MMA Fighting - UFC Vegas 25 Post-Fight Show

Episode Date: May 2, 2021

With UFC Vegas 25 in the books, MMA Fighting’s Mike Heck, Jose Youngs, Alexander K. Lee and E. Casey Leydon break down the top storylines following Saturday night’s event at the APEX, including a candidate for KO of the Year in the finish of the main event between Jiri Prochazka and Dominick Reyes. Follow Mike Heck: @MikeHeck_JR Follow José Youngs: @JoseYoungs Follow Alexander K. Lee: @AlexanderKLee Follow E. Casey Leydon: @ekc Subscribe: http://goo.gl/dYpsgH Check out our full video catalog: http://goo.gl/u8VvLi Visit our playlists: http://goo.gl/eFhsvM Like MMAF on Facebook: http://goo.gl/uhdg7Z Follow on Twitter: http://goo.gl/nOATUI Read More: http://www.mmafighting.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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especially if you are a newer fan to our crazy sport of mixed martial arts. No matter how a card is going, from the beginning to the co-main event, you stick it through. Because if you stuck this one through, you were treated to two ultra-trial. ultra-violent finishes, including Yuri Perashka. I thought he killed Dominic Reyes. I thought he actually killed the man with that spinning back elbow. That was absolutely ferocious.

Yuri Perhashka is about to fight for a UFC title in his third fight. This is unbelievable. What a crazy ending to UFC Vegas 25, and we are here to talk to all of you, all about this crazy card. Wow. I don't even have any more words to say about that. that finish from Yuri Perashka. That was a crazy-ass-fight.

I think we get a fight of the year, front-runner. I think we have a knockout of the year front-runner. And it's just May 1st right now. Unbelievable. Anyways, I am Mike Eck, being joined right now by Jose Youngs. Up guys. I'm also why, also Andrew Reeves just won. Oh.

So everyone won't know. I was very, people were excited for that. And that fight was bananas. So after this, go read all of our stuff. at anime fighting.com and then go watch the highest of that fight because that fight was bananas and a lot closer than a shirt of rent.

Yeah, I saw that Ruiz got dropped in the second round and then this main event started and good God. Casey Lairola was two. At one point, Ariel was 50 to one. And he was winning of the fight at one point. Combat sports.

You just never know what you're going to get. Casey's here. I don't know if AK is here yet. I'm here. A.K. He's goofing off. Probably doing work and writing articles. Yeah.

Writing articles, yes. All right, Casey. You nailed this one. Yuri Perashka gets it done. And what's crazy about that fight is he looks so good in the first. Reyes kept throwing heaters at him, was landing big shots. And Perashka was just like, okay. He would like point at him every once in a while.

And then in the second round, Reyes, Reyes, Reyes stung him, had him on doing the chicken dance. And Reyes decided, nope, I'm just going to jump on him, get this thing to the ground. When he could have stepped back, maybe the fight would have gone a little differently. But Perashka showing excellent strides on the ground, beat up Reyes. Reyes got back to his feet. And then All Hell broke loose once again. And Perashka finished this fight as violently as you could possibly imagine.

What did you think of Yuri Perashka's performance tonight? is just this is unbelievable. I've been on the year he kind of trained for a little bit and even I was I'm continually shocked by how exciting and violent his fights are.

I mean if his chin is that durable oh my goodness I cannot wait for him I mean he's just to be so hard to be and I mean he absolutely had to earn a title shots and I know everyone's like oh two UFC fights man screw that

he's false We fought plenty of dudes. The guy came in ready to fight for a title. We saw it against Volcon, deaded Volkan, deaded Reyes, and he's fighting for the title next. And I was just kind of laughing to myself when like, you know, you know, Bizbing, he was like, oh, you can't fight for your hands down like that. I was like, dude, the guy is one fight away from fighting for a title fighting that way.

That's what got him to the dance. That's what's going to get him to know the title shot. Let the man fight that way. is this the smartest no way to fight considering how many shots he was taking I mean that chin won't hold up forever like that but

until his chin goes good God man Yuri is going to be one tough cookie to beat so exciting Jose Jose like I can't even describe it like Dominic Reyes after that first round just the whole thing shout out to our good friend

Jeff Batari who was about, like, if you haven't seen the photo, I just tweeted it out. He was like an inch away from the blow. Dominic Gray's looks dead and like dead. And I know we love Esther and I think she's the best of the best, but I would put Jeff right there behind her. And my God, did he capture just, you want to see a dead body type of moment? But yeah, Jerry, I mean, I was tweeting it out.

I'm like, I don't know how this guy is eating these punches. like his ability to just say, F it, and just start flailing around, and not just flailing, but like connecting with a thousand different punches, is terrifying. And the fact that he didn't get tired, he was taking damage,

but doling out damage is horrifying. It's like classic Tony Ferguson style where nothing he's doing should be working, but it is. And it's working so violently. And like, we all agree, Dominic Reyes is an elite fighter. Like the one of the best fighters on planet Earth.

Anthony Pettis is the same thing. Highfield Dosanos, same thing. Like Tony Ferguson is beating him, beating those guys. And I'm watching the highlights on my TV right now. That's why I'm looking up. And he's beating them. And you're like, how is this guy doing what he's doing and why is it working? That's the vibe I got from Jerry Pulaska, where after the first round, I'm like,

oh, he can't keep this up for four more rounds. And then he just decapitated a human being on national television. And imagine if this fight was on ABC. come on. I know. Bananas fight. Bananas fight. And like I said at the beginning, like, I was watching the Andrew Ruiz aerial fight. And then I was also watching the UFC. I'm like, wow. But like, because remember we were talking about like the trailer was the same day as Whitaker Gaslin?

I'm like, God, just the worst card for counterprogramming. Then like the Andrew Euse aerial fight started in the first two rounds, I was like, oh, this is just, this is the same thing. The UFC has terrible luck with counter programming major, like high level, like this is high level. And then this main event happened or kick jacazi and then the main event happened. I was like, all right, night saved. But my God, Yuri is a horrifying man. I would.

I get, I completely get if he wants the title shot next and the UFC wants to make, have him wait. But if Glover and Jan are fighting in September and Yuri wants to get another one quick and get another paycheck, I wouldn't hate if him and Ratchik were the co-main event of that car, just so Yuri or Ratchett could be the sky. standby. So like, you know how we, we talked about that in Houston when they booked Corey Anderson and Jan the week after? And we were like, why is this not the co-main? So they can all be on the same timeline. So main event, title fight, co-main event, number one contender fight slash standby,

light heavyweight division is very exciting now. Hi, AK. How are you, my friend? Oh, hello, everyone. What a main event that was. That was something else. That is an understanding. Jesus. Can you, can you, can you, can you, can you, explained to me, AK. And like, we saw this throughout the fight, like within the first minute.

Dominic Reyes looked like he got hit with a sledgehammer at the end of that first round. Like, it was brutal. And somehow, even after he got wobbled and in big trouble, Yuri Perashka actually looked better like when the fight was over. Like, his face looked better.

It was like shinier. It just looked better. Like, how is this possible? How is this possible? I think he's got that BJ Penskin. I think it's like he doesn't, He doesn't bleed, it doesn't crack. Like you said, the punches almost almost like, I won't say sandpair, but that's not, that's not right.

I'm buffing, sorry, the punches are almost buffing his face. They're buffing his lovely face. And as you said, kind of having him come out even freshly than he did before, he sort of said in the interview with Paul Felder afterwards that he was kind of like, oh, you know, he wish he hadn't gotten hit so much. But I just said, Mike, you almost couldn't tell, you know. the guy is an anomaly. He's an enigma. I mean, whatever word you want to use for saying this guy is one of a kind. He's almost the evolutionary Keith Jardine as far as people saying, like, oh, his style,

like it doesn't look like it should work. And it's like, how is he landing some of these strikes from the angles he's throwing from? But he's got a lot more power than I think Jardine used to have. And again, I think the technique is even more evidence. I think I was still surprised. We were talking about this before the show that the comment. during the Ozdemir fight last time, they were kind of like, oh, what's this guy doing?

He's getting into trouble. And I thought they were done with that. But even tonight, they were like, oh, he should get his hands up and it looks cool, but I mean, is he really effective. And he was like lighting Reyes up. And I'm like, what are they talking about? His style is what it is. I mean, you might want to say no one else to try it.

But for Yuri Prohachka, it is clearly the perfect style. It's kick-ass style, which I mean, which you can't argue against. I would give all four bonuses to Yuri for Ashka. You got to give Giga Chakazza, obviously one of the bonuses, but it's, I mean, these are probably the easiest bonuses we've ever picked. It's Giga, it's Yuri, and then the fight of the night is... The main event.

Yuri and Ray is... Yeah. It's... For Camaca and Brown. Or for Kamaka, yeah. Yeah, seriously. Camaca. Cajara. Yeah, seriously. Poor Kamaka. Geez, get screwed over, and...

I feel bad... Oh, that fight... Was that fight today? You can say it. It's it. I feel bad Brown because that was an amazing fight. but he didn't win the fight. Yeah, it was funny about... Yeah, what's funny about that whole thing is Eric Nixick was not happy with the judges.

And then after Giga Chikatee finished Cub Swanson, Eric Nixit goes on, he goes, Adelaide Byrd still scored the round for Cub Swanson. But Adelaide Byrd was the one judge who gave it, who gave the 30 to 27 to come on. Delete his fighter. Delete the tweet. I know.

I know. I get the joke, but you missed it. You missed it. I saw a bunch of people saying that, though. I tweeted immediately. I said, I think Adelaide Byrd got this one right. And I saw a lot of people, not in response to me, just in general in the line saying, like, oh, Adelaide Byrd struck again.

And I couldn't tell if they just didn't agree with the 3027 call or they just assumed that she scored a 3027 for Brown. Because, again, look, we give Adelaide Bird a lot of criticism. I think a lot of it justified. I think she was at least, even if you don't agree with the 3027, I think she picked that fight right. I think Kamaka won, and she had the 3027 Kamaka. So let's give out of late bird a little bit of a break tonight, I think. Yes. And we have a robbery review.

I assume coming. Yes. I think we have to. I think we have to. The people have demanded it. So, okay. So at this point, I love the comments coming in from everyone watching and stuff.

But guys, stop saying Dominic Reyes sucks or he's got a glass chin or all that all rap. That's just, you're saying that. You guys are being just wrapping M.A. fans. Just bad M. fans. He fought in a freaking war tonight and he lost. That's all that happened. He lost to maybe the best 205 are in the world. We don't know yet. But that's all. Don't stop saying that

Dom Reyes sucks. You guys are just being jerks. It's just that's all. I just got to get that out of my system. This is a good car. I don't care who you are. Yeah. I don't care who you are. You're getting knocked out by that spinning back. I mean, that was clean. And Reyes landed a lot of shots that I think would have dropped or at least wobbled a lot of other light anyways, but not not Prasca. And again, not just because Prasca has a great chain. I do think he has a gift also for sort of slipping shots and making, you know, sort of almost

like Andrew Szilby used to do where it's like, it looked like it landed clean, but if you know, he knows what he's doing and probably didn't land as cleanly as we thought. So that kind of gift. But I thought this card like was good. I thought, we all set on paper, this looks like a lot of competitive fights and we got a lot of competitive fights. And there's maybe

a couple of, maybe a couple of snoozers. But that's okay. That happens on every like a lot of any mMA card i don't know just say uc and like any mma card so i actually thought this card was really but think was capped off by two super exciting like finishes yeah i mean i think it's it's tough when the first fight is really good and really interesting because the first fight of the night between luke sanders and uh calaris was crazy and then like it's hard to like follow that up and i think that's what a lot of these fighters had to deal with and then we had like the one finish before the co-main event was the DQ.

Which obviously, we don't call it a finish, right? That's a finish. It's not a finish. I mean, the fight finished. It's not a finish. Stoppage, a stoppage. And then we had a split draw. And it's like, oh, man, like this is just a wild night.

And then, of course, last. And Marcus Pinero was really exciting, I think, up until that horrible foul. That was, that was looking like it was going to be a really good fight as well. Which fight? The Pinero, Marco's fight. That was a good fight up until the DQ. I thought Marcos was going to say she couldn't see. I thought Mark, I thought they were going to wave it off then.

She had a big old cut on her eyelid too. I was like, dang. I'm sure we'll get to that later, but yeah. There's just so much talk about. I mean, I saw people griping about the card. I honestly, I mean, I thought for a fight night, I thought it was an above average fight night for sure. I thought it was a good fight night on paper, and I thought it delivered.

So, yeah, listen, we had UFC, we had UFC 261. a week ago. Following that is like impossible. Oh yeah. But I thought all things considered, this one did a pretty damn good job. Obviously, Prohashka's got options. If he wants to come back and take another fight, he can. If he wants to wait and fight for the belt, he can certainly do that. For Dominic Reyes, coming out of this one, he's last three in a row. This was a bad knockout. This is one of the worst, like just one of the worst knockouts, just from a aesthetic perspective that you're going to see.

the sport. I mean, it was just violence. He was down. It took him a while to get back to his feet. At this point, Casey, let me ask us, do we kind of like, do we give him the Calvin Cater treatment right now? We just, we don't want to see him for, for a while, like, keep him out maybe the rest of the year after a knock-all like that. Like, he's been knocked out viciously, two fights in a row. This one was really bad. Do we kind of just slow-roll him and let him take the rest of the year off? Yeah, well, it's going to be at least six months, for sure. sure. I mean, getting knocked out of, I mean, first of all, it wasn't like a, I want to say a flash knockout, say like when Wei Lee got knocked out last week. Was that last week? Yeah. Wow. Okay. When Wei Lee got knocked out, you know, that was kind of a flash knockout. And it's like, no, there wasn't a lot of, you know, cuss of brain damage, you know, it's just one shot, really. But, no, Ray has just took, you know, a full round of that beating. And then a lot way into the second round took a big beating. And just because he is, such a, you know, a giant heart, you know, and just continue fighting. But getting you of an elbow

like that, like that is just, that is, that's hard, man. I, yeah, I, that's a bad, that's a, it's a bad loss to your, for your body. Yeah, that's going to be a while for him to come back. And I know, and I hope, um, man, Don Marys, he's such, he's such, he's just a decent, he's a decent, dude, you know, and, uh, man, I feel bad for Don Marius. I mean, I, I, I feel bad for Don I mean, I was picking Yuri, but these guys are humans. You know, they're people. They have lives. They have families, friends, you know.

It's just, I just, I just, I was, I looked bad. I like that. That's a mean, mean, mean, mean, mean, mean, mean, mean, mean, mean, mean, elbow. I just went to the UFC news Twitter page just to see if the bonuses popped up. I mean, we already know what they're probably going to be. And I just saw the photo that Jose was talking about of Kraska landing that elbow. Oh my God. Go look at that picture. It's insane.

Well, dude, just a week ago, we were talking about knockout of the year and then look at this. You know, we are. This is right. I mean, this is the knockout of the air. I have no idea. I have no idea. And they're all right there. I mean, yeah. I mean, listen, if we're talking about like a, like, Ousman has like the one punch knockout of the air, no doubt about it. Yeah. But, I mean, a spinning back elbow, there's only been three of these in UFC history. history, who, good God. That was something else. And that was, that's a proper technique too.

That's, I mean, that's a, that's actually just a kind of a general, just regular Muay technique. As soon as you kind of come off, you kind of have your back to the guy, just swing that elbow around. And Reyes just was just, well, that's just, when you're beat up for that long, he just wasn't mentally there to go as soon as that back turns of your opponent, you know, hands up, hands up all the time. That was almost reminiscent of,

I mean, I know it wasn't elbow, but I think of like King Moe and Emmanuel and Newton, you know, kind of just backing away and just throwing that back fist, you know, it's just, I love, I love spinning shit. I love spinning shit. Does this mean Yuri, does that mean Yuri's going to get really into the Illuminati now? I'm pretty sure.

I'm pretty sure the Luminati is in his antenna. I'm sure that's where the Luminati lives. Because that is exactly, that's what happened in Emmanuel Newton after he got that knockout. Yeah. Casey, did you enjoy all the, the Christopher Jocko spinning stuff we saw? Because he was throwing some wild techniques. Some of them landed. I think he almost hit, almost kind of hit the yire elbow.

He did land. He did that. Yeah, yeah. That was cool. That was cool. But he was throwing some stuff. He was throwing some stuff. We had to.

It was stuff. It was stuff. I'll call it stuff. Yeah, we'll call it that. He knew he was technically, like, Victorum is a technically better strike. So I love that. He's like, you know what?

I'm not going to get picked apart here. I'm just going to throw stuff out and whatever. He ended up losing a decision anyway. It would have been the same if you tried to have like conservative, you know, striking style. And I love that. There was really some really enjoyable fights thing. Yeah. The bonuses are out.

They are what we thought they were. Fight of the night, main event, performances of the night, Phrashka and Giga Chikaze. say 50 G's for those gentlemen 100 G's for Yuri so I guess like for Dominic Reyes like if there is

a silver lining you got an extra 50 G's but man hopefully he is he does he comes back and you know he's all good and obviously positive vibes to Dominic Reyes after that fight yeah just for it's awesome

what about you? I mean just I know I know career wise he's bummed out but that's a yeah I'm literally I'm actually worried about Tom's hell. I think that was a beating, you know, just and to go out like that, poor guy that tough.

When they go out, that means they got hit hard. Good God. Yeah. That was a brutal one. Well, let's talk about Giga Chikaze. Finish his Cubbs Swanson in just over a minute.

I mean, come on. You guys, I mean, thank you. That's all I needed. Listen, I'm wrong sometimes.

Sometimes? This time I was on the island. I was on the island. I didn't expect. Geiga to stop Cub Swanson. I thought Giga would win a decision. I certainly didn't see him finishing Cub at a minute. But here we are.

Giga Chikaze gets a big win. What did you think, Jose? I mean, I'm a big mark for Giga Chikaze. Didn't think that would happen. Did I know he was capable of it? 100%, but man, I picked Cub to win

just because I thought strength of competition and I just showed you that every fight is different. because Gagia Chikaze, what? Didn't he start his UFC career with like two split decisions, victories? And then he even fought like a bantamweight in Jacksonville on short notice. And he fought that guy out of decision. And then he just got his first stoppage win, his last fight.

And then he beats Cubs Swanson faster and more dominantly than he did in any of his other previous fight. So the man's only getting better. I tweeted, I want to see him fight the winner of Burgos and Barbosa very badly. Don't know if that will happen. He called out Cater Holloway. Don't know if that will happen. I think Cater's obviously a more realistic opponent, but I still think Cater might be a little higher up in the rankings.

But if Cater just wants to get back in there against a red hot opponent, then F it. Gaya Gia Jekhazzi is literally. He's speaking on my TV right now as we speak. So, yeah, Gaget Jekazi rules. And I can't wait to see who he fights next. And I hope it's against a high-level striker that can match him technique for technique. Yeah, Giga took the old college application approach with his callouts.

Like he shot for Max Holloway, but then Calvin Cater was like his backup school, like the University of Calvin Cater. And he's probably not going to get either of those fights. I mean, because Cater, we probably won't see him until late fall, early winter,

November maybe. We'll see what happens. I'm hoping to get a chance to see those fine folks a week from today. That's the plan at this point. So maybe we'll get an update on Calvin and all that fun stuff. But what a performance when you get your God's a. I like your suggestion,

Mr. Heck, you put out there earlier. Oh, yes, yes, yes. Okay, so I know me and AK do the matchmaking thing, but, and maybe this won't happen now, but I feel like Featherweight isn't quite where Banimweight is, but I think it's pretty damn close. Like, you got, you get the heads up top,

you get the hallways and the, in the Vulcan. Oh, sorry. Punch. Oh, Mr. Heck, your, your, your, your Wi-Fi is. No, has betrayed us. Oh, no. Okay, take over.

Take over. What was he going to say? He was about to take us on a journey. Oh, there's back. You're back. You're back. You're back. You're back.

You're taking, you're, you started the journey. Continue. A match speaking journey. Yeah, I don't know. Yeah. Yes. Gia versus Abed.

I don't know if that's going to happen based on reports from Russia. Because I guess the beats leaning towards retirement, perhaps. Here's what. I was going to say, I was going to wait if someone asked a question. about Zabit specifically, but word around the Russian media when we were on Fight Island is like that was probably going to happen.

I'm honestly surprised the Zabit news came out so late because on Fight Island they're like Zabit's never going to fight again. That's what all the Russian media was saying then. So I lean towards him not fighting in the UFC ever again. Unfortunately. In the UFC or is he retiring?

Retiring. Retiring. Apparently the thing was he saw and this is what a bunch of them told me is Zabit saw how much Habib's life changed and the fame terrified him. He just saw how he couldn't leave his house without being recognized. And he goes, this is not what I want in my life. Wow. Crazy.

That's some serious deep look within themselves to make a decision like that. If that's true, I respect that so much. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. But the suggestion I put it on Twitter. if you guys misses. And I know, I'm sure we're not going to see this now because they don't like to put two prospects up against each other,

especially two guys like this. But sometimes you just got to see what happens. And I would love to see a stylistic matchup between Gigga Chikaze and Bryce Mitchell. Like that would just be a sick fight. Like the striking of a Chikaze. And I know Mitchell just fought Andre Fielian. And Andre Fieler is a very good striker in his own right. But he ain't Gigga Chikaze.

Gigacizade is an elite level kickboxer. And then Bryce Mitchell is just a suffocation machine on the mat. So I'd love to see how Giga would do it. And Giga fought Jamal Emers and had to deal with that in his second UFC fight. And Emers is a tough matchup for a lot of these guys who won 45. So I get that. There was a split decision. A lot of people thought Jamal Emers won that fight.

I thought Jamal Amher won that fight. But at this point, after a win like that, I would be really interested to see what that matchup would look like. I'm leaning more towards what Jose is thinking. I think we're going to see the winner of Barbosa-Bergos. fight giga chikaze but oh what about ryan hall that would be interesting too we don't know what the hell's happening with him we don't know if the alia tuporia fight is is a real thing or not we haven't been able to confirm ryan hall's side of that fight so i don't even know if that fight's

happening but if it's not i like it i like an option i like i like i just want ryanaut if i don't care who just okay i'm so i'm okay oh um but referring back to your internet issues. Suzanne. I need that. I need that AOL. I need that AOL landline stuff. See, A.K. knows what's going.

A.K. knows what's up. Yeah, I see. You get it. But damn good win for Giga-Giccacaze. Super impressive stuff. Gets it done. He wanted the name. He wanted the step up. He got it. And he delivered, man. That's all you can ask for. Oh, I just would say, and super highly technical kick.

Set it up at the high roundhouse, then went to the body, it was just great, and then it was very similar to a, I don't know if all the fans remember of Cuckuno, he fought in dream. But that Cucano kick, that kind of hits the ball of the foot right at the kind of kidney rib area.

And those things hurt so much. They're really actually hard to kick because if you throw the kick, it just kind of feels unnatural, and it feels like it can break your toes when you kick into the body like that. But if you do it right, it hurts so much. And, yeah, actually, a year and a half ago, I was up at training up at Jackson's in Albuquerque.

And they were kicking me over and over just to try out the kick. And the next day, my entire body was just covered in bruises just from practicing the kick. So it's kind of such a tough dude, you know, so yeah. That is a vicious now the Giga kick. but yeah I'd never heard Swanson make a sound like that before

because there was like an audible like he got hit and it's in the apex of course you're going to hear you know we're back in the you know with no fans it was like it's like

I can't even I can't even replicate it but then one more time you don't you don't you don't share fighters it was it was like it's like

you don't hear fighters I know I change it every time so you know put those three together and you had some idea of the sound that's come made you just don't hear of fighters if you act like that.

I mean, that's how you know it was, it was, I really wish the referee had jumped in a little bit sooner because, I mean, Cove wasn't getting back up. You know, if, if, if Giga had backed up, I mean, it was going to be over. He didn't need to do the fall of the trial. And I don't blend that I'm saying, I'm not Giga,

it's not Giga, the fact that the referee didn't step in. If I'm giga, I'm like, well, I can't take any chance to have to go on an end strike. But yeah, that's how accurate, how accurate that was. And I think, uh, the fight was, what, 763 seconds. I think breaking down those seconds be really fun.

Yeah. It's going to be really fun breaking those down, like you said, how he set it up. Because a lot happened, actually, in that first minute. Just looking at what they both, like, you know, again, like he said, his movement and how he said everything. I mean, it was a beauty to watch. Yeah, he's just so good from the outside. And if you can't get in there, man, he'll just pick you apart like that all night long. Apparently, Giga is calling out everybody.

He said, Max, now he wants to fight next week. And even added Yai Rodriguez's name to the mix. So, Oh, Giga. Yeah, yeah, that is an excellent fight too. Do you think Giga's going to be one of those guys that, because he obviously wants to fight someone ahead of him, you know,

you know, ahead in the rankings? Who do you think is willing to take that fight, though, to fight someone, you know, that, that risky, basically, you know, high risk, low reward. Gotta be a guy that is coming off an L that's still highly ranked like a Calvin Cater that,

or like what crap like a Dominic Reyes against Yiri. Like Yeri is so dangerous and unknown, but he's coming off back to back losses that he just can't afford to say no at that point of his career. It's got to be something like that.

Cater's probably the guy. It's just not going to happen. A.K. You know, A.K. Real quick. Can you block? Can you block? No, we're not. I was saying. We just, we got to start ignoring it. Just block it. He just want this.

this child just wants attention. I'm going to fill you in on how the millennials talk. Pretty much anyone born post-19, pretty much anyone born post-190 just wants attention, and they're going to say whatever they want to get attention. So you did yourself a disservice by giving this individual attention, because now he won't do it. That is how social media works. A lot of people tweet nonsense because what do they want, gentlemen? Oh, man.

Attention. So don't give you. it to them. Jose has gone in. If anyone else born pre-190 needs another lesson in how the internet works, Professor Jose Young's here to help. You have gone in on social media today.

And I applauded. I mean, I'm not, I think you've spoken a lot of truths today, sir. But Casey, regarding who's going to take, who take a fight with Giga? I mean, buddy, you just need a savage. You know what I was taking that call. One, Jeremy Steven. He's available.

I'm just saying he got to freed himself up. I heard he had a fight recently. It fell through for whatever reason. So I'm just saying he's ready to fight. I bet he'd be ready to fight next week. He is a savage. That's what Savage is. He's a savage.

They show, they fight every week. Yeah, so they obviously announced the Arizona card today, and I thought that Dracar close, Jeremy Stevens, would be a perfect ESPN headliner because Dracar obviously trains here in Phoenix, but if your car is not ready to come back, giga Jeremy Stevens on ESPN that as a featured prelim when is that what's the date for that June 12th it is so yeah don't worry Casey it's the week after Logan Paul Floyd Mayweather so you don't have to miss that

crisis awarded yeah Dracar when I speak with Dracar we've mentioned July or August we did yeah and we just saw a comment that's a they want to see Josh Fabia against Jack Paul. Whoverd, the stepbrother. Can I read this?

Can I read this brilliant suite that I just want to fall? I'm sorry, it's not if I really, but I want to follow up on Jose's caucus. I think he's hitting stick here. And I know we do a lot of these shows and this is going to get lost in the ether. But there was a tweet from a guy named Ed Latimore. This is earlier this week where he wrote, he said, a lot of people are A-Holes. He didn't say A-Hole on Twitter because they're dealing with unresolved trauma. hear their words cause a reaction that gets them attention they can't get in their real life

and attention and love look the same to someone not used to receiving either so i'm not saying that's what happened with today's troll but uh i thought i think that's kind of reflects sort of a lot of what uh what Jose is saying so something to think about think about that tweet at time at jem chou jenn miss shoe what oh no we're not naming names we're not naming i did we're not naming names i did i just happened to false when i was saying it this is a place of love and understanding. You may want to get that cough checked out. This is a place of love and understanding.

We're all are welcome. We needed like the old school NBC, the more you know graphic in the background. After you read that AK. Bung, bung, bung. Zombie versus Giga. That's fun.

Zombies books against Danny Gay. Oh. That's right. Well, yeah. We know that. Yeah. Featherweight. Featherweight.

Featherweight thumps. Anything between. between 135 and 170 absolutely rules right now. Yeah, I can't wait for that featherweight title fight in 2023. And Bant and Banton waits again today. Brighan, yo, Rob and Cody. God, what a competitive, what a high level, just super competitive fight. Like, oh, stop skipping down, stop skipping the fight.

Oh, I'm sorry. Oh, I'm sorry. I thought we were, okay. I broke the format of the show. Oh, yes. Our man. Come here. Oh, yes.

Mike, get us back on your. Mike, get us back on track, I'm sorry. Okay, so we talked about the co-main event. We got the split draw. Iwan Kutalaba, Dustin Jacoby. There you have it. Did we agree with this bit draw? I scored it a draw.

So did I find with the draw. But that first round had to be a 10-8, right? Yeah. Yeah. So I had 10-8 and 10-9-1-10-A-round. Yeah, actually. And only one judge did it. Only one judge just gave him a 10-8.

Yeah, I scored the third round for Kudilaba, but I probably wasn't paying attention. It was competitive. It was competitive. I think I would have given to the last two, but I don't think that's crazy at all. Okay, okay. I thought, because I saw everyone had it,

either 28, 28, 28 or, I have no issue of that. But what I do have an issue with is, while I'm not one of those, I hate draws, what sucks is the UFC, and this is promoters in general, not doing UFC in particular,

they treat it like a loss in the sense that they only get paid their show money. So the UFC just saved, the UFC saved, you know, a buck to, So that kind of sucks. So, you know, draws are, you know, fine, but they go home, like it's a loss. So that sucks.

Yeah, here's my one issue with the scores. And it wasn't, like the 2928 was somewhat egregious for Kudalaba. I didn't, like, it wasn't a disaster scorecard. Giving Giga, I mean, given, not Giga, giving Iwan Kutalaba, the second row was disastrous. No way he won the second round. Yeah. Yeah, that's what one of the, I think the judge scored, the judge scored for Kudalaba gave him one and two. Oh, that's a bad score then.

Okay, that's a bad, yeah. Yeah. It was a third round that was kind of a toss-up, we thought. And if the first round, I was at 10-8. So, see, if Rob Tatum was a judge, easy 10-8. Mike Bisping's favorite, favorite MMA Twitter personality, Rob Tatum. Shout us to Rob Tatum. No, everyone likes Rob.

It's good for Rob. Rob. Rob got the rub. So yeah, that was a draw. It seemed like we even got a glove touch at the beginning of the third round after all the hostility at the face-offs. So that was nice to see. It looks like they have squashed the beef, but they should just run that damn thing back because that was fun.

Sean Strickland, good win over Christoph Jocko. Does it really? There you go. Does it move him? I think he kind of stays the same, whatever ranking he was. I don't think it really, it just kind of, all right, it happened. You got a win, got a nice paycheck.

but I don't think we did we learn anything from Strickland? Did he not talk much? Did he not talk much tonight? Am I crazy? Was he not talking? No, he was he was much more subdued all around.

Oh yeah, yeah. Yeah, definitely. Like even the post-fight interview, like remember we were talking about his goofy like post-fight interview with Bisping? He was pretty much just like, I'll fight whoever. Like that's all he said.

Like, dude, at least make his hate you. Say something that makes us want to watch and fight. I love being a UFC fighter is what he said. I love being a UFC fighter. I wake up every day and I'm just like, oh, thank you. Thank you for making me a UFC fighter. I think Strickland's kind of in that kind of middle area where like he wants to kind of talk shit and, you know, do that thing. But then it just comes out very awkward.

And I don't know. It's like just just be your kind of weird, bro-y awkward self, Mr. Strickland. That's the way to go. just don't fake trash talk or anything or like you know brennan allen took the cowards away out by hillhooking and gentlemen you know no i was like oh i think i was on your side john strickland but um no good good win um i still don't i still don't you know people asked earlier you know is john strickland a future title contender nothing i saw tonight kind of said that but clearly he's a quality he's a quality middleweight and um it seems like he's coming to

that frame very well. Yeah, he should fight a rank guy. He's 15 right now. He's fight somebody else's top 15 next. I'd say, I like the Jacaree, the winner of Jacerre and his opponent, or the winner of who's Brad Tavares fighting, Akhmidov, Amari?

Yeah, aren't they like 14, 15? I think that that would be a good scrap too. Yeah, I think that'd be a good scrap too. Yeah, I think that'd be a good scrap. Unfortunately, Brandon Allen's probably like ranked right below him. He's not going to get that fight. Heinz would not be a bad fight either. That would just be a high action fight.

I like Heinish, yeah. I mean, there's an interesting 85 fight coming up next week, too. Docchus and Phil Haas. Like, if Docchus wins, Doccus and Strickland would be a pretty interesting fight. Ooh, Dawes and Bill Haas, that's a cool fight. Yeah, I like that. So that'll be fun.

Yeah. But I like the middleweight division, you know, outside, you know, we kind of had this, not bottleneck, but we kind of, the top five guys were kind of the same. same but no now the um the other the five through 15 guys are starting to really shift around and starting to make some moves so that's exciting and then uh kicking off the main card aka take this one my man marab de walesh willie gets a decision win over cody stamen it's amazing that marab is already in that stage where he knows he has an a plus skill his wrestling like whoever he's fighting he can

always go to his wrestling and try and get out of win so that's that's that's in the bank he's i think in the in the doughts in the fight too he also showed a bit of end up. So it's like he's having fun now and just like, well, I have this base and I can show some, you know, I can play around in the feet a little bit. You know, it's, of course, you never want to get in that range. We get to wake miss strength too much and gets like randomly knocked out by somebody. But his striking does look pretty good. You know, there's confidence. He's a good athlete. Stamen, I think was the right test for him. Again, a solid striker, not an overwhelming striker. So if it was someone that he wanted to, again, who did, he did want to try and show his striking

with, that's, that's the guy to do it. And also a good wrestler. So it's not, it's like, It's not like it's somebody he could totally dominate with his wrestling. I think he had five takedowns in total, which is a lot. But I believe it was Mike Carroll statistician extraordinaire on Twitter who said, like, that's the second least that Marab has had in a fight. So that would be like a career best for most people from Marab five takedowns. That was an off day. But I mean, he wasn't trying to rely on his wrestling.

And it was just a great scrap, you know, 135. We thought this would be a great matchup going in. And it just was so, again, I was already saying this. earlier. So, so, so high level. I mean, you gotta love this stuff. I thought it was such a fine opener. And I think Marab is the real deal. I mean, I'll be shocked, shocked if he never fights for a UFC total. Yeah, that's a good fight. And again, I, it was a tough read because, I mean, I felt like

if Stamen was going to, like, take that risk, you know what I mean? Like, he's just not a risk taker. He's just not that guy that's just going to do anything out of the ordinary. Like, what you see is what you get. He's solid everywhere. he's a very good fighter but he's just I don't know if you made like a list of pros and cons for Cody Stamen

like there's not a lot of cons there's like none he's just he's just a very good fighter like he's a very technical fighter he does everything right but that next gear for some reason is just not there

like Marab is just a freak you gotta do some like you have to have a special performance to beat that guy you gotta do something out of the ordinary Do you guys think Marab needs a finish before he really gets taken seriously by the matchmakers? Because, again, I think he's had some dominating wins. But I wonder, does he need that highlight real, like, you know, just even like a ground and pound TKO or some like a powerful submission?

Do you guys think he needs that before, you know, the magicers really go like, okay, let's elevate him in the top 10. Let's give him a dominant cruise. Do you think that matters? I think every fighter needs that before they get to, they get to that kind of those marquee names. to put him on a pay-per-view as a co-main or no but even as a fight night as a co-main you know he's not me he opened up a I mean ranking-wise this should have been the co-main tonight um stamen and marab but it wasn't because the like you said the matchmakers just as far as fan interest they don't feel it the pan-interest is there for those gentlemen even though they're you know ranking ranking wise outside of the main event they

shouldn't have been the co-main event so um yeah marob needs something he yeah he needs a he needs a big finish i mean i mean look at look at habib i mean mean when's that abeb need before he started we he was like a prelim guy forever you know ozman usbom was a prelim guy forever you know or or early fight night guy you know um so yeah he just yeah every fighter needs that kind of big win yeah it's just i mean one banamweight's tough and it's tough yeah and as we can banemate the best division in the world too Yeah, I mean, and Casey Kenny got the Dominic Cruz fight, and I don't think he has any finishes in the UFC. He's a good fighter.

I don't think he's got any finishes. I think he needs something like, because like you talked about Usman and Habib, and they like did the UFC favors a lot. Like when, like, Habib would fight like what, Darryl Horch are on like four days notice just to stay on the card. Or like Usman cut weight, serves a backup, and then took fights against RDA and Damien Maya and like Chile. like a tough finale. So like he did the UFC's favors. So when the U.S. when Colby turned the fight down in January,

they're like, okay, Usman did us like, you want this? We know you'll say yes. You said yes to everything else. So he needs to be, he needs something like that to fall on his lap too.

So the UFC can trust him and then kind of, you scratch my back, I'll scratch yours. The political side of the game he needs to work on. And I think staying active is, is very important for him too. Because you only fought once in 2019. He was active in 2020.

Like most people forget that he fought three times. In 2020, he fought in February. He fought in June. Then he fought in August. And then he was off for nine months. I mean, of course, you know, he was supposed to fight in December before Cody got injured. So that fight was up to table. Then he was supposed to fight Barzola.

And then Barzola, who like couldn't get cleared by the commission because he had a medical suspension. So that was off. And then they rebooked the statement fight for February. And Marab caught like a gnarly bout of COVID, like a really bad one that put him on his for like a couple of weeks. He was in really bad shape. And then there we go. So yeah,

if he can come back quick and run off another win or two, and I think I can get some of those big fights. And I think he can get a top ten fight right now. I think they're going to throw him a bone. I don't think he's going to get Dominic Cruz, but I think he'll get somebody in the top ten next. Cruz is sitting at nine. I think I don't,

I think Cruz kind of, he already kind of fought someone behind him. Now I think it's time for, you know, the fight back-to-back guys behind him for Cruz. But I threw out the name Frankie Eager. Is that crazy? I think Frankie's still recovering from getting heat in the face. How long ago was that?

Give it two more months. I'm just saying. And Robb's not a knockout guy, you know. So I'm just tossing. You got the Long Island, New Jersey. Rivalry right there, I guess. But I'm excited about Mara. I'd watch it.

And I think Maraubb- If we're going to give Frank. I like his personality too. I mean, I know, is that beard new? You have the beard tonight, right? Yeah.

Yeah, I like the beard. Bearded Mara. Beard works. It works on them. If we're going to give Dominic Cruz, or Frank Yeager, like,

two months to recover, why not just make the Dominic Cruz fight? Because they're like right next to each other in the rankings. Cruz Edgar. Jose. And then Mara. Jose, that breaks,

that breaks to go and rule. I know. I know. But a lot of things were, a lot of rules are broken today. I bet he gets like a Sonsau or Munoz. A son-sau's got to fight you. That's right.

Munoz, maybe. Munoz makes sense. Munoz is interesting. Munoz, I think, is recovering from something because I don't think he turned the O'Malley fight down for some reason. And then O'Malley is apparently booked with someone else. Yeah, O'Malley's saying he's fighting Cruz,

but we don't know if that's actually true or not. and from what I understand, and I believe our good friend James Lynch talked to Corey Sandhagen this past week, Sanhagen said he was when Dillishaw was removed from the fight. The UFC offered him Pedro Munoz

as a replacement for next Saturday and San Hagan said, no, I went away for T.J. Which is going to be smart on his own. Bantamway rules, it's going to be so hard to matchmake a lot of these guys because it's so many people that happen to fight down.

If you look at the top 10, Sterling, current champ, Jan, former champ, Garbrandt, former champ, Aldo, former champ, Edgar, former champ, Cruz, former champ. What's that? Six former champions in the top ten, someone's got to fight down.

Yeah, and Rob Fonts about to fight Cody Garbrand later on this month. So if he beats Cody Garbrand, good Lord. He's right there. Marlon still has to come back at some point. Oh, yeah. Aldo's still not matched up.

Kyla Phillips is undefeited. cheated. Cheeto Vera is still out there kicking legs. Kyler has a fight. Does he? Yeah, he is fighting. Hold on. I got to see. Is he not the one facing us? He's fighting. He's fighting. He's fighting. He's fighting Haphael's Sunday. Yeah. That's right. Yeah. Yeah. I'm into it.

Rob, uh, Robert is interesting. Yeah. I know where, uh, Jim Rivera just beat Stamen. So I, that would make sense. Uh, I know we're not on the, um, questions portion of this show yet, but I just had to read it. I don't think we're going to, I don't think we're going to formally answer this question from Gino. Would M.A. Fighting even bothered to do a post-fight show next week? That card sucks, S-U-X.

Oh, come, Gino. No, stop it. That's not. What is the card? Have they officially? I'm looking at the computer right now. They didn't talk about the card next week at all. No.

Yeah, they didn't even, oh, you're right. Wow. Well, because, and so, I would have, I think. I don't think the main events official yet. It's not official, right? We think it's going to be... I thought Michelle Waterson, the little dance in our Instagram or TikTok,

you know, mainly of that... Right. I guess she was just trying to make it happen. Who she's going to fight in? Marina Rodriguez. Rodriguez. Yeah, Hudriguez. Which is a great fight. And I don't know why people are crapping on it,

but I get the letdown from thinking it's going to be TJ. Right. I mean, I get that, yeah. And from what I understand... And from what I understand, that fight will be at one, 25, not 115. Which makes sense.

Yeah. Yeah. For the short notice nature of it. Yeah, of course. Why bother? Seroni, do we think they find him an opponent? Yes. A male meek.

Is that your pick or is that the rumor right now? That's my, that's my pick. Okay. Okay. Yeah, I'd love that. Yeah, I think that would be a fun one. Yeah, that would really help. Yeah, I don't know.

I control our M.A. Fighting's Instagram page. Emil Meek has tagged us like every hour. Like he tags us like junkie like ESPN, Aero Hawani. It's like I'll wake up and it's like Emil Mique has tagged you in 13 stories.

I'm just like, and it's just like, give me the fight. That's it. Oh, Neil, Neil on Neil. Neil on Neil's next. Oh, he was Angela. He goes Angela Hill. Ben Rothwell is right.

It's good. Gregor Gilles. Neil on wheel. Yeah, Gregor Gillespie, Diego, what, Bill Haas? Come on. Who put that? The crocheted comment out there.

The crochet boss comes back. And we'll be doing, we'll be talking about Bellator's card on Friday, too, and what they'll have. Yeah, we lost Romero, Johnson. I don't want to talk about that. PFL week three. Yeah.

PFL, we will definitely be talking about. Gregor Gillespie is fighting. Gregor Gillespie is fighting Diego Fajara. That is a ridiculous fight. That's good stuff. I don't know if it's, I'm looking at Tapology, so I don't think this is the proper bout order, but man, I like...

They haven't announced the bout order yet. Yeah. This fight night ruled. It was an awesome, awesome fight night with that original main event. Obviously, it's a really good fight night now, but... Oh, here to answer your question on the pre... on the Q&A, I believe, AK.

I don't know how to pronounce his first name, but Adashev fighting Ryan Binoi 3 and 3 in this career. So he could be 7,500. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. He just lost to Suma Darja. He like got off to a hot start with like Bellator and then was picked up by the, very strange.

I've never seen him with an arc like his, so very strange. Yeah, he's all in two in the UFC. Yeah. And the Bellator card, the day before, we're going to have obviously a great main event with Archeletta Pettis Anthony Johnson's making his comeback against a victim

Patricie Pitbull MVP is back against a quality opponent with Derek Anderson Patchy Mix has a short as on the card Henry Corallis is making his Bantamake debut We might do two post-fight shows next week

You know what? Let's do it Guys let's do a Bell Tour one Lorenz Larkin is back Come on He's fighting Raphael Ovalio Let's talk about something stupid, though. Why is Lorenz Larkin not fighting Michael Van derange.

That is to me. I get both fights rule, but A, like, one of them should be fighting Lima and then the other, or fighting each other. Like, get it together, Scott Coker. Look, right. This child leaves and everything goes to shit. They lose their matchmaker. No, this was pre.

I know, I'm joking. Matt's Maker leaving. You think Scott Coker, Rich, Chil, we're going to give Michael Vennepage a hard fight? No. Come on. Derek Anderson's a good step up, though. Oh, he's so...

I love that fight. I love Michael Vennon Page, Derek Anderson. But as soon as Lorenz Larkin signed, I was like, if you don't give him the title shot, give me Michael Vannum page. And it just hasn't happened.

Okay. So I talked to Lorenz Larkin after the Japan fight, where he looked like ridiculous. and I asked him about that fight specifically. And he said that, yeah, they're both under the same management firm and all that. They're both paradigm guys. And that's kind of part of it. They're also really good friends.

Like Lorenz beat, like I got the sense that they became really good friends during fight week. Like they were on the same card and they just became like buddies. No friends in M. A fight each other. Savages, savages. Be a savage. Yeah, you even heard, you even heard Deerie today.

Yuri's like, he's from the Czech Republic and he's like, he's like, but I hope it's my neighbor. I like him. But if it's for a title, yeah, well, whatever. I'll knock his dog. There you go. And listen, I'll be there. I will be at that Bellator card. Oh, yeah.

We're going to have some excellent coverage then next week. Yes, I will, I will be there on Wednesday. And, yeah, it should be fun. Alex Savis will be, maybe Alex Avis will come on the post show. She's working that card. Nice. There we go. But what about, what about, what a fuck?

Oh, I dropped my laptop. Well, I was going to say, I was going to say, what about this, Alex? But I guess we, I guess we now know. Why, Alex. Alex, I think it's time for. I was called cool. Why she called cool, Alex. I think it's time for, I think it's time for you to go to bed, Alex. I was going to say, I think guys calling me, I think they need me.

I think they need me to help with stories. Maybe I should leave. I think you should take Bellator off, go find a new color to paint your wall, and then, you know, get it together. That's better than the landline. I'm sweating. I have a laptop balanced on some books here, okay,

to get into the proper height. So it's at a proper height. So I'm not, you know, I've got it exactly where I need to be, but I just, got a little you know I got

you start talking about cool Alex I think it was just showing your selling van for like a couple of seconds like whatever

I'm glad I was thinking yeah is there anything else a poster of Jose up in my no

okay thank you nothing like that so it's all good oh man that was great all right

let's go to the let's go to the peeps good God oh oh god sorry I love you, A.K., I love you. I'm not leaving on that note.

I'm answering this first question, then I'm leaving. All right. Oh, wait. Sorry. I was from earlier today. All right. Okay, let's talk about this. We didn't talk about it, but.

Ooh, too small. The Marcos DQ was crazy. It happened. I mean, A.K., okay, let me, let me ask you this. Was this like the, worst possible result for Renamarkos? Like, could this have gone any worse? No, because obviously, I think the opposite, I think straight-up lost would have guaranteed

she was cut, right? Even though it was an exciting fight, even if they would let one fight in the night or something, she probably wouldn't get cut based on what we were saying earlier. She would have been below 500 in her overall pro record. It would have been her third, fourth straight loss. I think it's more than that. it would have been her fourth straight fifth fifth in her last six fights um so i thought the one that's the fact that she was competitive looked good and two the fact that it had a scurry finish i feel like you can't i feel like you can't cut her off of that um i think pinera was like on well it was only the first round but i mean i think pinnero looked good i think she was the favorite to win i think she was going to win but we'll never know if she would have won decision now because the way it ended or or if she would have finished marcos what have you so uh it was was crazy. I know Casey, you didn't love the call. So, but so I just sort of in advance, I'll say it was an legal strike. I think it did a lot of damage. I don't think Pinheiro was necessarily acting. I know Felder kind of threw it out there in the broadcast. She was definitely hurt. And mainly because I think she was winning the fight, which is why to me it wouldn't make sense that she would want to take a way out like that. But who knows, maybe she was tiring if you want to, you know, go down that road. But I don't know.

I'm okay with the call that was made by Mark Smith. It was a crappy way to end the fight. I think, Casey, you're more saying you wish it was a no contest. Is that right? Yeah, I absolutely wish it was no contest. I believe it was completely accidental. I mean, considering the first kick was right to her shoulder and then the second kick just kind of went up, you know, a little bit more.

I just thought it was accidental. I mean, it just, it's, and the rules, the, the rules, rules are set up that way to protect the person on the bottom, but we wind up having the situation where it's the person on top that's the person that's, you know, or, you know what me? And I just think it's a stupid rule. I mean, I thought Angela Hill tweeted out the same thing. She says, up kicks from the person on bottom should be absolutely legal.

That's not the, that's not the intent of the rule to protect a person above. It's a protected person on the bottom. And, yeah, I just think it's a... It's a crappy rule. Okay, even if you're, even, I mean, I hate, I hate, I hate ground in knees. I hate that the ground knees are illegal. I hate even more that up kicks are illegal. So, um, it's a stupid rule.

And if that lady wasn't faking that kick, Randolph-Marcus has the most vicious upkick ever in MMA. That's all. It was, it looked odd. I'm not going to say she, I'm not going to say she milked it, but it, it looked strange. And, you know, I think we all, we, we were all. we were all thinking what Paul Fowder was saying. That's all.

Did you see the video that Helen Ye posted of Pinero getting like carried out? Like if you can't. Yeah. If you can't like I'm surprised in like force them to bring a stretcher out if you're going to, if she can't physically get to the back on her own will. You know what I mean? Like where's the stretcher? I thought that was kind of weird.

It was a odd situation. Oh yeah. I'm watching. in now. She's literally like being carried like a baby out to the back by her coach. I mean, how many knockouts have we seen in this sport

and like people got to get carried out like a baby? Like there was just legal or not legal strikes. That's just kind of, come on. It was odd. It's odd. I'll say. I'm not saying she's faking because who knows but it was odd. We've been working in this sport long enough to

to recognize that's odd. That's all. It was strange. Casey, just go all in on it. Stop backtracking like Felder did. Felder, I think, was feeling it. I think in the back of his mind, he was thinking about, oh, my gosh, if I go to, in on this narrative, Josh, Joshua Fabia is going to get another call from Fabia for, you know,

my disrespect of the fighters and for creating these negative storylines. So I do think the influence of, the influence of Fabio was felt tonight, of course, and Paul Felder would not want to make, would not want to make that mad at night. It's because it's because, it's because, it's because Fabia talks. Diego Sanchez the heart punch, remember? Yeah. Remember what he was saying about Michael Casey? He caught Diego Sanchez the punch of death.

He clearly taught random Marcos the upkeep of death. Well, other cases, it wasn't it a death choke or something? Or maybe both? Whatever. Regardless, it's all skulls. We know, Belder, he graduated the school of self-awareness. That's all I can say. He did.

Well, that's why he has a broadcasting gig and someone like Josh Fabian. All right. Yeah. Fabia is the game. Gary Busey of M. May. There's no doubt about that. And Paul Feldor with his commentary, he was doing like the verbal hokey pokey.

He was putting the thought in, then he took it out, and then he kind of put it back in again, and then he shook it all about. Like, he did all that stuff. Does Yuri get a title shot? If he wants it, yes.

It just depends. It's up to the UFC. I'd still say to give him Ratchett, just to have those two on standby for Yon and Glover. Because, like, we all agreed. Corey Anderson probably deserved a title shot and he's had to fight Jan. Should have just put those all on the same card rather than a week.

What I don't want is them fighting like a week apart. I get why, like, because Ratchik and Yeri rules as a five-round fight, but that fight's not going to go five rounds. So it might as well just make it a three-round fight and make the culminate event. I hope Yerre gets it. That would most likely mean that he would have to wait until December at earliest, maybe the new year. Or even next year.

Oh, even next year, yeah. Depending how crazy the, I guess, the Jan Glover fight goes. But yeah, that is a long time to wait. If they... That's the issue. If Europe opens up anytime soon and they want to make like a ratchet, Yuri, like, main event somewhere in that part of the world because they're both from that area,

I'm all about that too. Like, just a number one contenders fight for, like, the Eastern European, that'd be great. do you get some um and i know they're very different but some kind of almost justing gaecie vibes from yerry tony ferguson for sure yeah well i mean just in the sense that um he just came into the ufc kind of like not as a prospect but basically here we're gonna give you a top level fight and you win this fight you're you're pretty michael chanlin michael chanel yeah michael chanelner same yeah that just you win exciting you're there you know so yeah you're only one time of ufc yeah so

That's cool. I mean, I'm sure they won't. Yuri's kind of getting the success that Manel Cape kind of, I was about to say. I'm sure they wanted Manel Cape to do, but it didn't work out for him. And Manel Cape had a shorter path at Flyweight. One winnie probably would have got a tile shot. 100%.

One more question for me. Go do my part for the writing. Thank God. Oh, no, sorry, that was a mistake. I didn't mean that. Okay. Well, again, it's not my birthday, but I welcome. come all the loves.

I didn't mean to write that up there. Happy Halloween. You know, I'm not going to mistakes. This is just for Jose and me, I guess,

because I know you guys are going to do your show tomorrow. I don't hate this fight. John Deegan says Reyes versus Anthony Smith. I don't hate it because there was some sort of beef I think in 2018, but I think they squashed it.

It was mostly like someone alleged to turn down a fight and vice versa. I don't hate that fight at all. But if they want to do like Reyes versus like Jimmy Crute, I don't hate that either. Yeah, I'm fine with any of those guys in the top seven area. Even Santos would be a bangor, but then I don't know if you want, like the loser that would be on what a four-fight losing streak between Reyes and Santos?

I don't think you want that to play out. Yeah, we'll, as you said, we'll talk more on our matching show. But I'll just say I'm probably angling more to, like, we don't have to keep putting Reyes in there with top 15 guys. I'm sure he wants to, again, but I would love to go outside of the top of Dean and just look a little bit further down, maybe get the loser of some upcoming matchup that's coming up. Again, I'll have to listen to on to the next one to find my pick.

Craig and Jamal Hill. Sure. I mean, that's, yeah, they're right out there. Yeah, exactly. Is Sarkinov matching up with anyone? Serkenov's coming off a loss, right? Yes, I don't think he's matched up right now. Who did you just lose to?

Who did Circonov's losing? Ryan, Stan. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, like Sarkanov, Reyes. I think that would be a scrap too. Yeah, we can go, we can go long. We don't need to, yeah.

Let's tell, because again, these are three really tough fights. John Jones, Yombovich, you're, you're a prohash guy. There's no easy fights at the stage of where Dominic Reyes is right now. But we can kind of try to help this guy rebuild a little bit. You know, I think there's still a lot that Reyes has to offer to the UFC. This is where I think boxing does get her right. If it was Dominic, if Dominic is a boxer, he would be fighting someone. that, I don't know,

not even a, like, uh, you're playing OSP. No, I was thinking, he already, he already, I was thinking Kudalaba.

Kudalaba. Kudalaba or Jacob. That's what I, Kudalaba or Jacoby. That kind of that area for, for, that's what I, if I'm raised as management,

you know, no, you know, no guys are big egos that they wanted to. Give me, you know, give me the top guy, you know, the biggest guy, you know,

but I would, I would pay someone outside of top 15 or right around, outside the top 10 at minimum. Who's devon, Who's Devin Clark matched up with? He was supposed to fight next week, I think. What about Menafield? I know he just fought.

Oh, no, he was supposed to fight tonight. He was supposed to fight Kutte Lab but tonight. Right. And he had to pull out. That's why Manifil. Yeah, Menopheel. Someone like Dominion Reyes, Minifil, those fights kind of makes sense. No, you can't do that.

No, you can't do that. You can't put Manifield. That guy. Shooting it down already. What about Shogun? You can't do that. That's better. I don't mind.

That's fine. Shogun's probably gone his way out. If Reyes gets the win, he gets the rub of beating a former champ. If he loses, then might as well just start losing weight. Yeah, you can't. Menafield just not enough experience. That's like way too big of a mismatch. No, no disrespect to Minefield.

I just feel like. What about the loser of Jamal Hill and Paul Craig? Like Craig and Jamal Hill are what, 1415? Something like that. I think that's a fine idea. Yeah. Yeah, because Paul Craig is the only one beat in Ankleyev.

And we got that like so. Yeah. Like last second. Yeah. Yeah. Saved his career. Yep. The only one of the shot. The problem is so like light heavyweight division that has had so many like people leave like Jones, Rumble, Corey Anderson. Like they all left.

DC. Yeah. Like DC. They all left like in the span of like two years. So like two years ago, if this is this, if we have all those guys like Jamal Hill is not ranked. Like Jimmy Cruz probably not ranked. Ryan Span's probably not ranked. So like a lot of these unranked guys just happen to find themselves 15, 14, 13. You can do the rematch of those to Meir.

It's not a horrible idea because that fight was pretty controversial. Yeah, very. Yeah. Just don't give him McAlyeuf. Don't give him McAlythe. I know. I know. I know the U.S.

I don't do that. Please don't do that. Yeah. Yeah. Or a middleweight that wants to go up, maybe. Like, remember we fought Wydenman. Reyes versus Luke Rockold? No, I want Anthony Smith to fight Luke Wackold if Luke Wackle.

That's definitely the fight to make. I don't know why. I don't know what we're waiting on with that one, but. Are you leaving us, AK? Is that what's about to happen? I think we're all leaving. I think we're all leaving. Yeah.

Okay. What? You guys are done. You don't know if allegiance because of me. Is it my, am I shutting the showdown? No, me. Oh, I guess we've done an hour. Is this been an hour?

Oh, wow. Yeah, an hour and 10 minutes almost. All right. Shnikes. Oh, we didn't talk about Loma. Loma. I know way early in the card, but I love watching Loma fight. I'm really bummed.

She didn't get a post-fight interview because I just, I love hearing her speak. Yes. I saw someone answer. I asked that and someone answered. I think with a somewhat reasonable answer like, oh, it wasn't like one of the top. It didn't fit in because it went to a decision and it wasn't like it was kind of confusing. Like it wasn't at the top of 30 or the top of the hour or something.

But I'm like, was she literally the only one who didn't get? Maybe I shouldn't say that. No, no. She wasn't. She was the only one that didn't get. She didn't speak to us on Fight Island either. Huh. Maybe she's not comfortable doing interviews.

No, it could be, yeah. No, no. She's fine doing that. She's fine. The UFC hasn't, you know, given her, you know, presented her for, you know, the cameras. She was the only one. She was the, I'm looking at the lineup now. She was the only winning fighter that did not get an injury.

Oh, Piniaro, obviously. But other than that, she was the only winning fighter. That's weird. It was weird. I don't get it. Oh, you know, maybe, maybe because they didn't have a proper translator. That's the other thing. That could actually, that could, that's actually.

Which also could have been the issue on Fight Island as well, yeah. I love Loma. I think Loma looked great. She was expected with this fight. Give Sam Hughes another chance. Sure. This matchmaking is insane. Tisha Torres on, I think she was short notice, I assume.

Yeah, was short notice. Whatever. That's a week. That's an insane to find Tisha Torres at UCD-D-View. What? And then Loma looked with me Who's just again as a blue chip 115er I mean I know we all

She's really a 105er but yeah I was gonna say she's long yeah Loma looked like just thicker than usual In there because she's not like you might is it Is there a walk you know I know no no no I'm saying like from the fight island Yeah like she spent time bulking up Yeah I think she did maybe she fought maybe she fought juneu frine she's like oh shit like I got to put on some Yeah

She just looked she's just look she visit Like she obviously is not, she's still the smallest 1-15er, but she just looked more muscular in there to me. But yeah, but Sam Hughes. Sam Hughes is good. She was winning some of those striking exchanges. Like, she's a talent, man. Let's please give her someone that's closer to her experience.

Well, I shouldn't say that because I guess technically she has more pro-MMA fights than Loma. But, you know, I think people know what I mean. Combat sports experience. Yes, combat sports. Because Loma's very experienced in nothings. But, yeah, give Sam Hughes. If she gets cut, I mean, it wouldn't be the worst thing because I guess she could

go back to LFA or she can go, you know, get more experience elsewhere and come back. But I'd like to see you get one more shot at the UFC. Dude, she brought it tonight. That was a scrap. She was the biggest dog on the card. It was close fight. That's right. Yeah, I enjoyed it.

Yeah, good fight. Positivity, guys. Positivity. That's what I like to hear. And Felipe Collar is just the toughest dude on planet Earth. Holy crap. Wow. That was some opening fight.

That was wild. But all right, I guess we're done. K.B. Bullard, keep your head up, buddy. Keep your head up, KB. All right. Yeah. Just don't want to charge. Now everyone go. Now everyone go watch the highlights,

Andrew, he's Chris Ariel, because that fight ruled. Yes. And AK and I will be back tomorrow morning, probably like eight hours from now, recording on to the next one, matchmaking. And thank you to Dustin Jacoby and Iwan Kutalaba. We don't have to matchmake for either of those.

guys. So there you go. Our show will be a little bit shorter. That means more time for listener's suggestions. So hit us up and you'll hear them all tomorrow. So for Jose, AK, me, Casey Leiden. I am Mike Heck. Thank you for watching. Good night, everybody. Happy birthday, okay. Stop it. You're listening to the Vox Media Podcast Network.