MMA Fighting - UFC Vegas 44 Post-Fight Show | Reaction to Jose Aldo vs. Rob Font | Best Fight Night of 2021?

Episode Date: December 5, 2021

Jose Aldo turned back the clock with a brilliant performance against Rob Font in the main event of UFC Vegas 44. Where do both fighters go from their battle inside the UFC APEX? That question is answered, along with discussions about Rafael Fiziev's KO over Brad Riddell, Jamahal Hill's destruction of Jimmy Crute, Chris Curtis' shocking KO over Brenden Allen, and much more with MMA Fighting’s José Youngs, Shaheen Al-Shatti, Alex K. Lee, and E. Casey Leydon. Follow José Youngs: @JoseYoungs Follow Alex K. Lee: @AlexanderKLee Follow Shaheen Al-Shatt: @ShaunAlShatti Follow E. Casey Leydon: @ekc Subscribe: http://goo.gl/dYpsgH Check out our full video catalog: http://goo.gl/u8VvLi Visit our playlists: http://goo.gl/eFhsvM Like MMAF on Facebook: http://goo.gl/uhdg7Z Follow on Twitter: http://goo.gl/nOATUI Read More: http://www.mmafighting.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

You're listening to the Vox Media Podcast Network. Oh, your host, Shaheen. Oh, yeah. I like this. I like this lead in. Welcome all. My goodness, what a night it has been. This is the UFC Vegas 44 post-fight show here on MMA fighting.

Thank you, everyone, for joining us. My goodness, I am still recovering from what we just saw. My name is, of course, Sean Oshadhi. I am joined by the whole crew. It's a party here tonight. We got Jose Youngs. We got the Prince of Positivity, Mr. Alexander K. Lee. And we have the best producer in the business.

E. Casey Layton. And we're here to break down all the action we just saw. And fellas, what a night. It was a super entertaining card all around. Finishes galore. Probably one of the best fight nights we have seen all year. But all the top it. The main story.

The King of Rio, Jose Aldo, the underdog, the legend. He does it again, guys. The underdog. The underdog. At age 35, this man is still doing it. 50, 45, 50, 45, 45, 49, 46. He wins a unanimous decision over Rob Font. That's three straight now, fellas.

I'm just going to jump right to you, Jose, because I am still, again, recovering from what we just saw. Unbelievable throwback performance from the former champion. What do you make of what we just saw tonight? I mean, it was a wicked fight. And I think that's kind of what we needed with Jose Aldo, because we've seen him dominate his last two fights. Like a lot of people have been, like,

I know Habib is kind of the outlier and saying that you can't really turn back the clock when it comes to, like, being a championship caliber fight after a certain point in your fight career. And after the Yon fight, which I've been saying forever, the Peir Yon versus Josealdo fight, I think is an often overlooked banger of a fight. Like, until Josealdo kind of wilted under the might of Peirion,

that fight was awesome. It was incredibly competitive. It was crazy competitive. incredibly incompatitive. He, like, let's not forget, he dropped Peter Ian on the leg kick, like, kicked his legs out right from underneath them, and then Pierre Jan did what Peter Yan does and just kind of beat the soul out of his opponent. But since then, Jose Aldo has kind of made light work of all these elite bantam weights. And I think it's going to be weird to say, but I think we needed this.

We needed this back and forth war because, like, we've seen him dominate, but I wanted to see him kind of face adversity at bantamweight against a high-level fighter and come back and win. I mean, a lot of people scored that first round for Aldo based off of the last 10 seconds because he did the most damage. But Rob Font looks pretty fantastic for like the first four minutes of that first round. And I was like, oh, this might be a long night for Josealdo. Rob Font seems to have some sort of game plan that can kind of counter Josaldo's like angles and his fantastic footwork and everything. And then Jose Alzo just kind of crumbled him with a one-two. And then from there it was a pretty fantastic back and forth war.

I think it's pretty easy to say. I think we can all be in agreement fight of the night. It's pretty obvious the main event between Rob Fond, Josie Aldo. So for me, this is the type of performance I needed to see from Joseoaldo, a back and forth war where he does come out on top against a very high level top five banterweight. This isn't like a top, this isn't 10 of six. This is top five bantamemate that Jose Alito just had a like top five fight of the year against. Yeah, no one, no one does that to Rob Fon.

And Jose Alta just did that to Rob Fon. Jose Alta, you mentioned it, that first round. It looked like Jose Alto was going to be. in some trouble pretty early on. And then he kind of turns the tide there at the end, gets that sort of knock down, drops him. And then from that point on, it was that,

that was the story of the fight, right? Jose And al-Ondo's power versus whatever volume Rob Font was able to mount. He's even really kind of dropping him with a leg kick during that third round. It was just starting to build and build. And it looks like poor Rob Fon had a broken orbital by the end of that.

It looked like both of them might have. But yeah, it was just nasty, nasty stuff. Nearly gets the rear naked choke here at the end of the last second, too. I mean, AK, it's just unbelievable. I saw this on Twitter tonight. I apologize to whoever tweeted it. I forgot who tweeted it.

But Jose Aldo is younger than Francis and Gano. Like, I don't even understand what to make it. Even if I already knew that, just hearing that sentence is mind-blowing. What are your takeaways from this throwback vintage performance we saw? I'm AK Lee. This is my opinion. All right, that's, yeah, sorry. Oh, sorry.

I apologize. able to comment on YouTube. This is Luke at Luke CZE representing Canada and the Chuck Republic said, can we all just take a minute to appreciate the absolute legend that is Jose Aldo? There's a smorgasbord, great use of the word, of new age fans who dismiss him as the 13th second guy, absolutely one of the goats. Yeah, I think we all agree with that sentiment. That was just fantastic to watch. I mean, I think we've been saying all we can lead up what a privilege it is to still get to see him fight. You mentioned his age, Shane.

It is kind of like, it is kind of strange when you frame it that way, when you compare him, or that he's only one year older than Rob Font, and he has so much mileage on him. And then there was that just that little dip, that little dip in his career, the end of featherweight, kind of the beginning of phantom weight, where people were starting to question whether, you know, he still had all the capabilities that he did.

He might be at like 90% of, what he once was, maybe even 80%. But boy, 80% of Josie Aldo is still absolutely spectacular. And poor Rob Font was on the receiving end of so much of it today. He won a lot of aspects of the fight. I thought Rob Fon's

leg kick game looked great. As you said, the first four minutes of the opening round, that was all Rob Fon. He was doing great. He wasn't landing anything like super hard, but it was like, yeah, he looked like what we thought he was. You know, the next contender at 135. And then once Aldo turned those lasers on, man, he gets the knockdown.

That right hand was just absolute dynamite throughout the fight. There was one sequence, I think, near the end of the second, which prompted me to go to tweet out, imagine fighting Josie Aldo. And it was the sequence where he just slipped every shot that font through and landed a counter every time. It was just insane. Again, for a guy who, like we said, is forget the fact that he's 35 has been fighting for, I think, but what, 17, 16 years now. He's been fighting for a long time.

has a lot of mileage, nothing but elite opponents for the majority of his career. And for him to get it done again, I had picked against him, once again proving I am a fool, my picks are the worst. Happy to be wrong, Jose Aldo. So spectacular to watch and just, you know, so much greatness still ahead of him. I mean, AK, I think it's fair to say we're all fools to some degree. Because when this whole thing started, when Jose Aldo moved down to Bantamway told the world that he was doing this, I feel like the big response from almost everybody, right? It was just this is, this is not a good idea.

Like, this is a guy who's historically struggled to make featherweight and you're going to cut down 10 more pounds and it sort of felt like he was in that last chapter of his career. I just don't even know how to react to this anymore. I mean, we saw this a couple months ago when Jose Aldo did this in his last fight against Pedro Munoz, but this was even more impressive. I think people have been pegging Rob Fawn as a future champion in this division

and to go out there in 50, 45 him on two judges' scorecards. I mean, Casey, can you believe? that this is still happening, man. Absolutely. It's freaking Josiah Otto. That's all. It's like, y'all must have forgot. I don't get, I picked Josiah Otto.

I was, I wasn't confident, but like, I knew, I knew, I, Joe Zahos is still just a tough, tough dude. Raffaunt is not really known for his power. I, I figured if Ropont was going to win. It was going to be like how the first, no, four minutes of round one was going to go. But he was going to have to put a serious hurting on Auto. and I don't know if that was going to come with Ropat's style. It might have won him a decision,

but I don't know if he was going to, he necessarily had that power to really hurt auto, which I think what you need. But, man, it's Jose Auto. I don't know. He just got more weapons. I think, you know, we were talking to his best boxer, best boxer. People kind of forgot.

Josie Otto is an amazing boxer. The way he slips punches. Facts. Yeah, it just, the way he slips punches. He brought back his freaking leg kicks again, and that leg kick just, took away Rob Fons's jab. I'm kind of surprised.

None of us kind of talked about that, actually. I think we, it's just, those late kicks just took away Rob's jab. And then, no, Rob would kind of come of power and stuff, but the power wasn't enough. We've had the jab to set it up to really hit Josie Auto hard enough. So, yeah, 50-45. That's how I scored it. Awesome, awesome, awesome. Just vintage Josie Otto.

Vintage. I mean, Casey, you're out here. a resident fighter right now. You're training for your amateur debut. How much money would I have to pay you to take a Josaldo leg gig? Right now, like at age 35 for him. Oh, that was, it was, it was just, it was snap a leg. It was just, it was snap a leg. I was just, I mean, let me call HR and tell him I'll be out for two weeks, you know, but and no. Two weeks. Yeah. That's it. You look at a month, man. It was, it was, it was suck. Yeah, just and I don't, yeah, Jose Otto.

And as long as he still is that chin, as long as he's still tough and he's so defensively sound, he's good to go for a while. I don't, and I guess I don't understand him making 35, that just doesn't make sense. It doesn't make sense, but because he,

we saw him almost die up, no, die, you know, he looked horrible at 45. And maybe, yeah, I guess he was, I guess he's just trying harder now.

I don't know. Is there any other fighter that had equal success? coming down and wait like this? Jessica Andrade, uh, from 135 to 115, uh, but Jose, but there was no one, but the only reason why there was no 115 when Jessica and Jodz came into the UFC. I would say that's a bit of exception, but I understand, yeah, but it's, it's very rare. It's very rare for what Joseo has. Jose Al do you said he's kind of taking, like, remember the old videos of the Novo Niao gym

where they were like cutting weight like on the roof of their gym like, seen and it's not, like. And then their ice baths were literally like trash buckets filled with ice. Like they're not doing that anymore. So I think they're taking much. And he spends a lot of time in Florida. I think he has a house in Florida too. So I think he's bouncing back and forth, doing it smart.

I think a lot of us kind of just were worried that Josie Otto would kind of go to Hennon Borrell route in terms of his career. Hennon Burrell, remember? It felt like that might have, there was like a small window where that might have happened. When Hennon morale, he was talking about, he's the greatest bansom way ever. No, Jose Otto was the greatest, no further way ever. They lose your titles. Everyone loses their titles.

That happens. But how do you are, is he still going to be in a top fighter? Pen and Brow clearly fell fast. Josiotto, like AK said, maybe went from 100% to 85%. But that 85% is still a top five bantam weight in the world. And that's incredible. He's only lost to, he's lost to, yeah, champions. Champions.

That's it. I'm not counting. I'm not even counting the Marlon fight because I don't know anyone that thinks Marlon won that fight. I had Barton win in fact, but it was incredibly competitive. I know what you're saying. I know what you're saying. But like Jan Volcanowski and Holloway, that's it.

And those are clear losses. And Martin fought part title contender, yeah. Jose, I want to stay on this because you guys talked about the stakes heading into this fight and what really the win could mean for either man, whether it was more important for who to win. And now we're seeing it. I mean, Jose Aldo is a player in this Bantamweight division. It felt like people had kind of moved on from him and sort of that title conversation. after the Peter Yan fight, but he's here and he's making it clear that he's not going away.

This division is just so muddled right now. It's so bizarre. We don't really have any clarity or finality with the championship picture, obviously with Aljo and Jan. And then you have T.J. Dillishaw sort of waiting in the wings as well. I mean, does this win and does the way that this fight played out tonight for you, does this simplify the Bantamweight division a bit in your eyes heading into 2022 or does it make it a little more complicated?

Like, where do you feel like we are right now at 135? I mean, Al Jermaine Sterling is talking on the post-fight show right now on ESPN, so I have absolutely no idea if he's giving an update on his health. But if Al-Rermaine, because let's not forget, T.J. Yulishaw is a knee completely blew out against Corey Sennig. So theoretically, Al-Germaine and T.J. aren't going to be ready to fight anytime soon. So if they're going to give a title fight to, like, if Pior-Yon's going to pull the Hennon-Barrou out and defend an interim title, next man up is Josie Aldo. And like I said, Aldo Yon won.

that fight was awesome until it wasn't. And because we all saw Dana White like yell at the ref at that documentary where he thought it should have been stopped sooner. Like who else is Aldo left to fight? Marab. I don't think anyone's claiming out the bits to see Maraub Josiah. I mean, that fight rules.

I'm sure Josaldo would take it, but stylistically, that might be a nightmare matchup for him. And then after that, I think it's just selfishly. I want to see the Dominic Cruz fight, but Josealdo said a million times he only wants to fight up. He doesn't really like he respects Dominic Cruz and maybe that happens. He's so far ahead at this point.

I know. Exactly. Like, but that's like if you look at MMA fighting's rankings, Bannonweight rankings like Al Jaze's Algo's number six. Number six, he's next man up and Marab seven. He already fought Marlon.

Kioji's obviously and Sergio aren't in the UFC, beat Pedro Munoz, beat Marlon. Cody's at Flyway. And then Dominic is highest ranked one. He hasn't fought outside of Marab that he could possibly fight. Like if anyone's going to get a lot. If Al J. are on the shelf for the indefinite future,

Jan Aldo, I am totally fine with. A.K. Jose is all sold on this. Would you push Aldo ahead of T.J. Dillashaw now? Do you feel like that's where the cue is, the pecking order for you? If T.J. is ready to go in, like, April, then it's T.J. Yon all the way. Okay. How would you would you? Yeah. Yeah, I know. I think that's the right take. I mean, again, I really want to see Aldo fight Dillishaw. I think it was the right.

call out to make, but again, the timing, as Jose said, the timing just might not line up. If there is some, if by the end of, or like the middle of January, end of January, we have some idea when Dillard shall come back, even if it means Aldo having to sit in the shelf for like seven, eight months, I still think he should wait for that fight. But then again, but then again, Jan is going to have to stay busy. It's true. He has to fight somebody. He has to fight somebody.

So did Aldo definitively show? ahead of Dillishab this win. I don't think so. I think, unfortunately, he will have to fight someone else. It's going to be screwy because, again, he can't really fight. We don't know what's going to happen with Cruz.

He's going to fight Munoz first. I don't think any, and if Munoz beats Cruz, I don't think anyone's clamoring for an Aldo Munoz rematch. So very, very tricky situation. Again, it's a great division. It's so deep and it's so busy,

which is good, except for a little bit of a cluster at the top of the charts. Corey Sannig is in the equation somewhere, too. But, I mean, logically, I think he fights Rob Font. But who knows? Who knows?

Maybe for some reason he gets the Aldo fight. I could certainly, again, if font's not available. So there's some possibilities. But yeah, gosh, so much of it depends on when Sterling and Dillardh are available. By the way, not to change the conversation. The bonuses are in. Oh. And I saw them, so I won't say anything.

Hold on. And I'll say there's six bonuses. Well deserved. I mean, this was an unbelievable card. What I say before we went live? You actually called that. Good call. Give him a cookie.

Give him his cookie. I mean, Fighter of the night and more performance. Fight a night. Fighter than I has to be a main event. Go ahead. Well, what do you guys?

First of all, what do you guys think by the night here? I'm going to be an outlier. And I would give auto performance bonus and I give main event. I mean, I'd get the co-main fight of the night. Because I thought that fight was freaking incredible. But I understand what everyone's thinking.

Jose, what do you think, quite a night? So I had the main event. So I make the graphics for us. So I was trying to get ahead. The main event, full back to the current, main event I had, I was the fight of the night. And then I had like six possible performance bonuses. And I was saying for me one. I got Jamal Hill.

Easy. Fiziv. Chris Curtis and Guida. Okay. Sean, what do you think? What do you think for performances? For the four performance bonuses? I would say, I think six people deserve it.

But those are four, like five, six. I would say if Aldo's going to get fight at the night, I would then say Fiziv, Hill, Guida, and Curtis. I don't know if that's what you said. That is the same. Casey, you said Aldo would get one and then. Fizizzo Radell, Fight in the Night, Aldo performance, Hill performance, Curtis performance,

and Star, mother freaking boy performance with his 50 punch, combo. Oh, gosh, yeah, that's right. Okay,

well, that was an amazing, 50 punch combo. So I also, I have, he was five, and then what's his name? Claudio was six

with the knee bar. Those were five, six, well, Jose and Shaheen, on the money with performance bonuses, none of us

would have gotten the fight of the night, correct. This wouldn't have been my guess either. Blissmus Martin. That was a great fight. A very good fight.

Very good fight. Hey, that's what, that's what, on our preview show, I said that on our Q&A, I said that was the low-key banger. Yes, you did. Yes, you did.

But I don't agree that on the night, though. So, yeah, Fun of the Night, Blissmas, Martin, and then performances, Guida, Curtis, Hill, Fizzif. Wow, Menev, didn't get one. Unreal. What a card way. When we can have this kind of discussion about a six bonus night, and still people are out here getting shafted,

it feels like that's when you know it was good. Also, anytime you can get Joe Martinez introducing Joseo Aldo in the cage. That's true. just perfection. Give me that all day, every day. But let us move on, gentlemen, because there is so much to hit on this card.

So let's go now to this co-main event. Real quick. I just think it's kind of crazy that we're debating if Aldo should get a title fight after his best performance at Bantamway. When he got a title fight off a loss. I just think that, and I just, I mean, that's just the reality we're in.

It's just crazy, but yeah, it's just weird. I think there were a couple things that went into that, like being on Fight Island. and visas and all. I mean, I understand, like, just timing is different, but it's just weird. It's a weird game, man. Yeah. It's a weird, weird, weird game.

And I absolutely love it. These are the nights where you just are reminded of how crazy this sport is. And again, this co-main event was no different. We talked about it a tiny bit. Raphael Fizier versus Brad Riddell, the people's main event, kind of. The one that all the hardcores out here had circled since the moment this one was announced. I saw on Twitter our good friend Kaposa called the exchanges in this fight, mini car crashes. And I really can't think of a more perfect way to describe what was going on in

there. That's exactly what they were. It was tension galore. Technical is all hell. And then just utter brilliance from Raphael Fiziv that you saw that third round spinning wheel kick. Super fast stoppage by Herb Dean. I saw some people complaining about actually liked that stoppage. It felt like that was, yeah, he saved Brad Redell from a terrible, terrible situation there. And now that's five in a row for Happy El Fiziv. He's only 28 years old, Jose. What did you see from this? I saw a guy that was incredibly patient in there because I think I didn't listen to the commentary, but I had to like go to the other room for something quick and I had the commentary on. So I actually heard a little bit of this and they were saying that Brad Riddell just seemed maybe a step ahead in not speed or power,

but it seems like he was dictated in the fight. And while I was watching it, it really did seem like Fiziv was reacting to everything Riddell was doing. Even though Riddell had his back to the fence, It seems like every time Fiziv would kind of like throw a faint or anything, Radell wouldn't bite and then he would kind of, because I remember there was this moment where Riddell had like this insane like five-punch combo and Fiziv was just on his back, like just like turtled up while he was just eating punches to the head.

And then he just found an opening and just connected with a spinning wheel kick from hell. So Fiziv, as exciting as he was, just so absolute incredible patient, incredibly high fight IQ and just makes me that much more. excited to see him fight all of these different styled fighters because I want to see his defense and his his IQ against

non-strikers because he's fought a lot of strikers and I want to see him fight someone else and like maybe a high-level grappler I want to see how he does but awesome awesome fight awesome fight okay after this after this fight ended I tweeted out future champ

on the replay of this stoppage. And I had some pushback from that. It seems like people aren't fully sold yet, or at least some people. There's a lot of haters on social media, obviously, but some people aren't fully sold yet on Fiziv. Where do you feel like his ceiling is? Like, how far do you feel like this guy can go? Does he feel like a future champ to you or maybe we're not there yet? I think that reaction just speaks to the strength of the lightweight division right now. I mean, when you say that, then you're immediately having people compare him to Charles Olivera, Dustin Porriere, Justin Geese, Darayouchev, Michael Chandler, and so on and so forth.

And again, I certainly would like his chances in some of those matchups, but I really just haven't seen enough yet. I think amongst our ranking panel, I probably had Fiziv either pretty low or not ranked at all, but only because the division is so deep, and I just want to see him just beat a few more higher-ranked guys. Radell is in my top of theme, so clearly that's an automatic jump-up for Fiziv

and probably even higher, maybe not just pass Radell, but pass a few people in front of him. So I think future champion, it's a little too early to say he certainly has the striking for it. It's just there's not a lot of guys at 1D5 who have his style and certainly not who can land a spin kick right on the money like he did. I mean, that was, that finish was awesome. That the whole fight was great. But that spin kick, man, it was just so clean. And I can't believe people are complaining about the stoppage.

I mean, Riddell was backing off with his hands up, like essentially a no-moss situation. He was looking the wrong direction. Yeah, and then and then and then collapsed after. So I'm not sure what, like we give Herb Dean the most crap around here. And I do think he's overall a poor referee. He nailed that call. That call was fine. And Fizziv is great.

Casey, did you like the stoppage or no? Stoppage is excellent. It was like for as bad as that stoppage he had the week against, it, Rothwell? It was Rothwell, right? That was the fight. Yeah. Yeah, for as horrible,

oops, sorry, as far as horrible, as that stoppage was? Easy, easy. This was the other end. It was such, it was such a good stoppage, actually.

Yeah, because, like, the way Redell was, like, just looking the wrong direction and it looks like he was, like, he was, like, talking to someone, like, hey, I gotta get out of here. You know, it was that out of it.

It was shades of Michael Chandler, Will Brooks. Yeah, that's it. Yeah, that's it. Yeah, it was just like, where, yeah, what the guy just forgets, he's even in a fight he gets hit that hard but to the fight itself um freaking awesome like i kind of

called this it sounds bad but i call this a poor man's gaichi chandler and sense of you know just these incredibly just freight trains hitting each other i thought this was the same way it's just the ranking wasn't there but both i'm not going to go future champ like you said about i wouldn't give me a pushback but i believe that i believe physiz and rodell are both eventually going to be like kind of permanent fixtures in the top 10 and both and both them will break the top top five i don't know if either gonna fight for a title no we haven't seen we haven't seen him against the best grapplers we don't know yet but um just uh it was a it was a pleasure to watch the main event and co main event i just i just absolutely loved it and i think of

rhoddine fought 10 times i think they split five and five i think they're that that that evenly match but um physiz got fizz got the best of him tonight it's a great fight great fight yeah man you look up and down these lightweight rankings right now there are the matchups available for Viziv. It's just mouthwatering, man. You throw it out, I'm seeing people on the chat throughout Michael Chandler versus Viziv. Like that's unbelievable match right there. There's just a billion different examples of this. 155 is still one of my favorite divisions of this whole entire sport, man.

It's just, when it's good, it is so, so damn good. As long as it's moving. I feel like, you know, it just gets stuck sometimes because, you know, Connor stuff or whatever. But hopefully after this title fight next week, then, you know, get those rankings moving. know, get, get challengers facing each other. So it should be, should be awesome. Absolutely. Well, hey, let's, let's bounce around this main card a little bit because there's just a lot

to get to it. I want to try to hit a few different things because we have to talk about Clay Guida. Because between him, Sergio Pettis, fight Carlisle. What a 24 hours it's been for just impossible MMA comebacks. I tweeted, but the heart on display every weekend in this sport is just awe-inspiring, man. It's unbelievable to watch. And at one point, I think midway through the. first round. This fight was 46 to zero in significant strikes in favor of Leonardo Santos.

I don't know how Clay Guida survived this. He actually ended the first round on top and then he goes out there and just wins 81 seconds into round two, submits a fourth degree black belt. And if ever, there was a night to have a time machine. This was it because that man winning by submission was 16 to 1, winning by submission. The second round was 43 to 1. Like, you don't see those kind of odds, man, it's just unreal. And we're talking about someone who's turning 40 years old on Wednesday. Jose, can you believe what you just saw in there? I mean, anytime Clay Gwita does anything, it kind of throws me off for a loop because I absolutely,

I never know what to expect. Because I think it was we did a post show. I think it was you or we were talking about it on one of his, what was his last win, the Michael Johnson fight. And we were talking about how he has just the most bizarre career. We were trying to figure out if there's a, if there's a fighter who has as many big name wins combined with as many lopsided losses as Clay Guida. And I can't think of many. Like he has like wins over like Anthony Pettis and like Diaz.

RDA. RJ Penn. He has B.J. P. A random RDA went in there. Yeah. Like he has beaten. Like if you make a list of like the 10 greatest lightweight, it's like Clay Gwita has a wins over a big chunk of them. And then he has a bunch of losses that I mean, he has wins over, he has, he has wins over BJ Penn, Anthony Pettis, and Haffield de Zanos in Takenori.

Like, Taka Noregoyote, like, Kauaijori, Hatsoki. Like, these are some of the best fighters who have ever fought in like the lower weight classes. And Kleg Wittes beat all of them. But then he has like weird submission losses to like Dennis Bermudas, which Dennis Pemus is great. But like, it's not a name that kind of jumps out out of you. Well, you know what I'm saying? So anytime Clayguita fights, I'm like, he might lose. or he might just tear through his opponent.

I have absolutely no idea. So the fact that he, the submission caught me, threw me off guard. I thought maybe he would, like, grind it out because I did think Leandro would kind of catch up to him. Had absolute, like, if I had to put money on something, it wouldn't have been a submission one. But, like, Leda continues to prove everyone wrong. AK, get in here.

What did you see from the legend tonight? A lot of things to cover here. First of all, I mean, the insane heart and toughness that we all know about. I mean, this comeback of the three mentioned was probably, I think, the most explainable, explicable? Explanable? The most reasonable.

Plausible? Plausible. No, I think, I mean, I just mean, you know, the easiest, the easiest one to explain, you know, the Pettis one, just this incredibly insane shot that only a Pettist brother could land. So that was, I mean, that was, whatever. That was like one in a million. That was almost as rare as the, the, the Rodriguez friggin' elbow, whatever, over the back elbow against zombie, yeah.

Sorry, against zombie, yeah. And then the Spark Carlisle, I thought he was dead in the second round. I'm like, that Spark Carlisle, Spike Carlisle is not coming back. He's completely gassed. You know, it's over him. So that one was even more unlikely than this. But this one, it would not have been a travesty if Keith Peterson had stopped the fight. Okay, I'll say that.

I'll say if he had stopped the fight, no one would have complained. Let me, let me just because I'm not going to lie. In the moment, I kind of was like half outrage that he wasn't stopping the fight. It's like this is a long-time, long-term veteran. And I'm like, save him for punishment, but I'm stupid. I'm nuts. Well, no, not necessarily. Not necessarily.

There was a justification for a stoppage there. A lot of unanswered strikes. He did look really hurt. But I had no issue with him letting it go on at all. He was hurt. To me, he was hurt, not finished. I think Keith Peterson called it perfectly. Guida's going for a leg.

If you stop it, again, you could have stopped it and I wouldn't have had an issue. Clearly, no one on social media would have either. They would have said good stoppage by Keith Peterson. I think he's going to take more flack because he didn't. And this is not just because Guida came back in won. That, to me, does not define whether a stoppage is good or not. You can have, we've had fights where guys will come back in one, and we still kind of go like, maybe he shouldn't have, you know?

Maybe the Russian had given him that chance. So that does happen. But tonight, I don't think that was the case. And I think it was accurate. And Leonardo Santos made a huge, huge mistake in trying to manufacture a finish as opposed to finishing his opponent. And there's a difference. There's a difference.

He was throwing a lot of effective, but somewhat clearly shots that Guida could take, as opposed to kind of take his time, load up a shot, maybe try to open up his defenses, maybe go for a submission. That's your specialty. You're one of the greatest submission grapplers in the MMA

of the last decade. Maybe go for submission. So I get it. I get how the game works. Other fighters have gotten away of this. We've seen many times the fighter does this, pours it on with the punches, looks to the referee.

The referee does intervene and stops the fight. It didn't work out for him tonight. And I wish he had just been a little more picky with the strikes because he definitely could have gotten a first-round finish by TKO or by submission. He tried to play the game. Didn't go his way this time. I thought Keith Pearson did a fine job. And we got, hey, we ended up getting one of the craziest moments of the year,

which has now seen Jacaray Susa, Adolfo Vieira, and Leonardo Santos submitted all in the same year. Jeez, man. That's unbelievable when you say it like that. I mean, Casey, you've been in this game for a long time. Is this the best weekend for just comebacks that you can ever remember seeing? And like if you had to rank the three comebacks that we've seen in the last 24 hours, like how do you rank them one to three?

Oh, obviously, I mean, the pettus knockout. I mean, the pettus knockout last night was just unreal. But yeah, Clay Gwita, that was just, that was years of, like he said, years of wrestling, years of getting his butt kicked in the cage, but surviving. And A.K. makes a really good point. He tried to sell a finish, which is, it's risky. And I think Keith Peterson actually kind of was offended by it. I was like, hey, let me do my job, man.

You know, he wasn't having it. He wasn't having it. He wasn't. He was like, you know, I was going to stop it, but now I'm not. I felt that. I felt that. And unfortunately, for Santos, I felt like he doubled down and started, like, punching Pettis harder in the top of the head.

Come on, you see, look at Pettus's head. He can throw cement bricks at that thing. It's just, it hurt the cement. But, yeah. Guida. Yeah, I'm sorry, Guida. I'm sorry, yeah, Guida. Lots of comebacks.

Yeah, lots of comebacks, yeah. And unfortunately, Leo Santos, he showed his age. I said that there's like two 40-year-old lightweights fighting in the UFC. I can't think of two 40-year-old lightweights ever fighting in the-BJ and Clay were close. I think they were like 38 and 39 when they fought. Yeah, so it was even older. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Unfortunately, Sancho's just, he showed his age.

I don't know why he didn't go for submission rather than doing some really high energy waste of ground and pound. When he just, like, Clay Guida's been submitted a lot. You shouldn't use your freaking jujitsu, man. I don't get it. Santos made a big mistake. Clay Guida capitalized on it. Congratulations, Clay Guida. Just unreal finish is a croix support.

Oh, great, great, yeah, great. And I want to jump to a different one now because Chris Curtis. man, this gentleman, just, I mean, we just, we started the show by talking about Jose Aldo, obviously, and that's one of my favorite stories of 2021. But Chris Curtis might have actually one of the best stories of 2021, just all together. I mean, his career and what he has overcome to just get to this point is something else. I mean, this is somebody who got screwed at every turn possible for so long, so many different false starts, so many different bad breaks.

He ends up retiring multiple times a couple years ago, even twice in one night. at one point changes his mind, and now here he is. He's 6 and 0 this year over three divisions, as Jose pointed out multiple times, six and oh over three divisions this year, two and O in the UFC, and he may very well be a ranked middleweight by the time we're in this space next month. It's bizarre. He storms through a very good prospect in Brendan Allen on Saturday night.

His second round TKO hits his second UFC upset knockout now in a month's time. I mean, Jose, you have to love this, right? Like, how can you not love this? it is and it's I like how you said he could be a ranked middleweight because he shouldn't even be fighting a middleweight he's not a middleweight he himself has said like he is should be a welterweight

he's just taking all these last he's basically Kelvin gasoline himself into a title fight like he just keeps knocking off all these middleweights and all of a sudden he's like well I guess he's fighting for a title now and that's what's going to happen so he says he wants to fight next weekend at UFC 269 I haven't looked at the card that closely and I will I will later but like

Is there any middleweight fights on that card where, like, they fall out that Chris Kurtz could, like, slot in? Because he seems super down to fight every single week now. Look at that up for you while we do this. Also, to anyone watch it... Actually, there are several. There are several middleweight fights, including Andre Munoz, who is a ranked middleweight. So, you know, it's out there. Let's make it happen.

Like, hey, I'm not saying anyone should get hurt, but Chris Curtis, stay ready. Also, someone make him a Wikipedia page. He's the only fighter on this entire car on Wikipedia page. Is that true? Yeah, he deserves his own page now. Every single fighter on this car and has one except for him. Show this man. Some damn respect, people.

Come on. A.K. Casey, we're kind of having an internal debate about this, but is there a chance Chris Curtis's breakout fighter of the year? No, but it's cute to talk about it. It's cute. It's a great story. It's a great story. but um i haven't started

he's up there clearly in the talk in the conversation yeah look i i gosh this is going to be a broken record now i'm sorry every time chris curtis fights and especially if he wins talking about how many times he retired uh how many bad breaks he's got as you mentioned you know the ufc did not want chris curtis if you want to understand this they did not want to be in the chris curtis business why we don't know i don't have any inside scoop on it chris curtis is an exciting fighter super a nice guy. Maybe he's too nice. I don't know. Like, he doesn't have that like, oh, that badass edge that the UFC's kind of looking for in a fighter. Because he is like a very positive, like happy dude. I mean, he'll, he'll be very honest about the kind of problems he's had in his career with, again, with trying to get into the UFC. He's had some bitterness in that regard, but just like anybody would. So I don't know what the issue is. And again, we were saying earlier, he only got in because he was originally going to fight Phil Haas on like a day's notice. And then the fight ended up getting pushed back. Hodge didn't want to take it then and probably to the benefit of Curtis. It did get

pushed back. And then and then Curtis goes on to beat him. So he's, he's so talented. He's fought a lot of equality opposition outside of the UFC. This is long overdue. It's such a great feel-good story. I do have to think more about my breakthrough thing. Of course, after tonight, my immediate reaction was this gave this man all the awards. Fighter of the year, he's 6-0. He could be if he wins, UFC 29, he could be 7-0, 3-0 in the UFC. give him he's got two back to back bonuses an extra hundred gs in his pocket in his first two UFC fights a great story a great story one of many great stories tonight and uh and really this year I should say I think when we look back on it there was a lot of a lot of positives um at least as far as

in cage action goes so I couldn't be happy for Chris Kurtz I think a lot of us have interviewed him before and so there's just that little that little personal connection to seeing this guy succeed which is which is always nice you're right just the nicest guy and I think no one deserves this sort of moment sort of success in this run more than him. I mean, I was seeing it in the chat, Dark Sagan just says, I feel like the UFC gave him Allen expecting him to lose. And that's kind of been the story of both of his UFC fights.

Like, I don't think anybody expected her to win either of these fights. He did it in spectacular fashion both ways. One last fight, I want to hit, one last result, I should say, I want to hit before we jump into some fan questions here. Jamal Hillman, if you were looking for a way, drawing up a way to bounce back from a really grisly, like, arm bar type of loss where you had looked like your arm was almost broken in half.

That's about as good as it gets, right, Jose? I mean, that was a tremendous, tremendous stoppage on poor Jimmy Crout. He was out and then comes in with a perfect callout of Paulo Costa out of nowhere. Just a 10 out of 10 night for me for Jamal Hill. In example number 400 for me of why it pays to have a name in mind, because I wasn't even thinking of that fight. And now I actually really, really like that fight. He had two names.

He said, I hear Paulo Costa wants to come up to light heavyweight. And if that doesn't happen, if that doesn't happen, if that doesn't, happen then i'll fight johnny walker so he he had all of his bases covered so if he doesn't get the palo fight he's like then i'll fight this madman that's six six and johnny walker so 10 out of 10 out of 10 out of 10 call out jamaul uh won a lot of fans i mean he i know everyone kind of views him as like this brash arrogant like loudmouth especially before the paul craig fight remember they kind of had that run in uh at the hotel but goes out there and knocks jimmy crut and immediately goes to check on him and it's like all all love to jimmy crout so

10 out of 10 performance for Jamal Hill gets another $50,000 bonus and I'm fighting a watch A light heavyweight I guess People say that about Javayo? Yeah, I think that's... People are haters, man. I think that's Adam.

Yeah, I never got that impression. I think Paul Craig was... I think it's... I think there's a little more to that than just a loud individual might be more of, you know, a race thing in terms of, you know, fight thing, but...

I feel you. But being on site in Arizona, there were not a lot of Jamal Hill fans. at the press conference. Like when Arizona, they were talking about it. A.K., between the two, between the two matchups,

see throughout Walker, Costa. What do you like better? Oh, I mean, I obviously want to see Costa. I don't know. If I'm Costa. That's the right pick.

I mean, even if I'm Costa, I do think it's not a bad match. If I'm Costa, I don't think it's a bad matchup for me. Hill is, I mean, he's only,

this is 11 fights in his career. And looks very good. I mean, I mean, look, as a finisher. He has some incredible physical attributes for a light heavy weight. He'll have reach and size on Paulo Costa. But if I'm Paulo Costa, I definitely acknowledge the callout. I think it's a winnable fight for me. And Hill, again, we'll be getting top 15 talk, I think, after this

win. He is, if you count the no contest that was overturned because of the devil's lettuce. He is Which we count. We count that. Well, I don't know. Again, you know, I'm not an outlaw. So, you know, I straight edge so but yes it's legal it's legal okay it's legal it's legal it would be not not in my soul not not in the eyes of God he is four and one

in the UFC with some very very exciting performances so it would be nice for Paul Kossi who at 205 I hope he doesn't think of himself as like an immediate contender like oh I should be getting top five top 10 guys immediately it's like Paula if you're going to stay at 205

you're kind of going to have to rebuild your reputation a little But maybe like two big wins, that's it. But he's not jumping into a top five, top 10 opponent right away. I was just certainly. Alicosta also wants to keep fighting a middleweight. Dana White doesn't want that. So that's, I don't, there's going to be drama with that whole scene.

He's only missed. How many times does it probably cost him miss weight at 85? It was just the way he did it, though. I think it's more the question of how many times does he just outright not trying to make weight? That's more than it. And he made, and it was one the best fights of the year. And yeah, and he didn't miss weight. And he didn't miss weight.

No, but remember the, remember the, Remember the hydration test? Remember the, not the hydration test, the California. He was like one of the biggest, like, rehydration.

He didn't, I don't think he, like, broke their, their percentage thing of like, too, well, California is,

but California is a bunch of liberal soyboys. I know. Yeah. It's the worst. Yeah. It's the worst. Yeah. It's the worst.

I forgot how. Let's turn from the, oh, real quick. What's up? No, go for it. Of all the,

of all the, I did horrible on my picks tonight, but the one I was completely off on was crude hill. I, I was heavy on crude, and I put way too much weight in the Paul Craig lost. I kind of forgot how good Hill was, and I think he just made a mistake against Paul Craig, and unfortunately he made that mistake in the octagon rather than in the training room, and I just put too much weight in it, and I kind of forgot how good Jamal Hill is,

and he is a fabulous talent, and I can't wait to see what's next. I actually think it's an understatement. Say you did poorly in the picks tonight. I don't know if the people know how bad your pick your picks were. No, no, I got the main event right. I got the main event right. I got the main event. That's all that matters.

This is all we showed up for. This is true. I say this with the utmost love for you, Casey. But you could not have replicated how bad your picks were tonight. If you absolutely tried to pick the wrong fighter in every fight. It was wonderful. Just like a chicken pecking. I got the main event right.

That's all I care about. Well, Casey, you did it real bad. Well, Casey, the people have listened to us blather on long enough. I'm sure they have lots to say. What's going on? Let's hear from the people here. Oh, man. Camden, do we going to talk about, oh, that's an old question.

Sorry. All right, questions, questions. I'm just, I'm just upset that we didn't talk about Starboy yet. Well, let's do it. Would you think, I mean, we finally saw, we finally saw the Starboy you have been waiting for, I have been waiting for, that we have all been waiting for. We did a little bit last fight, too. We did a little bit.

This is a higher, a better opponent. And I think we saw just, just, we just, we just, we saw it all. And his post-fight call-out, the non-call-out, was top-notch. When DC was like, who do you want to fight next? He's like, I am the star boy. You've come after me. I am the champion. You come after me.

It's like, it's like, why would I call out people? That is below me. It's like, I wait for these challengers. I am the star boy. I am so happy. Meno Cop is back. He's back. He's back.

And I don't know who's next for him, but it's going to be exciting. And whoever's going to, I worry about his next opponent. Oh, man, this flyweight division is so fun. You know, it's fun. It's so silly that we almost lost this a couple of years ago. This is such a good place right now. God bless Zuma Gulov for like just saying, I'm just going to go in there. I know this guy's dangerous.

I'm just going to go out of him anyway. And look, he paid the price, but he gave us a great fight. So a little round of applause for Zuma. Because I thought like, oh, he's going to be a little tactical in there. It's like, no, I'm going to push the pace. Let's see, let's see, cop keep up with me. And I'm like, maybe. Maybe not the best strategy.

Could anyone keep count of that combo he threw at the end? I was trying to count it. I was trying to count it. I was trying to count. That was like a killer instinct combo. That was just... Just push every button. All right.

Let's hear from the people. Burn the people. Joseph writes, I have no problem with Jose winning, but we had two 50-45s and a 49-46. Was that scorecard correct? I had a 50-45. Would you guys have it? I thought it's 5045 pretty easily.

Mm-hmm. 4946, but I wouldn't argue with 50-45. Yeah, the case, I guess I got some round one. That's probably the disputed round. Yeah, look, I don't have any issue if people, like, I'm not going to argue that he lost round one. Yeah. But he did the most damage, you know, Aldo did the most damage. I don't know if Joseph was asking him about all the cards are just the 49-46, but I will say, again, I think either is just aifiable.

Fond controlled most of the action. He just unfortunately got knocked down at the end. Again, a knockdown in M.A. is not an automatic 10-9, but if Fonte had did a little more damage in the defeat, he still would have taken it. But again, he didn't land anything super consequential, and although, like, clearly did the, again, just did the most damage with that flurry.

So, but yeah, 4946 isn't terrible. Yeah. It never fails. David writes, Quita used the old Darren Elkins game plan. It never fails. We saw it three times this week. Yeah, I like it. It never fails.

Jose, I think you said that you know their... Was it you that tweeted that you know their teammates but you would... Oh, maybe that wasn't you. No, you would never suggest it. Someone tweeted that they know they are teammates but it would be fun to see them fight

and I'm sure their scraps in the gym are just must be crazy. Oh man. The high pace, the pace on those fights have to be out of control. Let's see if we can get a few more in here before we get in our... Are they the same weight class?

Are they the same way class? Isn't Darren Elkins? Is he a feather? He's a feather. He's a feather. We did gone down the feather. We just gone down the featherweight, but he's a lot of lightweight now. It would happen that lightweight if they wanted to, but I don't think they would.

Jonathan writes, is there any chance if Fiziev gets a top five or six opponent next? That's an interesting question. Nah. Bye, Sean. No way. Oh, he popped. Oh, Sean, okay. He'll be back.

He'll be back. So I'm just sorry. All right. Let's look at our top five. I'm going to say no. I'm going to say no. I'm going to say no simply because there's a logjam. And so, like, the number one and two are fighting each other.

Number three has already been promised the title fight. And then four and five are fighting. So he can't fight anyone in the top five. Michael Chandler would be a scrap. I don't think that's going to happen. The Tony Ferguson fight is probably going to, like, RDA seems to really want to fight that. Dan Hooker's going to featherweight. So next man up would be Greg Gillespie at 10.

And that's why I tweeted Gregor Gillespie versus Fiziv. Would I like to see him fight anyone in the top five? 100%. I just think it's a matter of, you know, everyone's, matched up or has fights that makes make more sense than Raphael Fizzis. So Gillespie at 10, I think, is the fight to make. Also, because Riddell was supposed to fight Gillespie before like that. The COVID situation happened and then Radell really wanted that fight rebooked.

So now that he's beaten Radell, Fiziziziz takes his spot. Gillespie, Fiziv, also will let us answer the question of how he does against a high-level wrestler. I mean, I'm not going to lie. I see RDA at number six on the UFC rankings, which obviously there are better rankings out there. But nonetheless, I could see him getting RDA. Like, that actually feels like a fight. RDA, you know RDA is going to accept anything that gets thrown his way.

Like, that feels like a fight that is possible. Just probably the only one of top six, but he'll be there. I think he's going to fight like it. I think RDA is like he said on the MMA out. He's like on that last stretch to the title. I bet he wants a little higher ranked guy, but I agree with he's probably not going to say no, but it's probably not going to be his first option. I really wants that Tony fight.

Yeah. I love to use him above. Yeah. They have RDA above in the UFC, not that these rankings, above Tony Fur? Okay. Yeah, I guess Tony Ferguson on losing streak. And above, who do we have? I'm trying to think. Why is he lower on ours?

We have, we have, we have in eighth, RDA, yeah. We have him behind Ferguson and who do they have no above? That's right. Chandler, Islam, B'Neil, Gae, Hall of Arapore. And they don't count the champion, right? They don't count the champion in their in their rankings. Yeah, that's why. Above one.

Yeah, that's not like the worst thing. We just have Ferguson and Dos Anos-Anios flipped. Yeah, but I think, I do think, just to go the question, as you said, we have Chandler six, so that's probably the best chance he could get of getting a top six guy, but I do think Chandler will go in another direction. But it wouldn't surprise me. It wouldn't, like, shock me if that matchup was made. So it's a remote possibility.

Glesby, that's because we want to see him against a grappler, I think, at this point. I like that's a big thing. I like, yeah. I like RDA, too. I like Ardeni too. And if these were like dominated Redell and just like kind of you know dominated the other knockout,

I think maybe we could talk to Chandler thing but I think since there's such a competitive fight I want to, I feel like the UFC should still not quite, you know, throw them to the front of the line yet. Also on the other side of it, like Gillespie kind of is untested too in that aspect, right? Like that's kind of a thing that I want Gillespie

tested against just a high level striker to that degree too. So it kind of answers a couple different questions in this division. Do you guys think he gets its five to six opponent next year, sometime next year. If he wins? I think he's one win away. I think that sounds right.

Especially if the U.S.C. is going to go to Abu Dhabi so much. I want that demographic covered. Jose, you've been out there a bunch of times. Does he have a big, does it feel like he have a big following out there? I don't think I've ever, I wasn't at his, I don't, I think he's only fought on Fight Island once and I wasn't at that one. but based off of every other like Middle Eastern or Muslim fighter gets the biggest pop imaginable whether they're fans of them or it's hard to say because they all get massive pops but I would imagine

plus just stick Hasbala like outside the octagon to watch Fiziv fight like they have did you see that epic promo they made for Fiziv and Hosbalah but the UFC made like just play that a thousand times and have Hasbila enter the octagon it'll blow up it'll happen all right let's do two more and then we'll get out of here All right. Oh, just real quick. Oh, thank you.

We appreciate all the love. Thanks, Jessica. Thank you, Jessica. She's the best. Real quick. Ooh. All right. This is a good question.

Is Cheyenne? I'm going to butcher. Vilsmus. I think Rhymes. V-L-I-S-D. V-L-I-S-D. I think Rons is Christmas. I think Rons is V-L-S-MIS.

Ready for a top 15 opponent. I don't know. What do you feel this thing? Mm-hmm. I don't know if she's ready, but to her performance tonight, I thought she looked great. I love her attitude. I love her craziness. I love her. After the fight, even like how she was throwing punches at the very end when she already had the fight won, she was like, she was like screaming.

I'm like, let's fight, you know, just like, let's go. I just love her. Like, she almost has that kind of, she has like kind of Sean Strickland type of attitude when she fights. I love it and I just I thought she looked awesome tonight. I didn't think she was going to be able to outstrike Mallory Martin that easily. She just uses her range well and she's, I know she's gone through a lot of, you know, personal issues outside the cage and she took out that frustration on Mallory Martin tonight. It was great.

Was it a fight of the night? I don't know about that. But yeah, she's a great talent. I'm excited to see her a fight again. I'm happy they got that 50K just because they probably needed it more than any other fighter. It's just in their personal lives on the card. Is there a second straight bonus now for Cheyenne? Oh.

That's a way to make a living in the UFC if you can do it. I don't think she's quite ready for a top 15 yet, if only because the top 15 is a lot of veterans. I wouldn't want to throw her in there with like an Angela Hill, Vierna Janjarova. Maybe Jessica Penne, I think that might be a somewhat reasonable test for her right now. But most of the top 15 is pretty experienced. And she's very, very early in her career. clearly a talent, great, great attitude, great fighter mindset.

The skills, though, I don't think are, even in the somewhat thin strawaway division, not quite yet. I think she's maybe one, maybe two fights away. Maybe when Nina Nunez gets healthy, maybe it's something like that. I wouldn't hate that. Even, I think Nina Nunez, I'm also a big Nia Nunez fan, so I think maybe she's quite a step above, Cheyenne. I think we have to take it easy with Cheyenne Blissimus. I don't think she's quite there yet, but definitely see the potential of someone. would be a top 10 fighter.

All right. All right. Well, let's end here. We have one more case here? Let me see. Real quick. I'm perfectly happy ending on the moment of silence for the two mullets because as 2012, Chief Keith says,

a moment of silence for the two mullets tonight. They both got bad, bad nights. Bad nights, yeah. Brandon Allen probably already has the next fight. Oddly enough, Edmund decided to talk the first trash of his life on Twitter. I had to double check when I saw that that was very bizarre. But Allen's callback was great, right?

What was that? We're both irrelevant. Let's fight. Is that what he said? Casey, can we end on the question from MMA Voggers about thoughts on, you know, Fizizizov's callout? I think if you recall Fizzives, I don't know if you see this question. Oh.

Was that a wasted callout? This one says, MMA Wagers wants to know thoughts on Vince Vaughn versus. is Afil Fiziv. I'm pretty confident that Vince I'm pretty confident when I say Vince Vance probably the most famous person that was in that building, so why not? Shoot your shot.

Shoot your shot, Ben. Has he played any sort of boxer or fighter character in any movie? He's played so many characters. He has never played anything like that. Dodgeball is the only time he played like an athlete, right? I mean, dodge ball, also, he's just a real inspirational leader in old school.

Sure. Sure. Come on now. I honest to God, he was in Rudy. He was a long time. Was he? As a football,

he was the rude guy. I think it's where he met John Favreau. And I think they did swingers after. I could have been before. I believe they did swingers after, though. I think it's actually meant where he met John Favro. So, yeah. Yeah, very funny call out.

Favorite Vince Vaughn film? Favorite Vinds von film? Anyone? Oskie? Old school. Oh, wait. Wait,

yeah, he was in old school. Yeah, he was in old school. Okay. Wait, is he in here comes the, is he in here comes? Is he in here comes the boom? No, that's all Kevin. That's all Kevin. David Sandine, why would you say that?

He said, didn't you see here comes the boom? Come on. Maybe I'm a small part in. All right. I don't know. And with that, let's go ahead. All these amazing fights. This end this on Vince Vaughn.

I know, right? You never know where these things go. Either way, thank you to everyone who joined us tonight. You got to love this sport. Just on the random Saturday nights like this, we can just get a card for the ages. So much fun. So much exciting finishes.

So many great fights. And this has been the UFC Vegas 44 post-fight show here on MMA fighting. Thanks to everyone who tuned in and made us a part of your weekend. That man's Jose Young's. That man is Alexander K. Lee. We got the best producer in the business. E. Casey Leiden.

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