. He didn't look like you said, like we all said, five days notice and he was actually competitive against a former champion. So no, I'm not even remotely surprised

that Paul Felders coming back. There's also, there's a, with the addition of Michael Chandler in the division, Paul Felder, like, now I don't want to say coming out of retirement, but confirming that he's not, heading off into the sunset, Lightweight, I know everyone talks about Bannamway,

women's straw weight, men's welterway, and all this stuff. But I have been saying the Lightweight Division is the best division in the UFC. And I just think that these two additions to the top ten just reaffirms it in my mind. Well said. A.K., we're going to save our fight predictions for on to the next one. But Casey, if you are the UFC, if you are the one with the book right now, what do you do next with RDA after tonight's victory? Mark a chef

That guy still I mean we don't know how It was a staff They said staff infection Was that what it wasn't Wasn't the rona right Staff infection

So um yeah Which also could be a week It could be six months I mean guys have no Staff infections could be really bad So we don't we just don't know Assuming Markichep isn't available

It's actually that's the thing That's the thing of RDA Like he's it's always kind of been the problem of art there's no real storyline with him it's just like yeah it's like he's good and he's a high level fighters I think any fights really good I can't

hook her I don't know anyone it's like I don't think there's really a particular oh I got to see RDA fight this guy that's kind of maybe it's actually kind of a problem as far as like the UFC building him there's no like urgency to see RDA fight a certain guy to me at least that was a very non-answer for you

Well, I think just, I'm going to base mine off of, what do you call it, process of elimination. So I'm assuming Porre and Connor are going to fight in January. I'm assuming Tony and Chandler are going to fight either December, January, February, whatever you want. So process by elimination, and I'm assuming he's not going to fight Habib, because he already lost him. He's not anywhere near the title.

I wouldn't mind Hafeield Los Angeles versus Justin Gage. I think that's an absolutely awesome scrap. for both men. I mean, Gagy has had beef with Paul Feldor in the past. If Paul Feldner had won, I think that's the fight I would have wanted the most. So in my mind, I'm just going to just replace him with, with, with, Rafael de Sanoos, or the Dan Hooker fight. That's an awesome fight.

That's an awesome fight. Hafeiol de Sarno's, because when he left the lightweight division, yes, there were a lot of these guys in the top 10, top five. But right now, I think it's the best it's been in a long time in terms of pedinous, anyone in that top five outside of Habib, if he does retire, could be the champion. So my answer would be Gaichi or Hooker, but selfishly, I would want the Justin Gaici fight because that's just a violent scrap between two guys who just continuously move forward. I like it. I like it. It's definitely something to think about.

The bonuses for the night have come out. Fight of the night, Hoffield Los Sanjos versus Paul Felder. I don't think anybody's really surprised by that. but if you're Kay Hanson and Corey McKenna, you're probably like, you've got to be kidding me right now. And then the performances of the night, pretty obvious. Chaos Williams is getting one of those 50G bonuses. And then Sean Strickland with a wonderful performance against a really tough guy

in Brennan Allen. He gets it done. He gets an extra 50 Gs. Two wins over a 14-day stretch for him. So a pretty good night. So at this point, I mean, we talked about the main event, but we owe the listeners some time. We owe the listeners some questions after yesterday because we were kind of

press for time. So let's go to the peeps. Let's go to the peeps to see what they have to say. We can talk this car. We can talk a potpourri of different MMA topics. While Casey digs this up, I just want to say, like you said, Mike will wait until our show, you know, the next couple of days to do our official like who should he fight X. But I do think one thing that makes it so difficult for him is that he is willing to fight anyone. I mean, he has that reputation. So I think it was a lot of people, I think Luke Thomas, one of them was tweeting out like sort of, oh, here's the last like 10 guys that already is fine. It's an insane list of people for someone to fight and, like, not,

and I mean, he's got title shots in there, so it's not like he was only getting tough competition and not being rewarded for it. He's been rewarded accordingly. But, yeah, he's just fought a murderous role his entire career. He has an easy fight in forever. And he'll fight anyone, and the UFC knows that. So, unfortunately, that kind of makes it difficult to fantasy match me because he won't say no. Am I the only, Andrew Nali asks, am I the only one who thinks K.S. Williams versus

Nico Price would be crazy. Of course, that would be crazy, right? What do you think about that? What do you think about that, Jose? Only one. I like the fight as a fight, but I think, like, Nico is at that point where he should be fighting,

like, he just fought Donald Soroni. He just fought Vicente Lucke. Like, I really like Chaos Williams as a fighter a lot, and I like Nico Price a lot. There are just other names I would choose Chaos Williams to fight first before he gets Nico Price. Like, again, but if they make that fight, I'm not going to complain.

That fight is awesome. I just think it might be a step back in terms of name value for Nico Price. And I know Chaos Williams is the big guy right now. And we jokes that he should be the Hamzaid. He could be the fighter of the air if he gets one more and fine. But he's not that right now. There's a lot of what is. Like, could he, could he could.

I'm already interested right now. Why is it Dana's selling him like that? Yeah. Because it's Dana White. It's at 8.15 p.m. Arizona time. That is now what Chaos Williams is. I would like to see Cass Williams fight Lizette or

Lizez, Meneer, is that his name? I can't even pronounce his name. I like to see that fight, considering they're the last two guys to beat Abdul. I can never, I can't pronounce this guy's name either. The last, yeah, they're the last two guys to beat Rizak. I know Sean Brady broke his nose,

so I wanted that fight, but that fight's not going to happen. The Bala Muhammad fight, I like too, just so if you want to slot him in against Bala Muhammad or Michelle Pareda. I know Alex always wants to bring him up. Any of those fights I'm down for, but Nico Price, I think it would be a step back

in terms of name value. But I like the Losef fights. So they're both coming off really impressive wins over the same opponent. And Lizez was supposed to fight on the Fight Island card before he was pulled for testing positive for COVID. So if they are going back to Fight Island in January, February, March, and Lizaz wants to stay on that card, I think that's a fight that I would be very interested in. It's interesting.

Yeah, we were talking before we hit record about, you know, comparing chaos to Hamzat because, I mean, Hamzaad has to be brought up on all of these shows at least once. But I mean, just look at the resume right now. Look at the UFC resume. Chaos Williams has fought twice

in a total of 57 seconds and he's knocked out Alex Marano, who just had, I believe, is 11th or 12th U.S. Who just beat the guy that Hamza beat. So naturally he's getting

the Weltsoid title shot. Move over, Leon Edwards. You're back. You're unranked again. You're unranked Leon Edwards. You're out. Maybe, hey, listen, you know, there is, there is a lockdown in the UK right now. You never know.

Maybe they thrust chaos into that spot. I don't think it's going to happen. Is there such a non-crazy Nico Price fight? Like you kind of, Nico fright, I'm just looking at it's like, he hasn't had a non-crazy fight in like, ever. I'm looking at the entire guy. I don't think he's had a non-crazy fight. Nico price fights start at crazy and then you, you work. I mean, you have the potential to work back from there.

they started crazy and escalate from crazy. So, uh, chaos, yeah, would be perfect. I mean, you couldn't ask for a better matchup. So Andrew Nali, you are correct. Uh, no, sorry, you're wrong. You're not the only one. I'm pretty sure all of us were thinking Nico Price versus Chaos Williams or anyone, uh, is a crazy fight.

That would be a crazy fight. RDA versus Chandler similar size and good first test for Michael Chandler. Jose, what do you think about a RDA versus Michael Chandler possibility? I love that fight. I, I, I absolutely love that fight. I just don't think. I think Michael Chandler is going to fight Tony Ferguson, considering Michael Chandler wants a big name.

And he wants to fight Tony Ferguson. And Tony Ferguson, it's like any time the UFC can get Tony Ferguson into the octagon and any sort of happy is a win because it seems like him and the UFC are always at odd. So if Tony Ferguson is asking for Michael Chandler, I imagine that's what the UFC is going to do. But say Michael Chandler or say Tony Ferguson gets hurt or whatever, Those trips on another chord, and Hafei El Sanyos decides to back up his own words and say, I'm always ready, all fight, and they throw in RDA versus Michael Chandler, I'm not going to complain.

I mean, I like the matchup. I just wish, you know, I mean, good on RDA for calling out Chandler, trying to be opportunistic. There's nothing wrong with that. We knew that wasn't going to happen. No. You got to do it. Exactly. Planning the seeds for a download.

Like I said, if Tony Ferguson can't make it because we all know Tony Ferguson, there's no guarantee he's going to make it into the octagon if he signs a contract. So if RDA stays ready and backs up his words and he goes, look, you turn me down because you weren't going to be ready, but now I'm ready to fight you on short notice. And Michael Chandler can't turn that down at that point. So he's already in camping all that. So if RDA is going to be on standby for a possible Michael Chandler fight, awesome. I'm all in.

Do you think the UFC wants that fight though? I don't know. I think at this point, it's hard to say Bayesian. I don't know. Who would, if Michael Chandler gets a main event and they need someone to fight, I don't know where, fight Island or the co-main, I assume, I'm assuming it's going to be five rounds or a co-main event. What lightweight would be ready to go?

I don't think Dan Hooker's going to get through the United States, if it's in the United States, because he's, I don't think he wants to go through all that again on short notice. Charles Oliver maybe, but is he in Brazil? too. So I don't know. Again, I'm just doing process by elimination. Yeah, RDA had his whole camp in Brazil too. So if it's the next man up, so be it.

But if Dosayno's is the next highest ranked person available and Michael Chandler really wants to fight on the specific date he signed for, I don't, I think the UFC would be fine with it. But again, who knows with the UFC? Yeah, I mean, I would like to see the fight. I don't think it's going to happen. I'm with you.

I mean, the UFC's been promotionally pushing Michael Chandler pretty hard. I mean, he got his own promotional package, you got his own interview at UFC 254. I mean, I know he's the backup fighter and all that stuff. Maybe they're just, like, giving him some props for that. But I mean, this is a big deal. They think Chandler's a big deal signing for them. So I think it will end up being the Ferguson fight.

Ferguson made that video that you can see on M.A.fighting.com calling out Chandler for December 12th. And after losing two main events, you still get a really good title fight between Al Jermaine Sterling or Piotrion and Al Jermaine Sterling, champion first pal but um you throw that as a co-made event that's that's awesome you're getting a bunch of pay-per-byes for that one that that's a good little uh good little appetizer for the title fight aka your thoughts on uh yeah all of this r d a chanler would be a hell of a constellation prize to some of the other you know chanler a massive that have turned out there four years ago i mean this would have been a dream fight right i think you know that's when rda was championed rippie he's coming

to the end of his championship run and chanler was in i think in the middle of one of his championship runs So that's really like, that's really the beauty of MMA, isn't it? And kind of also what keeps the UFC, why they're number one, you know, for all of its, for all of its many flaws is that they can still produce backups like this, which even four years later, I think you put those two down on paper. Again, it's maybe not the top fight that Chandler would want right now. But man, Chandler and RDA, you're getting a lot of fan interest there. Yeah, maybe not a main event. Probably a fight night main event, if you want to roll that out. But otherwise, yeah, really high profile, pay-per-view co-main event.

Man, that's a fun, fun fight. So, yeah, I'm all for two good suggestions so far. Well done comments. Well done. Zero chance. I love it. Let's steal some of this. Zero chance.

Zero chance. Zero chance. There's no. Minus injuries, minus injuries or people popping for the Rona. Outside of an official signing full camp fight, zero chance. It won't be the original booking. There's no chance that it's the original booking. There's no chance that's the fight they try to make.

This is only going to come down. Can it be like a Nate Diaz situation? Yeah, I'll fight on 11 days notice. So being at being. MMA, it's like a 98% chance. It's definitely happening, then. Let's give me the main event next week. If they book Michael Chandler versus Tony Ferguson,

the main event we're going to end up getting as Dan Hooker versus Paul Felder. Two replacement fighters. Yeah. What's next for Felder, Jose, is the question here. That's tough, man. That's tough. Running swimming, and biking.

If the Gatry fight wouldn't be bad, if they're both coming off losses and there is some sort of history there, I wouldn't. Obviously, if my absolute first choice would be Edson Barbos to move us back up and we get the trilogy fight, but that's not going to happen with Barbosa featherway now. Charles Alivara, he's already fought and beat. That's tough, man. I feel like we have to have a lot of these fights play out before we could fantasy match make Paul Felder. Like right now at 8.23 p.m. Arizona time, I don't think there's any clear-cut person for Paul Feller to fight next. Like Arizona not respecting daylight savings. What's up of that? Yeah, because we're the 48th state, bro. We were like, we're the last state in the continental United States to be founded. So, of course, we're not going to fall for this skull duggery that is. What about the farmers? What about the farmers? What about them, Casey? What about them? you said the time in Arizona

with such like I don't know there was a tone and not like about the way you said the time who invented daily savings time

Ben Franklin was he the one that proposed it kick rocks Ben Franklin the uh the only name I can see the only name that I can see

that's unassigned that Feldor might consider fighting if only because he still got a bit of a name and I think it'd be a bit of a wait it would probably be till next year when we see this guy again we don't know what exactly

where is but Al Ayakinta might be the only fight again. I think that would be a fight because I remember Paul Heldor giving interview saying he was like naming a few names that might get interested. And Al was one of those names. Yeah. So I forgot about Al. Yeah. I think he's definitely higher than that.

But as far as unassigned names, like people he wouldn't have to wait for and they could start like talking about it now or, you know, waiting for whenever Iakintas. I'm not sure what he's out for. But whenever he's ready to fight again, like you could start those, you know, you could start those talks and negotiations this week. Right. and, you know, set something for January, February, March, I don't know. I interviewed Felder right before the, the first Fight Island trip, and he said that he was offered Ally Quinta, and he turned it down because it wasn't a big enough fight for him at the time to get him back into it.

But maybe now, maybe now that he seems to be fired up about it. I like that matchup. Spoiler, that's probably going to be my pick for on to the next one, unless I have this epiphany tomorrow morning. But we'll see. I'm not against a rematch with Charles Alivara. I think Charles Lavera is a different fighter now. Not a different,

but he's a better, more mature fighter. I don't know if Paul would take that. I would, I would absolutely love that fight, and I know, like, Oliver would take it. I was more viewing it as a...

I understand. I just think, I just think... I love that fight. Yeah. I just want to say Charles Olivera back. I'm tired of, like, like, what happened then?

I just want to see it back. I need to see more Charles Oliver. All right Well, Connor McGregor already tweeted after he gets done with Dustin He wants to fight RDA Really? Yeah, he just tweeted

He said, Dustin first, but I'm down for it all. Throwback to this classic. Look at Dana. Ha, ha, ha, ha. Vintage MMA entertainment, El Chapo, and it's a photo of him posing like El Chapo. Oh, there we go.

That is verbatim what he tweeted. Fantastic stuff. Do you guys know what rounds that judge gave to Felder? Oh, do you have it again? I can bring it up. I can pop it up in a second. Yeah, bring it up. I have to see this ridiculousness.

I'll say it as Casey's pointed up. He gave the middle three, two, three, and four for Felder. That's insane. Okay. Now, now let's, all right, now let's look at the striking numbers. Three is the weird one. Stop doing striking numbers. This is MMA, man.

I'm not saying. number. Well, I'll say this. The stats they showed at the screen were apparently not even close to accurate. I think, I think this stats showed the screen where like, it was like, it was like Felder had like, had like more than like 30 more significant strikes in R.A. which is, which seems impossible. Michael Bisbing was, we're doing those stats. Those were not real stats. That was Michael Bisving stats. Here are the USDs.com stats, which are much more accurate, which you usually put up after. Very, very close significant strikes. Ninety eight total significant strikes for Felder. 92 for Dosanos. And then you add in the, you add in the takedowns and

control time. It's not even close. So, yeah, I could see maybe giving a round to Felder. I would have had it 50, 45, dos aanos, but three rounds by my brother, Chris Lee. I mean, my brother's name actually is Chris Lee, by the way, but he's not an MMA-A judge. I assure you. But I always joke, he's my brother. But yes, Chris Lee, you should be embarrassed. That is a terrible, terrible, terrible score. You have to explain your, no, and he should have to, Sal DiMato had one of these earlier tonight as well, and you guys should have to explain yourselves before you are allowed to coach to be booked for another fight. That's horrible.

Got him. So our good friend and between the links panelists in the past Aaron Braun said our tweet out, Judge Chris Lee, who scored the main event for Fall Felder has been involved in 10 UFC slash Bellator split decisions in 2020

and was the dissenting judge in seven of those 10. That's not good. Yeah, that's not good. That's a pattern. I tweeted that was worse Yo, that was worse than the 27-26 yoder At least that one got the right winner You know

I couldn't believe I wish I was at this card I wish I was at this card So it'd be like Dana Dainna Big Stits Big Stitts That was a lot of

The cards tonight A lot going on on the cards I love when I watch Boxing events And before the main event happens They go over the judges And what controversial Or significant

decisions they've made. I think that's a fantastic thing boxing does, and I've never seen it done to MMA. I don't understand. Remember when they used to show MMA judge's faces on the broadcast? Yeah. Remember they were going to introduce them, like make that happen. So if I'm out getting a coffee and I see so-and-so judge, I can walk up to him and grab them by the shows and be like, what are you looking at? Stop buying coffee and go watch tape, and then I can let him go. Is it, are any of us against? Why? They don't show their faces. Are any of us against that? We don't need to show their faces, maybe. but I would like a discussion

on the judges who are calling, especially the main event. It's like, is there any, are there any, are people like, no, I don't want to see that. I don't, I don't get it. Every time I watch boxing, I think it's wonderful and,

yeah. Because, because, Casey, you know why. Yeah, I know why, thank you. You know why, Casey. Because it makes too much sense and MMA is a silly sport. You call it a sport.

Casey, I don't know if you're going to, are you going to bring up a question about the Hansen-McKenna fight? We can just talk about it. Yeah, it's worth discussing. I didn't think it was a horrible scorecard. So lead us into it. Tell what happened. Well, that was a really close fight between two 21-year-old prospects. I actually think it was a better fight than the main event.

I actually would have given them the fight of the night with respect to, with respect to Felden and Dostan. That was a great fight. But McKenna won, unanimous decision, 29, 28. So very close rounds, very close score cards. And I saw a lot of people right away. way, calling robbery. I did not think so, though I had scored the fight 29, 28 for Hanson myself, but it was very close. And MMA decisions, I believe only two media members scored the fight for McKenna, and then the other, I don't know how many it is, 14, something like that, 14 people

scored it for Hanson. So there was a lot of dissension there as well. Now the scores, so the stats are interesting here. So Hansen did have more significant strikes, 67 to 57, which is actually a pretty good amount. I think any time you strike someone significantly by double digits, pretty good, Not overwhelming. Total strikes. Well, you go round by round. It's true. It makes a difference as well.

But total strikes. McKenna 156 Hansen 87. So yes, I mean, when we're counting total strikes, we're counting a lot of pitter-patter, you know, little shots of the body, things like that. But I think when you get outlanded that much, even in total strikes, I don't know if you can make an argument for a robbery. It clearly means that the fighter who won supposed robbery was doing something.

So very close fight. I think Hansen won, but certainly. not a robbery. What round was the swing round? Is it round one? Is that the round three? Round three, is pretty clearly I think it was all over. All three judges have the judges score it. All three judges gave one and two.

Yeah, I think all three judges gave first and second round to McKenna and gave the third round to Hanson. Which is weird because it seemed like, I'm totally forgetting the fight now. I thought it was the other way. Let me check this, hold on. Right, that's the thing. Discuss the

fight amongst yourselves. It seemed like everybody gave the third round to McKenna. Yeah, I thought the third round was a dominant round. I thought the second round was Hansen. Third round was pretty clear McKenna. I thought it was the first. I thought first round was definitely Hansen. Took her back, beat her up a little bit on the feet.

It might be forgetting it. Was the third round too? Was the first round when she got her back, when she was just holding her back, and McKenon was just punching her a whole bunch of times, or was that the second round? That was the first round. that's why I can see I get it I don't agree with it but I get it because Hansen just held on

it got her back and I was like all right what are you going to do now and then she wasn't doing anything for a while and McKinnon was just punching her a whole bunch and even she like looking at her she looks surprised like why is why is it so easy right now why am I punching and she's not blocking or moving to the next step because even the commentators were like I guess that's doing something like I get it like McKenna got to the down position and I mean Hansen got the domicition and then just like stopped for like 10 seconds. And then McKenna was just like, all right, let's keep punching you until you do something. So I get it, but I don't agree with it.

I'm just trying to play devil's advocate. Yeah. Yeah, Mike, you're right. It was all two judges agreed, scored it the same way, first two rounds for McKenna, last round for Hansen. Yeah, my beef with, as cool as it was with McKenna, like controlling both of, and again, this is something Hansen, I think, is going to kick herself for it later, getting both of her arms controlled by one of McKenna's arms.

It was actually really impressive by McKenna and something. Again, Hansen will probably be upset about when she watched the footage. But yeah, those punches she was landing, they were clean, but none of them were more impactful than the need of the head that Hanson had landed moments earlier. So for me, that need of the head is really what made the difference in that round and why it should have gone to Hanson. But I don't know, for whatever reason, the judges, I guess they thought those, yeah, those little punches in the ground at the end did more. They were certainly counted in total strikes. I'm pretty, they were not to do against strikes. So, yeah, that's why I disagree.

But again, like we kind of just reasoned, you can kind of. why it happened. So sorry, people, you will not be seeing a robbery review this week. We'll have a very special robbery review. I will have a very special robbery review on Monday for people, retro ones. So I look forward to that. But no, I think we kind of fought a great fight and Hanson fought a great fight as well. And I don't think either way it could have been too wrong recall. More important, more important. Who's going to watch Chick Fight the movie now? It never came up again, right? The graphic never came up again. I don't know. That was so...

Yeah, because they blew it and introduced it during the women's fight. It was so weird. And it said chick bite the whole time. I was like, oh. That was awkward. And they didn't mention, they didn't run the promo for the movie until after, right? If they'd run it before... Not only did they wait, not only did they wait to run until after when they were waiting for the judge's scorecards and they're both standing in there, just beat up and bloody.

In the middle, and you know how it says their name's the bottom? Yeah, yeah. In the middle of it, you know how it usually says like, like corn nuts or bombs or... energy. It was like decision. Chick fight. So if you just turned tuned in, you were probably under the assumption that the UFC was reminding you that two girls just found. Yeah. And it's this gody

like pink like like a rectangle graphic and neon page. It's like one of those movies you order at the grocery store in the red box. You know, it's like Leslie Smith was not impressed. She was all over it and she wasn't wrong. Well, I thought, I thought, I thought it was somewhat innocuous to him like, okay, as long as it comes back

through the rest of the night as long as it's sponsoring all the fights then fine it never came up again whoops that was whoops yeah i i had a friend watching watching the fights and she and she doesn't watch fights and i was just like i apologize i would just like i apologize on behalf of ms on behalf of the chick-flight film men in general the human species i just like my bad my bad so much disappointment so much disappointment all right I scored, I scored that fight 30, 27 for Hanson. I know you did. And you were demanding, you were yelling at me on Slack,

demanding a robbery of you. And I said, no. I said no. The judges cost me a perfect fight card again. Yeah, that's totally, and again. Second week in a row. I do think Hansen won.

I do think Hansen won. I do think Hansen won, when being honest. But, well, you should really blame Tanner Bowzer. You don't, you don't, you got to pick who you think is going to play. Like, if, if, if I see two, fight if I see a fighter I know like if I see anyone fight Dennis Bermudez I'm like Dennis Bermudas is probably going to win but he's going to lose in the end because that's just he loses every single split decision you know so if I see Dennis

he's going to lose a split decision so that's how you got to don't don't pick who you think he's going to win an actual fist fight because this is in pride this is the UFC and split decisions never go to the right person unless your name is hafield Osanos no Mike you've got to be like you've got to be like me and just never even come close to getting a perfect card that's the problem. It's hurting you too much because you're off by one.

When you're off by like three or four every week, you don't care. You're breezy. You were the new Guillermo. My son was like coming up and down watching like a lot of the fights with me. And at the end, I was like, so what was like your favorite part?

What was stuck out to you? And he goes, goes the yellow haired girl had her hair in her face. She needs to get a haircut or something. Not wrong. The pink scrungy. I've never seen. I've never seen.

a fighter at this level not braid their hair or anything i can't i was like is she just fighting in a ponytail i was like all right she yeah she is the one thing he noticed that of everything tonight was that her hair is in her face chan hick hanson mckenna are our talents though like how messed up it is it that they they look more advanced than uh grainger and yoder uh with respect to granger and yoder if you told if you asked me who who's been fighting for whatever oh yeah for i don't know like four years or who has you know twice in my experiences two girls uh i would have thought it was the other way around I would have thought that Hanson and McKenna were the more experienced fighters. So very impressive from those two.

I hope they get some sort of bonus. Unfortunately for Yoder Granger, there's always that one fight on the card. You got to go, why is that so high on the card? It wasn't. It's not their fault that. No, that was one of the cards that was. No, no, you can't blame them. I don't blame them.

I don't mean, I'm just, you know, we can't blame them. But I just, I was just one. Like, what did the, I don't know. Let's talk about the other chick fight. Well, we know there's a lot. I knew. Canaco Marada fan number one. Hell yeah, dude.

Casey after you. Wrestling. I am just extremely bummed out that Kanako just looked so normal. Because I don't know if you've seen her on Risen. She has a big colorful outfits. She wears a singlet. And she just kind of looked like she was just, I don't know,

like whatever that fell off the Reebok rack. That's what she was wearing. So I was just bummed. We didn't get to see her very unique personality. but that's what the UFC does that's the UFC does drains the color drains the color drains the fire right out of a fighter's personality right

I'm just excited to see another got a good wrestler in the strawweight division and I'm worried about her size though she is she is a small straw weight that's always going to be a bummer but yeah she got her and her little Hulk arms I was just a great great job by her

that was a like her back muscles when she was going for take down oh my god yeah I was like she is up She's a beast. Match her up with Tisha Torres at some point. You want to battle the battle the of the physiques. My goodness. But she looked good. And I think Rhonda Marcos really even though it was originally scheduled opponent, uh, was a really good test for her. I mean, she was dumping some things down. She was, you know,

to, uh, battle on some scrambles and really kind of show up her like strength. Like some of those scrambles, she just walked through brute force, you know? Just it was like they would be kind of locked the position for like a second and you just see Morale just flex and just like, all right, now I'm on top. I'm taking control. So, um, yeah, she was a was as advertised as far as being an elite wrestler, a really high-level athlete, tough as nails. And Marcos, I said on like the previous show, I feel like a loss gets her release, even though she took this on short notice and did the OEC of favor. I kind of still feel that way.

I really do. I don't know how they're going to go with it. They shouldn't. Obviously, they shouldn't. I know. Obviously, they shouldn't. But I do feel like the UFC's going this direction where we're seeing, you know, a lot more young talent being utilized, young cheaper talent being utilized.

So keeping around a veteran like Marcos, who I know she's not exactly making, you know, six figures of fight or whatever, but, you know, if it's a choice between paying her or paying a contender series winner or something like that, someone's going to get cut.

And we've seen they've been making some cuts recently. She's a veteran. I think they like her. I just wonder if maybe this was their sign. She now lost three straight for the first time in the UFC where they say maybe they're going to cut ties. I hope not, of course,

I hope not. I hope Marcos, I guess another shot. And I think she also took the fight on to her notice. I think the last, three fights she's taking on short notice. Miranda Granger versus Random Marcos loser leaves town. That's what I was trying to say.

We're good. Miranda Granger's got a win in the UFC. What? Miranda Granger's one and one in the UFC. That was her first UFC loss. Can't do her like. Miranda Granger? She's on a two-far lea- She lost to amend the Lemos.

She lost two in a row. She has lost two in a row. That is not two. Oh, yeah, you're right. The Hannah Goldie fight was the first one that she won. Yeah. That's right. It's a Lemos. I thought all of our fights up until that point just kept getting canceled.

So there you go. Okay, maybe you're right. Maybe you're right. So what do we do? There you go. So what do we do? Marada versus Yoder now? We just like mix and match the two.

Marroto is way higher than Yoder. I think you get Marado some marato. There's like there's like the problem is she's so good. And the diehards know how good she is. And there's so many fights I want to see her take, but she's not going to get them yet just because she's so new. So she's going to have to work her way up to these fights that I really want to see.

Like, I would love to see her fight Dern, but that's not going to happen anytime soon. She has to work the way up there. So I don't know off the top of my head, who she could fight next. I know what I'm going to see him. I don't care. I think she's ready. I want to see her versus Asparza. I love a wrestler versus wrestler.

Oh my gosh. Yeah, that's a good fight too. To Invicted champ. Respect the belt. Oh, yeah, Felice Herring. You're right. Felice Harrog would be a good one because she seems to get the, like, we're going to see how these prospects are going to do.

And police Harrog is Carlos Spars' best friend. So she beats Felice Herrick. Not only do you have a wrestler versus wrestler, you got a storyline. And that's what we want. Hey, boo, boo. Boom. Did your job spoil you? I want to point out how crazy it is that Yoder almost had the first.

She had the first 3024, I think, in UFC, Straway history against Siri. And then almost had the first 27, 26 today before. Well, I mean, technically did have the first 2726 before. Thankfully, that mix up was, you know, people are saying, what are you talking about? That was the score. That was originally the announced. That's what they incorrectly announced.

Oh, I didn't even listen to the score. Sorry. Okay. 30, 26, Yoder, 29, 27 Yoder, and then 27-26 Yoder, which was bizarre. So people are saying it had to be Bruce Buffer's fault, but I mean, he doesn't add up the scores. Like on the spot and it could just be he had a total brain fart like it did but how many times is he doesn't it Yeah Bruce Buffer is normally a pro where I think it was was it the Woodley Thompson fight maybe where

They had like the first one where they had like incorrectly had a decision he looked at it and he brought it back to the judges table and be like this is wrong So like I think they were going to announce that wouldley was the champ and then he's like no this is a majority draw like no fix that so I think buffer is a pro I don't think if he did make a mistake, it was complete, like, on the fly accident. Yeah, I feel like so. I don't think he did this. Based on what we saw from the judges today, based on what we saw from the judges today, I feel like one of the judges wrote down the wrong score. I'm just saying, I feel like somehow, maybe their handwriting was a little shaky.

I'm not sure, but 2726 would be a huge mistake. But good job, Ashley Oter for making history. First 3024 and first 27, 26 in the Strauby. UFC Straub Division. A lot of math-making ideas tonight. Ryan wants to see Sean Strickland versus. Edmund Shabazzian. It's spoiling our show.

I can't answer these questions right now. I can't answer. Legally, we cannot answer these questions right now. We signed a contract that we have to save our predictions. We've already breached it several times tonight. We're in trouble. We are, Mike, we're in trouble.

I know. We can't get them all away. I would say, what, in the top 15 already, top 11? He was strictly. He was in top 10, got whipped up by Brunson. Right? Yeah.

Right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hmm. He's been kind of radio-sighted since then. Yeah, well, he's been doing a lot with the Armenian or going on right now. He's been kind of marching a lot. Who did, who did Bevin Lewis just lose to? Traven Giles. That's, make that fight.

Giles versus Strickland. Because Shabazzian's in the top 11. I don't think he wants to fight anyone outside the top 15 right now. And Ian Hyland is sitting there at 15. So I don't think that's, I don't think that form. is enough to get Strickland in the top of the team. Yeah, I'll be honest, not only to Shriczim, like I say, he actually has a ranking.

I think Strickland is too much for him, right? From what I've seen from Strickland in the last two fights, I think Strickland's too much for him. Strickland has looked incredible. And I would remind people he is technically four and O competing higher than welterweight. I mean, I would consider tonight, I would consider tonight essentially a middleweight bout.

How Strickland look better than Shabazian? Well, what's, remember Shabazzian? Israel out of society. sign and fought Brad Tavares to a five-round dominant decision to Edmond and Shabazzian put him away in less than three minutes. And even Strickland's last opponent, I forget his name already. The guy he was young at the fall. Like Jack Mark, Jack Marsman?

He whooped up. Yeah, Shabazian beat him like in two minutes. In like two minutes, he beat him. So you're crazy, AK. This is, this is some, yeah. And he's just gotten better. Come on, man. He got better. He was a, he was literally a fetus in that fight. He's a grown man now. Look,

Strickland, I don't know what his grappling is like. Maybe he could have taken Marshman down, submit him. I'm not going to take anything away for Shabazzian either because he did it. It sounds like he did already. No, I'm not, but I'm just saying the three round, the three round of beating that Strickland put on, put on Marshman was not much less impressive. He whooped his ass. He beat, he just couldn't finish him. But, I mean, maybe Marshman's really tough to finish with the striking.

I don't know. Marshman also missed Chabazzman. Marshman also missed weight in that. Marshman also missed weight going into that fight. so I don't like who knows what his weight cut situation was entering that fight. But he didn't get put away. And he got he got tapped by Shabazzian in less than two minutes. I think Strickland is real tough.

He's going to be. He's going to matchwick for right now. He's really tough. He's obviously very good. He's obviously very good. He's done with breaking him. Who's his last two loss to? Was it?

Dos Santos and Usman? Like he's unbelievable. I just don't think he's going to toss him to Shabazzian and favor him right away. At a way class he's only two and O'clock. He's done with wealth. Well, I'd say four and out, counting this one as a middleweight. I count this as a middleweight route. So he's four and O.

It's up to him. He twice previously fought a middleweight. But he, he's probably can't go to 170. He looks huge. He's huge. I don't think he should try. Yeah. He's done.

I think he's right. I think he's right. Brandon Allen, in my opinion, was like number 16 or 17 in that division heading into Yeah, I agree. I agree. So, I mean, you have to, you have to give him a top 15 guy at some point. So not to spoil the party or anything, but, Whoa, whoa.

I think the most... A contract. I'm just gonna say it. I'm just gonna say it. I'm just gonna say it. I will mute you. I will meet you. I have the power.

The guy's coming off the loss, unfortunately, but I still believe he's in the top 15. Omari Akmanoff. I think that's the fight to make. Sure. For Sean Strickland? Yeah, that's the fight. Cool.

Why not? Unless you give you Chris Wyden. I mean, those are literally the only two options. Or Uriah Hall. And Uriah Hall probably deserve something people. People please tune in to wasn't. Who wasn't Akmanov just spoke to fight? Wasn't

Akmanov just supposed to fight Vittori before catching COVID or something like that? Or was it COVID? So why wouldn't they just rebook Akmanov and Vito? Or who's Vittanyahu fighting now? Jacare. Why? Mikeman? Jokre. Sorry. Okay. Why doesn't have a fight, right?

Yeah, Wyman does not have a fight. Yeah. Actually, I want to answer. I don't actually know the answer of this. If someone can catch me up on the news. All right. What happened to Kenyones versus Smolka and Anders versus Ahoyo? I know more about the Smolka situation. Smoka got sick.

He got sick today. Some nausea, some vomiting. He just couldn't fight. He missed weight, correct on Friday, too. He missed weight by three pounds. Anders missed weight by one and a half pounds. So both fighters missed weight and both were the reasons that their fight fell through. as Mike mentioned illness for Smoka.

And Anders actually was hospitalized. I don't know if Smoke also went to the hospital, but Anders had to go to the hospital. He sent on a message after he said he's fine, but it sounds like it has something to you with, of course, a tough weight cut. So yeah, Smoke a possible as well or possibly Smoka had an illness

and why he couldn't make weight. That I would find believable because he shouldn't have problems making 135. He used to compete at flyweight, has never had problems making 135 in the past. So I would think that's more of the illness first. and that's why he couldn't make it. And there's, I think, maybe the other way around.

But I'm not sure. It could be an excuse for both guys. But yeah, so that's what happened there. One guy, illness, one guy hospitalized. And we also had a fight, Safarov and who is Saffarov supposed to fight? Safarov and my brain is broken. Did we, we, were three fights? Why did I bring this up?

Were three fights lost the week of? Marquez. Marquez was supposed to finally get a fight for these two years. And Safraub had weight management issues, according to the other. C. So that's three fights that were canceled, possibly due to weight cutting issues in the last 48 hours. So extreme weight cutting. It sucks.

And like, and like, weren't all these fights outside the main event, essentially short notice fights, I feel like. I assume it's, I give him two months is a rather, yeah. No. No. I mean, some. Like, Eric Anders was a replacement. Yeah, so short notice. So, yeah.

He was a short notice replacement. Yeah, probably three weeks. Casey, I was kind of joking about this with you before, earlier this week. Like, there's almost no fighters that were going into this card coming off a win. Marada, I think you said. Marada was like the only one. And I thought like, oh, probably someone else besides Marada.

And I was going to know. There are a couple. Hey, Hanson. Who else? Brandon Allen. She had bit, correct. Hansen. Brandon Allen, yeah.

McKenna as well had won on a contender series. Oh, Strickland, of course. Strickland. When Strickon came in, he was last second, too. I'm talking like originally booked. Oh, I was like, it's like four people.

Yeah, because Al Hassan, oh, chaos as well. So like four or five fighters, um, on a 20, on a 20,

with 20 fighters who ended up, oh no, only 18 ended up fighting. But that's not, that's, it's not all about wins and losses, but that sounds a weird message to fans, doesn't it?

Even the main event was two guys coming off losses. These are, these are, these are fight nights. That's how it is. You know, these are free. Ain't paying for this.

Yeah. Gotta keep that train moving. Yeah. We're supposed to get, what other fights are supposed to get? Benitez versus Justin James were supposed to get. Brian Barbarina versus Daniel Rodriguez

is supposed to be on this card too. Barbarina had emergency surgery. So Rodriguez is going to fight next week now instead. There were eight changes to this card according to topology. Eight changes and they're only up being nine fights. So that's what happens. The UFC books 15 fights and every once in a while

we have a 15 fight card. But I think and then that's when this whole pandemic cards started happening. I wanted the UFC to be much more lenient on more catchweight fights more just because of crap like this. Because now we have dudes in the hospital. This is just stupid. It's just stupid.

Strickland Allen was perfect. It's perfect. Of course. $195. Yes. Why is there any? I saw at least one or two comments popular on me on Twitter like, oh, too bad this doesn't really count.

Strickland like as a middleweight fight because it was a catcher. I'm like, why? Why does it not count? It's two guys who are middleweights. Who cares? And then someone else said, well, As long as they're not ranked, I guess, I don't care. And I'm like, why does it matter?

Weight classes are Fugazi. All right, they're Fugazi, Fagazi, okay? I'm sorry, it's, I'm not saying that I'm out. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, what was that? Say it again again. It's like, what's that? Matthew O'Connoran and Wolf of Wall Street? It's like, it's crazy.

But it's, yes, of course they matter. I'm being overly flippant here. They matter, you know, because if we didn't have weight classes, then we'd have, you know, we'd have chaos. But as far as, like, if two lightweights want to fight at 160 or 165, it's not going to change things in the long run. It's not that different. And if they meet it 155, especially, I shouldn't say it's not that different.

It's literally no different unless you're worried about, oh, what, these guys, if they're going to contend someday, they have to be able to make 155 on the dot. But that's a whole separate issue. And if you just want to see fights happen and you want to see fighters at their best, people, you should encourage as many catch weights as possible. Please, tweet, tell Dana why you want more catch weights. Yes. I'll listen to everybody.

He does. So, especially to us in the media. He does. Yeah. He loves on to the next one. He loves when we suggest that. Obviously, based on something that's just. They love our Bannam White Picks. Damn, a little hat tip would be nice.

Well, hat tip would be nice, boys, but it's fine. All right. What else we got? We guys are lively in the chat for such a lackluster card. Lively. Have we talked plenty about RDA? We got a lot of RDAs. They all stayed up to watch Crawford.

box and they're watching us waiting for a press conference from the UFC probably. That's what the fight. That's right this UFC card ends so quickly because they had an ESPN boxing. Oh, that's what happened. Okay. Yeah, that's the paper view. It's why it's why. It's why Ortega zombie ended so early because they wanted to get

Lomachenko in there. Man, God, I love ones. It's so awesome. Look at MMA still still playing second fiddle of boxing. I think it's an ESPN thing. Oh, yeah. If you're already complex. Yeah. I see a little, some people asking is there a press conference? I don't think there's a press conference.

It doesn't sound like it. I don't know. Really? I'm, unfortunately I'm not there. I think Felder's doing post-fight show stuff now, but not a press conference. I think he's doing like ESPN plus.

I will text and find out. Whoever loses does it sometimes. What was that question? Oh, who do you think Islam Makachev should fight next from Sam R? We said earlier, just rebook RDA, right? Well, is that the fight that makes? assuming Marka Jeff is ready to go you know in a normal amount of time

you know say he's he's normal he can he can he can take another fight in two months which our day would be good for is that do we want to run that back is that really the fight to make now or is we kind of so hold on

quick quick update no Dana White apparently probably just already I text someone on the scene but we don't have no feed if people are waiting for us to put the feet up we don't have it Yeah, it's not going to happen. Just keep waiting.

Just chill with us. Chill with us, pretty babies. Just show with us on here. Come on. We'll tell you the good stuff. What did you just say? What did you just say, AK? I said, chill with us, pretty babies.

Chill with us in the chat. We'll take care of you. You're the man, AK. Keep going. Oh, thank you. That's so. Keep talking. A.K.

A.K. A.K. K. A.K. Keep talking. Toast a chill. It's not Mockachev. Be cool, baby.

Islam Makachev. I can't remember what we said last week on our show, Mike, but I think Alexander Hernandez is an option. Like I said, RDA, I think it's a good option. Hernandez is the one. Hernandez is the one considering they were supposed to fight in Brooklyn

already. Sure. I know, I know from your what the heck interview with Hernandez, he wants one more in before we fight to fight Tiago Moises. I don't think Islam is going to fight before the end of the year, and I have a feeling Hernandez would rather fight Islam Machiv and Tiago Moises

anyway. Oh. So I think that would be the fight that I would want to see. Considering they were already matched up to begin with. Yeah, I don't know. Of course, if Islam if they want to give him a bigger match up, sure, like Islam deserves it. But if he just goes, forget, I'll just

fight whoever I want to get in there. I haven't fought in more than a year. So be it. But other than that, the RDA fight wouldn't bother me. I don't. He's got so many options right now, though. He's got so, like, so there's, uh, uh, Drew Dober, who needs an opponent. Then you have Diego Faheda, who is ready to step in and fight RDA.

So there's an option. There's Benil Darius. There's an option. So he's got, I mean, he's got top 15 options with guys who don't have fights right now. Yeah, it sucks that this happened for, for Machachab that he missed on in this fight, a very winnable fight for him, very winnable high profile fight. But yeah, he's not lacking for options. He'll bounce back.

I don't think the lacking options is the issue. I think is who is going to accept. except a fight with him. I think RDA was in a position since he was at Walter Wright for so long that he kind of needed that Mockachev fight to get a main event. But like these other guys,

are they going to take, are they going to, because to me he seems like one of the hardest guys to match up with, as far as from the matchmakers, like a guy like, oh, I'll fight him because it's going to be advantageous

to my career if I beat him. But he, what's, is this I'm even ranked? He's like one of the guys that's super good, but not ranked, right? No,

I think he's 12, 11. Okay, but, And then, you know, what's... Islamakov is 12. The only people below him are cowboy, Dober, Gillespie, and then Darius, Kevin Lee, Ayakinta, Faheda, are the only ones above him that don't have a fight matched up. Charles Olivares sitting at 6.

And he just... And then Felder's at 7. I think unfortunately, from Marksjev, he's going to have to fight another guy probably behind him, most likely just have to get a big win. I think he's just, unfortunately... that main event kind of status that he was going to get isn't going to happen again he's in the same position habib was a few years ago yeah pretty much just hard like like he signed two contracts to fight for the ufc championship against the alvarez he ends up fighting michael johnson

like it's just it's hard to matchmake him right now yeah dober it's gonna have to really interesting it would you're going to have to get someone like remember when um bence was it benson when he fuck, Kabilov, he thought he was signing to fight Habib. So he's like, whatever, I just signed to fight Habib. And then Dosano's asked for Habib. I know there was like the Tulsa and New Mexico cars. I always get them all confused. He's going to need someone like that that's just like, I'm not going, I'm not fighting

for the title anytime soon. So I'll just fight a big name. And Islam has a big name. Islam is a big name. He's Habib's guy. Habiz obviously going to bring up a lot of eyeballs. You're going to, he's going to have to get someone that's like, fuck it. I'll fight him to get any sort of big name right now.

Oh my goodness. I was a young. He's after dark. Now I have to put the explicit thing on the podcast network. Oh, great. Thanks. You're welcome.

Kids shouldn't be listening. Kids shouldn't be listening to anything where A.K. saying stay with us pretty babies. You know what? You know what fun I'd really like to see? Yeah, there's a whole other category for that that we need to check off for that talk. I know. I think he's been out with injury for a while, right?

But I'd love to see Islam. and Gillespie. That would be fun. You're pretty eyes. Okay. Uh-huh. Kevin Lee would be, Kevin Lee,

I think Kevin Lee would be a fun fight too, because you remember when Kevin Lee was going to fight, when he beat Gillespie backstage case when we were in Madison Square Guard, and someone asked him, when you fight someone brought up fighting Kevin Lee, uh, fighting Islam to Kevin Lee because Kevin Lee was on this run where he wants to fight everyone in their backyard.

Like he's like, I want to fight Gillespie. York. I want to fight Charles Charles Oliver in Brazil. And someone goes, would you fight Islam? He goes, would it be in Russia? And they're like, probably not. He goes, nah. I mean, I want that fight, but only in Russia. I think Kevin Lee has been

calling Habib out for so long that he might view it as a way to get his name on, he's not going to fight Habib, but obviously he can piggyback off of Habib's fans and just act a fool like he normally does. So I bet Kevin Lee, Islam could be a possible fight too. I was thinking I was saying Islam

get lesbian. I love. I love. I Either one. Either one. But Gillespie hasn't fought since getting his head decapitated by Kevin Lee. So if he wants the guy that's above him, Kevin Lee is sitting at 10, Islam sitting at 12. I think that's fun fight too. Did they pull Gillespie from the rankings? Has it been that long?

Is he just... I wonder. He was top 10. He was in... Okay. He wanted the Habeep fight. He wanted the Habeep fight or at least was working towards the Bifite. He's certainly the guy who people said, oh, would be a good stylist to measure for Habeb.

That fight obviously is probably never going to happen now. so Islam would really be the next best thing. Yeah, Kevin Lee's got so, I think he had like one ACL tear, and then as he was repairing that one, he tore the other ACL, something crazy like that. Ward business, why not, why not Shemayev and chaos, fireworks? We just talked about this kind of, yeah, that's come up. Yeah, we talked. I mean, listen, if for some reason, Leon Edwards cannot make it because of the second wave of COVID,

and he can't get out of the UK, and you need to. someone to fill in. I don't know if it's like, I mean, Shamiyaf is the main event. Like Shemayev's the A side of any of these conversations. I mean, just the way that it is right now. So sure, why not? Is Chaos Williams all hype? I don't think he'll have the star power like Hamza at Shemayev. I don't think he's all. Look at the guy he's beat. I don't think he's all hype at all. I mean, Alex Marano is no joke. And he knocked him on 27 seconds. And then Abdul Razak al-Hassin is no joke either. He's a guy who typically finishes his fights in the first round.

He knocks out him in 30 seconds. Remember he did Nico Price? I think this, I think Chaos Williams is really talented. And I think his next fight is going to be the answer we all need. Because let's not forget, Alex Marono did a whole fight camp preparing for Diego Lima before the last minute switch route to Chaos Williams, who was making his UC debut. If I'm not mistaken, so I can't imagine Alex Marona had any sort of time to prepare or get ready or had any idea that. Chaos Williams hit that hard. And then Abdul Razak was coming off a loss

and he probably just wanted to go in guns. And he goes in guns blazing anyway. He plays right into Chaos Williams's hands. I really think whoever Chaos Williams fights next is going to show if Chaos Williams is the real deal or not. Because right now he looks like the real deal, but like me, I still have questions, which means probably a few other people have questions.

I think to me the issue is, Chaos Williams isn't sitting at a table next to Dana White watching fights. That's all it is. If Dana was just like, Chaos Williams, oh my God,

I'm going to get his name tattooed to my forehead. He's so good. If he was treating chaos the same way he was treating Shimaa. Homs up. Yeah, we would be talking about him.

But I don't think Dana has even mentioned his name, ever. He shook his hand at the end, but that's about it. Yeah, and he said that was one of the most vicious knockouts I've ever seen in my bleeping life. That's what he said to him.

You come to the press comment. Do you say that, man? Someone in the chat says, Chaos versus Rockmanoff. And I'm like, I really like that fight, but I don't think it's the time, the time,

I don't think it's the time right now. No, that's like, yeah. And that's, that's even more puzzling, because Rockmanoff is like, I mean, he beat, he submitted Alex Oliverer in the first round. That is more impressive

than anything Hamza Atchamai if we're being honest. Like, the Mir Sharanaako is just, ridiculous. It was laughable. Like, you're just like, wow. I like, that is just unbelievable. Like, no one could have expected that to happen. But to submit Alex Oliver, who missed weight in his UFC debut on short notice like that in the first round,

that was probably the most impressive win of all of them, if we're being honest here. So no hype for Rock. I want to address the chaos. Sorry, guys. I was, I was, this whole time I've been looking for a picture of Chaos Williams in the suit he was wearing afterwards. because, no, we're talking about star power. Casey, I just sent you a tweet from our good friend, Jessica Crystal Crew, which has a couple of images.

So I don't know if we can get that up there at some point. But he looked fresh. He had a, what, what do they say when someone's like redressing really? I wouldn't know because I've never done it. But when someone just really well, they got that drip, right? So he looked, he certainly looked like a star afterwards. He's certainly dressing like a professional, which, You know, not a lot of fighters can say they do when they're just two UFC fights into their career.

I just looked out a list. I looked up a list. I looked up this list of welterweights on the ranking M.M.A. site. Chaos Williams is sitting at 44 of like the top 50 welterweights right now. There's a few names around him that I wouldn't mind actually. I hadn't even thought about it. Like Dago Lima, Lyman Good, Max Griffin, who I literally just saw another name that I would be like

I was, O'Brien Barbaran is sitting right underneath him. So there's a lot of great welter weights. I just don't know if you, but these are all names that are going to test it. And I think for me personally, I have questions about him, just how good he actually is,

which means I'm sure other people still do. I think he's awesome. This next fight is going to answer a lot of questions. Randy Brown is in that, should be in that conversation too, I think. There's a lot of fun fights for him. Give him Diego Sanchez. Sure.

Why do you fly? No, no, no, no, no, no. And Diego's going to fight. How dare you? How dare you? Who'd be Matt Brown? Who beat Matt Brown in Texas? Miguel Baez.

Oh, man. Sign me up, man. He's fighting. That's right. Oh, that's right. That's right. And I just got to say that that punch that Williams landed was spectacular. The way he split, like he anticipated that leg kick.

Actually, like, how do you say his opponent's name? Al-Hassan. Al-Hasson. like he didn't really make any technical errors like he just he just split that guard and just him right on the chin just an incredible punch just an incredible punch incredible punch incredible timing what what about like jake what about jac matthews the guy that beaked diego sanchise don't mind that yeah don't mind that yeah does uh does the leach have a fight is he find dwight grant or am i imagining that he is he was scheduled to fight dwight grant i believe uh not got to leave right leach leach leech leech leech leet leet lees lees lees lees lees he Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. One of that. There's a lot of fights for him to take.

Yeah, sure. I think Jake Matthews, I wonder would probably want to fight someone with a little more of a name at this point. I don't think he should. I don't think he should, I don't think he should object to that matchup if it comes along, but he probably wants more of a name.

But yeah, I mean, look, back to Sandy Pham's original question. No, no, he's definitely not all hype. Will he have the power of Kamsa? I don't know. I would love to see that fight happen for sure because I've been, look, I've been number one on the, we're pushing Kamsat too fast train.

I think everyone knows this, But obviously there's no stopping it now. Like you guys mentioned, he's chummy with Dana White. He's been saying all the right things. He's traveling. He's wheeling and dealing. And now he's going to fight with Leon Edwards. So, yeah, there's really no stopping it now.

Maybe if he loses that fight, they dial it back. Somehow I doubt it. That's just not really how the UFC works. I'm not sensible like that. And frankly, Edwards is a fight he can win. I don't know if I would pick him, but it's certainly a win. We'll fight for him. Our good friend, Farah, Hanoun, is all aboard the Chaos Williams versus

Mania Lizette's train. Oh, I'm about by that. I am about it. That's that. If I have to pick, that was my initial answer. Like, that's the fun I want to see overall. I think it would test both men. The timing,

the timing for both guys is completely different. Like, chaos got in on a pay-per-view in front of a capacity crowd in Houston. With space, because, like, I mean, I think some people knew, like, this pandemic could create some chaos. Most people didn't buy into it. And then Hamza jumps on Fight Island in this unique, crazy circumstance and gets a quick finish in a dominant fashion. Like if Chaos Williams fought Alex Marano in July on Fight Island, he might be in a totally

different position right now. He might have fought two weeks later and got another knockout. And then we're talking about Chaos Williams instead. So just, you know, it was a reintroduction, so to speak. But if you're Chaos Williams, you want to get your ass back in that octagon ASAP. Like if something comes up, they call you and say, hey, we got a 170 fight on December 5th or December 12th or December 19th, you best believe you're signing that contract. and you're closing out the year in a big way.

Like you have to do it. That's why if for some reason, like if they offer him Bilal, you jump on that thing with both feet. And even if you lose, great, you're still, you got some momentum. You're taking a risky fight against a guy

who probably should be in the top 15 with Balal Mohammed. So he needs to get back. He needs to get one more and at the end of the years what I'm trying to say. The Belal fight makes the most thing. Check well that and a thought. Yeah, that'd be, I mean, it's perfect.

Blal needs an opponent. Chaos got some, jump on it. Oh, Jessica. Hi, guys. Okay, so maybe he didn't win, but I told you all Paul wouldn't get finished. Who said Paul did he get through that?

Jose and Casey. She told you guys. Yeah, I said it. I said my exact phrasing was, if there's going to be a finish, it'll probably come on the later rounds. And I would assume Hafeeld Los Angeles gets some sort of arm choke

like he normally does, like the Magny and the Kevin Lee thing. My pick wasn't Paul Felder gets finished. I said, if there's going to be a finish, this is the most logical path to a finish that was still kind of friendly jessica i think she was on twitter and said uh she had cracked open an alcoholic beverage so watch out be be forewarned we're getting some of that pretty nice that was so a pretty nice comment she at least said hi guys first before trying to rip us what's up dog but no mike and i had both said uh mike and i had definitely both said

decision uh we have the topology uh picks graphic to prove it yeah always flashed out as evidence i said i said a pooh snooose fest decision win for RDA, so I win. Oh, wow. That one fight of the night, brother. No, I really think that, I really thought the McKenna Hansen fight was a little bit better. It was just really great to see. I mean, you just, Felder's effort was just incredible.

You know, it was hard to ignore the storyline, right? If you knew the storyline, it was definitely hard to look past that and not factor that into the action. Well, how about the fact that the UFC led a 12-year-old fight? and McKenna oh my god she's she's 21 years old but my goodness uh yeah yeah and her post my my interview i was like good lord she looked so young yeah uh McKenna you know mechana was way better than i thought she was gonna be like i thought McInna had like a lot of talent and i thought like it would take her some time to get there but man she she she impressed me tonight like she's yeah she's somebody you're really excited about no doubt about it

she got in a lot of precarious she was in a lot of precarious situations that I know a lot of the narrative with Hansen was like, I'm not, I'm, I'm a veteran in this game at 21. McKenna was in a lot of precarious situations that a lot of people a lot older than her and a lot more experience probably would have fallen to. So, yeah, I was, I was way off on McKenna. I called this a showcase fight for Hanson, the preview show. I was like, oh, this is just, yeah. I was going through Twitter and, like, she was getting in a lot of these, like, submissions. Like, she was stuck in submissions and all this, like, this grappling stuff.

And one of the, one of the, I can't remember who tweeted, one of the farages was like, because McKenna trains at Alpha Mail with Faber, because your eye Faber was in her corner. He's like, I feel like McKenna has been in all of these situations with everyone at AlphaMail. Like all the chokes are like, rear naked chokes and deatines and all these crazy things like, and they're all her size over at AlphaMail. So it's like I feel like she's been in a choke or two in Alpha Mail when she's been training. Okay. An important question hasn't been brought up.

What do we think of Paul Feller's mustache? I hope it stays. Great. 10 out of 10 good time. Outstanding. Yeah. If I had a mustache. And that's why you had the performance.

Yeah, that's why he got the performance. You know how? They can't have a mustache? Nope. No. No. No. Remember when Angela was on?

She's like, yeah, the Afro definitely absorbs some of the damage. I'm just saying. Mustache. I'm just saying. He looked like he should have played for the Red Sox in 1987. that's exactly when everyone when everyone was doing cocaine and acid and going on a pitching red oil can boy everywhere yeah yeah now that you mentioned it yes he looks exactly like

oil cam boy just going out there just seeing things that aren't there and still pitching gray games looking like jody reed out there shout out to oil cam boyd one time he stole my seeded at a Celtics game and i had to kindly remind him he had he did not want to hear it wow oh i'm glad somebody brought this up Thoughts of UFC 2505 fight card next Saturday. I think it's a real. Jose will be there.

Listen, here's what I want to say. And I think I spoke about this maybe last year or two weeks ago. I know when you see fly weights at the top of the card, you poop poo it a little bit. It's not Connor. It's not heavyweights. You know, it's, it's, it's don't. If you are a fan of the sport, like if this is like the first year you got into it because there's a pandemic. and you're looking at this pay-per-view

and you're like, I don't know any of these guys. Like, I don't care. You drop the money on this because the matchups are awesome. Like that title fight, Figuato versus Perez, is really, really good.

Valentina Shivchenko is one of the best fighters in the world, male or female. She should be made eventing this card, if we're being honest. There you go. She should be the main event. Yeah. She's fighting Jennifer Maya.

She's probably going to win. She's probably going to do something pretty ridiculous that we're going to be talking about after the fight on the post fight show. Probably get a million questions about it. Then you have Shogun Hua versus Paul Craig, which is just going to be barrels of fun. That's a fun fight.

You got K.L. Nguyen versus Cynthia Caledino. An important, a very important fight? Yeah. Mike Perry and Tim Means. I'll tell you, I'll tell you the fight I am most excited about this entire card. Brandon on Brandon. Brandon.

Brandon Moreno versus Brandon Royval is outstanding. The loser has to become the Loser changes his name to Brendan. Oh, wow. Wow. Those are high stakes. Those are very high stakes.

That will be the, that is the best fight on the card, in my opinion. Buckley's Buckley and Buckley and Buckley. Buckley Hill's Ninja. I guess Jordan Wright. Kyle Dawkes is back after that crazy fight with Brendan Allen. He took on like 48 hours notice and almost won. Jared Gooden makes his UFC debut against Alan Joban, the very handsome Alan Joe ban. Nicholas Dalby versus Daniel Rodriguez is on this card

It's a good car Daniel Rodriguez is low-key One of the most intimidating men I've ever met Like just how he carries himself and looks And then you speak to him And he's like the nicest cat in the world Let me let me get to tell you guys Antinana versus Ariani Lipski is on this card

Violence on the one Look I know they weren't going to bump Shogun Paul Craig for the main card That's fine Shogun's a veteran he deserves He's a name Mike Perry to Mains should not be on the main card They should have bumped that off. My pair shouldn't even be fighting.

Okay, screw this guy, first of all. He's a loser. But I would have put the Moreno Roy Val fight on the main card. I would have put me this a real, real flyweight showcase, which again, I know the words flyweight showcase to some fans and probably just some people in the UFC. Probably makes their skin just burn at the thought of it. But we got to get past this weird stereotype that I still see it. Like fly weights are boring. Some people still think women's strawweights are boring.

Which, again, we just saw a great fight between 221-year-olds today. like and and and we did we not say like Yorana Yatjachik and like Zhang Wei Lee was that not just the like the best fight of the year like what are we doing when we're we're we're criticizing either women's I mean general at the flyweight division which flyweight produces has to dude the best fights the year like people find the weirdest thing like people were complaining like pit bull winning like people call the people like MMA fans just like realize yeah go ahead what's the last like super memorable uh and it could be wrong it could have been last week and I've considered forgetting because my memory is terrible.

But like super memorable back and forth heavyweight fight. Am I forgetting some like really, really good back and forth heavyweight fight you had this year? Don't even talk about, talk about tonight's card. What was the most, what was the most forgettable fight on the whole freaking card? And you never, you never, you know what? I watched that and I go, you know what? I forgot about it. Let's go on.

You would never, you would never hear someone say, oh, we should get rid of heavy weights. You would never hear that. And I wouldn't say it. I say that. I don't know. No, I think it's a silly. I think it's a silly thing to say. And it's, but it's just as dumb to say this you're rid of

flyways. Okay. So I'm not, but I'm not speaking to our readers on our viewers right now, because our viewers right now, people who stick with us in these post-fight shows are usually pretty smart. So you guys, again, I think you always, always for watching. I know I'm not yelling at you guys. This is, tell your friends, tell your less educated friends, tell any Twitter trolls, people on social media you have to come across that say this crap. You can blame me. Okay, you can blame me for this take. But I'm so tired of people thinking heavyweight or light heavy weight is like better than straw weight, uh, uh, men's flyweight. Like, no, that is absurd. Okay. And I really wish that UFC would send a message next week. And yeah, look, I know a lot of hope wouldn't buy it. But four flyweight fights on the main card. Should have been four flyweight fights on the main card. I wish they would have bumped up Royvel or Brandon on Brent to the main card. I wish they would have moved. I wish they would have moved Shogun and Paul Craig to the December 19th and flipped Minal Cave to Pantosia to the main card. So it would have been three men's fly weights, two women's flyweights. And it would have been an actual flyweight showcase as a paper card.

To be, to be fair, Oh boy. The original plan was Manel Cape versus Asker-Askerov. That was in discussions. It was very close to being done. In fact, I think it was done at one point, but for some reason, Ascarov couldn't make it.

So Cape got bumped back to the Pantosia fight, but I know the Ascarat fight was very close to being done on this same card. So it just didn't happen. Either way, this card does look good. Yeah, about order aside, this card does look really good. Yeah.

I'll tell you one man who is completely, okay with it being on the prelims, Brandon Royval. And Brandon Royval was so fired up and happy about this that he said, he even said, quote, no one's going to watch the freaking pay-per-view anyway. So me and Moreno technically are the main event.

That's what he said. And then he kind of caught himself. He goes, because I'm going to get fired now, but buy the pay-per-view, buy the paper-view, please. Way to sell your own weight division, Mr. Oval. A lot of guys say that. Also, let's also, just a reminder, I talked about it on A-Side, I believe,

I'm orbiting the links or one of the shows we've done. There's ESPN2 prelims, not ESPN. ESPN2. So people can't find it. That's where it is. Yeah, there's ESPN2 if you want to see Sweet, Sweet, Branden on Branden Action. You've got to go ESPN2.

Or I think it's, or I think, oh, is also on ESPN2. I don't like the way you say that, AK. What, sweet, sweet, sweet Brandon on Brandon Action? Yeah, I love it. Lewis. Is it the eye contact?

isn't from looking right of your eyes when I say it? Is that part of what bothers you? I don't know. Are we going back to Zoom? Oh, God. Sweet, sweet. Brandon on Brandon action. I feel like we should have the saxophone of careless whisper at the background if we do that.

We really going to have some of those boxes on the monetization section this time. It really hurt. It really hurt that Garbrens off the card because I get the casuals needed that. needed that name the guy they've seen before. And unfortunately, we, we know, we know Alex Perez is a badass,

but has he been on a, has he been on, has he been a featured fight ever? Like, a, for meka? Was that, no, that was a prelim, right? Yeah, I can't remember him being a main. He has never, he's never been a main or co-main. No.

Yeah. And the UFC's, and the US is going to wonder, oh, why are people not interested in him? It's like, you know, showcase him. He wasn't the main card. January 25th show, ESPN Plus show. Was that the Blades Dos Santos card? You're correct, sir.

I think he fought Espinosa. But then everyone else above him, I think, deserved to be above him. I think that was Cases RDA and Blades JDS. So, like, I get it. But they're not showcasing these guys. And then they wonder why there's no interest in them. Guys, you've got to promote. Like even Maya, we don't, we, no one giving Maya a chance,

but Maya got showcased because Maya, Maya was in a high profile fight against Joe Carterwood. So we kind of had this momentum going with Maya. Of Perez, it just feels weird Because he's an impeachment fighter. Looking at Alex Perez fought at UFC 220 on the early fight pass prelim, so one of the ones that

wasn't on FX at the time or the pay-per-view. He won. He beat Shorty Torres by Keo. The other two fighters that won on the early prelims, Zhang Wiley and Cheevera. And look where they are right now. Crazy. Alex Perez. And then everyone that won

on the prelim card, Alex Perez, I had still favor above above them. Like Pedro Munoz, Ricky Simone, Ricardo Homo, Shaman Mores, I would still put Alex Perez higher on the card than those guys right now. Alex Perez, the first

ever contender series fighter contract winner to earn a UFC title fight. Right. Yes. Right. That's good. That's huge. That's huge. That's what they should be selling. Dana White's like, everyone, go, look at this. All that crazy. That's a contender guy.

That's very much all the event. I think that's the only stunning point. Who could be the next Alex Perez on this week's episode of Contagasy? I, I, a little bit of, you know, on the Prince of Pository, but a little bit of skepticism here. Is there any chance that Shepchenko Maya is like an entertaining fight? There's really no nice way for me to ask this question. I don't expect. Like, do you think it's going to be like Carmoos, the Carmoos fight?

The 25 minutes of something? Boy, maybe not that bad because I think Maya at least has a specialty, which which you can try to sort of impose her will, but I just don't think it's especially that she can impose her will on against Shepchenko. I think it will be an exciting fight. I think it'll be one side of whooping. Oh, okay. I know Maya's been in some whatever fights, but she's also been in some really good fights, too.

Dude, Maya just rolled through Jojo. What was wrong if that? Like, no one's rolled through Jojo like that since maybe Jessica Androge, and we know how good she is. So, I mean, and I don't know if you saw it, but Maya versus Porto. when she won the Invicta belt was a great 25-minute fight. So when she's in the right matchup, she is very exciting for sure. That's what I don't think. That's the problem is.

But she's no different from Valentina in the sense. Valentina has been some crazy fun fights when she wins, but she's been to some super forgettable fights. Correct. The second Junio's fight as well. Yeah, there's, yeah. So, yeah. She's very dominant.

It's good card. I just want to get Casey fired up. Listen. Listen, and I know she made way for the, for the Calderwood fight. Jennifer May's weight is something, is a story heading into next Saturday's card. Don't get me excited. You know I love way and drama. You know I love way and drama.

Like, don't, get me started. They want to bring, they want to bring Lauren, Lauren Murphy has been discussed to be a potential alternate. I know that there's been conversation between the two. I don't know. I don't know. I know there's conversations between the two. But she should be ready. I mean, you do have Calvillo and you do have Chican, but I think Murph,

is ahead of both of them right now in terms of like who would get the shot. Murphy would probably take it too, but you'll hear more about that tomorrow on nabfighting.com when that interview drops solo. Do we have anything else? What do we got? I think we're good, gentlemen. I think we're good. We've gone hour and 25 minutes.

My goodness. Everyone who sticks around. You guys are the best. I don't care if I sound like a broken background and I say this every time I do one of these post-fight shows. You guys are the, you guys are the friggin best. I love you guys. He dropped the F.R. dash, dash, dash, dash, dash, dash word

at the end. Dropped a friggin. Sound like you're from Massachusetts kid. Oh, I know. Again, look, when we're seeing the monetization for this video. I don't like Philip Rivers. You guys are talking sports. I'm lost, actually. Yeah, no one has any of what's going on right now. Alex, you know who Philip Rivers is?

Of course. He was the quarterback for the charge. He still is? No. No, he's on the Indianapolis cults now. He was closer to you. Goodness, me. If you need to throw a ball 30 yards, he's not your guy.

But if you need a quick checkdown to a running back or a tight end for three yards, Philip Rivers is your guy. Hall of Famer. Phil Rivers. 100%. I'm not going to argue that. 100% of it. I've heard some people, I've heard some people say.

Maybe this is maybe I'm just a couple years. Those people are stupid. Look who's in the NFL Hall of thing. Anyone can make it. Well, I mean, the number. Okay, anyway, sorry, Mike, Mike Reinson. Wow.

Wait, what the head? Is there still San Diego Chargers? Are they still a team? Yeah. Oh, I'm sorry. No. The LA charges. Oh, yeah.

I live in LA. I had no idea. This is news. Wait, I thought the Rams. The Rams team? Casey, not only are they in L. Casey, they're not in L.A. What?

They're in Englewood. Right. Oh, I can see. I'm like, what? Oh, there they are. Look out your window. They're playing. game right now. They are. They're playing

and they're sharing the stadium with the Rams. I had no clue. I just thought there was a bunch of traffic outside for no reason. All right, this is all. Small world. Small world. The town you're living at the did you know the Raiders are in Las Vegas now? Why? What do you mean? Because they moved there. They moved. They're the Las Vegas Raiders.

They built a lot. Oh, that big that big turdy golden turd thing. Yeah. And the side of the freeway. No, no, no. The golden turd is the team over the arena. It looks awesome. It actually looks really cool. We have a comment, which I have to acknowledge, and this is going to start another half an hour discussion, by the way, Jeremiah K., professional chess better than the NFL. Shout out the Queens Gambit, Annia Taylor, what a show that.

Hey, I still got a couple episodes watching. I'm not spoiled nothing. No spoiler. No spoilers. I'm not saying it's my favorite show. It is a really good show. And anyone who has Netflix, there's no reason not to watch it, is what I'm saying. Check that out, the Queens Gambit.

If you love chess, which like, you like, you know, Jeremiah Kay in our comments, then go for it. See that chess board back there? If any you YouTube commenters want to challenge me, I got a board right there. We'll play. Don't come over here. I'm just joking.

You don't know where I live. Before we sign off, before we sign off on facts, my brother Miguel, my young brother Miguel is a ranked chess player in New England. He's unbelievable. I can end this on an MMA note. Wait, your brother's a ranked chess player?

In New England, yeah. He like travels to other states to play chess. and like gets money for it. And like gets money for it. Yeah. It's not exactly brain trust out there. So I mean, that can't be that hard.

Yeah. So, you know, the birthplace of America. How dare you? God. That explains a lot. How is that turning out?

MMA talk guys. MMA show. Come on. Oh, yeah. Did you see Angela Hill's connection to the show? Tell me more. You didn't see this.

Angela Hill. So Angela Hill, so there's two twins on the show. One of the brother. Oh, yeah. One of the actors who plays one of the brother. used to train at the same gym as Angela Hill. I think actually he knew her before she became a pro,

and she said on Twitter that actually he was someone who encouraged her to go into professional MMA. So there is an MMA connection to the Queens Gambit, apparently. One of the actors is a friend of Angela Hills, and it was a part of her career. And my connection to chess is I joined the chess club in high school because I needed an extracurricular activity because that's what my high school counselor told me

if I want to go to college. And look how you turned up. And now you're here in a virtual room with us and all of these people paid off for you, sir. Your chess skills led to greatness. And here we are. And there's the music. Oh, by the way, for those who want to... They're playing us off.

They're playing us off. For those who want to hear more from Chaos Williams, you'll be able to hear from him on Thursday. What the heck, he'll be there. Along with a couple of former UFC world champs as well. So the lineup is loading up in a fun and exciting way. So get ready for that. As UFC, Vegas 14, in the books for now, we'll be talking more about it.

Between the links, of course, on to the next one, which will probably drop in podcast form tomorrow. We're going to get those out early for all you wonderful folks, but that's it for Casey, A.K. Jose, I am Mike Eck. Good night, everybody. AK, wave, A.K.

Oh, yeah, I like that. I like it. That's good. Brandon on Brandon. Freak. You're listening to the Vox Media Podcast Network.