MMA Fighting - UFC Vegas 34 Post-Fight Show | Jared Cannonier Vanquishes Kelvin Gastelum in Main Event

Episode Date: August 22, 2021

Following UFC Vegas 34, MMA Fighting's Alexander K. Lee and E. Casey Leydon break down all the action from Saturday night's card including Jared Cannonier's hard fought victory over Kelvin Gastelum in the main event, Mark O. Madsen returning with a victory against Clay Guida as well as several jaw-dropping finishes earlier in the night. Follow Alexander K. Lee @AlexanderKLee Follow E. Casey Leydon @ekc Subscribe: http://goo.gl/dYpsgH Check out our full video catalog: http://goo.gl/u8VvLi Visit our playlists: http://goo.gl/eFhsvM Like MMAF on Facebook: http://goo.gl/uhdg7Z Follow on Twitter: http://goo.gl/nOATUI Read More: http://www.mmafighting.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Vegas 34 post-bite show. I apologize. I'm a little slow to react here. I'm just sending out a spicy tweet. Just let some more people know that we are happening. So if you guys see a tweet with a lot of typos in it, because I was talking to you guys while doing this. But I think we are okay to fire and okay to go.

Everyone, thank you for joining us. It is I, Alexander K. Lee, who has kind of taken over some of the hosting reigns while our main man, Mike Heck, is on vacation. And, of course, taking on the co-hosting reigns and also still doing the production reigns one Mr. E. Casey Lydden. Hey, look, I discovered a new flavor of La Croy.

Uh-huh. Guava. It tastes pink. It tastes pink. It's pretty awesome. La Croy. What's LeCroix? What's LeCoy?

I don't know we have that in Canada. It's weird. I'm from a sophisticated nation. You are. I, look. We'll get there. We'll get there. Yeah.

Look, look, the 12-fight card. We just had ourselves a pretty decent main event, I think. I mean, not the kind of main event that if you're up at 1.30 in the morning on the East Coast, you're kind of like, you know, you're feeling it's going to keep you up necessarily. I'm not going to lie. I'm a little gas. I'm a little gas from those watching, having to watch all 12 with those bites. But it wasn't a bad card, Casey.

Let's, let me get your thoughts just overall right away, counting the prelims and the main card. How you're feeling after that, after a dirty, dozen. It was as advertised. I don't know we didn't grade this card before, but you know, it was, it was a fight night card, you know, with no real serious title implications. You know, guys, obviously everyone wants to win. But yeah, no shockers. Nothing kind of blew me away. But some good finishes, especially, some good, some really nice knockouts, especially at the beginning of the card. And yeah, yeah, no shocker, no shockers, just people fight. and then people doing what they do

and, you know, no one, yeah. Yeah, nothing. Yeah, this is, this is, blew me away. No, nothing blew me away in a sense of like, oh, Jared Karenir is a, you know, a mastered leglock submission guy now, or nothing like that.

It's like kind of like, everyone came, has advertised, delivered, and some, some formed a little better and something didn't. Yeah, look, we're old hat at this. A lot of the people watching our old hat at this. I think you guys understand what Casey's saying here. It was a fine card.

I think a lot of these sort of lower key fight nights have this good formula, ideally, of some exciting finishes on the prelims. And then, you know, the main card, a few more recognized names. It might not have been case in that. But that's generally how the formula goes. Really, really exciting prelims for sure. That's some exciting the main card. But yeah, the main event was fairly predictable,

not necessarily on who you thought might win, but as far as, like, we knew it was just going to be a competitive. five-rounder, very doubtful that either cannoneer or Gasol would finish the other guy. I think 48-47 Canineer was the perfect score. I thought the judge did a good job. Everyone pretty much scored it that way, too. I think I saw about 95% of people scoring that way.

I think was round one probably the iffy round, or was everything pretty clear? I think there was some debate in round one. Same. I'm sorry? Yeah, that was the most disputed one. I went with Kenanir. But two through five seemed to be pretty easy to pick.

Yeah, even with Gasselam, like recovering really well from those. There was one that was definitely the first time that Enineer rocked him. I would say it was a knockdown. The second time it was more of a slip. He kind of caught him with this like uppercut. And then Gasselm just kind of slipped and then went for a leg. I wouldn't have scored that a knockdown. I'm pretty sure it wasn't.

Did they show the replay? Did they actually show the replay? I know D.C. was talking about it and said that that wasn't a knockdown. That was actually just slip in. Yeah. Yeah. But I like what Anick pointed out. And this is, I know we're going to talk about a lot of things, kind of jumping into judging real quick.

But I just want to emphasize what a hard job judging is because remember, you don't have replays as a judge. So if you're watching from any position, it, from the home position, it looked like he got dropped of rubber cut. then DC tells us, oh, actually that's not what happened. It was just the angle that we saw. But for a judge, unfortunately, that was kind of a clear round for Kenya, but if that was a close round, that kind of really changed the fight. So just where you're sitting as a judge is incredibly important. And remember, you at home have the best view of the fight, not the people, you know,

only feed away from the actual fight. It's very odd, but it's just a reality. Yeah, I mean, that's the whole reason for the three judges, right? It's theoretically the three of them should form this multi-headed being that can get the right angles. It doesn't always work out that way. It is how we kind of get some weird split decisions. But overall, I thought the judging tonight was pretty strong.

I'm trying to see. Maybe 30, 27 for Mark O'Madson might have been a bit off. But that was a very close fight. Clay Guita fights are pretty difficult to score. There's a lot going on, but not necessarily a lot of scoring going on. So, again, I'm not going to, maybe if I watch it again, I could say more strongly where they're like, oh, that 3027 was completely insane. I did think it was the oddest score of the night.

But the right, you know, I think the right guy probably won. Yeah. It was, it could have gone either way. Actually, that one could have. I was pretty confident Mattson was the better fighter tonight. And I did have it 29-20. I think Clay started. There's a lot of fights tonight.

I think Clay did start strong, and there was a solid round for Clay. But I thought, especially toward the end, Clay was just doing a lot of bouncing and bouncing and bouncing, but really no action. And nothing. blew me away in the fight as far as like, oh, man, Madison's going to be fighting for the title pretty soon. Madsen got solid victory for Madsen. Good for him.

I know he's going through a lot of personal shit right now in his life. So hopefully that, you know, two checks helps him out. But yeah, let's talk about the main event a little more. What we do that? Before we do that, can we got to do it? What's happening? We got to get who got the fight of the night performance of the, no. Oh my gosh.

Okay. See, this is this is standard of Mikeck stuff. This is new for me. This is good. Go ahead. I'm not, I'm actually, it might have come up already, but let's, Let's, I'm going to not look at Twitter. Yeah, go ahead, kid.

You go first. Fight of the night, Pantosia, Roy Val. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. And knockout, oh, performance of the night. Bar, how did you say his name? Ignacio. Ignacio. Ah, yes.

And, um, I'm gonna go, I'm gonna go Nunes. Okay. It'll be, I'll say this. Bahamanda should be a lock because he was, not only did he win, by the, by the, with the wheel kick in the last like six seconds of the fight, he was on his way to winning a decision. Pretty sure he was going to win a decision. Very nice.

Very great striking performance by him. So that for me is the definition of a great performance. It's not a fluke, you know, you show how dominant you are over. He, again, almost three rounds for him. And then you still get that finish. One of the best finishes the year. Perfect. He has to get one.

Has to get one. I think Pachell, no, Pachel was so, I don't know. I very liked the Pachel Hubbard fight, though. So that might steal the fight in the night. And I think Pantosia might get the other performance bonus. So I'll go with that. I'll go with the lightweights, Pichel and Hubbard getting a fight in the night, Pantosia and Bahamandas getting the performance bonuses.

So we'll see when those come up guys, usually they're tweeted out, or someone in our Slack business will say who we'll throw it out there. So we'll let you know. I don't know if they've come up yet. I just check real quick. I haven't seen anyone yet. Nothing yet, nothing yet. Okay.

So let's talk about the main event, again, a little more. We said, so two things here. One of them was, this kept, was asked a lot, Casey Bowie. Is this do or die for Calvin Gaslam? You said no. I said maybe, based on the performance, again, really close fight. Casey, I assume you're staying with that stance. Yeah, I said unless Kelvin looked horrible tonight and just got, you know, smoked within, you know, around.

But he did not look horrible tonight. He fought. To me, this is one of those fights. If they fought 10 times, each guy wins five times right now at their level. It was an incredibly close fight. And Kelvin won the last round. I mean, so I think both guys kind of, both guys are kind of in the same spot. They're kind of exactly where they were, because Canada was already ranked higher in our real rankings and the UFC rankings.

I think both guys are kind of right where they're at. Nothing really changed for me. I was going to say. So, yeah, Canaanera number seven in our rankings, the consensus, and then Calam Gossum at 12. Ahead of Canaaner in our rankings, Vittori, Derek Brunson, and Musassi. Those are three names right ahead of him. I don't think his performance tonight jumps him over any of those guys necessarily. No, absolutely not.

No. Especially the dominant performance of Missasi had. Was it last week or was it? When was that? It was just last weekend. Oh, his last weekend, okay. It's all blurring together. Everything's just one long fight.

It really does. Life is a long fight week. Um, Gasselum 12, behind him, Kevin Hall and Uriah Hall, Andreemunez. I think Gasl also just maintains a spot. I don't think he drops in our rankings. Yeah. Probably not. So there we go.

So this was our concern kind of going into this fight. You know, we were like, it's a good fight. We're just like, what kind of implications does it have, win or lose? And really nothing, nothing for either guy. Nothing. I go, oh, Jared can't hear. He's definitely better than, you know, Susie or Costa. Costo's original opponent tonight, correct?

For cannonear, correct? Kevin for Cannesier, yeah, yeah. Costas, he hasn't fought since the... Not since the... No, he is not. It is. I know. He's...

I mean, I know that fight didn't go well for him, but man, he's clearly like someone who people really want to see compete, and it is unfortunate. He has not been able to get back in there. That fight did make a lot more sense than the Kelvin fight. But this fight was a great fight. Not an all-time classic, but a good main event. I think it delivered.

Yeah, it was. Ranking-wise, though, everyone's kind of, right back where they started. This was a professional MMA main event. It was a very, very, two guys, very skilled. They're going to give you a good five hard rounds. But is this a fight that we're really going to remember by the end of the year? Honestly, probably not. Calvin Gaston just tweeted, I think I won, but whatever.

So I would I mean What a band of words I think I won but whatever Which is a normal reaction Which is kind of why I like Kelvin Because he got Kelvin's always kind of stays in his lane He doesn't he doesn't do anything

He doesn't try to break the mold You know we know we know we know we get With Kelvin Kelvin Galsom And we got that tonight And yeah What did you learn tonight About about Jared Karen here? I think he answered some questions

about his gas tank, which again, I don't know what. Like, that was one of the only questions we had for him. But again, as most people said, he's looked pretty good. Like, there was no, there's no, like, he just hasn't gone five rounds again since way, way back in the day when he was a heavyweight. But I never saw anything in any of his fights that made me think he couldn't go like a good five rounds. So, but yeah, if there was any doubt, he looked good. He looked good in the fifth round. So it's not like he came out the strongest in the fifth round.

but he didn't get his butt kicked or anything he wasn't like gas or anything I think it was just a close competitive fight that's all yeah yeah I think I think gaslam I know I was I was before I was kind of leaning towards this is a do or die for him I still think his job

if not super secure but I would like to see him fight Paulo Koss now I feel like he has placed Costa twice costa was him a favor and it should take a fight with Gaslam for being his understudy now his last two fights and give him one more big fight

but I don't know maybe Gaslan Would you like see Gaslan take a step back in competition? Are we doing on to the next already? Are we doing that right now? I mean I'm not making my official onto the next one pick yet But I'm just kind of like what's in the future for? If Kelvin does take that fight against Costa

That does fight that's booked I would love to have some kind of reassurance That Kelvin won't be released if he loses that fight because that is just, that is just BS if you lose to like top five fighters and you somehow you get cut off that. If you're losing to, I don't know, name a Rando middleweight that lost his last fight. I don't know. Well, let's just say a guy he beat.

Let's just say the guy he beat. What if he had lost like Ian Hinesh. Like, that was a do or die. Yeah, yeah. That was what I mean. Like you, but that was more of a do or die in the sense that just is Kelvin still an elite middleweight. I mean, I think even after this performance tonight,

of loss, I still considered in the UFC, Kelvin, an elite middleweight. Like, you know, you still can't deny what he did to Israel, Asani and pushing him to the breaking point. Yep. So I would like, long, short answer, wait, short answer for this long ramble already. But I would like Kelvin to take a big jump back now. I got to look at the UFC roster, but there's got to be some rando. Yes. I don't know.

tune in people tune in to onto the next is he a middleweight yeah him that's who Kelvin's fight is he still is he still in the US wake him up see what he's doing that's the other question people tune into on the next one on Sunday hopefully it'll be up Sunday

again no Mike heck I should be getting joined by M.A. fighting's own Stephen Morocco so there you go so a little bit of a different look but I will we will have the answers for you as to what should be next for actually only Jared Kennedy or we weren't planning to match make Calvin, if I'm being honest.

So we might have to just say it now. So there you go, Jack Marshman. There's your official. Jack Marshman is Casey's pick and Paula Costa is my pick. I think he owes him. But I agree. It would suck if he loses to another tough guy on Costa and then the UFC is like, oh, wow, he can't compete at the highest level anymore.

Clearly he can. Yeah, clear. Have the bonuses come in yet? Surely. Surely they must know. Nothing yet, hey, Casey? I'm not on the Twitter sphere right now Now this is normally where we would talk about the co-main

But we're going to skip over We kind of touched upon it already There's an important part we need to talk about Before we go to the co-main Jared Carrieneer's post-fight interview Did you listen to it? I did what would you like to say about Oh, let me see

I'll read the quote because I did tweet it out of our account I'll read this His last thing he said Well, you know, DC gave him the set of teed it up for him. You know, Jared, who do you want to fight next? Canneryer said, well, I'm broke, so I need to fight. Hopefully I get that title shot, but the right name might make me say yes. So not exactly a triumphance post-fight winner's speech.

Casey, I sense didn't like the tone of that speech. It's just, it's not about Jared Canaaner. It's just about, I mean. Oh, not at all. It's a whole other subject matter. But I just thought need to be mentioned. I mean, there's something broken in the mixed martial arts business, a prize fighting, where Jared Cairnir, who we all agree is an elite middleweight.

He is a UFC veteran. He's not like he's one or two fights in the UFC. Main evented, a fight night card. He's one fight possible away. Maybe his next fight would be for a title shot. And the guy is freaking broke. So unless he's got really bad money management, it's just wasting way too much. much money on crystals, which is a great thing to spend your money on.

Oh, gosh. That's all. Something's messed up in the sport. And we can't do anything. I'm just a media member. You're just fans, fighters. I don't know. It's time to fight the tougher fight.

Look, look, look, it's, we in the media haven't been in this jump for a while. And I think a lot of fans have, too. But if you're a fan there who's like on the fence or you say, I don't care about fighter pay, you got to take a side here. And when I say that, I mean, you got to take the fighter's side here. Put the pressure on Dana White. Tweet at them, whatever it is you guys normally do to get, you guys are very, I'm talking to the fans here. The listeners, the fans, viewers.

You guys are very powerful. I think not just with your wallet. I know people like, well, whatever, I answer with my wallet. It's like, no, I mean, tweet at Dana White, have conversations on social media. Have conversations with people in real life and talk about fighter pay. This is, if you're headlining a UFC event on ESP. on national television, at no point in your post-vite speech should you be saying, I'm broke. I don't know how anyone can think this is a good look and how they can. And again, yes,

Jared Cannier is responsible for his choices, whatever. If you want to look into whatever, his investments, maybe he's made bad investments, I don't know. But to assume that is silly. We don't know. We don't know. Why? Why would you assume that it's his fault that he's not making enough money competing at the U.S. level? We know. Fighter pay is disclosed. Well, actually, it's not disclosed as much anymore. Unfortunately, no, unfortunately. There's a reason for that. But look, we have him saying some of that. We have Cediel gone saying publicly how much he made. We have Misha Tate saying, look, she spent a lot in her camp, fine, maybe more so than most people. But she's a high-level athlete. Athletes in other sports don't have to worry about this.

I know the UFC is different. The UFC is not baseball. The UFC is not the NFL. I totally understand. It's not the same thing. But it is high-level major. League sports. And I just don't know any other high level major league sports where the athletes are openly talk about how much are struggling like this. It's absurd. I just feel weird criticizing or criticizing fighters or fans yelling at fighters online, social media accounts. When they have a freaking roommate when they, you know, it's like these guys are the highest, you're the highest level of the sport. You're one of the top 10 people doing what you do in your occupation and no, I don't know, making more than, you know, a lower middle class of living,

you know, I don't know. I just, I don't, I've worked in this, I've worked in MMA well over a decade now. I do, I still don't understand how professional fighters make a living, to be honest, all fight purses. I mean, that's all. But we can move on to the coming event. Sorry, I just have, I want to get, I want to just throw that out there because it kind of startled me a bit.

Look, yeah, we could talk about this all day. And in general, I know people, uh, I know there's a resent. towards athletes who are paid too much, I understand. But I think if you look at, if people look at like kind of the finances and how like these businesses work, athletes in general, just based on their contracts are actually really underpaid. I know that sounds stupid. Like seeing when you're saying when you see someone get paid like $300 million to hit a,

hit a ball with a bat, it sounds stupid. But like compared to how much revenue is generated by their work and all that stuff. Anyway, we could harp on this all day. UFC fighters are definitely underpaid. It's just it's that's not going that issue is not going away anytime soon. It's a discussion I just say is not going away anytime soon and it's and it shouldn't. And remember in Endeavour, the parent company of UFC just announced like record profits. The best whatever quarter for the UFC.

I don't know. Yeah. And people how do you think that happens? Okay. I'm just saying it's do the math. Do the math. Let's talk about Casey. I was going to say normally we would talk about the co-main event here.

We kind of touched upon already. And let's ask. We didn't think this should have been. the co-mate event. So let's talk about the fight that we thought should have been the co-main event, or really should have been the main event, the flyweight main card opener between Alexandria Pontoja and Brandon Royvall. Everything we expected, Royval is an insane pressure fighter,

one of the best pressure fighters in any division, a relentless wrestler. And it's just a guy who when he's in, when he's in trouble, he's not even, he like, when he's in trouble, you're in trouble if you're as opponent because he's, he's, he's just so tricky and pentosia a lesser man may have fallen to some of roi val's tricks tonight pantosia is again one of the i think one of the five best uh flyweight in the world um and he showed it with that control tonight so let's i mean let's talk about his performance how what do you think of pentosia tonight casey if pan what i said coming into the fight if pantosia wins and especially if he wins like this he absolutely should be fighting for the

title next his next fight now is morano gumby the next next opponent. Maybe not. It could be figgy, a trilogy. If it's not figgy for the trilogy, it has to be Pantosia. He has earned it. They even had the, like, very super polite call out, which I loved. I loved the, I loved that. Great job of UFC production staff having the, having, um, Marino right there. Great TV. Oh, they nailed that. They nailed that. Yeah, just great, great TV. You did such a good job. You have the package. You have the promo right there, you know, and I hope it happens. Um, this is a great, if they don't do this, it makes, because of COVID stuff, If they can't do this in Mexico, have Marino fight in Mexico, please have this for like a main event on ABC.

That's all. This deserves like worldwide attention. So. I like, I would love that. I like that. And obviously, obviously for me, who doesn't pay for pay for pay reviews because I work in it, I understand why the UFC or maybe some fans want as a main event for pay-per-view. But I totally think this is a main event pay-per-view worthy title fight. Just on the skill set alone, I understand name values.

different story. But, yeah, please, please treat these. I hope the UFC treats these guys like the stars and great fighters they are and not bury Pantosia and the opening fight on a throwaway fight night card, you know, all. Casey, let me deal with some troll in our comments first of all. Okay. No, no, no, look, look. I'm hearing, I get it. The counter, the name you didn't mention Casey and the counter that everyone was throwing out there tonight, Ascar Ascarov. Okay. I understand. Ascar Ascarov beat Pantosia, convincing win. For sure. I have no issue if Ascar Ascroft gets the title shot. Pantoja is the more compelling matchup for Marino right now.

I'm sorry. That's just a fact. He has beaten Moreno twice definitively. He submitted him on the ultimate fighter in about, I think he said a minute. They talked about it on the show today, on the broadcast today. He beat him convincingly in the UFC. I don't know if there was 3026s across the board, but it was 3026. And Ascrov missed weight in his last appearance. So there's a lot of reasons to have Pantosia over here. And look, Askarov should get the next shot for sure.

Askrov doesn't even have to fight again. If you asked me, I think he should just to stay busy and what you probably wants to. But if he chooses to sit on the shelf, Ascarov has absolutely done enough to earn a title shot. I would have no problem if he's just like chilling for the next six months and says, hey, I got next. I got next if whoever wins the next title fight. But I like, I think that Bantosia title fight is more compelling. Again, he has the two wins over the champ.

It's so easy to sell. They just set it up on television right now. It's very present. Yeah. That's the fact to make. That's if they don't do the Ficky Trilogy, which I'm not against either. Just because I think that that's, you know, that's so well. But Pantosia is there.

He's done it. He did everything you need to do. He fought one of the best rounds of MMA this year, that round one. And then finishing Revile in round two. It's awesome. Just awesome. Oh, I loved, I loved Pantosia's call out. he was like, I beat him twice.

But then he goes, oh, that sounds kind of mean. It was like, well, I beat him, but he got better for my, he got better when I beat him. What's important is that you learned. You learn. When I learned. We all learned something. We all learned something became friends. So great performance.

And by it, Brandon Royval, he's clearly this guy who I don't know now if he's going to get that title fight. But boy, he's fun to watch. He's so fun. He's so unpredictable. I'm so amazing at scrambling. And again, if it wasn't a guy like as experienced, and as well-rounded as Pantosia, Roy Valle can steal fights from so many guys,

so many guys who higher ranking than him, better names. So I look forward to watching a fight, but Pantosia is just, I think, again, is one of the most underrated guys. And Pantosia beat my boy, Mano Cabe. He beat the best flyweight in the world. He did. He legit beat him. So he's got it.

He's got the thing. But I want to say my one complaint about that fight, it only lasted a round and a half. Yeah, I know. It was really exciting. Have you honestly, Was it that time you saw a fight And when it ended

You're like, man, I wish that would last The longer You know what I felt like this was one of those fights It's like, it can have gone to the third round No, Parker Porter and Chase Sherman I was like give me two more rounds I'm kidding by the way That wasn't an entertaining fight

It's just they cut a pretty fast pace To the first half of the fight for heavy weights And I'm like, there's no way they're keeping it So there's no way So those guys are tough as hell though So yes to Duke 732 and Jay in the comments, you're welcome that we acknowledge Ascarov. You don't need to be so insistence. And again, I'd have no problem with him getting the title fight. I just think Pantosia should be

first. And I don't see how anyone can disagree with that. We have bonuses. Oh, I'm sure it wasn't mine, but what are they? Maybe. Damon, just, did Damon? Our boy, Damon Martin, just threw them out there. Oh, here we go. No fight of the night. I'm okay, sure. I'm actually don't mind that. Bahamondes, like we said, was a lock. Pantoja, who I also said she get a performance bonus. And then you said Josia Nunez, she got it, and then they also

went with William Knight. I think that's pretty good. No problem. No issues of that. If they skip by the... I was going with the assumption the traditional fight of the night thing. But yeah, that sounds fine. No issues there. Who got... Anyone get... Oh, yeah, we talked about this before. If you got it, you got to finish, you...

Dana, throw them an extra 25K. Do something, man. Like, come on. Again, you know, us, we just say, yeah, it should be like 50,000, honestly, 50,000 for a finish, but they can't blow up the budget, Casey. They can't blow the budget, they can't blow the budget, you know. Those record, those record profits don't make themselves. So, but yes, congratulations to the bonus winners. I'll read them out again. That was William Knight, Ignacio Bahamondez, Josian Nunez, and Alexandria Pantoja.

Yeah, great performances up and down. Oh, you know what I get one? That's kind of insane. Oh, you missed a wait. No, go ahead. Sayyad, uh, Sayyed. I'll try and say it like John Anick says it. Sayyad Jakob Kakramanov. So that's, I always saw you old.

I was very impressed by that young man. And I understand he missed weight because of it. It was extremely short notice and traveling international. I am going to throw that weight miss away. Uh, sorry, I'm just jumping. I just remembered him like, there's so many fights tonight. That I, just, what weight class is he? He is a bantam weight.

So, and again, I don't think he would have too much. Another great, he's a guy. Another great Bantamweight. I'm not saying he's a great Bantamweight, but another just insane new talent, international talent too, just some dude from Uzbekistan, you know. And yeah, I love the, I love him in his Bantam weight all over the world. That's a great way, great, great. He's a great.

Yeah, MMA Twitter, was talking about him a lot going into this fight. So not surprising to some people. Again, some disappointed him about the missing weight, but he took the fight. I think he said four days notice. So, again, I don't like it. He couldn't even go to the fighter meetings where they talked to the, you know, D.C. And those guys go, hey, I did this, did that. He didn't because he was on a freaking plane from the other side of the world.

Get the guy a freaking break. And he still took his men away. All right. Parker, as we said, won an entertaining decision over Chase Sherman. Just a stand-up, slug-em-out fight. Yeah, Sayy Jakub Kakramanov With a technical submission over Trevin Jones Scary finish there

Vince Pichel solid three-round performance Against Austin Hubbard He's won three straight now Vince Bachel, one of those sleepers It's lightweight And then we said that Ben Yeah, Vince Chesell, man Just sneaking up of those rankings

Man, he's gonna be a tough fight for whoever next, yeah Pantosia beat Royval On the pre-limbs It was headlined by Austin Lingo With another, with a good Kind of come from behind win over, not comfortable. He lost the first round, won the next two. Great coaching by a safe suit,

as always. And then Brian Keller, a friend of the show, getting back in the win column with a very strong wrestling-based win over Domingo Palate. Yeah, look at Keller, expanding his mixed martial arts arsenal. Sure. Yeah. Business is booming. And I like to call out of the Geller.

Yeah, and I like to call out, you call out Amali. Yes. I think he's caught out Amali every, every fight. Yes. Good for him. He stuck with it. He stuck with it. And then, Josie, Nunez. Definitely one to watch. I assume she'll drop down to 125. She was a replacement opponent, I believe. So 135 just made sense for her. But she is a fierce, fierce puncher. I mean, there's a lot of, there's a little bit of Jessica Andrage in there. She's now eight and one, seven, seven knockouts career with my knockouts. So she is real. Personally, I hope she stays at 35 just because the 35 division is so shallow right now. We just need more fights. but I'm excited about seeing her again. And I'm actually excited about seeing Bay Malekhi.

Bay, is I you say, Bay Maliki? Bayeah, Bayeah Maleki. Even though she got knocked out, she's definitely a joy to watch fight. And I hope I'll see her back. It was an exciting fight. It was a very exciting fight. This one of those fights, look, Beia is a very technically strong fighter,

but man, sometimes there's no substitute for power. And this Nunea just has it. This Josian Nuneo just has it. William Knight. Real quick about the Muleki, to me, when I watched that fight, she made one of this, not trying to bring myself up, but because usually, say when you're sparring, and if you're consistently, the taller or longer fighter, you're getting really bad habits of just, I can just lean back from punches and stuff. And she literally did that with Nunes. And I think Maliki is like incredibly tall for her weight. And she's kind of got lazy.

Just kind of leaned back for arms down. And Nunez just like just got a little bit farther and boom, popped her. And like it was like and like the whole fight, Maliki has been way more technical, technical than that. And she just got lazy for a moment. And that's what happened. That's why this sport is so unpredictable.

You get lazy for a moment. You get knocked out. So, um, look, there is no, nothing, Maliki looked impressive, but she made a mistake and she paid for it big time.

There is, there is no preparing for that kind of power that Nunez brings and that kind of aggression. I don't care how technical you are, unless you're like an Israel, a sonya or something like that if someone has this kind of power, I mean, they're just, you know,

they're going to walk through your best stuff, they're going to take shots, they're going to come at you from weird angles, they're going to put pressure on you that you just cannot simulate in sparring, and sometimes you're going to get knocked out. I mean, you get caught, you get KO'd, right? So, Nunea's super fun to watch.

But yeah, Maliki is a skilled fighter, for sure. Speaking of power, William Knight, this guy works out, as we always say, and, man, it's funny. Sometimes, like, there's some ugly moments in his fights where you're like, oh man, he's just never, I don't think he's going to be able to find the range. But boy, when he does and he lands as one of those bombs, mercy me.

That guy's got some real, he's got some muscles, Casey. And there's legitimate punching power in those muscles. Those are not cosmetic, you know what I mean? Yeah, but you know, but you need a lot of blood, a lot of oxygen in those muscles. Yes. If William Knight, if his gas tank is still, you know, over 50% or whatever, He is, don't let him touch you. He just, he just flips that arm out.

Knock out, knock out. Like, that wasn't even a punch. I was just like, ugh. And knocked and knocked the Mr. Buffalo out. One of the better names in the sports. He's, uh, he's, uh, he grinded out kind of an ugly win over Camer. So there's something to this night guy besides just big finishes, but he certainly got one tonight. I wanted to remember.

We talked to about Hamondas a lot. Great performance. Roosevelt Roberts, Roosevelt Roberts is a talented guy. He's got to go back to the drawing board or something. He's got all the gifts and tools to be, I think, a legitimate, like, top 20 lightweight, and it just, he just hasn't been able to put it together. But Bahamanda stole his thunder, and I think one of the, I would put that in my top five knockouts to the earth right now. I threw it up there on our kind of gallery of, you know, something to keep track of.

Yeah, that knockout was awesome. And especially coming at the last five seconds of a fight when he was pretty much cruising to a decision victory at that point. and then he goes like, you know what? I got a little bit more in the gas thing. I'm going to spin around a couple more times and see what happens. Yeah, a lot of guys wouldn't do that. A lot of guys, you look at the clock, you cruise,

your corner's probably saying like, you know, you hear the clapper. You're the clapper. You're like, oh, okay, what's good? And it wasn't, it wasn't Roberts that was throwing just a hell-marry spinning, you know, hill kick. Yeah. You know, you know, you know, I don't know if, you know,

I don't know if, I got to watch it. I think Roberts looked like he was super gas, but I think that was just from getting beat up a lot, to be honest. I got, well, Bahamanda said himself, he was kicking him in the body a lot. And then he's like, I was landing the body kick at will. And I just said, F it. I'm going to go.

And then he hit an elbow and then followed with the spin kick. And he blamed, he's blamed his corner. Poor Balal Muhammad, he said, for teaching him, teaching him all the bad words in English. So, so, Ignat. And more compliments to the UFC production crew. Was that the fight where Muhammad was actually in the studio? Yeah. And they cut him and he ran out there.

Just good TV. Great TV. I think production top to bottom has been, I mean, maybe not just on this card, but particularly tonight was really, really good.

Yeah, it was. I thought they had caught a lot of great moments. They perfectly captured, oh, it was Bahamundas who his entry was this very serene song and he just let out this absolute scream and I thought it was captured perfectly

on the broadcast and also hilarious. And then the opening fight, Bramiz, Brahimaj, getting to show his awesome submission skills and getting choking Sasha Plotnikov unconscious. Yeah. That's probably the last. we'll see a lightning cough in the UFC

Maybe he's a great story But yeah one and two now in the UFC And two straight Brinacichoke finishes Yeah so Grappling defenses need some work Casey we've got some time Let's get some questions here

For we yes Sure Questions and comments I'm gonna go back to everyone's old questions But if you have any new ones Throw them in I will try to get them Now is the time to spam

Guys you were spent I know you guys love to spam Now is the time to spam please All right here we go Here we go Do do do Let's throw a comment It's just a compliment.

I like compliments. The best, no, thank you. Thank you, guys. I said, we've kind of been, we've been picking up the slack a little this weekend. Some of our boys, again, much, much needed vacations. These guys work so damn hard. I have no problem.

You know, it's great that they're taking some time off. And I cannot wait to see Mike again and Jose and, you know, everyone else. So thanks, Al Mack. Thank you. Really? Wait, just take the compliment. Is that about us in, like, those guys, whoever, yeah, it's us. I mean, I don't want to say we're better than them anyway,

regardless of whether. here or not, but that's what was implied. Okay, it was implied. All right, all right, right. I think, yeah. Is this what we're talking about maybe? Oh, my God. I already got to deal with this on Twitter.

Jessica Crystal Crew, he's sponsored by the Crystal Council. He gets those for free. So, and Diamond emoji, Sparkly emoji, Diamond emoji, Sparkly Moj. Obviously, he's talking about Jared Cannoneer, who, even though he is broke, apparently, that doesn't matter. Crystles are not part of his budget. He is getting crystals, uh, gratis, as it were. So I have some crystals from the Crystal Council.

They're sent right next to me. They are enlightening me. They're, I'm putting the energy, the positive aura or whatever crystals. I don't know, you know, crystal stuff. Crystal Council, if you're out there, I'm just going to let you know, that's an automatic return to sender. If I see that package come my way, so what do we go here? Oh, yeah, we didn't talk about this. It's common great.

Don't play with me. the best line of the night that was uh of the of the night best line of the night well double entendre by our boy scott uh don't play that was directed at you kacey yeah who uh during the pre-fight q and a was like i don't really know if william knight's gonna make it as a contender don't play with him case you don't play with him okay i still put i still feel that way about mr knight but i also agree i do not want to play with him i would so we're don't do not do not play right I got Fabio Chirant learned that the hard way that I do not play around with friggin' William Knight.

Jeez Louise. Al Mack again. Casey's favorite fight was Porter Sherman without it. It was a good fight. That fight ruled. It was such heavyweight MMA. Oh my gosh. I loved it so much.

I loved, I love heavyweight MMA because it always goes to distance. I feel like. It was like, oh, it was just great. Did either guy even get dropped? It was just they just kind of kept hitting each other. No. No. Chase Sherman loves to walk through punches.

Like, he's actually a good striker. He has no defense. Like, he's just, his defense is hit me in the face. You're not going to knock me out. Yeah. Hit me in the face. Keep hitting me. It's like, okay.

I felt like we were watching. I felt like we were watching. I felt like I was watching a bare knuckle fight with MMA gloves. That's what it felt like. I had that kind of like I couldn't have seen those same guys by last, was it last night? Yeah, last night at bare knuckle. So. And so someday you probably will.

Yeah. Casey, are there any questions to get any questions? Of course we got questions, man. You have questions. Scott McCrae. Pantosier-Royvout delivered the cannibal, one fair and square. But did you have an issue with Mark Smith dismissing Roy Val's alleged eye poke? I think Herb did it to Calvin as well.

I remember the Calvin. No, it was cannoneer who was complaining about the iPogue, wasn't it? In the gasoline fight at the end? Maybe I wasn't watching closely enough. Here's the thing. Generally, I don't have any issue. with referees dismissing eye pokes.

It's obviously depends if there's an obvious one. But I'd have to see that again. So I apologize guys if there was like a blatant eye poke and referee Mark Smith missed it. But there's a lot of times complain about just like getting hit in the face or getting punched in the eye. It does feel like an eye poke, yeah. Sure.

And if it happens so fast, if you're the guy getting hit by it, you don't know the difference. Was it a finger? Was it a guy's knuckle? It's like you got hit in the eye. You know, you don't know. So if it's hard for the fighter to even know, it's almost as hard for the referee to know

because he might just not see at the right angle. Again, it could have been a punch that just happened really quickly. You don't want to go to the replay right away to look at something like that. So, no, I don't really have an issue with that kind of thing normally. Again, I'll have to see that look at that clip again specifically. I would say this about iPoks. For the most part, the refs have to take the fighter's word for it

because honestly, eye pox are too fast. You just can't tell. They're just going on this. I mean, unless you really see a clean punch that lands right there. And I think there was one tonight where someone got, I can't remember now, someone did get punched right in the eye,

but it was clearly a punch in the rep. And I think I was like, ah, you know, but I don't remember that fight. But no, I don't take the issue. Back to the question, I don't take any issue. No, I don't think there was any eye poke controversy tonight. I'm just going to quickly touch upon this one

from our pal Joseph Boza. He says, we kind of talked about it before. Does Calvin get his, walking paper papers is what he says what people don't realize is that five of his last six fights have been losses and i'd say the opposite i think a lot of people know that five his last six fights have been losses what they don't think of is who he's lost to actually that's that's that's really what's i think a lot of people know he's in a he's in a bit of a slump right now but um yeah look at the names right the only losses he looked really bad in the hermannson first round submission

that's fine yeah caught you know whatever and and and and and and and whittaker who is the number two middleweight in the world um and that's it those are two guys fights where i thought he was like clearly, you know, just beaten. I don't think there's any shame in that. Darren Till, you could argue he won as a really close fight. So, no, I think the quality of competition matters. And like I said, Kelvin, how old is Kelvin Gassolm? It's 29.

29. If, if the, you know who would love for him to get his walking papers? Scott Coker, because I guarantee you, Kelvin Gassum in the Beloitr cage would be awesome. I would help Calvin want to go do PFL. I would like to see him try to get a show. Whatever. Either way, there'll be lots of bidders out there. Calvogasm is still an elite middleweight. That's all. There was no middleweight division in PFL this year, unfortunately, though, so he might have to go up to 205, which would just be hilarious.

All right. Ah, John Daniel. Which of these two fighters needs to consider changing weight classes more? Polarte or Gatsula? Polarte, I assume, going up, right? Pallarte is super tall, right? Yes. So Prolopte is six feet tall. He's a pretty gigantic. Okay, look, consider it if it was like, if it was like anything was possible, clearly Gaslam. Gaslam at 170, I think is a much more viable contender. But I just don't know if he wants to make that lifestyle change to do it.

Why? Why would he need to go to 170? He's fought. He's small. He's small at 105. He's competitive. Incredibly competitive fights. Incredibly competitive. But here's the thing, Casey, but here's the difference. Here's difference. He's competitive in one and five.

At Walterway, I think he could actually, like, be a winner. There's a difference. You're right. But this is the question that's being asked. That 15 pounds makes a huge difference. And size, the amount of reach he's always giving up, that's huge. That's the difference between being competitive and actually winning fights, which I think to him should matter.

To us, it might not matter. I think to him it should matter. I think he just needs to reevaluate who he's booked against. And was he Ali his manager? Yeah, I think Ali's, Calvin's one of Ali guys, right? Don't remember. Whatever. Well, his manager needs to get him.

He needs, for me, if I'm Kelvin Gassan, I just, you know, you know what? You just say, I'm not going to fight for the belt for the next two years. I am, what I will do is fight. I'll do this, I'll give me the Sean O'Malley route and give me guys outside of the top 25 for your next three fights. You know, unfortunately, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe. that UFC won't want to pay him as much, I don't know. But he needs, to me, three solid wins. Two of those wins can be guys easily outside the top 25.

Throw me a name on the roster, and whoever that guy lost against, Kelvin fights that guy. That's what, to me, I'm pumped Kelvin. I think he's fine at 85. I think he looks great at 85. Yeah, he's small. So what? But he's not winning. Because he's not winning.

A lot of people aren't winning. A lot of Ian What is he in high But at some point At some point though You're banging your head against the wall And you have to ask what you can change You can't you can't just say well

I mean yes you change your person in front of you Change your person in front of you But eventually you're going to run into these guys again I think Eventually you're going to run these guys again Calvin Gasman Right The reason Calvin is awesome

Because he can strike his super fast hands And he can take a shot If you go down to 170 I guarantee he would not be able to take the same punishment Oh I disagree I think it translates completely We've seen him fight at 170. We know how good he is.

Like, it's not like this is theoretical. We know, even though he struggled to make the weight, he was, he was really, really good at 170. He's never like, who was it? Esther, Lynn. I don't think. I don't think he's good at one set. I think he's good at 185. And he's just, and like, what is wrong with being a top 10 middleweight?

He's just losing the guys better than. But what if he could be a top five welterweight? There's a big difference. I just don't think he's a top five. I don't think he's not a top five watch a weight. But he, well, but we know he's not a top five middleweight anymore and maybe never will be.

So it's like, again, you can, so how, you know what I'm? It's like, how can he just keep bumping his head against the same wall? Do you think he loses against Jared Karen near 10 at 10 times?

I mean, probably. What? What if it's seven, what if it's seven out of ten times? No. What if it's, like it's,

it's, and again, it doesn't matter because that's, it's a nice hypothetical, but it doesn't matter. We know his limitations. And to say that size didn't make a difference in that fight, I think it makes a huge difference,

huge difference. I don't think so. I think he's good at 1.8. Well, he lost. He lost. It's a good fight, but he lost. Oh my God. Who are other middleweights?

I got to bring the middleweight roster up. Do it bring it up. But I'll just say, here's his losses at 170. He only lost to bring in Tyron. What year? What year was that? this.

2015. He only lost. Six years ago, man. Six years ago. I'm just saying we've seen. We've seen him fight. Oh, he's supposed to fight at 170. He weighed in at,

he went in at 180 for that fight? Yes. He went to the hospital. Remember he'd go to the hospital because his weight cuts were so bad. Gross. But either way, he fought Taran Woodley with like a weight advantage and loss.

I don't know. So that split decision and Neil Magny, split decision. So he only lost split decisions at 170. I'm just saying. I'm just saying. If he could make it, I think it would be great. But the other half of the question for John Polarte,

I actually would like to see him go up. I do wonder if cutting down to 135 is just, again, it's not going to fix, you know, any wrestling deficiencies. Though I think, is it fair to say there's less standout wrestlers at 145, Casey, the UFC? Sorry, I'm just trying to get. I'm not crazy, right? The UFC website. We're moving on from atrocious.

Horrible. I'm trying to buy it. We're moving. We've been on this question way too long anyway, Casey. We've got to move on from Gasolum. But I'm not crazy saying 145 has less elite wrestlers than 135, right? 135 is a lot of powerful wrestlers. Have you actually gone to the UFC website in a while?

All right. It is a mess. All right. You are, I can see you're going to be stuck on this restaurant. Let's move on to another question. There are so many guys who aren't in the UFC anymore listed in the wrong. Okay, sorry. There we go.

Are we? Jeffrey Ortega, Alex Kali, dying to talk about CM Punk and Brock Lesnar. Not really. Again, we talked about CM Punk, I think, on... Are Q&A. Yeah. Brock Lesnar, I love it. He looked like an asshole.

And I mean that in the best possible way. If anyone finds screenshots of his return at SummerSlam tonight. But I don't have a lot to say about it. I don't really keep up with the WWE. I should say, I keep up with it. I don't really watch it as much anymore. But cool that he's back. Make that money, Brock, as I always say.

And again, he looks like a total asshole. And in the pro wrestling business, that's a good thing. So, congrats to him for getting back. And again, sure, securing another, another fat bag as Brock Lesnar does. WWE sucks. And Bianca Blair got hoagued tonight. Good to see, good to see Becky Lynch back. But that was a rough segment.

I don't know what they were thinking. That's horrible. All right. What are we got here? The question. Let's got a couple. Let's got a couple more. It's got a couple more.

Oh, hold on. Someone's... M.A. Woggers. Oh, MMA. Everyone's favorite German account. M.M.A. M.M.A. Vaggers. Oh, sorry. I did you throw it up there?

Oh, no. No, just, but, um, just a, oops, sorry. Is that it? Yeah. Yanez versus... I saw. I saw it. Yanez versus Kelleher. Sure. Yeah, I think it makes sense. I think 35 is so loaded. You can't really screw that. You can't really screw that up, to be honest, so.

Uh, do, do, do, do, do. I like that. Eshmael C. Killa Gorilla changed his name to the Crystal Gorilla. No, he shouldn't. Okay, that question has been answered. That's what else? I'm amazed he hasn't.

Yeah. I'm really surprised he hasn't. Oh, it's like this one, actually. Oh. Samuel Spencer. Does anyone else think Cordero's corner work with his two fighters has, with his top fighters, I say that means, has been bad lately, giving a lot of undesirable. deserve confidence in seams.

I don't think it's ever bad to give them that kind of confidence. I assume, Samuel here, Sam, thank for the question. I assume staying here specifically after round three. I don't know if you said that. Casey, he told Calvin that he was up two rounds to one. And this was after, I think he assumes Gaslam had won the first two round. I think he thought he'd one, which is fine, which is fine. And I think he thought he wound one, one, one, where was the knockdown?

Was that round two? Dogged down was round three, and that was clearly, obviously, that was clearly, uh, Canineers round. Yes. So he thought he won the first two. The point being, this is almost an open scoring question, but. Oh, shoot. We're not going to get into it.

We're not going to get into it. We're not going to get into it. But I agree with, I think Cordero actually did Kelvin a disservice tonight or his camp in the sense that in that fifth round in Canaaner's corner, they told him, we think you're up. or something like that. We think you're up, but you still got to win this round. You still got to win this fight,

you know, or something like that. And in Kelvin's corner, they basically told him, you just, if you win this round, you win the fight. And he won the round

and he lost the fight. So clearly they were wrong. They had, they interpreted the fight wrong. And corners need to remember if it is a close round, you have to assume your fighter lost that round.

You just have to. Because if you tell Kelvin, Imagine if Kelvin come out for fifth round, main event, you tell him, hey, just win this round, the fight's yours, you got it. And Kelvin wins the round, you know? But if you tell him, dude, if you don't knock this guy out, you lose the fight. You can win this round, you will lose the fight. You have to knock out Jared Cannonier this round.

You have five minutes to knock him out. You have to. And they didn't tell him that. And that changes the fighter's strategy. And it doesn't matter what a great round Kelvin had that round. He was going to lose the fight regardless, unless he, of course, he had to take. 10-8 round. Well, the counter argument to that, though, is Casey, is that if your fighter is up,

you don't want them to take a risk that might result in them getting knocked out. So if you are, again, and I'm not talking about this fight specifically, but in general, if you think your guy is up, let's say, three rounds to one in a championship fight, even if it was three close rounds, if you're, like, confident enough that they won those first three rounds, the last thing you want to do is tell them, oh, you need to get a finish here to make sure we get it. And then they end up getting creamed because they're taking risks that they wouldn't normally take when they're trying, you know, just trying to win a round, right?

Or play it safe. So there is a time to tell fighters to play it safe. But I get what you're saying. In this particular case, Cordero should not have been as confident. So, yeah, so winning the fifth was pointless. But in general, there is an argument for it. Kelvin actually did what the coaches told him to do. He actually followed the game plan and he won the fifth round.

And that's why Kelvin was like, what do you mean? I lost the fight. My coaches told me I win this round. I win the fight. And that sucks for Kelvin. I'm not saying Cordy was a bad coach, obviously. He's one of the greatest coaches ever in mixed martial arts. It's just unfortunate that, you know, they as coaches, you know, you're always going to be biased.

You know, it's just how it is. But you should have recognized it was, they were close rounds. And I don't know. That sucks for Kelvin. And I'm not saying that the fight's different. You know, whatever happens, I don't know who knows. But Kelvin got the wrong advice coming into that fifth round as far as the score. And that did affect the outcome of the fight.

right. Yes. But again, like I said, if he was confident that they had won the first three rounds, which you shouldn't have been, which he shouldn't have been, oh, sorry, two of the first three rounds in this case. If he was confident that they really did went two of the first three rounds, I understand the just win this one and we're good. But yes, so the argument is also, it's not just about giving you their fighter confidence. They also got to be a little bit better on reading what the judges might be seeing. And yeah, in a fight like this, assuming we could be down three one, let's try and get the finish. But again, I don't think it's a cut and dry situation.

I understand why Cordero would not give that advice in the situation. But what else we got, Casey? Do you, do, do, do, do, do, do, do. Is that Fezic in the back? Hey, Fezik. Okay. Okay. I don't know all your pets.

Hi, Fezik. That's such a great, that's such a great dog name. I just love, that's such a great dog. That's such a great dog. Nezik, shake. Shake. Shake, shake. Take, shake.

All right, she's out of it. The dog's wasted. You know what, sir? I think we answered almost everything about this. Let's go. Let's end with the comment then. What do we got? Let's give the people.

Give the people. Give me comments. Give me comments, people. Let me throw us in it. No questions. What do you think about tonight's card? Be nice. Be nice.

Yeah, yeah. Be nice. While you're doing that looking, Casey, let me say there will be an on to the next one on Sunday for anyone who tuned in late and is asking, yes, I will probably be teaming up with M.A. fighting Stephen Morocco as our Mike Heck is getting. getting some much needed R&R, but there will be on to the next one, maybe a little later than usual and a little bit more of me hosting than usual.

But you guys should be used to by now if you watch the preview show, Q&A. Who won the Pacquiao fight? Plus by now. Pacio lost. Oh, yes. Ogus? Who's the guy? Ugas?

Yeah, I'm not even sure. All I know, it was a high risk, low reward type fight. That's what people. And it sounds like the judges got it right. Like, no controversy. Like, yeah, it was. Everyone was expecting BS, and he actually. I know.

Yeah, everyone's like, oh. Well, apparently, it wasn't like a runaway performance. So people were like, okay, well, it wasn't like a blowout. But like if the judges know what they're doing, there should be a clear Ugas win. But then there's the, if the judges, boxing judges know what they're doing thing. But apparently the judges actually got this one right. All around judging.

Excellent work. All around. Yeah. Come on, guys. Give me some good ones. Oh, here we go. I know. I see a lot of sensible comments.

Ogas one. Thank you. Thanks, Almak. Thank you. Yes. I believe two of the judges, that was the score. for two of the judges cards. 1.15, 113.

Would you all talk to Stone Zebra? Would you all talk to? What do you want to talk to? What do you want us to talk to them about? We talk to them all the time. Talk to him all the one all the time. You want us to talk to about pro wrestling? Or the New York Knicks?

Don't get them started. Don't get them started. Believe me. It'll never. What's worse? Talking out of Shoddy by the Suns or talking to Eric by the Knicks? What's worse?

Oh, God. It's like equal. Oh. The prelims were dope. True flower. Yeah, they were. Yeah, man. They were very dope.

The only fight that was kind of uneventful was the Keller her win. But, I mean, it was a good, you know, it was a good performance from him, just wasn't a back and forth. But I actually like the Lingo-Seldana fight, too. Actually, there's a lot to see there as well. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, do-d-d-d-d-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do. Yeah, no.

Haywood Jablomi. Classic, classic name. a couple of donks arguing. Yeah. All right. Casey, I guess that's it. I guess that sums up the show.

That sums up the show. Yeah, yeah, it sums it up. Yeah, it sums up. All right, guys.

Well, apologies to any questions or comments of this quality that we didn't get around to. But thank you guys for tuning in. Like we said, we'll probably have more of a full crew in the weeks to come.

Everyone's taking so much needed time off. Thank you, Casey. Best producer in the biz, always keeping this thing together. And this is Alexander Cayley signing off for tonight. Keep your eye on MNBFighting.com. We have a lot more coverage coming tonight and Sunday and Monday. And next week, next Sunday, right?

Is it Sunday? Oh, yeah, I'll be there. I'll be there. I'm going to Cleveland Tuesday. I forgot. Okay, so Casey might not be with us on the post-fight shows. I don't know, but he will be in Cleveland, August 29. It's Sunday, right?

Yeah, whatever next Sunday is. Yeah, we'll have a post show. We'll be doing all the Woodley Paul stuff. Totally forgot. The most anticipated fight of the month, Jake Paul versus Tart Woodley. Yes, guys, we will have a lot of coverage for that.

So please join us. Who got? Who you got? D.M. Punk's going to go over. He's going to go first. He's not going to job at those right now. Thank you, everyone. So much MMA stuff next week.

And, and Boxing. Have a great week. Yeah. Have a great week. Go, go, go, go. And, hey. Go, go hug someone. Yeah, go hug someone.

Don't read a book. That's what it's a time. Good night, guys.