MMA Fighting - UFC Vegas 18 Post-Fight Show

Episode Date: February 7, 2021

With UFC Vegas 18 in the books, MMA Fighting’s Mike Heck, Jose Youngs, Alexander K. Lee and E. Casey Leydon break down the top storylines coming out of Saturday night’s event at the APEX, including Alexander Volkov’s second-round KO win over Alistair Overeem in the main event, as well as Cory Sandhagen’s knockout of the year frontrunner against Frankie Edgar in the co-main event. Follow Mike Heck: @MikeHeck_JR Follow José Youngs: @JoseYoungs Follow Alexander K. Lee: @AlexanderKLee Follow E. Casey Leydon: @ekc Subscribe: http://goo.gl/dYpsgH Check out our full video catalog: http://goo.gl/u8VvLi Visit our playlists: http://goo.gl/eFhsvM Like MMAF on Facebook: http://goo.gl/uhdg7Z Follow on Twitter: http://goo.gl/nOATUI Read More: http://www.mmafighting.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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And as you just saw, from Alexander Volkov, who finishes Alistair Overeem, Corey Sanhagen. If that's not the knockout of the year at the end of 2021, then we are in for something special. in this calendar year. But thanks for joining us. Hope you guys enjoyed the card. We're going to talk about it with all of you guys.

So get your questions, your thoughts about the card in the chat, and we will address them momentarily. I am Mike Heck being joined by Jose Youngs. Would you think of Volkov's tattoo? That thing is amazing, isn't it? Yeah, it's not my style of tattoos. Obviously, as everyone knows, I like all, like, the minimalistic, like, stickery tattoos

that just kind of randomly splashed their place on my arms. But my God, that is, it's just, like, well done. So 10 out of 10 execution, but it's not my style. But I got to show respect. I don't know who the artist is. If someone knows, tell me because I'd love to follow them on Instagram because that's some good stuff. And we're also being joined by the executive producer extraordinaire and Eminem's biggest fan, E. Casey Leiden. How you doing, buddy?

Moving on. Wait, was that Dana White in the video? because I was kind of watching like this and like, was that, was that Dana? Was that a fake Dana? In the video. I think that was a fake.

I mean, there was the real Dana on the Sports Center part, but I think like during the fight scenes, like the press conference part, I think that's fake. I think that was a fake day. Oh, okay, because he was wearing a mask.

I was like, right. I was like, how to get Dana? That should tell you everything. Yeah, it's like, this isn't real.

This is Hollywood show business. Oh. Oh. Oh, God. Oh. Oh. Let's talk about men getting their, their faces, Bastien, and not that Eminem thing.

No, okay. All right, well, let's start with Alexander Volkov while the questions and the comments start to roll in. Jose, Alexander Volkov, since that Curtis Blades fight, it's a new man, massive. And I remember when he weighed in for the Walt Harris fight and he weighed in at like 265 or 266, like right at the heavyweight limit.

And I was like, oh, boy, normally when he weighs that much, that means he's like out of shape, he's not taking things seriously. And then he lit Walt Harris up like a Christmas tree, especially to the body. And then he delivers a phenomenal performance. I mean, every strike he landed tonight was devastating to Alistair over him. What did you think of Bullock's performance tonight? I don't know if he's a new man or like he's all this improved and everything. Because let's not forget, he was 10 seconds away from beating Derek Lewis.

And then he just got dominated by Curtis Blade. So if he isn't a fool and he lets Derek Lewis punch him a bunch of times with like 30 seconds to go, He has one loss in the UFC, what would his record be like? Six and one, seven and one, and now it's like, what, six and two or something like that? He's only lost to Derek Lewis and Curtis Blades. Derek Lewis can knock any human, anything that walks out. And then Curtis Blades, it is what it is. So Walt Harris is also a phenomenal fighter, but Overeem just demolished him too.

So I think this Volkov is what we all knew because, like, who else did he lose to? Shek Congo, like back in the Bellator days. And then he rattled off all those impressive wins and Embers. one in the UFC. So I just think fans, it's more of a recency bias. They saw him get dominated by Blaze and the Dominate Harris. But I think this is the Volkov we've seen. And I think he's a big factor that played is he didn't have to worry about getting taken down

because he knows Overim's probably going to stand a strike with him. And like Casey said in the preview show and I tweeted it, it looked like Alistair Overim did a lot of sparring with giant gloves because he would hold his hands up here. And Volkov would just be like, there's an opening. and he would just light him up even though over and his hands were up because he doesn't have all that extra padding from his kickboxing sparring or whatever he was doing. So yeah, awesome for him. So, yeah, awesome for him. What is? I don't know.

How many knockles does he have career? As A.K. joins us like 20-something. So, yeah, phenomenal performance. Phenomenal. I feel like his confidence just continues to rise. Like, he's just more comfortable in that octagon every time we see him. And I think that's a, I mean, pretty cliche thing to say because I think everybody, as you get, in there you get more confident but i mean when you're trading shots with these heavyweights with

massive power i mean just it's pretty cool aka how are you buddy what did you think of uh volkov's performance are we not on the eulogizing frankie edgar part of the uh you all are to the show yet anyone can win yes anyone can win Jose you guess what not anyone can get hit by a knee so hard that they they they probably weren't moving for at least like a full minute uh and probably didn't recover until the commercial break. Gentlemen, don't let me sidetrack whatever conversation you were having about the main event, Volkov, Overeem, or whatever.

Remember you get to digger, saying and stuff, let me know I'm just grieving over here. That was tough to watch. It's tough to watch. I'm a fan. I'm a fan. I'm a fan. I just wanted to come on so I wouldn't be alone.

I just wanted to be here with the people that I love the most. Helping me get through this difficult time. man you just sunk this thing into a downer place man was everyone doing tonight that's everyone doing tonight that's fine i am an unbiased watcher Casey what did you think of Volkov's performance you did pick him so you come out smelling like roses after losing like five or six picks in a row yeah i did um you know as much as i want to give vocal okay i knew Volkov was i know i know i know he's in a elite heavyweight.

I knew he's super dangerous. I knew like everything Jose said. He's, nine out of ten times he beats Derek Lewis. Yeah, he lost Curtis blades. He got him. And if that Curtis Blades fight was in the big,

the big octagon, who knows, but it happened. Man, but over him, man, he looked, he just,

he finally looked his age, his age, I guess, like his body didn't look quite the same. I mean, we, we, we,

of comparisons to Overe him 10 years ago, but we're kind of past that. But even it's just, everything just seemed off. I don't know. My feeling is it was the M&M video. Right before he's about to come out, they go, hey, UFC staff goes, hey, over him, check out this video. And like, it just never ends. And he just had to watch an M&M video. And he just, he just never got his head on straight. And, um, and maybe a vocoff since there was like a language barrier, he just didn't know he was watching. So he was fine. So, um, that's my only explanation for, um, the very, um, a just sad performance from Overbrain and great performance from the book of Eminem curse and he wasn't it wasn't even his fault it wasn't even his fault right we always

we joke up with the Eminem car he didn't even walk out to Eminem he was just he was M&M was thrust upon him yeah let me ask you this AK since uh you're kind of in a in a downer spot get my mind off what get my mind off of that whatever happened the clinic come in bed please make you work we are we are we are waiting the announcements We were awaiting the announcements of the bonuses. This one's going to be easy. So let me ask you, A.K., did young O'Day Osborne get the Ikeville and away, do you think he gets the Ikeville in a way of a treatment where he doesn't get a bonus after those finishes?

No, because, oh, right. Well, maybe they won't. They should give a fight of the night, though. They should give a fight of the night. There was some good, but there was at least two. I think both lightweight fights were awesome. So, yeah, probably, I hope O'Day doesn't get, because, oh, O'Day was spectacular.

I think maybe, yeah, right, because that has to be O'Day, Volca, of O'Day Sanhagan. Mike, why didn't you think about this? I thought we were trying to get my mind off this. O'Day, San, it should be O'Day San Hagan and either Johnson Guida or Darius, Diego. You put Johnson, Guilla, O'R? There's going to be, there's not going to be a fight of the night. Oh, really? Four.

There's going to be no fight of the night. Furred. Darius was phenomenal. It was really good. I thought it was a high-level M-M-M-M-M-A. It was great. But I really enjoyed Johnson Guido too. You really?

Yeah. That was a fun fight. It was a fight. It was like, cool. It's a fight. It's a fight. In fairness, it's probably surpassed. Obviously, my, you know, it's like, Daryush and Faheda lived up to my very high expectations.

And I think I had low expectations for Gwit Johnson. Like, it'd be cool to watch because they're both good veterans. But so, you know, I think it was the entertainment surprised me. So maybe that's why I'm giving more credit to Guida and Johnson. But yeah, obviously for Hayden and Derek's great. We thought it was really great. The first round was freaking awesome. It was a great fight all the way through.

But yeah, they could go for it. You go to go for performance bonuses? I do. Or three or whatever. So they don't always have to give out an exact amount every time. I do. I feel like this is one of those ones that we all think there's an awesome fight. And as I always say, like I'm not picking things based on what I believe,

just based on the data that the UFC has shown, they tend to skip a lot of fight of the nights and stuff like that. So, Devante Smith might be the one left out here since, I mean, he got a finish, but it was like a side. Yeah, but it was doctor. I think that's fair. Yeah, I think that's fair. But yeah, I also, you know, the, none of the fights were, the fights were the two lightweight fights were time. They weren't like Slop-knocker.

Like, I think he's right, obviously super high-level stuff. the first round of Fahada, Darius, was absolutely just nonstop action. And then, you know, and then I think you appreciate more of the technical side of stuff in the last two rounds. So, again, they also kept a pretty high pace even as it went on. But, yeah, they're not necessarily the slobber knockers that, you know, Dana Whiten and whoever it is that decides bonuses love. So, yeah, I could see the four bonuses instead. I do hope O'D Day gets one, regardless of whether it's four bonuses, four performances or two performances. I would also like to, I would also like to add Casey to your M&M.

theory that our good friend might well i'm not sure if you're aware of who this individual is i know mike does our good friend j petrie over on sherdog has a running list of walkouts of m&m people and how they have done and they have won 45% of their fights so not as big of a difference as you think so there's a couple no there's a couple no contests overturns like aniston sylva always walks out. I think someone walked out to Eminem once and eventually became a no contest and stuff like that, but they win 45% of that fight. So shout out to our friend Jay over at Sherdob, who has a running list.

So 55% then lose themselves. Correct. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well done. Yeah, well done. Thank you. Mom spaghetti. You know that's a bad joke when AK says, good job. Yeah.

That's a dad joke. And the list, and for those wondering, the list dates back to UFC 51, which is when Tito Ortiz walked out to the song Mosh, which is an awful song. And then it goes all the way up to Billy Corantillo walked out. And this isn't just solely M&M song. Like Billy Q walked out to Obie Trice featuring M&M. So this isn't just a solo one. So Jay did his homework. So got to give respect words to.

Will he add this to the list? The question does count as over again being forced to, I mean, I think technically it was, but. Maybe. I know. Well, let's see what the peeps have to say. I'm sure we're going to get a lot of reaction to Corey Sanaghani's knockout and where he might go. What a knockout that was. Want to go to the card first?

Or we're just going to go straight to the peeps? What do you want to do, Mr. Heck? We can go to the peeps. We can go to the peeps and we'll throw in some stuff in the in-between time. All right. I'm ready to talk about the knockout whenever it comes up. I'm ready. It's better if I talk about it. Okay, sorry, I haven't liked to the YouTube comments on a bit.

Just how good is Czech Congo? That should be the first question. Not how good is Alchamane Sterling. How good is Chekongo? Just how good is Vitaly Minnikov. I was like, I get Minnikov. Where is he? Vinikov rules. Minniko. Where is he? Is he still in Bellator? Yeah.

I think, I think that of the pandemic and all that kind of mess things up with. He hasn't even fought in Russia. Doesn't he have, is he not? I would think Belator would let up, because Russia, all kinds, they've been holding all kinds of events there and won every Russian league is pretty much running shows normally. So I don't know, I thought he had a deal with Belator where he could fight for other, for Russian promotions. But he hasn't fought as 17.

I believe that might have been. Was that a Bjorn Rebney deal? Could have been. Because I know he had Visa. issues back in like the mid to like 2013 to 2016 time so he fought a bunch over in fight night global's right yeah yeah yeah yeah i remember that yeah uh Zach Tuvaasa walking into my heart that was amazing toovasa he's also he he always walks out to a unconventional pop song if I'm who walked out to we are the world someone walked out to real that one I don't know that was the best

sounds like a genki pseudo thing to do but um I was going to say what do you guys think of the sorry we'll get to choose this question saying what did you guys think of the Biggie versus Biggie battle with San Hagan and Edgar? That's pretty cool. We all knew that was coming. Well, yeah, that's pretty cool. I mean, did San Hagan walk out to give me the loot again? Yeah.

I mean. The third best, the third best Biggie song ever. That's my favorite. You think it's better than kicking the door? No. That's my favorite. I like, kicking the door is number one. I tweeted this at Megan will leave you when she asked me to rank.

I gave her a top 10 if you want me to run through it. Danny Sigura disagreed with me. I also like machine gun funk though as well but also be in my top three. So number one, kicking the door. Number two, who shot you? Number three, give me the loot.

Number four, 10 crack commandments. Number five, juicy. Number six, one more chance. Number seven, what's beef? Number eight, can't say on air. And I will never say it in general. But blank bleed. Nine, going back to Cali, 10, hit the up.

I was going to say, that has to be on there. See, my second favorite Biggie song ever is everyday struggle. It doesn't even make your top 10. It's a great song. He has so many winners. So many winners. But I think kicking the door,

kicking the door, I think the final verse of kicking the door is one of the lyrical is big yet is best. Who Shaya is pure venom. And as I said, anyone who drops a Shaka Khan reference in a hip-hop song automatic goat status.

Three, he plays two different people. So gotta give respect. Four, it's great. But I just think people who have never experienced that hardship in life like to use that to act hard. and number five juicy is just an OG classic of course all right uh I could go on I have a lot of thoughts on this some news before we hit Tristan Gordat's question uh both Alexander Volkov and Alistair Overeign both being transported so we will not hear from either of those gentlemen at the post

five press conference so there you go listen we have bonuses as well oh let's hear them I'm seeing bonuses I see Volkov and Sanhagen O'Day Osborne got the snub he got that villainy but and uh fight of the night deryush fajeta so no complaints there. But yeah, unfortunately, someone had to be left out. So O'Day Osborne, 26 second one-punch knockout is not receiving a, at least as far as we know, one of the listed performance of the night bonuses. Oh, it was a nice knockout. I'll give it that. But man, Jerome Rivera just, that was just, I love Dominic Cruz. I love Dominic Cruz as a commentator because Dominic said, Dominic goes, yeah, that was just really lazy by Rivera.

Who is Rivera's manager? Who is his manager? Yeah, I know. They're both, both of those guys are Arridium guys. All right. A lot of respect for Ariridium as manager's company. Obviously, love working with them. But man, and look, I know you don't say no to the UFC when they come with a fight offer.

But boy, this was a rough start for UFC career. He's fought two times in the last 17 days, three times since October, I think. Three different weight classes. God bless Rivera. He's a gamer. or I hope because it was all this short notice stuff that they gave me another opportunity. But man, 0 and 3 to start, 26 second knockout.

I don't know. This might be, uh, case, did you see that? Yeah, dude, there's someone in your, there's someone in your place. Just a warning. I just saw a small Asian lady from behind me. Be careful, there's someone in there. But I hope reverend has another chance or the opposite. Maybe it's better that he doesn't fight in the UFC again for now.

Maybe go back to the regional and get his confidence and get his level of competition back to where it should be because, again, three different weight classes, 0 and 3. He's a flyweight, and he was funny at 1.45 today. That's a real time. Like what Casey said about Mr. Rivera, who was, quote, lazy and got knocked out. I feel like the same thing with Venetian. Who is the guy that I fought Venetius?

How did you say his last name? Yeah, I'm a minute. Like, that's the guy who did the kick punch. That was ridiculous. So I feel like the UFC's like, is that really a spectacular knockout when that's who you're knocking out? So it's like the same thing. Super impressive knockouts, but the other knockouts were just against higher level competition.

Yeah, that's the issue, I think. Casey, I know you put a lot of stock into level of competition when it comes to these things because, I mean, if we're like, even when we're, it's like when we're compiling our KOs, subs of the year list, you could grab five random, crazy regional, international, like moves, but the level of competition is so unpredictable. It's like, obviously we, why is the reason why we favor UFC, Bellator, etc. Yeah, I like on that.

How come no one voted? Who's the guy that knocked out Ross Pearson with a rolling, under. Like no one voted for Oh, a French guy. Yeah. And I was like that's, I felt like that was an oversight on a lot of sites. Yeah, that one regard. Oh, yeah, exactly. It was against the ex-UFC guy.

So, yeah, it's true. I don't know. I don't even think it made our, that year, did it make our, I think it did make our top. No, I didn't see a single person in any site. There was a vote. Someone voted for. It made someone's list. I don't think it made the top five. Someone did vote for it. Anyway, anyway. Sorry for hijacking that. Go on. No, no. So Rivera, Rivera's fought four times in the last six months. He fought on the Contender Series in August.

I thought he personally, he didn't get a contract. I personally thought he lost that fight to Luis Rodriguez. And then his UFC debut on like a week's notice. On like a week's notice, he has to fight freaking Tyson NAM. He took this fight on four days notice. It's crazy. It's only 25 years old. I was at the Jerome Rivera fight.

That's what I remember. I think he definitely lost that fight. Right. Yeah. Luis Rodriguez. He's talented kid. he is Jerome is

Jerome is his last loss before that was that crazy fight against Brandon Royval with that like nasty injury suffered 40 seconds into the fight so you know

maybe maybe go to the regional scene go back to LFA get a couple more wins and come on back because the guy's got talent yeah I really hope his his professional career

isn't over the age of 25 because that would I would just I don't know him but I'll be just bummed out for him but yeah He's not UFC level and a couple good wins. Who knows? But yeah.

There was a question. We answered the question. Oh, yeah. Here we go. Is it still there? Is it still there? No. There we go.

Tristan's question. Oh, Tristan. Tristan, I'm so sorry. All right. What are the chances of Dana skipping over Sanhagen of T.J. face the winner of Yon versus Sterling? Dana may feel it's a better sell for a pay-per-view. Okay.

So I made this point on Twitter that Corey Sanhagen should not have to fight anybody else. his next fight should be for the belt. Now, if the UFC decides to go the Dillashaw route, which I don't think they should. I think Dillishaw should have to get a win first. That's fine. You could do that. But Corey Sanagan's next fight should be for the title, no matter when that is. That's my opinion. There's people out there who've said that. You know what? Just make Sanhagen fight Dillishaw and the winner gets the title shot. I could not disagree with that more. But I don't know. What do you guys think? A.K., I'll start with you. do we go from me i know i know we got on to the next one but i mean it's pretty obvious what we do

at sanagan there's like one of two options i'll answer uh tristan's question since he's been waiting so long uh there's a very good chance i would the way it's phrased tristan maybe maybe you're still too optimistic and full of full uh you know you're not cynical yet but there's a very high chance that dana skips over san hagan of course of course like if you would ask me what would sandhagen have to do to um to not be skipped in line i would have said ah score like a 30 second freaking jump in knee knockout of Frank Yeager. That's not going to happen. He did that.

And I still think that Dana White is probably like, well, if TJ's available for that title, you know, to be that number one of contender shot and I can get him in there against the winner, one of those guys, I'm still going to go with TJ. The UFC is very stuck in its ways when it comes to booking its former champions and people that its views as marketable. They love Cody Garbrand.

They love T.J. Dillard shot. They love, you know, there's someone who fought last night, Pedro and Zamp for the longest time. They were very stuck on booking her in high profile fights. Again, the merits of these decisions can be debated, certainly, but it is a fact that once the UFC sees something in a fighter as far as marketability goes, they are going to ride that as long as they can. And if they think that people will accept Dillashaw getting a tell shot,

then they're going to go with it. And again, I think there are people out there maybe a little more casual fans who recognize the name and will say, oh, cool, that guy's back. I love watching Tid Dillardia fight. Is he still the champion? Like they probably don't even know about why they might even know about the EPO thing. So it's ridiculous. obviously he should not be fighting for the title.

But the question specifically is, will Dana see it that way? Yeah, of course, there's a chance that he'll put Dillard shot on there. High chance, I would say there's a better chance. Dill shot has a teleth shot than Sanhagen. There you go. Jose, I don't like to assume things, but you're the kind of guy who likes to wait until things play out. So let's just say, if you're Corey Sannhagen, are you a gigantic Piotr-Yon fan?

I don't know. That's an interesting question because I think Al Jermaine would be a guy that would recognize. He strikes me as an individual who would recognize people who deserve to fight for the title because he was in that position for so long.

So I wouldn't be surprised if Al Jermaine won and they ran that one. But I don't know. I have no idea. Al Jermaine Sterling has also wanted to fight Cody Garbrand for a long time because they have serious beef and Alzerman Sterling had insinuated some pretty awful things. about Cordy Garbrandt. So I don't know. I also want to see how the fight plays out because remember

the first member when Brandon Marano fought Figurato, we were supposed to have a winner and a loser. And that didn't happen. So for all we know, we could have a draw. We could have two six months suspension. Sterling or Yan could get hurt. I don't know. I have no idea. Also, it's still, the pandemic is still happening. This fight has already been booked once and it fell through. So let's see these two men enter the Octagon first before I start thinking about who fights who. But I do agree with you. San Hagan should not fight anyone unless it's for a belt, interim, or undisputed or otherwise, I don't care. Casey, what are your thoughts on this?

I don't think San Hagan has the name value to the UFC to I'm just going to wait for the title shot. I just don't think that's, I just think the UFC will be like, okay. I just, that's just an unfortunate reality. I feel like, I feel San Hagan, man, but San Hagan did everything he needed to do tonight. Like, okay, he did what Al Jermaine did to him. Al Jermaine needed an impressive win, and he tapped him in one round. That's exactly what Corey Sanhagen just did today. And he dropped the promo afterward.

He did everything perfect. But doesn't this, though, Casey, doesn't this show you the value of a Ben Askrin? Because what is the difference other than 21 seconds, 27 seconds, excuse me? me between what Jorge Mosvedal did and what and what I don't even want to say his name because I'm so upset. Corey Sandhagen did to Frank Edgar, right? Franki Edgar is a much, I would say, a better fighter than Ben Ascran. I don't know. I don't think that's a very controversial, you know, statement. And the knockout was incredible. But somehow this, this knockout is not going to obviously resonate the same with the Ashram woman did. And it goes to show you that when you have a guy like

Ascran who somehow is able to generate so much casual interest and really create this moment and really create a character that kind of helps to frame, help to frame that knockout. That's not one of the greatest knockouts. It's been repeated a million times. It was in foremost, I was watching today for, I don't know, for some UFC Fight Pass show or something. And so why can't Sanhagan be Mazvedal? I know he doesn't have the history, he doesn't have the same personality, but just think about your, think about your emotions after the, when Ascran got flatlined.

Right. We were all like, oh my God, that's the crazy talk I've ever seen. We're going to see the highlight rails forever. When we saw basically the same thing happen to Frankie Edgar, we were like, oh, I hope Frankie's okay. Right. And that's a valuable good feel. That's a problem.

Yeah, that's a valuable to heal, right? I think a lot of it has to do is Ben Ashton was undefeated at the time, too. This too. And he also, like, he had never, he had never lost. He flew to London to cut promos on the winner of Darren, to call out the winner of Darren to call out the winner of Darren to LaMazved. So I think it's a big comment. of Ben Ascran is a

A plus level prize fighter. Like he is a phenomenal prize fighter. Frankie is a better martial artist. But in terms of being a prize fighter, I would say Ben Asker is one of the fiveest prize fighters the U.S.C.'s had in the last 10 years. In terms of who can drum up interest. The dude's fighting Jake Paul.

Jake Paul is more famous than any other U.S. With the UFC's permission. With the UFC's permission, too. The U.S. is letting this happen. Yeah. Exactly. It's unbelievable. Like Ben, like Jake Paul is the one that brought up this fight to begin with.

And then Mike, you interviewed him and Jake, and Ben Austin was like, yeah, that was weird. I'll fight him for sure. So, yeah. I think it's just a big combination of Ben Astor talks a lot of shit. He was undefeated. And then he got decapitated. So it happens. But same thing with Chal Simon.

I sent us on this tangent to explain why, like, Corey Sanagan should be the clear. There should be no doubt. They should be on ESPN right now. They should be talking about Corey Sanagan. I talk about, man, this guy's got to be fighting for a USC title soon. Like, they should have casual talking heads. I'm talking about Corey Sandigan right now. But for a bunch of reasons.

Dana White didn't even show up tonight? Was Dana White even there tonight? I don't think so. What's he got going on? Right? This is what you do, man. You promote fights. Be your dang fight to promote it, man.

I'm here. Eminem beat him up. Oh, yeah. I don't want to blame anyone person. I don't want to blame any one person for this. Like we said, there's a bunch of reasons why that Mazzvedal knock up. became what it was when it happened and why the Sanhagen knockout probably isn't, even after like even after they spend time to package it and repackage it and show it again,

it's never going to reach the level that that Mazvedal knockout did. And there's a lot of reasons for that. But yeah, it's kind of why this question is being asked. It's like, how does this not get you a title shot right away? And when you add in everything else, Sanhagen is done. And again, there's a bunch of reasons for it, opponent level and marketing and all this stuff. So it sucks. But yeah, we could, we might not see him fight for that title until,

after a couple of people get a shot from first. Real quick, I do disagree with you, Mr. Heck. I don't think San Diego should wait for the title. I think he should absolutely be, he should absolutely sign the contract and try to fight T.J. Dillishaw. That is the only way he will fight for that title. He has to beat the T.J. J. Delishaw. Wow.

It's not fair, but I just think that's how price fighting works. And because, like, he knocks out Frankie Eggers, he can't get in the ground and go, like, bat the ground and go, and do the sleeping thing. It doesn't work. But if he knocks out T.J. Dillard shot like that, Corey Sanagan can do that whole thing because T.J.'s the bad guy. And Corey Sanaggan needs to beat up a bad guy.

Frankie Eggers is never the bad guy. Frankie Eggers is just Frankie Freaking Edgar. He makes you... Frankieger is the Ray Mysterio of the U.S. Yeah, you don't beat him up. You basically look like an asshole when you beat up Frankie Edgar. And so... All right.

Let me ask this, because A.K. Brut up a point. He's saying that, that Dillashah is like this marketable guy. Like he's very marketable. I don't agree with that. Like, do you think like T.D.

Dillisar's greatness was like, you know, the fight that there was the movement and like some of the performances he had. Like they were like, wow, this guy's really good. And then the Garbrand feud, yeah, was what it was. But I don't think he's like that marketable. Like I mentioned this on the preview show. Like what fight drums up more interest amongst the fans? Like I know one would be like, maybe a main event on a fight night card and one would be maybe the co-main event or a main event of a pay-per-view.

What fight would be bigger for T.J. Dillishah in terms of like viewing audience and people actually caring? Would it be T.J. fighting the winner, Piotr, Yon, or Al Jermaine Sterling? Or it would be T.J. Dilashaw fighting your eye of favor? Oh. I think, well, wait, wait. I think the favor fight would drum up more interest. I agree. I don't even think that fight's going to, I don't even think that's possible in 2021. on. I one million percent think it's possible. It's just a matter of getting T.J.

I'm the wild card. He has to say yes. I'm convinced that they've offered T.J. this fight already. And that's why we haven't heard anything. They want to make this fight happen. I think that's the smartest fight for T.J. The fight favor.

100%. For his own, just as a fighter, not kind of prize fighting or anything, just as a fighter and having an opponent that's clearly not as good you but you are going to be two years out of the ring and you know off the EPO or whatever so um yeah favor is one that makes sense but i think the title fight is just more money what if what if cruise wins and he wants to fight his hero i wouldn't hate that either cruise is fighting case of canny oh yeah yeah because like yeah if we're talking about big fights like cruz is a big name i's a lot of people still consider him the greatest ban on whatever

And we still got this. We still got this gentleman out there too. I think Garbrandt's fighting out, though. Yeah. I'm just saying that by now that might happen, but I'm fine with that. It's all, it's, it's, it's out there too. I like Damon's suggestions too. Like, give, give TJ Rob Fawn.

I like that idea. I mean, it's not like the sexiest fight of all times. But the problem is that, but the problem is that makes sense. Right. And like we all say, I just don't think he should be real. Title fight. I don't care how like. marketable he is. I don't think he's that marketable.

Like, this is in Connor. Sandy Fam agrees. No, Mike, you're right. He's not like a proven like big pay for you or I think even ratings drop. But the UFC certainly sees him that way and has pushed him that way. So I think they have that kind of faith in him. But no, I agree. It is a bit weird why he's kind of, he and some other people are kind of pushed

as like these huge, huge draws. But I guess they're there enough. By the way, people are asking, a lot of asking what happened to the press comments. We mentioned at the top of the show. Overeem is going to the hospital, Volkov's going to the hospital, no Dana White. So I don't think there is a press conference, right? Yeah, I don't know if San Hagan's already gone up and spoken to the media or not. Yeah, it could just be over, yeah.

Yeah, it won't be here because we're not there. Yeah, we'll be talking real quick about TJ again, but TJ is just so good at creating rivalries. San Hagan just doesn't have a rival. T.J. had a rival, rivalry of Sehudo, rivalry of Faber, rivalry with Cruz. Garbram. Garbram. Garbris. He did a good job of that, for sure.

And San Hagan is just really, really good. That's not how price fighting in the UFC works, unfortunately. He's too intelligent. He's too eloquent, too. He does like the Michael Chandler callouts where it's like he's just a little too eloquent. Like, the grammar is just too proper. It's like you got to loosen it up a little bit. But he is a very, he's a very well-spoken guy.

If you want to came out there after he knocked out Frankie and just said, I'm not a fighter, I'm a feeling. What? Oh, instant title shot. that instant title shot he should have walked into the cage like that random woman did to britton heart is out of nowhere just we knew this was coming who was that yeah oh i don't know her name i'll have to find out i'll tell you a second i think i found out who was but i don't remember uh oh okay we mentioned this and we talked about this in the preview show after what we saw a k

tonight from alister ovariem do you think we see him again yeah yeah i do i do um yeah this was like like I said, we touched upon it in some of the shows we've done earlier. And yeah, while the narrative of this being sort of his last ride and sort of his, man, it's title or bust for me, I think is something he said to convince himself. So I sort of use his motivation. I can't imagine him wanting to end his career on a loss like this. It definitely matters. You know, it was quite a visual.

He gets clipped by an incredibly, a really powerful elbow, drops him onto his knees. You know, he's so out of it. He's on his knees. He's not even flat in his back. not even flies back. He's on his knees. Thankly, Jason Herzog, very alert, very alert. He's in there.

He hears the shot. He sees the position overreams in. He's definitely no need to see anymore. So it was stopped there. So just based on even on just this one fight, yeah, I don't think, I don't think Overre wants to go like that. And again, he turns 41 in May. I know it's a bit old and he has a lot of mileage.

And in May years, he's like 50. But again, in some other forms, he still looked really good. He looked off tonight. Look, he looked off tonight. Giving all the credit to Volkov, I cannot believe that this is like the good, you know, the good overing that we saw tonight. He looked off. So I'm going to vote for no on this one. I don't think he retards.

I just noticed that your name, your name reads Alec Kaylee. Oh, my gosh. There you go. You get another, tonight of all nights, Casey. On tonight of all nights, another indignity. Alec Kay Lee is a so Corey Sanaghanagan fan. I mean, Jose, I don't think Overeem's done either, but I mean, what do you kind of do with him at this point?

I think Curtis Blaze beats Derek Lewis and then he fights Derek Lewis. Yeah. I think Curtis Blaze beats Derek Lewis. I'm pretty confident in that pick. And then I think Overeign Lewis, the Bills coming off losses. At the present time, they're four or five. I would imagine Overeign drops to six. And if Derek Lewis loses, he'll probably drop to five,

which means Volkov will sit at four. So then there'll be five six rather than four or five. So I think Derek Lewis first O'Roeuvre, which could, again, would probably still headline a fight night. Yeah. And there's the other option, Casey, you could go that route, which would make a lot of sense, especially if Curtis Blades wins. Or you could go like a different route where you kind of give him the Orlovsky sort of treatment, where you put them up against these up-and-comers and, you know, and see what they do.

Obviously, a rub with the win over Overeem for a guy is massive, you know, giving guys like the Tanner Bojures of the world. You know, maybe I don't even want to say Alexander Romanov because that's, that's a terrifying fight for anybody in that division. Yeah, you can go, Casey.

That was a question for you. Oh, sorry. Yeah. It's okay. Anyway, all I answer. I think the issue. For Ophreem, no,

actually, it really, it comes down to money. Ophreem is very, he's a very expensive heavyweight. He doesn't fight for, cheap. He's not a 50 and 50 fighter. I'm, I'm,

Overee me as a prize fighter. So I actually I want me to, I don't think he's retiring, but I do think it's a strong possibility as his last fight in the UFC. Because after this, safe to give him the Arlowski treatment. I don't know if Overeem wants to take that pay cut. And I don't know if Overeem's okay with

just being known as the gatekeeper. It's like, well, you got to beat me if you want to fight the elite guys, you know? And I just don't think Overeigns wants to do that in the UFC. I don't think UFSI. I don't think UFSI wants to paying for that and I think we're going to see Overeign fight in different promotions overseas. That's why I feel. Jose?

I think the problem with the Arlowski treatment comparing it to Overeign is Arlowski's not ranked. Overeign is still technically top five, top six fighter. And everyone in that top 15, like already lost to Inganu, lost to blades, lost to Girozino, hasn't fought Lewis, just lost to Volkov, hasn't lost gain. Lost to gain. And then hasn't fought Shamil. Beat Olinic, beat Harris, beat JDS, hasn't fought Ivanov, beat Pavlovich. I don't think he's fought Taborah.

And there's not a lot of prospects in there. And there's not a lot of, there's a lot of people on the other side of 35. So I don't know if you can justify, like he said, giving him the Alaskite year for that payday. Also, I think Overeem is a huge star in Europe and specifically Asia. Like he's a big, he's a big deal in America, obviously, in the Western Hemisphere. but he's a very big deal in Europe and Asia. UFC's not going to Europe or Asia during the pandemic. So they don't know if they need him because I think they gave him that big payday

because he could headline the Rotterdam's. You could fight on the Beijing cards. He could fight in all these markets where he is still a draw. And they don't have that right now. So I hope he stays in the UFC because I still think the best heavyweights are in the UFC and I would like to see him fight these. Like I would love to see him fight Cyril Gond. I would love for him to rematch Jairzino when they both have full camps

to prepare for each other. But if he does decide to go to 1 or Risen and gets fighting a ring again, or he gets to fight kickboxing again, just inject it into my body. Or if he wants to go to the glory route and we finally get a third fight against Bada Hard, which I've been waiting for for like 15 years, so be it. If they want him to fight Rico Verhoeven, so be it. Because that would be the biggest. It would be an awful day for Alcerol.

Yeah, it would be a bad day. It would be an awful day for AltsRossov. But how many people would watch Riekevary who would fight Alsterova? So many people would watch that fight. And if they're prize fighters, that's the biggest fight. One of the biggest fights he could have. So, yeah, I don't know what's extra ovarian, but I don't think they can justify giving the Orlowski treatment,

sitting at like six or seven. Because like Tanner Bowes is not ranked, right? Like Greg Hardy's not ranked. Murray's Green's not ranked. Like all these, like even Romanov isn't ranked. So like you want to give an unranked fighter of the number of six guy and all of a sudden you lose and number six guys like where do I go now nowhere and then the unranked guy all of a sudden has an L. So you'd be rough.

Olinic line not that Overn fights nothing but unranked guys. Right. Not that he would say no because Overeign will fight anyone. Like I think if he is going to find an unranked guy like if they rematch Ben Rothwell maybe because that was such a goofy fight in the first time and Rothwell is such a veteran. But I don't know. Is Overeign? Yes. Is Overeign versus John Jones now a better possibility?

maybe John Jones wants, if he doesn't go straight to a title, like John Jones wants to test his water or heavyweight. Coming off a loss, I think Jones doesn't want anymore, but I just say, I don't know if Jones is ever going to fight again. I don't know. Who knows, too? I came until. It's still up in the air.

But we will see Overreman rising. It's, that has to happen. I hope you mentioned it. It has to happen. Come on. I don't know if it'll happen this year. I don't know it happened three or four years from it. It might happen when over him is 50.

Honestly, we don't know if Rise is still. if Ryzen is still around and kicking ass around that time. If they're doing a light heavyweight tournament, they can just, and Bader wants to vacate, that Bellator heavyweight championship might need the new holder. Oh, there we go. And that could do a lot of cross motions with Ryzen. And Cochre and Overeem have done business before, so, yeah, who knows?

It's true. Okay. Maris Buzonowski versus Alster Overeign, KSW. Shoutouts, by the way, to our, our pal, Mark Romandi, for telling us that the young lady who sent into the BKFC ring afterwards, for the post-fighter running was called a young lady named Jenny Savage. Jose I sent to a podcast featuring this this classy, classy woman who was short of headline against Britain Hart at a future BKFC event.

Also, Casey, we have a misspelling of a Phoenix under Jose's name. Oh, I would also like to say. Thank you, Mark. Someone just messaged me on the Instagram. someone by the Instagram at DMEY1 I believe sent me Volkov's tattoo artist and it is Max underscore Titanic he's based in Moscow and I can't see Volkov's work on this but it looks exactly like it's uber impressive I don't like tattoos at all but that thing is this pretty shout out to I can't pronounce I'm not even going to try to pronounce last name it's super Russian so shout out to

Max Titanic. Okay, okay. I didn't want to talk about this. I don't want to talk about this. We got to bring it up. We got to bring it up. We got a minute L. Cape question. How did you guys score Pantosia Cape?

Okay. I think the point of contention was the 3027 scorecard because the 29, 28 seemed to make a lot of sense. There's a 3027. And people kind of question that one. When I was asked that, I would say that 3027 was not the most egregious score card I've ever seen, but I thought 2928 was pretty fair. The right guy won. That's all the matters. The right guy won. That's all

the guy wants. Yeah. I would have it. It's not like if you lose a round, you lose a paycheck. Yeah. Yeah. I assume we want to use this as a moment. Imagine that. Imagine a world where the more rounds you win, the more money you get. Don't give them any ideas. That's great. Don't give them any ideas.

People would just grind out cutting measure all day. If you lose a split, if you lose a split, half your win money. gone. It's like half. You only won two-thirds of the fight. How can we give you your full pay? But, uh,

imagine Chelle Sondon versus Anderson Silva. And Chelle's like, hey, uh, I'm up. I, I should get four-fifths of the boat, the bell, you know? 80%. I'm 80% at least. Four and a half of my four and a half rounds worth of fish. All right. Well, well, oh, you know, oh, you don't want to talk about Keith.

Yeah. I mean, you want to talk about his performance, right, Casey? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, we were all very high on, on Cape coming out. I think a lot of us picked Pantosia to win. I thought it. And I thought it would be, though, Pentosia, Katzen was submission.

Yeah, I thought it was Pentosia either takes him down or jumps the gilly at some point, Katzen him. But, you know, Pentosia is such a deadly finisher. I wouldn't have thought it would have been a three-round striking battle that Pentosia would have won. But he had the right game plan. He was very – he's always aggressive, but he didn't change that against a guy with really, really big knockout power at 125 pounds. Went right at him.

Was much more active. The commentary, I think, was on point today. Corme mentioned it over and over again. They just weren't seeing a lot. from Cape was great movement. You saw a lot of the glimpses of why we're so high on him for anyone who has not seen him fight in Verizon before. A lot of charisma.

You know, and he had his moments. He was landing. He was landing. It just wasn't landing as consistently, right? And that's going to cost you in a UFC fight, unfortunately. So that big knockout never came. And he kind of paid for it. So I don't know.

I mentioned this. I think he was too calm. You know, he was asked earlier in the week like, oh, are you worried at all about UFC DB? And he's like, no, I fought it. I fought at the time of Superina. I fought in front of 40,000 people. I'm not nervous at all.

And I'm like, he did look really calm. But I think that that was like, I think he looked like he also lacked urgency. And I think that was maybe the issue here. Well, let's also remember that Pantosia has been preparing for Monell Cape for like a long-ass time, probably like nine or ten months. You know what I mean? And what stuck out to me in that fight was Mnell Cape is so good at setting traps, especially on the feet, so good at it.

He's so good at throwing feints and making you fall for him. Like, he's so convinced. And that's what gets people in trouble. Pantosia didn't fall for anything. And that's why Cape was kind of thrown off because normally when he fights these guys, even like the Kaias Kura fight, like he sets these traps and guys fall right into it. And then he lands those ferocious combinations and strikes.

He's such a powerful striker. He lands it and puts these guys away. But Pantosia is like, I ain't falling for any of this shit. And that's what happened. He just, Pantosia just looked good. He was able to just use the volume and get it done. I actually, I thought the fight was closer than a lot of. of people thought it was because I thought like Pantosia was landing no doubt about it he was landing

but he was missing a lot too but getting credit for some strikes in the commentary and I thought Cape was landing like especially like the second half of the fight I thought Cape was landing the definitely the more effective shots so that's why I thought it was closer I still scored up for Pantosia but Pantoa kudos to him for his patience and you know sticking in there because Pantosia likes to get into these wars. Like, he was a patient guy. He was picked his shots. He was throwing a lot of volume, but he wasn't getting into firefights.

And that's what gets Pantosia into trouble. He didn't do that here. It was definitely a different sort of approach, even though he stayed on the feet. So I was super impressed with his approach of the fight, especially against a guy like Monell. What did you think, Casey? I know you're so high on Manel and, you know, I think we all are. Okay.

First of all, I'm super high in Pantosia, too. I'm just. Oh, of course. I'm just, yeah, everyone's like thinking, oh, you think Panove's just like, no, I just think Monell Cape's that good. But I don't think Meno Kape is like, like Habib or something. Like, you know, he's just going to, you know what I mean? Like, I just think he's an elite 125er. I don't know if, I don't know if Cape can beat Figuero. I don't know if Cape can beat Marino. I just know, but I do know that he belongs in that conversation. That is all.

Unfortunately for this fight, I think, I think, I think, I think, I think the commentary just nailed it. I did think Cape was actually, I think he's the better fighter, but he lost the fight. That's all that happened. And like, like, like, right now, Monell Cape is in his hotel room, with an L and he has like probably like no bruises on his body he's like was I even in a fight I fought 15 minutes in the UFC and like I'm fine you know and I just think yeah it just unfortunately he was too relaxed and and like you said Pantoja they thought I think when the matchmakers put this fight down like oh Pintoja comes and bangs Cape's can come and bang it's going to be a super exciting fight and unfortunately for maybe the fit some of the fans and for Monell Cape fans

Pantoja fought strategically and boring and that's how he won the fight and I think this is just a learning lesson for Cape and I don't really take too much yeah I don't really take too much out of this because I knew both these guys were super good and I just thought this would be more of a big kind of coming out party for Cape which it wasn't

but so was Eddie out when Eddie Avers first came to UFC he lost his first fight too so I mean sucks for Cape congratulations Panthe Noted Gamrod and I was super high in Gamron. Yeah, you know, so. That's true. That's all.

It wasn't the fight. And none of them were bad fights. Yeah, it wasn't a bad fight. I was just expecting so much. Gamrod and Cap all lost. Yeah. I also like also Cap has lost or Cape, however you pronounce the last name. Like all of his, most of his losses have been decisions, right?

And he's never won a decision. As soon as, yeah. I don't know. Where would you, okay. So where would you put? So Manel was obviously unranked coming in. Where would you rank him now? He's clearly top 15.

Where was Pantoja ranked? Four. Four or five. Four or five. I think you put Cape back six, seven, whatever. I would put him nine right under Matchnell. Matchnell's coming off a really impressive win over Tyson Nam.

And then everyone above him has had really high level fights like recently. I would put him nine. Wherever Pandoja is up in Cape. I'm sorry, going on. Brandon Roy vows number six. Kai Kar France is number seven And then Rogirio Bonterin And Matt Chanel are tied for eight

So I'd probably put cap right at nine The O and won the UFC And he's on one And he's don't won the UFC Right But the other ones are like three and one Like the Higerio is three and one in the UFC Yeah

Cape fought tougher fights outside the UFC Then these guys have fought in the UFC So I definitely put Cape I definitely put Cape I definitely put Cape No I'm not saying I'm not saying you're wrong.

I'm just saying, I mean, he's 0 and 1 in the UFC, and that's going to matter. These are UFC rankings, not MMA rankings. Yeah, so we bump Tyson in the top 15? I do not respect or even, what's the word? UFC rankings mean nothing to me. They mean nothing to me. The question was about the U.S. rankings. It's like asking you what your favorite, it's like asking what your favorite jelly bean is.

And you're like, I like, I like Starburst, shut up. I'm like, okay, I asked about jellybee. I mean, I have to go back in time a bit, but when Eddie Alvarez lost to Soroni, was he still unranked after that? Do they have rankings then? Well, I mean, that's what they did. I mean, I just think it's, I just think it's,

the whole idea that for some reason, your past doesn't matter when you come into the UFC. I don't know. I'd think the rankings, where rankings are stupid anyway, until we get our own MMA fighting rankings, which I need to talk to Alex K. Lee about off air. Yeah, we'll get on that. We're getting on that.

You know, it's funny you mentioned at the Alex K. You say Alex K. Lee in rankings the same sentence because it's Mike now as I keep my own super secret rankings. So, Jose, when you said nine, you're not counting. You're like doing like the UFC, you don't count. You don't count the champion, right? The champion's not on the list. I was talking about, yeah, yeah, yeah. I was talking about the number that goes next to the name.

I, because like, you are. Joggi Horaguchi would probably, like, Dmitz Johnson is still the number one flyer in the world to me. I'm just talking about the name that's on the UFC broadcast. Yeah. And again, and you don't, you put, you put, like, champion's not in the list, right? You're talking about like the number one contenders won and then.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So Moreno would be one. Yeah. If you're going by that, you are spot on, sir, by my list because, yes, I have. The names I have and the top eight would be Benavides, Moreno, Alex Perez, Ascarov, Pentosia, Royval, Kai Kar, France. And oh, I guess he, yeah, yes, and then Schnell and then, yes, he'd be behind Chanel. So we rarely agree on things, Jose, but that's like really exactly, I think, where I would put

cape right now. wherever Pantosia is Cape is one spot behind him Oh he's not Renan Roy, I'll stop that Stop that You heard me Oh

Oh mute Oh no Okay that just made me mean This is a Trumpian estate Where whoever disagrees with a mute man Get muted Oh man I forgot that's power

What do we think is next for Pandosia though Is he Perez Perez Yeah The winner of Ascroft and Benavitas maybe I don't know Or the loser

Yeah that's fine I think I honestly think I brought this up to Matt Snell When after his win And before it like if that draw Between Moreno Figurado is actually beneficial Because now the rest of the division Can kind of figure out who's next

Because after Moreno If Cape hadn't won If Cape was probably number next in line if you had one, but like there was no one at the time who was a clear cut number one after Moreno. So I think this is, I think this is,

it's beneficial that it was a drug. Kay versus Sue Mageri or Kai Kar-R-Franz? I like that. I think Majori's, but Sue's moving up to 35, right? Yeah, I like the Kai Kar-France. I like that, actually. He has a fight.

Yeah. Oh, he does? Guy has a fight. Yeah, Kai's fighting. What about Tim Elliott? I don't think Tim Elliott has a fight. But honestly, Listen, I would love the idea of giving you.

I want, I want Cape to get a show off. And I would love Tim Elliott. Matt Snell. Matt Snell. If he's number nine and match number eight. And they're both coming like. I like that. I like that.

That's a good fight. The problem is Matt Snell's coming off a big win. So if they'll maybe Tyson, Tyson name is a fun fight too. Kate versus Name is also a scrap. But I want, but I want someone he would just whoop. You know what I mean? And that's tough because flyweight is pretty thin. So all the flyways they have are like most of them are actually really good.

So there is no, quote unquote, like jobber at 1-25, unfortunately. but I kind of want to... What if he goes out there and just destroys Timelaide? Maybe. But at the same time, Timmyr's Johnson could have do it in five rounds. I just did it in two minutes or something like that. Timela could also just take...

Timelaide could take his ass down and just ride him for like 15 minutes. Like, that really can happen. Timelaide, it's also never in a boring fight. This is true, but I don't care about boring or exciting. I want to see Cape's style on someone. I want to see him just smash someone so that people can understand why there is that excitement.

And again, I know it sounds like, how good is this guy if I need to cherry pick opponents for him? But I'm saying, look, some of our greatest fighters built their reputation on competition that most people don't even remember now. So there's no shame and a little like showcase booking. I don't know

if they can do that for Kate without bringing someone new in because most of the 125ers are really good from one to like 25. But yeah, I'm I'm a shaky, I'm a sneaky businessman. I want to see some. I just want to see a can just thrown at them. Didn't they just bring? Who did they who did they just bring back?

Bring from back? Well, we think. Atayas Nikolao? Did they just bring back Nikolao? Oh, that's a... Yes, he is resigned. Who's he fighting? He was supposed to be fighting Ulan Bekhov.

I like that fight too. But they got canceled because Ulan Bekhov, there's a reason they got canceled, but I don't remember. There's an opponent change up there. And then you get guys like Jimmy Flick on the come-up. I mean, there's lots of good stuff. Someone suggests Al-Machs suggested him in L.K.

versus Brandon Royval. I like that fight. That'd be a blast. Those two would, I mean, that would just be a war, but Cape probably wants to stay as active as possible since he missed a lot of time. So, and Roy Val just had shoulder surgery or he's about to have shoulder surgery. He's not going to be like that. I'm hearing like September, October would be the earliest he could come back and fight. And I will say, like a super healer.

Especially the first round, Cape did look uncomfortable in an octagon. He just didn't look like he knew where the sides were. He's falling in a ring his entire career. So fighting in Octagon, I'm not going to say Octagon jitters because it clearly didn't have jitters, but he's clearly like, where the hell am I? This is weird. It was a little one. It was a little one, too.

It was a small ophagod. He must have been like feeling claustrophobic compared to a ring in a sitama arena. Yeah. It must have been so, so strange. His last six or seven fights have been in front of, yeah, in the titama arena in front of 40,000 people. No fans. Yeah. So strange.

I'm not too word. It was like fighting a thimble for. Yeah. Pretty much. Can Carol Hosa be a threat in the women's Bannerweight Division going three and O in the UFC? So I don't like to pat myself in the back too much on these shows, but I think I nailed that fight on the Q&A about as eloquently as I possibly could. I mean, the fight went exactly the way I said it was going to go. Edwards is going to unless if she just fights her fight and takes her down, she'll win.

And Edwards made her pay for it. That was a nasty gash. and Edwards has a bright future no doubt about that but man she has to address this defensive wrestling and getting off her back stuff like very quickly

she did have a great transition in the first round which led to the damage and it kind of threw hosa off but then whatever was said to her in the corner obviously worked they were just like cut the crap Carol do what you do

take her down and beat her up and that's what she did so Edwards is a bright prospect she's no doubt about it but the question is about Carol Hosa and can she be a threat in the women's band-o-eight division? What do you think, Jose? Do you look at her and say that, you know, this is a woman that could be, you know, top 10,

maybe top five, you know, in the next year, 18 months? Yeah, because I'm pretty sure Nican Montanio was, what, 15-14, she's 0-1 in the division, right? So, yeah, Carol has 100% could be a band-in-weight, ranked band-and-weight fighter. So, yeah, for sure. I mean, Sarah McMahon is probably still in the top 10, and she's coming off a submission loss.

Mason Chazin's still up there. Panicans, it's way up there. Like, yeah, 100%. She could be ranked. Whether that's, she fights for the title in 21, I don't think so. But top 15, I think she gets one more win.

It's a no-brainer. She could be 15 now with being 3 and O. You're like, who's 14? If my memory is correct, Nico was number 15, which means like, yeah,

Sejar or Julia Vila is probably 13, 14, or somewhere in that rank. so yeah exactly probably like she's supposed to fight julia villa what like a hundred times something like that this is the lady okay yeah i was like so i think julia i think if we're talking about her next fight she should take i know uh i know uh how do you pronounce julia's matched julia vila's matched up with serranco right what how do you pronounce saliranco yeah so there you go yeah so julia on julia winner fights caro Rosa Carol Hosa. There you go.

Carol Hosa on a pole match. The winner gets a girl. I like it. Speaking of pro wrestling, if only Edwards had been able to get that Boston crab in when she escaped the mounts. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Maybe a Texas release, maybe in a single leg crab,

something. But clearly, I think she's a little bit into business there. She wasn't ready to go for that back submission, that spinal lock. And unfortunately that in my appas for the fight. But yeah, I think Hosa is easily in my top 15. So I had her at 17, well, I guess we're not counting the champion, 16 in my ranking. So now she jumps over on my list, Avala, Sejarra Eubanks, Panakianzad, Macy Jaston,

and I think I would also put her above Lena Landsberg. So I think she's like my 11th rank. She just outside the top 10 for me. Three and O, yeah, I don't know. Maybe I'm over-ranking her. But that's just at a glance. I think she's going up that list pretty fast. Wow, I need to get an AK's ranking.

She jump up six spots against a short notice opponent. She probably shouldn't have been that low. Well, I mean, maybe I had her too low when you think about it. I mean, should she have already been ranked above Julia Avala? Should she have already been ranked above Penny Kianzad? Maybe, right? Like, she jumped up. Maybe my rankings aren't, you know, she might have been too low.

So she might have really only jumped up realistically three or four spots. Yeah, I like Jose's idea. I think that makes sense. I don't see her as a fighting for the title, actually. within the next four or five years. But she's a quality band-to-way. She's a UFC level, for sure. And I wish she was a little more active on her feet.

When she was throwing those really strong leg cakes, I liked it, but just not enough volume, honestly. But, yeah, she looked good. And, yeah, short-nosed opponents. And, yeah, it was a good fight. It was fine. Let's talk about the fight of the night. Benil Darius won his six fight in a row,

despite Jareil. Giving CDF 29, 28, where does Benile go in the lightweight division? He's ranked 13. This is like the dark horse lightweight championship fight between these two guys. And boy, do these two gentlemen deliver. What a fun fight that was. Darius looked great. The takedowns are good.

CDF turned it on in the third round. It was just a fun scrap, man. This is like a Jose Young's kind of a fight, just high-level martial arts, just going down for our eyeballs to see and behold. It was a great fight. what would you do next with with darius jose and what did you make of his win over a really good fighter in in carlos diego for herah for had actually it was a tough it was just a tough fight it was two guys that would have to dig deep and like pull out these tricks that they add in the because like when you're that high level and you're basically fighting to stay relevant you're going to do whatever it takes outside of cheating so they had they pulled out every possible trick they could and i just thought it was like like you said a high level martial arts scrap so what's next for him i don't Like, it should be RDA probably, but they're friends. So they're not, they're probably not going to fight unless it's for the title.

So I'd say Hooker, Felder, or Ferguson. I doubt it's Ferguson. So Hooker or Felder probably somewhere right there. Iakinta, one of those three. He deserves a top 10 guy. Hooker and Felder are very popular, especially Hooker's been in the headlines a lot, but Hooker's still stuck in Dubai right now. Felder said he's not retiring.

So probably one of those three. Ferguson would be fun, but it's probably not going to happen. I will say that I already know where I'm going with this, and I will reveal on onto the next one, and I have a feeling I'm going to get a little heat for this pick, but we'll leave it at that. What did you think, what do you think, Casey? I mean, Benil Darius, great performance.

And by the way, can I just say, what a wonderful human being that guy is, gets on the microphone, ask the question. What does he do? He puts over his opponent first, and by the way, Diego Faheda should have been fighting a top five guy. I probably should have been fighting a top five guy too, but he should be fighting a top five guy.

And then he takes the other time to put over his friend or teammate, which I don't remember the name, but from what I saw on Twitter, Michael Perez, Michael Perez. Michael Perez. Do we look him up on topology or anything? Yeah, he's a former LFA flyweight champion and a Cuban Olympian wrestler.

All right, so he's legit. He's been in this fifth. He's been in this, but good, yeah. Okay. So, Casey, we are thoughts on, this whole thing. Well, I loved what he said about, you know, when you put over Diego, Ferrer,

because on our pre-fight show, we kind of talked about who has the biggest, who can have the potential highest stock rise and who can have the biggest, you know, fall. And I thought the loser of this fight, and I still feel that way because Carlis Diego Ferrer is just, you know, one degree behind, you know,

Derr used in this fight. It was an awesome fight. but I just like these are two guys the UFC clearly don't want in high and featured fights and especially fights that you know involve paper views I mean they were like the first fight on the first fight on the main card there were four fights five fights from the top I mean we had clay Gweed and Michael Johnson two unranked lightweights two fights above them I just think that was ridiculous when these guys were just so talented they deserve to be higher on the card and yeah it just been out there just freaking awesome

Awesome. But who should he fight next? I feel like he's got to fight someone behind him. It kind of sucks. That's just like because there is because there just doesn't generate those clicks. Doesn't you know he's not he just doesn't do what doesn't move the needle enough for the UFC poor guy like say that he should fight like a Tony Ferguson or something like that. I mean I think. Tony Hooker makes the most sense. Hooker makes the most sense though. I just don't see it. Yeah. Hooker's on a two fight losing streak. I don't think he can he can afford to say no at this point. Yeah. So. And Hooker and Feld are already fought in there right down the rankings. I mean, if we're talking just rankings and what should be done, yeah, like Darius versus

Connor McGregor, that actually makes sense. But of course, that's never going to happen because this is, that's not how the world works. But, yeah, Darius is going to fight some guy behind him. Like, like Al-Ikina or he'll have to fight the winner of Mokachov, Drew Dover, maybe, something like that. Casey, it's funny you mentioned the placement of the card. like they were the lower lower placed lightweight fight and they didn't even get like they originally supposed to be the the main card opener which i also think is a good spot like they didn't even get the that sweet kind of curtain jerker spot which can be a really good thing because it's when everyone

it's when everyone tunes into the main card broadcast i think it's when you have probably some of the most casual interest outside of the main event and they lost that because the uc is so assistant on having a six-fight main card that when askar askar and cody steamin was removed they bumped up rodriguez and marquez uh and then they made that the open was kind of confusing. I would have rather they put that second and put Darayush and Faheda first. So they even missed out on that opportunity. We weren't even get that priority.

But at least they gave them the bonus. They did for anyone just tuning in. They did get a flight of the night bonus. So that's good for Fahedah and Darius. But yeah, very strange situation. And I'm sorry, I had to read out one comment that I saw passed by from Noah Ewing, who says, you each, all of us, look like the person I would expect to run into in your towns. So, Casey, you look like someone from Englewood.

You're telling me, Casey Lyon looks like someone from Englewood? Apparently, according to Noah Ewing, Jose, you look like some of Phoenix, Mike Hack, of course, classic New Englander. And, yes, I definitely look like someone from Markham and Markham or the Greater Toronto area. Toronto, fair Toronto. I'm in the Greater Toronto area, so the GTA. So Noah Ewing, very accurate. Possibly a little stereotypical as well, but very accurate. How would you, like, if you look at A.K.

from Toronto, obviously a major city. Okay? Jose and Phoenix, major city, lots of sports teams. Inglewood, up to no good. Like people, everyone, no one knows are Lennox, Massachusetts. No one has any idea. How would you even know? I think he meant more. I think he's lumping all about New Englanders together, as I have as well.

So that's why I agree with it because I don't know. I don't know if someone from Lenox, well, I don't know. I just assume we're all the same from Massachusetts. So thank you, Noah Ewing. Very insightful YouTube comment. I think it wasn't until like way into middle school where I learned what when the New England Patriots I was like I was like where is New England

I have no idea where you I've looked at the map I do not see New England so someone finally explained to me it's like no it's just you did that you did the uh there's a New England yeah the New England you'd be sure when I'm when I moved to Arizona everyone's on Rhode Island was part of New York

they keep they were confused it with Long Island Oh Staten Island Oh Staten Island right yeah Food Don't you dare Use Staten Island and Rhode Island in the same sentence, unless you're saying Rhode Island is far superior to Staten Island.

There's a reason the Staten Island Ferry is free to get to. Winner of Brad Riddell and Gillespie. Are they fighting? Are they fighting? I don't think so. Gregor Gillespie is not booked. Yeah. Brad Rodell?

That'd be a great surprise. I hope they put that fight. I'll be. I'm really high. I'm really high on Brad Riddell. like I think he's he is legit and he's a super well-spoken individual he's from the back he's obviously from the city kickboxing camp and I am super high on Brad Riddell

yeah if you if Jeremy K is like yeah they should fight and then the winners yeah sure that I'm fine with all of that but yeah I don't mind Benile versus and I don't mind Benile versus Kevin Lee I think if you're going to fight anybody behind you that's probably like the one guy you'd want to fight right he probably is like the biggest name in that like at that point Kevin Lee's Kevin Lee sits in front of him right now so I Aikinta would be above him which who beat Kevin Lee so maybe that one but fellow has been calling for I can'ta for a long time too

been he'll have to go up stuff I agree Gillespie redells apparently my guys this is a very strong source I found this on a sure dog forum post which is quoting an Instagram post which itself is quoting an Instagram supposedly quoted Gillespie's Instagram live that they are in the works

for February 13th. So, I mean, essentially booked, essentially booked. So we apologize, yeah, for not being aware that that would be a lot. It's true. February 13th? Very strong source.

February, yeah, you know, UFC 258 on, yeah, next week, right? Big of Jesus. Yeah, you know, maybe. Hey, by the way, we're adding this other fight. Maybe that source isn't as strong as it looks. You know, the fire that's stuck in New Zealand right now

is going to fight in like a week. Yes. Is this it for Michael Johnson? Bellator next, BKFC. I like how BKFC has just become the third option. Yeah, so prestigious. They got money, man. They got money.

Go to WCW. I don't know. Why would Bellator be interested in Michael Johnson? To make fighters look to have to get fighters big wins. over people that some of that people know. He's experienced. He's talented. Look,

uh, so Jed and I, Jed Mishu and I was trying to message. This guy beat Dustin Porreier and now he's fighting Patricke Pitbull. And Tony and Tony Ferguson. Uh, we, uh, I was talking to Jed and I was like, and I'm sorry, and in my predictions, I said, look, we all know the Michael Johnson story. Okay. Oh, yeah, he's a great fighter.

And then he always finds a way to like miss and the, you know, do something, make some mistake in the final round. And I'm like, but I said, that. will not happen against Clay Queda. I said Clay Gwita does not have the finishing power to make that happen. Michael Johnson will be fine. Sure enough in the third round. And by the way, this is some serious backseat couch potato jujitsu here. He was a little sloppy getting up near the end of the fight and it gives up his back to Clayquita and that was that pretty much sealed the deal. There was, there was no recovering from that. And he goes on to lose the decision. And no, dude, Michael Johnson.

He might have lost anyway. Michael Johnsavy, Ardum 2, Knucklemania 2. Yes. Oh, there we go. I mean, that's, and that's why BKFC is the third, arguably second best option for a lot of these guys leaving the end. Winner fights Jason Knight. Jason Knight is returning to M.M.A.

He's fighting Friday? Yeah, he's spending Friday night for UFC Fight Pass for Icon Fighting Federation. Jason Knight is on that guy. I think he's the main event. I think the UFC got ready to do. He's making some moves. But Michael Johnson, Michael Johnson felt 19 and 17 in his career, 11 and 13 in the UFC, 9 and 11 at lightweight.

O and 3, I think, since he returned to lightweight, has not won at lightweight in over, almost over four years since knocking on Justin Porier, September 2016. So, boy, I don't, you know, it's a good question. I honestly don't know what to do. I still think he's talented. I still think he can be in there. there with almost anyone in the UFC. But if he's not winning, he's not winning.

So, yeah, some decisions definitely have to be made. I'll leave it to you guys. I don't know if I have a call on this one yet. Yeah, four losses in a row. What's that? Like nine of his last 12 he's lost. I mean. Yeah.

And this loss felt a little different. This loss felt different because I felt like he was losing the striking too at the beginning. He was getting hit a lot. He was getting hit a lot. I think he just got caught off like Clay Goetheed just came out guns, blazing. I think he caught everyone off card. But how do you not?

He did the guys to go over the leg, come up to overhand. You know, that's how he got hit with that. I mean, it's kind of a classic move. But, yeah, but usually, you know, Michael Johnson's this kind of thing is like, oh, he looks really good, really good till he doesn't. And I felt this fight he just actually didn't look good thing. I don't know, nothing really kind of stuck out. I mean, if it wasn't Michael Johnson in there, it was just some guy,

I don't think we would definitely, we won't even talk about his performance at all. so yeah yeah the vet's had a bad night I mean he had Clay and Clay and one amount to have a decent night

I guess to fighting each other but for the most part the UFC bets and then too fair too well how about Clay Guida getting on the microphone

and he says give me an up and comer give me a prospect yeah they were reversed they reversed Derrush the reverse Derruch I don't want to be in the top fight

at someone in the top five And now he's going to have to fight like Sarukyan or somebody. I was thinking that. He's going to fight. He'll love it. Did he call him out? He's going to fight Raphael. He's going to fight Raphael Fiziv.

I already called him on Twitter. Oh, man. You know, that's a fight that Piziziz needs because you need that rindy guy like Cleeguia is always going for your ankles, always just pushing you into the gauge. I said, it's a good fight. I said Guida should fight Fiziv. I will also accept Armin Sarukian or the winner. of Don Madge and Guram. Any of those guys I'm down for.

Because those guys all bring it. And then if whoever doesn't fight Clay Guida, the others fight each other. Armin Saruki versus I, because I think I'm super high on Gurum because I was so high on Gamron and Gurum was so impressive that I think he beats Don Madge and then Armand versus

Gurum is an awesome scrap. Give him, Gammon. Does Gamra have a fightbooked right now? Not that I'm aware of. Gamera would be a good scrap too, but he's coming off an L, so I didn't want to give Clay Gwita He's coming off a win, snapping his win streak. Don't want to throw him in some against a super talented prospect that doesn't have a win in the UFC.

But I mean, I wouldn't say no to the fight. I have no idea. Not medically clear that's just the official. Yeah, we'll look into it. But I mean, look, he took this. He also took a, he was the one. He was also less than a week's notice, I think, right? Yeah.

Yeah. Public was, because at least to the public, I knew on Sunday that Ascar was in. I couldn't say anything, but I knew on Sunday, Ascar was in. Yeah, he replaced Andre Ewell, who had a positive COVID-19 test. So that we do know, that came out. Ascar, but anytime you take a fight on this short notice, there's like a lot of things. I don't think it's anything serious.

I just think there's stuff you have to pass in medicals. And after a weight cut, there's just maybe certain benchmarks he didn't hit. I would be surprised with something serious. I don't mean to downplay whatever the reason was if it does turn out to be something worse than I'm suggesting here. But I think, again, you take a fight on short notice. You cut a lot of weight sometimes when it comes time again.

You have to do that last medical check. They're just like, you know, you're just not quite ready to do it. So I'm hoping and I'm thinking and I'm hoping it's something fairly innocuous. And now we have Cody Stamen looking for an opponent. And I saw somebody suggest this on Twitter. I think Hione Barcelos needs a new opponent on February 27th. I love that fight. I love that.

Thurst Damon in that fight. That's an awesome fight. I'm game. Yeah, I'm game for that. Let's do it. I was so, if she was looking forward to Andre Yule, because he promised me he was going to walk out to my name is Willie from any given Sunday. And I was so hyped for him. Tristan Gorda.

What about Gwita versus Jordan Levin? I don't like that fight. I'm not a fan. I don't like a, yeah. Slow roll, Jordan. Gita would. Greta would love it. That's exactly what he wants right now.

Both of these individuals will fight anyway. Yeah. Not yet. I like the idea of just slow rolling Levitt. Like give him some wins. I mean, he's still super young and green. I don't know if you know. ClayGuit is 39.

Different weight classes between Gweed and Elkins, right? He's 39. Gwita's gone down to 45. They can meet it. Elkins can come up. No, they both train in Alpha male. they're not going to fight each other. Okay.

It'd be fun though. They fight every day. Yeah. Guys, 39 years old. Do you see how he was moving in there before and after, during and after the? Former Strike Force champion, Clay Guida. Oh my gosh. It's the same as it was when we saw him, he has the same demeanor, the same routine.

It's just amazing to watch. I don't know. Leader. What a, yeah, Clay Guida releasing a tremendous belch in the middle of that fight, too. a lot of Joanne Calderwood as you do Alex Kaylee versus Ariel Hawaiian winner becomes the new leader of Canada

Isn't he from New York? Isn't he from New York? There's a rumor he's from Montreal Montreal. That's not part of Canada either, so I'm kidding. Oh, wow. Wow. I love my goodness.

There's a rumor he's from Buffalo now. Oh, gosh, let's see him more. No, no, no. Yeah, look, hey, Music 598, you put out the money. I guarantee me in there it will be totally down for it. For, for sure, a bear knuckle, I think I prefer a bear knuckle over our May. But music five and eight, just don't play basketball against him. Is he really good?

He was very good basketball. He says he's really good. No way. I'm sorry, I believe it, but I believe him better than him. I play, I played some basketball film about five or six years ago. He's serious about it. You know, he's one of, he's, when Ariel starts, it starts moving and like starts jibbling that then is kind of his motions make sense but like

if you ever see a arrow just kind of go for a jog you know he's just like you just you know it you know but like with good basketball then like you get it you know you get he's good at basketball for a 30-something year old journalist sure I'd say the same for myself uh also I'm terrible at one-on-one so I would need my squad I would need to bring Jose I would need to like let me run point let he can run point for his team and I'll run point for my team, and I think I can beat him. Dude, I love setting up picks and crashing the boards. That's all. I don't need to shoot.

I just want to. Oh, perfect. Perfect. Oh, that's exactly what we need. I'm that guy. I'm that guy. And I want to guard their toughest guy. Whoever their best guy is, I want it on him.

That's all I want. I just want to. You are assigned. You are assigned, my friend. He's the Dennis Rodman of the team. I love it. Jose, you're a scorer probably, right? You try to score.

Yes. Yeah, I need that. I need that too because I'm not a fine. But if you really want to win, you have to get fair Hanoon on your team because she's the best basketball. I would sign. Hopefully if I can sign. Yeah.

I'm so good at basketball. Like I was, I ball with her the first fight island and she's just like, because you could tell she doesn't get a lot of conversation about like the NBA in Egypt. So she was talking like just bring up all of these just like because she's a big son's fan because she's a big son's fan because she's. Oh, we've talked about it before. And I'm from Phoenix. Yeah.

And she's just bringing up like the most random games. I'm like, and she was just like, cross, cross, fade away three. I was like, Jesus Christ.

Oh, I love that fair. Why are you covering MabD? Go be a professional basketball player. She's like, she takes you from half a way. Dan Marley. That's all right.

Old school. And Marley's right down the street from me. No way. It's under Dan. Yeah. Except the font, whoever, if anyone is like really big in a fonts,

it's not the best. So if you see it from a far, way, you would think it's called McGorkels, not Marley's. Because he spells it like a psychopath. Okay, this is, we, this wasn't an answer. How long have been going for? Too long, but we're going still. All right, fair enough.

There was no press conference, I don't think, right? So we kind of, yeah, I saw that. Yeah, Terrence, I don't think it was a fart. Casey, you, was it you? Wait, wait, why? You're the fart expert. Casey, you're the fart expert. Someone put a screen shot in my feed of all these, like, responses.

Yeah, yeah. Was it during the Edwards, the Edwards host of fight? I don't know what bite it was, yeah, but there was a, um. I watched, I've been watching fights on mute lately, so I have no idea. There was a very loud noise on the broadcast. I would have said more, sounding more like something like Velcro, almost like a loud, almost a Velcroy noise, but I could see how you can interpret. it as perhaps someone, you know, passing gas, as it were, on air.

That's what, that seemed to be the popular theory. Yeah, so if you were on Twitter, my entire feed was like, fart, who farted? That was D.C. D.C. farted. Oh, D.C. let one go. So, yeah. So the answer is D.C. That is the official answer.

Yeah, Danorourmet farce. Oh. My credentials get revoked. How dare you're out. It's a gone. Dude, someone said in the comments, and I hadn't even thought of it, completely unrelated to farts, Overeign versus Fador for Fador's retirement fight. Ooh.

Oh, that's terrific. Yes, finally. Finally. I wish so Fadour, I'm speaking to you, I know you said your fight against Rampage was the last time you'd fight in Japan. That has to change. You got to fight Overeem in Japan inside Tama. Sorry, pal. It has to be done.

By the way, you know how I know it wasn't D.C.? He would have joked about it if it was. I think he would have joked about it. He's very like, one, not afraid to make fun of himself. And two, when stuff happens on the broadcast, he like reacts to everything. So I think if it was him, he would have said it. So I don't think it was D.C. No, I don't think.

Everybody blaming D.C. It's unbelievable. He would be very aware if it happened and that people were talking about it, he would address it. He would have addressed it during the show. I guarantee it. He loves talking about that stuff. What did he do?

Like take his headset off and like sit on it? Like, well, like, I mean, I don't know. Geez, Louise. No. You've been inside that? He's going to echoing, man. Take up. True.

True. I didn't think we'd be talking about it. There are parts in the apex when we got the tour where you can, it's like that weird thing where if you could be having a normal conversation across the room and someone could hear it all the way over there in like a very specific spot. You know what I'm talking about? Like that week, like it happened. There's a lot of museums like that, you know, farting is a feeling.

Bratman Farting is a feeling. Oh, that might be the comment of the night. The comment of the night based on the maybe the promo of the last decade. And that's how we ends. All right, guys. The entire staff is officially retired. We had almost for the last hour, I think. I think we had almost a thousand people watching.

So I say this every time. But man, you guys watching are the friggin' best. But this is a very good fight night car. So I'm glad it sounds like a lot of people tuned in and not tuned into our show. Yeah, this is great. I love doing this. I love you guys who I'm doing the show with

and I love all the people watching. It's so much fun. Just that whole comment, like all of it, between the picture and just what it says and thinking of Britain hard, like all of that came together. Just amazing. God, that's phenomenal.

Wow. I don't know. We have to leave it at that. So thank you very much for watching all of you crazy people. Hope you guys enjoyed the festivities. A.K. and I are back tomorrow. Subscribe on the podcast network for On to the next one, which has become a very popular show on the podcast network,

which we appreciate very much. And then wrap things up with all the other shows and all that good stuff as we get you ready for UFC 258 next Saturday. Kamara Usman versus Gilbert Burns for the Walterway title is the main event. For A.K. Jose E. Casey Leiden, I am Mike Eck. Good night, everybody. Listening to the Vox Media Podcast Network.